@@chuckn4851 I lack the constitution for suicide. And I'm pretty sure there's nothing else after this short existence so why off myself and deprive myself of creature comforts whilst I'm here? I'll be gone soon enough. In the meantime I want some pasta with truffles.
@@SelectiveApathy82 It’s very easy to fall into nihilism. Once you fall down there you often lose the will to climb out. Took me a few years to get out. We are of nature like rust says, nature continues regardless of our existence. We merely fight nature but eventually it will take us, it’s inevitable. Most religions speak of the end of the world for a reason. We all know this won’t last forever. We deny it but it’s true. I say, why live your short existence in misery and contempt? Why not make the most of yourself and possibly even leave something of yourself behind, no matter how flawed it may be. Whether a god or an afterlife exists is irrelevant imo.
@@allsmilesguy I have a good job, had a girlfriend about 7 months ago (gotten lazy and complacent with the single life), a few close friends and siblings/parents/relatives that care about me. I plan to try and enjoy what little time I have here, but I'm not born with the gifts required to light the world on fire. If I was that kind of person I'd have done it by now. There won't be any glowing news stories or magazine articles about me when I'm gone.
"You asked." "Yeah, and now I'm begging you to shut the fuck up." "I get a bad taste in my mouth out here. Aluminum. Ash. I can smell a psychosphere." "I got an idea. Lets make the car a place of silent reflection from now on, okay?" Haha. Brilliant script, and these two just knock it out of the park.
Rust is the kind of character who looks and sounds really cool and compelling on screen, but he would be an absolute NIGHTMARE to work with IRL. Like Dr. House.
Hart: Did you watch the oscars? Cohle: I think celebrity worship is just another way of tricking ourselves into believing that we can be somebody when deep down we know that even celebrities are nobodies. Hart: So... No?
@Jacob McMahan Of course. I can't say for every single individual in a type of personality. Sometimes a random comment on the internet is from a jerk. You see what I did there?
I've never been to Louisiana, and I've heard it's nothing but class, but holy shit. The way the director filmed this series made it look like a swampy, haunted maze full of terror & doubt. It's as if the landscape is one of the main characters.
I was born in Alabama and have many relatives in Louisiana. Louisiana is probably the most unique state that I've ever been to as far as culture is concerned, and this show nails the physical aspects of the state to a fucking T. The crime, crumbling infrastructure, factories/powerplants/refineries, the accents of the people, and the brutal terrain and the weather. One of the writers had to have lived there without a doubt.
Louisiana is a beautiful state and some amazing unique cities that you won’t find anywhere in America like Baton Rouge, Alexandria and New Orleans. So unique and they have such a vibe to them. This show is shot in southern Louisiana, specifically on the sub region of the Mississippi delta south of New Orleans. The place is absolutely hauntingly beautiful especially during rain storms. Places like this cannot be seen, they are felt.
@@tideatmilehigh2727 The show producer himself, Nic Pizzolatto, grew up in New Orleans and graduated from LSU. So there's your answer right there. He also got his MFA from University of Arkansas (setting of Season 3, 2019).
@@cereal-killer4455 Not to nitpick, but references to Lake Charles and Lafayette seem to put the show in SW La, which is Acadiana but not part of the Delta below New Orleans.
"And I lack the constitution for suicide" I love how fed up Marty looks when he says that. He was expecting friendly small talk, but instead Rust's nihilistic ruminations hit him like a fucking truck.
It's people who say they don't have the "constitution for suicide" who actually aren't pessimistic at all. They're usually optimists masking their optimism with pessimism as a defense mechanism for coping with reality when things end up not working out how they wish they did. They're usually holding out for hope that they will somehow reach an epiphany in their life that changes their outlook, which Cohle had that epiphany. The reality is that they're scared of suicide because they want to be proven wrong. This is why I believe there is no such thing as a nihilist, because all true nihilists kill themselves. Those who don't are only kidding themselves, since they clearly value something in life to hold on to theirs, directly contradicting their world-view that "nothing matters".
@@bud389 Like Rust said I consider myself a realist but people will assume I'm a pessimist. I'm not scared of suicide nor I want a life changing experience, more like I'm curious to see what's going to happen to the world. Also just because nothing matters doesn't mean I can't do things I like. I was thrown in this world against my will anyway so why not enjoy it doing the things I like instead of just crying about how painful it is? That's kind of a misconception about people with this kind of view. Rust is a fictional character exaggerated to the utmost pessimism. I'm sure there's people like him but he's clearly unhealthy + the death of his daughter and all the drug abuse messed with him. In the words of Thomas Ligotti: "Some critics of the pessimist often think they have his back to the wall when they blithely jeer, “If that is how this fellow feels, he should either kill himself or be decried as a hypocrite" "Simply because someone has reached the conclusion that the amount of suffering in this world is enough that anyone would be better off never having been born does not mean that by force of logic or sincerity he must kill himself. It only means he has concluded that the amount of suffering in this world is enough that anyone would be better off never having been born. Others may disagree on this point as it pleases them, but they must accept that if they believe themselves to have a stronger case than the pessimist, then they are mistaken" That's the same as if an optimistic person kills himself and a realist/pessimist goes "how did such a happy person take his own life? Wasn't he always talking about how good life is? He's such a hypocrite!". We wouldn't do that because that's stupid. Factors other than the person's view of existence like depression can lead to suicide. And who am I to judge people's motives for doing anything with their own lives?
They really pair up super well. And the fact that Matthew is actually a devoted Christian and Woody is an atheist makes these dialogues between them even more better, really shows how professional they are. Brilliant scene.
Hell yeah, shit I have that whole series on my phone I watched it about 4 times I ain't gonna lie it's just so fuckin good man lol. I was reading that Matthew said that he missed rust Cole on Sundays do they might bring it bk with woody and Matthew.. If they do can't wait to see what s next
Vince Johnson Both Matt and Woody are open to more but the series' creator Pizzolatto has already ventured to other things so it's highly unlikely the show will have a 3rd season. Honestly, I think it's a good thing. Season 2 was a complete lackluster. It didn't have any of the character tension or the plot, it was just a mess.
That is the beauty of Cary Fukunaga's style of film-making. If you haven't already, watch his latest piece on Netflix, "Beasts of No Nation". It was arguably one of my favorite movies of 2015.
There are too many things wrong with what you said. First off, I counted four angles, so there should be at least two cameras rolling at the same time. Second, WTF r you talking about when you when you say "cinematography"? The cinematographer probably didn't even show up for this, too simple to shoot, all the genius is in the writing and acting for this scene.
you have shamed me deeply. i should have known better. i shall momentarily delete my praiseful comment, which has garnered 100 upvotes already and has obviously resonated with well-meaning viewers around the globe, in spite of all its deficiencies that you felt so drawn to point out. i apologise for any inconvenience it may have caused you.
Rust: (delivers a long, misanthropic monologue about how humanity should terminate itself) Marty: When you're at my house for dinner please don't mention any of that Rust: Of course Marty, I'm not some kind of maniac. Fucks sake.
Being misanthropic doesn't make him a madman. He's still able to put on a civil and polite demeanor when he's a guest in someone's home, especially with kids present.
Despite his pessimistic attitude, rust is what i would call a "cautious optimist". His actions betray his words. If he truly thought humanity was doomed, why would he bother trying to save dora? Its because she represents his last shred of hope in humanity. He wants to believe in good.
He states very clearly that he is not predisposed to suicide and that he is a victim of his "programing". Do a little research on the illusion of free will and then write a more intelligent comment.
I don't agree. these two things are completely separate. His being a pessimist doesn't mean that he should stop trying when he is placed in some specific context in which he is obliged to take action or help when the circumsantaces call for him. This doesn't mean that he has hope for human race. He just does what he has to when he has to without any hope or illusion of fulfillment. And his past is a big part of his life. A part that has made him realize the truth of futility. Your past is not separate from you life. he lives through his whole life which is an illusion just like everybody else's as he says.
Good point if he truly believed his philosophy he wouldnt be a detective and try to solve these cases and put in end do all the mayhem and murder surrounding the series. If i had to say what he is rust is a pessimistic realist in the sense he knows how far you can truly make a difference in a world that is so full of shit
I think people don't understand how fucking hilarious Woody is in this scene. For example: 2:15 that's god awful that sarcastic joking way. It's just amazing.
The dialogue on this show and hearing Rust's beliefs are outstanding, especially the line below that made me laugh: Rust: "Look I consider myself a realist. Alright, but in philosophical terms, I'm what's called a pessimist." Marty: "Ummm, okay, what's that mean?" Rust: "Means I'm bad at parties." Marty: "Let me tell ya, you ain't great outside of parties either."
The responses by Marty (Woody Harrelson) I've been with you three months do me a favor. I wouldn't go around spouting that shit. People around here don't think like that! I DON'T THINK LIKE THAT! Three months I don't hear anything from you. NOW I'm begging you to shut the fuck up! I got an Idea...Let's make the car a place of silent reflection....Russ then says "I don't drink...Oh! Of course NOT Russ! My Brother-in-Law and I watch this little scene every time he visits from Peru. It is SO FUNNY to laugh at this dark side humor Whoever wrote this dialogue between them Has my vote as one of the best most honest real life dialogues out there on film. True Detective Season 1 is a MASTER PIECE of writing! That is why season 2 sucked! And Season 3 Saved the series!!!
Your favorite is a good "Ice-breaker" comment by both characters to test each other All I could think of was when I worked for the County how all of this is Off-Limits to talk about
"And this one time, at band camp, I realised that all your life - you know, all your love, all your hate, all your memories, all your pain - it was all the same thing. It was all the same dream, a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream about being a person. And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it." - Rust Cohle, bad at parties.
I would say the "Pass the butter" scene from Rick and Morty.They use humor to point their judgment on the topic,and they do it in a more simple & faster way.
Are you just speaking about dialogue between characters? I love the dialogue in Game of Thrones. It’s so poetic at times. Breaking Bad, Thrones and this are my three fav shows.
@@patgogan7324 Well if we go to heaven we will know for sure. And if you die and your just nonexistent then I guess you will never know. But in all honesty the reality is we don't know and will not know for certain until it happens.
In screenwriting classes and courses, every instructor says to NEVER WRITE A SCENE like this one. Where it's just two characters talking. Yet it's done time and time again on True Detective and everybody LOVES IT. It's like the screenwriting pros/ teachers want no one to break barriers or rules, but when it's done on a large scale, the applaud it. Fucking annoying. I love the show btw, this isn't a rant against True Detective but towards the screenwriting teachers/ pros.
Average people are unlikely to pull a scene like this off. The teachers correctly assume most who come to them to be 'average' (flexible term, but I'm sure you understand), so tell them not to do it, but in the rare - but possible - case that someone who is above-average comes along, they know that if the student is of any worth then they'll only follow what the mentor says to a degree. If this student believes they can pull a scene like this off then chances are they will. Therefore, they simply make sure the sheep follow the flock, knowing the others will find their own way. I'm not at all a teacher, nor do I have any qualifications regarding screenwriting, but I'd hope my input has some weight to it despite this.
Really makes me wonder what kinda classes have you attended. Dialogue is the very key in screenwriting and in writing in general. There is not one screenwriter on Earth (who knows anything about writing) who says not to write a scene like this. Not one.
I watched the eight episodes in less than 24 hours. Amazing show, complete in all aspects. This conversation between the two in the first episode was a very strong scene for me, the character Cohle says in a clear way what nobody wants to hear! That's how this show is soo well written. After this first episode I went to sleep thinking about my life. ... a very good feeling after seeing a TV show.
"I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight - brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal."
I've felt Rust became disillusioned with life when his daughter died, or at least disillusioned with the idea of a good or purpose filled life. It seems to me he couldn't reconcile the two. The only way to rationalize his existence from that point forward without accepting that someone he loved was taken from him; is that life has no meaning. (Rust: We force ourselves to create meaning because we have to believe we are important, we have to believe our love means something.) Throughout the show he continues to share his philosophy with others reaffirming to himself that he doesn't have to bare the burden of understanding why his daughter was taken from him. Something I've found about Rust character is he is honest with himself even when he's trying to run from what he is scared of. Rust throughout the show is actually the moral leader, I would argue far more so than Marty. Marty is just like the rest of us, so sure of the comfortablness of his existence and he doesn't dig into his own character because he isn't wrestling with his own existence the same way Rust is. Rust can never let himself fully go. Because i believe his connection to his daughter was so strong. I believe this is why he doesn't kill himself and he still dedicates himself to stopping people who are committing injustice. I believe it's the same reason he is a very deep thinker and has come up with so many explanations of why life is meaningless, because it's the only thing that can remove him from his daughters death. It stood out to me how when Marty for the first time asks Rust what he believes in, ( asks if he's a Christian because of cross on his wall.) Rust says he's not a Christian but it is a form of meditation. He then explains that he contemplates the garden and the idea of allowing your own crucifixion. This really stood out to me, especially as an opening characterization of oneself's beliefs. Because the meditation he is referring to is allowing yourself to be sacrificed in the place of another, completely willingly, not forced. It is the greatest concept of love within the Christian religion. It is the choice Jesus made to willingly be captured and crucified. One of the most meaningful things you could meditate on as far as history would think. Considering the popularity and importance of Christianity throughout history. So his own self charactization from the very beginning implies that he meditates on meaning and still considers it at least. I think this really all comes full circle in the end when his belief in life is reconciled when he experiences his daughters love and he realizes that that love does mean something and there is something to hope in. My favorite tv show of all time and something I always come back thinking about.
Thank you!! I think in the complete same direction and love to see that someone else doesn't just accept Rusts character but asks where he comes from. Nobody is born like that. I think you are exactly right when you say he is like he is because his brains wants to protect him from the pain of losing his daughter. This is how all of our brains work we just have other tactics to cope with trauma. What Rusts need to be somewhat normal is a psychologist. But I think he saw beauty in live again in the end of the season
@@Isosceles8818 The Christian part. Christianity is not the only religion that talks about self-sacrifice. Arguably Christianity doesn't even do it that well. Did Jesus hang on the cross in self-sacrifice or simply because he was caught and executed?
HAhaha at the end of that intense convo when marty says "Listen when you're in my house I want you to chill the fuck out. Don't even mention any of that bullshit you just said to me." I lol'd so hard XD lmoa! Friggin awesome show.
Believing procreation is unethical is not necessarily pessimistic, it’s just brutally honest, and most people can’t handle the truth of it. True compassion means caring enough about others’ suffering to at least not perpetuate it, regardless of how unpopular or unconventional it may be. Once you bring someone into existence, you ensure their suffering (where otherwise there would have been no suffering). Not procreating is the only way to guarantee the prevention of suffering.
I feel so bad for Marty in this scene. This is the 1st case he's worked on with Rust and what is he greeted to? A woman who was tortured to death and then ritualistically tied to a tree as the life was slowly drained from her eyes. You can tell Marty was not mentally prepared for seeing something like that so he was thinking "The soul crushing silence of this car ride back to the house is killing me inside I need an ice breaker for me to not think about it." Imagine how disappointed Marty must have felt when he realized just how mentally apathetic but somehow comfortable Rust was not even phased with what he was ordered to draw for his evidence book. Its like he's thinking "Why couldnt I just be a normal cop? A guy who beats up bad guys who rob banks and then makes it home for dinner. This is the last thing I wanna be doing right now."
***** Nihilism, as a philosophy, goes back nearly 300 years. It resonates with every generation. Don't you think it might have resonated with those of us who grew up in the '50s, expecting the nuclear holocaust to come screaming down on us at any moment? Personally, I had a lot of time to reflect on the meaning of life, or lack thereof, while hunkered under my little school desk, waiting for the bombs.
Nancy Hall Yeah i kind of remember that kind of feeling growing up in the 80s'. then having that feeling magnified when we had the compulsory viewing of Threads' which left me crapping myself
Nihilism rejects morality and law. Quite evidently, Rust doesn't. I feel as if the writers considered this; and went for the pessimist approach. which nails him down to a tee.
For me this scene also shows how hard it is for people with mental issues, depression, addictions, manic states and so on to talk openly to people who didnt encounter that type of sickness yet. It often ends up in a convesations where both left a bit confused, misunderstood and frightened. When you are healthy person, after such a conversation what you do is just you go on with your life and dont think about it much. But when you are sick minded even such blink of a moment can throw your into a critical condition. Rust is an alcoholic and maybe the mention of that bottle of whine in combination to what that day ment to Rust are two little sparkles that did cause a firestorm of chaos inside his head. we all know in what condition Rust was when he came to that dinner.
Rust agrees with Friedrich Nietzche's postulate that human life is pointless, meaningless and absurd. But he rejects Nietzche's notion of "will to power" - that the strong should subjugate or destroy the weak. Rust is compassionate toward the weak. He tries to protect them. But he knows that as a whole, humanity is an abomination of nature.
@@Woodesies Psychopath? I would like you to elaborate on your position. Unless you read the copies of his Nazi sister, whom Nietzsche abhored for her idealogue behavior, or you're peddling common myths, I can't fathom how you came to such a conclusion.
getfitdit Considering the fact that I'm very vegetarian and taken, I'm gonna say thanks, but sadly, no thanks. Nice compliment though ;-) take care, Kat
Zieltarzyna That was a joke we're obviously in different Countries, your still hot though so at least you can take that with you and not feel to devastated at missing out on a burger and chips, take care yourself
Well no, not really. The point is Rust sees that evolution step, which is totally natural and it's totally normal for us to exist for natural law, as a negative thing. That's the point. He's a pessimist, that's his philosophical point of view. Doesn't make it true.
Mcconaughey's speech at 2:00 is absolutely outstanding. Well done to the writers and him and Harrelson for making this my already favorite show of 2014
I came across this on Wikipedia while searching information on Rust's words: "Nic Pizzolatto, creator and writer of True Detective has cited Benatar's Better Never to Have Been as an influence on the TV series (along with Ray Brassier's Nihil Unbound, Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, Jim Crawford's Confessions of an Antinatalist, and Eugene Thacker's In The Dust of This Planet)." If you want to know more about what Rust is talking about then "Better Never to Have Been" is the book for you.
Man, that dialogue is so amazing, I loved watching the show from the beggining but that scene is the moment I went «Oh my we're in for a ride» and what a great show it was.. Like, no other tv series had such a strong impact on me.. Rust is.. no words.. and his story ark makes him so deep and human even though he seems really detached from everyone around him and all inside his head and philosophy.. Probably one of the greatest character ever written
Brilliant season from stem to stern. I knew I was in for something special after witnessing this scene for the first time. The philosophy of Rustin Cohle (Nic Pizzolatto) is so spot-on in regards to the reality of this life/world. It truly fits the idiom of "lightning in a bottle." Something that can rarely be captured again, if ever.
"That's form of meditation. I contemplate the moment in the garden and the idea of allowing your own crucifixion." Ironically, every Christian should do this meditation.
I love how the moment Rust decides that he's going to dump it all on Marty is when he started attacking his personality directly. that headturn to Marty is Rust thinking "ok yeah I wasn't gonna go there cuz I knew you wouldn't appreciate the conversation, but you wanna go? let's go then." then he proceeded to annoy Marty to the point of ending the convo so he'd hopefully never have to deal with those kind of questions from him again. the "let me tell you something, you're not great outside of parties either" was what sent him over the edge.
the writing in this series is second to none. Savored everything Rust and Marty had to say - and Woody and Matthew were perfect for their roles. I couldn't imagine any other pairing.
"holy crap, what a ride! This must be the best TV show in history. You have any ideas you can share with us for season 2, Mr Palazzo?" "Ok so like there's this biker cop that can't get his dick up...."
I don't know, I keep coming back to this bit - a fave from this series. Woody knows these pissy-faced types well - as evidenced by his stellar performance in this season, but McC's nihilistic lines here really hit home. Classic.
I just noticed how at 0:46 when Hart asks Rust about if he's Christian power line poles that look like crosses start to appear and remain through out the conversation until they stop talking about it
I’m am extremely good at parties yet I’m also 100% with Rust and I’ve been depressed (realist/pessimist) since I remember myself. As Rust said - “I bear witness” - programming
0:34 I love this bit where he says “That is the most f*cked up thing I ever caught.... can I ask you something? You’re a Christian yeah?” I only just realised Martin was probably going to say “How do you reconcile suffering of those children with a loving Christian god?” with the hope that an intellectual reflective Christian like Rust might be able to give him a thoughtful but comforting answer to the problem of evil. Instead, it immediately shifts and instead of Martin turning to a wise Christian for comfort in despair he gets confirmation of his despair from a realist!
He has a point, we don't like to admit it though, like Martin. We like to live with a comfort blanked wrapped around us whenever an uncomfortable thought comes along, to shield us from the existential storm in our minds. I actually used to be exactly like rust, his thoughts are eerily similar to how I was thinking. I thought for a long time during my period of depression that life was a huge mistake, and our brains became too smart for our own good, and allowed us to destroy the ecosystem in greed, spreading around the planet like a virus, a virus which infects the deepest parts of our planet. And like Cole, I thought it would be better off if we all just died off as a race so the planet could go back to it's natural state, and we'd kill ourselves off anyway in war regardless, given we're bloodthirsty apes hell bent on destruction. Ironically, we're so selfish we can't even stop the destruction of our planet, when that will be our own undoing. Basically thoughts like this every day. I would speak to my family like this, and they would pretty much react in a similar way to Martin, telling me not to speak so negatively, and things aren't that bad. But I knew that was all bullshit, including the religion my parents brought me up with, telling me everything would turn out fine, it's all a lie to make as feel special and meaningful, a comfort blanket to hide from the cold reality. I remember telling my sister that the our sun will have evaporated all the oceans in a billion years, the Earth will be incinerated, and then engulfed by the sun in 7 billion years when it goes red giant; and us, the evolutionary dead end of the human race will already be gone by then anyway given the current path we're on. All the stars will eventually burn out and the universe will be nothing but black holes, dead stars and empty space. She shook her head in disbelief, saying there's got to be more to it than that (she's a Christian). Denying the truth right in front of her eyes. I said there doesn't have to be, and there isn't, that's all there is and you won't even know it because you'll be dead. I contemplated suicide many times, but never went through with it. I've grown less pessimistic and depressed now, and more positive, which is a good thing. But I still view life and the universe as meaningless as ever, but at least I have a subjective illusion of a purpose, and there are some things in life which make it worth living, albeit for the short time we have. Our existence, however troubled, is something to be cherished. To be able to ponder the world, having enough intelligence to decipher it, and having the power to effect things in the world, is worth something in itself.
Man i came to the same conclussion over n over again since like. Couple of years but non stopping doing things and living life. You know. Working out. Hanging out. Studuying working. Everything is so meaningless and we will all die someday. I even often come to think of suicide beacuse of that. Whats it all mean. Nothing. But. Why the hurry lets just put some effort to achieve some things have the life standard you want meet some girls have some sex trying love someone. Fuck everything. Once i had this conversation with my mom. Told her if she would accept my goodbye. She said if your love to your family doesnt maintain you here. You need psychologic help. In a very inofensive tone. But thats it. not afraid of die. Anytime will do it i dont mind. Theres no reason for living but its kinda a gift. It must have more pleasures or some moments. Call it positive shit. Pesimist shit. Its just reality and the way you choose to face it.
Revisiting this scene for the thousandth time, I must say it's hilarious how Marty literally drags Rust's opinions out of him, and then immediately after Rust starts to explain his perspective, Marty tells him he "wouldn't go around spoutin' that shit, I was you"; yeah, because clearly Rust openly divulges this deep part of his thought process to just about everyone.
He's not a pessimist, he's more of a nihilist, at least in what he says: life has no meaning is the upshot. However, his actions show he believes in good and evil, which I think makes him not a total nihilist.
It's funny because usually the people who ask others to "chill the fuck out" want to keep their eyes closed. Any philosophy which lacks optimism is killed at the gates before it can enter paradise.
I love Marty's facial expressions as he starts to regret having started this conversation.
Yes...priceless..magnifico acting
Rust portrays the minority who uses their brain think critically and Marty portrays the society which is the biggest arrogance source ever.
"We are creatures that should not exist by natural law."
"That sounds God-fucking awful Rust."
Perfect, these guys are golden.
Rust ain't wrong. Humans as they exist today are an unnatural aberration.
@@SelectiveApathy82 If you really believed that, you'd off yourself. Not advocating for that, just saying. People like you love to talk a big game.
@@chuckn4851 I lack the constitution for suicide. And I'm pretty sure there's nothing else after this short existence so why off myself and deprive myself of creature comforts whilst I'm here? I'll be gone soon enough. In the meantime I want some pasta with truffles.
@@SelectiveApathy82 It’s very easy to fall into nihilism. Once you fall down there you often lose the will to climb out. Took me a few years to get out. We are of nature like rust says, nature continues regardless of our existence. We merely fight nature but eventually it will take us, it’s inevitable. Most religions speak of the end of the world for a reason. We all know this won’t last forever. We deny it but it’s true. I say, why live your short existence in misery and contempt? Why not make the most of yourself and possibly even leave something of yourself behind, no matter how flawed it may be. Whether a god or an afterlife exists is irrelevant imo.
@@allsmilesguy I have a good job, had a girlfriend about 7 months ago (gotten lazy and complacent with the single life), a few close friends and siblings/parents/relatives that care about me. I plan to try and enjoy what little time I have here, but I'm not born with the gifts required to light the world on fire. If I was that kind of person I'd have done it by now. There won't be any glowing news stories or magazine articles about me when I'm gone.
I got an idea.
Let's make the UA-cam comments a place of silent reflection from now on.
That's awesome
ZorbaTheDutch Truer words, never spoken.
ZorbaTheDutch I wouldn't go around spouting that shit if I was you... People around here don't think that way
+bahramg82 I don't think that way
+ZorbaTheDutch .................written and typed words have always been silent.
"You asked."
"Yeah, and now I'm begging you to shut the fuck up."
"I get a bad taste in my mouth out here. Aluminum. Ash. I can smell a psychosphere."
"I got an idea. Lets make the car a place of silent reflection from now on, okay?"
Haha. Brilliant script, and these two just knock it out of the park.
Rust is the kind of character who looks and sounds really cool and compelling on screen, but he would be an absolute NIGHTMARE to work with IRL. Like Dr. House.
The psychosphere comment always cracks me up lmao
Rust brings up the taste of aluminum and ash on there way to Errol Childress’s house in the finale
@@kdizzle901 yep, really nice detail
Hart: Did you watch the oscars?
Cohle: I think celebrity worship is just another way of tricking ourselves into believing that we can be somebody when deep down we know that even celebrities are nobodies.
Hart: So... No?
@James Shelledy why don't you fuck off asshat
@James Shelledy fuck off
@James Shelledy fuck off
Fuck off
This isn't exactly how cohle would have articulated it. Try again in another 6 years or so.
Rust is an idol for those of us who are bad at parties.
Quiet people have the loudest minds.
JGuilherme Rust is quiet? LOL
Agreed
And people bad outside of parties
@Jacob McMahan Of course. I can't say for every single individual in a type of personality. Sometimes a random comment on the internet is from a jerk.
You see what I did there?
That’s the most messed up Lincoln commercial I have ever seen
LOL
Ahahaha
Underrated
Haha!
Fuckin dead
I've never been to Louisiana, and I've heard it's nothing but class, but holy shit. The way the director filmed this series made it look like a swampy, haunted maze full of terror & doubt. It's as if the landscape is one of the main characters.
I was born in Alabama and have many relatives in Louisiana. Louisiana is probably the most unique state that I've ever been to as far as culture is concerned, and this show nails the physical aspects of the state to a fucking T. The crime, crumbling infrastructure, factories/powerplants/refineries, the accents of the people, and the brutal terrain and the weather. One of the writers had to have lived there without a doubt.
Louisiana is a beautiful state and some amazing unique cities that you won’t find anywhere in America like Baton Rouge, Alexandria and New Orleans. So unique and they have such a vibe to them. This show is shot in southern Louisiana, specifically on the sub region of the Mississippi delta south of New Orleans. The place is absolutely hauntingly beautiful especially during rain storms. Places like this cannot be seen, they are felt.
@@tideatmilehigh2727 The show producer himself, Nic Pizzolatto, grew up in New Orleans and graduated from LSU. So there's your answer right there. He also got his MFA from University of Arkansas (setting of Season 3, 2019).
@@cereal-killer4455 Not to nitpick, but references to Lake Charles and Lafayette seem to put the show in SW La, which is Acadiana but not part of the Delta below New Orleans.
Having the setting as an almost antagonist is a key part of good noir
This scene is what hooked me. I watched this entire season mostly just to see what Rust would say next.
"And I lack the constitution for suicide" I love how fed up Marty looks when he says that. He was expecting friendly small talk, but instead Rust's nihilistic ruminations hit him like a fucking truck.
He asked
I find these situations hilarious because I also reply with complete honesty to these type of questions.
It's people who say they don't have the "constitution for suicide" who actually aren't pessimistic at all. They're usually optimists masking their optimism with pessimism as a defense mechanism for coping with reality when things end up not working out how they wish they did. They're usually holding out for hope that they will somehow reach an epiphany in their life that changes their outlook, which Cohle had that epiphany.
The reality is that they're scared of suicide because they want to be proven wrong. This is why I believe there is no such thing as a nihilist, because all true nihilists kill themselves. Those who don't are only kidding themselves, since they clearly value something in life to hold on to theirs, directly contradicting their world-view that "nothing matters".
@@bud389 👌💯
@@bud389 Which is exactly the case for Rust
@@bud389 Like Rust said I consider myself a realist but people will assume I'm a pessimist. I'm not scared of suicide nor I want a life changing experience, more like I'm curious to see what's going to happen to the world. Also just because nothing matters doesn't mean I can't do things I like. I was thrown in this world against my will anyway so why not enjoy it doing the things I like instead of just crying about how painful it is? That's kind of a misconception about people with this kind of view. Rust is a fictional character exaggerated to the utmost pessimism. I'm sure there's people like him but he's clearly unhealthy + the death of his daughter and all the drug abuse messed with him.
In the words of Thomas Ligotti: "Some critics of the pessimist often think they have his back to the wall when they blithely jeer, “If that is how this fellow feels, he should either kill himself or be decried as a hypocrite"
"Simply because someone has reached the conclusion that the amount of suffering in this world is enough that anyone would be better off never having been born does not mean that by force of logic or sincerity he must kill himself. It only means he has concluded that the amount of suffering in this world is enough that anyone would be better off never having been born. Others may disagree on this point as it pleases them, but they must accept that if they believe themselves to have a stronger case than the pessimist, then they are mistaken"
That's the same as if an optimistic person kills himself and a realist/pessimist goes "how did such a happy person take his own life? Wasn't he always talking about how good life is? He's such a hypocrite!". We wouldn't do that because that's stupid. Factors other than the person's view of existence like depression can lead to suicide. And who am I to judge people's motives for doing anything with their own lives?
I love their chemistry, it's quite unique.
Hell yeah wish it would of continue with them would of been a great series, but still love the show
They really pair up super well. And the fact that Matthew is actually a devoted Christian and Woody is an atheist makes these dialogues between them even more better, really shows how professional they are. Brilliant scene.
I felt that way too but now later, I think the fixed set worked perfect. Pure diamond with a great end. No need to overdo it. (reply to Vince)
Hell yeah, shit I have that whole series on my phone I watched it about 4 times I ain't gonna lie it's just so fuckin good man lol. I was reading that Matthew said that he missed rust Cole on Sundays do they might bring it bk with woody and Matthew.. If they do can't wait to see what s next
Vince Johnson
Both Matt and Woody are open to more but the series' creator Pizzolatto has already ventured to other things so it's highly unlikely the show will have a 3rd season.
Honestly, I think it's a good thing. Season 2 was a complete lackluster. It didn't have any of the character tension or the plot, it was just a mess.
Marty didn't know he was opening up Pandora's Box. Once Rust starts pontificating, he just can't stop.
The best part is that Rust warned him. Marty just had to open the box.
Now I’m BEGGING you to stop
one tiny, enclosed space, two actors and a camera. and you get more cinematography in these 5 minutes than you'd get from an entire holywood movie.
+guguigugu or season 2
+Ygor Souza YES
That is the beauty of Cary Fukunaga's style of film-making. If you haven't already, watch his latest piece on Netflix, "Beasts of No Nation". It was arguably one of my favorite movies of 2015.
There are too many things wrong with what you said. First off, I counted four angles, so there should be at least two cameras rolling at the same time.
Second, WTF r you talking about when you when you say "cinematography"? The cinematographer probably didn't even show up for this, too simple to shoot, all the genius is in the writing and acting for this scene.
you have shamed me deeply. i should have known better. i shall momentarily delete my praiseful comment, which has garnered 100 upvotes already and has obviously resonated with well-meaning viewers around the globe, in spite of all its deficiencies that you felt so drawn to point out.
i apologise for any inconvenience it may have caused you.
I struggle to think of a better scene than this in any show I've seen.
Utopia airport scene.. Or any scene from 1993 Naked
Look at other scenes from the same show.
Mr robot talking about religion
The leftovers, you're welcome.
Different scenes in Breaking Bad. Also multiple scenes in Succession.
The chemistry between Rust and Marty is so effortless and captivating. Just a joy to watch.
Is it just me....but can anyone imagine or phantom Marlon Brandon playing Rust?
It's because they are brothers
They're friends in real life. The chemistry is already there
Rust: (delivers a long, misanthropic monologue about how humanity should terminate itself)
Marty: When you're at my house for dinner please don't mention any of that
Rust: Of course Marty, I'm not some kind of maniac. Fucks sake.
Thank you for reciting the video we all watched.
Being misanthropic doesn't make him a madman. He's still able to put on a civil and polite demeanor when he's a guest in someone's home, especially with kids present.
@@Bootheater1 What, you saying reciting something from a video is forbidden?
Didn't sound misanthropic. I don't see where's the hate for humans in the dialogue.
@@SelectiveApathy82 You realize psychopaths do that on a daily basis, right?
"Mmm that sounds... God-fucking awful, Rust" I died there
Woody had some of the best delivery I’ve ever seen in a film or television
Did you die? Did you really? Or are you giving us false hope that the world is rid of your banality?
"Let's make the car a place of silent reflection." XD
One of the best pieces of dialogue in the last 20 years.
Despite his pessimistic attitude, rust is what i would call a "cautious optimist". His actions betray his words. If he truly thought humanity was doomed, why would he bother trying to save dora? Its because she represents his last shred of hope in humanity. He wants to believe in good.
damn right
He states very clearly that he is not predisposed to suicide and that he is a victim of his "programing". Do a little research on the illusion of free will and then write a more intelligent comment.
Good point
I don't agree. these two things are completely separate. His being a pessimist doesn't mean that he should stop trying when he is placed in some specific context in which he is obliged to take action or help when the circumsantaces call for him. This doesn't mean that he has hope for human race. He just does what he has to when he has to without any hope or illusion of fulfillment. And his past is a big part of his life. A part that has made him realize the truth of futility. Your past is not separate from you life. he lives through his whole life which is an illusion just like everybody else's as he says.
Good point if he truly believed his philosophy he wouldnt be a detective and try to solve these cases and put in end do all the mayhem and murder surrounding the series. If i had to say what he is rust is a pessimistic realist in the sense he knows how far you can truly make a difference in a world that is so full of shit
"Let's make the car a place of silent reflection" has become a household phrase in my family.
In mine too, except that I often suggest making the entire house a place of silent reflection!
'I can smell the psychosphere'
I got an idea let's make the comment section...a place of silent reflection from now on...ok?! ;)
***** I smell the spam-o-sphere
"Stop saying odd shit... that you can 'smell a psycho's fear.'"
@@HolyMackerel490 Marty is so silly.
psycho's fear? :)
I think people don't understand how fucking hilarious Woody is in this scene. For example: 2:15 that's god awful that sarcastic joking way. It's just amazing.
I literally die every time and then go back to having an existential crisis during his monologue.
Marty: "How'd you sleep buddy?
Russ: "I'm about to dislocate this man's mind and cast him into an existent crisis.
The dialogue on this show and hearing Rust's beliefs are outstanding, especially the line below that made me laugh:
Rust: "Look I consider myself a realist. Alright, but in philosophical terms, I'm what's called a pessimist."
Marty: "Ummm, okay, what's that mean?"
Rust: "Means I'm bad at parties."
Marty: "Let me tell ya, you ain't great outside of parties either."
The responses by Marty (Woody Harrelson) I've been with you three months do me a favor. I wouldn't go around spouting that shit. People around here don't think like that! I DON'T THINK LIKE THAT! Three months I don't hear anything from you. NOW I'm begging you to shut the fuck up! I got an Idea...Let's make the car a place of silent reflection....Russ then says "I don't drink...Oh! Of course NOT Russ! My Brother-in-Law and I watch this little scene every time he visits from Peru. It is SO FUNNY to laugh at this dark side humor
Whoever wrote this dialogue between them Has my vote as one of the best most honest real life dialogues out there on film. True Detective Season 1 is a MASTER PIECE of writing! That is why season 2 sucked! And Season 3 Saved the series!!!
Your favorite is a good "Ice-breaker" comment by both characters to test each other
All I could think of was when I worked for the County how all of this is Off-Limits to talk about
The shooting on film, the natural locations, art, direction, editing, cinematography and acting are all incredible. Truly mesmerizing television.
Agreed.
"And this one time, at band camp, I realised that all your life - you know, all your love, all your hate, all your memories, all your pain - it was all the same thing. It was all the same dream, a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream about being a person. And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it." - Rust Cohle, bad at parties.
I can't think of a better scene in any TV show than this.
relax
I would say the "Pass the butter" scene from Rick and Morty.They use humor to point their judgment on the topic,and they do it in a more simple & faster way.
The "I am the one who knocks" scene from breaking bad is better imo
The Shadow way better. Breaking Bad has a dozen scenes that blow ya away.
Are you just speaking about dialogue between characters? I love the dialogue in Game of Thrones. It’s so poetic at times. Breaking Bad, Thrones and this are my three fav shows.
Never been so afraid of words in my whole life.
***** Im just smiling
***** except that my brain produces a little dopamine so i can feel good^^
So you are afraid that you won't go to heaven ? that everything will be black since the time you die :p that sounds god fucking awful Equalitas
Most people deny reality its just the more comfortable route which is understandable
@@patgogan7324 Well if we go to heaven we will know for sure. And if you die and your just nonexistent then I guess you will never know. But in all honesty the reality is we don't know and will not know for certain until it happens.
In screenwriting classes and courses, every instructor says to NEVER WRITE A SCENE like this one. Where it's just two characters talking. Yet it's done time and time again on True Detective and everybody LOVES IT. It's like the screenwriting pros/ teachers want no one to break barriers or rules, but when it's done on a large scale, the applaud it. Fucking annoying. I love the show btw, this isn't a rant against True Detective but towards the screenwriting teachers/ pros.
+Mark Valdez Do you. as long as you do with it conviction and reason...Fuck anyone that tells you anything different.
Average people are unlikely to pull a scene like this off. The teachers correctly assume most who come to them to be 'average' (flexible term, but I'm sure you understand), so tell them not to do it, but in the rare - but possible - case that someone who is above-average comes along, they know that if the student is of any worth then they'll only follow what the mentor says to a degree. If this student believes they can pull a scene like this off then chances are they will. Therefore, they simply make sure the sheep follow the flock, knowing the others will find their own way. I'm not at all a teacher, nor do I have any qualifications regarding screenwriting, but I'd hope my input has some weight to it despite this.
Really makes me wonder what kinda classes have you attended. Dialogue is the very key in screenwriting and in writing in general. There is not one screenwriter on Earth (who knows anything about writing) who says not to write a scene like this. Not one.
Seppo Kepponen I agree. Im not even in screenwriting and in figured this out.
attending screenwriting classes is your first mistake.
I watched the eight episodes in less than 24 hours.
Amazing show, complete in all aspects.
This conversation between the two in the first episode was a very strong scene for me, the character Cohle says in a clear way what nobody wants to hear! That's how this show is soo well written. After this first episode I went to sleep thinking about my life. ... a very good feeling after seeing a TV show.
I watched them in less than 8 hours actually...
Marty:"Tell me a little more about yourself"
Narrator: "Within seconds of this request, he knew he had fucked up"
Such a shame they only did one series together...great series, great actors, great partnership!!
This show is beyond amazing. When you watch it 10x over you realize how well thought out every line of this show truly is. Goddamn masterpiece
You get a glimpse into Rust's mind and it's terrifying.
***** Hear...hear. ^_^ I felt like I was looking into a soul mirror and saw my true self... and she is a man name Rust. XD
Yusiley Sierra Nihilists do not use the ^_^ emoticon! Or the XD one, either! They only use one, and that's :|
ILoooooveCamels I thought nihilists don't use emoticons.
MrTwhispers
Niiice. Me approve!
MrTwhispers I don't know if you're not getting my joke or I'm not getting your joke.
"I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight - brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal."
Love you rust
Reddit moment
@@Bilboswaggins2077 Reddit would start crying and downvoting him. Reddit is not an accepting place for free thinkers and ideas.
thank you !!
I agree 100% with every word he said.
I've felt Rust became disillusioned with life when his daughter died, or at least disillusioned with the idea of a good or purpose filled life. It seems to me he couldn't reconcile the two. The only way to rationalize his existence from that point forward without accepting that someone he loved was taken from him; is that life has no meaning. (Rust: We force ourselves to create meaning because we have to believe we are important, we have to believe our love means something.) Throughout the show he continues to share his philosophy with others reaffirming to himself that he doesn't have to bare the burden of understanding why his daughter was taken from him. Something I've found about Rust character is he is honest with himself even when he's trying to run from what he is scared of. Rust throughout the show is actually the moral leader, I would argue far more so than Marty. Marty is just like the rest of us, so sure of the comfortablness of his existence and he doesn't dig into his own character because he isn't wrestling with his own existence the same way Rust is. Rust can never let himself fully go. Because i believe his connection to his daughter was so strong. I believe this is why he doesn't kill himself and he still dedicates himself to stopping people who are committing injustice. I believe it's the same reason he is a very deep thinker and has come up with so many explanations of why life is meaningless, because it's the only thing that can remove him from his daughters death. It stood out to me how when Marty for the first time asks Rust what he believes in, ( asks if he's a Christian because of cross on his wall.) Rust says he's not a Christian but it is a form of meditation. He then explains that he contemplates the garden and the idea of allowing your own crucifixion. This really stood out to me, especially as an opening characterization of oneself's beliefs. Because the meditation he is referring to is allowing yourself to be sacrificed in the place of another, completely willingly, not forced. It is the greatest concept of love within the Christian religion. It is the choice Jesus made to willingly be captured and crucified. One of the most meaningful things you could meditate on as far as history would think. Considering the popularity and importance of Christianity throughout history. So his own self charactization from the very beginning implies that he meditates on meaning and still considers it at least. I think this really all comes full circle in the end when his belief in life is reconciled when he experiences his daughters love and he realizes that that love does mean something and there is something to hope in.
My favorite tv show of all time and something I always come back thinking about.
Thank you!!
I think in the complete same direction and love to see that someone else doesn't just accept Rusts character but asks where he comes from. Nobody is born like that. I think you are exactly right when you say he is like he is because his brains wants to protect him from the pain of losing his daughter. This is how all of our brains work we just have other tactics to cope with trauma. What Rusts need to be somewhat normal is a psychologist. But I think he saw beauty in live again in the end of the season
That was really well said.
I agree with everything except the Christian stuff.
@@sumanadasawijayapala5372 may I ask what you disagree with.
@@Isosceles8818 The Christian part. Christianity is not the only religion that talks about self-sacrifice. Arguably Christianity doesn't even do it that well. Did Jesus hang on the cross in self-sacrifice or simply because he was caught and executed?
Harrelsons responses are hilarious 😂😂😂😂.
‘I pick today to get to know you’
I love the not so subtle contempt Rust displays when he says "No." when Marty asks him if he is a Christian.
HAhaha at the end of that intense convo when marty says "Listen when you're in my house I want you to chill the fuck out. Don't even mention any of that bullshit you just said to me." I lol'd so hard XD lmoa!
Friggin awesome show.
Believing procreation is unethical is not necessarily pessimistic, it’s just brutally honest, and most people can’t handle the truth of it. True compassion
means caring enough about others’ suffering to at least not perpetuate it, regardless of how unpopular or unconventional it may be. Once you bring someone into existence, you ensure their suffering (where otherwise there would have been no suffering). Not procreating is the only way to guarantee the prevention of suffering.
Suffering is good
I agree.
I feel so bad for Marty in this scene. This is the 1st case he's worked on with Rust and what is he greeted to? A woman who was tortured to death and then ritualistically tied to a tree as the life was slowly drained from her eyes. You can tell Marty was not mentally prepared for seeing something like that so he was thinking "The soul crushing silence of this car ride back to the house is killing me inside I need an ice breaker for me to not think about it."
Imagine how disappointed Marty must have felt when he realized just how mentally apathetic but somehow comfortable Rust was not even phased with what he was ordered to draw for his evidence book. Its like he's thinking "Why couldnt I just be a normal cop? A guy who beats up bad guys who rob banks and then makes it home for dinner. This is the last thing I wanna be doing right now."
Rust is so legit he makes you want to be a nihilistic son of a bitch...
*****
Yeah. The idea really caters to our generation.
***** Nihilism, as a philosophy, goes back nearly 300 years. It resonates with every generation. Don't you think it might have resonated with those of us who grew up in the '50s, expecting the nuclear holocaust to come screaming down on us at any moment? Personally, I had a lot of time to reflect on the meaning of life, or lack thereof, while hunkered under my little school desk, waiting for the bombs.
Nancy Hall Yeah i kind of remember that kind of feeling growing up in the 80s'. then having that feeling magnified when we had the compulsory viewing of Threads' which left me crapping myself
BRUNTER Wow they forced you to watch "Threads". What did they make you do after that self flagellation ie beating yourself. This world sucks.
Nihilism rejects morality and law. Quite evidently, Rust doesn't. I feel as if the writers considered this; and went for the pessimist approach. which nails him down to a tee.
For me this scene also shows how hard it is for people with mental issues, depression, addictions, manic states and so on to talk openly to people who didnt encounter that type of sickness yet. It often ends up in a convesations where both left a bit confused, misunderstood and frightened. When you are healthy person, after such a conversation what you do is just you go on with your life and dont think about it much. But when you are sick minded even such blink of a moment can throw your into a critical condition.
Rust is an alcoholic and maybe the mention of that bottle of whine in combination to what that day ment to Rust are two little sparkles that did cause a firestorm of chaos inside his head. we all know in what condition Rust was when he came to that dinner.
I don't know why, but Woody Harrelson's delivery of the line "Hmm, that's sounds god fucking awful Rust" cracks me up.
It’s like small talk with Emil Cioran lol
Rust agrees with Friedrich Nietzche's postulate that human life is pointless, meaningless and absurd. But he rejects Nietzche's notion of "will to power" - that the strong should subjugate or destroy the weak. Rust is compassionate toward the weak. He tries to protect them. But he knows that as a whole, humanity is an abomination of nature.
Well shit, he's hit the nail on the head
I feel like Nietzsche is often misunderstood as completely un-empathetic and Randian but I don’t think this is the case
Humanity is a gift to the universe
When someone mentions Nietzsche it's almost certain OP has misunderstood him completely.
@@Woodesies Psychopath? I would like you to elaborate on your position. Unless you read the copies of his Nazi sister, whom Nietzsche abhored for her idealogue behavior, or you're peddling common myths, I can't fathom how you came to such a conclusion.
The faces Marty makes during this conversation are fucking gold. Every reaction to each of Cohle's nihilistic remarks is perfect.
The best conversation ever! :D
Seeing as how us being here is a mistake and your hot lets meet we can go halves on a burger and chips, ya? good...
getfitdit
Considering the fact that I'm very vegetarian and taken, I'm gonna say thanks, but sadly, no thanks. Nice compliment though ;-) take care, Kat
Zieltarzyna That was a joke we're obviously in different Countries, your still hot though so at least you can take that with you and not feel to devastated at missing out on a burger and chips, take care yourself
That's a Big Affirmative...Because it shows Real Honesty with feelings...Almost
Probably one of the best scenes ever released on a TV show. Priceless.
( ... and 100% true)
Well no, not really. The point is Rust sees that evolution step, which is totally natural and it's totally normal for us to exist for natural law, as a negative thing. That's the point. He's a pessimist, that's his philosophical point of view. Doesn't make it true.
Christian Cristof
Take a look at the world today mate, truth speaks by itself.
Leandro Valdez Lol, people can be good or bad. Point is, we are totally natural.
"I got an idea. Lets make the car a place of silent reflection from now on Okay?" I crack up every single time :D
One of the best conversations ever put to film.
Mcconaughey's speech at 2:00 is absolutely outstanding. Well done to the writers and him and Harrelson for making this my already favorite show of 2014
Almost 10 years later, still my favorite show ever.
Best first season of any show ever!
One of the best scenes ever made
I came across this on Wikipedia while searching information on Rust's words:
"Nic Pizzolatto, creator and writer of True Detective has cited Benatar's Better Never to Have Been as an influence on the TV series (along with Ray Brassier's Nihil Unbound, Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, Jim Crawford's Confessions of an Antinatalist, and Eugene Thacker's In The Dust of This Planet)." If you want to know more about what Rust is talking about then "Better Never to Have Been" is the book for you.
I know I’m not the only person who finds this whole exchange hilarious
Jesus this is the best dialogue in anything ever. I was recommended to watch this and it had me rolling immediately.
Jesus is a myth
I now want to own a bar called Giant Gutter in Outer Space
this scene hit me so hard. cause its the exact same way i feel about life sometimes. never give up guys
Notice how the power line poles look like endless crucifixes going by. Coincidence or purposeful imagery?
Def purposeful
Purposeful imagery for sure, that's what keep religions thoughts goen. Everything is unclear, but you got to have faith!
or maybe it's just back country Louisiana.
Brilliant
@@frankanderson21 But if "back country Louisiana" just by random happenchance provides a great artistic/film symbol, then so much the better.
This scene hits so deep.
This movie is so brilliant. No words to describe it.
Man, that dialogue is so amazing, I loved watching the show from the beggining but that scene is the moment I went «Oh my we're in for a ride» and what a great show it was.. Like, no other tv series had such a strong impact on me.. Rust is.. no words.. and his story ark makes him so deep and human even though he seems really detached from everyone around him and all inside his head and philosophy.. Probably one of the greatest character ever written
it's based on thomas ligotti 's book the conspiracy against the human race
"I think the Honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming and walk hand in hand with each other into our extinction"
Rust helped me understand me more.
Even besides that, the show is a masterpiece.
10000000 times superior to season 2
Ascdsacd Scsadc you may be right but I still loved season 2
agreed, but season 2 WAS good
***** that was a sad and terrible cruel way to die.
Yeah you are right, but manchester is red.
Man Utd 10000000 times superior to Man City
Rust is a so fucking awesome in this series, but we gotta give credit to Woody here. He makes this shit work
Brilliant season from stem to stern. I knew I was in for something special after witnessing this scene for the first time. The philosophy of Rustin Cohle (Nic Pizzolatto) is so spot-on in regards to the reality of this life/world. It truly fits the idiom of "lightning in a bottle." Something that can rarely be captured again, if ever.
Tarkus2040 definitely
“You’re not great outside the parties either”
"That's form of meditation. I contemplate the moment in the garden and the idea of allowing your own crucifixion." Ironically, every Christian should do this meditation.
I got an idea, let's make the UA-cam comment section a place of silent reflection from now on.
A masterpiece of human cinematography
I love how the moment Rust decides that he's going to dump it all on Marty is when he started attacking his personality directly. that headturn to Marty is Rust thinking "ok yeah I wasn't gonna go there cuz I knew you wouldn't appreciate the conversation, but you wanna go? let's go then." then he proceeded to annoy Marty to the point of ending the convo so he'd hopefully never have to deal with those kind of questions from him again. the "let me tell you something, you're not great outside of parties either" was what sent him over the edge.
These two were BORN to act together. True Detective season 1 was the ULTIMATE ! Best acting week after week.
Some of the greatest dialogue to ever appear on TV. Outstanding stuff
the writing in this series is second to none. Savored everything Rust and Marty had to say - and Woody and Matthew were perfect for their roles. I couldn't imagine any other pairing.
Cheer up Rust. Christ. I thought I was depressed until I watched this character. ;)
Damn. Here I am coming back to this.
"holy crap, what a ride! This must be the best TV show in history. You have any ideas you can share with us for season 2, Mr Palazzo?"
"Ok so like there's this biker cop that can't get his dick up...."
I don't know, I keep coming back to this bit - a fave from this series. Woody knows these pissy-faced types well - as evidenced by his stellar performance in this season, but McC's nihilistic lines here really hit home. Classic.
I just noticed how at 0:46 when Hart asks Rust about if he's Christian power line poles that look like crosses start to appear and remain through out the conversation until they stop talking about it
"When you are at my house, I want you to chill the fuck out..." Hahaha loved that part.
I love the imagery of the crosses from the power lines in the background
This is so real its slightly scary.
Man, i did not appreciate this scene enough 10 years ago.
This scene is gold. I laughed my ass ofd
This is the greatest piece of scene writing in recent history
Easily best singular season of tv
I love how this show makes conversations in a car entertaining
I’m am extremely good at parties yet I’m also 100% with Rust and I’ve been depressed (realist/pessimist) since I remember myself.
As Rust said - “I bear witness” - programming
0:34 I love this bit where he says “That is the most f*cked up thing I ever caught.... can I ask you something? You’re a Christian yeah?” I only just realised Martin was probably going to say “How do you reconcile suffering of those children with a loving Christian god?” with the hope that an intellectual reflective Christian like Rust might be able to give him a thoughtful but comforting answer to the problem of evil. Instead, it immediately shifts and instead of Martin turning to a wise Christian for comfort in despair he gets confirmation of his despair from a realist!
Wow good insight that's exactly what Marty was thinking when he asked that, deep down we all know Rust is right
😂😂😂 what a bs
He has a point, we don't like to admit it though, like Martin. We like to live with a comfort blanked wrapped around us whenever an uncomfortable thought comes along, to shield us from the existential storm in our minds. I actually used to be exactly like rust, his thoughts are eerily similar to how I was thinking. I thought for a long time during my period of depression that life was a huge mistake, and our brains became too smart for our own good, and allowed us to destroy the ecosystem in greed, spreading around the planet like a virus, a virus which infects the deepest parts of our planet. And like Cole, I thought it would be better off if we all just died off as a race so the planet could go back to it's natural state, and we'd kill ourselves off anyway in war regardless, given we're bloodthirsty apes hell bent on destruction. Ironically, we're so selfish we can't even stop the destruction of our planet, when that will be our own undoing. Basically thoughts like this every day. I would speak to my family like this, and they would pretty much react in a similar way to Martin, telling me not to speak so negatively, and things aren't that bad. But I knew that was all bullshit, including the religion my parents brought me up with, telling me everything would turn out fine, it's all a lie to make as feel special and meaningful, a comfort blanket to hide from the cold reality.
I remember telling my sister that the our sun will have evaporated all the oceans in a billion years, the Earth will be incinerated, and then engulfed by the sun in 7 billion years when it goes red giant; and us, the evolutionary dead end of the human race will already be gone by then anyway given the current path we're on. All the stars will eventually burn out and the universe will be nothing but black holes, dead stars and empty space. She shook her head in disbelief, saying there's got to be more to it than that (she's a Christian). Denying the truth right in front of her eyes. I said there doesn't have to be, and there isn't, that's all there is and you won't even know it because you'll be dead.
I contemplated suicide many times, but never went through with it. I've grown less pessimistic and depressed now, and more positive, which is a good thing. But I still view life and the universe as meaningless as ever, but at least I have a subjective illusion of a purpose, and there are some things in life which make it worth living, albeit for the short time we have. Our existence, however troubled, is something to be cherished. To be able to ponder the world, having enough intelligence to decipher it, and having the power to effect things in the world, is worth something in itself.
aside from human mortality, the sun devouring the earth and the impending heat death of the universe, try to live a little in the moment, ok?
You and rust took the words right out of my mind, this is exactly how I have been feeling lately. I'm just trying to cope, but it's tough.
Man i came to the same conclussion over n over again since like. Couple of years but non stopping doing things and living life. You know. Working out. Hanging out. Studuying working. Everything is so meaningless and we will all die someday. I even often come to think of suicide beacuse of that. Whats it all mean. Nothing. But. Why the hurry lets just put some effort to achieve some things have the life standard you want meet some girls have some sex trying love someone. Fuck everything. Once i had this conversation with my mom. Told her if she would accept my goodbye. She said if your love to your family doesnt maintain you here. You need psychologic help. In a very inofensive tone. But thats it. not afraid of die. Anytime will do it i dont mind. Theres no reason for living but its kinda a gift. It must have more pleasures or some moments. Call it positive shit. Pesimist shit. Its just reality and the way you choose to face it.
Man, such beautiful words you wrote!!!
I feel the same way.
Rust Cohle always droppin knowledge
Revisiting this scene for the thousandth time, I must say it's hilarious how Marty literally drags Rust's opinions out of him, and then immediately after Rust starts to explain his perspective, Marty tells him he "wouldn't go around spoutin' that shit, I was you"; yeah, because clearly Rust openly divulges this deep part of his thought process to just about everyone.
"Of course not Marty. I'm not some king of maniac alright?" - The comedy of this show is so underrated
what should I bring for dinner? lol
It's a way we "Deflect" in a conversation that's so Seriously against our beliefs
One of the funniest stuff I have ever seen. Could be a sketch on saturday night live.
I mean, he is also correct lol
He's not a pessimist, he's more of a nihilist, at least in what he says: life has no meaning is the upshot. However, his actions show he believes in good and evil, which I think makes him not a total nihilist.
There's more than one kind of nihilism. Rust is not a moral nihilist, but I think he's an existential nihilist.
I’m here because my husband sent this video telling me I am rust.
It's funny because usually the people who ask others to "chill the fuck out" want to keep their eyes closed. Any philosophy which lacks optimism is killed at the gates before it can enter paradise.
Well, mostly humans still want to continue this existence so
@@elboscohieronymusbosch370 That's because most humans are stupid.