Compilation of Rust Cohle's Pessimistic Philosophy True Detective (Season One) Compiled by: Andrew Gardner **I do not own the rights to the content herein.
It's true that much of this was plagiarized, finding this out caused me to read "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race" by Ligotti. It sounds like an exaggeration, but that book really fucked with me and put me in a weird head space for close to two months. I'd advise not to read it if you're mentally ill or suffering from depression, it has some compelling ideas about the futility of purpose in human endeavor, and the ways we ignore this in our day to day life. Brilliant book.
@@user-ei3qr9un9x it's telling a female friend that she is fat and that she has to get her ass on working out. Not out of malicious purposes, but on the contrary - because you do care. Where fake friends will go with "you are beautiful as you are, darling" bullshit for variety of reasons - from not giving a shit about anyone, to have someone uglier around which will make them look even better.
T. Va. Because it’s uncomfortable for people to be real, there’s a line between being a good friend and being an ass but I believe as long as it’s done in private and not done in a way to embarrass them then it’s ok
@@markjohn9309 you can be an ass and a good friend. Actions speak better than words. It's just today you have to fucking read half a vocabulary for all the variety of meanings of each word you are utilizing in formulating your speech to not, god forbid someone's twisted self-absorption masqueraded as sensitivity. Lies are sweet, honesty tastes bitter. That's beside that it was just a blunt example which was not meant being taking at a face value, but more like - pointing a direction. Which is IRONICALLY reinforces my point. And considering all of the above. How do you even tell someone who has weight problems that they have to do something about it without offending them? I tell you how - you fucking can't. It WILL HURT. It's like if tomorrow everyone will be unable to tell anything but truth (Liar, Liar), then - the next day will be a post-apocalypse. Not because honesty is bad, but because everything is so twisted and rotten.
Generally, this much introspection can disable a person from his normal functions. Life requires being numb to the truth to operate. Being this sober about life is debilitating.
Absolutely even entertaining these thoughts can deliver an instant dose of nihilistic/existential depression. Everyone around you is living a lie, the society you inhabit is a lie, religion is a lie. There is nothing.
He's a great actor. In the top 10 of greatest modern actors I'd say. Daniel Day Lewis is # 1, followed by Gary Oldman and a few others I can't bother to think of right now.
I rewatched this series while i was depressed as f**k. I can honestly say True Detective saved my life. To see a character so destroyed and so collapsed in life like Cole been able to say "the light is winning". Really gave me hope to believe in the future again. God bless the people who make this possible.
but what's bad about being a realist pessimist? I find more comfort living like that then to have expectations of good things happening and then be disappointed when it doesn't.
I believe that this has been Matthew's best performance to date. I'm glad he decided to stop the romcoms temporarily, because he is a remarkable actor.
Personal opinions aside, I think It's really great that a mainstream tv-show is presenting us with this kind of thought-process. Would never have happened just 10 years ago.
***** Twin Peaks is another question entirely. Hardly anything like this show. This show is deeply human. Lynch has never made anything this human in his career, he's concerned with other things and concepts. D.R.
When Cohle says about how you think moving to a new city and thinking you'll meet all these incredible people and be fulfilled resonates so much. I find myself thinking that sometimes, sell myself a story that must be true. God damn, the writing in the first series is just breathtaking
I found myself in this two times. I moved out from a small town in my country to a big city, then l left to foreign country. I also spent plenty of time travelling. Clouded glasses fall down and you start seeing that people pretty much live the same everywhere in a planet (ofc cultural differences, incomes people get.. different). Ppl try to thrive, feed their families, survive.
@@Garfields-rt3ef ...are you confused by what inadmissible means? The investigators are trying to catch Rust admitting to something. Even if he DID, which he didn't, they wouldn't actually be able to use it in court being having alcohol in your system nullifies your statements from being used in legal proceedings. That was clearly his intention with drinking during the interview. Does that make it easier for you?
I relate to this. Wanting to be dead, but not wanting to die. Suicide is hardwired into us to be avoided. He understands this and doesn't think less of himself for it.
@@randyrogers1853 you realize one can in fact be Catholic and not be a neocon. Hell to be Christian one swallows multiple blackpille in addition to white pills. You underestimate the depth of faith because you think Nietzsche is edgier. If one assumes God then Nietzsche is a misguided tragic fool, if one assumes no God, a tragic prophet. However I have seen enough that I cannot deny Christ.
@@ep_med7822 I actually don't like Nietzsche, nice try with the labelling though. Please highlight the sentence where I claimed that all neocons are Christian, and that all Christian's are neocons. In fact, please show me where I even specified "Christian."
The creepiest part of his description is when he very vaguely glosses over the idea of sentient beings living outside time observing us. "But to *them*...it's a circle". Who is them? Who is he referring to? How did he come about that idea? Scary stuff
when he says it hes straighten out the can ppl he cut out like he was giving reference point . like they where 2d but where in 3d i guess? @@1headphoneguy
Considering that they were both in production at the same time and were both released in the same year, it’s not unlikely that they had some mutual influence.
@@firstnamett4656 Which is why they are called IDEAologies, not humanologies. As soon as the second live human is put in any equasion our atypical nature flaws the original process. It probably is perfect for at least one of us.
I am worried that it didn't change anything in my case. My girlfriend told me Rust reminds her of me. 🤷♂️ I felt like almost everything he said came from my brain.. Spooky.
@TheGooners11 The truth isn't necessarily depressin, it depends on your percpective. Some might find it funny in an ironic way, or some might find it beautiful
One of THE absolute greatest acting performances of all time. This character would have gotten boring if not for Matthew's spectacular performance, subtlety, complexity and depth as an actor. The way he talks, moves, everything is so well delivered without over doing it that I believe every single word he says. He captivates and captures the inner turmoil and nihilism so perfectly, he feels it, believes in it and then says shit. It's to the point that I can never ever imagine anyone else in this role EVER. The delivery with that pitch perfect incredible voice with such charisma, depth and inflictions is just honestly commendable. The fact that we still long for more seasons with these guys also proved how often less is more. Just 8 episodes of collective 8 hours approximately. I take it as a movie or mini series. Like one of the greatest movies of all time!!!
True Detective season one is the best single season of television ever created, in my opinion. The acting, cast, and scrpit all perfectly crafted. The cinematography, too. Pure genius through and through. Rust is one of my favorite characters ever written. No show ever made me think so deeply about the human condition and life.
Copying my comment from a different video.... If you can get through my rants... I did share some things I learned.. JUST heard/found out that Matthew McConaughey said he could only full immerse himself into this role because of his faith... I believe he said it protected him... I can TOTALLY respect that! I am NOT defending a lot of bs ones like that one or a lot of the shit ones that prey on people suffering...Anyway...The heartbreaking thing about Rust at least at the beginning of his arch is that all the stuff he says IS ABSOLUTELY logical and VERY easy to succumb to... It is the last line that gives me chills though... I wish i knew it verbatim but, the light/hope however dim exists.... What a BEAUTIFULLY written show!!! HOW they fucked it up until presumably this current season 🤞!!!! I will never know! I also on rewatch am REALLY appaulled by what Maggie does!!! I GET IT.... But, she should have gone with the random guy or hell just left.... But, she absolutely devastated Rust (Fuck Marty in that reguard! He is also a complex character... If it werent for his heart and fierce love/protection of children... It would have been hard to love him.. Also DAMN did he have to cheat with like 19/20 year old chicks? It was gross! The second chick LOOKED BARELY 17!!! I AM NOT callng him ANYTHING AWFUL BTW! just wish if he cheated they would have been a touch older... But, maybe when you turn 30 all girls start looking even younger? I dont know.. no cause peope have always thought I was a lot younger... Like when I was 20 people truly thought i was a teenager... Probably because people think 40 year olds look like 50/60 year olds.... I know a few women in their 40s I SWEAR look twenty!! Sorry super weird/stupid rant over! )..ANYWAY the hookup with Maggie.... I think that was real for him! I think he had real feelings for her... Imagine having passionate sex with someone to be told IMMEDIATELY it meant NOTHING and it was JUST to hurt Marty!?!! BROKE MY HEART!!! I was cheated on HORRIBLY like the cruelest way possible and STILL I really felt for Maggie till she did that!!! The fuck!?! I supported her all the way! I could even get he sleeping with Rust (I mean COME ON... I would in a heartbeat..IF he wasnt married oh and the fact it would NEVER HAPPEN!.... Just saying Micelle Mo... Im gonna butcher her name! Is very talented and for sure has worked with some of the all time greats! Talented, Lucky, beautiful lady! ANYWAY IT SUCKS that we could have probably had like 6 years of a GREAT GREAT SHOW! Up there with Breaking Bad, Sopranos, GOT (Minus the last season... well really when they ran out of source material ... But, nope one INCREDIBLE season to absolute trash! Season three had potential but, it just didnt feel like TD... There was something magical about season 1... I truly hope season 4 can be the season 2 we deserved..... There arent very any GREAT shows anymore aside from Yellowjackets... Please if anyone knows any other good ones! Btw you know Marty's daughters? One is the blond fro The Boys the other is the "Look at the flowers" psycho from Walking dead.. just thought that was a cool bit of trivia i just stumbled across watching it again on Prime...
@@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226 The last line was, "You're thinking about it all wrong the light and the dark. First it was only darkness. Seems to me the light is winning."
"All your life, all your memories all your love all your hate, it was all the same thing. it was all the same dream. a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream of being.. A person"
I understand his view and vision but that doesnt mean im just gonna sit around doing nothing because of poinlessness. My life my have no meaning and it maybe just a cycle but it is a thing that exist. So being depressed npt indulging it doesnt benefit me even if it doesnt matter in the end
Wait till you realize anything can be rationalized, not only any of his pessimistic and narcissistic views. Then the responsibility of what is transcendently, self-consistently BETTER to rationalize, falls onto you to determine.
Honestly, I get a certain peace when I listen to Rust, because it resonates within me of lessons I've learned the hard way in life. Shit is not pretty; it's actually very fucked-up, but there is a certain lonesome "peace" to that, in the sense that you've finally figured out this world and your own solitude is what you truly can rely on. It's a hard peace, but strangely a comforting one: no need to believe in the world anymore, no need to hope, just go on with your hard wisdom enjoying a cup of tea, the stars at night and a bubbling stream nearby.
There is freedom in knowing you die alone. Every relationship, even the one with yourself, ends. There is no pressure to cling to love, because in the end you leave without it. The existence humans have was never supposed to be this. We are a tragedy.
McConaughey said himself in his book: I didnt watch it before anyone else. i watched this every sunday night on cable and for me it was the best thing ever created on television Dude really went deep for this role
Oh man elliot alderson tyler durden rust cohle three characters I absolutely love. Rick from Rick and morty is similar too.. But expecting something else.. Can u suggest?
EatOrLumby Rust is damaged and hypocritical. He is a beautiful character that can't be taken at face value. He is conflicted and has placed himself in his own personal hell. His actions conflict with his words. That is what is so amazing about True Detective, he is such a rich character. Rust isn't supposed to be looked up to or believed in. If you think Rust is cool and awesome you are missing the point of the show and probably aren't old enough to be watching it. Rust represents a broken man who has given up on himself, but cannot give up on his duty.
CptCanada Until the very last moment, that is. It is in the face of his own undoing, the true fulfillment of that duty that would, really, signify his sacrifice, that he realizes what life is, and the crack in his philosophy finally unravels it completely. That last scene, for me, sums up his character and elevates him rightfully to the status of hero. D.R.
The darker your perspective is; the more likely it's tied to a deep yearning for happiness and prosperity that was shattered by a series of deep trauma.
Never mind Heisenberg, Rusty Cole is one of the best and most Interesting characters in modern TV history. Saying the things that we all think at some point in life, but never say.
@Magnolia Trees in the Meadow at some point it’s undeniable that we have had at least one of those thoughts in our head , although there is at least one breed of people I no who just won’t give up there hope and peace bullshit
@magnolia you mean the people that use their brain for something else than daily routines and work (most people evem dont know why they do the work they rly do anyway...)
Absolutely. Cynicism is nothing but a coping mechanism. It is essentially one's psychological "armor" to insulate them from the harsh realities of life that they used to think they could change. It is the result of being disappointed with life.
"Time is a flat circle. We'll do this again." "In this universe we process time linearly - forward; but outside of our space time from what would be a fourth dimensional perspective time wouldn't exist. And from that vantage could we attain it? We see our space time would look flattened. Like a single sculpture of matter in super-position of every place it ever occupied. Our sentience is just cycling through our lives like carts on a track. See we all got what I call a life trap. This gene-deep certainty that everything will be different. You'll move to another city & meet the people who will be friends the rest of your lives. You'll fall in love & be fulfilled. Fuckin fulfillment & closure. 2 empty jars to hold this shitstorm. Nothing is ever fulfilled until the very end. Nothing is ever over. See everything outside our dimension: that's eternity. Eternity looking down on us. Now to us its a sphere but to them its a circle. In eternity, where there is no time, nothing can grow. Nothing can become. Nothing changes. So death created time to grow the things that it would kill... and you are reborn but into the same life that you've always been born into. I tell myself I bear witness but the real answer is I lack the constitution for suicide. I mean, how many times have we had this conversation, detectives? Well, who knows? When you can't remember your lives, you can't change your lives, and that is the terrible and the secret fate of all life. You're trapped... like a nightmare you keep waking up into. This is what I'm talking about. This is what I mean when I'm talkin' about time, and death, and futility. All right, there are broader ideas at work, mainly what is owed between us as a society for our mutual illusions. Fourteen straight hours of staring at DB's, these are the things ya think of. You ever done that? You look in their eyes, even in a picture, doesn't matter if they're dead or alive, you can still read 'em. You know what you see? They welcomed it... Not at first, but... right there in the last instant. It's an unmistakable relief. See, cause they were afraid, and now they saw for the very first time how easy it was to just... let go. Yeah, they saw, in that last nanosecond, they saw... what they were. You, yourself, this whole big drama, it was never more than a jerry-rig of presumption and dumb will, and you could just let go. To finally know that you didn't have to hold on so tight. To realize that all your life - you know, all your love, all your hate, all your memories, all your pain - it was all the same thing. It was all the same dream, a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream about being a person. And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it. The ontological fallacy of expecting a light at the end of the tunnel, well, that's what the preacher sells, same as a shrink. See, the preacher, he encourages your capacity for illusion. Then he tells you it's a fucking virtue. Always a buck to be had doing that, and it's such a desperate sense of entitlement, isn't it? I have seen the finale of thousands of lives, man. Young, old, each one so sure of their realness. You know that their sensory experience constituted a unique individual with purpose and meaning. So certain that they were more than biological puppet. The truth wills out, and everybody sees. Once the strings are cut, all fall down. These still bodies, so certain they were more than the sum of their urges. All the useless spinning, tired minds, collision, ignorance...this is a universe where nothing is solved. Everything we do we're going to do again.I'd consider myself a realist, alright? But in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist... I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself - we are creatures that should not exist by natural law... We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, that accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody... I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction - one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal. "
Except that In the vantage point of outer dimension higher than ours. It wont look like a flattened circle, it would still be the same 3d sphere and would not become flat. Its just the vantage point constitutes more piece added to the sphere. (3D space plus an extra) its pretty much explained in the concept of tesseract. For example a creature or a being living in a 2D world would only recognize length and width (flat circle concept) and thus an object, like a ball within a 3d (length, width' + height) that is bumped would only be perceived by the 2d creature like a flat shadow circle that is expanding and shrinking. To the 3d observer the 2d structure (length and width) are still there its just that it can perceive the ball at its 3d totality as well. Length and Width still exist but with added extra piece which was height..
Rust Cohle is definitely the most intelligent, interesting, thoughtful character in a TV series I have ever seen. The dialogue just blew me away. Perfectly played by MM. 10 out of 10.
Not really, it is just a pop culture repeat of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer. These things had been said 200- 300 years ago. Nothing new. Good characther and portrayal, of course. That's an another subject.
@@Dale_BlackburnI get where you’re coming from, but part of what I love about Rust is what these philosophical monologues say about his character. It makes him (Imo) that much more human and empathetic because it creates a conflict between his pessimistic and hopeless view of the world and his desperate attempts to make the world a better place. The way his monologues deepen and flesh out his character by communicating just how much he’s been through and how many unspeakably horrific things he’s seen (And, of course, his interplay with Marty) is what, imo, makes the character so special.
not sure I agree with Mr. Blackburn... Nietzsche never made me actually feel it, smell it, taste it the way Rust Cole did. Maybe the difference between reading music and hearing what it sounds like...? That it reached so many people, touched so many people, who would never read Nietzsche or understand it if they did, well, I think it special despite being derivative. The writing boils it down, intensifies it, and the performance stays true to the spirit of it all. Magnificently dark yet never really hopeless.
I feel that, pain in my heart while watching this. The same one that drew me into this series in season 1. I’d never felt such a connection with a person as I had with Russ. His truths are raw, agonizing and beautiful.
+Kotazo85 If a show influences you to do things that are bad for your health maybe you should stop watching. Not judging though do whatever the fuck you like. Just a bit of friendly advice.
"The pessimist who's trying to save the world." Rust Cohle is one of the greatest characters ever written and depicted on television. I just love the fact that during the show it's the case that is giving him his lifeline to still want to live in the world that has endured him the worst pain imaginable to a person. Rust and Marty characterization juxtaposes the two main lines to ones self with Rust being the soul and Marty being the heart. Nic Pizzolatto and Cary Joji Fukunaga struck gold when they produced this amazing television series.
Season 2 wasn't that bad. Try to not have such high standards for this show just because Season 1 was amazing. Both seasons accomplished the tones they wanted and they're each their own thing as a standalone anthology series. There was things that I would of wanted to change for season 2 but it's still better television than most stuff the networks show.
"Don't ever mow my lawn, alright? I LIKE mowing MY lawn." Thinking back to that one, Rust introduced order while simultaneously denying Marty the catharsis of having control. He introduced chaos. On the surface level he disrespected Marty, but in reality he was just cutting overgrown grass that anyone could have cut, even a hired hand. The ridiculousness of such a chore, a routine a man retains as a part of maintaining the illusion of modern, suburban living. On the flip side of the flat-circle, Mowing a lawn is one of the few things a man has control over, after a long week. He can come home and fail all his other house chores, up to and including pleasing his own wife, both sexually and emotionally, but that lawn gets mowed. It satifies him, it sustains him, like being able to hold a job and pay the bills. Is that really living, however, truly living?
My take: that moment was meant to tell us about Hart, not Cohle. I think the lawn mowing was innocuous. Just a decent act by Cohle. Marty lashes out because the lawn -- when mowed by another man's hand -- serves as a stark reminder that he is basically an absent husband, homemaker, and (to some extent) father. This is a topic of great self-loathing for Marty, and he usually does his best to delude himself, as the truth is very painful.
I think the lawn scene itself was more about Marty himself, rather than a big picture idea. Mowing the lawn was something that Marty did to make himself feel better about the way he lived his life. It was a contribution to the family. Marty is self-absorbed and his image of himself is deluded from reality, because he refuses to face who he actually is (the juxtaposition being Rust, who knows exactly who he is). To Marty, Rust mowing his lawn and sharing tea with his wife was an emasculation of sorts. Deep down in places he refuses to explore, Marty knows he doesn’t do right by his family. But it’s his family, he’s got the state detective badge, they should be proud, right? Rust is introducing ideas to Maggie that debilitate from the “perfect” balance of family and debauchery he has built for himself. He’s threatened by the notion of Maggie recognizing Rust as a superior man to him. It’s a point of deep insecurity because at his core he knows it’s true. And he knows Maggie is enjoying time with Rust, as opposed to him. Rather than acknowledging why Maggie might be enjoying Rust’s presence and favors, he works harder to keep his “perfect balance”, rather than actually fix the issue itself that requires that balance. It’s a metaphor to show deeply insecure Marty truly is.
You are all correct. The show is about masculinity, patriarchy, evangelical Christianity, pessimism, optimism, and a whole buncha other shit. It’s not one thing. If anything Marty is stopped by his own frailty and trapped in his performance of traditional masculinity. He’s a bad man who believes he’s good. Rust is a good man who believes all men are evil.
He judges negatively there. Death is actually the only true friend we have. It will never lie to u. Contemplation of death(not in a morbid or self pitying sense) actually gives life true perspective. It prioritizes everything. Whenever perplexed about life, big decisions and choices etc-ask in the light of death. It will never steer u wrong.
And all your life, and All your hate All your memory All your pain It was all the same dream A dream that you had Inside a locked room That dream about being A person
"And that is the terrible and secret fate of all life. You're trapped, in a nightmare you keep waking up into" So many good quotes in this show but that is one of my favorites
@@dg-qn5mi True. Also, smoking a blunt isnt going to magically instill you with philosophical concepts like these, much less enhance your ability to articulate them. Dont care if I sound like a buzz kill or if it was 'just a joke bruh', stoner philosophy is *the* worst.
I hope you are doing better. That the light is winning, like the ending said. Life is what you make of it and what you put value in. Wishing you all the best
@@niallquinn2759 I say no. It's not that I hate happiness, it's just that there is little to be happy about. When happiness abounds in my presence, I enjoy every bit of it until I sink myself again into the abyss of negativity. I'm fine with it because I believe having an occasional dose of positivity helps me appreciate those brief times and also acknowledge the purpose of negativity.
The first time I heard him talk about Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence I got this really sick feeling in my stomach, like a realization that I had forgotten something very important and just remembered it now. Ever since then I can't shake this feeling that Nietzsche was right.
@@belovedstrummer6140 The idea that everything that has happened and will happen, will happen again and again for eternity. That the universe is cyclical, meaning it is reborn over and over again, and that time will continue to repeat itself forever. Every mistake and bad thing you have experienced you will continue to experience over and over and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Essentially we are a slave to the circle of time.
@@TheUnknownDungeon It'd say it's *half* right. See, the thing about the kind of outside-time perspective that he's trying to describe, is that there's really no recurrence. It's not an endless wheel we're riding on. It's a tapestry, hanging in the void: each individual life or other existence a thread, all the threads overlaid in four dimensions, the thread of your life as a whole touching those of everything you've ever encountered or ever will. And in that perspective, it doesn't play over and over again- there's no time for it to "replay" in. It just IS. It just sits there, the four-dimensional universe in all its perfection and imperfection, timeless. Every joy and every sorrow, every brief happenstance, every pattern of devotion, every moment, all equal before eternity. What does it all mean? What do you *want* it all to mean? Meaning is attributive, a thought within the observing mind, not a property of the thing observed. Meaning is a story. Whatever beauty or terror it all holds, is only what you've given it.
My philosophy professor is pretty much that guy, just yells a lot more. I'd give anything for another course with him after this final year. His way of bringing shit up and then sticking to it and pulling a topic from it is a hard thing to do for just any normal person.
As a Buddhist having watched True Detective, it really puts a perspective on the tendency towards optimism of humans for. Humans are neither good nor evil, we just are. The pessimist is really just a former optimist who realized at some point that optimism is ridiculous. But when you dig deeper, you see how ridiculous pessimism is as well.
When you see certain Hindu Swami's, men and women who have been born in poverty, who've known nothing else. It's easier to let go of everything, to submit yourself and only yourself, not your wants or likes or dislikes. No, all of that is rejected. All you are is this machine for your intellect. This thinking thing born into a physical world. None of us could do it. Even if we gave it our 100%. We're too addicted to everything. Too attached to machine, and blood, and love. From our perspective, living like a Swami is insane. But from their perspective, there is no other way to be eternally blissful.
Microfrog Yes i agree. After years of social and systematic abuse, i really started to gravitate towards s pessimistic view of life but then i realized how arrogant, apathetic, and dangerous that point of view could be and it didn't resonate with the spiritual truth deep within my moral compass. Now, i just choose to bee neutral.
This is why intelligent people have higher rates of depression. It's so easy to become depressed and cynical if you just analyse life from a cold rational standpoint continuously. Because there's no true answer that you can come to that explains everything and it all begins to look cyclic and dark. I think to some extent you have to disable your rational brain and simply acknowledge you can't unravel it all when attempting to consider cosmic mysteries like spacetime and human nature from a philosophical standpoint. Like Rust himself says, the fact humans can contemplate their own existence is kind of their major design flaw as well as their major strength. I think when he says that he's acknowledging that he realises his own constant contemplation is what makes him so downhearted, but at the same time he's realising that his level of intellect means he can't merely ignore ruminating on life until he's depressed. It's a flat circle.
@Ed M. I hadnt thought about how disturbing this was a literature device for his character. My interpretation was that his world view was just over intellectual bullshit but yes, everything he believes is designed to cope with how extraordinarily awful he thinks the world is.
Most interesting thing about season 1 of true detective (aka the greatest single season of television in history) is the way the ending ultimately proves Rust right by adding a final delusional comforting irrational silver-lining line about how “the light’s winning”. We as the audience, the writers, directors, actors, the producers, we all couldn’t face the reality of the what Rust spoke in the earlier episodes, we needed a lie to end on to comfort us.
just like they say time is a circle, the conflict of thinking life is terrible and life is good is also a circle. many of us go in and out of these mindsets. i think all of us are confronted with one or the other at some point. i don't feel it's a delusional thought, exactly. for some people it might be and is, but there's others where it's not accurate. collectively there is a lot of good things happening and bad things happening. when you look at all of history, i would take the position that the light is winning. but you know, it is a war, a circle, and that means there'll be good and bad successes for as long as we're here all i know is i've spent too long in the pessimistic line of thought and eventually i was exhausted with it. those thoughts still rear their heads but it's nice to not be so miserable all the time
Why do you feel like your life needs to have an objective meaning.. for it to have a meaning? Of course nothing matters. The universe is going to end at some point, and the sum of our lives will have meant nothing (unless we go reversing entropy, then we're the most important things in the goddamn universe) but that doesn't mean life means nothing. Meaning is a process, a journey. The destination is irrelevant.
***** Who said anything about objective meaning? I'd say the bottom line is that sentience isn't especially good. I'd argue that it's hard to logically defend bringing a sentient being into the world, given what we know of the world. It's not that there's not any purpose, per se, but that there's no real point, and additionally, there's no guarantee that the being's existence won't be mostly miserable. Even misery is relative, of course, but then, there you go.
Matt in the Crown Sentience is the ONLY good. Misery comes from an inability to fulfill your desire for meaning in your life, so this whole issue is about meaning. And I say that life has meaning, even if it will have meant nothing.
+Honest Op That's the thing, there is no point to anything; we give meaning to live on through delusions we hold in our heads in order to feel a sense of purpose and identity, whether it be through ambitions, religion etc. whereas from a pessimist point of view, we are biologically designed to die. It actually makes suicide seem more natural if you think about it lol Futility at its finest "it's all just one big ghetto man"
+Honest Op but then again, looking at life from an objective standpoint, I would say the only real tangible thing is family; which makes sense as it fits the role of reproduction that we as humans are biologically designed to do.
His performance is amazing, one of his best. Any fellow writers out there? Anyone realizing that his words are not his own? Pizzolato wrote all that and it was a executed in outstanding fashion. This is a team sport and the whole crew, especially and the lighting and sound crew, did a superb job. Nothing but respect. If you don‘t know what Im talking about, watch the credits after the episodes.
This first season was an absolute masterpiece. It knocked me out.
Yup 1st season was epic. Second season had terrible casting for the lead roles besides Rachel Mcadams who was excellent.
***** Totally agreed.
Luís Almeida me too. Watched the whole thing straight through. Fucking amazing.
It's true that much of this was plagiarized, finding this out caused me to read "The Conspiracy Against the Human Race" by Ligotti. It sounds like an exaggeration, but that book really fucked with me and put me in a weird head space for close to two months. I'd advise not to read it if you're mentally ill or suffering from depression, it has some compelling ideas about the futility of purpose in human endeavor, and the ways we ignore this in our day to day life. Brilliant book.
You will experience this again --- time is a flat circle
This is what you get when you set the honesty level to 100 percent.
TARS?
not the honesty level but the intelligence level
Rishujeet Rai nah , not just honesty
This is what you get when you live your life as an absolute real human being
Well said.
Gurmeet Singh from interstellar
"You'll do this again. Time is a flat circle."
He says, as I watch this season for the 4th time.
4th time? Those are rookie numbers, man, gotta bump those numbers up 😂
just four, shit, I watched it 4 times the week after heart surgery.
@@Uncle_Neil @Cody Lakin you guys are stuck in Carcosa 😂😂
Can you explain what he means
"Listen nietzsche shut the fuck up."
Deep inside every pessimist is a dissapointed optimist.
the only reason someone would hate this world is that they're desperately in love with the experience of being alive
El Tom care to explain? Fear of letting go?
@@user-ei3qr9un9x it's telling a female friend that she is fat and that she has to get her ass on working out. Not out of malicious purposes, but on the contrary - because you do care. Where fake friends will go with "you are beautiful as you are, darling" bullshit for variety of reasons - from not giving a shit about anyone, to have someone uglier around which will make them look even better.
T. Va. Because it’s uncomfortable for people to be real, there’s a line between being a good friend and being an ass but I believe as long as it’s done in private and not done in a way to embarrass them then it’s ok
@@markjohn9309 you can be an ass and a good friend. Actions speak better than words. It's just today you have to fucking read half a vocabulary for all the variety of meanings of each word you are utilizing in formulating your speech to not, god forbid someone's twisted self-absorption masqueraded as sensitivity.
Lies are sweet, honesty tastes bitter.
That's beside that it was just a blunt example which was not meant being taking at a face value, but more like - pointing a direction. Which is IRONICALLY reinforces my point.
And considering all of the above. How do you even tell someone who has weight problems that they have to do something about it without offending them? I tell you how - you fucking can't. It WILL HURT.
It's like if tomorrow everyone will be unable to tell anything but truth (Liar, Liar), then - the next day will be a post-apocalypse. Not because honesty is bad, but because everything is so twisted and rotten.
Generally, this much introspection can disable a person from his normal functions. Life requires being numb to the truth to operate. Being this sober about life is debilitating.
Generally, yes. But that is solely because of most people's stupidity and weakness.
Absolutely even entertaining these thoughts can deliver an instant dose of nihilistic/existential depression. Everyone around you is living a lie, the society you inhabit is a lie, religion is a lie. There is nothing.
Man you people are easily swayed...
+Krylo22 If you can't articulate an argument, just walk away and watch more cat videos, son.
+US Marine Rifleman Its liberating to be honest... makes me see the truth in situations.
For me, in my opinion, the best McConaughey performance.
He's a great actor. In the top 10 of greatest modern actors I'd say. Daniel Day Lewis is # 1, followed by Gary Oldman and a few others I can't bother to think of right now.
Yes, one of the greatest contemporary actors for sure.
He was amazing in dallas buyers club
Idk, I really liked his Lincoln ads
@@paulden3158 well said
I rewatched this series while i was depressed as f**k. I can honestly say True Detective saved my life. To see a character so destroyed and so collapsed in life like Cole been able to say "the light is winning". Really gave me hope to believe in the future again. God bless the people who make this possible.
but what's bad about being a realist pessimist? I find more comfort living like that then to have expectations of good things happening and then be disappointed when it doesn't.
@@The_Tortoise_and_the_HareYou're voluntarily, deliberately dooming yourself and you're not even aware of it
I believe that this has been Matthew's best performance to date. I'm glad he decided to stop the romcoms temporarily, because he is a remarkable actor.
This is pure talent
Turned down 10/15 mill in offers for romcoms to go in this different direction
It’s one of the best television characters ever created
Meh😂
Oh you read that piece too?
Season 1 was a work of art. Never to be repeated.
Season 1 was a work of art. Never to be repeated.
I wouldn’t be so sure pilgrim. Time is a flat circle.
@@joshuaellison6356 I'm so done talking to you like a man.
Dr. nipples I don’t remember us talking in the first place Doc?
@@joshuaellison6356 maybe you should open up your pineal gland, and remember?
Personal opinions aside, I think It's really great that a mainstream tv-show is presenting us with this kind of thought-process. Would never have happened just 10 years ago.
***** did u mean schopenhauer :D
***** Twin Peaks is another question entirely. Hardly anything like this show. This show is deeply human. Lynch has never made anything this human in his career, he's concerned with other things and concepts. D.R.
Rebphoenix This is the show the normal audience needs to see.
+Rebphoenix Have you never seen The Wire?
Vena Retro Not yet buddy, on my to-watch list though
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know- Ernest Hemingway
jesse black my friend once said 'sometimes I wish I was stupid, that way I'd know what'd be like to be happy for once'. He was so right
@@stevebn1071 Sadly dumb people like you can also be angry.
@@stevebn1071 Intelligent people is not the same as 'intellectuals' or indeed intellectuals.
Ada Vanja yeah. Wisdom from God is all that matters. Everything else is chasing your tail shit
@@stevebn1071 which god though?
When Cohle says about how you think moving to a new city and thinking you'll meet all these incredible people and be fulfilled resonates so much. I find myself thinking that sometimes, sell myself a story that must be true. God damn, the writing in the first series is just breathtaking
He was so fucking right
Amazing writing and it hits home and close
Can't escape yourself, no matter how far you run
I found myself in this two times. I moved out from a small town in my country to a big city, then l left to foreign country. I also spent plenty of time travelling. Clouded glasses fall down and you start seeing that people pretty much live the same everywhere in a planet (ofc cultural differences, incomes people get.. different). Ppl try to thrive, feed their families, survive.
Nothing is ever over
never watch this on a Monday morning right before going into your daily routine!
makes you think, huh?
Nope, just makes it harder for the rest of the week.
Fuck...Just did that
Nihilism ruins lives!
Nope! I watch this just before making sweet, sweet love to the wife. She still isn't pregnant.
"Surely this is all for me... me, me, me, I, I, I... I'm so fuckin' important... I'm so fuckin' important, right?... Fuck you!"
Favorite part. :)
Mine too.
+Harold Davidson *2:40*
+HorriblyImmature And why you smile?
Absolutely son
+Harold Davidson Your all going to hell... Mislead fools..
I love the fact that he drinks during his interview and it makes everything he says inadmissible in court😂
I legit didn't realize that was his intention until like my third or fourth time rewatching the series.
They allowed him to get his process out...
It's not his intention... he did nothing illegal. He's not hiding anything. Seriously????
@@Garfields-rt3ef ...are you confused by what inadmissible means? The investigators are trying to catch Rust admitting to something.
Even if he DID, which he didn't, they wouldn't actually be able to use it in court being having alcohol in your system nullifies your statements from being used in legal proceedings.
That was clearly his intention with drinking during the interview. Does that make it easier for you?
@@Garfields-rt3efhe helped cover up the murder of an arrested suspect man cmon
God, these quotes hit harder and harder every year I get older. Wow phenomenal writing and phenomenal acting.
acting..writing... stories.. .... us.
Let’s see Paul Allen’s quotes
I swear 😭😭💀
"I lack the constitution for suicide"
@Kurt Rulida doesn't have the balls to kill him self
@@Morg8685 Well put.
I relate to this. Wanting to be dead, but not wanting to die. Suicide is hardwired into us to be avoided. He understands this and doesn't think less of himself for it.
Afraid to die, afraid of living, what a way to exist
Morg8685 committing suicide doesn’t take balls, it’s an easy way out in most cases but not all
He swallowed the whole bottle of red pills
Blackpilled
Blackpilled, you mean. Redpilled neocons find their mEaNiNg in gOd
@@randyrogers1853 you realize one can in fact be Catholic and not be a neocon. Hell to be Christian one swallows multiple blackpille in addition to white pills. You underestimate the depth of faith because you think Nietzsche is edgier. If one assumes God then Nietzsche is a misguided tragic fool, if one assumes no God, a tragic prophet. However I have seen enough that I cannot deny Christ.
@@randyrogers1853 neocon prots are by definition bluepilled. TradCons and Reactionaries are generally Orthos or Caths
@@ep_med7822 I actually don't like Nietzsche, nice try with the labelling though. Please highlight the sentence where I claimed that all neocons are Christian, and that all Christian's are neocons. In fact, please show me where I even specified "Christian."
You will come here to listen this again and again and again and forever.
So far it's been true, what u said. Every once in awhile I do. Hah
No I dont...I found one of those sites that rip Audio from UA-cam vids and now I have this in my music list forever.
And I have the dvd set lol
i saw this show 10 years ago, and yet i keep finding myself coming back to season 1. again, and again, and again, and again.
Forever
the way rust explains time outside of this dimension is exactly what happens in interstellar. crazy.
The idea of time being a circle is portrayed in a similar manner in Arrival.
Coincidentally 2 of my absolute favorite movies :)
The creepiest part of his description is when he very vaguely glosses over the idea of sentient beings living outside time observing us. "But to *them*...it's a circle". Who is them? Who is he referring to? How did he come about that idea?
Scary stuff
@@1headphoneguyit's just reference to Lovecraft.
when he says it hes straighten out the can ppl he cut out like he was giving reference point . like they where 2d but where in 3d i guess? @@1headphoneguy
Considering that they were both in production at the same time and were both released in the same year, it’s not unlikely that they had some mutual influence.
True detective season 1 will change the way you look at life
Worked in my case. And I don't even know, whether it's good or not.
Real shit
Just discovered it but was already there.
@@firstnamett4656 Which is why they are called IDEAologies, not humanologies.
As soon as the second live human is put in any equasion our atypical nature flaws the original process. It probably is perfect for at least one of us.
I am worried that it didn't change anything in my case. My girlfriend told me Rust reminds her of me. 🤷♂️
I felt like almost everything he said came from my brain.. Spooky.
"I don't wanna know anything anymore" - Perfectly sums up my life
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@TheGooners11 The truth isn't necessarily depressin, it depends on your percpective. Some might find it funny in an ironic way, or some might find it beautiful
@@beigestallion2929 well, then you don't know cuz the truth ain't beautiful
@@montsalveri487 Sure, in your perspective
Indeed!
One of THE absolute greatest acting performances of all time. This character would have gotten boring if not for Matthew's spectacular performance, subtlety, complexity and depth as an actor. The way he talks, moves, everything is so well delivered without over doing it that I believe every single word he says. He captivates and captures the inner turmoil and nihilism so perfectly, he feels it, believes in it and then says shit. It's to the point that I can never ever imagine anyone else in this role EVER. The delivery with that pitch perfect incredible voice with such charisma, depth and inflictions is just honestly commendable. The fact that we still long for more seasons with these guys also proved how often less is more. Just 8 episodes of collective 8 hours approximately. I take it as a movie or mini series. Like one of the greatest movies of all time!!!
And the best part is he is totally opposite and not even close to th character in real life
Pity they couldn't end it properly.
Lol it feels like they made him construct a diorama of beer people to keep the audiences attention
@@atomatopia1 "Beer" people can't have depth and melancholy???
@@timmywright7099Wdym?
True Detective season one is the best single season of television ever created, in my opinion. The acting, cast, and scrpit all perfectly crafted. The cinematography, too. Pure genius through and through. Rust is one of my favorite characters ever written. No show ever made me think so deeply about the human condition and life.
The Fargo series very well done too, particularly the first season. On par with True Detective imo.
Both were good, but the best is homeland
@@willowwisp1000 Homeland was excellent.
Copying my comment from a different video.... If you can get through my rants... I did share some things I learned..
JUST heard/found out that Matthew McConaughey said he could only full immerse himself into this role because of his faith... I believe he said it protected him... I can TOTALLY respect that! I am NOT defending a lot of bs ones like that one or a lot of the shit ones that prey on people suffering...Anyway...The heartbreaking thing about Rust at least at the beginning of his arch is that all the stuff he says IS ABSOLUTELY logical and VERY easy to succumb to... It is the last line that gives me chills though... I wish i knew it verbatim but, the light/hope however dim exists.... What a BEAUTIFULLY written show!!! HOW they fucked it up until presumably this current season 🤞!!!! I will never know! I also on rewatch am REALLY appaulled by what Maggie does!!! I GET IT.... But, she should have gone with the random guy or hell just left.... But, she absolutely devastated Rust (Fuck Marty in that reguard! He is also a complex character... If it werent for his heart and fierce love/protection of children... It would have been hard to love him.. Also DAMN did he have to cheat with like 19/20 year old chicks? It was gross! The second chick LOOKED BARELY 17!!! I AM NOT callng him ANYTHING AWFUL BTW! just wish if he cheated they would have been a touch older... But, maybe when you turn 30 all girls start looking even younger? I dont know.. no cause peope have always thought I was a lot younger... Like when I was 20 people truly thought i was a teenager... Probably because people think 40 year olds look like 50/60 year olds.... I know a few women in their 40s I SWEAR look twenty!! Sorry super weird/stupid rant over! )..ANYWAY the hookup with Maggie.... I think that was real for him! I think he had real feelings for her... Imagine having passionate sex with someone to be told IMMEDIATELY it meant NOTHING and it was JUST to hurt Marty!?!! BROKE MY HEART!!! I was cheated on HORRIBLY like the cruelest way possible and STILL I really felt for Maggie till she did that!!! The fuck!?! I supported her all the way! I could even get he sleeping with Rust (I mean COME ON... I would in a heartbeat..IF he wasnt married oh and the fact it would NEVER HAPPEN!.... Just saying Micelle Mo... Im gonna butcher her name! Is very talented and for sure has worked with some of the all time greats! Talented, Lucky, beautiful lady! ANYWAY IT SUCKS that we could have probably had like 6 years of a GREAT GREAT SHOW! Up there with Breaking Bad, Sopranos, GOT (Minus the last season... well really when they ran out of source material ... But, nope one INCREDIBLE season to absolute trash! Season three had potential but, it just didnt feel like TD... There was something magical about season 1... I truly hope season 4 can be the season 2 we deserved..... There arent very any GREAT shows anymore aside from Yellowjackets... Please if anyone knows any other good ones!
Btw you know Marty's daughters? One is the blond fro The Boys the other is the "Look at the flowers" psycho from Walking dead.. just thought that was a cool bit of trivia i just stumbled across watching it again on Prime...
@@dreznoryorkekeenanbuckley2226 The last line was, "You're thinking about it all wrong the light and the dark. First it was only darkness. Seems to me the light is winning."
Life got pretty rough after TARS broke down
Which episode does his long speech/rant/verbal gem occur in?
@@youknowwhoiam2771 i watched it. RIGHT, it's in ALL the episodes lol. Great show!
LMFAO chill bro
@@keller8100gmail you didnt get his joke ......
No...
It's necessary.
"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill." Damn.
Could you explain that? Bit difficult to comprehend. Thanks.
@@decodingcap9965 time doesnt exist, death does.
@@StudioSerious1 Gotcha! That's very true indeed. Thanks Nicky.
@@StudioSerious1 Both exist.
@@somerandomarmydude we created time because without it chaos would reign all over the world. We need time, but in fact it doesnt exist.
"All your life,
all your memories all your love all your hate,
it was all the same thing.
it was all the same dream.
a dream that you had inside a locked room,
a dream of being..
A person"
And like many dreams.......there's a monster at the end of it.
@@shanewalsh620
Wow
Good stuff
Some - *body*
I hope you understands who is the monster…
When I'm having a bad day, I listen to this and then I feel better.
Criminally underrated comment
I’m having one of those days right now, and here I am again, listening to these videos
Same
The most disturbing part is he actually has a point.....
It isn't disturbing... It's honest and that makes people uncomfortable
I understand his view and vision but that doesnt mean im just gonna sit around doing nothing because of poinlessness. My life my have no meaning and it maybe just a cycle but it is a thing that exist. So being depressed npt indulging it doesnt benefit me even if it doesnt matter in the end
He's emotionally disabled.
Wait till you realize anything can be rationalized, not only any of his pessimistic and narcissistic views. Then the responsibility of what is transcendently, self-consistently BETTER to rationalize, falls onto you to determine.
That's what good writing is
I imagine him driving a Lincoln saying all of this
He makes me want to buy a Lincoln tbh lol
I THIK IT WAS A "VIC"
Musty Crustard 'I've been dreaming about being a person for way longer than I've been a person.'
lol, that should be written, on a hallmark card! No. Bad Megan. It should be Marked Down A Hall. True Story.
@@zackburke5459 haha that's fucking hilarious
Honestly, I get a certain peace when I listen to Rust, because it resonates within me of lessons I've learned the hard way in life. Shit is not pretty; it's actually very fucked-up, but there is a certain lonesome "peace" to that, in the sense that you've finally figured out this world and your own solitude is what you truly can rely on. It's a hard peace, but strangely a comforting one: no need to believe in the world anymore, no need to hope, just go on with your hard wisdom enjoying a cup of tea, the stars at night and a bubbling stream nearby.
Amen brother. I resonate with this and rust lifestyle.
There is freedom in knowing you die alone. Every relationship, even the one with yourself, ends. There is no pressure to cling to love, because in the end you leave without it. The existence humans have was never supposed to be this. We are a tragedy.
@@samdp42 🙏
@@samdp42 very true...the only solace a human can really know, is that the rest are alone too.
There is wisdom in seeing the glass half empty
McConaughey said himself in his book: I didnt watch it before anyone else. i watched this every sunday night on cable and for me it was the best thing ever created on television
Dude really went deep for this role
This is the most relatable character I’ve seen in a looooooooong time.
Watch Mr. Robot.
what other relatable characters have you known?
@@thededman5054 Tyler durden from fight club
Influence is a strong thing.
Oh man elliot alderson tyler durden rust cohle three characters I absolutely love. Rick from Rick and morty is similar too.. But expecting something else.. Can u suggest?
"The real answer is that it's obviously my programming...and I lack the constitution for suicide" hilarious, lmao
Sounds like his ptsd talking to me
Funny? Its prophetically true.
EatOrLumby it was funny at the time I watched the episode
EatOrLumby Rust is damaged and hypocritical. He is a beautiful character that can't be taken at face value. He is conflicted and has placed himself in his own personal hell. His actions conflict with his words. That is what is so amazing about True Detective, he is such a rich character. Rust isn't supposed to be looked up to or believed in. If you think Rust is cool and awesome you are missing the point of the show and probably aren't old enough to be watching it. Rust represents a broken man who has given up on himself, but cannot give up on his duty.
CptCanada Until the very last moment, that is. It is in the face of his own undoing, the true fulfillment of that duty that would, really, signify his sacrifice, that he realizes what life is, and the crack in his philosophy finally unravels it completely. That last scene, for me, sums up his character and elevates him rightfully to the status of hero. D.R.
Death created time, to grow everything that it would kill. Love that line.
Why would it grow things just to kill ‘em?
Because otherwise it could not exist itself...
@@bob11666 farmers do it
@@guynoir5968 for nutrients
@@Saxtrup that’s such a dumb quote ngl. Couldn’t you just say that about anything? Ice skates created hockey so that ice skates would be purchased
The darker your perspective is; the more likely it's tied to a deep yearning for happiness and prosperity that was shattered by a series of deep trauma.
There is no dark. There just is.
Philosophical pessimism is a function of wisdom and not individual misfortune. Though he does come across as sulky throughout the show.
Never mind Heisenberg, Rusty Cole is one of the best and most Interesting characters in modern TV history. Saying the things that we all think at some point in life, but never say.
@Magnolia Trees in the Meadow at some point it’s undeniable that we have had at least one of those thoughts in our head , although there is at least one breed of people I no who just won’t give up there hope and peace bullshit
@magnolia you mean the people that use their brain for something else than daily routines and work (most people evem dont know why they do the work they rly do anyway...)
We say it all them time, check who you hang out with, if they dont say these things once in a while, mistrust
I feel and think that way. I think alot of ppl eventually do. You have to right?
You are highly deluded if you think even a majority of people think about this.
Some say if you scratch a cynic you will find a broken idealist. ~George Carlin.
Absolutely. Cynicism is nothing but a coping mechanism. It is essentially one's psychological "armor" to insulate them from the harsh realities of life that they used to think they could change. It is the result of being disappointed with life.
I think you find some bad ideals
@@simonbailey2040 Not really it's just a quote.
spoken by a true cynic
@@simonbailey2040 Everyone thinks everything Carlin said was so profound it wasn't. It was a easy way out.
"Time is a flat circle. We'll do this again."
"In this universe we process time linearly - forward; but outside of our space time from what would be a fourth dimensional perspective time wouldn't exist. And from that vantage could we attain it? We see our space time would look flattened. Like a single sculpture of matter in super-position of every place it ever occupied. Our sentience is just cycling through our lives like carts on a track. See we all got what I call a life trap. This gene-deep certainty that everything will be different. You'll move to another city & meet the people who will be friends the rest of your lives. You'll fall in love & be fulfilled. Fuckin fulfillment & closure. 2 empty jars to hold this shitstorm. Nothing is ever fulfilled until the very end. Nothing is ever over. See everything outside our dimension: that's eternity. Eternity looking down on us. Now to us its a sphere but to them its a circle. In eternity, where there is no time, nothing can grow. Nothing can become. Nothing changes. So death created time to grow the things that it would kill... and you are reborn but into the same life that you've always been born into. I tell myself I bear witness but the real answer is I lack the constitution for suicide. I mean, how many times have we had this conversation, detectives? Well, who knows? When you can't remember your lives, you can't change your lives, and that is the terrible and the secret fate of all life. You're trapped... like a nightmare you keep waking up into. This is what I'm talking about. This is what I mean when I'm talkin' about time, and death, and futility. All right, there are broader ideas at work, mainly what is owed between us as a society for our mutual illusions. Fourteen straight hours of staring at DB's, these are the things ya think of. You ever done that? You look in their eyes, even in a picture, doesn't matter if they're dead or alive, you can still read 'em. You know what you see? They welcomed it... Not at first, but... right there in the last instant. It's an unmistakable relief. See, cause they were afraid, and now they saw for the very first time how easy it was to just... let go. Yeah, they saw, in that last nanosecond, they saw... what they were. You, yourself, this whole big drama, it was never more than a jerry-rig of presumption and dumb will, and you could just let go. To finally know that you didn't have to hold on so tight. To realize that all your life - you know, all your love, all your hate, all your memories, all your pain - it was all the same thing. It was all the same dream, a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream about being a person. And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it. The ontological fallacy of expecting a light at the end of the tunnel, well, that's what the preacher sells, same as a shrink. See, the preacher, he encourages your capacity for illusion. Then he tells you it's a fucking virtue. Always a buck to be had doing that, and it's such a desperate sense of entitlement, isn't it? I have seen the finale of thousands of lives, man. Young, old, each one so sure of their realness. You know that their sensory experience constituted a unique individual with purpose and meaning. So certain that they were more than biological puppet. The truth wills out, and everybody sees. Once the strings are cut, all fall down. These still bodies, so certain they were more than the sum of their urges. All the useless spinning, tired minds, collision, ignorance...this is a universe where nothing is solved. Everything we do we're going to do again.I'd consider myself a realist, alright? But in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist... I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself - we are creatures that should not exist by natural law... We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, that accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody... I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction - one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal. "
Thanks for transcribing that for us bub 🤘🏻
I appreciate the way you pieced together those conversational snippets into one coherent piece. Saved.
Facts
Except that In the vantage point of outer dimension higher than ours. It wont look like a flattened circle, it would still be the same 3d sphere and would not become flat. Its just the vantage point constitutes more piece added to the sphere. (3D space plus an extra) its pretty much explained in the concept of tesseract. For example a creature or a being living in a 2D world would only recognize length and width (flat circle concept) and thus an object, like a ball within a 3d (length, width' + height) that is bumped would only be perceived by the 2d creature like a flat shadow circle that is expanding and shrinking. To the 3d observer the 2d structure (length and width) are still there its just that it can perceive the ball at its 3d totality as well. Length and Width still exist but with added extra piece which was height..
Thank you for your effort....It is greatly appreciated... Calgary Canada
Rust Cohle is definitely the most intelligent, interesting, thoughtful character in a TV series I have ever seen. The dialogue just blew me away. Perfectly played by MM. 10 out of 10.
Not really, it is just a pop culture repeat of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer. These things had been said 200- 300 years ago. Nothing new. Good characther and portrayal, of course. That's an another subject.
@@Dale_BlackburnI get where you’re coming from, but part of what I love about Rust is what these philosophical monologues say about his character. It makes him (Imo) that much more human and empathetic because it creates a conflict between his pessimistic and hopeless view of the world and his desperate attempts to make the world a better place. The way his monologues deepen and flesh out his character by communicating just how much he’s been through and how many unspeakably horrific things he’s seen (And, of course, his interplay with Marty) is what, imo, makes the character so special.
not sure I agree with Mr. Blackburn... Nietzsche never made me actually feel it, smell it, taste it the way Rust Cole did. Maybe the difference between reading music and hearing what it sounds like...? That it reached so many people, touched so many people, who would never read Nietzsche or understand it if they did, well, I think it special despite being derivative. The writing boils it down, intensifies it, and the performance stays true to the spirit of it all. Magnificently dark yet never really hopeless.
I have no idea why I keep revisiting this again, and again, and again...
because its masterpiece
because time is a flat circle.
your gonna make this comment again and again and again and I am going to repy to it again and again and again.
Grounding day!
Because it's a spoon of nice and clear truth that you don't get that often in life
I listen to this to prep myself to play dark souls.
lolled so hard
That boss that keeps fucking you is gonna be in that room again... and again... and again... forever...
i love you for this comment. this is definitive prep work to play a souls game!
I never link the fire. I always let it go dark lol.
lmao
I feel that, pain in my heart while watching this. The same one that drew me into this series in season 1. I’d never felt such a connection with a person as I had with Russ. His truths are raw, agonizing and beautiful.
Thanks Matthew Mcconaughey for delivering the best acting I have ever seen.
People who have been through existential crisis would feel these speeches
Brave Heart yep
So pretty much everyone, lol
I went through psychosis and I understand what he’s taking about
"Through"? You mean that you can get through it and still live to read comments on youtube?
Others are dumb enough to see the truth...
"Well that sounds, god fucking awful Rust."
i died! 0:25
+Dota 2 Gag damn i almost started drinking and smoking becose of this show. Even my accent got a little texan hehe
+Kotazo85 If a show influences you to do things that are bad for your health maybe you should stop watching. Not judging though do whatever the fuck you like. Just a bit of friendly advice.
Smokey Mcsmoke
I better don't watch Bill maher, i might become a cynical democrat with a joint in one hand and a beer on the other.
+Kotazo85 Hold on now let's not say something we're gonna regret. Stewie from Family guy.
Moetassim Ayoub
Nothing to regret. i hate republicans and most certainly go wash my car than going to some church
I've seen this video 14 times... I guess I'll do this over and over again....and again, and again forever😊😊.
Beautiful and amazing. I wrote a masters thesis on Nietzsche but everytime I watch this scene I learn something new. Just stunning.
Matthew Mcconaughey is so good in this, delivers lines like its extemporaneous.
Nice 8 point word. Props
don't feel threatened just because you have to look words up.
Patrick Butler What the fuck dude.
facetubemyassplug
sorry, don't play well w others..
fucks sake Patrick, you had to go and ruin it!
"to finally know that you didn't have to hold on so tight" goddamn what a masterpiece this season was
This video has become more and more relevant to me and the way I view things with every passing year...
A lot of people cannot digest the absolute reality...which is pretty uncertain and miserable...
They believe their lives have meaning...
That’s should worry you, mister
@@anuraag7075 there is no evidence to believe this is more true than anything else. But I guess this comment section belongs to the edgelords
its 2020 and i still dreaming of rust cohle
"The pessimist who's trying to save the world." Rust Cohle is one of the greatest characters ever written and depicted on television. I just love the fact that during the show it's the case that is giving him his lifeline to still want to live in the world that has endured him the worst pain imaginable to a person. Rust and Marty characterization juxtaposes the two main lines to ones self with Rust being the soul and Marty being the heart. Nic Pizzolatto and Cary Joji Fukunaga struck gold when they produced this amazing television series.
Chris Martinez just a shame season 2 was a bag of shit,but then again how can you beat season 1.for me it's the best show ive seen.
Season 2 wasn't that bad. Try to not have such high standards for this show just because Season 1 was amazing. Both seasons accomplished the tones they wanted and they're each their own thing as a standalone anthology series. There was things that I would of wanted to change for season 2 but it's still better television than most stuff the networks show.
fair comment,let's see where they go from hear..
Exactly! I'm hoping they bring back Cary Fukunaga on the helm.
+Artic Spartan Yeah try to remember not everything is white and black.
THATS WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THEM HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS MAN... I KEEP GETTING OLDER, LIFE IS MEANINGLESS.
390 horsepower, we're talkin' some FUCKIN' MUSCLE
@@ncten6945 I've seen that engine...right next to the sea monkeys
It’s like pessimism and nihilism had a three way with cynicism then had a baby together and this was the result.
Right. And Antinatalism.
McConaughlism
In other words, real life.
There's a real life guy like this called Gary Inmendham.
Rather Ligottian, of course...
"Don't ever mow my lawn, alright? I LIKE mowing MY lawn."
Thinking back to that one, Rust introduced order while simultaneously denying Marty the catharsis of having control. He introduced chaos. On the surface level he disrespected Marty, but in reality he was just cutting overgrown grass that anyone could have cut, even a hired hand. The ridiculousness of such a chore, a routine a man retains as a part of maintaining the illusion of modern, suburban living.
On the flip side of the flat-circle, Mowing a lawn is one of the few things a man has control over, after a long week. He can come home and fail all his other house chores, up to and including pleasing his own wife, both sexually and emotionally, but that lawn gets mowed. It satifies him, it sustains him, like being able to hold a job and pay the bills. Is that really living, however, truly living?
My take: that moment was meant to tell us about Hart, not Cohle. I think the lawn mowing was innocuous. Just a decent act by Cohle.
Marty lashes out because the lawn -- when mowed by another man's hand -- serves as a stark reminder that he is basically an absent husband, homemaker, and (to some extent) father. This is a topic of great self-loathing for Marty, and he usually does his best to delude himself, as the truth is very painful.
@@Supwisebs it was clearly disrespectful, plus the fact he was in Marty’s home talking to his wife when he wasn’t there..
Damn you
I think the lawn scene itself was more about Marty himself, rather than a big picture idea.
Mowing the lawn was something that Marty did to make himself feel better about the way he lived his life. It was a contribution to the family. Marty is self-absorbed and his image of himself is deluded from reality, because he refuses to face who he actually is (the juxtaposition being Rust, who knows exactly who he is).
To Marty, Rust mowing his lawn and sharing tea with his wife was an emasculation of sorts. Deep down in places he refuses to explore, Marty knows he doesn’t do right by his family. But it’s his family, he’s got the state detective badge, they should be proud, right?
Rust is introducing ideas to Maggie that debilitate from the “perfect” balance of family and debauchery he has built for himself. He’s threatened by the notion of Maggie recognizing Rust as a superior man to him. It’s a point of deep insecurity because at his core he knows it’s true. And he knows Maggie is enjoying time with Rust, as opposed to him.
Rather than acknowledging why Maggie might be enjoying Rust’s presence and favors, he works harder to keep his “perfect balance”, rather than actually fix the issue itself that requires that balance. It’s a metaphor to show deeply insecure Marty truly is.
You are all correct. The show is about masculinity, patriarchy, evangelical Christianity, pessimism, optimism, and a whole buncha other shit. It’s not one thing. If anything Marty is stopped by his own frailty and trapped in his performance of traditional masculinity. He’s a bad man who believes he’s good. Rust is a good man who believes all men are evil.
The fact that Kevin Spacey won best TV series actor that year kills me
spacey deserved it much more
Right? Lunacy..
@@PretentiousStuff you are a nutbag
ТурбоТОП you’re crazy as all fuck
Frank was a fantastic character but Rust was also amazing, close call tbh.
"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill"
This made me laugh, what a way to see the world
He said it as I read your post. Spooky. Great line
Lol same he said it as I read what you wrote...it's all cyclical
Seems accurate.
He judges negatively there. Death is actually the only true friend we have. It will never lie to u. Contemplation of death(not in a morbid or self pitying sense) actually gives life true perspective. It prioritizes everything. Whenever perplexed about life, big decisions and choices etc-ask in the light of death. It will never steer u wrong.
Darrell Smoke Maven Simeon thats nature.
Animals, seasons, spinning in the universe.
But humans long broke out.
"I'm bad at parties" followed by "I think human consciousness is a mistake" was way too comical
This is dripping with misery and depression and I love every second of it.
You’ll read these comments again....Over and over again
Forever...
Noooooooooooooooooo.gif
time is a flat circle
🤣😂🤣😂👍
........ and again
And all your life, and
All your hate
All your memory
All your pain
It was all the same dream
A dream that you had
Inside a locked room
That dream about being
A person
And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it.
Why do people cut that part out.
they haven't found the monster inside of themselves ... yet.
Eight Virtues it's almost like Some Edgar Allen Poe shit....Epic!
Just a match of "Roy" XD
edit: reference below
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@@HistorianTrevi Grass... tastes bad
Cohle is a very smart very tortured man. And it’s played to perfection
Everything has an end, only the sausage has two ends.
B Grigoroff this is gold
😂
Lol
“So Death created Time to Grow the things that it would Kill”
Book of Cohle 8:40
If you stare too long into the abyss the abyss stares into you
Bob's and vagene watches not do mainstream tv shows philosophy video , salute
Richard James oh tough guy has entered the chat
The Abyss would tell Rust to chill the hell out.
Dark..
@@matthew1882 lol
"And that is the terrible and secret fate of all life. You're trapped, in a nightmare you keep waking up into"
So many good quotes in this show but that is one of my favorites
That moment when you go to like a video and realize you liked it years ago. Time really is a flat circle.
One of my favourite characters of all time.
This show is responsible for the best single take ever.
Yes!
@k brown I think it's episode 4 or 5 if I remember correctly. Just search it, it's on here.
@k brown Yeh I've watched season 1 about 4 times now, nothing else like it. 👍
I think its the bikers at the crack house scene
false. the health inspector episode from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is the best single take ever. S10 E4
Death created time to grow the things that it would kill.
Absolutely brilliant 8:41 ❤
Look up 'ah pook is here' by William S Burroughs. That's where the line originated
Every night I listen to this to fall asleep, so quickly.
HBO needs to make a spinoff of True Detective called Rust, just about Rust.
If that happens than it won't be considered as a masterpiece anymore...
agree
Undercover in the biker gang, that'd be incredible
Rust and Marty complement each other
As much as I love his character I think it’s better to quit while you’re ahead.
I promise I won’t get all philosophical
3 blunts later:
Why would you promise something like that
EVERY. GODDAMNED. TIME.
Some of us don't need drugs for that
@@dg-qn5mi Why would you mention that?
@@dg-qn5mi True. Also, smoking a blunt isnt going to magically instill you with philosophical concepts like these, much less enhance your ability to articulate them. Dont care if I sound like a buzz kill or if it was 'just a joke bruh', stoner philosophy is *the* worst.
This is simply...heart warming. I now have so much to live for!
I've tried 3 times to end it. Turns out I'm bad at that too.
I hope you are doing better. That the light is winning, like the ending said. Life is what you make of it and what you put value in. Wishing you all the best
I play this video before work each morning.
It makes me smile.
U need help lmao
The power of letting go, right
Same.
What do you do
No you don’t and no it doesnt
this guy should be an Motivational speaker
for who? suicidal people ?
well that was hilarious
Motivation is useless spinning. Don't bother
inspired me. at least gave hope in knowing im not alone among all the happy-drug pushers and fake smilers
Matthew Bienko, well you had a motivation to reply to the comment, if that's useless, why did you bother?.
The monologue about the dead people's eyes and dreams about being a person still resonate with me. Fuck. It's my favorite
His words move me so deeply. This is some of the greatest acting ever seen on any screen
A pessimist is a person who has had to listen to too many optimists
Amen.
@c ball It is.
People ask if I’m an optimist. I say, I hope so
@@niallquinn2759 I say no. It's not that I hate happiness, it's just that there is little to be happy about. When happiness abounds in my presence, I enjoy every bit of it until I sink myself again into the abyss of negativity. I'm fine with it because I believe having an occasional dose of positivity helps me appreciate those brief times and also acknowledge the purpose of negativity.
Or pessimists. Because misery loves company.
*Damn, this was a really long Lincoln commercial.*
(one of the best damn crime dramas ever made imo)
God level comment
Oh man that was good
@@starman519 LoL thanx
@@user0m170 thanx
The first time I heard him talk about Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence I got this really sick feeling in my stomach, like a realization that I had forgotten something very important and just remembered it now. Ever since then I can't shake this feeling that Nietzsche was right.
Asking nicely, what does eternal occurrence mean?
@@belovedstrummer6140 The idea that everything that has happened and will happen, will happen again and again for eternity. That the universe is cyclical, meaning it is reborn over and over again, and that time will continue to repeat itself forever. Every mistake and bad thing you have experienced you will continue to experience over and over and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Essentially we are a slave to the circle of time.
@@TheUnknownDungeon It'd say it's *half* right. See, the thing about the kind of outside-time perspective that he's trying to describe, is that there's really no recurrence. It's not an endless wheel we're riding on. It's a tapestry, hanging in the void: each individual life or other existence a thread, all the threads overlaid in four dimensions, the thread of your life as a whole touching those of everything you've ever encountered or ever will. And in that perspective, it doesn't play over and over again- there's no time for it to "replay" in. It just IS. It just sits there, the four-dimensional universe in all its perfection and imperfection, timeless. Every joy and every sorrow, every brief happenstance, every pattern of devotion, every moment, all equal before eternity.
What does it all mean? What do you *want* it all to mean? Meaning is attributive, a thought within the observing mind, not a property of the thing observed. Meaning is a story. Whatever beauty or terror it all holds, is only what you've given it.
yep yep. same thing happened to me when i first read about it.
@@HillbillyArchmage it means everything is already played out.
Superb editing on this video. Well done OP!
The terrible and secret fate of all life. You're trapped.
Terrible secret, or ultimate libertarian?
+cole davidson Amen
#AMEN
Kyle Kane I don't think I'm trapped i am sure I am a pretty trap
Kyle Kane. Agreed. Forever trapped. Better to just see, accept and enjoy.
"I got a bad taste in my mouth out here: aluminum, ash." --(Rust) (Coal).
"Some people, no matter where they look, they see themselves."
Now that was truly a mind fuck.
Aluminum doesn't Rust though, my dude.
I’d have suggested he get some Listerine....😜
He said that in the scene shown above and the scene in where they find "scarface's" home. Was never sure as to why he said that.
@@Fatbeard87 this... and coal isn't ash til after it finishes burning.
Watch this everyday before work... Takes the sting out
Brothers and sisters. Opting out of a raw deal
If this guy was my college philosophy professor I would have gone to every class.
Everybody would have killed themselves by the end of the semester.
My philosophy professor is pretty much that guy, just yells a lot more. I'd give anything for another course with him after this final year. His way of bringing shit up and then sticking to it and pulling a topic from it is a hard thing to do for just any normal person.
well, either themselves, everybody else in range, or just absorbed the lesson and moved on.
6:21
"I don't want to know anything anymore"
One of the all-time best lines in a tv series
I'm pretty much like that some days.
"Listen, Nietzsche, shut the fuck up..."
Just a perfect line, perfectly delivered lol
if you're a Schopenhauer fan, we've always said that... little hacking prick.
What's that Nietzsche, shut the fuck up
Is that* Nietzsche
Rust Cohle is one of the most interesting and dark characters I see in a movie or series.
As a Buddhist having watched True Detective, it really puts a perspective on the tendency towards optimism of humans for. Humans are neither good nor evil, we just are. The pessimist is really just a former optimist who realized at some point that optimism is ridiculous. But when you dig deeper, you see how ridiculous pessimism is as well.
Then you dig even deeper and you see ridiculous digging deep is.
When you see certain Hindu Swami's, men and women who have been born in poverty, who've known nothing else. It's easier to let go of everything, to submit yourself and only yourself, not your wants or likes or dislikes. No, all of that is rejected. All you are is this machine for your intellect. This thinking thing born into a physical world. None of us could do it. Even if we gave it our 100%. We're too addicted to everything. Too attached to machine, and blood, and love.
From our perspective, living like a Swami is insane. But from their perspective, there is no other way to be eternally blissful.
Get of your high horse and join us
Microfrog Well said.
Microfrog Yes i agree. After years of social and systematic abuse, i really started to gravitate towards s pessimistic view of life but then i realized how arrogant, apathetic, and dangerous that point of view could be and it didn't resonate with the spiritual truth deep within my moral compass. Now, i just choose to bee neutral.
This is why intelligent people have higher rates of depression. It's so easy to become depressed and cynical if you just analyse life from a cold rational standpoint continuously. Because there's no true answer that you can come to that explains everything and it all begins to look cyclic and dark.
I think to some extent you have to disable your rational brain and simply acknowledge you can't unravel it all when attempting to consider cosmic mysteries like spacetime and human nature from a philosophical standpoint. Like Rust himself says, the fact humans can contemplate their own existence is kind of their major design flaw as well as their major strength.
I think when he says that he's acknowledging that he realises his own constant contemplation is what makes him so downhearted, but at the same time he's realising that his level of intellect means he can't merely ignore ruminating on life until he's depressed. It's a flat circle.
The problem is it's not even correct
@Ed M. I hadnt thought about how disturbing this was a literature device for his character. My interpretation was that his world view was just over intellectual bullshit but yes, everything he believes is designed to cope with how extraordinarily awful he thinks the world is.
You just be quiet you
@Manny Santiago he has a subjective interpretation of humanity that works as a coping mechanism. It's not rational.
You only think like this for a period of time, this type of thinking does end. For me it did at least.
Most interesting thing about season 1 of true detective (aka the greatest single season of television in history) is the way the ending ultimately proves Rust right by adding a final delusional comforting irrational silver-lining line about how “the light’s winning”.
We as the audience, the writers, directors, actors, the producers, we all couldn’t face the reality of the what Rust spoke in the earlier episodes, we needed a lie to end on to comfort us.
just like they say time is a circle, the conflict of thinking life is terrible and life is good is also a circle. many of us go in and out of these mindsets. i think all of us are confronted with one or the other at some point.
i don't feel it's a delusional thought, exactly. for some people it might be and is, but there's others where it's not accurate. collectively there is a lot of good things happening and bad things happening. when you look at all of history, i would take the position that the light is winning. but you know, it is a war, a circle, and that means there'll be good and bad successes for as long as we're here
all i know is i've spent too long in the pessimistic line of thought and eventually i was exhausted with it. those thoughts still rear their heads but it's nice to not be so miserable all the time
Bless you for putting this up
He's right. More right than any character I've ever come across. That's the horrible truth.
Absolutely. He describes reality, not some fables that people need to believe in to get through the goddamn day!
"They welcomed it." I will too.
Why do you feel like your life needs to have an objective meaning.. for it to have a meaning? Of course nothing matters. The universe is going to end at some point, and the sum of our lives will have meant nothing (unless we go reversing entropy, then we're the most important things in the goddamn universe) but that doesn't mean life means nothing. Meaning is a process, a journey. The destination is irrelevant.
***** Who said anything about objective meaning? I'd say the bottom line is that sentience isn't especially good. I'd argue that it's hard to logically defend bringing a sentient being into the world, given what we know of the world. It's not that there's not any purpose, per se, but that there's no real point, and additionally, there's no guarantee that the being's existence won't be mostly miserable. Even misery is relative, of course, but then, there you go.
Matt in the Crown
Sentience is the ONLY good. Misery comes from an inability to fulfill your desire for meaning in your life, so this whole issue is about meaning. And I say that life has meaning, even if it will have meant nothing.
Translation - life has no meaning except for the meaning we give it.
But how could the wold/nature, which has no meaning, create something that gives it meaning?
+Honest Op the meaning we give is subjective delusions we create in our minds so practically, it means nothing.
Yeah. I see that point being made in the show but i would have to disagree. There has to be objective meaning otherwise whats the point in going on?
+Honest Op That's the thing, there is no point to anything; we give meaning to live on through delusions we hold in our heads in order to feel a sense of purpose and identity, whether it be through ambitions, religion etc. whereas from a pessimist point of view, we are biologically designed to die. It actually makes suicide seem more natural if you think about it lol Futility at its finest "it's all just one big ghetto man"
+Honest Op but then again, looking at life from an objective standpoint, I would say the only real tangible thing is family; which makes sense as it fits the role of reproduction that we as humans are biologically designed to do.
His performance is amazing, one of his best. Any fellow writers out there? Anyone realizing that his words are not his own? Pizzolato wrote all that and it was a executed in outstanding fashion. This is a team sport and the whole crew, especially and the lighting and sound crew, did a superb job. Nothing but respect. If you don‘t know what Im talking about, watch the credits after the episodes.
Now that I am 43, I completely understand the truth of Cohle's philosophy.