I always thought that it is heavily implied that Fia had sex with her champions and the corpses, in general she is a very promiscuous figure although loyal to her beliefs. The "hug" that she gives us in the game is kinda like an allegory, she was most likely forced to pursue the companion role against her will for the majority of her life
I'm glad you brought this up. It's something that I didn't get around to further explaining. Yes, I agree. It is implied that Fia slept with her champions and nobles. 1. Rogier - She mentions that Rogier talks about the knife prints when 'abed.' This implies some post-intercourse discussion, as one does. 2. Lionel - You find his armour and Fia's dress on a bed. This seems to suggest that they disrobed and had intercourse. What's more interesting is that Lionel claimed to be Fia's father. Scandalous. 3. Godwyn - Fia 'gestates' the rune. She 'lays' with Godwyn's corpse and is impregnated. Now I personally believe this is not because she wants to, or likes being promiscuous. I think having skin-to-skin contact is a more efficient way of transfering the vigour from a champion to Fia, and from Fia to the noble. Therefore, it is achieving her goal in the quickest method. We are able to give her some of our vigour, because we are touching whilst hugging. In theory, we should also be able to do so by sleeping with Fia. Obviously if this was a function, it would be a completely different game. But also, the poetic and symbolic meaning would be lost and Fia would only be viewed for that purpose. She is more than just that. But she is also aware of it, that’s why she says “Do you think it vulgar?” She knows the connotations but still views it as sacred. But yes, you are right. The hug can be seen as an allegory for intercourse :)
@@miss_chalice also, it might not even be actually more effective. Those nobles had power over her. They could easily force her into doing it, or else.
In the case of her laying with Godwyn, due to the massive and bizarre form Godwyn is in while she lays next to him, I imagine the conception of the rune is performed in a metaphysical sense through the deathbed dream, or is able to be done through the mere skin-on-skin contact of her sleeping while slouched against Godwyn.
@@chrispysaid A lot of people speculate Marika(Freya) shattered the Elden Ring because Godwyn(Baldur) was murdered in the NOTBK which caused the Shattering(Ragnarok). Ranni would’ve been Loki in this parallel.
@@chrispysaid Baldur was the beloved golden boy of the Norse Pantheon, Godwyn is literally "the Golden." Baldur was invulnerable to everything except mistletoe due to the head goddess Freya, Godwyn like all other demigods was thought to be completely immortal. Baldur was killed by a betrayal from fellow divine figure Loki using mistletoe, the only weapon that could harm him, Godwyn was killed by a betrayal from fellow demigod Ranni using the Black Knives, the only weapon known to kill demigods. Baldur's death is the first in the chain that results in Ragnarok, Godwyn's death triggers the Shattering. Baldur is said to eventually resurrect as the new god, Godwyn is mutated as the Prince of Death who can through the Tarnished become the dominant power. It's frankly more impressive that you think they don't have much in common when what little we know of Baldur maps fairly simply onto Godwyn.
The first time I hugged Fia was at the exact moment the music in round table hold swelled, it sent melancholy goose bumps through my body and I still don’t think I’ve recovered. A beautifully weird anomaly to find in a souls game.
Fia being fortissax is actually a really interesting and fun theory considering everything we know about the dragon cults and Godwyn's involvement with them.
I actually love the idea! But it does bring up some questions with her being one of the Tarnished mentioned in the intro cutscene… However, Fortissax does have Fia in its name… 🤔
@@amplefyre if a dragon could see the guidance of grace and then take the form of a tarnished then yeahhhh but I think it’s a bit of a reach but a fun idea
@@colorpg152 that is true but fia never mentions any relatives she only ever talks about being forced to leave her home I feel like if the two were some how connected she would drop a hint or two about it. Besides all that the theory is so good I’m willing to just accept it as my own personal head cannon anyway
If no one mentioned this, it was more likely that the weathered dagger was Devins. It was said Devin, Darian's brother had seen the corpse of Godwyn. Darian does like us quite a bit and likely woulda said "oh, u found my dagger." But instead he said he knows who's it is. I'd imagine there was a time where Darian was the "lesser" brother, and Devin was the greater until his traumatization at realization of death being yk...a thing in the world now, and having seen the prince of death.
The dagger's description mentions the black withering on it. Devin used the dagger to cut the half wheelmark, the Mark of the Centipede, from Godwyn's flesh. That's why Fia says the first half was recovered from Roundtable Hold. She kills Darian with Deathblight and takes Godwyn's half of the mark back. That's why she also points you toward Rogier's quest. He's searching for the key that will lead to the other half, and thus to her being able to birth her mending rune, allowing Those Who Live In Death into the new order.
It's weird, because we never hear the perspective of those who live in death. The golden order claims that they are constantly suffering and only a proper death will give them peace, Fia instead, says that they need to be loved and accepted as part of the new order. When we meet them they attack us, but is it out of fear of persecution or are they really just mindless zombies? Regardless, this was the ending i first went with, i wanted to believe that Fia was right, but something about it never quite sat right with me.
You bring up some interesting points! I agree, I think it's interesting that Fia acts on behalf of the Those Who Live in Death (TWLID). BUT also Godwyn! Does Godwyn consent? Does he want to be rebirthed, in some fashion? I viewed it through the lense that they did. But if you start to consider if from a different angle, it can paint Fia as the villain. Keeping TWLID alive, not leaving them to rest could be a torturous fate. Very thought-provoking stuff! Thanks for your comment :)
Godwyn... Is a body, I doubt Godwyn can consent to anything. Not that he'd need to, because Godwyn is for all intents and purposes an object. But the rest of TWLID... I am not sure. They have basic intelligence for sure. Sentience is debatable. It's really hard to tell when they are skeleton enemies in Dark Souls. Were they in a game with AI more focused on non interactions with the player character, we might have been able to study their behaviours, but with what we are given, it's a hard bargain to draw conclusions.
If they suffer the same fate as Godwyn, they don't have a soul, there's no perspective from them because they aren't beings. They are just moving corpses.
One thing I would add is that when Fia is resting beside Godwyn's corpse waiting for you to bring her the second part of the rune of death, if you attack her she says: "Godwyn... Is that you, dear?" Then several skulls are launched from the body of Godwyn directly above Fia and aim at the player. It's not really dangerous and it's easily dodged. But this does have some VERY disturbing implications: -This means that Fia can communicate directly with Godywn to some degree. Or Godwyn can communicate with her and therefore potentially others. -Godwyn is sentient, aware and can interact with the living world, even to a violent degree. -Godwyn likes/approves of Fia, since he tries to protect her. -Godwyn is corrupting and spreading his will through the Erdtree/lands between on purpose. He probably has a plan/goal. -Since he is aware of Fia/his corpses surroundings, it's possible this extends to all parts of himself (His corruption through the Erdtree roots) meaning he might be somewhat omnipresent. If that's all correct, Godywn is terrifying.
The big issue is that Godwyn is only half dead in the worst possible way. Ranni got the easy end of things with her body dying (no biggy she's basically the most powerful witch at the time of Elden Ring since Rennala's prime is long past) with her magic/overall power allowing her to posses the dolls she takes the form of Godwyn's soul - what made him Godwyn, his personality and sense of morality - is gone forever. What's left behind is the body of a demigod that's literally *gone hollow*. His burial at the base of the erdtree was BIG oopsy as all the deathroot and eye-trees and crabs with his face on the back are his doing. He is the first undead - a being held aloft by nothing but his own body. HE'S BASICALLY NITO BUT AT LEAST NITO HAS A SOUL
The Lichdragon Fortissax boss fight is cool and all, but I feel cheated out of a monster Godwyn boss fight. How do you design this amazing abomination, plunk it down at the end of this massive optional area, and not make it the final boss of her quest line?
Fia, the only NPC who provides us all with the one thing we all require: to be held. Also a special shoutout to Fortissax the Loyal, who stayed with his friend till the end.
That was a very interesting take, especially the part that Fia could be a dragon in disguise. This brings up some interesting questions. 1. What's Fia's relationship with Destined Death and Farum Azula? Is Farum Azula the land she was driven out from? In Farum Azula we find the Wormface, who cursed you with death. The Dragons are in Farum Azula This is where Maliketh is found, protecting the remaining part of the rune of death. 🤔🤔
I love the theory that Fia is Fortissax, I've never heard that idea put forth by anyone else and it makes perfect sense to me. Thank you for this incredible video and the equally wonderful cosplay!
@@vooligan9499 1. Letters match in their names, and names tend to be clues in Elden Ring 2. Both are called companions of Godwyn 3. Devotion to Godwyn 4. Dragons can take human form 5. Tarnished don't have to be human (Goldmask) 6. Godrick calls a dragon 'kindred' which may be literal. Might be a descendant of Marika through Godwyn and a dragon 7. Cult of the Dragon thriving despite most other Golden Order enemies being subject to genocide 8. If you hit Fia, she calls Godwyn 'my dear' instead of master or Lord. It seems more familiar, like she once knew him
@@Trotsworth Further to the naming point, Fia is in FortIssAx and the letters afterward do a count down F-3-I-2-A-1. Since as you said that she dies as Fortissax dies, it could be dev poetic license that as you see the name for the first and the last time you're counting down till the end of her life and the completion of her goals. Just another theory but yeah.
I don't actually think it was Darian that removed the cursemark - I think it was Devin. Darian mentions that he knows who the blade belongs to, not that it's *his* . Also, Devin is resting in the underground, and I can't remember where it was said, but something (I believe an item description, or dialogue, or something) says that he supposedly lost his mind after witnessing the Prince of Death. That means Devin, also a hunter of Those Who Live In Death, has at one point been in the presence of Godwyn's corpse. I believe Devin is the one who found Godwyn, shattered his own dagger removing the cursemark from Godwyn's body, and then ended up in Siofra after going mad. Darian, of course, is not going to amicable towarsa Fia, but I don't think he was the owner of the dagger. I think Fia was removing the last threat, Devin's twin brother, who would almost certainly attempt the same thing. Devin has already gone mad, and without the Tarnished's interference, will simply sit in the aqueducts and do nothing. He is not a threat anymore. Darian still is, so Fia must get rid of him.
Sorry I can't hold it back any longer... this video of yours is still my favourite! I love to just listen to you bringing me all great memories I have for my one and only, Fia. Thank you so much.
The Rogier theory where he’s dead makes a lot of sense. If you go into Stormveil castle to the bottom where you fight the ulcerated tree spirit there is a blood stain. It’s Rogier getting death blighted. There is a dialogue option for it when you talk to Rogier if you find it.
I remember seeing that, and thinking it was so odd! I knew next to nothing about the game, its narrative or its systems at that point, but I knew right away I saw Rogier dying in that spot.
I spent the whole of my playthrough up until near the very end rejecting her hugs because I had suspicions about her. But then I finally concede to her offer of a hug, and after all the agony of the game at that point as soon as she gently said “You are very warm!” I literally burst into tears! The hug is just as much for the player! 😭
20:22 Lately I’ve been playing with the idea that the eclipse is the origin of Destined Death. If you look at the Eclipse Shotel, it bears a striking resemblance to the halfwheel cursemark found on Ranni’s and Godwyn’s corpses. It’s only when you bring them together and brandish the Elden ring that the eclipse finally happens and returns the principle of Death back into the Lands Between(Duskborn Ending).
IIRC, Castle Sol and it’s followers believed that the coming of the eclipse would grant Godwyn a true death or would revive him, which is why the shotel looks similar to the cursebrand. Miquella is mixed in the Castle Sol/ eclipse lore too, and there’s the Golden Epitaph sword description as well. Kinda lends itself to Miquella seeking a true death for Godwyn
Your voice is so soft and calming and comforting! Whenever I don't see your videos for a while and come check them out again I have to get used to it at first, it really calms the anxiety and everything that builds up during everyday life! 😊
@sabineschmidt762 their endings are the only good parts about the final acts, some of the only games i think have satisfying endings are fromsoft games, but they all have the same similar feeling towards the end i know other rpgs do it like act 3 in bg3 isnt as good as 1 n 2 but its still a lot more fleshed out and wasnt as rushed as say, farum azula or the bed of chaos
@@grantpowers663 Really the only distinct endings here are the bloodborne great old one ending and the lord of hollows ending in ds3 because they actually require you to follow an additional path, infact elden rings palette swap endings require far more different circumstances throughout the game then any other fromsoft ending. And yes, i'm comparing farum azula to the bed of chaos. Maybe it feels weird teleporting for seemingly no reason from what was one big interconnected area to an atomized area seperate completely on its own, with the lowest enemy variety in the entire game - beastmen, banished knights we've been fighting the entire game, and a Lansseax clone. Truly pushing the envelope
That is a bummer, frenzy flame & Ranni endings get unique cinematics. As for the default, Golden order, dung eater & Fias ending?: you sit on the throne with diffrent filters. Done
IMHO, this is the best presentation on Fia. You covered everything I knew plus a lot more! The theory on Fortissax being Fia is really compelling. I agreenwith you that Fia's ending might be one of the most moral. Great work. 👍
This is the 2nd of your videos I've watched, Miss Chalice, and I feel compelled to say: You are absolutely delightful. A breath of fresh air for the platform. I'd like to highlight my favorite aspects of your work: - Looking different and interesting every time is such a fun thing for us as viewers - Your vocal tone is excellent, soft and clear - Your narration is very well written - Your lore is consistently thorough and I'm thus far always surprised by things I hadn't known already I am subbing, and excited to see you succeed if you keep this up.
It is an interesting idea that Rogier jn the Hold is a spirit, though I am suspecting he might be some kind of inbetween of Those Who Live in Death and actually dead, as he does have a bloodstain at the bottom of Stormveil where we see Rogier getting killed by deathblight, yet here he is in the Hold. So either he is indeed in this “deathspirit” form or deathblight itself doesn’t necessarily mean death as a regular death, but rather as death to join Those Who Live in Death, or maybe if you experience deathblight enough it takes you, kind of like the hollowing from the Souls games. Very curious.
Not shitting on your comment, jus have a genuine question. How do we know it is supposed to be Rogier? And not just a player wearing his outfit? Like is it labeled as Rogier?
@@collinsims2413 There are a few things. First is that that is the only single bloodstain that appears there when you're offline, meaning you can't see any player bloodstains at all, just the developer placed ones. Second the bloodstain is specifically a death animation of a player model dying from Deathblight and that area does not have any enemies or effects that cause Deathblight buildup. Third is Rogier's dialogue option "progresses" only once you interact with the bloodstain, indicating that you "found" the face below the castle, which will trigger his dialogue to discuss it. Hope that clears it up!
@@Lexsed ahh, didnt even think about seeing the bloodstain while offline, or the dialogue progression, and i never actually went down there so i wasnt aware there werent any basilisk or wormface down there. Thanks for the clarification.
Amazing video! I was actually very sympathetic to Fia. It was actually the ending I chose in my first playthrough. To think that she may be Fortissax in human form, is a great theory. I always wondered why we enter her dream and find a dragon. Keep up the great work!
You do realize her ending is just like Dung Eater's right ? The only difference is that instead of everyone being Omens everyone will be undead instead
Thanks for keeping the content coming! Your cosplays are always so entertaining and well done, and your voice is smooth as silk. Love hearing your insight into the lore of the game. Please, keep these videos coming!
This was a super cool vid, I finished my NG+ run with the Duskborn ending, and it was a really interesting set of quests and battles. I love the idea that Fia is the companion within the deathbed dream, I never even thought about the fact they could take on the appearance of humans. :D Keep up the great work!
I would love to see a Lady Maria (Bloodborne, The Old Hunters) loreplay in the future! Considering your username has chalice in it and the chalice dungeons Bloodborne is well known for, I think expanding into Bloodborne lore would be very fitting. I suggest Maria now because she has a profoundly sympathetic background, which seems to be your area of greatest interest! Excellent content all around; excited to see an up-and-coming lore creator with such evident passion as your cosplays.
This video couldn't have come at a better time, I just finished my 2nd playthru with her ending! I had...always wondered if her intentions were selfish or selfless...but after watching this I definitely feel it was more of the latter. Thank you for making this lore video and for the other ones you've made so far!! They really help open my eyes to the inner workings of the story. ^-^
Just here to say that this is beautiful content, and thank you for your work. I look forward to what you’ll do when the DLC comes out. Glad I found this channel. ✊🏿
I loved Fia as a character and I really like her reasoning for everything, she seems to be one of the most morally sound people in the lands between. She wants all life to be equal and shown respect including those who live in death. I like her ending because of her story it's very interesting to me.
@@amai-w8f I think it's meant to be open to interpretation but I'm leaning towards her ending not being bad. The mending rune that Fia gives you says "The Golden Order was created by confining destined death (the rune of death). Thus, this new order will be one of death restored." This implies that the mending rune will simply restore the rune of death. But also Fia saying she wished to be mother to those who live in death and then "birthing" the mending rune could imply that the rune creates more zombies so I don't really know
@@furni2686 Death to the Lands Between gets brought back regardless when we defeat Maliketh, that's the whole reason why we can even burn the Erdtree and kill the Elden Beast. The Mending Rune of Death actually just rewrites the fact that being dead is the end of your life, in other words, being undead now is completely normal so everyone in the Lands Between ends up like those Tibia Mariners when they die and eventually everyone will be in a state of un(death). That's why it is called the age of the "Duskborn", where your "life" starts after you are dead. Fia talks about resurrecting Godwyn but she doesn't want him to change one bit, he is her Prince of Death after all, what Fia means is that the state he currently is should be officially made normal and not something to be hunted or removed from the order... I would only rank the Frenzied Flame as more evil than this one. The most neutral end would be either the Age of Stars where Ranni simply removes the order from the LB and leaves people there to fend for themselves (similar to our world) and the Age of Order where Goldmask makes so that the gods chosen by the Greater Will can't mend with the order anymore (but still bad because the Greater Will persecuted certain races by itself without the need of any God meddling with it.
@@furni2686 He's right. Death is already restored when the rune of death is released. The norm in Elden Ring is that when someone dies their soul goes to the Erdtree and they're birthed anew. What Fias ending does is make living in death the norm. Deathroot spreads everywhere including the Erdtree, which is why there are scenes of decay shown in the ending, everything is grey and foggy, everyone is a skeleton basically. Fia is a traumatised individual with a very warped sense of morality who identifies more with the dead than the living. She's actually very creepy when you start to understand her. Her use of puppets (that she calls champions) makes her no more moral than Seluvis.
@@TheSm1thers this was interesting to read! i was definitely leaning more on Fia being lawful good until this. one thing I appreciate about ER's characters is that they are all multifaceted.
fia is my favorite character and too many people hate her or write her off as evil - i never understood it, her narrative always seemed so clearly to be about choice and standing up for those who had none; the ritual-sexual aspects of her character felt like a believable kind of death rite in the world, never something she chose or something based around deceit or trickery. (not to mention that she explains in her first dialogue the nature of what she does re: taking a little vigor in exchange for the ability to ignore pain (poise); in terms of gameplay mechanics, it all translates perfectly within the lore.) thank you for such a beautiful and well-explained analysis of this character!
I really enjoyed this. I felt the story leaned this way myself though not as in-depth as this. It nice to get the details I missed and put the whole story together.
Oh miss chalice I have been missing your elden ring lore videos very much! So glad you graced us with another excellent exploration/examination of the ever mysterious world that is elden ring! Thank you!! And love your outfits by the way! Wishing you the best!! :)
I absolutely love how Elden Ring follows Norse Mythology point for point. It's so amazing to have my Heritage represented in such an accurate and respectful manner while also having a completely original story.
That epiphany!!! Fortisaxx = Fia. Is an absolute bombshell! Including the (exile) portion. As we know the dragons attacked Leyndel. This is amazing insight. Thank you!
My only issue with that theory is that Fia is Tarnished meaning she was banished from the lands between long before the Night of Black Knives while the Remembrance of Fortissaxx implies that Fortissaxx has been fighting the curse of death within Godwyn since the Night Black knives becoming corrupted in the failed attempt.
This is the first video I've seen from you and it's so well done! I love the way you've gone about the narrative and explained it. Keep up the amazing work!
I kept struggling in this video, between paying full attention to the lore and exciting theories, and falling asleep to your soft voice. Great video, great cosplay, great (even if not intentional) asmr, please keep posting!
I kind of assumed as a deathbed companion that leads to peaceful death in a way, Fia wanted to help the undead pass on to death peacefully. Instead of being hunted having the opportunity to die on their own terms. So bringing death back to Lands Between would bring them peace. That's my interpretation at least.
I must say I do enjoy the contrast between these well-thought-out, sophisticated long form asmr type videos and the lude memes on instagram and stuff, embracing all facets of human life, or something
That was an excellent video. It was very informative. I finished Dark Souls 3 a month before finishing Elden Ring with different endings, including the one from your video and I did notice a similarity between that Elden Ring ending and the Third Dark Souls 3 : The Usurpation of Fire, You know that ending where you had to go perform a wedding ceremony with Anri male or Anri female ( depending on the gamer's gender ) and you become the new Ruler and Lord of Hollows( The Undead) in Londor where the Undead can roam free. Gotta love FromSoftware's references to their previous games.
The weathered dagger I think belonged to d’s brother who once stood at godwin the goldens corpse, and when you give the dagger to d, he said that he knows who’s dagger it is
Great video, you are so thorough and explained some stuff I didn't understand! I always thought the age of the duskborn is one where destined death and reincarnation are both gone and instead people become zombies after death.
Yo, what a vid. Just stumbled upon this channel (praise be the algorithm) and honestly, the amount of thought you put into your vid(s) is staggering. Although some people obviously already pointed out certain things that could be interpreted differently from other angles. What gets me though is how weird the whole concept of "living in death" is. From what we know, nothing in the Lands Between CAN actually die as of the game's time - since the Rune of Death is bound up until the very end of the game. That Rune is what allowed Ranni to get herself and Godwyn killed. I take it to mean that (for gameplay purposes or not) this means none of the characters who die in the game can actually stay dead properly. From that I assume living in death means that the undead just exist as shambling corpses with no soul attached to themselves? Or is it the various states of decay that mark those Living in Death? All that I know it CAN'T be is that the body is dead and the soul is off doing its own thing. That's what Ranni did to herself, and her body is still very cozy locked away in death. Then again, that might also be due to her body having the rune inscribed still. Is it maybe any combination of spiritual and physical death that leads to "living in death"? Also, why does Fia count herself among them?
The lichdragon is one of my favourite bosses in the game. On a slightly unrelated note, I saw a theory somewhere noticing how the texture of malikeths black blade, is similar to the skin of fortissax, that Being black with speckles/dustings of gold.
I have to say that I love this video so much. The way you weave the convoluted story of this character in an easy-to-understand, but at the same time, exciting narrative was terrific. That said, I can't entirely agree with your interpretation of her story on several points. Being a fromsoft game, it is unlikely that two people will have the same views over anything lore-wise. So please don't take this as a harsh criticism, but just a different interpretation of one of my favorite characters in Elden Ring: - I think Baldachin's Blessing is given only when Fia saps life energy from you. This will have two uses. First, if you are strong enough, this will give you the incentive to be sapped. Second, if you are dying, this could be seen as a mercy kill, and the blessing could take away your pain in the process. - I don't think those who live within death only appear with the death of Godwyn. Before the eldtree, other beings (outer gods perhaps?) were related to life in death. The Death Bird, for example, as seen in the Death Ritual Spear (The priests became guardians of the birds through the rite of Death, which also serves as an oath sworn to their distant resurrection) or the Regal Ancestor Spirit as seen in Ancestral Spirit's Horn(A number of new growths bud from the antler-like horns of the fallen king, each glowing with light. Thus does new life grow from death, and from death, one obtains power). My point is that deathroot is not the original source of life within death, but just the biggest one in recent times. - I don't think their champions are living within death. The way they act reminds me more of spirit ashes than anything else. And I think they are just that, spirits being summoned not through ashes but by a similar process, a deathbed companion technique that we can't learn. - I don't think Fortissax is trying to protect Godwyn from Fia. Fortissax was trying to fight the corruption within his friend, to give him a true death or to save him. I think this because we saw a finger-reading saying, "Poor Golden Prince, why couldn't you have a true death?." This is probably what most of the Golden Order thought, and the dragons were aligned with the Golden Order. At the point of Fia's arrival, Fortissax is just crazy and corrupted himself, so he just attacks everything on sight. - I don't believe that Fia is Fortissax due to translation into other languages. At least the argument where you said it is not said to be a male anywhere. In Spanish, it stays as a male dragon. Maybe this is just a translation oversight. - Related to symbology, I love the comparison of the Mending Rune and the Yin-Yang. But I would like to add the Fia similarities to the "Whore of Babylon". From reddit user u/Depressed_Tapeworm: "Fia is imo one big Whore of Babylon reference. The Whore of Babylon is described as a woman sitting atop a blasphemous beast (reference to Godwyn potentially) and described as the 'mother of Earth's abominations' which is pretty much what those who live in death are considered to be by the Golden Order and Fia has explicitly stated that she wants to be a mother to those who live in death. She seduces you and others into following this same route. Babylon itself is often used as metaphor for a world that's strayed from God's path and seduces those who live in it towards a blasphemous one, which is pretty apt for Fia and imo her world post-ending compared to the Golden Order's ideals. It's loose, but Elden Ring's not been shy about making some religious references like Rykard's entire blasphemous imagery and everything related to him and Mohg's very on-the-nose satanic imagery." - I think the ending has more impact than just accepting those who live within death in society. Fia considers those who live within death weak and deserve protection and help. Clearly, she wants to revive Godwyn, which means that she doesn't consider a body without a soul to be truly alive, or at least, alive in the best possible way. So I think the Mending Rune of Death "it will embed the principle of life within Death into Order" means something more. It means that life within death will be the new standard for a deceased soul, but they won't turn into the zombie-like enemies we meet in the game. The Duskborn will be something different, something new to the lands between. I would love to hear your opinion on these points, and again, even with all the points I disagree with, I genuinely love your video!
I believe the dagger given by Fia is actually D's brothers (Devin also known as D) Which is why he recognizes it and says he will return it to it's owner, You're given a note by Rogier after he dies that D has a brother and he's in the aqueducts after having fought 'The Prince Of Death' which is the 'undead' Godwyn. This explains why the sword/dagger is damaged and cursed by death. You can talk to D's brother and give him D's armour at some part before defeating Fortissax. When you reload the area after defeating Fortissax he will be standing over Fia's body in D's armour then if you reload the area again you can get D's armour (Again) and also the Twinsword known as the Inseparable Sword. Looking at the description of D's Armour you will find that the two D brothers were 'inseparable' because they share a soul, two minds, two bodies, one soul. After avenging his brothers death Devin states he wishes to be taken so he can be with his brother. I don't believe Fia is Fortissax as it is said that because the soul of Godwyn lived on he couldn't truely die and became the prince of death many tried to put him to rest including Fortissax with no success and was corrupted by the prince of death becoming a Lichdragon. "He" Is also reffered to as "the Mightiest Boulderstone, and the brother of Lansseax" at some point. So the reason he is in the dream is because he tried to put Godwyn to rest.
Fia being Fortissax is a cool potentiality. And by the immediate events, they practically tell vanquishing Fortissax and Fia's death afterwards is connected.
On my first playthrough I haphazardly missed/botched her questline. Most of its events just "happened" to me as I was distracted by so much else going on in the game/story. I fought her champions by accident, and even missed SEEING Godwyn entirely (he's somewhat camouflaged, right?)! Then I found out she was connected to an ending, so in my second playthrough I have been sticking close to her. Her questline and story is amazing. It's deep, emotional, well-planned out... it's a shame it is so easily overlooked. Great video, you've hit some amazing points here.
19:25 I love this as a concept and I think there is a lot of potential with dragons posing as humans but I thought it was fairly clear that Fia is a tarnished.
Beautifully written. My character followed Fia's questline, and had chosen her as his desired end. But somewhere along the line he stumbled and D's apprentice was able to slay her. Mourning her death and his inability to protect FIa, my character wore her hood, became Elden Lord, and burned the world. Such an amazing game.
So I have mixed feelings and ideas about this. On one hand you did an amazing job at telling this story, and the insight into Fortissaxx potentially being Fia is something I hadn't considered before. On the other hand, while I do think Fia's intentions are noble, and quite frankly, those I would get behind, I don't think that it fully explains what's going on here. There are...other connections that the two Ds and Fia have with those who live in death, and I don't think they take anything away from your theories, but may add to them, or might make a complete picture. Sorry for being vague, I'm currently working on a script for theories as well. Excellent job on this, I really enjoyed it!
This is my first time seeing one of your lore videos and I'm just amazed. You are darling. Makes me love the game all the more. Thank you for sharing this!
In the southern part of Summonwater town in Limgrave, you can find two skeletons actually having a conversation. I guess this might suggest that Those who live in death might be self-aware? Some of them at least.
I am finally playing Elden Ring after putting it off for a while. Watching your videos makes me realize that I missed so much 😂. NG+ babyyyy!!!! Great contact though! Your voice is so soothing and you explain the lore very well! 😁
Watching over the video after a few others were recommended and decided to give it a viewing. Not at all bad for lore purposes, and definitely a good listen. Probably will have to watch a few others and see just how good of a job you've done. Love the cosplay of the 3 I have seen in my feed so far, and enjoy the more hushed style to these (if it persists in the others, unless you're doing it softly as Fia would, but all the same, very good). TL;DR at the bottom. I wanted to point out a few things that some of the comments spoke of, but also some points mentioned by yourself (both in video and the comments). For example, the current top comment, you mention Lionel potentially sleeping with Fia. I felt Rogier and potentially other such, "champions," other player characters by the basic summoning system technically for the fight, most definitely did. But, Lionel? You can see it in the way of the corpse you pick up the items from, slouched in on itself on the bedside, not laying down, or any of the sort. You could argue a different form, but I feel like the descriptions of the gear for both Fia and Lionel, along with Fia's own Dialogue what their lives were like, or in the case of Lionel, what their relationship was. It felt more like the protective, caring form, similar to how we receive hugs - and yes, it could absolutely be a direct parallel to sleeping with her, as the comments say... but it directly states that he's a chivalrous, dauntless knight. Wording and phrasing not too uncommon in descriptions of other kind and caring more rotund companions within the Dark Souls franchise - Siegmeyer is best Onion bro, fight me. We know of their character, we know of how they act, and though Lionel is not shown outside of his interactions with the player in 3 parts - Radahn Festival as a Companion Summon, his Armour Set in the Capital, and lastly, in Combat when called upon to protect Fia - we do know through those light descriptions, that the man is... was, a more noble soul. It would only makes sense if he too, was upset by how this poor, weakened soul had thus lost her home... and took her in. I believe in the same way that we receive our contact through hugging, so too, did he. Even if it's more of an embrace than a hug, I do not believe it to have been laying with. Now, additionally, as a note to tie into that, and the point I did not hear mentioned as far as I am currently in the video - and I will go back and edit this should you mention it, but - and this is me barely remembering after 500+ hours of PvP, multiple character playthroughs, and bashing my head against Fire Giant with a Pure Fire Build - at some point, it's mentioned that Fia is most likely chased out, as she was brought back from Death as a Tarnished - as all others were (Gideon, Dungeater, etc), as we see for each of them, their death and technical undeath as they return. Her duty to birth a child for a noble, which we see in her introduction, is RUINED, as she is returned to life, losing her purpose as a Death Bed Companion, having lost the Vitality she had taken upon herself upon her revival - which is also why it is implied, that upon birthing the Rune of Death, she passes away, though D (who we know is both Darian and Devin, as they are "One soul," (Item description of the chestpiece, "The two known as D are inseparable twins. They are of two bodies and two minds, but one single soul. Not once do they stand together; not one word do they speak to one another," all items describing exactly this matter, more or less in similar detail) can and will come and murder her corpse similarly to another Soulsborne Game, should you "return" his armour to Devin. We do also know they are one in the same, as if YOU kill him and return the armour, even should you "cleanse your sins" with the Absolution Mechanic, he will still be Aggro and instantly attack you upon sight. Where as, you may speak with "D" after he "kills" Fia (again, more like just butchers the body), afterwards as if to get revenge, but will not be hostile towards you... and then promptly dies himself, leaving you his gear (again), and his weapon this time. Do keep in mind, my mind is FRIED with all the Soulsborne game lore, so who knows, maybe half of what I said is a fever dream, and I'm just chasing St. Trina. All the same though, a lot of what we have is given directly to us, but others like Lionel are just out there, entirely up to interpretation. I'd love to see more of a connecting story for this, as only going over the Single side (even though there is a very obvious Ranni cosplay and video glaring at me right now, next to a Goldmask too) does hide or shift a lot of the important information that could tell people a bit more. Like why Ranni did what she had. TL;DR - Found you through like 4 Video recommendations, checking to see if I like your stuff, may Sub, may not. I think Lionel is Chivalrous Onion Bro, actual Fatherly Love, nothing more cuz Items and Onion Bro. Fia was kicked out due to failing her duties as a Death Bed Companion, it's stated like twice by characters at some point. D(arian) and D(evin) are two bodies and minds, but 1 soul. You can find it by the way it works and how they (Devin), speak to/of the other upon Quest Completion.
And I JUST, did the Age Of Duskborn ending!!! It's definitely become my new favorite ending after rereading through the lines!!! Love the cosplay btw ❤ Your voice is so calming and relaxing it helps me sleep 🥰
You do realize her ending is just like Dung Eater's right ? The only difference is that instead of everyone being Omens everyone will be undead instead
@@amai-w8f Not true 1.) You get the rune from Fia by literally hugging her, whereas you have to literally violate the Dung Eater with a magical STD not once or even twice, but 5 freaking times until his corpse produces it. 2.) Dung Eater is also a madman with no reason behind what he does, he turns people into monsters while Fia has good intent and logic in her motives. She wants to help Godwyn who we all can agree is a good dude we *want* to help if we can. 3.) Fia's ending simply restores the natural cycle of life and death it has nothing to do nor does it say anything about her ending turning everyone into an undead, it mainly says Those Who Live In Death are accepted among the living.
@@thewhitespectre 1) & 20 are moot points, all i meant is the ending goal not how the questline happens. 3) Destined death is already returned back to the lands between when you kill Maliketh, as it is unbound from him/the sword. this means people can truly die again but doesn't replace the Golden Order and all the nonsense with rebirth the Erdtree can do. The Mending Rune of the Death-Prince used to repair the Elden Ring lets you create a new Order with life and death at its roots as Elden Lord and this cuts the Erdtree out of the picture when it comes to life and death and removes the possibility of Rebirth. What that means to Fia that instead of being born anew you simply keep on living after you die, she wants a world where everyone is just like Godwyn and her "bringing him back to life" is simply making it okay for him to be the way he is, nothing changes. It's called the Age of the DUSKBORN for a reason, as in you start to "live" when you die.
I always thought that it is heavily implied that Fia had sex with her champions and the corpses, in general she is a very promiscuous figure although loyal to her beliefs. The "hug" that she gives us in the game is kinda like an allegory, she was most likely forced to pursue the companion role against her will for the majority of her life
I'm glad you brought this up. It's something that I didn't get around to further explaining. Yes, I agree. It is implied that Fia slept with her champions and nobles.
1. Rogier - She mentions that Rogier talks about the knife prints when 'abed.' This implies some post-intercourse discussion, as one does.
2. Lionel - You find his armour and Fia's dress on a bed. This seems to suggest that they disrobed and had intercourse. What's more interesting is that Lionel claimed to be Fia's father. Scandalous.
3. Godwyn - Fia 'gestates' the rune. She 'lays' with Godwyn's corpse and is impregnated.
Now I personally believe this is not because she wants to, or likes being promiscuous. I think having skin-to-skin contact is a more efficient way of transfering the vigour from a champion to Fia, and from Fia to the noble. Therefore, it is achieving her goal in the quickest method.
We are able to give her some of our vigour, because we are touching whilst hugging. In theory, we should also be able to do so by sleeping with Fia. Obviously if this was a function, it would be a completely different game. But also, the poetic and symbolic meaning would be lost and Fia would only be viewed for that purpose. She is more than just that. But she is also aware of it, that’s why she says “Do you think it vulgar?” She knows the connotations but still views it as sacred.
But yes, you are right. The hug can be seen as an allegory for intercourse :)
@@miss_chalice also, it might not even be actually more effective. Those nobles had power over her. They could easily force her into doing it, or else.
@@miss_chalice I perfectly agree with you, fia deserves a dignity that society took from her, she fought for it through the entire game
In the case of her laying with Godwyn, due to the massive and bizarre form Godwyn is in while she lays next to him, I imagine the conception of the rune is performed in a metaphysical sense through the deathbed dream, or is able to be done through the mere skin-on-skin contact of her sleeping while slouched against Godwyn.
Lifeforce is expended during sex anyways. The whole idea of "essence"
I am, canonically, Fia's Little PogChamp.
I hate this
@@camh4659 As much as I hate it, It got a snicker out of me lol
@@camh4659Come on Man
@@Ol_Bron give cam h some snickers
i just love how entire concept of godwyn and his back story is inspired by balder from norse mythology
going to read up on this right now!
How? Baldur and Godwyn have very little in common as far as I can tell
@@chrispysaid A lot of people speculate Marika(Freya) shattered the Elden Ring because Godwyn(Baldur) was murdered in the NOTBK which caused the Shattering(Ragnarok). Ranni would’ve been Loki in this parallel.
@@chrispysaid Baldur was the beloved golden boy of the Norse Pantheon, Godwyn is literally "the Golden." Baldur was invulnerable to everything except mistletoe due to the head goddess Freya, Godwyn like all other demigods was thought to be completely immortal. Baldur was killed by a betrayal from fellow divine figure Loki using mistletoe, the only weapon that could harm him, Godwyn was killed by a betrayal from fellow demigod Ranni using the Black Knives, the only weapon known to kill demigods. Baldur's death is the first in the chain that results in Ragnarok, Godwyn's death triggers the Shattering. Baldur is said to eventually resurrect as the new god, Godwyn is mutated as the Prince of Death who can through the Tarnished become the dominant power.
It's frankly more impressive that you think they don't have much in common when what little we know of Baldur maps fairly simply onto Godwyn.
@@Firestorm6651 they're probably thinking about god of war
The first time I hugged Fia was at the exact moment the music in round table hold swelled, it sent melancholy goose bumps through my body and I still don’t think I’ve recovered.
A beautifully weird anomaly to find in a souls game.
Fia being fortissax is actually a really interesting and fun theory considering everything we know about the dragon cults and Godwyn's involvement with them.
I actually love the idea! But it does bring up some questions with her being one of the Tarnished mentioned in the intro cutscene…
However, Fortissax does have Fia in its name… 🤔
@@amplefyre yeah also lansseax being the sister of fortissax raises some more questions
@@amplefyre if a dragon could see the guidance of grace and then take the form of a tarnished then yeahhhh but I think it’s a bit of a reach but a fun idea
@@Alleywaycreamcup well lansseax took human form so if anything its a hint
@@colorpg152 that is true but fia never mentions any relatives she only ever talks about being forced to leave her home I feel like if the two were some how connected she would drop a hint or two about it. Besides all that the theory is so good I’m willing to just accept it as my own personal head cannon anyway
If no one mentioned this, it was more likely that the weathered dagger was Devins. It was said Devin, Darian's brother had seen the corpse of Godwyn. Darian does like us quite a bit and likely woulda said "oh, u found my dagger." But instead he said he knows who's it is. I'd imagine there was a time where Darian was the "lesser" brother, and Devin was the greater until his traumatization at realization of death being yk...a thing in the world now, and having seen the prince of death.
The dagger's description mentions the black withering on it. Devin used the dagger to cut the half wheelmark, the Mark of the Centipede, from Godwyn's flesh. That's why Fia says the first half was recovered from Roundtable Hold. She kills Darian with Deathblight and takes Godwyn's half of the mark back. That's why she also points you toward Rogier's quest. He's searching for the key that will lead to the other half, and thus to her being able to birth her mending rune, allowing Those Who Live In Death into the new order.
It's weird, because we never hear the perspective of those who live in death. The golden order claims that they are constantly suffering and only a proper death will give them peace, Fia instead, says that they need to be loved and accepted as part of the new order. When we meet them they attack us, but is it out of fear of persecution or are they really just mindless zombies? Regardless, this was the ending i first went with, i wanted to believe that Fia was right, but something about it never quite sat right with me.
You bring up some interesting points! I agree, I think it's interesting that Fia acts on behalf of the Those Who Live in Death (TWLID). BUT also Godwyn! Does Godwyn consent? Does he want to be rebirthed, in some fashion? I viewed it through the lense that they did. But if you start to consider if from a different angle, it can paint Fia as the villain. Keeping TWLID alive, not leaving them to rest could be a torturous fate.
Very thought-provoking stuff! Thanks for your comment :)
Godwyn... Is a body, I doubt Godwyn can consent to anything. Not that he'd need to, because Godwyn is for all intents and purposes an object. But the rest of TWLID... I am not sure. They have basic intelligence for sure. Sentience is debatable. It's really hard to tell when they are skeleton enemies in Dark Souls. Were they in a game with AI more focused on non interactions with the player character, we might have been able to study their behaviours, but with what we are given, it's a hard bargain to draw conclusions.
@@goncalocarneiro3043 strangely the only time ve ever talked with sutch a charakter was in DS2 with the pale guardian guy that despises light
If they suffer the same fate as Godwyn, they don't have a soul, there's no perspective from them because they aren't beings. They are just moving corpses.
Agreed. Life in death would be eternal, and as such no different from Marika's flawed order where no one is allowed to die.
So if I temporarily sacrifice 5% of my health, the pretty lady gives me a hug? Sure, I'm desperate enough to go for it.
Sometimes, I only logged on just to hug her.
One thing I would add is that when Fia is resting beside Godwyn's corpse waiting for you to bring her the second part of the rune of death, if you attack her she says:
"Godwyn... Is that you, dear?"
Then several skulls are launched from the body of Godwyn directly above Fia and aim at the player. It's not really dangerous and it's easily dodged. But this does have some VERY disturbing implications:
-This means that Fia can communicate directly with Godywn to some degree. Or Godwyn can communicate with her and therefore potentially others.
-Godwyn is sentient, aware and can interact with the living world, even to a violent degree.
-Godwyn likes/approves of Fia, since he tries to protect her.
-Godwyn is corrupting and spreading his will through the Erdtree/lands between on purpose. He probably has a plan/goal.
-Since he is aware of Fia/his corpses surroundings, it's possible this extends to all parts of himself (His corruption through the Erdtree roots) meaning he might be somewhat omnipresent.
If that's all correct, Godywn is terrifying.
The big issue is that Godwyn is only half dead in the worst possible way.
Ranni got the easy end of things with her body dying (no biggy she's basically the most powerful witch at the time of Elden Ring since Rennala's prime is long past) with her magic/overall power allowing her to posses the dolls she takes the form of
Godwyn's soul - what made him Godwyn, his personality and sense of morality - is gone forever. What's left behind is the body of a demigod that's literally *gone hollow*. His burial at the base of the erdtree was BIG oopsy as all the deathroot and eye-trees and crabs with his face on the back are his doing. He is the first undead - a being held aloft by nothing but his own body. HE'S BASICALLY NITO BUT AT LEAST NITO HAS A SOUL
The Lichdragon Fortissax boss fight is cool and all, but I feel cheated out of a monster Godwyn boss fight. How do you design this amazing abomination, plunk it down at the end of this massive optional area, and not make it the final boss of her quest line?
Doesn't it also imply that she associates being attacked/hurt with Godwyn? She thought we were him...meaning it's not the first time he has hurt her.
Godwyns plan is not a goal! He was forced to die and now painfully live !
@@miomio6890 um no
Fia, the only NPC who provides us all with the one thing we all require: to be held.
Also a special shoutout to Fortissax the Loyal, who stayed with his friend till the end.
That was a very interesting take, especially the part that Fia could be a dragon in disguise. This brings up some interesting questions.
1. What's Fia's relationship with Destined Death and Farum Azula?
Is Farum Azula the land she was driven out from?
In Farum Azula we find the Wormface, who cursed you with death.
The Dragons are in Farum Azula
This is where Maliketh is found, protecting the remaining part of the rune of death.
🤔🤔
I love the theory that Fia is Fortissax, I've never heard that idea put forth by anyone else and it makes perfect sense to me. Thank you for this incredible video and the equally wonderful cosplay!
I'd love to hear more detail on your theory, what has led to you thinking that? 🙂
@@vooligan9499 When you kill him she dies.
@@vooligan9499
1. Letters match in their names, and names tend to be clues in Elden Ring
2. Both are called companions of Godwyn
3. Devotion to Godwyn
4. Dragons can take human form
5. Tarnished don't have to be human (Goldmask)
6. Godrick calls a dragon 'kindred' which may be literal. Might be a descendant of Marika through Godwyn and a dragon
7. Cult of the Dragon thriving despite most other Golden Order enemies being subject to genocide
8. If you hit Fia, she calls Godwyn 'my dear' instead of master or Lord. It seems more familiar, like she once knew him
@@Trotsworth Further to the naming point, Fia is in FortIssAx and the letters afterward do a count down F-3-I-2-A-1. Since as you said that she dies as Fortissax dies, it could be dev poetic license that as you see the name for the first and the last time you're counting down till the end of her life and the completion of her goals. Just another theory but yeah.
If that's the case then Fia has contraditory motivations.
Broo the cosplay is really cool but I also like the lore being explained. Your voice is also really soft and quiet, pretty good asmr if you ask me
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm really glad you enjoyed all facets of my videos :)
I don't actually think it was Darian that removed the cursemark - I think it was Devin. Darian mentions that he knows who the blade belongs to, not that it's *his* . Also, Devin is resting in the underground, and I can't remember where it was said, but something (I believe an item description, or dialogue, or something) says that he supposedly lost his mind after witnessing the Prince of Death. That means Devin, also a hunter of Those Who Live In Death, has at one point been in the presence of Godwyn's corpse. I believe Devin is the one who found Godwyn, shattered his own dagger removing the cursemark from Godwyn's body, and then ended up in Siofra after going mad. Darian, of course, is not going to amicable towarsa Fia, but I don't think he was the owner of the dagger. I think Fia was removing the last threat, Devin's twin brother, who would almost certainly attempt the same thing. Devin has already gone mad, and without the Tarnished's interference, will simply sit in the aqueducts and do nothing. He is not a threat anymore. Darian still is, so Fia must get rid of him.
Sorry I can't hold it back any longer... this video of yours is still my favourite! I love to just listen to you bringing me all great memories I have for my one and only, Fia. Thank you so much.
As a fellow Fia simp, I think you are going a little overboard with the simping.
@@AutismGaming489 Should I delete my comment then?
@@ekosandvic7598 I don’t know. Up to you. Btw, she only sees you as a friend.
@@AutismGaming489 Who?
@@ekosandvic7598 Both.
The Rogier theory where he’s dead makes a lot of sense. If you go into Stormveil castle to the bottom where you fight the ulcerated tree spirit there is a blood stain. It’s Rogier getting death blighted. There is a dialogue option for it when you talk to Rogier if you find it.
I remember seeing that, and thinking it was so odd! I knew next to nothing about the game, its narrative or its systems at that point, but I knew right away I saw Rogier dying in that spot.
07:36 omg thank you for putting the Golden Centipede and Cursemark side by side. Just a little thang with great power.
I spent the whole of my playthrough up until near the very end rejecting her hugs because I had suspicions about her. But then I finally concede to her offer of a hug, and after all the agony of the game at that point as soon as she gently said “You are very warm!” I literally burst into tears! The hug is just as much for the player! 😭
Dude I felt this one so hard ngl just got dumped and needed that hug 😂
@@Someguywithalotoftism Gamers can now expireience hugs, truly one of the games of all time.
Lol.. I'm reading this and just now realizing she usually hugs dying bodies which are probably a lot colder
@@michaelwerkov3438 Oh my god 😂
@@legendgamer676 you have serious trust issues 😂
I’m really happy how slow paced you were, it made me understand everything a lot better than other videos.
Your voice is so gentle, really nice to hear your lore/theory videos.
20:22 Lately I’ve been playing with the idea that the eclipse is the origin of Destined Death. If you look at the Eclipse Shotel, it bears a striking resemblance to the halfwheel cursemark found on Ranni’s and Godwyn’s corpses. It’s only when you bring them together and brandish the Elden ring that the eclipse finally happens and returns the principle of Death back into the Lands Between(Duskborn Ending).
Destined Death is a Rune, part of the elden ring that was removed and stored elswhere. Thats where it comes from.
@@dgalloway107 you’re a rune.
IIRC, Castle Sol and it’s followers believed that the coming of the eclipse would grant Godwyn a true death or would revive him, which is why the shotel looks similar to the cursebrand. Miquella is mixed in the Castle Sol/ eclipse lore too, and there’s the Golden Epitaph sword description as well. Kinda lends itself to Miquella seeking a true death for Godwyn
@@DredgenAand then Miquella got lost in the sauce and followed the same steps as [REDACTED]
@@ChargeQM yeah, not sure why they went that direction
Your voice is so soft and calming and comforting! Whenever I don't see your videos for a while and come check them out again I have to get used to it at first, it really calms the anxiety and everything that builds up during everyday life! 😊
it's a shame Fia's quest doesn't get a unique ending
i really don't get the reason of the palette swap endings
The same thing that happens to every fromsoft game near the end
@sabineschmidt762 their endings are the only good parts about the final acts, some of the only games i think have satisfying endings are fromsoft games, but they all have the same similar feeling towards the end i know other rpgs do it like act 3 in bg3 isnt as good as 1 n 2 but its still a lot more fleshed out and wasnt as rushed as say, farum azula or the bed of chaos
@sabineschmidt762my initial point was that all fromsoft games still end in mostly palette swaps
@@grantpowers663 Really the only distinct endings here are the bloodborne great old one ending and the lord of hollows ending in ds3 because they actually require you to follow an additional path, infact elden rings palette swap endings require far more different circumstances throughout the game then any other fromsoft ending. And yes, i'm comparing farum azula to the bed of chaos. Maybe it feels weird teleporting for seemingly no reason from what was one big interconnected area to an atomized area seperate completely on its own, with the lowest enemy variety in the entire game - beastmen, banished knights we've been fighting the entire game, and a Lansseax clone. Truly pushing the envelope
That is a bummer,
frenzy flame & Ranni endings get unique cinematics.
As for the default, Golden order, dung eater & Fias ending?: you sit on the throne with diffrent filters. Done
I never thought of this, but it makes sense that Fortissax would assume the form of Fia since the death of Godwyn
IMHO, this is the best presentation on Fia. You covered everything I knew plus a lot more! The theory on Fortissax being Fia is really compelling. I agreenwith you that Fia's ending might be one of the most moral. Great work. 👍
I don't know if it's intentional, but I love how your demeanor and voice is soothing like Fia.
love the cosplay, Loved the lore video. thank you and your voice is so soothing. Keep up the great work!
This is the 2nd of your videos I've watched, Miss Chalice, and I feel compelled to say: You are absolutely delightful. A breath of fresh air for the platform. I'd like to highlight my favorite aspects of your work:
- Looking different and interesting every time is such a fun thing for us as viewers
- Your vocal tone is excellent, soft and clear
- Your narration is very well written
- Your lore is consistently thorough and I'm thus far always surprised by things I hadn't known already
I am subbing, and excited to see you succeed if you keep this up.
It is an interesting idea that Rogier jn the Hold is a spirit, though I am suspecting he might be some kind of inbetween of Those Who Live in Death and actually dead, as he does have a bloodstain at the bottom of Stormveil where we see Rogier getting killed by deathblight, yet here he is in the Hold.
So either he is indeed in this “deathspirit” form or deathblight itself doesn’t necessarily mean death as a regular death, but rather as death to join Those Who Live in Death, or maybe if you experience deathblight enough it takes you, kind of like the hollowing from the Souls games.
Very curious.
yeah, never noticed the bloodstain until playing the coop mod with friends. blew my mind lol
Not shitting on your comment, jus have a genuine question.
How do we know it is supposed to be Rogier? And not just a player wearing his outfit?
Like is it labeled as Rogier?
@@collinsims2413 There are a few things.
First is that that is the only single bloodstain that appears there when you're offline, meaning you can't see any player bloodstains at all, just the developer placed ones.
Second the bloodstain is specifically a death animation of a player model dying from Deathblight and that area does not have any enemies or effects that cause Deathblight buildup.
Third is Rogier's dialogue option "progresses" only once you interact with the bloodstain, indicating that you "found" the face below the castle, which will trigger his dialogue to discuss it.
Hope that clears it up!
@@Lexsed ahh, didnt even think about seeing the bloodstain while offline, or the dialogue progression, and i never actually went down there so i wasnt aware there werent any basilisk or wormface down there.
Thanks for the clarification.
Amazing video! I was actually very sympathetic to Fia. It was actually the ending I chose in my first playthrough. To think that she may be Fortissax in human form, is a great theory. I always wondered why we enter her dream and find a dragon. Keep up the great work!
You do realize her ending is just like Dung Eater's right ? The only difference is that instead of everyone being Omens everyone will be undead instead
Love Fia and the intrigue she brings, along with the poetic symbolism entwined in her quest line. 10/10, would hug again.
That theory of Fia actually being Fortissax is pretty awesome lol. Woulda never put that together.
It's pretty wild but most likely not true. There are many holes in the theory! But it's fun to think about :)
Me finding out D killed Fia: your free trial of playing knight has ended
Me: good job
As someone who went with the Fia ending in my first playthrough due to how interesting I found her quests + dialogue, I really liked this video.
Thanks for keeping the content coming! Your cosplays are always so entertaining and well done, and your voice is smooth as silk. Love hearing your insight into the lore of the game. Please, keep these videos coming!
This was a super cool vid, I finished my NG+ run with the Duskborn ending, and it was a really interesting set of quests and battles. I love the idea that Fia is the companion within the deathbed dream, I never even thought about the fact they could take on the appearance of humans. :D
Keep up the great work!
I would love to see a Lady Maria (Bloodborne, The Old Hunters) loreplay in the future! Considering your username has chalice in it and the chalice dungeons Bloodborne is well known for, I think expanding into Bloodborne lore would be very fitting.
I suggest Maria now because she has a profoundly sympathetic background, which seems to be your area of greatest interest!
Excellent content all around; excited to see an up-and-coming lore creator with such evident passion as your cosplays.
This video couldn't have come at a better time, I just finished my 2nd playthru with her ending! I had...always wondered if her intentions were selfish or selfless...but after watching this I definitely feel it was more of the latter. Thank you for making this lore video and for the other ones you've made so far!! They really help open my eyes to the inner workings of the story. ^-^
I like that everyone brings something unique to the mix. Now we need to get Vaati to do a "let me solo her" cosplay
Just here to say that this is beautiful content, and thank you for your work. I look forward to what you’ll do when the DLC comes out. Glad I found this channel. ✊🏿
Fia’s cuddles drove me to reach the Duskborn ending. Also, are those Classical Greek patterns I see on your robes??? Pretty Cosplay!
I loved Fia as a character and I really like her reasoning for everything, she seems to be one of the most morally sound people in the lands between. She wants all life to be equal and shown respect including those who live in death. I like her ending because of her story it's very interesting to me.
Morally sound ? i think you got tricked by her demeanor and this vdieo, what she wants is a zombified world. Her ending is similar to Dung Eater's
@@amai-w8f I think it's meant to be open to interpretation but I'm leaning towards her ending not being bad. The mending rune that Fia gives you says "The Golden Order was created by confining destined death (the rune of death). Thus, this new order will be one of death restored." This implies that the mending rune will simply restore the rune of death. But also Fia saying she wished to be mother to those who live in death and then "birthing" the mending rune could imply that the rune creates more zombies so I don't really know
@@furni2686 Death to the Lands Between gets brought back regardless when we defeat Maliketh, that's the whole reason why we can even burn the Erdtree and kill the Elden Beast. The Mending Rune of Death actually just rewrites the fact that being dead is the end of your life, in other words, being undead now is completely normal so everyone in the Lands Between ends up like those Tibia Mariners when they die and eventually everyone will be in a state of un(death). That's why it is called the age of the "Duskborn", where your "life" starts after you are dead.
Fia talks about resurrecting Godwyn but she doesn't want him to change one bit, he is her Prince of Death after all, what Fia means is that the state he currently is should be officially made normal and not something to be hunted or removed from the order... I would only rank the Frenzied Flame as more evil than this one. The most neutral end would be either the Age of Stars where Ranni simply removes the order from the LB and leaves people there to fend for themselves (similar to our world) and the Age of Order where Goldmask makes so that the gods chosen by the Greater Will can't mend with the order anymore (but still bad because the Greater Will persecuted certain races by itself without the need of any God meddling with it.
@@furni2686 He's right. Death is already restored when the rune of death is released. The norm in Elden Ring is that when someone dies their soul goes to the Erdtree and they're birthed anew. What Fias ending does is make living in death the norm. Deathroot spreads everywhere including the Erdtree, which is why there are scenes of decay shown in the ending, everything is grey and foggy, everyone is a skeleton basically.
Fia is a traumatised individual with a very warped sense of morality who identifies more with the dead than the living. She's actually very creepy when you start to understand her. Her use of puppets (that she calls champions) makes her no more moral than Seluvis.
@@TheSm1thers this was interesting to read! i was definitely leaning more on Fia being lawful good until this. one thing I appreciate about ER's characters is that they are all multifaceted.
fia is my favorite character and too many people hate her or write her off as evil - i never understood it, her narrative always seemed so clearly to be about choice and standing up for those who had none; the ritual-sexual aspects of her character felt like a believable kind of death rite in the world, never something she chose or something based around deceit or trickery. (not to mention that she explains in her first dialogue the nature of what she does re: taking a little vigor in exchange for the ability to ignore pain (poise); in terms of gameplay mechanics, it all translates perfectly within the lore.) thank you for such a beautiful and well-explained analysis of this character!
This is a crazy good lore video. There’s a lot of information I missed in the game and haven’t seen presented elsewhere. Thank you.
I really enjoyed this. I felt the story leaned this way myself though not as in-depth as this. It nice to get the details I missed and put the whole story together.
I've watched probably hundreds of hours of Elden Ring lore at this point...and this was the first I've heard of Fia being Fortissax. And I love it!
Your vid popped up in my suggestions: 10/10 cosplay, 10/10 lore, great quality length, sub earned 👍🏾
Oh miss chalice I have been missing your elden ring lore videos very much! So glad you graced us with another excellent exploration/examination of the ever mysterious world that is elden ring! Thank you!! And love your outfits by the way! Wishing you the best!! :)
I absolutely love how Elden Ring follows Norse Mythology point for point. It's so amazing to have my Heritage represented in such an accurate and respectful manner while also having a completely original story.
This is a great explanation of Fia. Also, you voice is incredibly soothing. It helped me cope with my.. numerous deaths in Elden Ring. 😝
That epiphany!!! Fortisaxx = Fia. Is an absolute bombshell! Including the (exile) portion. As we know the dragons attacked Leyndel.
This is amazing insight. Thank you!
My only issue with that theory is that Fia is Tarnished meaning she was banished from the lands between long before the Night of Black Knives while the Remembrance of Fortissaxx implies that Fortissaxx has been fighting the curse of death within Godwyn since the Night Black knives becoming corrupted in the failed attempt.
This is the first video I've seen from you and it's so well done! I love the way you've gone about the narrative and explained it. Keep up the amazing work!
I kept struggling in this video, between paying full attention to the lore and exciting theories, and falling asleep to your soft voice. Great video, great cosplay, great (even if not intentional) asmr, please keep posting!
Happy one year anniversary of this video being up! Fia is my favorite character and you have did her character justice. She is best girl and waifu!
Chalice's blessing. Gentlly spoken words hug your ears, granting a tingling effect, adds sleep effect. 😛
I kind of assumed as a deathbed companion that leads to peaceful death in a way, Fia wanted to help the undead pass on to death peacefully. Instead of being hunted having the opportunity to die on their own terms. So bringing death back to Lands Between would bring them peace. That's my interpretation at least.
I must say I do enjoy the contrast between these well-thought-out, sophisticated long form asmr type videos and the lude memes on instagram and stuff, embracing all facets of human life, or something
My mind was blown by that theory of Fia being Fortissax
I just can't believe how can the creators come up with such an intertwined and complex lore. Love your content!
Always happy when you post, your ideos are blessed. Really love them and all the work you put into the research, the visuals and the cosplay.
That was an excellent video. It was very informative. I finished Dark Souls 3 a month before finishing Elden Ring with different endings, including the one from your video and I did notice a similarity between that Elden Ring ending and the Third Dark Souls 3 : The Usurpation of Fire, You know that ending where you had to go perform a wedding ceremony with Anri male or Anri female ( depending on the gamer's gender ) and you become the new Ruler and Lord of Hollows( The Undead) in Londor where the Undead can roam free. Gotta love FromSoftware's references to their previous games.
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The eeriness and echoing of Rogier's voice reminds me of the voice effects in ShadowMan.
Both amazing games.
The weathered dagger I think belonged to d’s brother who once stood at godwin the goldens corpse, and when you give the dagger to d, he said that he knows who’s dagger it is
Great video, you are so thorough and explained some stuff I didn't understand! I always thought the age of the duskborn is one where destined death and reincarnation are both gone and instead people become zombies after death.
Your telling of this story was thrilling. I now need to being a new playthrough
Excellent work. I really enjoyed the connection between Fia and the Lich Dragon and think you may be onto something there.
Interesting, I think one of the other things about Godwin is that his influence extends into the lands between and curiously in the DLC?
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Wait, this format is kinda cool. Explaining lore while in cosplay is unique and fun.
Looking through lore videos. Your voice caught my attention. Its very soothing
Yo, what a vid. Just stumbled upon this channel (praise be the algorithm) and honestly, the amount of thought you put into your vid(s) is staggering. Although some people obviously already pointed out certain things that could be interpreted differently from other angles.
What gets me though is how weird the whole concept of "living in death" is. From what we know, nothing in the Lands Between CAN actually die as of the game's time - since the Rune of Death is bound up until the very end of the game. That Rune is what allowed Ranni to get herself and Godwyn killed. I take it to mean that (for gameplay purposes or not) this means none of the characters who die in the game can actually stay dead properly.
From that I assume living in death means that the undead just exist as shambling corpses with no soul attached to themselves? Or is it the various states of decay that mark those Living in Death? All that I know it CAN'T be is that the body is dead and the soul is off doing its own thing. That's what Ranni did to herself, and her body is still very cozy locked away in death. Then again, that might also be due to her body having the rune inscribed still. Is it maybe any combination of spiritual and physical death that leads to "living in death"? Also, why does Fia count herself among them?
Your voice is so relaxing. Thank you for explaining her lore.
It struck me right now, the mending rune of the death prince resembles an eclipse, like the one depicted on the mausoleum soldiers shields and armors
A gift from the lore mommy has blessed us in these hard times!
lore blessings for all!
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The lichdragon is one of my favourite bosses in the game. On a slightly unrelated note, I saw a theory somewhere noticing how the texture of malikeths black blade, is similar to the skin of fortissax, that Being black with speckles/dustings of gold.
When you attack fia, death rancor comes out and she asks if it’s her dear godwyn
I have to say that I love this video so much. The way you weave the convoluted story of this character in an easy-to-understand, but at the same time, exciting narrative was terrific.
That said, I can't entirely agree with your interpretation of her story on several points. Being a fromsoft game, it is unlikely that two people will have the same views over anything lore-wise. So please don't take this as a harsh criticism, but just a different interpretation of one of my favorite characters in Elden Ring:
- I think Baldachin's Blessing is given only when Fia saps life energy from you. This will have two uses. First, if you are strong enough, this will give you the incentive to be sapped. Second, if you are dying, this could be seen as a mercy kill, and the blessing could take away your pain in the process.
- I don't think those who live within death only appear with the death of Godwyn. Before the eldtree, other beings (outer gods perhaps?) were related to life in death. The Death Bird, for example, as seen in the Death Ritual Spear (The priests became guardians of the birds through the rite of Death, which also serves as an oath sworn to their distant resurrection) or the Regal Ancestor Spirit as seen in Ancestral Spirit's Horn(A number of new growths bud from the antler-like horns of the fallen king, each glowing with light. Thus does new life grow from death, and from death, one obtains power). My point is that deathroot is not the original source of life within death, but just the biggest one in recent times.
- I don't think their champions are living within death. The way they act reminds me more of spirit ashes than anything else. And I think they are just that, spirits being summoned not through ashes but by a similar process, a deathbed companion technique that we can't learn.
- I don't think Fortissax is trying to protect Godwyn from Fia. Fortissax was trying to fight the corruption within his friend, to give him a true death or to save him. I think this because we saw a finger-reading saying, "Poor Golden Prince, why couldn't you have a true death?." This is probably what most of the Golden Order thought, and the dragons were aligned with the Golden Order. At the point of Fia's arrival, Fortissax is just crazy and corrupted himself, so he just attacks everything on sight.
- I don't believe that Fia is Fortissax due to translation into other languages. At least the argument where you said it is not said to be a male anywhere. In Spanish, it stays as a male dragon. Maybe this is just a translation oversight.
- Related to symbology, I love the comparison of the Mending Rune and the Yin-Yang. But I would like to add the Fia similarities to the "Whore of Babylon". From reddit user u/Depressed_Tapeworm:
"Fia is imo one big Whore of Babylon reference. The Whore of Babylon is described as a woman sitting atop a blasphemous beast (reference to Godwyn potentially) and described as the 'mother of Earth's abominations' which is pretty much what those who live in death are considered to be by the Golden Order and Fia has explicitly stated that she wants to be a mother to those who live in death. She seduces you and others into following this same route. Babylon itself is often used as metaphor for a world that's strayed from God's path and seduces those who live in it towards a blasphemous one, which is pretty apt for Fia and imo her world post-ending compared to the Golden Order's ideals. It's loose, but Elden Ring's not been shy about making some religious references like Rykard's entire blasphemous imagery and everything related to him and Mohg's very on-the-nose satanic imagery."
- I think the ending has more impact than just accepting those who live within death in society. Fia considers those who live within death weak and deserve protection and help. Clearly, she wants to revive Godwyn, which means that she doesn't consider a body without a soul to be truly alive, or at least, alive in the best possible way. So I think the Mending Rune of Death "it will embed the principle of life within Death into Order" means something more. It means that life within death will be the new standard for a deceased soul, but they won't turn into the zombie-like enemies we meet in the game. The Duskborn will be something different, something new to the lands between.
I would love to hear your opinion on these points, and again, even with all the points I disagree with, I genuinely love your video!
I believe the dagger given by Fia is actually D's brothers (Devin also known as D) Which is why he recognizes it and says he will return it to it's owner, You're given a note by Rogier after he dies that D has a brother and he's in the aqueducts after having fought 'The Prince Of Death' which is the 'undead' Godwyn. This explains why the sword/dagger is damaged and cursed by death.
You can talk to D's brother and give him D's armour at some part before defeating Fortissax. When you reload the area after defeating Fortissax he will be standing over Fia's body in D's armour then if you reload the area again you can get D's armour (Again) and also the Twinsword known as the Inseparable Sword.
Looking at the description of D's Armour you will find that the two D brothers were 'inseparable' because they share a soul, two minds, two bodies, one soul. After avenging his brothers death Devin states he wishes to be taken so he can be with his brother.
I don't believe Fia is Fortissax as it is said that because the soul of Godwyn lived on he couldn't truely die and became the prince of death many tried to put him to rest including Fortissax with no success and was corrupted by the prince of death becoming a Lichdragon. "He" Is also reffered to as "the Mightiest Boulderstone, and the brother of Lansseax" at some point. So the reason he is in the dream is because he tried to put Godwyn to rest.
Story telling is amazing! Me and my daughter watch this
First video of yours I’ve watched and your voice is extremely calming
Fia being Fortissax is a cool potentiality. And by the immediate events, they practically tell vanquishing Fortissax and Fia's death afterwards is connected.
Welcome back to who may be my favorite voice on youtube.
What I'm most impressed by was Fia being able to bypass the protection offered by the Roundtable Hold.
On my first playthrough I haphazardly missed/botched her questline. Most of its events just "happened" to me as I was distracted by so much else going on in the game/story. I fought her champions by accident, and even missed SEEING Godwyn entirely (he's somewhat camouflaged, right?)! Then I found out she was connected to an ending, so in my second playthrough I have been sticking close to her. Her questline and story is amazing. It's deep, emotional, well-planned out... it's a shame it is so easily overlooked.
Great video, you've hit some amazing points here.
On top of all the other stuff people are singing your praises for I just wanna say I find your videos really clear an easy to follow.
19:25 I love this as a concept and I think there is a lot of potential with dragons posing as humans but I thought it was fairly clear that Fia is a tarnished.
Beautifully written. My character followed Fia's questline, and had chosen her as his desired end. But somewhere along the line he stumbled and D's apprentice was able to slay her. Mourning her death and his inability to protect FIa, my character wore her hood, became Elden Lord, and burned the world. Such an amazing game.
So I have mixed feelings and ideas about this. On one hand you did an amazing job at telling this story, and the insight into Fortissaxx potentially being Fia is something I hadn't considered before.
On the other hand, while I do think Fia's intentions are noble, and quite frankly, those I would get behind, I don't think that it fully explains what's going on here. There are...other connections that the two Ds and Fia have with those who live in death, and I don't think they take anything away from your theories, but may add to them, or might make a complete picture.
Sorry for being vague, I'm currently working on a script for theories as well. Excellent job on this, I really enjoyed it!
Your voice definitely needs to be in a Fromsoft game. Love your delivery and the way you present the lore. It’s very refreshing. Well done!
Nice, just an hour ago I was thinking I haven't heard from you in a while and then this! Godwyn related contents are my favorite!
This is my first time seeing one of your lore videos and I'm just amazed. You are darling. Makes me love the game all the more. Thank you for sharing this!
this made me feel better while ill. thank you my love
In the southern part of Summonwater town in Limgrave, you can find two skeletons actually having a conversation.
I guess this might suggest that Those who live in death might be self-aware? Some of them at least.
I am finally playing Elden Ring after putting it off for a while. Watching your videos makes me realize that I missed so much 😂. NG+ babyyyy!!!! Great contact though! Your voice is so soothing and you explain the lore very well! 😁
Watching over the video after a few others were recommended and decided to give it a viewing. Not at all bad for lore purposes, and definitely a good listen. Probably will have to watch a few others and see just how good of a job you've done. Love the cosplay of the 3 I have seen in my feed so far, and enjoy the more hushed style to these (if it persists in the others, unless you're doing it softly as Fia would, but all the same, very good). TL;DR at the bottom.
I wanted to point out a few things that some of the comments spoke of, but also some points mentioned by yourself (both in video and the comments). For example, the current top comment, you mention Lionel potentially sleeping with Fia. I felt Rogier and potentially other such, "champions," other player characters by the basic summoning system technically for the fight, most definitely did. But, Lionel? You can see it in the way of the corpse you pick up the items from, slouched in on itself on the bedside, not laying down, or any of the sort. You could argue a different form, but I feel like the descriptions of the gear for both Fia and Lionel, along with Fia's own Dialogue what their lives were like, or in the case of Lionel, what their relationship was. It felt more like the protective, caring form, similar to how we receive hugs - and yes, it could absolutely be a direct parallel to sleeping with her, as the comments say... but it directly states that he's a chivalrous, dauntless knight. Wording and phrasing not too uncommon in descriptions of other kind and caring more rotund companions within the Dark Souls franchise - Siegmeyer is best Onion bro, fight me.
We know of their character, we know of how they act, and though Lionel is not shown outside of his interactions with the player in 3 parts - Radahn Festival as a Companion Summon, his Armour Set in the Capital, and lastly, in Combat when called upon to protect Fia - we do know through those light descriptions, that the man is... was, a more noble soul. It would only makes sense if he too, was upset by how this poor, weakened soul had thus lost her home... and took her in. I believe in the same way that we receive our contact through hugging, so too, did he. Even if it's more of an embrace than a hug, I do not believe it to have been laying with.
Now, additionally, as a note to tie into that, and the point I did not hear mentioned as far as I am currently in the video - and I will go back and edit this should you mention it, but - and this is me barely remembering after 500+ hours of PvP, multiple character playthroughs, and bashing my head against Fire Giant with a Pure Fire Build - at some point, it's mentioned that Fia is most likely chased out, as she was brought back from Death as a Tarnished - as all others were (Gideon, Dungeater, etc), as we see for each of them, their death and technical undeath as they return. Her duty to birth a child for a noble, which we see in her introduction, is RUINED, as she is returned to life, losing her purpose as a Death Bed Companion, having lost the Vitality she had taken upon herself upon her revival - which is also why it is implied, that upon birthing the Rune of Death, she passes away, though D (who we know is both Darian and Devin, as they are "One soul," (Item description of the chestpiece, "The two known as D are inseparable twins. They are of two bodies and two minds, but one single soul. Not once do they stand together; not one word do they speak to one another," all items describing exactly this matter, more or less in similar detail) can and will come and murder her corpse similarly to another Soulsborne Game, should you "return" his armour to Devin. We do also know they are one in the same, as if YOU kill him and return the armour, even should you "cleanse your sins" with the Absolution Mechanic, he will still be Aggro and instantly attack you upon sight. Where as, you may speak with "D" after he "kills" Fia (again, more like just butchers the body), afterwards as if to get revenge, but will not be hostile towards you... and then promptly dies himself, leaving you his gear (again), and his weapon this time.
Do keep in mind, my mind is FRIED with all the Soulsborne game lore, so who knows, maybe half of what I said is a fever dream, and I'm just chasing St. Trina. All the same though, a lot of what we have is given directly to us, but others like Lionel are just out there, entirely up to interpretation. I'd love to see more of a connecting story for this, as only going over the Single side (even though there is a very obvious Ranni cosplay and video glaring at me right now, next to a Goldmask too) does hide or shift a lot of the important information that could tell people a bit more. Like why Ranni did what she had.
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I think Lionel is Chivalrous Onion Bro, actual Fatherly Love, nothing more cuz Items and Onion Bro.
Fia was kicked out due to failing her duties as a Death Bed Companion, it's stated like twice by characters at some point.
D(arian) and D(evin) are two bodies and minds, but 1 soul. You can find it by the way it works and how they (Devin), speak to/of the other upon Quest Completion.
And I JUST, did the Age Of Duskborn ending!!!
It's definitely become my new favorite ending after rereading through the lines!!!
Love the cosplay btw ❤
Your voice is so calming and relaxing it helps me sleep 🥰
You do realize her ending is just like Dung Eater's right ? The only difference is that instead of everyone being Omens everyone will be undead instead
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Not true
1.) You get the rune from Fia by literally hugging her, whereas you have to literally violate the Dung Eater with a magical STD not once or even twice, but 5 freaking times until his corpse produces it.
2.) Dung Eater is also a madman with no reason behind what he does, he turns people into monsters while Fia has good intent and logic in her motives. She wants to help Godwyn who we all can agree is a good dude we *want* to help if we can.
3.) Fia's ending simply restores the natural cycle of life and death it has nothing to do nor does it say anything about her ending turning everyone into an undead, it mainly says Those Who Live In Death are accepted among the living.
@@thewhitespectre 1) & 20 are moot points, all i meant is the ending goal not how the questline happens.
3) Destined death is already returned back to the lands between when you kill Maliketh, as it is unbound from him/the sword. this means people can truly die again but doesn't replace the Golden Order and all the nonsense with rebirth the Erdtree can do.
The Mending Rune of the Death-Prince used to repair the Elden Ring lets you create a new Order with life and death at its roots as Elden Lord and this cuts the Erdtree out of the picture when it comes to life and death and removes the possibility of Rebirth.
What that means to Fia that instead of being born anew you simply keep on living after you die, she wants a world where everyone is just like Godwyn and her "bringing him back to life" is simply making it okay for him to be the way he is, nothing changes.
It's called the Age of the DUSKBORN for a reason, as in you start to "live" when you die.
Really great video! This explains so much, and the voice is very soothing to listen to, subscribed.
I love the fia and Forti connection you're speculating.
Idk how I stumbled across this video but I'm glad I did. Fia has been one of my favourites since release. Great video, You just got a new subscriber.
A lore vid has never been that beautiful before