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  • @goldh2o543
    @goldh2o543 29 днів тому +570

    So the story behind this is that the announcer was not given cue cards with the names on them, she was given cards with phonetics instead, but she herself wasn't told they were phonetics. So, for example, instead of "Victoria Elizabeth Bruce", her card read "Vick tory uh E-lih-zu-bith bruh-ce"
    They gave her these without showing her the ACTUAL names too, so she had to figure out the correct spelling herself cause the phonetics were fucked up too. I feel so bad because now the Internet is clowning on her when the school did this.

    • @mage1439
      @mage1439 29 днів тому +112

      That's incredibly dumb of the school, but also how is "bruh-ce" phonetic?

    • @YoutubeChannel-rg2sb
      @YoutubeChannel-rg2sb 29 днів тому +52

      She had to be set up

    • @irishlad420
      @irishlad420 29 днів тому

      That's still no excuse for this lol that lady is dumb af.

    • @ugandahater
      @ugandahater 29 днів тому +11

      Stop trying to justify donkey kong behavior

    • @twistedmaidn
      @twistedmaidn 29 днів тому +26

      If it was like our graduation the graduates were the ones that had to fill out the phonetics. So it was probably all over the place on that end too cause you just had to try and figure out how your name was written phonetically by just sounding it out. Two people could have two completely different phonetic ways for the same exact name

  • @ethanhart129
    @ethanhart129 29 днів тому +378

    I’m shocked she couldn’t pronounce Thomas, the name of the school is Thomas Jefferson University

    • @gonzoshots4691
      @gonzoshots4691 29 днів тому +11

      dude i died

    • @brookelynnwu8016
      @brookelynnwu8016 29 днів тому +4

      I really hope this is valedictorian, bc that would be bad on the whole school. 💀😂

    • @woop6078
      @woop6078 29 днів тому +3

      Foreigners

    • @FloopyNupers
      @FloopyNupers 28 днів тому +1

      Right

    • @Ss4Goten
      @Ss4Goten 28 днів тому +3

      I would fuck up too, if I got given the names written phonetically.

  • @Ark_Strike
    @Ark_Strike 28 днів тому +52

    A lot of people were saying this "ruined their graduation ceremony" but I think most of these students will have fond memories of this lmao

  • @ManicxManiac
    @ManicxManiac 29 днів тому +155

    This reminds me so much of the Key and Peele skit

    • @themprsndev
      @themprsndev 29 днів тому +8

      My exact first thought haha

    • @ZoroTheSamurai
      @ZoroTheSamurai 29 днів тому +17

      BALAKE

    • @kylebarnette8277
      @kylebarnette8277 29 днів тому +6

      Thank you, I knew I wasn't the only one wondering if the announcer was "Substitute Garvey" wife or sister 😂😂

    • @johnconnor2572
      @johnconnor2572 28 днів тому +6

      A-A-ron, is there an A-A-ron present?

    • @lucas33308
      @lucas33308 28 днів тому +3

      Deenice

  • @vdawgv
    @vdawgv 29 днів тому +34

    Unironically pulling an A-A-Ron

  • @rocwolfe2674
    @rocwolfe2674 29 днів тому +64

    The part with Allison sounded like Allisoona because the "na" was part of nicole. if you listen closely you only hear "cole" after you hear "Allisoona" but the announcer for some reason takes a brief pause between "na" and "cole"

    • @lobsterskunk9237
      @lobsterskunk9237 28 днів тому +4

      @@_._._._._._._._._._._._._._... in the phonetics the "na" in nicole tripped her up making it look like one word on the paper so she read it as allisoona, it was probably written as [AL] + [I] + [SUHN] + [NUH] + [KOHL] which can easily be read as allisoona cole

    • @nevadanate4957
      @nevadanate4957 28 днів тому +3

      @@lobsterskunk9237 Is that really how phonetics are written? That would totally throw me off and make me say names wrong. Nuhcole is not going to sound like Nicole is supposed to

    • @lobsterskunk9237
      @lobsterskunk9237 28 днів тому +4

      @@nevadanate4957 yeah mishap on my part with my accent i'd say it nuh kohl but the proper pronunciation is [NI] + [KOL]

    • @nevadanate4957
      @nevadanate4957 28 днів тому +3

      @@lobsterskunk9237 that's fair, maybe some people would read NUH KOHL correctly as Nicole. This is why we need to rely on standardized phonetics instead of whatever the hell happened at this graduation lol

    • @lobsterskunk9237
      @lobsterskunk9237 28 днів тому +4

      @@nevadanate4957 lol I agree

  • @chaocrawl
    @chaocrawl 29 днів тому +35

    WHY DID NO ONE STOP HER AFTER THE FIRST ONE

  • @Vancev99x
    @Vancev99x 29 днів тому +49

    Oh they did her dirty. At first she sounded like she was having a full on stroke the way she pronounced Elizabeth. But good lord! 😂

  • @TheScavv
    @TheScavv 28 днів тому +33

    Okay so she was supposedly given a phonetic spelling of each name which ended up making them harder to read. Why did she not have the actual names AND the phonetic spellings? And more importantly, why did nobody stop her?

    • @Ilivedbih
      @Ilivedbih 24 дні тому +1

      That was the story they made to cover for her 😭. They actually had the names right above the phonetics lmfao.
      Look it up, the cards are literally posted online.

  • @Ecktor
    @Ecktor 29 днів тому +34

    They must have given her an IPA transcription of the names and she wasn’t instructed on how to read it.

    • @gremblorthesackgoblin7953
      @gremblorthesackgoblin7953 29 днів тому +22

      Close, they were phoneneticly done, and half seem to be cause by a person that dosent know phonenetics

    • @Ilivedbih
      @Ilivedbih 24 дні тому

      Except it had the names above the phonetics lol. As in written normally.

  • @gustavohernandeza.890
    @gustavohernandeza.890 29 днів тому +114

    NO WAY ANYONE CAN FUMBLE ELIZABETH LIKE THAT, THAT WAS DELIBERATE

    • @Ivoireee
      @Ivoireee 28 днів тому +2

      LEE...ZUBETHBROSS

    • @shinobi4317
      @shinobi4317 28 днів тому +1

      They gave a ratchet a microphone

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      @@shinobi4317 get your racist ass outta here, you're not welcome

  • @theconstitarian
    @theconstitarian 29 днів тому +22

    It seems like there wasn't a space between the first, middle, and last names. So the extra "ah" sound in Allison was the i in Nicole (her middle name).

  • @Captain_Bobvious
    @Captain_Bobvious 29 днів тому +11

    This is just the old Key and Peele skit come to life

  • @dylanchilders
    @dylanchilders 28 днів тому +4

    I remember my principal being noticeably drunk at my graduation, she was slurring when she announced every name. I wonder if its just a thing that the person who calls the names gets hammered before every graduation ceremony

  • @namecomingsoon9517
    @namecomingsoon9517 29 днів тому +53

    K&P should come back to do another skit of Substitute Teacher and have him handing out the papers and calling the kids names

    • @pogchamp5276
      @pogchamp5276 29 днів тому +3

      exactly my though this has got to be the bit

  • @jannamckeen4414
    @jannamckeen4414 28 днів тому +7

    At my college graduation we handed the announcer our cards and said our name to him so he wouldn't mispronounce it...but yeah give someone phonetic pronunciations with no reference of actual spelling instead...great Thomas Jefferson College

  • @Jackle02
    @Jackle02 28 днів тому +8

    When graduating you speak your name into an automated system that phoneticizes names. It did so badly.

  • @nathanrudman7771
    @nathanrudman7771 28 днів тому +3

    For the Allison one, it was definitely just her combining the first and middle name, it sounded like "Allison-ni Cole Bishop"

  • @LastTorgoInParis
    @LastTorgoInParis 29 днів тому +14

    all to try and avoid messing up the few actual hard names

  • @TheDarkmagus421
    @TheDarkmagus421 29 днів тому +64

    Not a great look for the university if it's legit.

    • @MrAirZone25
      @MrAirZone25 29 днів тому +31

      it's legit, she was only given the phonetic spellings off all the names. Which is an even worse look, because phonetic spellings are suppose to make it easier to pronounce words 😂

    • @drivethrupoet
      @drivethrupoet 29 днів тому +23

      @@MrAirZone25 Then the person who wrote the cards didn't really know how to use phonetics. Or if she wasn't a native English speaker, she'd have a difficult time using phonetics. Letters make different sounds in different languages.

    • @irishlad420
      @irishlad420 29 днів тому +5

      ​@drivethrupoet she's at a American college and if she's that bad at English she shouldn't be doing this like what?

    • @drivethrupoet
      @drivethrupoet 29 днів тому +5

      @@irishlad420 let's be real - none of us had ever even heard of this uni until now lol

    • @mymop4422
      @mymop4422 29 днів тому +4

      ⁠@@MrAirZone25be honest, not a lot of people know how to pronounce phonetics. look at an online dictionary and compare phonetics to the actual word.

  • @majoritygamerp5518
    @majoritygamerp5518 28 днів тому +3

    I was in the crowd for my sister, who was graduating for nursing. Let me just say, we and everyone else in the crowd were baffled. Luckily, by time my sister went up, someone new was announcing the names!

  • @Murdocke89
    @Murdocke89 29 днів тому +24

    Ronald Weasley…. It’s Levi Oh Sah!

  • @Aeduo
    @Aeduo 29 днів тому +11

    I could see the "alisuna" if the sheet or whatever she was reading off of didn't include pauses or anything and just had the full phonetic pronunciation straight through for the entire name. It sounds like just poorly organized, or they just like, pasted all the names in to chatgpt and copied the result without looking to see if it made sense.

  • @MannyBrum
    @MannyBrum 28 днів тому +2

    She was saying Allisonni Cole Bishop instead of Allisson Nicole Bishop. She was saying the "Ni" from Nicole at the end of Allison. My guess is that the phonetics didn't clearly show the spaces between words.

  • @drivethrupoet
    @drivethrupoet 29 днів тому +12

    hooked on phonics did not work for her

  • @middleagedmutantninjaturtle18
    @middleagedmutantninjaturtle18 29 днів тому +5

    This reminded me key& peele's substitute teacher skit

  • @Funnykid33
    @Funnykid33 28 днів тому +4

    I was about to say.. damn, did none of these nursing students recognize the person having a stroke? Lol...

  • @keeganwilson2868
    @keeganwilson2868 29 днів тому +5

    Reminds me of that Key and Peele skit at the white high school.

  • @SimplyCheryl
    @SimplyCheryl 29 днів тому +3

    4:48 it’s bc they did the whole names Charlie!!! When they did the phonetic spelling 😂

  • @thatchick1205
    @thatchick1205 28 днів тому +3

    I feel so bad for her. She got screwed!!! She didn’t get the OG names only the phonetic spelling. And bad ones at that.

  • @Orthane
    @Orthane 28 днів тому +1

    They should have played it off as a prank for their graduation honestly. Would have been way better that way imo.

  • @brandonpiatt5625
    @brandonpiatt5625 28 днів тому +2

    This is absolutely insane… since when is the phonetic pronunciation not in addition to the traditional spelling?! Who on earth thought this was a good idea wow. And to think no one thought to quickly pause, get this sorted, and run it back is also wild. You mess up 10 names and I’m stopping graduation to make sure I don’t get hundreds of pissed off parents and students. Hopefully they did. This is too much though.

  • @hayleyhellbound9513
    @hayleyhellbound9513 29 днів тому +3

    My first thought was is she having a medical emergency and her brain can’t process what she’s reading??

  • @malachivonschlegel2016
    @malachivonschlegel2016 28 днів тому +1

    A great resource for fantasy character names.

  • @kaisel5975
    @kaisel5975 29 днів тому +7

    Reminds me of the time a substitute told the class that if he gets anyone's name Wrong with mispronouncing he'd give them 20 dollars
    Immediately first name mans had to pay uo

  • @DrDremur
    @DrDremur 28 днів тому

    Reminds me of my college graduation. Things were a bit screwed from the beginning, because apparently we were in the wrong seats. Told to write out how our names were pronounced prior to graduation day . Didn’t even use them. There was one girl, the announcer didn’t even try to pronounce it just flat said “whatever your name is”.

  • @lucas33308
    @lucas33308 28 днів тому +1

    That sketch from Key and Peele wasn't as absurd as this 😂

  • @TehWhiteTiger
    @TehWhiteTiger 29 днів тому +3

    How do you not realise these aren't real names?

  • @KaioKenneth4
    @KaioKenneth4 29 днів тому +1

    Students put in 4+ years of work and studying and tens of thousands of dollars, and yet the university can’t be bothered to put in just a little bit of time and effort to get the graduation ceremony right. All of those students entire college experiences (and entire lives) have been building to that very moment, and it gets ruined by a lack of proper preparation. If I was one of those students, I’d be mad. If I was a parent of one of those students, I’d be absolutely furious, especially if I was recording the event for posterity.

  • @Vlekistan
    @Vlekistan 27 днів тому

    It’s like Key and Peele football player intro gags or classroom gags

  • @hizzy70
    @hizzy70 29 днів тому +3

    If they were phonetics then she would be forced to pronounce it properly

    • @cooperramos2700
      @cooperramos2700 28 днів тому +3

      If there were no spaces and she didn’t know it was a list of phonetics, then no.

    • @hizzy70
      @hizzy70 28 днів тому +2

      @@cooperramos2700 what's the point of phonetics again? Oh yeah to force you to pronounce words OBVIOUSLY, then yes. Are you going to make the claim phonetics don't force you to pronounce words cause that would be the dumbest argument I had in a long time please do

    • @vixelerator1914
      @vixelerator1914 28 днів тому +3

      @@hizzy70you’re assuming these were written and read by professionals when OBVIOUSLY they were most likely written by the students themselves, having no experience writing phonetics, making them inconsistent. From what it sounds like, there weren’t even clear spaces between each word. If they had included both the name in English AND in the student-written phonetics (like most graduations do) then it would’ve been fine. Or if they were written and read by a professional (but that would require a lot more overhead and wouldn’t be worth it imo).

    • @hizzy70
      @hizzy70 28 днів тому

      @@vixelerator1914 if thats the case then this issue would be common and happen once a year 🤦‍♂️

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      @@hizzy70 You're going in WAY too hard and fast on a nothingburger argument. Chill. The phonetics were obviously done wrong, so jumping down the throats of others over it just makes you look stupid, not the people you're calling stupid.

  • @jarredlionti3683
    @jarredlionti3683 28 днів тому

    A-Aron

  • @SkateBake4Life
    @SkateBake4Life 27 днів тому

    Why is the entire comment section explaining what was already said in the video 😭🤣

  • @richardlavoie5467
    @richardlavoie5467 28 днів тому

    The substitute teacher from the Key and Peele skit had better time pronouncing their names

  • @mischiefqueen
    @mischiefqueen 29 днів тому +11

    I'd be concerned she'd had a stroke, otherwise i'ts just rude to the students who dedicated their time to come up and get their award to be disrespected like this.

    • @Sebastian--2
      @Sebastian--2 28 днів тому +4

      A couple people were saying they gave her cards that had the names put down phonetically and this woman isn't a native speaker so she didnt know they were written phonetic so she read stuff like E-Liz-ah-Beth as a foreign name.

    • @mischiefqueen
      @mischiefqueen 28 днів тому +2

      @Sebastian--2 that makes the most sense, still someone should of stepped in to take over after the first few and apologised. Poor students.

  • @Bighomiehobbs
    @Bighomiehobbs 29 днів тому +2

    Someone definitely trolled 😂

  • @naturalborniller7426
    @naturalborniller7426 29 днів тому

    On the sheet is was spelled with the annunciation actually spelled out that why it confused her still a little ridiculous tho

  • @genefrisby5578
    @genefrisby5578 28 днів тому

    More likes more love for you awe.

  • @spudhenry8461
    @spudhenry8461 29 днів тому

    The school name is Thomas ! lol 😮

  • @awesomedog01
    @awesomedog01 28 днів тому

    My name is TU-MEY-MEY!!

  • @jeffreyedwards767
    @jeffreyedwards767 28 днів тому

    Charlie you left your wallet here [] ball- gag bar & grill [] thankx♡

  • @xConceptz1
    @xConceptz1 21 день тому

    Yet teachers claim they’re underpaid… can’t even pronounce simple words

  • @HyyHarston
    @HyyHarston 29 днів тому +2

    I’d say my name on the mic when I got up there

  • @MrMoridinalthor
    @MrMoridinalthor 28 днів тому

    So instead of just giving a list of names and risking mispronouncing the foreign names, they went all in on messing them all up. Thanks, Obama.

  • @yandere_1452
    @yandere_1452 28 днів тому

    For ours we littlerally had him go through two kids middle names 4 times and he fucked both of them up.
    Marie-thereas (almost prounced like a french 3)
    And Darell, which he said drill... oh boy.

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      So Marie's name was pronounced like "Muh-ree-t-wah"?

  • @pirateslifeb
    @pirateslifeb 28 днів тому

    THIS HAPPENED TO MEEEEE ☹
    I graduated college on the 11th with my service dog tho that was cool!

  • @remylebeau7258
    @remylebeau7258 29 днів тому +3

    I would want a refund of my tuition

  • @hizzy70
    @hizzy70 29 днів тому +2

    These are the people that teach our future

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому +2

      They were spelled phonetically - but incorrectly and spaced oddly. Not her fault.

  • @LesbianEventHorizon
    @LesbianEventHorizon 28 днів тому +1

    My last name got mispronounced at my high school and college graduation as well.. It's gotten to the point where I've stopped correcting people . At least try to say someone's name properly..

  • @Misericorde451
    @Misericorde451 28 днів тому

    Charlie "The Voice Crack Factory" Whitey 🎓

  • @TheLivingNightm4re
    @TheLivingNightm4re 29 днів тому +3

    Bro, when I graduated high school, the announcer pronounced my name incorrectly.
    Even though they told all of us students that if they don't want their name pronounced incorrectly at graduation, we go down to the office to sign our names so that doesn't happen. 🗿

  • @AlguienTeLlamoBuho
    @AlguienTeLlamoBuho 29 днів тому +3

    And she works at a college.

  • @TheSatanicPopetato
    @TheSatanicPopetato 28 днів тому +1

    Either that list it full of errors or she’s having a stroke 😂

  • @bernhardname8098
    @bernhardname8098 29 днів тому +3

    Am i the only one that does not understand fonetic alphabet?

    • @sarahr9894
      @sarahr9894 29 днів тому +6

      Phonetics is that thing you see in dictionary descriptions that's supposed to help sound out words. The problem is it's sorta in a code/shorthand so if you're not aware of what certain symbols mean you can't really pronounce the corresponding sound correctly.

    • @bernhardname8098
      @bernhardname8098 29 днів тому +2

      @@sarahr9894 yea those greek like letters and all crazy punctuations were the things that initially slowed me down while i was learning english , and the teacher was always like 'read it like it is written in fonetics' which is still confusing to me because they have never teached us those, so like most people in my country i learned through music and movies with subs (Polish dubb is atrocious in everything other than animated movies and first two hp movies). I know 4 languages (badly but it counts) and fonetic alphabet is still beyound me

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      Nope. It was never in our curriculum in all my years of schooling.

  • @marialastname4398
    @marialastname4398 29 днів тому +2

    Someone call 911 I think she’s having a stroke

  • @snuit4744
    @snuit4744 29 днів тому +15

    She graduated from Starbucks.

  • @SerjTerrible
    @SerjTerrible 28 днів тому +1

    She’s either having a stroke or trying to recreate a Key and Peele skit

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      They were spelled phonetically - but incorrectly and spaced oddly. Not her fault

    • @SerjTerrible
      @SerjTerrible 28 днів тому

      @@gardenofsn5955 yea I saw the whole video too lol, was just making a joke

  • @nnightkingj
    @nnightkingj 29 днів тому +2

    Watch the 2024 osu commencement presentation it was wild how cringe it was with him getting booed for trying to advertise bitcoin

  • @geraldoflores2957
    @geraldoflores2957 28 днів тому

    Tin foil hat here but what if they gave her a paper with all the names but its all togerther so she had to figure our where the first name started and ended

  • @bradestes2571
    @bradestes2571 29 днів тому

    My Names Jeff

  • @iceman4169
    @iceman4169 26 днів тому

    Great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jeffreyedwards767
    @jeffreyedwards767 28 днів тому

    You³

  • @zenfriend3260
    @zenfriend3260 28 днів тому

    She lost a bet and had to take 10 shots of tequila and not wear her prescription eye glasses at the same time

  • @NextStopConsciousness
    @NextStopConsciousness 27 днів тому

    This is DEI

  • @Omnival1226
    @Omnival1226 29 днів тому +3

    balls

  • @HyyHarston
    @HyyHarston 29 днів тому +4

    Why not get someone up there that can read names….

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      They were spelled phonetically - but incorrectly and spaced oddly. Not her fault.

  • @JosiahBradley
    @JosiahBradley 28 днів тому

    Preeee sent

  • @christhomas3035
    @christhomas3035 29 днів тому

    Isn’t this one fake

  • @FunnyDude119
    @FunnyDude119 27 днів тому +1

    Seems like she was purposefully mispronouncing any name that she deemed “American” just to try and “get back” at people who have mispronounced foreign names in the past. Really immature and pathetic for an adult to do.

  • @chandlergomez1190
    @chandlergomez1190 28 днів тому

    She ain’t know how to read 💀💀💀💀

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      They were spelled phonetically - but incorrectly and spaced oddly. Not her fault.

    • @skepticon9390
      @skepticon9390 25 днів тому

      She’s lucky the school didn’t hand her a list of offensive words and racial slurs, as she obviously lacks the common sense to rectify the glaringly obvious problem - even after being corrected multiple times. She’s either a brilliant troll or a baseless idiot. Can’t have it both ways.

  • @XXMARIOXX-dk4po
    @XXMARIOXX-dk4po 28 днів тому

    Thats that DEI bullshit at work

    • @gardenofsn5955
      @gardenofsn5955 28 днів тому

      How tf would that be? Or are you just looking for an excuse to be racist?

  • @ugandahater
    @ugandahater 29 днів тому

    Donkey Kong people ruin everything 🤦🏻

  • @gabo_santore
    @gabo_santore 29 днів тому +1

    Are we making fun of a dyslexic person? Honest question.

    • @sarahr9894
      @sarahr9894 29 днів тому +4

      No just someone given a very hard to read phonetic spelling trying their best while absolutely failing completely 😂😅

    • @scotthewitt258
      @scotthewitt258 29 днів тому

      Did we find out she is dyslexic? Someone said she was given cue cards with phonetic pronunciations.

    • @bigsam2621
      @bigsam2621 29 днів тому +7

      Why would you have a dyslexic person read the names at a graduation

    • @JasonSRX
      @JasonSRX 29 днів тому

      Are you really that smooth-brained? You think they would ask a dyslexic person to read names at graduation? Get off the internet for a bit dude, you need to refresh your brain irl.

    • @gabo_santore
      @gabo_santore 28 днів тому

      @@bigsam2621 I'm just wondering. because dyslexic people struggle with reading and pronunciation.. And nobody seems to know exactly what is going on..

  • @kaisuisen2824
    @kaisuisen2824 28 днів тому

    DEI hire's getting worse and worse

  • @limemason
    @limemason 29 днів тому +1

    Diversity hires, amirite?

  • @DaysOfOId
    @DaysOfOId 29 днів тому +7

    DAMN! Only 4 views in 49 seconds...I hate to be the one to say this but Charlie fell off😭💀

    • @PUNKZO
      @PUNKZO 29 днів тому

      Ur parents regret having you

    • @Soimy
      @Soimy 29 днів тому

      Stfu kid. You’re not funny + this isn’t even his real channel anyway

    • @fettuccine9896
      @fettuccine9896 29 днів тому +10

      Proceeds to like own comment

    • @mikewatman5445
      @mikewatman5445 29 днів тому +1

      Mama kudos for saying that, for spilling.

  • @propane593
    @propane593 29 днів тому

    Gotta be some joke

  • @thebiggestbellyofbellyland9246
    @thebiggestbellyofbellyland9246 28 днів тому

    why is he watching captain shepard dancing?