FYI : The Actual Weight of The Legion 500 is only 26 pounds (I have one & I weighed it), not 29 as he wrongly posted, and the 29 pounds refers to the boxed package weight in the box, not the actual bike weight out of the box.
Yes this is true. I have one as well and weighed it on two separate scales, 26 pounds on a spring scale, 25.78 pounds on the digital scale. Also the freecoaster hub engages in about 15 degrees of rotation. I got mine from Mongoose directly for $441.00 delivered to my door!
Definition of bunk-ass: bunk-ass adjective very ("-ass") bad ("bunk") So could bunk-ass mean Bad Ass? If so this could very well be complement. Example: "Now I’m getting a L500 JUST because of this guy’s Bad Ass videos." The L500 is a good bike and the only thing Dougsterbob got wrong was the weight. The price fluctuates from $620 to $441, timing is everything. Other than that, Dougsterbob's videos are based on his BMX experience, I respect that and is still a good specification comparison. Take it or leave and don't believe everything you see on the internet. Sometimes you just got to check it out yourself!
An interesting point. With chrome and green or black and orange color schemes, if you take "Looks" out of the equation, by Dougsterbob's own standards, the Legion L500 wins by 7 points!!!! That said the scoring is confusing because I'm not seeing the whole equation. L500 86 = 104? Reason 94=109?? Look at the board and do the math. I must be missing something.
I actually own and ride both of these bikes and I think they are both great. I'm 41 years old so I put seat post extensions on both of them and ride them for exercise nowadays. They are both really good looking bikes with my favorite being the Reason. I have no complaints with either bike, they both keep me riding happy and in shape
My guess is WTP sends dude more freebies. Mongoose has 48 spline crank and the "winning bike" has an 8. Mongoose has a sweet half link chain, nope on the WTP. WTP lists the weight of the reason as 27.63 lbs and the legion weighs 26.
What sucks is all these bikes are out of stock in the US but there sitting on shelves all over the place. I found a greek site that has at least one Panza Devotion and will ship it stateside but it ends up being $1100
As a mid school rider, the question of "who supports more riders" well buddy in the last decade or more, Mongoose did not support pro's as much because their owners took them back towards big box store orientation. If you look over their whole existence, Mongoose drags WTP through the mud for having supported way more riders and for longer with guys that come to mind like Eric Rupe, Fuzzy Hall, Tinker Juarez, Dennis McCoy and I'm forgetting a ton more. They may have faded in the pro area from the early 2000's to today but they are starting to come back to their roots slowly and do support many events and a few pro's again these days. We can't hold it against them that they were sold to many different big companies in the early 2000's and these companies didn't have the same mindset towards freestyle and pros unfortunately. I'm happy to see them come back slowly to their origins and offer again some decent complete bikes for different budgets as well.
For the price, I don’t think the Reason can be beat as a complete. Super street tech geo, full chromo set up, sealed bearings all around, and hub guards. I’ve landed directly on my downtube multiple times and only managed to scratch the finish.
Was wondering whats ur thoughts on using the bikes in this tournament for the pump track and dirt jumps. I have mostly race bmx bikes and was wanting to make my next bike a bike for the pump track or dirt jumps.
For $600 bucks I would suggest the RedLine ProLine Pro, about 21 pounds. For pump tracks you need a completely different animal. I like the disk brake! The best deal at this time is from the manufacture, $599.00 free shipping! FRAME Proprietary Alloy Formed and Butted Tubing FORK Full Chromo With Tapered Legs HEADSET Sealed Integrated Headset 1 1/8, Aluminum top cap CRANKS Proline 2pc Alloy Forged Cranks, 170mm w/24mm Chromo Spindle SPROCKET 44t, Alloy, 104 BCD BOTTOM BRACKET External Sealed Euro BB COGSET 16t CHAIN KMC Z6 FRONT HUB Redline Aluminum Fully Sealed REAR HUB Redline Aluminum, Cassette, Fully Sealed SPOKES Stainless 14g, Black RIMS A-M6 Alloy Race, 20 x 1.5, 32h TIRES Vee Speed Booster, F. 20 x 1.95" / R. 20 x 1.75" BRAKE LEVERS Promax XL-373 PEDALS RL Aluminum 9/16" Platform HANDLEBAR RL Pro Chromo 7.5" Rise / 10° Back / 4° Up GRIPS RL Pro Hex Grips STEM RL Aluminum HollowPoint 55mm SEAT Race Pivotal, No padding SEATPOST Aluminum Pivotal 26.8mm EXTRAS Chain Tensioners BRAKES Avid BB5 Disc Brake
Yes so far very fast sipping and I’m in Alaska, that said I’m used to very slow shipping usually about a week and a half to two weeks. This came in about a week and I was very pleased.
Yes they are i got my full complete 2021 Prism water cult devotion from them two months ago and just got a we the people trans purple doom sayer frame. Stoke to build it soon.
i feel the WTP would beat both the sunday ex & cult devotion bc the WTP bike has a freecoaster & pegs & hubguard, while the devotion & ex dont even come wit pegs. We'll see tho 🥵🥵🥵🥵
FYI :
The Actual Weight of The Legion 500 is only 26 pounds (I have one & I weighed it),
not 29 as he wrongly posted,
and the 29 pounds refers to the boxed package weight in the box,
not the actual bike weight out of the box.
Yes this is true. I have one as well and weighed it on two separate scales, 26 pounds on a spring scale, 25.78 pounds on the digital scale. Also the freecoaster hub engages in about 15 degrees of rotation. I got mine from Mongoose directly for $441.00 delivered to my door!
F this. Now I’m getting a L500 JUST because of this guy’s bunkass videos.
You’ll be the one with the bunkass bike not me bro 💀
@@Dougsterbob whack. Biased. 💯
Definition of bunk-ass:
bunk-ass
adjective
very ("-ass") bad ("bunk")
So could bunk-ass mean Bad Ass? If so this could very well be complement. Example: "Now I’m getting a L500 JUST because of this guy’s Bad Ass videos."
The L500 is a good bike and the only thing Dougsterbob got wrong was the weight. The price fluctuates from $620 to $441, timing is everything. Other than that, Dougsterbob's videos are based on his BMX experience, I respect that and is still a good specification comparison. Take it or leave and don't believe everything you see on the internet. Sometimes you just got to check it out yourself!
Legion L500 comes in two color matte black and chrome
An interesting point. With chrome and green or black and orange color schemes, if you take "Looks" out of the equation, by Dougsterbob's own standards, the Legion L500 wins by 7 points!!!! That said the scoring is confusing because I'm not seeing the whole equation. L500 86 = 104? Reason 94=109?? Look at the board and do the math. I must be missing something.
Your apparently missing the Bias needed to believe what dude is saying.
damn bro... even though my bike gonna loose i am happy it even made the list lol
I actually own and ride both of these bikes and I think they are both great. I'm 41 years old so I put seat post extensions on both of them and ride them for exercise nowadays. They are both really good looking bikes with my favorite being the Reason. I have no complaints with either bike, they both keep me riding happy and in shape
My guess is WTP sends dude more freebies. Mongoose has 48 spline crank and the "winning bike" has an 8. Mongoose has a sweet half link chain, nope on the WTP. WTP lists the weight of the reason as 27.63 lbs and the legion weighs 26.
What sucks is all these bikes are out of stock in the US but there sitting on shelves all over the place. I found a greek site that has at least one Panza Devotion and will ship it stateside but it ends up being $1100
I like WTP,
but the Legion 500 kicks ass & only 26 pounds...bada bing bada boom.
Very true!
Just get an l100 same as the 500 without the freecoaster and can be had at 250
As a mid school rider, the question of "who supports more riders" well buddy in the last decade or more, Mongoose did not support pro's as much because their owners took them back towards big box store orientation. If you look over their whole existence, Mongoose drags WTP through the mud for having supported way more riders and for longer with guys that come to mind like Eric Rupe, Fuzzy Hall, Tinker Juarez, Dennis McCoy and I'm forgetting a ton more.
They may have faded in the pro area from the early 2000's to today but they are starting to come back to their roots slowly and do support many events and a few pro's again these days.
We can't hold it against them that they were sold to many different big companies in the early 2000's and these companies didn't have the same mindset towards freestyle and pros unfortunately.
I'm happy to see them come back slowly to their origins and offer again some decent complete bikes for different budgets as well.
Nice you did the legion L500
For the price, I don’t think the Reason can be beat as a complete. Super street tech geo, full chromo set up, sealed bearings all around, and hub guards. I’ve landed directly on my downtube multiple times and only managed to scratch the finish.
Was wondering whats ur thoughts on using the bikes in this tournament for the pump track and dirt jumps. I have mostly race bmx bikes and was wanting to make my next bike a bike for the pump track or dirt jumps.
For $600 bucks I would suggest the RedLine ProLine Pro, about 21 pounds. For pump tracks you need a completely different animal. I like the disk brake! The best deal at this time is from the manufacture, $599.00 free shipping!
FRAME
Proprietary Alloy Formed and Butted Tubing
FORK
Full Chromo With Tapered Legs
HEADSET
Sealed Integrated Headset 1 1/8, Aluminum top cap
CRANKS
Proline 2pc Alloy Forged Cranks, 170mm w/24mm Chromo Spindle
SPROCKET
44t, Alloy, 104 BCD
BOTTOM BRACKET
External Sealed Euro BB
COGSET
16t
CHAIN
KMC Z6
FRONT HUB
Redline Aluminum Fully Sealed
REAR HUB
Redline Aluminum, Cassette, Fully Sealed
SPOKES
Stainless 14g, Black
RIMS
A-M6 Alloy Race, 20 x 1.5, 32h
TIRES
Vee Speed Booster, F. 20 x 1.95" / R. 20 x 1.75"
BRAKE LEVERS
Promax XL-373
PEDALS
RL Aluminum 9/16" Platform
HANDLEBAR
RL Pro Chromo 7.5" Rise / 10° Back / 4° Up
GRIPS
RL Pro Hex Grips
STEM
RL Aluminum HollowPoint 55mm
SEAT
Race Pivotal, No padding
SEATPOST
Aluminum Pivotal 26.8mm
EXTRAS
Chain Tensioners
BRAKES
Avid BB5 Disc Brake
new black l500 delivered for 360€, yay or nay?
I'm over 200lbs. Need something that can take a beating. I was thinking about the mongoose but idk. What do you guys think?
I work in a bike shop that have the mongoose l500 and the freecoaster sucks
Why do you say that bro? Kinda vague!
@@iStiflock I tried to increase the slack of this coaster and it was a nightmare, can you tell me if this is even possible?
The one I have works fine and and engages with about 15 degrees of rotation. As far as adjustment, I don't know.
Hey i was wondering if Dans comp is a trusted seller for bmx bikes
In my case they took very good care of me when my Kink Williams cinema frecoaster hub broke
Yes so far very fast sipping and I’m in Alaska, that said I’m used to very slow shipping usually about a week and a half to two weeks. This came in about a week and I was very pleased.
in my experience dans comp is a common choice among my friends & i havent had any problems receiving parts from them either
Yes lots of people here have had a great experience with dans!
Yes they are i got my full complete 2021 Prism water cult devotion from them two months ago and just got a we the people trans purple doom sayer frame. Stoke to build it soon.
i feel the WTP would beat both the sunday ex & cult devotion bc the WTP bike has a freecoaster & pegs & hubguard, while the devotion & ex dont even come wit pegs. We'll see tho 🥵🥵🥵🥵
Is the only difference between the l100 & 500 the free coaster?
yep only difference is l500 has freecoaster and 4 piece bars
3 things: the freecoaster, 4piece handlebars and half link chain.
I got one of my scooter Friends into bmxing He gets the legion next month