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300PRC v 300Win Mag with Hornady 250grn A-Tip (2845 yards)

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2019
  • Video is shooting the 250's, we also tested the 230's...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 393

  • @chadmiller8019
    @chadmiller8019 Рік тому +20

    The energy that is carried to the plate at that distance is incredible

  • @cjamonwilliams
    @cjamonwilliams 3 роки тому +60

    I'm a nurse in the ER with covid-19 patients surrounding me! I find solace in watching your vids!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +5

      Keep up the good fight Chris, glad you like the videos, Cheers and all our best.

  • @willo7734
    @willo7734 Рік тому +18

    Awesome shooting! It warms my heart to see that the good old 300 win mag can still hang with the newest cartridges. Great stuff.

  • @markandsamafterwork
    @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +53

    This was a TESTING day, both rifles shot very well, very good constant wind and conditions, their were a lot more shots of different rounds, but these are of the best comparable rounds between the 2, both running the 250grn rounds as explained in the front of the video....
    FYI, too early to really say, but this testing showed the PRC was the same as the Win Mag with the lighter 230grn projectiles, but when we went to the 250grn, it showed slight pressure signs at the same powder load that the Win Mag did not....as said early days, may just be a brass thing, the primers did not show the pressure issue, just sticky cases in the PRC.....
    As for the A-Tips, also just our first real look, but at this point these 250grn are performing very well, we did sort and order by weight (slight differences)
    but seems the bigger the better with these.....As said early days, Cheers

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      xxxx

    • @brockindermuhle2559
      @brockindermuhle2559 4 роки тому +2

      Do you have the load data for .300 win mag? The book I bought is out dated.

    • @nikeandros
      @nikeandros 4 роки тому +1

      i always liked your videos.. that is why i follow you... to learn.. BUT YOU COULD LEAVE US A HINT ON THE WEIGHT OF THE POWDER YOU USED.... I GUESS YOU ARE VERY JEALOUS OF YOUR WORK...LOL

    • @snipecox2153
      @snipecox2153 3 роки тому

      Fantastic shooting and good spotter, I've only shot 600yrds open sights so I can only imagine the time and effort spent here

    • @matthewkyle6939
      @matthewkyle6939 2 роки тому

      So the prc has a higher pressure rating than the win mag. Seems weird that you experienced pressure issues with the prc over the win mag. Do you have any guess as to why?. Maybe I'm not understanding the pressure rating correctly. With a higher pressure rating and roughly 5 percent more space capacity, the prc should have no problems.

  • @brazzy1467
    @brazzy1467 4 роки тому +35

    Love the sound of the bullet cutting through the air!! LOVE IT!!!

  • @gypsymanjeff2184
    @gypsymanjeff2184 4 роки тому +4

    Used to shoot n reload with my pops..he died awhile back n I slipped away from it ..have to say watching you folks I miss it dearly..thanks for the swift kick to get back to the things I love ..keep living the life ..your both very inspiring..by the way my pops was a mast.sarg. in the FFL.and was really skilled ..so thankful of ALL he had taught me..

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks Man, glad to help with the needed inspiration, all the best, Cheers

  • @lovetoflylovetofly3843
    @lovetoflylovetofly3843 4 роки тому +24

    It seems that the proven 300 win is as good as most of us would ever need, and will give the prc a run for the money. Great video you two!

  • @johnbarton1878
    @johnbarton1878 4 роки тому +24

    Great shooting and the spotter is clear and concise.👍

  • @jacobsnyder552
    @jacobsnyder552 4 роки тому +2

    I respect the fact that you guys get out to some serious distance without using 50 pound "rifles". It makes the ELR game seem more obtainable to us ordinary guys. Keep it up!

  • @PeterOldschool
    @PeterOldschool 2 роки тому +2

    300wm does everything just fine and then some. Shot a mile and a half with a modern day "advanced" round and kept pace just fine

  • @Shadow-kp4uk
    @Shadow-kp4uk Рік тому +1

    Been shooting a 300 win mag since the early 1980's. I'll just keep shooting it. Shooting a rebarreled Sendero, master smith said 208gr ELD Match & H 1000. H 1000 has worked very well for decades, I'm anxious to plink around at 1000, 1750 & 2250 yds. Keep up the good work, enjoy watching

  • @WolfClupus
    @WolfClupus 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks for sharing these testing videos, especially with the A-Tips. They seem to be performing better than in your first video. Keep them coming!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +3

      These 250's did well both times, more testing to come, glad you like, Cheers

  • @JReed305
    @JReed305 4 роки тому +6

    Never get tired of hear those bullets whizzing through the air on your target cam.

  • @adamtheninjasmith2985
    @adamtheninjasmith2985 4 роки тому +4

    You know some people can take a step back from what they do and say "damn I'm good". You two are definitely in that group! I would love to see some more of the cars too. Maybe over the winter?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Lol, we do our best, thanks very much for the kind words, Cheers

  • @dancallan5964
    @dancallan5964 Рік тому +2

    300 WM all day for me ! Love that caliber

  • @craneyguy
    @craneyguy 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome you two. Thank you for your time.

  • @billy19461
    @billy19461 4 роки тому +4

    As Air Strike Technology said; you two make it look so easy. But we know the truth. Thanks for bringing us along!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Billy, yes lots of practise and lots a hard work, nothing happens without both, Cheers and all the best.

  • @sniperGDA
    @sniperGDA Рік тому

    What you are doing is pure art!
    Thank you for sharing!

  • @zsoltczibula5722
    @zsoltczibula5722 4 роки тому +1

    Hello, I was in deep calculation, design and the extra money wanted to reserve for another 300 mag build, but i am just sure now: my trusty 300 winmag Sendero will utilize 230 grainers / hope that with good result/. ELD Match bullets ordered already! Thank you for this video Mark and Sam! 300 WINMAG is the most sensible 308 cal magnum , and not only by the availability of brass, and heavy target bullets. But the case capacity, design, and my 15 + years reloading experience of it. :-)

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 4 роки тому +1

    Impressive. Most of us consider 400 yards "long range". 1 mile is unthinkable but over 2500.... Incredible. Thanks

  • @variableknife4702
    @variableknife4702 3 роки тому +1

    I'm sure I'm not the only one having difficulty with the math of 300WM / 2700+FPS / 250gr while looking at published data. I'd be the first to admit I don't have all published data. Good work in any event.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому

      Cheers, FYI published data is only for factory rifles, can all change with slight improvements, videos here to explain, Cheers

  • @vindicator54
    @vindicator54 3 роки тому +1

    Your spotter saves you so much ammo! Well done to her and nice shooting to you.

  • @bradclarke343
    @bradclarke343 4 роки тому +8

    Again great job thanks
    I’m shooting the PRC and really like it. Also seeing close to the same results with WM
    Very interested in the A-Tips
    This is the best comparison I’ve seen PRC vs WM

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks Brad, Cheers

    • @warrendebary2225
      @warrendebary2225 3 роки тому

      For someone looking to start their journey, would you suggest the 300 WinMag or the 300 PRC initially to build off of? Lots of confusing information out their and I'm just starting to learn. Love your content! Thanks so much from California, USA

  • @ericpaul5448
    @ericpaul5448 4 роки тому +3

    First video I have viewed from You, Mark and Sam. The Drone fly over at the end of the video gives you a true depth of field view. I enjoyed your video content very much. I am a fan of the 338LM, but I love shooting the 300WM. Much more cost affective round. I have yet to pull the trigger on the 300PRC. Seems I can do everything with a WM that can be done with a PRC, honestly, and with all due respect.

  • @sandych33ks1
    @sandych33ks1 4 роки тому +7

    Nice work.. Im partial to the 300 win mag.

  • @charlesloveday9208
    @charlesloveday9208 4 роки тому +3

    Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! As always, another awesome video! Great shooting! Cheers!

  • @InSightFreedom
    @InSightFreedom 4 роки тому +6

    Some impressive testing. Thank you. I’m considering a rifle chambered in either 300 WM or PRC. Always enjoy seeing first hand results/experience

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks man, cheers

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 3 роки тому +4

      With modern reamers, the ol’ WM is right there with the PRC. Pick whichever is easier to get brass for.

    • @nathan00campbell
      @nathan00campbell 3 роки тому +2

      factory ammo and barrel/chamber 300 PRC all day
      reload and custom barrel/chamber, to close to matter.

    • @timtorkelson7201
      @timtorkelson7201 Рік тому

      It only York 60 yrs to catch up!😂 the ol' girl came out in 1963

    • @StevenPfeiffer
      @StevenPfeiffer Рік тому +2

      Stick with the 300 wm. If you want to shoot heavy bullets close to 250g step up to the next cartridge.

  • @G5Hohn
    @G5Hohn 4 роки тому +31

    2800y with a 25x optic. Amazing. That’s a sub-moa target at 2800y in a 20mph wind. Wow.

  • @xtremearmor
    @xtremearmor 4 роки тому +1

    Gee wiz, almost 3K yards and the 300 Win Mag still has a lot of energy! Very cool 😎 video!

  • @jda4879
    @jda4879 4 роки тому +10

    I had been looking into 300 prc but it appears that the tried and true 300 win mag is a still viable option and hangs well with the 300 prc I'll be keeping my 300 win mag set up

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Cheers

    • @tallen4520
      @tallen4520 4 роки тому +1

      If you reload; belted brass gives more wear and tear resistance.

    • @whatittooye
      @whatittooye 3 роки тому

      @@tallen4520 What do you mean "wear and tear" resistance? Curious because im tempted on a 300 mag

    • @tallen4520
      @tallen4520 3 роки тому

      @@whatittooye The brass is usually thicker.

    • @whatittooye
      @whatittooye 3 роки тому +1

      @@tallen4520 Oh ok thanks.I think the only downfall too 300 mag is the belt and when you start too reload it (im sure you know what i mean)

  • @redrocklocal
    @redrocklocal 4 роки тому +3

    Sounds like a plane going over every time. Love it. Good Shooting.

  • @b2lee150
    @b2lee150 4 роки тому +4

    Hi Guys! Always enjoy your videos. I see you used AR2225 Powder and said you got pressure signs on a very slow moving load on the 300PRC. AR2225=Retumbo I think and I found that the 230 and 250 A-Tips didn't excel with Retumbo out of a 28" 1-9tw Bartlein. I found VihtaVuori N565 to be an excellent powder for the 225 ELD-M's, better in the 230 A-Tips, and exciting in the 250 A-Tips. I pushed what many would consider a hot load with a 250gr A-Tip with Hornady soft brass, N565, FGMM 210 primers on a 30F (-1C) wet and miserable day...at 2931fps with a slight ejector swipe. ADG will be releasing 300PRC brass soon...and it should help me with making that my standard load.
    Of course these were too long to magazine feed....but they shot with a very consistent vertical out to 1760yds. Good to see you guys shooting. Always have fun.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks Man, sounds great, just not an option over here, those powders are not sold in Australia...Cheers

    • @b2lee150
      @b2lee150 4 роки тому +1

      @@markandsamafterwork That is a shame. I wasn't happy with Hodgdon H1000, Retumbo was my go to powder for the 225 ELD-M's but was replaced by N565. I didn't like N560 nor N570. RL-33 was an abject failure in the 300PRC. Reloader 25 was a failure and RL - 26 is like Unicorn Dust around here at the moment. I haven't tried it yet, but I doubt it will be better for me than the N565 according to the burn rate charts.
      Again, thanks for making such quality videos and keeping me informed and entertained while it's too cold outside for me to shoot....comfortably.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks Man, Cheers

  • @GONAVYCHIEF
    @GONAVYCHIEF 5 місяців тому

    Outstanding job with both.

  • @artifacthunter1472
    @artifacthunter1472 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely love your channel and your shooting skills! One word amazing!!!

  • @Simply_chase
    @Simply_chase Рік тому

    That round took the bus to the target!! Damn that airtime!!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  Рік тому

      Bullet flight time v speed ua-cam.com/video/peGrrUSUMIA/v-deo.html

  • @tornike1811
    @tornike1811 Рік тому

    i love only two calibers - 22 lr and 300 wm. thanks for videos like this.👍💥💥💥

  • @tdmjason
    @tdmjason 3 роки тому +1

    great video setups - awesome with all the different perspectives - lots of money and time you must put in to get this done - great job

  • @kylehendrix3531
    @kylehendrix3531 3 роки тому +1

    Spotter is good!

  • @Saa45MIV
    @Saa45MIV 4 роки тому +13

    Good video.. in my opinion it's looking more and more like the .300 prc is just another fad cartridge and the old saying if it isn't broke don't fix it stands true for the win mag.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +4

      I hear you, personally I will let the dust settle and see, it has some good design features, but really depends on the market, if enough manufactures pick it up, then it will end up a good thing, if not, then yep just another fad, Cheers

    • @welldonecj7
      @welldonecj7 4 роки тому

      Have you seen any advantages in the PRC. I am thinking of building a custom long range/hunting rifle and looking at 300 wm 300 prc and potentially a 7 saum. I know adg is supposed to be releasing some brass for the 300 prc soon so have some other options coming there.
      Any thoughts?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +2

      @@welldonecj7 All in the video, other than that, apart from doing this rifle, I would normally wait at least a couple of years before I went with a new cartridge, so too early for me to say anymore, Cheers

    • @05xlt
      @05xlt 4 роки тому

      I would be willing to bet that in 1963, there was an old .30-06 guy saying something similar about the .300 win. And really, what cartridge wasn’t a “fad” at least once in its life? Nothing is tried and true right out of the box. “Tried” can take some time. Nothing wrong with either caliber, or any caliber for that matter.

    • @piro2890
      @piro2890 4 роки тому

      @(T)(h)(e)(D)(u)(d)(e) Hahah, you're joking aren't you? The Government and the Military were behind not adopting the mighty FAL (instead, they went with a lemmon) and then later going with the 10mm. Who the hell sites GOVERNMENT when it comes to good ideas or good judgement?? I left the Military for a reason, social experiments trying to entertain Women in combat (sure, they had to water down standards to those of handicapped levels just for them to qualify..but hey, "progress") and now freaks in dresses and that's your argument? Government?
      The 300PRC is for the pretty girls wearing full monkey suits, cool gear and nice little paper distance holds on their optics, while making sure their dark flat earth tactical pants don't rip, the "PRS" crowd. Other than that, it's a gimmick and it doesn't do anything that the win mag already does. Don't take my word for it, watch this same video. And yes, Hornady benefited from Remington's bad management of the .260. They saw an opportunity and took it.

  • @alexrice3498
    @alexrice3498 Рік тому +1

    That's insane!

  • @Mr.tdiv14
    @Mr.tdiv14 3 роки тому

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @zsoltczibula5722
    @zsoltczibula5722 4 роки тому +1

    And I was curious on what should be the opinion of Mark on the Atips shooting from a 300 win ..... Here we are. I had to say honestly a 230 grainer would be my choice, because of factory 26” 1:10 Sendero barell I have in use. But anyway thank you for the video Mark!

    • @erikschuit7615
      @erikschuit7615 4 роки тому

      Hornady recommends a minimal 1:8.5 twist for the 250gr A-Tip, but it looks that it shoots fine in you 1:9?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Yes we tested the 230's also, lots more info to come, but some more testing before we get to that, Cheers

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Hi Erik, yes thought they would work, and yep, at this speed they sure do, Cheers

  • @michaelenochs4033
    @michaelenochs4033 2 роки тому

    That's a incredible shooting.

  • @drewbradley5671
    @drewbradley5671 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent shooting you two! I'm really excited to try the A-tips in 338L!

  • @reggieswindeall7438
    @reggieswindeall7438 Рік тому

    Congratulations your a real shooter. 2845 yards amazing shot. Guts trying 4000t can take lessons from you. Threw 67 shots to hit. Even I could do that

  • @chrisfisher3900
    @chrisfisher3900 3 роки тому

    Love her accent! Those 250’s clobber the piss out of that plate. Safe to say lethality is still there if one could get a consistent dependable shot

  • @michiganwoodsman2199
    @michiganwoodsman2199 3 роки тому

    Excellent videos. I'm surprised yall don't have more views. You guys are solid!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Man, yes, we don't get much help from YT, a bit to real for them I think, lol, Cheers

    • @michiganwoodsman2199
      @michiganwoodsman2199 3 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork so very true. I've heard the yt gun channels don't even get paid because their content is about guns. Is that true?

  • @roytallericoGunner
    @roytallericoGunner 2 роки тому

    This guy is outstanding!!

  • @mr.rem2609
    @mr.rem2609 4 роки тому

    Great shooting, great spotting. What a team!

  • @adamanteus11
    @adamanteus11 4 роки тому +1

    great shooting again , interesting to see that a 1 in 9 stabilazes the 250gr bullets

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks and well at this speed it does, keep in mind it is RPM (twist x fps) that stabilises, Cheers

  • @rjwhitsel
    @rjwhitsel 4 місяці тому

    Did we miss an important "feature" of the 300 PRC? I don't have the time or money to keep reloading 300 Win Mag to satisfy the bullet seating needs of the 300 Win Mag. Now we have the SAAMI specs for the 300 PRC! Now I can purchase factory ammunition and have the bullet seated out far enough to get some really remarkable accuracy. 300 Win Mag hand loaded is great but not so great when it comes to factory ammo. This really puts the 300 PRC ahead of the 300 Win Mag. I'm not going to sell my 300 Win Mag but if I don't have the time to hand load, my 300 PRC is my choice of caliber.

  • @M4A3
    @M4A3 4 роки тому +2

    Imagine how well the .300 Win Mag would shoot if it didn't have that darn belt?! *insert sarcasm here* Fantastic shooting, as always. Well done!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      These are the 250grn pills, we tested the 230's also, these shot the best out here, Cheers

    • @M4A3
      @M4A3 4 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork I apologize for typing too fast and thinking too little. I wrote it backwards of what I intended.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Yeh, we all get that sometimes, also FYI, the belt has never caused me any concern, Cheers and all the best.

    • @M4A3
      @M4A3 4 роки тому +4

      @@markandsamafterwork the belt has never hurt anything. You just get the keyboard snipers telling us how it is out dated and useless. Funny thing, mine still shoots under 1/2" at 100 yards, and I think that is not bad for a hunting rifle.

    • @prone_wolf8871
      @prone_wolf8871 4 роки тому

      @@M4A3 please correct me I'm not trying to be an internet ninja, just trying to further educate myself before I build a rig of my own.
      I thought the biggest advantage to the 300 prc vs the win mag was the ability to load higher weight and bc bullets but still fit in a mag box.....
      Am I going down the wrong path here?

  • @bobwiese6128
    @bobwiese6128 4 роки тому

    Well done Sir and Mam! OuTsTaNdInG as always! Thanks for this....

  • @MrMacroJesseSky
    @MrMacroJesseSky 4 роки тому +1

    Hey mark and Sam, did you have to cut the throat longer to run these bullets? Or is the majority of the length forward of where the ogive begins? SAAMI or CIP chamber specs? Thank you.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +2

      Yes both have been pushed forward to suits these loads, Cheers

  • @teoinmotion
    @teoinmotion 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Mark! I am considering a new long-range rifle - out to a mile, perhaps 2000 - should I go 300 Win Mag or 300 PRC?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +2

      Hi T A, well both would work fine, and we have shown a fair bit of what I have found, but decision is still for you to make, depending on all you details and preferences, Cheers

  • @user-br7lx6rx1p
    @user-br7lx6rx1p 7 місяців тому

    I ponder if the PRC slightly larger case capacity and longer neck gives you a little more room to experiment with load development???? Great video I've watched it many times now.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  7 місяців тому

      Both are chambered and handloaded to best of capabilities with these heavy projectiles ...Cheers

  • @stewmanmilner7843
    @stewmanmilner7843 4 роки тому +2

    Great video thanks.. Making decision even harder now.. Been wanting a 300PRC.. Is it that much better to justify????

  • @deanmacka4975
    @deanmacka4975 4 роки тому

    Great stuff guys

  • @umami0247
    @umami0247 3 роки тому

    Great shooting tex. These PRC rounds are very interesting and so some real promise. I didn't hop on the 6.5 creedmore bandwagon I have a 6.5x55 Swedish and.It has worked well for me I've had it for 18 years and honestly it does what the creedmore does however I like the 6.5PRC it's like the 6.5 magnum. I hope to get into some long range shooting been looking into the 7-300 practical. or even the 6.5-300. I'll be watching for your updates on this project.

  • @kevinklepp9526
    @kevinklepp9526 4 роки тому

    Awsome shooting you have a great place to do some long range shooting and you have awsome toys or tools being that’s your life style

  • @Cory14Tina02
    @Cory14Tina02 2 роки тому

    And here I was concerned about running the 225gr ELD-M in the 300wm, due to the length. This video leads me to believe that this shouldn't be an issue.

  • @Hoosieroutdoor1969
    @Hoosieroutdoor1969 4 роки тому

    Just watched the video, great shooting as usual, shot some of the A-Tip's in my 260 today with similar results, getting minute or less groups at 1000 yards when I could hold still long enough, can't wait till I can get some for my 338 Lapua

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Sounds great, the 6mm A-Tips where OK but not like these 250grn 30cals, so be interesting to test the 6.5's at some stage, Cheers

    • @Hoosieroutdoor1969
      @Hoosieroutdoor1969 4 роки тому

      That's not good to hear, thinking of building a 243 and shooting the A-Tip's in it

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Only first tests, and comparing with very good Berger bullets, but still, Cheers

  • @Ske3849qw
    @Ske3849qw Рік тому +1

    Sooooothing!

  • @Colonel1Bravo
    @Colonel1Bravo 3 роки тому

    Amazing spotter. Great partner

  • @jonathanrogers9961
    @jonathanrogers9961 4 роки тому

    Great shooting, subscribed

  • @wickiuprat
    @wickiuprat 4 роки тому

    Just ordered one of your adjustable bag base hope it helps. I have a heck of a time getting my rear stock height proper when out shooting long range. Hope to see more of these 300 prc videos. I have a Christens Arms 300 prc Long Range Mesa and Howa Bravo 6.5 Creedmoor and Savage 30-06 sporter rifle. Did 1500 yards today not hitting every time but right in there. Still working on my muzzle jump which is my biggest weakness. Greetings from Tillamook Oregon.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Great to hear, can be a few things, although Butt pad height is the normal issue with muzzle jump, Cheers

    • @wickiuprat
      @wickiuprat 4 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork Ment to say adjustable bag base in my earlier post. Going to make a bagrider for my rifles and maybe look at getting better muzzle brakes anyway thanks again for the videos.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Cheers

  • @user-jo5if6us5f
    @user-jo5if6us5f 4 роки тому +1

    300prc seems to have a tight group than 300win
    By the way,amazingshot! I can't believe you're shooting 2800yard!!!
    The longest distance I've ever shot is a 250-meter target in the boot camp.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Both shot well, but the chassis with the PRS is at another level, heres a video with it running a different barrel, Cheers
      ua-cam.com/video/TPeLGg42ThQ/v-deo.html

    • @user-jo5if6us5f
      @user-jo5if6us5f 4 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork ok, Thanks for the advice!

  • @michaelreed1380
    @michaelreed1380 4 роки тому +1

    Very interesting. That 300wm seems like it hits harder though. Are you using 230 or 250 grain rounds? Title says one thing, the crawl says something different, just fyi. Cheers!

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      As said in the front of the video 250grn, but also tested the 230's, Cheers

    • @michaelreed1380
      @michaelreed1380 4 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork Gotcha, sorry about the confusion. Those 250s must thump.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      All good, my bad, should have been more clear, Cheers

  • @JohnDoe-ig9ev
    @JohnDoe-ig9ev 4 роки тому

    Awsome content mate.. Cheers from the south

  • @teddygrose2091
    @teddygrose2091 4 роки тому

    Great shooting. Absolutely impressive consistency at that range. And you answered my question of if my 26" 1:9 300 RUM will stabilize that 250 grain bullet. Looks like it will. I should be able to make up enough velocity w my harvester 30 suppressor to make up for the 2 inch shorter barrel. Thank you.

  • @TimBiagi
    @TimBiagi 2 роки тому

    You guys rock, think I will keep the wm

  • @operator1018
    @operator1018 4 роки тому +1

    Have you ever considered getting a spotting scope with a reticle. It would make the spotting allot better and Save you money in the long run. Just mho

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the thoughts, but not how we do it, spotters job is to tell me where the bullet landed, not to call me onto target, references work better that mil or moa calls in our style of ELR shooting, and best vision is helped with clean vision (no reticle) FYI, you don't adjust the same amount as you see, once again, doesn't work that way, Cheers

  • @MelanieVanDeGraaff
    @MelanieVanDeGraaff 4 роки тому +1

    Do you feel like a 338 Lapua splash is significantly more than the 250 grain atip out of the 300 win mag/prc?

  • @triptideom
    @triptideom 4 роки тому +1

    YEESSS!!!!! ...haven't even watched it yet

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Cheers

    • @triptideom
      @triptideom 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the video! The scrolling info during the video, and the additional info in the comments section are great! All my questions have been answered. Still on the edge of my seat as you move forward with this. My Winny is a Browning lever for brush hunting, these videos have me itching for a new bolt. But to justify the money, it'd have to be an elk/moose gun my daughter could pack. So far my research has me seriously considering the .270 WSM
      My ULR fun will have to be limited to, how far away can I hit a 24" plate with a wood stock, pencil barreled hunting rifle, haaha. If you can shoot a 45-70 out to a mile with a piece of wire taped to the receiver for an aperture sight, there's hope for me yet.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Glad you liked. All the best with the next one. Cheers

  • @kylehicks639
    @kylehicks639 4 роки тому

    Love these testing videos great idea of putting your thoughts and how you felt on the drone b roll cheers

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 4 роки тому +3

    Both of those were very consistent, didn’t take any time to get them on target

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +2

      Yes they where and yes there was lots of other testing shots between the 2, but as said this was how these rounds went from first shot to hit, Cheers

  • @thesoggycheeseburgerincide7401
    @thesoggycheeseburgerincide7401 4 роки тому

    Amazing shooting guys.

  • @spacecat7247
    @spacecat7247 Рік тому

    There's a reason why 300 Win Mag has been as long-lived and as popular as it has been.

  • @fordraven5884
    @fordraven5884 4 роки тому

    Great shooting💪👍👍

  • @sharpshiell
    @sharpshiell 3 роки тому

    Well done

  • @patricstephens9682
    @patricstephens9682 4 роки тому

    The 230 a tips shoot really well in my rifle have a box of 250 a tips only thing is have to finger out a good load for the 250

  • @langleyj8199
    @langleyj8199 4 роки тому

    Thanks.

  • @MutarFuqueer
    @MutarFuqueer 4 роки тому +1

    With the almost identical setups that you have between the 300 WM and the 300 PRC, is there much difference in recoil?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      None, Cheers

    • @MutarFuqueer
      @MutarFuqueer 2 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork Watching this video for like the 5th time today. You guys are amazing! Cheers!

  • @jimmielittle877
    @jimmielittle877 3 роки тому

    Taylor Swift sings "If I were a man " You Are the MAN 🌻awesome shooting 🥇

  • @customjrod
    @customjrod 3 роки тому +1

    You need to use a slightly slower powder in the prc to reach its full potential.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  3 роки тому

      That would also improve the WM, the PRC is just better suited for the lighter bullets, 225 or less, Cheers

    • @matthewkyle6939
      @matthewkyle6939 2 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork that makes no sense as it is literally designed to shoot heavy bullets.

  • @rgi8426
    @rgi8426 6 місяців тому

    Nice video, guys! What state are you at?

  • @shannonnunn
    @shannonnunn 4 роки тому +2

    Hopefully they make a 7mm bullet for an 8 twist in 200- 210 grn range... It would fly

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Cheers

    • @shannonnunn
      @shannonnunn 4 роки тому

      @@markandsamafterwork I love your videos chief.... Your and your wife are a hell of a team....

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Shannon, glad you like em, Cheers and all the best.

  • @GTRSniper1
    @GTRSniper1 4 роки тому +1

    Great work guys.
    What was the MOA elevation and wind difference between the two?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks Man, in the video the conditions (wind) was different between to 2 rifles, so had 10moa difference, but when tested straight after in same conditions, had 5moa difference, Cheers

  • @groundcontrol5365
    @groundcontrol5365 9 місяців тому +1

    If you were to load to fit within a standard magazine length ( say a sako trg 300 win mag magazine), would their be a difference ballistically? Or is this all just bs marketing?
    I have read that 300 win mag needs to push the long heavy bullets into the power capacity to load them within the magazine. But seeing as you don't actually come close to filling the max power capacity in either round before pressure starts...does it even matter?
    Cheers and Thanks

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  9 місяців тому +1

      These 2 rounds are the same length, both longer the factory, both to suit long magazines, Cheers

    • @groundcontrol5365
      @groundcontrol5365 9 місяців тому

      @@markandsamafterwork Do you think with the 230 bergers you could get the Win mag to match the prc and still fit in a regular magazine?
      I realize the 250s are very long and probably were never designed to fit any magazine

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  9 місяців тому

      Not something we have tested, we rarely use the mag, Cheers

  • @amsb4dafunk406
    @amsb4dafunk406 4 роки тому

    About getting close to that 5K paddock time again.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      Lots of fires over here, lots smoke in the air, we are ready when we get vision, Cheers

  • @Docrocks437
    @Docrocks437 3 роки тому +1

    I've heard that the 300 prc has an extremely short barrel life.

  • @prone_wolf8871
    @prone_wolf8871 4 роки тому

    Would love to see a "your thoughts" video on 6.5 gap saum vs 300 prc.

  • @guttermonk3y
    @guttermonk3y 4 роки тому

    Fantastic shooting as always! Quick question that you've probably covered but I must have missed. Do you use a Kestrel or another solver to get your firing solutions?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      For this stuff while developing new loads with new bullets I use basic tables, but when set up I use Applied Ballistics or Strelok Pro on the iPhone, Cheers

  • @HSTvids357
    @HSTvids357 4 роки тому

    Now I can't get a 28" 1:8.5 twist out of my head for my 300 RUM... Looks promising so far!

  • @trentfrancis4646
    @trentfrancis4646 5 місяців тому

    That first one was HOT

  • @sebastiangiannini8280
    @sebastiangiannini8280 2 роки тому +3

    Hmmmm so much for the 300 prc hype.I would say all in all 300 win mag won that match.not bad for a old gal by modern standards first debuting in 1963.

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  2 роки тому +2

      Yep, lol, Cheers

    • @redrock425
      @redrock425 2 роки тому +2

      As I understand it 300 PRC is "better" if you're buying a factory rifle. If you go custom you can get the 300 WM to everything the PRC can do i.e. use longer, heavy, high BC bullets.

  • @2435dcmartin
    @2435dcmartin 4 роки тому

    Can u do a close up of the rounds to compare similarities next time? Thanks mate.

  • @vincenthamilton1163
    @vincenthamilton1163 3 роки тому

    I have .300 win mag.300 prc and .300 ultra mag love all 3

  • @TubeDobs
    @TubeDobs 4 роки тому

    I`m amazed to see the energy from the bullet at this distance with those calibers

  • @skip123davis
    @skip123davis 4 роки тому

    have you folks done a video on how to choose the right optic for one's rifle?

    • @markandsamafterwork
      @markandsamafterwork  4 роки тому

      We have done a couple of build series on ELR rifles, and we do reviews on scopes, but largely for ELR/Precision shooting, so those may help, otherwise heaps of that stuff on many other channels, Cheers