Viltrox 33mm 1.4: Perfect "Nifty Fifty" entry lens for Fuji?
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In this video I want to answer the question, is the new Viltrox 33mm 1.4 lens a good entry-point for newer photographers looking to get into Fuji X with a "nifty fifty" equivalent lens? Or would you be better off with maybe the 35mm f2 XC?
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Thank you for Andrew!🙌New firmware to fix the aperture issues is coming soon！
what about the 56?
@@ReZShot Hi really sorry we have no idea of that either.
Where is the 56mm viltrox? That's the one that I am waiting for!.........I need low light to shoot videos of my concerts!
Hi Viltrox, please hit me up if you see this.
@@Jazzmarcel Will also come this year！
This lens/brand and Fuji's new stance on 3rd party lenses changes everything. I *adore* Fuji but their lenses are honestly way too overpriced sometimes, with no budget alternatives, which makes owning the system kind of a problem for broke people like me. Even though I'm completely in love with Fuji I've discouraged several friends from buying into the system because I just knew they wouldn't have enough money to buy any of the good lenses. But now that we can get solid primes for under $300? *That* changes everything. That might finally make Fuji a solid competition against Sony and Canon's line of good budget lenses.
I was waiting for your thoughts on this! It was interesting seeing your original Viltrox 85 review and then post-firmware update. Thanks for the review.
Hopefully they can update the firmware to correct this issue.
Love how you do a comparison of the actual light transmitted, that's really useful to know. I'd still go for the 35 f/1.4 though, because it's so lightweight for such a large aperture!
Literally just found out about the 33 and the 23 today and was waiting for your review. Thanks!
Hi! There have been a bunch of firmware updates released for this lens. Last update notes:
1. Adjust the minimum focus distance
2. Optimised focus performance
3. Fixed the problem of focus hunting on some camera models。
Earlier releases also corrected a lot of other focusing and stabilisation issues. I'm very curious about your opinion now.
The size and quality for the xf35mm f2 is just unbeatable.
The weather sealing is a sell for me. Honestly modern sensors just get much better performance at higher ISO that I don't need to go into those sub 1.8 apertures. The f2 is about $300 on the used market and am looking at adding that. Right now I have a Meike 35mm 1.7 ($70) on my Fuji and I like the focal length.
I love frog and toad!
I just bought it and its freaking perfect with my xt30, loving exploring it and cannot wait for rain and night shots haha
Jose Juarez glad I saw this video. I am deciding to get the viltrox or fuji 35 f2. It is clear to me now that the native 35 f2 is better for me for mentioned reasons but also because it is way smaller and I can get in good shape for 215 euro📸
@@gregoryoutdoors yo but xt30 can’t do rain
No matter what, I wouldn’t give up on my 35/1.4 ... colors that the lens produces are simply unmatched. As always, great review Andrew, keep them coming.
I feel the same.. having held both the F/2 and the 1.4 version, I'm stuck with the latter as my favorite lens, barely take it off my camera. I just love the looks of those photos.
Always appreciate the honest and in-depth review. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Great review. I own and love the 35mm f2 and was more interested in Viltrox's 56mm lens, but after watching this I don't think I'd hold my breath.
Yesss I've been looking forward to this review!
I shoot with Fuji 35 f2 and love it. Probably never change. However I have high hopes for (scheduled to come) Viltrox 55 f 1.4. If this could come close to Fuji 56 I would be all over it! Thanks for all the videos you do. Appreciate your thorough reviews!
I realy Hope that the 55 ist way ceaper than the Fuji lens
@@felixwurm1467 according to rumors, it would cost around $250. So I would expect at max €300.
Btw I guess you are from Germany with the "ist"
I’ll admit I wanted to fight after you were talking so much shit about the 35 1.4, then I remembered I sold it and I calmed down a bit. How dare you, almost!
😂
great review, love your honesty. Now I wanna try this.
It all boils down to the styles you are shooting, for me the xf35 1.4 is still a keeper for me. Couldn't care less about the noise and speed...I get my photos 😎
Yesss, I've been waiting for this video! Can't wait for the 56mm review.
your reviews are just so awesome! another excellent review giving us good advice. thanks to you i have bought every lens you reccommend and was a great buy!
Happy to help!
Just sold my 5dsr and lenses and picked up a xpro2 and 35 f2. As well as a mamiya7, I've enjoyed watching your videos about the Fuji lens systems which are foreign to me.
WAS WAITING FOR THIS!!!!
My F2 is so light and small... I might wait and see if Sigma or Tamron will come out with any Fuji lens
That pool splash photo near the end (3rd from last IIRC) is fantastic!
thanks!
Great and helpful review. Thanks a lot!
Completely agree with your view on the Fuji 35mm 1.4. I owned it for over a year but eventually sold it. I still get a surprised response whenever I mention that I don’t like it for exactly the same reasons you don’t. It is good to hear someone else feels the same as thought I was maybe missing something..
Haha. Yup. People get mad at me all the time for expressing my dislike for it. :)
Digital art with an analog heart. That sounds extremely nice. Love it.
Thank you!
The dimensionality of shots of the kids by the pool is excellent! I wish more lenses had this style of rendering.
I heard Tokina also making one for X mount. Same focal length 23,33 and 56. I’ll wait for that and decide which one to get. Right now i’m using fuji 23 f1.4 and viltrox 85mm. Loving the Viltrox 85mm tho.
could you please re-review the 16 1.4
I really like how much passion you have for this lens
there the 23mm too from them, m so pleased finally for my xH1
I love my 35mm f2 too much to consider the Viltrox 33mm. If it was a 23mm, maybe. I'd like to get the 85mm Viltrox next.
Viltrox did just announce a 23mm 1.4 also. There are a few reviews trickling in for it...
Andrew & Denae I’m waiting for yours before I decide if it’s worth it to take the plunge on that lense.
I really like the performance of my f2 version. How does it compare while using face and eye detect? If the performance is on par with the f2 I will consider to sell the f2 and go with the 1.4. The only negative in my book is it's enormous size!
The most important note of this review is the real light gathering of the lenses. On the 35mm F2 you can get almost same amount of light and better image handling wide open, less blur but it can get better closeup, plus WR.. something can't solve a firmware update. Interesting comparison, not just a showcase ;)
Thanks for this video. Chromatic aberration in Viltrox and no as such light advantage as you made us see. Getting close to subjects also for Fuji. But Fuji gives more film light light fill effect and Viltrox is dark shadows. So instead of costly 35mm F1.4 Fujifilm with motor sound, I think 35mm F.2 is great. Does Fujifilm has focus breathing issue? I am planning to get XE-4 with 35 mm instead of 27mm kit lens.
Hi. Wondering with Fuji relaxing access to tech is there any info around on possible smart adaptor Nikon to Fuji
I am a Nikon FF user transitioning over to Fuji and would like to use some of my G glass
Nothing officially supported, but I just read about a new autofocus adapter made by a third party company that's supposed to be not bad. Look on fujirumors.com
The sigma 18-35 with ther fringer seems to be the best value overall. It's basically 3 primes and with th e XT4 the AF is reliable on video. Its heavy for sure but it beats carrying 2 other primes in the bag
Absolutely agree to this. The Sigma is a great lens. And I'm very happy with the fringer so far. It gives you so many great lens options with you Fuji camera.
Interesting, other reviews ive seen have said that its incredibly sharp. Nice to see a counter to that but I cant help but wonder if theres an issue with the copy you have?
I'll obviously keep my Fuji 35 1.4, but im very excited for the 23 and 56 from Viltrox!
Edit: It would be super helpful if you could post sample images for us to peep ourselves, UA-cam compression isnt the best to judge with
Tolerances are particularly inconsistent, historically, with Chinese manufacturers. You will most definitely see variance.
From what I can tell, the bokeh really isn't that different at all. For some off reason, at 35mm the difference between f2 and f1.4 isn't very big at all. This is why I went back to the 35mmf2. Faster, quieter, smaller. It misses that 3d effect that the f1.4 gives but a trade off is a trade off.
Comparing the 35mmf2 and 33mmf1.4, the 35 looks sharper for sure and suffers less from CA etc. Also, that build quality is fantastic. I think the increase in price is justified but $ for $, they're probably equivalent.
i love my Sigma on my sony a6400. switching to Fuji XT4 that i ordered, as soon as it arrives to me! definitely considering a Viltrox lens and hoping Sigma joins the Fuji mount now that they are opening their system to 3rd parties. But yeah, viltrox seems to have several coming out this year, huh?
I was also looking for alternative to Fujinon and just started with Fujifilm. Today I have purchased Fujinon 23mm f2 and Sigma 30mm f1.4. My plan was to test them during week, make decision and return one of them back to shop. I cannot be more suprised - I didn't need week, not day, not one hour. After few shoots I can tell you that Sigma for Fujifilm is much more SHARPER, of course it has BETTER BOKEH (I cant compare with fujinon 23 f1.4, but this one has old SLOOOWER AF speed). As bonus - Sigma is cheaper.
Thanks for the honest review. I love the fuji lenses for their build quality and image quality and their second hand value. For me Viltrox is a cheap option but I'd rather save my money and get a fuji. I'd feel like my money was well spent and I wont be replacing it a year later.
I've been waiting for this review; the boke quality was something I was a little concerned about from a very early review but it does look very good. With all that said, I probably will still side with the F2 WR as I tend to visit my mom in Seattle during the winter/rainy season and we tend to hike around forests
Andrew Which one would you get? Fuji 35mm f2 xc or viltrox 33mm f1.4? As a starter lens? I just got a brand new xs10
I was excited about this one but I think I’ll go for XC35...
Honestly, Fujifilm just made some good and cheap prime lenses that are unbeatable at a certain point, especially the 23,33,50mm f/2, its cheap, its sharp, its fast, its small, its lightweight. 3rd party companies seem not to spend that many resources for APSC lens make Fujifilm in a leading position.
Good vedio I do have now 32mm Zeiss and fuji 35mm 1.4 with my Fuji xt3 is that lenes better than both of them by the way the 35mm 1.4 focus very fast with xt3 but I use only for photos day times. Thanks
Wow, it's bigger than I expected. I like my xf35mm F2 except I foolishly picked the silver instead of black.
Thank you.
Thanks, Andrew! I think I’ll skip this one. This video reminds me why I’m subscribed to your channel. While other channel praises the 33mm, you have us a very honest review. I think I’ll stick with the Mitakon 0.95, which I wish you review! Cheers!
The Mitakon is great! It's not perfect but the most fun lens to use and still good picture quality.
Pascal Verheul would you pick it over the 35mm 1.4? And why? Thanks!
I can't see myself selling my XF 35/1.4, it's just such a good lens for my purposes. I don't shoot video with it, and if I wanted to shoot video at 35mm I'd likely get the XC 35/2 or one of those cheap Chinese all-manual 35s.
I saw an article stating that these viltrox lenses will scratch the x pro3 lens release button-area! Have you mounted this on your x pro3?
Can this lens be used on the XPRO-3? Isn't there a compatibility issue that would serve as a caution to purchasing it?
How about the Touit 32/1.8 from Zeiss? Really saturated jpegs with it on FUJIFILM cameras though.
So in low light use it's more of a 1.8 or a 1.6? That's an interesting deal-breaker for me. I was hoping to sell the 35f1.4, but I like the light.
How does the autofocus behave in the video?
My biggest frustration with native Fuji lens is the vignette correction that become apparent during video capture when transitioning from a dark space to a bright space and vice versa. I'd love to know if that issue exists in the Viltrox or not. If not, this lens will be my go to video lens
There is no vignette correction with this lens.
@@AndrewGoodCamera My god, I think she may be the one then! Thanks for the quick reply and keep up the great content!
Hey Andrew, one thing I miss from you reviews is the Manual Focus ring. If it's mechanical, focus by wire and so on
I love the click-less aperture rings! I watched this review and Pal2Tec and will be buying this used. I have the 23 and love it's 35 focal length and need the 50 as well so it's a no brain er.
looking at viltrox 33mm and fuji 35mm f2 pictures, i guess there are more than 2mm difference )) thank you so much for a review~!
I wish third party lens makers would put weather sealing in their lenses.
Ordered one of these to go with my X-T3. Only thing I am concerned about is the clickless aperture ring.
thegeneral123 I am also worried about the clickless aperture ring, i mean...for less than 300$ (about 260-280) you can get a mostly decent 50mm eq. at f1.4!
It’s not that bad at all.
If only they made a smaller form factor (like the original Fuji 35mm) with a normal aperture ring i could have bought it like instantly!
@@tommasomencarelli7952 Big lenses don't really bother me. I rock the 16mm F1.4 and the 55-200 with the 18-55 all the time. One thing though that I mentioned to Viltrox was the lack of weathersealing. If they had offered a version of the lens with a normal click aperture ring and weather sealing. It would have been a killer if the lens is fast and sharp.
The other thing though that annoys me is how they blatantly saw the positive reaction to the 33mm and jacked the price up for the 23mm. That just struck me as greedy. I bet the 55mm F1.4 will be even more expensive still.
Hi I’m new to photography! I’ve got a tight budget after breaking my kit lens. I’ve been looking at getting the xc 35mm f2, but this one has caught my eye also. Which one out of these 2 would you recommend?
Was in the same position couple of months ago, I got the Fuji XC. Couldn’t justify spending 1.5 times more (at the very least) on a third party lens while there is an excellent and very reasonably priced Fuji lens available. I’m very happy with my choice 😃
i think im getting the 35mm f2. might get the viltrox 56 or 23 to have ONE viltrox prime in my bag. i got the fuji 16mm 1.4 as my only prime at the moment.
Sold on the Fuji F2, I was considering the Viltrox and Fuji f1.4 but the weaknesses of the viltrox and the tiny differences of the Fuji just don't seem a good trade off
Are they gonna send you the 23mm f1.4?? I'm really interested in it but it's only available on their store website right now
Unclear. They seem to be sending their three new lenses out randomly to different creators.
Great review, as usual!
I think saying it is 1/2 stop darker is a bit overstated. I have seen another reviewer bench their other lenses based on exposure, and found it about 20%.
But more interestingly, Viltrox is releasing the same optical formula in a cine-lens. They labelled it as T/1.5, that is 17% of a stop darker. Given the evidence I have seen, T/1.5 seems more accurate to me.
Personally, owning the 35mm f2, I don't think the difference between T/1.4 and T/1.5 is really worth considering as a "con," especially considering that Fuji bakes vignette correction into my Fujicrons (which I love) automatically raising exposure in the edges and inducing some light noise at higher ISOs in those regions.
If I were a videographer, it would be imperative to know the T-stop. Exposure homogeneity is critical given the amount of frames you need to process.
I shoot bright sun all the time, so you just saved me some cash, thanks
Good day to you.. Do we need to use any adaptor for this with XT3. If so what model is best. Thanks and regards .
No. This is native to Fuji X
did you get the 23mm yet from Viltrox??
Any thoughts about zeiss touit 32mm 1.8?
Hope you will review the XC 35mm as well.
Did you mention weather resistance? (I might have missed it.) I limit my kit to WR Fuji lenses, as I do a lot of hiking, travel, and outdoors exploration. For me, a weather resistant lens is a necessity because of the reality of exposure to rain, sleet, and snow. Thanks as always for your excellent work.
Not weather sealed, no
What I am really looking forward to, someday, hopefully sooner than later ,is a Sigma or Tamron lens to compete with the Fuji 50-140. They have arguably made some excellent 70-200 lenses for Nikon, Canon and Sony. Hopefully, they will do also for Fuji.
How does it compare to the sigma 30f 1.4?
So the XC 35 F/2 is smaller, cheaper and better optically than this? Not sure this Viltrox is worth it if you don't need f/1.4 very much.
nice video as always - ready to buy - but no where to buy but few eBay stores - but they have worthless shipping - their express shipping is like end of June for $70 from China - by then B&H might have it - so now really no place to buy from - seems the 23mm f1.4 fuji will not be out till next year - if anyone knows how to buy this lens with quick delivery please share
If it's anything like with the 85mm 1.4, the reason for the slow shipping is because it's not ready for shipping :) You'll probably be just as well waiting for it to show up in B&H or Amazon.
You hurt my soul though trashing the Fuji 35 f/1.4. haha. But seriously,gGlad you compared actual exposure values. The fact that it's not truly 1 stop faster will be missed by a lot of reviews and those who purchase it.
35mm f1.4 is a classic. The F2’s not too shabby as well
Any chance Viltrox sent you the 23mm as well? Can we expect a review of that one in the near future?
They seem to be divvying up the 23mm, 33mm and 56mm among creators. I haven't heard that they have any plans to send me the others.
Thx for debunking the hype of that lens. I own the 35f2... will keep it and go for the 35 1.4R if I feel the "call of the bokeh" :)
I’m number 1 today! My X-T4 is on the way. Greetings from Cedar City, haha.
Hey Jeff. So close to the greatest city in the world! ;)
Andrew & Denae haha yep. I know, I lived there most my life. Great video! I have been skeptical of anything Viltrox since my bad experience with the EF-M2 Focal reducers that were garbage. This looks like an improvement, albeit flawed. Nice price point though.
check out the 23 f1.4 from Viltrox, would be interested in this
I would LOVE for this to be released for EF-M
The Canon 32 1.4 is a really awesome lens if you haven’t checked it out. A bit more expensive than the viltrox but really excellent and very small.
Were the photos of the dog color graded? They look fantastic. Was that sunlight hitting Andrew's face on the left side of the video?
All photos were shot with an in-camera "recipe" based on Fuji X Weekly's Kodachrome Vintage. It's my new favorite "pre" processing. The light on the left is a tungsten balanced LED behind me. I usually have it more of a rim light, but had it too far forward this time. :)
Время на видео 4:55. Почему очень сильно различается время выдержки (почти в два раза) при одинаковых условиях съемки, чувствительности и диафрагме объективов? Возможно свет из окна мешает сделать одинаковые условия и сделать тест объективов более точным и правильным.
Finally someone that I can relate too, I had both 35mm f1.4 & F2 & I couldn’t see the magic that every was raving on about with the 1.4’ version? So o sold it and kept the F2 which is great, optically I couldn’t see any difference in them both regarding IQ.
Haha. Yup. I am constantly hearing about the "magic". I don't think they would be able to tell the difference in a blind test. I'd make a video testing the theory, but that'd be a little like ruining Christmas. As long as they are happy. :)
The “magic” of the 35mm 1.4 maybe is the way the len renders color in certain light conditions combine with how natural the shallow depth at 1.4 just “clicks” with the field of view that results in a very “analog” feel that many people are pleased of. But indeed, only under specific conditions, otherwise the image quality between the 1.4 and the f2 are pretty much the same.
Yes, you are demonstrating what I always say. When people claim a lens is magic they tend to reference color rendering. It's the easiest to claim and hardest to disprove that there is nothing magical about most gear. But if the lens makes you happy, that's certainly important as it transfers directly into feeling inspired and being excited to shoot. Heaven knows I do that myself with my favorite lens, the 16mm 1.4. Though, if I'm honest, there's nothing particularly special about it that couldn't be beat or duplicated by a third party in short order.
I have the 35 f1.4 and it's a great lens albeit slow focusing but for those who are on a budget and want a faster lens, the XC 35 f2 looks like an interesting. I am still filling out the rest of my focal length lineup. But the XC since it performs as well as the XF version looks like it could be a good companion for my XF f1.4 for daytime street shooting.
I have the XC35mm - bought new when it came out and absolutely love it, really fast af sharp edge to edge even wide open - yeah its plastic but that doesn't bother me - no lens hood either but picked one up cheap all in all best £160 I spent.
I was so worried when switching to fuji soon that I wont have any decent budget lenes
What about Zeiss Touit 32mm 1.8?
Not a big enough difference, improvement for me to leave my F2.
How's the Viltrox 33mm compared to Fuji XC 35mm?
And what about for shooting astrophotography?
Anyone use the Viltrox store link in the description? Looks kinda weird to me but I really wanna buy it there. Amazon is telling me I won't get it for two months, but that site says I can pay for 10 day shipping. SOMEONE HELP PLEASE!
that's Viltrox's official link they gave me
So yeah. The Fuji 35mm f2 is pricey, but the performance, the size and build quality outruns the competitor from Viltrox.
For a beginner the price difference can be the thing to choose the Viltrox, but I'd still recommend the Fuji to them because it will please them more when they are getting more experienced and want to get more out of their photography.
Also it's probably a better starting point to start with f2 lenses, because otherwise the rabbit hole of "needing" big aperture (1.4 and bigger) lenses is way to easy to fall in to, once they are used to that.
great reiew
That crucial 1 sec of exposure changing does sound like a deal breaker. Sad, i was hoping for a cheaper alternative not to buy the xf35 f2.
Fuji XC 35 f/2?
Merci pour ce test neutre et complet.
Hi thanks for the neutral review
The issue with third party lenses in the Fujifilm ecosystem is the Fujifilm itself. They making good lenses and situation is same if you going to shop 7artisan lenses and put them on a Leica M10 P. To be honest I don't see much of the competition for Fuji when Sigma or Tamron step in .Maybe on a long tele end but normal primes are no match to Fujifilm fast glass.
please compare this lense with xf 35mm f1.4
Why would the 33 f1.4 allow for more light when stopped down to the same aperture? At f2 they should be roughly equivalent.
F or aperture value is the ratio of the system's focal length to the diameter of the entrance pupil. It says nothing about the quality of glass used or amount. To measure light, manufacturer's would need to use t-stops.
@@AndrewGoodCamera You shot with both lenses at f2 and you got the same histograms, and that only means that they both let the same light through at that aperture. Where did you get the "only half stop brighter" result from? You should have set the Viltrox at f1.4 for that comparison.
@Emotion Blur, I did NOT get the same histogram. The 35mm f2 allows more light in at f2. Many people miss the fact that f-stop does NOT measure light allowance. Different lenses will allow different amount of light at the same aperture, as is the case here. The Viltrox is a bout a half a stop darker at f2. Hopefully that makes sense.
I don’t think the 33 f1.4 is worth it. Lenses these days are tack sharp wide open even at f1.2. Its just not sharp enough at 1.4.
I also wouldn’t get the 35 f2 as it just doesn’t have enough subject separation plus I don’t like how tiny it is. The XF 35 1.4 is old and I don’t like that it extends externally plus it’s over-priced.
I’d rather wait and see what Sigma or Fuji does before the end of the year.
ZEISS 32mm is your baby then F1.8 and super sharp. (but a bit on the expensive side.