Viltrox 23mm 1.4 & 33mm 1.4 perfect video on FUJI?
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Are the Viltrox 23mm 1.4 and Viltrox 33mm 1.4 lenses perfect for shooting video on FUJI X? A lot of videographers are thinking they could be. They are wrong, but also right. In this video I'll share two reasons they don't work great, but six reasons they do work great. Several are compelling reasons over the current Fuji fast primes like the XF 23mm 1.4 and the XF 35mm 1.4.
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Sigma and Tamron quickly need to enter fuji market now that fuji opened their xmount
sounds like sigma will be this year! hopefully
That’s one thing I really really don’t like about modern lenses in general. The focusing ring & aperture ring don’t actually physically move the lens elements or the aperture blades. They send a signal to the camera, which sends a signal back to the lens to move the focusing motor/aperture control module. I find the manual focusing especially to be rather obtuse compared with using vintage glass.
As someone who just made the change to the Fujifilm I've had my eye on these. I'm glad to finally start seeing a review or two on this Viltrox lenses.
I switched up my game to Fuji and bought the XT4.. don't have a lens yet 👀
It's great to have choice - this is what I missed with Fuji as 3rd party lenses were practically non-existent (yeah, Zeiss lenses with a horrible price don't really count). I hope Sigma also enters eventually with their APS-C lineup. Also Tokina lenses will be released in the autumn, with the same lens design as Viltrox, but probably with a better quality control and external design but they will be more expensive.
Think out of the box. I just bought a Hasselblad lens on ebay for 400. That's Zeiss at it's best, and since the throw is bigger than the Fuji sensor, you're getting the very best of the lens on the sensor.
I just got myself a Fujifilm xt1, coming from Sony a7 im quite excited to get into the Fuji system at last, since I didnt enjoy Sony whatsoever. Ill be adapting Some vintage glass for the moment, but my plan is yo acquire a 23 and 35 f2 alongside the 56 1.2. This Will take time for sure, but Im Happy to move into a system that inspires me to keep on shooting.
Awesome review Andrew! Cheers from Spain!
Excellent review sir. I have both of the Viltrox's and both of the equivalent F2 Fuji's. Andrew, your review is spot on. I find that I can really smooth out the focus on the Fuji F2 lenses by slowing it down in the custom focus settings. On the Viltrox lenses no matter how low you go on focus speed - they always do that snapping behavior when they continuous autofocus and acquire focus. I am using these on the XT4.
Same behavior with the Viltrox 85mm. That's why for video, I think the Viltrox is only good manually focused or if you're shooting a talking head.
I just switched over to fuji. Got the xt4, sold my 5d mark iv. Also got the Leica m mount adapter. The voigtländer 21mm 1.8 Ultron gives lovely images. So glad I switched to fuji! Might look into getting some new lenses but your videos are very informative and helped me make the decision to switch to fuji!
What adapter did you get? Any recommendation for Leica m?
Ryan Tong, Fuji makes an M mount adapter, the only adapter they make.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/867543-REG/Fujifilm_16267038_M_Mount_Adapter_for.html
@@ryantongs For adapting Leica or Voigtlander M mount lens get a close focus adapter. Normally those m lenses have a MFD (minimum focus distance) as 70cm with the close focus adapter that mfd will reach about 25cm. Search ebay www.ebay.com/itm/LM-FX-Macro-Tube-Ring-Helicoid-For-Leica-M-Lens-to-Fujifilm-X-Lens-Mount-Adapter/223354986813?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D7df3ec65ca9c4ec3a3160f405f560ac9%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D282543671936%26itm%3D223354986813%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109
GREAT information! Also I enjoyed the Family Video. You’re doing the Fujifilm Community a great service! 🙏🏾
Wonder how they would look on my XT 3 So glad I saw this video thank you so very much always a pleasure always learn something
Autofocus will probably be faster.
Woah, no comparison when it comes to f2’s? I’ve got terrible results using 35mm f2 with the X-T4, it was so laggy even using manual focus I couldn’t believe. The kit 18-55 on the other hand was perfectly smooth.
Funny, I'm noticing better autofocus when I'm in shutter priority. Using the 16-50. No errors. I suppose I should list every other setting in my sub menu, but...
Ayyyyy finally an answer to my frustrations and a new lens at the TOP of my wish list. Thanks for the shout out and the great content!
Thank you!
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Hey Andrew! Just wanna let you know Viltrox has new firmware 1.07 yesterday! They claimed that it fixed the too snappy video focus transition problem, as well as the sudden focus lost issue. (see below). Would you mind quickly testing this again and let me know in the comment? I am wondering if I should get the 23mm Viltrox or the Fuji F2 23mm. Many Thanks! Will that change your conclusion about these two lens for video as comapred to the Fuji F2 Prime? Espeically the 23mm Viltrox vs 23mm F2 Fuji?
23/33mm F1.4 STM X mount V1.0.7 firmware upgrade
This firmware is a common firmware for both Viltrox AF 23mm f1.4 and Vitrox AF 33mm f1.4.
V1.0.7 Update Information
1. Optimized the performance of video focus, on the bodies with adjustable focus speed focusing will be smoother.
2. Fixed the problem that the focus suddenly does not respond on video focusing.
Hey @Isaac, what did you eventually go for? Having the same problem of choice right now. Curious to hear your opinion. Cheers!
@@bernardzitzer hey! I got a 2nd hand version of the Viltrox 23mm f1.4. Just for the dof. The video autofocus is pretty good. Please note that I am a videographer, so absolute optical quality or sharpness is not what I am going for. I guess the FUJI has better optical quality.
Another reason that I didn't go for the fuji 23mm f2, is that, a F2 in ASs-C is like 2.8 in full frame, which is nothing really special. So I juse the viltrox 1.4 just when I really want some wide angle shot with dof.
@@IsaacFromHK Wow! That was quick, thank you! Perfect, I'm also going to shoot video mostly, so your answer is exactly what I was hoping for. Ordered today! Big thanks!
@@IsaacFromHK and just checked out your Channel. Good stuff! Welcome to Germany. Say hi any time, another Fuji Fan living in Berlin! :) Cheers
@@bernardzitzer hey Bernard! you are welcome! I am now based in Berlin too! would be cool to meet up as there are not many fuji videographer in Berlin! Feel free to send me a PM
I think the biggest reason most of us were looking at viltrox lenses is the focus breathing. Making a video when your camera is constantly saying "hey what's that over there? lets go check it out for a couple seconds for no reason" is impossible. I don't know too many people that change their aperture during filming. It's not the easiest way to adjust exposure and it will throw your field of view around. Better to adjust iso or use a variable nd filter. IF you do adjust aperture it's probably only a couple stops anyway, so the stepping won't be a dealbreaker.
is there focus breathing with the viltrox?
I was about to type a question about varying reviews on the Viltrox, but you made a great point about up-and-coming manufacturers not getting each copy to match exactly.
I own two Viltrox lenses for Fujifilm, the 85mm f/1.8 and 33mm f/1.4. Both very capable sharp and fast AF lenses for stills. I also own all of the Fujifilm fixed focal length lenses and they have less CA than the Viltrox do. You can repair the CA in post of course. The new firmware version 1.0.6 seems to improve the aperture issues somewhat.
How much worse the Viltrox CA is? I am thinking about buying the more expensive Fujinon 23mm f1.4 just because of that strong CA of the Viltrox, it looks awful.
It's always hard whether to get a certain lens or not. Good to know I use canon myself
anyone struggling with the autofocus speed? it doesnt make a difference if i set the speed in the x-t3 body to minus 5 or plus 5, it's always extremely fast and snappy. i ain't even mad because thats actually a good thing haha, but why dont these settings work with the viltrox?
Hey Andrew ;)
Thanks for the video.
In deed I've been keeping my eye on that 33mm..ever since it was rumoured. I still have my doubts though..as it is much bigger in size, compared to the 35mm 1.4 fujinon.
What do you reckon?
Are you not keeping them due to that reason too...or is it an amalgamation of several factors?
I'm a still in the lookout for a tele prime, for my Fuji system.
Thanks again for the video, and the data you offered us, on these lenses.
PS: I noticed that your mic(s) have quite a bit of noise. (I mean in the 1st part of the video, and not when you're doing the sound test on the AF motors..naturally.)
What are you shooting with? It seems to being the camera's preamps that are not doing a great job.
Its either that or the mic itself.
You're not using an external audio recorder right?
Will you be covering the 85mm f1.8 auto Viltrox lens?
I got the Viltrox 33mm, my copy arrived dead :( - There's about a one in 30 chance it'll start up correctly, otherwise the body just reboots constantly. So far Viltrox haven't agreed to replace it, and it's been a month of emails now.
Pretty sure you can turn off the vignetting correction for the fujifilm lenses as well. I believe its an option in the menu called peripheral illumination correction
nice review as always - focus distance a bit long - for price they are great for stills - yes aperture ring a bummer - want more of a click vs like old 35mm F1.4 loose aperture ring - so I guess we get what we pay for -
Nice one Andrew. When you do your review of the 23mm 1.4 can you test its brightness wide open compared to the Fuji 1.4? I’ve heard it might be a stop darker which negates one of the key advantages over the f/2 version.
I own the Viltrox 23 1.4 and im wondering the same, no other 23mm to compare it against though.
I don't know if it's been mentioned already but if you don't want the exposure to do the stepping adjustment, you can just set the shutter speed and aperture manually and let ISO go auto. You should expose for the bright scene first though with the help of an ND filter. Useful if you have a shot that requires you to go from a bright to dark environment (v.v.).
It's better, but the ISO steps also, slightly. I've verified this with each new Fuji release.
@@AndrewGoodCamera Hmm weird. On my X-H1 and previously on the X-T3, I didn't have that problem anymore. Tried it on my H1 right now with the 35 and 56 and there was no stepping with auto ISO with both S.S. and Aperture locked down.
Very helpful video! Thank you so much.
Very nice review. I just received Viltrox 23 f1.4 today and not tested yet. How is the picture quality of both lens? Are they comparable to Fuji FX 23mm f1.4 and 35mm f1.4?
Is the aperture on your Viltrox 23 non-symmetrical? Especially around f5.6? Me and a few others online have noticed it, and Viltrox says this is "normal"
Would love your input
Wow. You're right. In fact, it's worse on the 33 1.4. Thanks for the comment!
What does that mean, and what implications might that have?
@@MrJed_s The shape of OOF (out of focus) light points will be non-symmetrical at those f numbers. Not a big issue at all or something that makes me to avoid using the lens.
Hey Andrew, just FYI. Both of the links for the Viltrox lenses are for the 23mm.
Hey Andrew there is second version of the lens with silver lettering. Video AF should be greatly improved, making it on par with xf23 f2. Can you test one sample
got 23m only 280 nice
I've been testing these lense as well. I have the same issues like you mentioned. Nothing to complain about image quality, just AF function and clicky apeture are annoying...
Fuji needs 3rd party lenses and they deny it... what a shame...
Fuji has recently announced that they will be opening up to 3rd party lenses.
@@AndrewGoodCamera That will be fantastic, hopefully sigma will notice that.
Dope content as always keep it up🙌🏾
Appreciate it
Bought the 23! Love it. Just have to use a gimbal and manual focus to get sexy shots.
Why manual focus?
Blancorazon Wedding no good reason. I just prefer touch to focus sometimes vs continuous.
I'm considering the Fuji 23mm f2 for my XT4 or the Viltrox 23 1.4. sucks that the click-less aperture on the Vx lens is not represented as smooth since the blades aren't smooth. that's a bummer for video. it makes no sense to provide a clickless ring if it is not in fact smooth. that may be the reason i get the fuji.
I am wondering if a firmware upgrade would change it?
sir which lens is best for videography???
Andrew....can you please post a link to the ND freewell filters for the XT4? Thanks!!
Oh good thinking. Added
Saludos desde Mexico!!. Buen video, muy instructivo. Una pregunta, ¿y qué opinion tienes de los sigma 16,30 y 56mm para fuji? ¿ y qué opinas de los lentes tokina para fuji? Son mejores que viltrox? Esperamos tu respuesra sincera
I am a beginner and I am planning to get my first prime. I find myself taking lot of pics around 35mm mark using my kit lens. Would you suggest me to get a viltrox 33 f1.4 or a Fuji XC 35 f2?
I would humbly suggest the XC f2. I have had fuji cameras for about 4 years now. The XC is a very small and light lens, which you might find pleasantly liberating. (The viltrox lenses are larger and heavier than the 18-55 kit lens I believe.) Also, at $199 USD it is probably the cheapest lens with autofocus you can find, yet is very similar in performance to the more expensive XF 35mm f2 WR. Finally, I personally would stick with Fuji brand lenses for AF until viltrox irons out all the issues with their new lenses. (The Viltrox lenses occasionally cause damage to some Fuji cameras - for example, see: www.msn.com/en-in/money/technology/viltrox-lenses-can-damage-fuji-x-pro3-camera-model/ar-BB145sWy)
Have to agree Joe on this and for the same reasons. The XC 35mm F2 is probably the best choice for you. The speed difference is not that important really, and the size and weight of the XC will make the camera much smaller and lighter which means you'll be carrying it more and shooting with it more. Shooting often, and in more situations, is much more important than a stop of light on a standard prime for a beginner. Plus, the AF with just work without issues and hiccups.
Does Fujinon 23mm f1.4 controls the CA and fringing better than the Viltrox 23mm f1.4?
Actually, how much better is Fujinon? 😃👍
Nobody is discussing the weight. This 33mm is a lot heavier than the Fuji 35 f1.4 which is really too bad for travel. It's like 165g vs 270g or something like that.
Very useful. Thanks.
What about the chromatic aberration in video ?
If you have to choose one, which one do you prefer for casual and family, viltrox 23 or xf18-55mm? I have xf18-55mm, and it's good enough for shooting in a good lighting, but for low light especially at night it's unusable,. Thanks
When you say they are a good option for people "getting into video with fuji" does that mean it cannot do a "pro job" ? What would be a fuji pro video lens? Not too much to choose from what I've seen....
Unfortunately, unless you adapt and manual focus, I'm not really satisfied with any lens options for video on Fuji.
I'm about to buy a camera but, i can't decide between a Sony A6400 and a Fuji X-T3. My biggest reason against the Fuji is the price (as a whole system), but if i win one these lenses (and if you ship it to oversees), it's pretty much set :)
Sony A6400 has micro USB and not USB-C. It might sound like a minor point, but everything else in my life is USB-C (Laptop, Phone, Wireless mouse etc.) and I have one cable to rule/charge them all. Less clutter in my life. Hence I decided to go with Fuji.
@@IamAlexNick Interesting point, i didn't know that. :) Thank you
Hello thanks for sharing, I see in that video where there is and the light is very soft, but how to behave with strong light and against? Any red flare like the one in the viltrox 1.4? Which one do you recommend? I do wedding photography and I like against light, which would be the right choice for the 23mm f2Fuji or the Tokina 23mm ATX-M f1.4
Hello Andrew, not sure if you've tested but do you know how many addional stops down can you get on the viltrox 23 f1.4 vs Fuji 23 f2? I was a bit dissapointed with 35 mm battle results. Thanks for this kind of great videos!
hi im thinking of getting either the 33 or 23mm f1.4. which do you think would a better choice to pair with my 18mmf2 fuji lens?
If I only had one, which one do you prefer? 23 or 33?
Which of the 2 do you recommend for video?
Hi Andrew, as I see in your test, the viltrox 33 seems to rack focus smoothly, however the 23 doesn't, am I right?
I do think and hope you could make another comparison or mention the more budget XC 35mm f2 that recently was released this year as well. would someone consider getting the cheaper XC version or the Viltrox? not sure if those two are the same price or one is cheaper than the other?
could someone help explain more about focus breathing or not natural movements - could the solution be done in the AF settings in the camera that one setting is better than others? Could the "negative" aspect you mention still be a positive for other kind of work?
though i personally would choose the Viltrox 23mm to have low light photography while later getting the XF 35mm f2 (later) because its the cheapest of the XF f2 primes hahaha.
lastly is the 85mm still good to pick up today?
thanks for this video, im trying to film with the viltrox 23mm/1.4 on a fuji xt200 and can't get video as it "breathes" in and out of focus with my heartbeat! Is that what you mean by focus breathing? It makes all the film unuseable so far :( trying to work out what im doing wrong.
Ey man! You used extreme bokeh! With awesome results! Don't tell me it was only to show off the chromatic aberation
The car, is it an upgrade? The hightech wrangler feels like a Leica M with eye- and chest-enlargement algorithm, automated for optimized instagram feedback
23f1.4 is value king. Think about full frame 35f2 usually priced 3times of the basic nifty fifty 50mm f1.8
great review
Andrew, thanks for the review. I know you have plan for the 23mm 1.4 review but I have a quick question. Earlier in the 33mm 1.4 review, you mentioned that the AF-C is working pretty good. I am trying out the 23mm 1.4 and the AF-C tracking of my daughter was really bad compared to my XF23mm 2.0. Did your copy of the 23mm 1.4 performed comparable to the 33mm 1.4 in the AF-C? I'm wondering whether my copy is a defective one or if this lens(23mm 1.4) generally have problem in the AF-C mode.
Make sure you have updated the firmware
@@AndrewGoodCamera It is the 1.06. Did your copy perform good?
Great review, Andrew. Could set the Fuji to "shoot without lens" and use then aperture ring manually?
No
Bummer. I wonder why it's there?
Very helpful video. I am a beginner waiting for my x-t4 to arrive in the mail in 2 days. Would you say that the 23 or the 35 is a better choice as a starting point for general all-around use for shooting family videos?
I would humby suggest the 23 - the wider angle of view is much better for families and kids (and for general all around shooting). However, if you are trying to take a still portrait (photo, not video) of someone, then the 35 would be more flattering. So it kind of depends! If you have ONLY the 35mm, you are going to miss some shots, and it will be too tight for group shots, wider shots (of disney world, mountains and vistas, famous buildings, etc). (Speaking from experience, my X100F with its 23mm lens is my usual travel and low-key camera, but I have an Xpro3 with the 18-55 and sometimes 35mm as backup, and only bring my 56mm if someone specifically asked me to take their photo.)
Cool. I have been waiting for these. I'm a little concerned that the 1.4 light gathering isn't as 1.4 as it should be though. I've heard mixed opinions about it, and I really like the 1.4 light gathering. I think the 33 would be my choice because I'm feeling less than enthusiastic about the speed and reliability of my 35f1.4 these days.
I don't have stats, but it's probably closer to a t1.8 or t2. Photo lenses don't always have good transmission.
Beautiful Utah ! I miss that place ;)
Was that Lake Powel ?
Sand Hollow
Is it just me or does the focus look back focused on the wood? Looks very soft to me on your face. Don't see it hunting so I'm assuming maybe just off a tad on manual?
You don’t pay attention. He mentions it @1:32
Yay new video
hey, how would you compare the 33mm 1.4 to Fuji XC 35 f2 for video? The Fuji XC is even cheaper than the Viltrox, and I wonder if the extra stop at 1.4 worths it. Thanks
The Fuji XC 35 f2 is horrible for video. It has a lot of breathing when doing AF.
I upgrade from my x-t1 to x-t3 soon. I already have the 18-55mm, but don't know which lenses to buy. The f2's are great for autofocus, but they aren't stabilized. Gonna use it with the ronin sc. In terms of the focal lenght and the OIS the 55-200mm would be good, but because of the aperture i rather need some prime lenses. What do you guys suggest?
You don't really need OIS if you're running on a gimbal. The IBIS could counter-act the gimbal and give jitters.
I personally like the 85-90mm (135mm on full frame) look for shooting small events. The 50mm (75mm ff) look is also pretty good for b-roll.
Depends on what you shoot. Close up shots of people? Landscape? Night time? Fashion? Product?
They all require different lenses.
Call me crazy but if you put a strip of Gaffer tape over the contacts would you not have manual override? I am not brave enough to try it but just a thought for someone with more courage.
Then the aperture just wouldn't work
@@AndrewGoodCamera because its fly by wire! I see what you mean. I was thinking analog.
Hi Andrew, Have you ever tested the new Meike 35mm 1.4 for Fuji?
Hello Cristiano. I'm using it with xt3, perfect small lens, everything is great with.
rabbits are good. Like the kids. Thank you for the video, Andrew
I am a bit lost on the aperture ring part. So does this lens allow you to manually adjust the aperture at all? Or it's just it doesn't click? Thanks
Doesn't click
I'm just wondering. Are there any truly great 35mm equivalent lenses for Fujifilm? XF23F2 is soft wide open (had it and sold it) and XF23 f/1.4 has mixed reviews and is getting old. I hope it's one of the mark II lenses that Fujifilm is planning to make. Any suggestions until then?
Not sure what mixed reviews you've heard about the 23 1.4. For me it's been a solid performer and I have no complaints. And the x100v has a killer 23mm f2 on it.
I liked A&D more back when, before it became the Fuji channel :(
We aren't nor have we ever been a "Fuji channel". though we have always had a majority of our videos be Fuji related because.its what we shoot. But it's okay if that's not for you. no pressure to watch
I don't even own any fujis anymore. I don't know why I'm watching this. Just cuz I like your photography and thoughts on things! Keep doing good work!
Hello Andrew! I would like to know your opinion about the viltrox 23 for photography (portrait). If you could compare it with the fuji 23 1.4 (the bokeh especialy). Does it worth to buy the fuji one or do you think that viltrox is able to do the same (or almost same) job as the fujinon? I am not decided which one to choose for portrait. Thank you :) Robert
Review coming soon...
@@AndrewGoodCamera Perfect! :) What a good news :)
how does one apply to win one of these??!?! I have a a110 lens 23mm which has 2,8 fixed aperture. XD
Thanks a lot was confused on witch camera to get Becasue of the lenses canon m6 ii or the Fuji xt4
Not even close go with the xt4!
X-T4 for sure. With the Fringer adapter, you can use so many good EF glass.
And the dual SD slots (even for a casual shooter, losing an entire day of content will be sad), 10 bit video, better controls, almost no overheating (m6 ii overheats in 40mins).
EF-M mount is dead. Deader than m43. Canon is only supporting RF now cos that's where the big money will come from.
Can anybody tell me what is so special about Fuji lenses from a general perspective of view. I have read here and there that Fuji makes superb quality lenses, yet when I watch detailed reviews like this one, I realise they have many flows, especially the older ones. So what makes them special? If that's really the case. I don't mean to cause any debates, I am just trying to understand as I am a newbie 😁
They are photography lenses, not videography lenses. If you're taking stills they have some superb lens options. I wouldn't say they are better than the best Canon L or Sony G-Master lenses. But some of them can hang.
Would this be great for UA-cam talking head videos in your opinion?
Yup!
@@AndrewGoodCamera thank you!
First and foremost... Yup, I agree with the one child... Dad's doing a slow focus pull along the sand... Throw ourselves into the shot! :P
Second, oooooh, a new set!
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👀 23mm 1.4
I hope you get the new metabones speedbooster! You’d be the ideal person to review that!
hey. I'm kind of upset that you are out of focus all the time at the beginning of your review? it may be ?
sigh
Are these lenses focus by wire?
Yup
Focus! Focus! Focus! 🤣🤣🤣 Great video, great information. Thank you!
Nice review.But what i really wanna ask if your bunnies gnaws on every wire and furniture in your house?
Just talking and no image samples - not so good.
1st! Great informations as always! 👍😊 your sub from Italy😊
Can't you tape some of the contact points so there is no aperture feedback but there is autofocus?
Nope. Aperture must be changed digitally
@@AndrewGoodCamera Oh shit really. Just realised.
You can't do any videos on Fuji with their battery life, unless 14 minutes max video is o.k with you,
i came here to give punishm....................................................................................................
Would love to use these on the X-Pro 3 😩
Don't do it! ;)
Andrew & Denae :(
Now mark ii is fit for xpro 3
@@AndrewGoodCamera why not?
@@lol-vq8dh they've corrected it now, but the early versions of the Viltrox lenses scraped against the x pro iii lens release button
Looks like Utah sand.
Great Great review, but you are blur
Hey, was just watching over someone’s shoulder who is interested in cameras.
Do you know who you look like??
Honey Boo Boo’s daddy. And I hate even admitting I know what he looks like!