I loved that Vhagar hesitated to follow Laena's order. It's one of the few times we've witnessed an emotional intelligence from a dragon thus far and I love it!
@@wisterio.musicgeek just don’t say things that are not true like it’s a fact. People won’t like it regardless of them being “toxic fans” or not. I’m pretty chill and even I cringed a little at your comment. Anyone who watched GoT can remember a lot of emotional scenes between Dany and her dragons, there’s even an emotional scene between Tyrion and the dragons... How is that “one of the few”.
I like how they showed the young boys oblivious to the family's quarrels. The ones you'd think are against each other get on quite well, but their families have to remind them they should not be so friendly.
it was nice seeing them get along. I thought aegon came across as a pos during the preview. But he wasnt that bad in this episode. Alicent will change that unfortunately
Like the look of Vhagar they have; not only is she absolutely massive, she looks old and, well, gnarled. She shows how dragons in this world keep growing until they get so big that physics can't maintain them and then they die.
@@ahmarcamacho8404 go back and watch the scene where Jon pets drogon and compare it to the scene where Vhagar burns laena. You’ll see a huge difference
@@ahmarcamacho8404 in the first 10 minutes they emphasised the size of Vhagar when Laena was riding Vhagar next to Dameon his dragon Caraxes. I think you need to get your eyes tested.
@@ahmarcamacho8404 look at her in flight with Laena on her back and compare to what Danaerys looked like atop Drogon. She's WAY bigger than Drogon ever was. In fact, Vhagar was second largest only to Balerion the Black Dread.
I'm not Team Green or Team Black, but any woman who "requests" another women who has just given birth to get up and present her baby to her is cruel and manipulative.
@@ICavalcadeI she doesnt know what alicent might have done to the baby as well, shes JUST given birth, anything could be slipped to her son and made seen as an accident or the baby wasnt healthy as they thought after birth like her brother who died soon after birth. Alicent is fully acceptant that Rhaenyra is going to kill her son for the throne, Rhaenyra might be in acceptance as well.
I love how Aegon is actually a really chill dude and the relationship he has with his nephews. They're just kids and the parents are the ones who ruin everything, just shows how hatred is thought
I love how they designed Vhagar. Not what I expected her to look like but it works. She is so old and haggard but still mighty. She looks like a sea monster more than a dragon.
I love how in the earlier part of the episode they showed how even if the dragon isn’t completely bonded and under the control of the rider, it will always follow the command of dracarys in one go. Vhagar hesitating and refusing to follow the command initially shows how much Vhagar was emotionally bonded with Laena and the intensity of the bond between a rider and their dragon. Great writing.
@@CyrilNarayan Firstly, valyrians aren't immune to fire at all it's a D&D bullshit from Game of Thrones, secondly you need to get your eyes tested because in that scene she doesn't go through the fire of Vhagar but Daemon does. Thirdly, that fire blast couldn't be as hot as one on ground, it's at high altitude and there are no support for fire to gain in heat, simple physics
I don't particularly have any sympathy for Rhaneyra either. She's trying to get her bastard to become the king after her. That's exactly what Cersei tried to do with Joffrey.
This was an amazing episode. And my heart is breaking about Harwin, and especially Laena. I sooo wish we'd had more time with them both. I wanted to see/hear about how Laena came to be Vhagar's rider; and see more of her relationships with both Rhaenyra & Daemon. But that last scene with her & Vhagar...the most powerful in the series. It was a cathartic contrast to the first episode, with Aemma’s life decided for her by men. Laena went out on her terms, with her she-dragon. And Vhagar’s reluctance to follow her command (the closed captions called her noises “wailing) thoroughly gutted me. It’s hours later and I still feel bummed. 😭
There was a scene they apparently shot showing how Laena claimed Vhagar but they ended up cutting it out of the show. It may come out as one of the deleted scenes later though
Everything about this episode was way to rushed imo. They did a huge leap forward, but failed to show or explain how most of these events happened. How did Harwin father 3 kids with the princess, Daemon/Laena, and the things you mentioned. So much potential just skipped in the 10-15 years passed since the last episode, for what? Why this big jump in time? I think they should have added a couple of episodes between this and the previous one, to let the characters develop, build the relationships and give us time to get to know them before they get killed off. Oh well
@@Mrlonefighter I agree. If you haven't read the relevant book chapters in Fire and Blood a lot of its terribly confusing. However I do understand they had to do the time jump as in the book nothing of significance really happens for a whole ten years (no one very important dies) aside from the secret affair and the birth of her three sons which wasn't worth having a whole episode for. The main event they are setting up for at the end of the season is the focus and if they were to include all these scenes the show would probably only start at season 2 with the "time jump".
It's really sad because you can see Allicent helping create the situation she fears. She is conniving and treating Rhaenerya like shit, ensuring enmity between them. If she tried to make peace instead of dwelling on childhood drama it could help avoid war. She's so caught up in her own mania. She's putting her children in more danger by acting so hostile. It seems she cares more about propriety than her own family.
I know right, all this war to come because a teenager was manipulated by her father and her bff lied to her about getting laid. When you think about it’s kind of silly
Both actresses played Allicent beautifully and both brought their own distinct personalities to their roles, dare I say this could be superior than GoT?
@@sillythingsme186 I don't get why Alicent was so hurt by Rhaenyra not telling her her business. That situation had nothing to do with her. And she's just a hypocrite if Rhae should have told her about having sex she should have told her her father sent her to seduce Viserys she has no moral highground on Rhae. And deep down she resent Rhae for getting away with stuff just because of her status.
@@petuliaakue3638 I think what she's more angry about is that her father had to leave her on her own because Rhae decided to wonder off and lie about it which led to her father being exiled and Rhae got away with no repercussions. The worse part is that Rhae didn't just lose her virginity and lied about it but, lost it to someone Alicent liked romantically even though Rhae knew about it. Still petty in my book, it's not like Rhae got Alicent's father killed or something.
You can see Laena’s death really shook daemon. I think he really understood laena is a perfect woman for him. Fierce, loyal and constantly lifting him up cuz i really see daemon having self esteem issues in this episode. Her death was so emotional.
I pointed out in a thread that maybe Daemon did have feeling, no matter how small, for Laena. That he isn't just a cold, grey, ambitious person. Surely he must have felt some compassion for her. Someone refuted it saying all Daemon cares is position and power, that he could never feel anything for anyone outside Rhaenyra, making an example of how he killed Rhea Royce. Now that scene where he tries to stop Laena and the worry in his voice, that just proved that person wrong, I think
Protect Olivia Cook at all costs, any scene with Alicent is so filled with repression so close to explode I need moreeee, rhaenyra continues to be a multilayered mess and I love it
@@kristoffsamm10 I don't particularly have any sympathy for Rhaneyra either. She's trying to get her bastard to become the king after her. That's exactly what Cersei tried to do with Joffrey.
The time jump was so seamless and transitioned very well, the actresses Emma D'Arcy and Oliva Cooke were brilliant. The showrunners have done an incredible job so far.
It is sad to see Daemon in this calm, not manipulative mood..He is born to make the chaos and to rule it. Can’t wait to see him in action in upcoming series. Matt Smith is so good in acting the Daemon. He’s surely the most charismatic actors in GOT universe.
he's GRRM's favorite character in the entire throne's universe. yet the show has made him somehow muted. from the deviation of house velaryon from GRRM's books to the adult rheanys and alicent, the casting has been downright awful. daemon's casting is also a bit underwhelming as he's more handsome in the books while matt smith looks kinda weird.
@@rubababagirova5851 , lol no he's not. i wouldnt brag about thousands of people. most people are not smart and cannot think for themselves hence the media's power. matt smith as daemon even though he doesnt match the looks of book daemon has been fine. he's won me over. that's not even the biggest problem with the show. its the casting of house velaryon which has thrown everything off base. its ruining viewer immersion because its totally unrealistic. in GRRM's fantasy world, and in our real life world.
Thanks for the breakdown. That was intense, especially Leana. I didn’t see THAT coming. Both Emma and Olivia were fantastic. I never read any of the books and the series is not meant to follow it exactly. Martin is behind the scenes so I’m sure these changes are approved by him
The events in Fire and Blood are not 100% accurate because it's a historical book written by an archmaester with several sources, sometimes he's not sure of what really happened and the show is supposed to be what really happened and as you said GRRM works on the show so it's definitely canon.
@@dv9239 , lol. this is not GRRM's work. they just gave him producer credits. look at who directed and wrote the episodes. its not GRRM. i dont remember GRRM's books showing black people in white dreadlocks. i dont remember the books depicting nearly every marriage as an interracial marriage. bad writing is the least of this show's problems. totally unrealistic politicized casting is its biggest problem. people can take that comment whatever way but they know deep down its true what im saying. ancient history ruling class is not what they are showing in house of dragon. GRRM did not write house velaryon that way.... its disappointing to see hbo play racial politics with this show.
@@blqest125 All they did was make the Velaryons black and somehow this "totally unrealistic politicized casting" is the show's "biggest problem". What on Earth? The casting is insignificant and doesn't really change anything. In fact, I would argue it makes the Velaryons more unique and identifiable to the casual audience. If everyone had white hair and pale skin, then a lot of new fans will likely get confused as to who belongs to which family. By having the Velaryons be black, it creates a clear discernable separation between the Targaryens and the Velaryons, and allows the dynamics between these two houses to be picked up more readily by the casual fan. How is this possibly the show's biggest problem?
@@blqest125 you are aware that this is fictional right? Even in the fictional book, Grrm states the history is written by a maester so not so accurate.. you are either stupid or an outright. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the later.
i love to see the children fooling around and teasing each other. but they see each other as friends and family. it is only through the wills of the parents that they become enemies.
I was so yearning for seeing Daemon's love for Leana. Him grieving for her, crying for her. They didn't even show him shedding a tear. In the books he did all he could to save her, flying maesters on his dragon, carried her body inside, sat vigil on her for days. But here he's almost cold with her. You can't live 8 10 years with her, fly around, have two children, and not love them
Yea Older Rhaenyra is great, especially the walk after the birth scene. She walk in pain dripping blood like a boss, holding her baby. She didn't want to give Alicent the benefit of a doubt.
"When Viserys names her heir, that comes with an understanding that she'll have to change . But that piece of information is never received." Thank you Emma D'arcy for saying so eloquently that Rhaenyra doesn't give a fuck. 😅
The back and forth between older Rhynaera and Alicient is magnificent. Also it is so obvious to see where Alicients anger grows from, it just seems like EVERYTHING works in Rhynaera's favor even when it shouldn't and Viscerys playing dumb isn't helping.
A couple of things I want them to explain is why they made Daemon out to be ignoring one of his kids because she isn’t a dragon rider when they established in show and the books that his family means everything to him, why they deleted the scenes of Daemon comforting and talking to his daughter after Laena death, why Harwin was banish but Cole who for no reason attacked and killed a guest of the king at a wedding celebration has nothing happened to him. Changing Laena death for me isn’t as bad as some of the other changes I disagree with but I think it was pointless as her death in the books has exactly the same emotional weight if not more than the show. The scene of Daemon probably crying like he does in this ep carrying her lifeless body down the stairs would have been poignant and further characterise not only Daemon but his relationship with her as been loving both ways.
I reckon Harwin wouldn't be expelled for his behavior, but what it represented in the midst of the rumors made Lyonel encourage him to leave for Harrenhal in order to preserve both of them. It was more Lyonel wanting to get Harwin away from KL than a punishment for beating Cole
Definitely wanna see how the emotional layers removed from Daemon are explained. I hope that the show doesn't just make him an oversimplified and one dimensional villain by deviating from his core values from books. His character is literally make or break for show
True. I was really disappointed with making thigs happen so fast and inconsistent. When it comes to adapting a novel and you change circumstances of acts this is where mistakes happen all the time. From novels we know that Cole harmed Joffrey during the knight tournament. But in the series he is attacking him on the wedding, which lead us to inconsistency with Harwin Strong. Such a pity. I hoped we would look into relationship between Rheanyra and Laena (as we know they were quite close and enjoyed dragonriding together). As from the perspective of everything happening now we see both Leana died wed to Daemon, Velaryon (spoiler alert) will die wed to Rheanyra and then both Deamon and Rheanyra will be married. If I was Velaryon I would be super suspicious 😅 And deleting the scene with Deamon comforting his daughters was really disappointing 😞
I love Emma as Rhaenyra, they're such a good actor. Also Olivia Cooke, Nanna Blondell, John Macmillan & Ty Tennant were sooo good too! But I love to see a fellow Non-Binary person in a main role in such a show.
The acting is so spot on! Emma showcased a not morally virtuous yet still loved and loving heir while the Olivia version of Alicent just dives into that harsh evil character filled with bitterness and hate, all the while lacking the resolve to own up to the Larys murder (abid it wasn't her intention but imagine if she just acts as if that is her plan and deals with Larys later). The contrast between birth scenes, how not only have Aemma was powerless and Laena choose her own death; but the fact that Alicent was helpless and tied down with the child in earlier episodes, yet here we see a more mature Rhaenyra walks, schemes, collects intel, and makes strategic moves right after and not "shy away" due to medical complications is really the thing that I think sets this Rhaenyra apart.
I love how Daemon was given the same choice regarding Laena as Viserys was Aemma and he refused to make the choice because he valued her. For all the shitty crap Daemon has done, I will say he values the women in his life ironically more than his brother does.
@@targaryen7029 there is something wrong with your moral compass if ceasar's cut is the same as smashing your wife's head with stone. The first one was to save baby the other for pure opportunity or rather vanity
This was a really sad but also REALLY GOOD episode, Vhagar's look is just on point, how an ancient massive Wyvern should look. I personally liked the change on SPOILERS.................. the death of Laena, you could see that even grandma Vhagar was hesitating to do it. Also since Larys was introduced I was waiting to see how he got developed (i know how he's like in the books so was waiting to see what's up in the show) and maaaaaaaaan it didn't disappoint, can already see he's just going to get better and better. Also also, someone give Alicunt a chill pill 😂 so stupid.
this was probably the worst episode of the season. i dont get all the praise this show is getting. its getting worse and worse. its nowhere near the greatness of the first season of thrones. the ridiculous politicized casting just further damages the show's quality. i mean nearly every relationship is an interracial relationship? what's going on here? ancient history tells us its nothing like that....
@@chaotictattoo , GRRM created this vast, varied supernatural world full of interesting storylines and characters from ice zombies, dragons, forrest elves, great warriors all with their own vast varied histories and none of that is conveyed.....dragons are barely shown. they finally show dragons in this last episode for more than 30 seconds. how's a couple minutes? but the show made sure to distort history with the house velaryon recasting and nearly all the relationships interracial. they made sure to convey that.
Alicent, Criston and larys are vile. They question rhaenyra's honour yet they have none. Why doesn't Criston admit that he broke his oath? Alicent speaks of decency but cole has none and is a coward. This whole episode was heartbreaking.
I so much loved Harwin for how he loved and is caring for his children . He was looking SO proud after seeing his newborn. His death made me cry :( Really wish we could have seen more of him - yes, i don´t care if it´s relevant for the story xD- . Laenor you just can love him, so supportive, he even gave harwin the time with his son
I think the hibiscus flower that Larys plucked from the bouquet after he said that Alicent should reward her is from the foreign plant in the God's woods. Such a subtle call back to that scene. I don't know it it actually implies flower as to Alicent's flower/body or a way to signal that Larys will help Alicent bloom as a "foreigner" in the keep.
I was kinda hoping they would explore how the relationship between Rhaenyra and Ser Harwin developed. Afterall, them having 3 children together is a huge plot point right? I just didn't feel THAT devastated for Ser Harwin's death as we barely explored his character. I was more sad about Lyonel, he really was a good hand for Viserys. And ofcourse, Laena... 😭
I don't think she much cared for him. Probably just used him as the side piece after ser criston refused. Even with ser criston it didn't seem like she cared much. She seems to just wants a mistress to bed to fulfill her desires.
@@cassanderrr Mm I don't know, they were some pretty intimate and loving looks between them. Rhaenyra might not have loved him, but I think she cared for him.
I love both actresses, but my God Olivia Cook is unbelievable.. Every scene with her is memorable.. What an amazing episode too. I'm loving this series so much.
When I saw Aegon standing in the window complimenting himself with the ringing of the bells, old memories came to mind. Ah! The bells of the country !!!
alicent had the nerve to tell rhaenyra she should be resting which i know was obviously in-genuine. i wish we could have seen more of harwin and rhaenyra’s development because for those not familiar with the books most would find their relationship a complete shock which i know is the point but it’s really unexpected and there wasn’t much that showed the future of them. lyonel was absolute mad killing his own father and brother but i was more surprised at how he had absolutely no remorse. i love love loved this episode this change of actors and time jump has been a win for me i was always curious to see how they would execute that and make it make sense, they’ve done so well. and now rhaenyra is going to dragonstone bro that moment she told laenor her plan i was like OH SH!T bc i know where’s it’s heading from here which is so exciting. also harwins death was so painful solely because he had such an unfair life he couldn’t be a father to his own children he had to act like a stranger to them and then got killed probably the day he got to harrenhall, that hurts i cried. laena’s was sad yes but she went out in a good way and i could tell with vhagar he was hesitant, dragons are so smart i think he realised she was going to die and she wanted to not die painfully and also as a dragon riders death, i think vhagar knew fire was the way she wanted to go and that it was like mercy, god i love him. alicent is so annoying she gets herself involved with rhaenyras affairs which don’t need to be any of her concern yet she places herself in them, understandable though considering she’s heir and alicent knows she shouldn’t have the right to act as she does
Episode 6 - A new beginning into adulthood it will take time to get used to the adjustments with new characters. This was still well written and directed and I can’t wait until next Sunday!!
I blame Otto for all of this , Alicent could of married anyone else & still had her best friend , & b4 he left after getting fired he set her on a war path against Rhae ANDD he’s coming back !! “Chaos is a latter”
I love these series because it makes everything much more human and realistic, especially compared to the last GOT seasons. The fast forward plot of each episode could have easily taken so much away from the character building, and yet I can perfectly what everyone has been going through these last ten years. I mean sir Hardwin and Laena had like two scenes each in 6 episodes and their deaths brought tears to my eyes, these few scenes were more than enough for me to feel for them.
Viserys is not “willfully blind,” he clearly knows the truth and just doesn’t want to acknowledge it because it means instability and most likely, civil war.
Loving the Rhaenyra and Daemon parallels, they truly are established as two sides of a silver coin. But to think Rhaenyra offered her child's hand in marriage really tells that if she hadn't been shunned away and right towards Daemon she could have been tamed, but alas let's see them encourage each other to set the world on fire
"Daemon is faced with the same decision that Viserys was in the pilot, and Daemon made a joke of it." Can somebody explain how he made a joke of it? It looked to me like he refused to order the death of his wife to save the child. She chose to go out on her own terms.
they are not going to completely copy the book, the tv series adaption of a book is always going different just like the main GOT series was, especially when they are trying to cram this story into 10 episodes per season
The scene in the yard reminded me of the scene from A Game of Thrones where Robb and Joffrey sparred. It wasn't in the show, but I feel like we got a bit of it here. All round this felt very early GOT, complete with the kids getting split up at the end and saying goodbye to loved ones (unknowingly forever).
I'm just here waiting for the Witch of Harrenhal to show up and take over the castle. I wouldn't be surprised if she also had a hand in Lyonel's death. He died by a mysterious fire and this woman is said to see things in fire.
All the green supporters really be hanging onto that 'decency' and 'honour' when alicent is just as hypocritical and manipulative as anyone on the blacks
Emma and Olivia really played their roles well, you can see they've matured and now knows exactly how to handle the politics. That move with Rhaenyra offering her son for Alicent's daughter to marry is pretty amazing offer. It's no wonder Alicent married her daughter off to Aegon to keep her children at the Green side (and who would want her child to marry a bastard). Can't wait for Aeamon's development, I loved him in the books and I already seeing his obsession building! Well done to the directors, to the new cast and to the rest of the team. Can't wait for episode 7 🙌
Once upon a time the commander of city's watch met the Lord-Commander of Kingsguard at tavern: -Hey, so you sleep with the queen? - Aye, you? - No, with princess. Today she gave a birth to my 3rd son. His name is Joffrey. - Congrats! My first son's name is Joffrey too.
All that I went through was worth it….all the beautiful & wonderful art that’s been created within the music, fashion & entertainment is the reward…you don’t know this is but I was emotional 🥲 you are phenomenal….life is great…beautiful…wonderful even now
Am i the only one who has his heart broken about harwin strong's death 😢, he would've played a major role in the story being the strongest man in westeros , such a great character 😢
@@neo5951 totally true , but , I talked about harwin because he'd have an impact in the events to come , yet , the directors chose to kill him anyway 🤷♂️
Please please please give some flash back scenes next season to bits we skipped over in the time jump. Moments like Rhenera and Harwins developing relationship, Deamon and Leanora exploring Essos and interacting with Rheneara, and some more moments with Alicent and her young kids.
In the show Laena said that she was ok with not being the wife he actually wanted, that she learned to live with it… and we see that Daemon is just playing a role of a content husband.. he doesn’t want to go back home because he understands that there he won’t fight his urge to have Rhaenyra, fight for the Iron throne and he pretty much looks unhappy at this point, he doesn’t want to hurt Laena, because obviously she loves him a lot, and he is a man of honour after all, but If the went went back, he probably would let her down… so, I really like that he’s pretty much indifferent to her in the show, nevertheless he is respectful to her… In the show he must be loyal only to Rhaenyra, so screw the book, cuz so far the show is so popular exactly because of their love line!
2:36 well this does not appear in the books but it is a great proposal. After all, Alicent would have a queen daughter after her and Rhaenyra. They based it on the dance scene between Jacaerys and Helaena. There are a shippeo on that. I even read a fanfic.
Spoilers ahead: Another good foreshadowing is training boys, where Crispin clearly is trying to teach Alicents children to be ready for war that is coming and the Strong is just there not quite picking up on that he board is set, the pieces are moving already. What really made this episode for me is how it cemented my dislike of Alicent, from her being the conservative anti-lgbt and anti-feminist party to her not accepting Rhenyras proposal as a peace offering but as a sign of weakness. She really, really is set on starting a war. Still I did feel a twinge of sympathy for her when Larys ensured he has her in his grasp, and when she catched her son doing High jacking towards the entire city. :D
Laena's death made me cry because Vhagar hesitated and didn't want to do it. Ugh if I am already crying I just know the future episodes are going to kill me!
I'm not satisfied by the way they killed off Laena. They made it seem like Daemon just used her as a distraction from Westeros but they were supposed to be very close
Interesting.. I've never read the books and from the show I perceived that he loved her very much. I thought that if given the choice he was going to choose her over the baby.
@@ShyJayne_bodied but he hesitated, that's why she decided to go to Vhagar. What threw me off was the last conversation they showed between them, when she said that she knew he didn't want a wife like her and he just didn't say a thing. Idk, maybe I just wanted to see more of her
I loved that Vhagar hesitated to follow Laena's order. It's one of the few times we've witnessed an emotional intelligence from a dragon thus far and I love it!
No it isn't lmao Did you even watch GoT?
you’re forgetting Drogon’s reaction when Jon killed Daenerys 😭
@@moyamarco He's forgetting quite a few reactions lol casual fans are the worst
Toxic ''fans'' who insult strangers are much worse than ''casual fans'' commenting positive stuff on UA-cam, in my world at least
@@wisterio.musicgeek just don’t say things that are not true like it’s a fact. People won’t like it regardless of them being “toxic fans” or not. I’m pretty chill and even I cringed a little at your comment. Anyone who watched GoT can remember a lot of emotional scenes between Dany and her dragons, there’s even an emotional scene between Tyrion and the dragons... How is that “one of the few”.
I like how they showed the young boys oblivious to the family's quarrels. The ones you'd think are against each other get on quite well, but their families have to remind them they should not be so friendly.
it was nice seeing them get along. I thought aegon came across as a pos during the preview. But he wasnt that bad in this episode. Alicent will change that unfortunately
@@Oakland510 He is agressive but not a Joffrey level of cruelty or anything
Aegon has no wishes to be king so he looks laid back af, alicent on the other hand
Aegon not interesting to take his sister's throne, but Alicent make that boy changed
Yeah, the queen doesn’t see it but she played a big hand in the starting of the coming war, maybe even more than anyone
I like how Helaena casually drops the line: "He must close one eye first". What a wonderful bit of foreshadowing.
That was a nice touch
what does it mean
@@heyyyzoo u will learn in the next episode
she obviously has the family gift of sight
@@demirkazanasmaz6097 no tell me now lmfaooo thats why i asked
Like the look of Vhagar they have; not only is she absolutely massive, she looks old and, well, gnarled. She shows how dragons in this world keep growing until they get so big that physics can't maintain them and then they die.
I dunno,she looked smaller than drogon when she was on the sand. The shift in scale seems inconsistent.
@@ahmarcamacho8404 are you blind
@@ahmarcamacho8404 go back and watch the scene where Jon pets drogon and compare it to the scene where Vhagar burns laena. You’ll see a huge difference
@@ahmarcamacho8404 in the first 10 minutes they emphasised the size of Vhagar when Laena was riding Vhagar next to Dameon his dragon Caraxes. I think you need to get your eyes tested.
@@ahmarcamacho8404 look at her in flight with Laena on her back and compare to what Danaerys looked like atop Drogon. She's WAY bigger than Drogon ever was. In fact, Vhagar was second largest only to Balerion the Black Dread.
I'm not Team Green or Team Black, but any woman who "requests" another women who has just given birth to get up and present her baby to her is cruel and manipulative.
She's just like her father.
She was really just requesting the baby, but Rhaenyra refused to give her the satisfaction, lmao
@@ICavalcadeI nah, she knew that making that request would make rhaenyra bring the baby, endangering her life.
I just hate alicent so much she pretends to be the perfect sweet person but she is manipulative as her dad
@@ICavalcadeI she doesnt know what alicent might have done to the baby as well, shes JUST given birth, anything could be slipped to her son and made seen as an accident or the baby wasnt healthy as they thought after birth like her brother who died soon after birth.
Alicent is fully acceptant that Rhaenyra is going to kill her son for the throne, Rhaenyra might be in acceptance as well.
I love how Aegon is actually a really chill dude and the relationship he has with his nephews. They're just kids and the parents are the ones who ruin everything, just shows how hatred is thought
I love how they designed Vhagar. Not what I expected her to look like but it works. She is so old and haggard but still mighty. She looks like a sea monster more than a dragon.
She kinda reminded me basilisk from Witcher 3
She's hideous and her sounds scare the crap out of me. I love her. Dragons aren't supposed to be cute.
Every woman felt it deep when Alicent commanded the newborn child be brought to her immediately.
I am a man and that scene made me even more Team Black than I was before 🖤
i am a man, married man whom wife now pregnant. when i see that scene, i was furious as hell
I am a man and it made me feel infuriated
*YOO.*🔥
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someone should have kicked her and the baby when they were on top of the stairs
I love how in the earlier part of the episode they showed how even if the dragon isn’t completely bonded and under the control of the rider, it will always follow the command of dracarys in one go. Vhagar hesitating and refusing to follow the command initially shows how much Vhagar was emotionally bonded with Laena and the intensity of the bond between a rider and their dragon. Great writing.
It make no sense. Laena was supposed to be protected against fire. In her first scene she go throught à big fire blast of her dragon. 🤔
@@CyrilNarayan Firstly, valyrians aren't immune to fire at all it's a D&D bullshit from Game of Thrones, secondly you need to get your eyes tested because in that scene she doesn't go through the fire of Vhagar but Daemon does. Thirdly, that fire blast couldn't be as hot as one on ground, it's at high altitude and there are no support for fire to gain in heat, simple physics
Alicent getting frustrated that her husband can’t see Rhaenyra’s children are bastards is a bit comical to me😂😂💚💚
Ignorance is bliss 🤣
It's like Mugatu in Zoolander: "Doesn't anyone else see this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!"
He knows, but he convinces himself otherwise :[
willful blindness
I don't particularly have any sympathy for Rhaneyra either. She's trying to get her bastard to become the king after her. That's exactly what Cersei tried to do with Joffrey.
Emma & Olivia are absolutely fabulous. Emma even smirks and has the same mannerisms as Milly.
This is true I still see the young Rhaenyra in Emma
This was an amazing episode. And my heart is breaking about Harwin, and especially Laena. I sooo wish we'd had more time with them both. I wanted to see/hear about how Laena came to be Vhagar's rider; and see more of her relationships with both Rhaenyra & Daemon. But that last scene with her & Vhagar...the most powerful in the series. It was a cathartic contrast to the first episode, with Aemma’s life decided for her by men. Laena went out on her terms, with her she-dragon. And Vhagar’s reluctance to follow her command (the closed captions called her noises “wailing) thoroughly gutted me. It’s hours later and I still feel bummed. 😭
There was a scene they apparently shot showing how Laena claimed Vhagar but they ended up cutting it out of the show. It may come out as one of the deleted scenes later though
series is garbage
Everything about this episode was way to rushed imo. They did a huge leap forward, but failed to show or explain how most of these events happened. How did Harwin father 3 kids with the princess, Daemon/Laena, and the things you mentioned. So much potential just skipped in the 10-15 years passed since the last episode, for what? Why this big jump in time? I think they should have added a couple of episodes between this and the previous one, to let the characters develop, build the relationships and give us time to get to know them before they get killed off. Oh well
Right. Instead of giving her child a fighting chance to live, she decided to kill both herself and the baby.
@@Mrlonefighter I agree. If you haven't read the relevant book chapters in Fire and Blood a lot of its terribly confusing. However I do understand they had to do the time jump as in the book nothing of significance really happens for a whole ten years (no one very important dies) aside from the secret affair and the birth of her three sons which wasn't worth having a whole episode for. The main event they are setting up for at the end of the season is the focus and if they were to include all these scenes the show would probably only start at season 2 with the "time jump".
It's really sad because you can see Allicent helping create the situation she fears. She is conniving and treating Rhaenerya like shit, ensuring enmity between them. If she tried to make peace instead of dwelling on childhood drama it could help avoid war. She's so caught up in her own mania. She's putting her children in more danger by acting so hostile. It seems she cares more about propriety than her own family.
I know right, all this war to come because a teenager was manipulated by her father and her bff lied to her about getting laid. When you think about it’s kind of silly
Both actresses played Allicent beautifully and both brought their own distinct personalities to their roles, dare I say this could be superior than GoT?
@@billielachatte4841 still difficult to be superior than GoT season 1-5 but it might get close to its level, it's on good path for it
@@sillythingsme186 I don't get why Alicent was so hurt by Rhaenyra not telling her her business. That situation had nothing to do with her. And she's just a hypocrite if Rhae should have told her about having sex she should have told her her father sent her to seduce Viserys she has no moral highground on Rhae. And deep down she resent Rhae for getting away with stuff just because of her status.
@@petuliaakue3638 I think what she's more angry about is that her father had to leave her on her own because Rhae decided to wonder off and lie about it which led to her father being exiled and Rhae got away with no repercussions. The worse part is that Rhae didn't just lose her virginity and lied about it but, lost it to someone Alicent liked romantically even though Rhae knew about it. Still petty in my book, it's not like Rhae got Alicent's father killed or something.
The actress who played adult Lady Laena is stunningly beautiful
You can see Laena’s death really shook daemon. I think he really understood laena is a perfect woman for him. Fierce, loyal and constantly lifting him up cuz i really see daemon having self esteem issues in this episode.
Her death was so emotional.
I pointed out in a thread that maybe Daemon did have feeling, no matter how small, for Laena. That he isn't just a cold, grey, ambitious person. Surely he must have felt some compassion for her. Someone refuted it saying all Daemon cares is position and power, that he could never feel anything for anyone outside Rhaenyra, making an example of how he killed Rhea Royce. Now that scene where he tries to stop Laena and the worry in his voice, that just proved that person wrong, I think
i will never be over it.. she's one of the best characters in the franchise. she saw and she conquered, love her
Yes, laena perfect match for Daemon
why did she kill herself ? I didn't get that part
@@theflashgordon193 They explained that in this video...
I was left literally wanting more and MORE. The acting was perfect.
kinda wished they showed more of the development of rhaenyra’s relationship with ser harwin
But shock value bro
They still can
for that theres the fanfics
I feel like showing us his relationship with his children made up for the lack of screen time he got with Rhaenyra
But audiences are saying they’re already bored. Some say it’s going too fast, others say too slow. Ugh I hate us viewers.
Protect Olivia Cook at all costs, any scene with Alicent is so filled with repression so close to explode I need moreeee, rhaenyra continues to be a multilayered mess and I love it
“If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention” -Ramsay Bolton 😪
True though, so talented, both actresses, and they did a magnificent job of being just as good if not better than their younger counterparts.
I hate Alicent 😂
@@kristoffsamm10 I don't particularly have any sympathy for Rhaneyra either. She's trying to get her bastard to become the king after her. That's exactly what Cersei tried to do with Joffrey.
@@kristoffsamm10 she gonna make the story interesting, hate her or love her the conflict will be immaculate!!
I love how they contrasted Viserys and Daemon so much even with their birthing wives... there are so much layers
Even though he goaded him into it, most satisfying part of the episode was watching Criston get his face used as a punching bag by Harwin 😅
The time jump was so seamless and transitioned very well, the actresses Emma D'Arcy and Oliva Cooke were brilliant. The showrunners have done an incredible job so far.
The time jump was horribly done. It felt like I was watching the final season of GOT all while trying to figure out who was who..
@@avand628 They only changed 3 actors, and they're not exactly similar looking.
Ok but the average fan will be confused
@@avand628 That's because you're not smart enough to figure out who was who.
@@avand628 There are like only 3 character changed and you are complaining? You have 2 brain cells or something wtf?
It is sad to see Daemon in this calm, not manipulative mood..He is born to make the chaos and to rule it. Can’t wait to see him in action in upcoming series. Matt Smith is so good in acting the Daemon. He’s surely the most charismatic actors in GOT universe.
he's GRRM's favorite character in the entire throne's universe. yet the show has made him somehow muted. from the deviation of house velaryon from GRRM's books to the adult rheanys and alicent, the casting has been downright awful. daemon's casting is also a bit underwhelming as he's more handsome in the books while matt smith looks kinda weird.
I love Matt and share your opinion. He is so charismatic, one of the 🔝
@@blqest125 well, Matt Smith is very attractive by the way. Thousands of people share the same opinion too
@@rubababagirova5851 , lol no he's not. i wouldnt brag about thousands of people. most people are not smart and cannot think for themselves hence the media's power. matt smith as daemon even though he doesnt match the looks of book daemon has been fine. he's won me over. that's not even the biggest problem with the show. its the casting of house velaryon which has thrown everything off base. its ruining viewer immersion because its totally unrealistic. in GRRM's fantasy world, and in our real life world.
It's the calm before the storm.
Alicent, echoing his father, passing on that generational trauma to her son, gave me a multitude of sadness.😪
Fans: "Wow Adult Leana is hot!"
Writers: "Well actually she can be hotter"
RIP
💀💀💀
Ripp 💀
TOO SOON
She's the best character for sure, as in the most reasonable & honorable one
She was Blazing
Thanks for the breakdown. That was intense, especially Leana. I didn’t see THAT coming. Both Emma and Olivia were fantastic. I never read any of the books and the series is not meant to follow it exactly. Martin is behind the scenes so I’m sure these changes are approved by him
The events in Fire and Blood are not 100% accurate because it's a historical book written by an archmaester with several sources, sometimes he's not sure of what really happened and the show is supposed to be what really happened and as you said GRRM works on the show so it's definitely canon.
@@mi-moon_ well that's one way to get away with bad writing
George sure is clever
@@dv9239 , lol. this is not GRRM's work. they just gave him producer credits. look at who directed and wrote the episodes. its not GRRM. i dont remember GRRM's books showing black people in white dreadlocks. i dont remember the books depicting nearly every marriage as an interracial marriage. bad writing is the least of this show's problems.
totally unrealistic politicized casting is its biggest problem. people can take that comment whatever way but they know deep down its true what im saying. ancient history ruling class is not what they are showing in house of dragon. GRRM did not write house velaryon that way.... its disappointing to see hbo play racial politics with this show.
@@blqest125 All they did was make the Velaryons black and somehow this "totally unrealistic politicized casting" is the show's "biggest problem". What on Earth?
The casting is insignificant and doesn't really change anything. In fact, I would argue it makes the Velaryons more unique and identifiable to the casual audience. If everyone had white hair and pale skin, then a lot of new fans will likely get confused as to who belongs to which family. By having the Velaryons be black, it creates a clear discernable separation between the Targaryens and the Velaryons, and allows the dynamics between these two houses to be picked up more readily by the casual fan. How is this possibly the show's biggest problem?
@@blqest125 you are aware that this is fictional right? Even in the fictional book, Grrm states the history is written by a maester so not so accurate.. you are either stupid or an outright. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the later.
i love to see the children fooling around and teasing each other. but they see each other as friends and family. it is only through the wills of the parents that they become enemies.
I was so yearning for seeing Daemon's love for Leana. Him grieving for her, crying for her. They didn't even show him shedding a tear. In the books he did all he could to save her, flying maesters on his dragon, carried her body inside, sat vigil on her for days. But here he's almost cold with her. You can't live 8 10 years with her, fly around, have two children, and not love them
They filmed his mourning & consoling his daughters, but they cut the scenes. I think we deserved to see that part of him. :(
@@sturner0721 where can I find cutted scenes?
Laena went out like a G 😭. Nothing against the guys, but the ladies were incredible and on fire (RIP LAENA 😭)
Yea Older Rhaenyra is great, especially the walk after the birth scene. She walk in pain dripping blood like a boss, holding her baby. She didn't want to give Alicent the benefit of a doubt.
I see what you did there
@@supertrendymoneymaker0722 Alicent was such a c nut for that
"When Viserys names her heir, that comes with an understanding that she'll have to change . But that piece of information is never received."
Thank you Emma D'arcy for saying so eloquently that Rhaenyra doesn't give a fuck. 😅
She brings her own downfall.
10 years had past and criston cole still bitter lmao
talk about holding a grudge 😂 still salty
He's a nutcase. Type that would have been a stalker after a breakup.
Hell have not fury like a bitchboy scorned 🤣
Rightly so , You can’t play with people and expect no consequences for your actions.
@@nathanolson3135 being a bitter lil simp 10 years after a breakup is pretty pathetic tho
I was interested in Helaena's unusual personality, sounds like she inherited something from her father as well.
Yeah, she ends up chunky and plainer looking than most Targs
Shame what happens to her
Her intense interest in the insects gave off autistic vibes.
Hope she foresees that Blood and Cheese thing and run away...
Well, I'm team black but Princess Helaena and her future children were the only ones from greens I truly like and symphatize with.
She's a dragon dreamer, just like Viserys is.
The back and forth between older Rhynaera and Alicient is magnificent. Also it is so obvious to see where Alicients anger grows from, it just seems like EVERYTHING works in Rhynaera's favor even when it shouldn't and Viscerys playing dumb isn't helping.
A couple of things I want them to explain is why they made Daemon out to be ignoring one of his kids because she isn’t a dragon rider when they established in show and the books that his family means everything to him, why they deleted the scenes of Daemon comforting and talking to his daughter after Laena death, why Harwin was banish but Cole who for no reason attacked and killed a guest of the king at a wedding celebration has nothing happened to him. Changing Laena death for me isn’t as bad as some of the other changes I disagree with but I think it was pointless as her death in the books has exactly the same emotional weight if not more than the show. The scene of Daemon probably crying like he does in this ep carrying her lifeless body down the stairs would have been poignant and further characterise not only Daemon but his relationship with her as been loving both ways.
I reckon Harwin wouldn't be expelled for his behavior, but what it represented in the midst of the rumors made Lyonel encourage him to leave for Harrenhal in order to preserve both of them. It was more Lyonel wanting to get Harwin away from KL than a punishment for beating Cole
Definitely wanna see how the emotional layers removed from Daemon are explained. I hope that the show doesn't just make him an oversimplified and one dimensional villain by deviating from his core values from books. His character is literally make or break for show
@@paolagraciano5838 I just want to know why his father felt the need to go back with him........
True. I was really disappointed with making thigs happen so fast and inconsistent.
When it comes to adapting a novel and you change circumstances of acts this is where mistakes happen all the time. From novels we know that Cole harmed Joffrey during the knight tournament. But in the series he is attacking him on the wedding, which lead us to inconsistency with Harwin Strong. Such a pity. I hoped we would look into relationship between Rheanyra and Laena (as we know they were quite close and enjoyed dragonriding together). As from the perspective of everything happening now we see both Leana died wed to Daemon, Velaryon (spoiler alert) will die wed to Rheanyra and then both Deamon and Rheanyra will be married. If I was Velaryon I would be super suspicious 😅
And deleting the scene with Deamon comforting his daughters was really disappointing 😞
@@ikeeneye To show him his duties as Lord of Harrenhal? He was in court from a long time and had been mostly a soldier till that point
I love Emma as Rhaenyra, they're such a good actor. Also Olivia Cooke, Nanna Blondell, John Macmillan & Ty Tennant were sooo good too!
But I love to see a fellow Non-Binary person in a main role in such a show.
Now this is what I'm talking about. Finally feels like A Game of Thrones. What a episode
One of the best really.
The acting is so spot on! Emma showcased a not morally virtuous yet still loved and loving heir while the Olivia version of Alicent just dives into that harsh evil character filled with bitterness and hate, all the while lacking the resolve to own up to the Larys murder (abid it wasn't her intention but imagine if she just acts as if that is her plan and deals with Larys later).
The contrast between birth scenes, how not only have Aemma was powerless and Laena choose her own death; but the fact that Alicent was helpless and tied down with the child in earlier episodes, yet here we see a more mature Rhaenyra walks, schemes, collects intel, and makes strategic moves right after and not "shy away" due to medical complications is really the thing that I think sets this Rhaenyra apart.
The actress who played Laena is so gorgeous
UGH WASNT SHE!!!!!! and so regal awesome casting. Wish there was more story for her but they gave us enough to love her
Alicent…Keep trying, maybe one day one will look like you🤣🤣
That was taken right out of the book too.
I love how Daemon was given the same choice regarding Laena as Viserys was Aemma and he refused to make the choice because he valued her. For all the shitty crap Daemon has done, I will say he values the women in his life ironically more than his brother does.
He killed his wife to get there...
Eh, both are wife killers. Daemon killed his wife in cold blood and Viserys also did the same (while he didn't want that outcome)...
@@targaryen7029 What Viserys did was blatant murder though. She was begging him to go through with it. She was probably gonna die anyways but still
@@targaryen7029 there is something wrong with your moral compass if ceasar's cut is the same as smashing your wife's head with stone. The first one was to save baby the other for pure opportunity or rather vanity
@@kmjkmjkmj Daemon good, Viserys bad? Is that the conclusion of your moral and intellectual workshop?
This was a really sad but also REALLY GOOD episode, Vhagar's look is just on point, how an ancient massive Wyvern should look. I personally liked the change on SPOILERS.................. the death of Laena, you could see that even grandma Vhagar was hesitating to do it.
Also since Larys was introduced I was waiting to see how he got developed (i know how he's like in the books so was waiting to see what's up in the show) and maaaaaaaaan it didn't disappoint, can already see he's just going to get better and better.
Also also, someone give Alicunt a chill pill 😂 so stupid.
ikr i despise her.
this was probably the worst episode of the season. i dont get all the praise this show is getting. its getting worse and worse. its nowhere near the greatness of the first season of thrones. the ridiculous politicized casting just further damages the show's quality. i mean nearly every relationship is an interracial relationship? what's going on here? ancient history tells us its nothing like that....
@@blqest125 thank you! Finally someone else who doesn’t get why people praise this and this episode. I thought this episode was the worst one too.
They are called dragons not wyverns or whatever nonsense you described them as.
@@chaotictattoo , GRRM created this vast, varied supernatural world full of interesting storylines and characters from ice zombies, dragons, forrest elves, great warriors all with their own vast varied histories and none of that is conveyed.....dragons are barely shown. they finally show dragons in this last episode for more than 30 seconds. how's a couple minutes? but the show made sure to distort history with the house velaryon recasting and nearly all the relationships interracial. they made sure to convey that.
I'll tell my kids this was S2 E01
Alicent, Criston and larys are vile. They question rhaenyra's honour yet they have none. Why doesn't Criston admit that he broke his oath? Alicent speaks of decency but cole has none and is a coward. This whole episode was heartbreaking.
I so much loved Harwin for how he loved and is caring for his children . He was looking SO proud after seeing his newborn. His death made me cry :( Really wish we could have seen more of him - yes, i don´t care if it´s relevant for the story xD- . Laenor you just can love him, so supportive, he even gave harwin the time with his son
I love that it took four kings guard to restrain Harwin! I can't wait for Criston to finally get what's coming to him!
belive me lary strong actor nailed it.
twisted wicked , all the hate that he hides in his heart and without a frown.
damn that’s just amazing
3:36 sounds exactly like Dumb and Dumber explaining writing decisions
This episode truly set the rhythm of the show .
Vhagar looks so cool
Something about Aegon patting his newphew on the back was wholesome. Aegon genuinely likes his newphews.
Viserys be like “my grandson and my daughter! What a great marriage idea” 😂
honestly better than brother and sister which was the first offer
Everytime Daenarys would say: "Dracarys", the moment was intense and memorable, now they scream dracarys left and right on all episodes.
I think the hibiscus flower that Larys plucked from the bouquet after he said that Alicent should reward her is from the foreign plant in the God's woods. Such a subtle call back to that scene. I don't know it it actually implies flower as to Alicent's flower/body or a way to signal that Larys will help Alicent bloom as a "foreigner" in the keep.
EXACTLY
3:39 "and I just felt like Laena doesn't go that way" giving me DnD vibes
Outside of episode 5 last week. Everything I've seen this season has been a classic and has been well written. This was a solid episode.
I was kinda hoping they would explore how the relationship between Rhaenyra and Ser Harwin developed. Afterall, them having 3 children together is a huge plot point right? I just didn't feel THAT devastated for Ser Harwin's death as we barely explored his character. I was more sad about Lyonel, he really was a good hand for Viserys. And ofcourse, Laena... 😭
I don't think she much cared for him. Probably just used him as the side piece after ser criston refused. Even with ser criston it didn't seem like she cared much. She seems to just wants a mistress to bed to fulfill her desires.
@@cassanderrr yeah, maybe that relationship just shows more about rhaenyra's character than anything else.
@@cassanderrr Mm I don't know, they were some pretty intimate and loving looks between them. Rhaenyra might not have loved him, but I think she cared for him.
@@elsemr Probably saw him as more like a Pet the way Omni did.
I love both actresses, but my God Olivia Cook is unbelievable.. Every scene with her is memorable.. What an amazing episode too. I'm loving this series so much.
When I saw Aegon standing in the window complimenting himself with the ringing of the bells, old memories came to mind. Ah! The bells of the country !!!
One of the sad moment of this episode is when Viserys kissed his wedding ring to Aemma
Omg emmas voice thou,such a powerful yet therapeutic someway ,loved it
alicent had the nerve to tell rhaenyra she should be resting which i know was obviously in-genuine. i wish we could have seen more of harwin and rhaenyra’s development because for those not familiar with the books most would find their relationship a complete shock which i know is the point but it’s really unexpected and there wasn’t much that showed the future of them. lyonel was absolute mad killing his own father and brother but i was more surprised at how he had absolutely no remorse. i love love loved this episode this change of actors and time jump has been a win for me i was always curious to see how they would execute that and make it make sense, they’ve done so well. and now rhaenyra is going to dragonstone bro that moment she told laenor her plan i was like OH SH!T bc i know where’s it’s heading from here which is so exciting. also harwins death was so painful solely because he had such an unfair life he couldn’t be a father to his own children he had to act like a stranger to them and then got killed probably the day he got to harrenhall, that hurts i cried. laena’s was sad yes but she went out in a good way and i could tell with vhagar he was hesitant, dragons are so smart i think he realised she was going to die and she wanted to not die painfully and also as a dragon riders death, i think vhagar knew fire was the way she wanted to go and that it was like mercy, god i love him. alicent is so annoying she gets herself involved with rhaenyras affairs which don’t need to be any of her concern yet she places herself in them, understandable though considering she’s heir and alicent knows she shouldn’t have the right to act as she does
Info : Vhagar is a She
Larys, not Lyonel
Episode 6 - A new beginning into adulthood it will take time to get used to the adjustments with new characters. This was still well written and directed and I can’t wait until next Sunday!!
So Ser Criston straight up turns Leanors' lover's face into hamburger and he walks free without punishment?
I blame Otto for all of this , Alicent could of married anyone else & still had her best friend , & b4 he left after getting fired he set her on a war path against Rhae ANDD he’s coming back !! “Chaos is a latter”
The battle for the throne has just begun.Queen Alicent true intention is becoming clear.
I love these series because it makes everything much more human and realistic, especially compared to the last GOT seasons. The fast forward plot of each episode could have easily taken so much away from the character building, and yet I can perfectly what everyone has been going through these last ten years. I mean sir Hardwin and Laena had like two scenes each in 6 episodes and their deaths brought tears to my eyes, these few scenes were more than enough for me to feel for them.
True
Viserys is not “willfully blind,” he clearly knows the truth and just doesn’t want to acknowledge it because it means instability and most likely, civil war.
Loving the Rhaenyra and Daemon parallels, they truly are established as two sides of a silver coin. But to think Rhaenyra offered her child's hand in marriage really tells that if she hadn't been shunned away and right towards Daemon she could have been tamed, but alas let's see them encourage each other to set the world on fire
I’m loving the characters after the time jump so much
"Daemon is faced with the same decision that Viserys was in the pilot, and Daemon made a joke of it."
Can somebody explain how he made a joke of it? It looked to me like he refused to order the death of his wife to save the child. She chose to go out on her own terms.
He made a joke of it when it happened to the king. “The heir for a day”
@@wally38 Thanks. The way it was worded sounded like he made the joke when he was facing the same situation.
WHAT AN EPISDOE! HANDS DOWN THE BEST SO FAR
I love that the boys are respectively wearing green and red/black
I don't know but i kinda like Daemon😂
I dont see why the king should even listen to Alicent. He can just as easily overrule her. The betrothal isnt her decision
Exactly my thoughts. But viserys wants to please everyone in his family and that's his main problem
@Rohan Chatterjee But she treats him like sh*t. How is this even allowed to happen?
All would've been fine is Heleana married Jahaerys🙄 But Alicent wanted to continue fighting, and for what? We all know how it's going to end
Alicent wont settle for that coz she know Jahaerys is a bastard.
She just signed the death warrants for all of her children...
Larys is like the serpent of eden, the magic mirror poisoning the queen
in the books, laena and rhaenyra were close, and daemon loved laena. i'm still bitter they minimized her role so much 🤦🏽♀️
Espically the part in the book where Daemon carries Laena back to bed before she dies, I'm so mad the didn't portray it that way.
Lmao it’s not “books” it’s one book, and she is a TERTIARY CHARACTER. Go write a fan fiction since that seems to be what you have in mind 😂
they are not going to completely copy the book, the tv series adaption of a book is always going different just like the main GOT series was, especially when they are trying to cram this story into 10 episodes per season
Not everything can be exactly as in the books. "Bitter", jeez, take a chill pill.
Book version is great and I'm something of a book purist, but this was great too
so we're not gonna address how the hell after the wedding alicent got criston out of getting the same type of punishment as was dealt to harwin?
I have no idea what's going to happen and I love it
The scene in the yard reminded me of the scene from A Game of Thrones where Robb and Joffrey sparred. It wasn't in the show, but I feel like we got a bit of it here. All round this felt very early GOT, complete with the kids getting split up at the end and saying goodbye to loved ones (unknowingly forever).
I can't belive nobody has said the show keeps getting better and better.. shocking !!
I'm just here waiting for the Witch of Harrenhal to show up and take over the castle. I wouldn't be surprised if she also had a hand in Lyonel's death. He died by a mysterious fire and this woman is said to see things in fire.
Emma, you are absolutely brilliant
I hate that we don’t see consequences for Criston Cole killing Joffrey in the last episode
“Decency must prevail”
Proceeds to manipulate his son to be violent and snatch birthright from rhaenyra
All the green supporters really be hanging onto that 'decency' and 'honour' when alicent is just as hypocritical and manipulative as anyone on the blacks
amazing show. just needs to slow the pace. some scenes needed more time. also whay was the ring viserys was holding?
Criston didn‘t age at all, great skincare!
Emma and Olivia really played their roles well, you can see they've matured and now knows exactly how to handle the politics. That move with Rhaenyra offering her son for Alicent's daughter to marry is pretty amazing offer. It's no wonder Alicent married her daughter off to Aegon to keep her children at the Green side (and who would want her child to marry a bastard). Can't wait for Aeamon's development, I loved him in the books and I already seeing his obsession building! Well done to the directors, to the new cast and to the rest of the team. Can't wait for episode 7 🙌
Larys be playing a deadly chess game. Alicent caught in a web now.
Once upon a time the commander of city's watch met the Lord-Commander of Kingsguard at tavern:
-Hey, so you sleep with the queen?
- Aye, you?
- No, with princess. Today she gave a birth to my 3rd son. His name is Joffrey.
- Congrats! My first son's name is Joffrey too.
The show is doing a great job of making me more sympathetic to team green. I was team black all the way before hand just from the books. Great show.
Omg same, I cant belive how people spit on alicent and Cole but glorify out of wedlock children in a medieval society.
All that I went through was worth it….all the beautiful & wonderful art that’s been created within the music, fashion & entertainment is the reward…you don’t know this is but I was emotional 🥲 you are phenomenal….life is great…beautiful…wonderful even now
Maaan that Vhagar and Laena scene 😢
The recast is amazing and Larys oh boy , my maaan
Am i the only one who has his heart broken about harwin strong's death 😢, he would've played a major role in the story being the strongest man in
westeros , such a great character 😢
Great and handsome too. A real man.
@@Butterflieslove2 yeah , and the actor himself looks really competent and skilful
Lyonel's death was more tragic, he was loyal hand, he didn't deserve that
@@neo5951 totally true , but , I talked about harwin because he'd have an impact in the events to come , yet , the directors chose to kill him anyway 🤷♂️
@@rahmaniloukay5615 harwin was barely mentioned in the books so directors just burnt him🔥
Please please please give some flash back scenes next season to bits we skipped over in the time jump. Moments like Rhenera and Harwins developing relationship, Deamon and Leanora exploring Essos and interacting with Rheneara, and some more moments with Alicent and her young kids.
yeah that won't happen lmao
In the show Laena said that she was ok with not being the wife he actually wanted, that she learned to live with it… and we see that Daemon is just playing a role of a content husband.. he doesn’t want to go back home because he understands that there he won’t fight his urge to have Rhaenyra, fight for the Iron throne and he pretty much looks unhappy at this point, he doesn’t want to hurt Laena, because obviously she loves him a lot, and he is a man of honour after all, but If the went went back, he probably would let her down… so, I really like that he’s pretty much indifferent to her in the show, nevertheless he is respectful to her… In the show he must be loyal only to Rhaenyra, so screw the book, cuz so far the show is so popular exactly because of their love line!
2:36 well this does not appear in the books but it is a great proposal. After all, Alicent would have a queen daughter after her and Rhaenyra. They based it on the dance scene between Jacaerys and Helaena. There are a shippeo on that. I even read a fanfic.
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Another good foreshadowing is training boys, where Crispin clearly is trying to teach Alicents children to be ready for war that is coming and the Strong is just there not quite picking up on that he board is set, the pieces are moving already. What really made this episode for me is how it cemented my dislike of Alicent, from her being the conservative anti-lgbt and anti-feminist party to her not accepting Rhenyras proposal as a peace offering but as a sign of weakness. She really, really is set on starting a war. Still I did feel a twinge of sympathy for her when Larys ensured he has her in his grasp, and when she catched her son doing High jacking towards the entire city. :D
Laena's death made me cry because Vhagar hesitated and didn't want to do it. Ugh if I am already crying I just know the future episodes are going to kill me!
I'm not satisfied by the way they killed off Laena. They made it seem like Daemon just used her as a distraction from Westeros but they were supposed to be very close
Interesting.. I've never read the books and from the show I perceived that he loved her very much. I thought that if given the choice he was going to choose her over the baby.
He showed affection to her in the episode
Definitely didn't get that. Daemon loved her.
@@ShyJayne_bodied but he hesitated, that's why she decided to go to Vhagar. What threw me off was the last conversation they showed between them, when she said that she knew he didn't want a wife like her and he just didn't say a thing. Idk, maybe I just wanted to see more of her
I knew Laena and Harwin wasn’t gonna make it but I woulda liked to at least have them in one more episode. Great episode though.