Corelli is reaching deep down from the depths of his soul and letting it all come out. The others are just trying to get the notes right. That is what it sounds like to me. Corelli is the best at this.
Even if i never met him and i never heard him live because of my age i just respect corelli with all of my soul he takes it each time i hear him sing , his emotions,his tecnique, his powerfull and his singing like it was his second nature make me love him as the best tenor of all times
...you're absolutely correct! Too many people have no recollections of the greatness of Corelli as they're too young. It's always some reference to Pav or Domingo, but they were not Corelli.
I saw Corelli in Trovatore circa 1961 at the Met. It was a thrilling performance and his voice carried very well in the theater. He had the ability to modulate his voice using mezza voce, diminuendo. The spinto dramatic portion of his voice was a driving vocal heroic sound most suitable for the spinto dramatic roles. I saw Domingo circa 1992 in I Pagliacci at the Met. A beautiful quality of voice but it suffered terribly when entering the passaggio and higher where at times he was almost inaudible. I think Domingo should be credited for his artistry and longevity, but I don't believe he was a great spinto tenor. Bjorling, although not suited for Calaf was an impeccable singer and a great lyric tenor. Not really fair to compare Domingo with the superior vocal gifts that Corelli had.
Excellent comment German. You hit it right on the head. Domingo of course initially trained as a baritone and anything with Bs and Cs was always a bit of a struggle. Bjorling was technically the best, but I've never heard any other tenor compare with Corelli. Thank you for your very accurate descriptions of him. My late tenor friend who I sang with for years was at the Met in the early sixties in the chorus and was on stage with Franco for 24 of his performances.
Corelli Number One- although not one of his best renditions. Source: You Tube- Corelli: Turandot (Puccini). Nessun Dorma (Act 111) Grabado en 1962. IC ASC 3013. Impossible to exaggerate the effortless breathtaking power, animal drive and visceral thrill of Corelli on stage (Live). In the moment, soaring, high risk, --EPIC. Where art needs to be.
Corelli owns this aria and opera. He has the richness & power in his voice to sing this role. The other two don’t compare. Too bad a better recording of Corelli wasn’t selected. As Pavarotti said, “ he had vocal cords of steel.”
Definitely not Bjorling's premier Nessun Dorma, the live recording in Stockholm (I believe) where he slows it down is the best performance of this song ever. Corelli is unbelievable, too, one of my favourite voices, definitely unbelievably powerful. Domingo... I was never much of a fan.
Tengamos en cuenta las calidades de grabacion.Efectivamente hay efectivamente mejores interpretaciones puestas en youtube. Ninguno es mejor.Son tres fenomenos en un aria hecha a su medida para la tesitura de su voz.¿Los tres insuperables!. Pero Corelli...¡Oh,Franco Corelli!.
I see that the one o Domingo is 10-15 seconds longer then the ones of Corelli and Bjørling. I have sunget this aria and i know that if you play it faster is much more difficult for the vocal cords, but it start laking the passion and dramatisk line you need for this aria. I prefer the ones og Corelli and Bjørling of course. PS: I have never heard Domingo reaching the high notes so well, this must be his best Nessundorma ever. Corelli sang the aria 100 times better at least a 1000 times
Bjorling as far as technical matters is concerned, is the best. But he lacks the raw passion of Corelli. Domingo has too weak of a top register to be a convincing Calaf. In my opinion, Franco Corelli still gives the definitive rendition of 'nessun dorma', large, powerful voice, genuine raw passion, and explosive upper register notes.
@TheInquisitive4Ever Well stated and true in every respect. Bjorling never sang this role as a lyric..nice recording, but not close to the power needed that Corelli had as a true spinto.
SIN NINGUNA DUDA EL MEJOR ES EL GRAN MAESTRO FRANCO CORELLI Y LO SIGUE SIENDO.Cualquier otra cosa que se crea o diga es es engañarse o estar equivocado, una cosa es que uno quiera a un determinado tenor y otra es que realmente esté siempre bién. Estas interpretaciones las he escuchado varias veces y me ha gustado más Domingo que la primera ves, lo que pasa que al lado del Gran Maestro Corelli es difícil encontrar a otro "el mejor"|. La grabación de Domingo es más potente eso sí.
Domingo sings it very well. It is well structured, hearty and clean. Yes he does'n nail on B, but for me the matter is not how long the particular sound is. And I don't understand, whats wrong with his high B. It is not bad at all. Well, but Corelli's one is better. Corelli is amazing in this role. I don't very much like him, but here he's insuperable. This is not meant for Bjoerling I think.
@GEIOMED All are good or very good tenors,but ever one have present Pavarotti's playing this aria,ans sincerelly,I believe than,specifically in Puccini,and much more in Turandot,he follow been the best.
1.Corelli "the best Calaf ever! 2.Bjorling never sang the part on stage but made a great recording -59 with Birgit Nilsson 3. Domingo I know at least ten recordings that are better than domingo´s not to mention the live performances but if you accept his high notes then wash your ears with something!
I like Björling best, but also like the Up-Glissandos of Domingo. He definitely knows how to sing it too, also Corelli, but IMO he sounds somewhat hard and loud, not so balanced as Björling.
In fact you are right. My answer was driven by exasperation hence worthless so I apologize. You see, I, as a singer, studied the singing of Björling for a long while, knowing the majority of his live and all studio recordings and moreover the technical view of his teachers. Surely some vocal pedagogues would agree, that Björling overexerted his voice from 1953 to late 1958. However that results from a laryngitis not his technical inability. Conciliatory greetings of a fervent Björling admirer!
Acepto opiniones en contrario, cada cual prefiere lo que le gusta, para mi, Placido, sin lugar a dudas, ademas de haber visto aqui en YTB su actuacion brillante en el Met 1988., que termino de convencierme...Placido, el unico.
In My Opinion, Corelli sang the role 157 times and was the greatest Calaf in my time and ever since. Bjorling recorded the opera with Nilsson but was too intelligent to sing it in the theater. Domingo wasn't really a Calaf. His high notes were always and adventure. He strains and squeezes on the B-natural, forcing an unattractive note. IDomingo had a medium size spinto voice, cutting notes and phrases short and had a reputation of transposing arias and operas beyond acceptable practices. Neither tenor could compare with Corelli's vocals and heroic dynamics, especially in Turandot.
Ma l'ultimo è Corelli? qualcuno sa perchè qui ha questo difetto di pronuncia della esse? Non l'avevo mai sentito con questo problema, e al di là di questo credo sia una delle peggiori 'nessun dorma' di Corelli... anche su UA-cam ve ne sono di molto superiori. Secondo me solo Domingo l'ha cantata davvero divinamente, tra queste tre performances.
Admiraba la voz de J.Bjorlingpero aquí se escucha como apretada, P. Domingo trata de interpretar bién, su voz no es bella, al final toma bién la nota alta,, como en casi todo, es madiocre. El Gran Maestro Franco Corelli, en la historia de la opera "Turandot" esta con siderado, por los VERDADEROS ENTENDIDOS DE OPERA Y SU HISTORIAL, COMO EL MEJOR "CALAF" ; al escucharlo uno comprende esa realidad. Que lastima que algunos no lo quieren reconocer. Gracias macciboma..pieri..
Corelli forever. He combines technical skill with raw emotion. Second has to be Pavarotti with his technical precision. Domingo and Bjorling... no. Domingo has good emotion but not as good vocally as Corelli or Pavarotti. And Bjorling's voice is too weak for this aria.
Corelli reh best Calaf of the XX century.You have also to hear Gianfranco Cecchele,a Dramatic tenore,:this role is not suited for Pavarotti he is a wonderfull Rodolfo..Nemorino.Also Mario Del Monaco..Bonissoli...
Domingo's B is not impressive..he doesn't have great technique from Bb up and it's obvious. Corelli? He was the Calaf...incredible spinto tenor..without question the greatest tenor vocally of the past century. He had it all. Listen to his high B compared to Domingo's...not even close..
Very hard to compare. Different voices, specially Bjorling. My favorite is Doming for the darkness of his voice, those lows. But I would never say he's "better" or "the best", I simply prefer him in this aria.
Corelli has by far the best range of the 3. He has an almost baritonal sound on the low part at the beginning but his high B is easy and free while Doming and Bjorling sound thin and pinched at the top.
In order to sing Nessun Dorma the tenor has to nail the B in vincero and Domingo does not..he pinches/squeezes it. As I said before once he gets beyond Bb it's over.
Jussi was a constant pusher? You can't be serious. If he was always pushing he wouldn't have the round sound he always had, neither would he have lasted.
Lovely...vocal problems/artistic for Corelli. enlighten me expert...I'd like to hear it. Don't think you'll get much support. Jussi was wonderful but as a lyric tenor he didn't sing this role.
@mozzrt Your comments regarding Corelli are ridiculous. Grotesque? Let me tell you something. A late tenor friend I sung with in Denver spent three years at the Met and was on stage with Corelli numerous times. In his estimation (and he knew voices) Corelli was the greatest "vocal" tenor of the 20th Century. Your remark is grotesque.
Hey, I have enjoyed a lot of Bjoerling, but he overused his instrument, he taxed it a lot. His technique was not 100% secure. It was light, a little covered, and then he would bring on full power, but he molded the sound with some pressure in the throat. He also was uneasy, his vibrato flobbby in mezzo sustained lower and middle tones. He also, used diapraghm, but not directed from the pelvic muscles beneath, THOSE give the security. If you sing like this, with HIS intensity, it'll cost you.
I does not seem that either of the three were particularly confortable with the aria at the time of their recording. Placido is more even in his tone than either Fanco or Jussi. Jussy pushes, he always did, but in his later years, he did so the more, but comes out very lyrical. Corelli seems tired here. If one is a tenor singing Nessun Dorma, Corelli's technical approach, open tone, disengaged vibrato is best in the sense of comfort and control. In top shape, he would have ripped the house.
Corelli seems to be the best technically but there is something special with Domingo which makes him #1 for me. Its high B is not so bad, even though he has difficulties in top notes. Corelli's voice is too "old" for me and Bjorling's too weak, not deep enough.1 - Domingo2 - Corelli3 - Bjorling
+Benoit Faivre Corelli is by far the best. I love his darker, richer voice. And he isn't as pinched as Domingo. Second is Pavarotti with his technical precision. In this video: 1. Corelli 2. Domingo 3. Bjorling.
CORELLI. CORELLI. CORELLI. BJIORLING E DOMINGO bravissimi li adoro. Ma Corelli è un gradino sopra. ❤❤❤❤
Indetronable franco corelli 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕 💕
Corelli is reaching deep down from the depths of his soul and letting it all come out. The others are just trying to get the notes right. That is what it sounds like to me. Corelli is the best at this.
Even if i never met him and i never heard him live because of my age i just respect corelli with all of my soul he takes it each time i hear him sing , his emotions,his tecnique, his powerfull and his singing like it was his second nature make me love him as the best tenor of all times
Corelli,è di un'altra categoria!!! Grazie
...you're absolutely correct! Too many people have no recollections of the greatness of Corelli as they're too young. It's always some reference to Pav or Domingo, but they were not Corelli.
I saw Corelli in Trovatore circa 1961 at the Met. It was a thrilling performance and his voice carried very well in the theater. He had the ability to modulate his voice using mezza voce, diminuendo. The spinto dramatic portion of his voice was a driving vocal heroic sound most suitable for the spinto dramatic roles. I saw Domingo circa 1992 in I Pagliacci at the Met. A beautiful quality of voice but it suffered terribly when entering the passaggio and higher where at times he was almost inaudible. I think Domingo should be credited for his artistry and longevity, but I don't believe he was a great spinto tenor. Bjorling, although not suited for Calaf was an impeccable singer and a great lyric tenor. Not really fair to compare Domingo with the superior vocal gifts that Corelli had.
Excellent comment German. You hit it right on the head. Domingo of course
initially trained as a baritone and anything with Bs and Cs was always a bit of
a struggle. Bjorling was technically the best, but I've never heard any other tenor compare with Corelli. Thank you for your very accurate descriptions of him. My late tenor friend who I sang with for years was at the Met in the early sixties in the chorus and was on stage with Franco for 24 of his performances.
Corelli the top !!!!
Domingo has the best colour of voice,for this!!
Franco Corelli owns Nessun Dorma
Franco Corelli - sublime !
Jussi Björling - meraviglioso !
Placido Domingo - un nome grande...purtroppo dal vivo aveva una voce piccola e poco bella.
Corelli Number One- although not one of his best renditions.
Source: You Tube- Corelli: Turandot (Puccini). Nessun Dorma (Act 111) Grabado en 1962. IC ASC 3013.
Impossible to exaggerate the effortless breathtaking power, animal drive and visceral thrill of Corelli on stage (Live). In the moment, soaring, high risk, --EPIC. Where art needs to be.
Corelli owns this aria and opera. He has the richness & power in his voice to sing this role. The other two don’t compare. Too bad a better recording of Corelli wasn’t selected. As Pavarotti said, “ he had vocal cords of steel.”
Though, I do appreciate the colour of his voice and the warmth he sings this with.
Corelli the best no doubt....his voice ,still unique end yung better than any other now days tenors
Definitely not Bjorling's premier Nessun Dorma, the live recording in Stockholm (I believe) where he slows it down is the best performance of this song ever.
Corelli is unbelievable, too, one of my favourite voices, definitely unbelievably powerful.
Domingo... I was never much of a fan.
Tengamos en cuenta las calidades de grabacion.Efectivamente hay efectivamente mejores interpretaciones puestas en youtube.
Ninguno es mejor.Son tres fenomenos en un aria hecha a su medida para la tesitura de su voz.¿Los tres insuperables!.
Pero Corelli...¡Oh,Franco Corelli!.
agree with germanoperasinger above Bjorling is a freight train in this version, amazing power in reserve, but Corelli's coloratura wins the day.
Two of my favorite tenors :) Grazie for sharing with us ur wonderful music. Grazie.
CORELLI IS KING!!!!!
I see that the one o Domingo is 10-15 seconds longer then the ones of Corelli and Bjørling. I have sunget this aria and i know that if you play it faster is much more difficult for the vocal cords, but it start laking the passion and dramatisk line you need for this aria. I prefer the ones og Corelli and Bjørling of course. PS: I have never heard Domingo reaching the high notes so well, this must be his best Nessundorma ever. Corelli sang the aria 100 times better at least a 1000 times
corelli
Grandissimo Bjorling
Bjorling as far as technical matters is concerned, is the best. But he lacks the raw passion of Corelli. Domingo has too weak of a top register to be a convincing Calaf. In my opinion, Franco Corelli still gives the definitive rendition of 'nessun dorma', large, powerful voice, genuine raw passion, and explosive upper register notes.
@TheInquisitive4Ever Well stated and
true in every respect. Bjorling never sang
this role as a lyric..nice recording, but
not close to the power needed that Corelli
had as a true spinto.
SIN NINGUNA DUDA EL MEJOR ES EL GRAN MAESTRO FRANCO CORELLI Y LO SIGUE SIENDO.Cualquier otra cosa que se crea o diga es es engañarse o estar equivocado, una cosa es que uno quiera a un determinado tenor y otra es que realmente esté siempre bién. Estas interpretaciones las he escuchado varias veces y me ha gustado más Domingo que la primera ves, lo que pasa que al lado del Gran Maestro Corelli es difícil encontrar a otro "el mejor"|. La grabación de Domingo es más potente eso sí.
Domingo sings it very well. It is well structured, hearty and clean. Yes he does'n nail on B, but for me the matter is not how long the particular sound is. And I don't understand, whats wrong with his high B. It is not bad at all.
Well, but Corelli's one is better. Corelli is amazing in this role. I don't very much like him, but here he's insuperable.
This is not meant for Bjoerling I think.
Shame that Domingo was included, would have much preferred del Monaco or someone else who was of a similar standard to Bjorling and Corelli
Exacto!
@GEIOMED All are good or very good tenors,but ever one have present Pavarotti's playing this aria,ans sincerelly,I believe than,specifically in Puccini,and much more in Turandot,he follow been the best.
Corelli wins this . I have always thought Domingo overrated
1.Corelli "the best Calaf ever!
2.Bjorling never sang the part on stage but made a great recording -59 with Birgit Nilsson
3. Domingo I know at least ten recordings that are better than domingo´s not to mention the live performances but if you accept his high notes then wash your ears with something!
1_Corelli
2_
3_
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10_the rest
I like Björling best, but also like the Up-Glissandos of Domingo. He definitely knows how to sing it too, also Corelli, but IMO he sounds somewhat hard and loud, not so balanced as Björling.
In fact you are right. My answer was driven by exasperation hence worthless so I apologize.
You see, I, as a singer, studied the singing of Björling for a long while, knowing the majority of his live and all studio recordings and moreover the technical view of his teachers. Surely some vocal pedagogues would agree, that Björling overexerted his voice from 1953 to late 1958. However that results from a laryngitis not his technical inability.
Conciliatory greetings of a fervent Björling admirer!
Мне трое нравятся
Acepto opiniones en contrario, cada cual prefiere lo que le gusta, para mi, Placido, sin lugar a dudas, ademas de haber visto aqui en YTB su actuacion brillante en el Met 1988., que termino de convencierme...Placido, el unico.
In My Opinion, Corelli sang the role 157 times and was the greatest Calaf in my time and ever since. Bjorling recorded the opera with Nilsson but was too intelligent to sing it in the theater. Domingo wasn't really a Calaf. His high notes were always and adventure. He strains and squeezes on the B-natural, forcing an unattractive note. IDomingo had a medium size spinto voice, cutting notes and phrases short and had a reputation of transposing arias and operas beyond acceptable practices. Neither tenor could compare with Corelli's vocals and heroic dynamics, especially in Turandot.
Number one what? Calef? Hardly "Babystinky" said it right on the above
post.
Ma l'ultimo è Corelli? qualcuno sa perchè qui ha questo difetto di pronuncia della esse? Non l'avevo mai sentito con questo problema, e al di là di questo credo sia una delle peggiori 'nessun dorma' di Corelli... anche su UA-cam ve ne sono di molto superiori. Secondo me solo Domingo l'ha cantata davvero divinamente, tra queste tre performances.
Admiraba la voz de J.Bjorlingpero aquí se escucha como apretada, P. Domingo trata de interpretar bién, su voz no es bella, al final toma bién la nota alta,, como en casi todo, es madiocre. El Gran Maestro Franco Corelli, en la historia de la opera "Turandot" esta con siderado, por los VERDADEROS ENTENDIDOS DE OPERA Y SU HISTORIAL, COMO EL MEJOR "CALAF" ;
al escucharlo uno comprende esa realidad. Que lastima que algunos no lo quieren reconocer. Gracias macciboma..pieri..
Corelli forever. He combines technical skill with raw emotion. Second has to be Pavarotti with his technical precision. Domingo and Bjorling... no. Domingo has good emotion but not as good vocally as Corelli or Pavarotti. And Bjorling's voice is too weak for this aria.
Corelli reh best Calaf of the XX century.You have also to hear Gianfranco Cecchele,a Dramatic tenore,:this role is not suited for Pavarotti he is a wonderfull Rodolfo..Nemorino.Also Mario Del Monaco..Bonissoli...
Domingo #1????
Domingo's B is not impressive..he doesn't have great technique from Bb up
and it's obvious. Corelli? He was the
Calaf...incredible spinto tenor..without
question the greatest tenor vocally of the
past century. He had it all. Listen to his
high B compared to Domingo's...not even close..
Very hard to compare. Different voices, specially Bjorling. My favorite is Doming for the darkness of his voice, those lows. But I would never say he's "better" or "the best", I simply prefer him in this aria.
Corelli has by far the best range of the 3. He has an almost baritonal sound on the low part at the beginning but his high B is easy and free while Doming and Bjorling sound thin and pinched at the top.
1.CORELLI 2.DOMINGO 3.UND SCHWÄCHSTER BJÖRLING
Domingo vs corelli recondita armonia or dio mi potevi scagliar domingo vs del monaco film please.
In order to sing Nessun Dorma the
tenor has to nail the B in vincero and
Domingo does not..he pinches/squeezes
it. As I said before once he gets beyond
Bb it's over.
How good is to make such copmarisons! I know that Domingo is the best - and now I can hear it, comparing to these two great tenors of the past.
Jussi was a constant pusher? You can't be serious. If he was always pushing he wouldn't have the round sound he always had, neither would he have lasted.
Show some respect, the lisp was not his fault.
this is not even the best version of Corelli’s Nessun Dorma, check out this version:
ua-cam.com/video/Eg-59NoES2o/v-deo.html
Lovely...vocal problems/artistic for Corelli.
enlighten me expert...I'd like to hear it.
Don't think you'll get much support.
Jussi was wonderful but as a lyric tenor
he didn't sing this role.
Jussi Björling is the best
@mozzrt Your comments regarding
Corelli are ridiculous. Grotesque? Let
me tell you something. A late tenor
friend I sung with in Denver spent three
years at the Met and was on stage with
Corelli numerous times. In his estimation
(and he knew voices) Corelli was the
greatest "vocal" tenor of the 20th Century.
Your remark is grotesque.
Hey, I have enjoyed a lot of Bjoerling, but he overused his instrument, he taxed it a lot. His technique was not 100% secure. It was light, a little covered, and then he would bring on full power, but he molded the sound with some pressure in the throat. He also was uneasy, his vibrato flobbby in mezzo sustained lower and middle tones. He also, used diapraghm, but not directed from the pelvic muscles beneath, THOSE give the security. If you sing like this, with HIS intensity, it'll cost you.
Domingo la voce piu bella!... Corelli... Bjorling
THIS ARIA IS FOR BJORLING NOT FOR PAV
I does not seem that either of the three were particularly confortable with the aria at the time of their recording. Placido is more even in his tone than either Fanco or Jussi.
Jussy pushes, he always did, but in his later years, he did so the more, but comes out very lyrical. Corelli seems tired here. If one is a tenor singing Nessun Dorma, Corelli's technical approach, open tone, disengaged vibrato is best in the sense of comfort and control. In top shape, he would have ripped the house.
Corelli seems to be the best technically but there is something special with Domingo which makes him #1 for me. Its high B is not so bad, even though he has difficulties in top notes. Corelli's voice is too "old" for me and Bjorling's too weak, not deep enough.1 - Domingo2 - Corelli3 - Bjorling
+Benoit Faivre Corelli is by far the best. I love his darker, richer voice. And he isn't as pinched as Domingo. Second is Pavarotti with his technical precision. In this video: 1. Corelli 2. Domingo 3. Bjorling.
I do'nt like Corelli's voice. Domingo for me sounds much better