Its so fucking hard, I don't know how he does it. Every time I try to sing and play at the same time I either sound like a dumbass or my guitar parts are all over the place.
He used to alternate pick a lot then. Just look at the intro to Disposable Heroes from that same concert. If you want a real down picking test try playing to the 1986 Toronto show because he down picks faster than humanly possible there.
That's true. But disposable heros picking pattern kinda requires alternate picking because of the switching from singles to triples and back again. I can pretty much play anything hetfield does the same way he does, but sometimes that section of creeping death just needs to be alt picked so you can guarantee keeping time till the chorus where you finally get a little break.
I think James just got better from playing hundreds of shows in such a short time span in the 80s. Its only natural. He may not have downpicked everything back then, but the experience he gained after Kill em All up to Master no doubt made him 10x the guitar player he was before.
Exactly what it was. Flemming would talk about how he downtuned the guitars then sped them up on the live albums because they couldn't play the songs as fast as what was intended. Then he said the next time he would see James, he could downpick the songs even faster than the album
@@rocafella142interesting i read/heard fleming increasing the bpm slightly on downtuned guitars to make it tighter, not about the speed necessarily. I think he mentioned they used that technique on studio albums not the live albums. To the earlier point, i think james had an insane talent though as well and was extremely consistent live. Some of his live performances on the master of puppets tour are scary 😟. My wrist hurts just watching it.
I'm 46 years old and when I was a kid I thought I was the world's biggest Metallica fan. When ...and justice for all was released,I sat in my room for weeks until I could play every single song exactly the way it was played on the album all with downstrokes. For a very long time I held the crown in my town as being the guy who could downstroke pic faster than anybody else that was in my circle of friends which was pretty large.when I got a bit older my musical tastes changed and I veered away from playing metal as much so I kind of lost that ability to downstroke so fast. But I can still play things off of Master of puppets and some of the stuff from Justice
@@TheArtofGuitar way back in the day it made me feel very important but now I'm more enamored with soaking as much feeling out of as few notes as possible....
I'm Now 65 And When I'm 14 I Got A Guitar And When I'm 20 I Though I Thought I Was The Best Metal Fan Ever! I Picked With 563 Tempo And A Lot Of Power In My Hands But Unfortunately... I Broke My Pick But... I Have 12 More Picks!
Well to be fair James didn't start working on his down picking until the Master of Puppets era and I think Hammerfest was in 85 (so 1 year before MoP). If you watch Creeping Death in Seattle 89 he down picks it flawlessly and INCREDIBLY fucking fast lol
Did that with Iron Maiden's "The Trooper". Speed up, then slow down. That was the only way to make our band's mandolin player happy about the song. (Yes, mandolin, really).
Something my guitar teacher taught me was that sticking those three fingers out when Down picking actually tenses up your wrist more, and if you just keep all your fingers in you can more comfortable downpick for longer
The important thing IS to relax your hand as much as possible. Let you arm hang by your side, completely relax it, you should likely notice your fingers naturally curl up, this is their most relaxed state, and what they should be kept in. However, if you keep them exactly like this you'll also notice the spacing between them, and when picking they can sort of flop all over the place, so you want to bring them in a bit, so they aren't completely relaxed, but the feel improves. I also find it takes more effort to keep your fingers extended and together than to keep them curled and together. Anyway, either can be made to work, whichever one you choose you can be sure to find high level players that use them as well
I was the opposite, I started with my fingers like a fist, be then when I saw Het sticking his out, I did it to emulate him. But it became so natural for me I can't go back to a closed first system, and I've seen him use both styles which makes me mad 😂
Yep, in the beginning just go for it as fast as you can just to get the "feeling" of playing it at that speed, don't worry about how it sounds, then slow it down and clean it up.
I was thinking that Kerry and Jeff from Slayer used mostly alternate picking, yes? I can't imagine them down-picking on a song like "Chemical Warfare". Hetfield is a down-picking beast for sure.
You don’t imagine Slayer down picking? Dave Mustaine said Kerry was the best rhythm player he’d ever played with. Chemical Warfare isn’t that hard.... set your standards higher.
@@mrroams5812 Never been sure why people talk about Disposable as one of the more difficult ones. Out of the faster tracks on Puppets (Battery, Puppets, Disposable, Damage) I've always found it to be the easiest by far.
Puppets really isn't that bad either, tbh. There's a lot more quick breaks than people realize and it allows you enough of a breather every few seconds that it's not that hard to maintain. Creep is definitely more taxing, especially at live tempo.
James is way too unmentioned in non-guitarist written lists of greatest guitarists, he is such a beast. Metallica is just such a huge entity I think he often goes unnoticed as an individual Nice video, very handy trick for building speed
Great video man, Creeping Death live has always been a nightmare to play-along for me, they used to play it so fast it's crazy. However, people don't talk about Death Magnetic that often, but have you tried to play the verse of "The End Of The Line" (the "Need, more and more, tainted misery" part) only with down-picking? Man, that's harddd!
Death Magnetic isn't one of Metallica's better albums, but there are some high points there if you look. In addition to Creeping Death, I really liked Cyanide. My personal fave on that album.
I've been playing guitar "Mainly Thrash" for over 30 years, I find, If i can't get a faster song down, i play it slow for hours, I do that to get the feel of where my finger need to be, i do it for a week or 2, i then leave the song be, I go to a different song or something i've come up with myself and play it til i can do it in my sleep, then after all that, I go back to the fast song i wanted to learn and go thru it slow, then pick up the pace, then i usually have it down... It works for me... War Ensemble was a PITA to get down! Timing is everything, Patients is a must... Thanks for putting these vids out!
Down picking is the main staple for all my playing and writing .. love your down picking videos man..you are a machine. I appreciated your tenacity and accuracy...nice job!
This made sense..the first song I ever learned was light to flies by trivium...it took me a long time and a lot of hours daily , but it paid off because by the time I had learned to play along to the whole song I had picked up a hell of a lot of techniques and it made learning a lot of other songs quite easy I was self taught and played each part repeatedly and then joined them together, i just thought I've got few months to myself , hardly left the house and with in 6 months I was able to play master of puppets and one along to the cd.. Built up stamina, speed and quieting down the noise of other strings etc. After that I moved onto sweep picking then practicing alternate picking, sometimes 12 hour in a day , sometimes more and being injured off work made me able to dedicate every waking minute to playing.. it was an unusual method of doing it but it really worked well...after a few years Of being in love with guitar I got hurt again, I work as a tree surgeon, and having hand arm vibration syndrome i lost months of playing, sore slow fingers plus a new career to concentrate on meant years passed with out playing again.. sold my guitars and thinking now...its sad. But your videos are convincing me to start again ..thank you 😊
He likely just didn’t have his endurance built up back then. There’s a concert on UA-cam from 1986 in Quebec where you can see him playing that same riff at a faster tempo (I think) with all downstrokes. I mean, it is a bit hard to tell because the camera isn’t as close and the lighting doesn’t exactly help either, but from what I can tell, he is doing downstrokes.
If you ever want to play master of puppets at full speed down picked, practice the picking part just before the 3rd verse. If you can play that part flawless, you can start playing the entire song with ease.
I heard Neil Peart talk once of being in concert shape. This was right after a 4-year hiatus Neils daughter dying in a car accident and his wife dying of cancer 10 months later. Once he decided he was going to play again, it took him months to get into the proper shape to record and then tour. I'm sure Hetfield needs to do something similar, but also, it wouldn't take long during a tour to get your arm worked up to what he does based on how many years he's been doing it. BTW - I appreciate your content. Website and Patreon subscriber here.
It just goes to show that James really is the riff King! When you played the Creeping Death Riff with Down Picking only and then played it with alternating picking, you can definitely hear the difference in quality of the song. Now I understand why James prefers down picking even though it’s physically brutal on your wrist and forearm. I really enjoyed this video and found it super informative and entertaining! I also have to say that I really like your drum tutorial videos since I’m an amateur drummer who’s trying to build up my skills. Thank you for sharing and I’m going to make sure I check out your new content as it drops! Take care!🤘🏻
The trick of playing it at a faster tempo and then slower works in sports and weight lifting too. It’s called the “over warm up.” If you want to lift sets of 200, you warm up with 50, then 100, then 150, then 200, then 250, then drop back to 200 for your sets. It tunes in the central nervous system.
Bro ... Love UR channel !!! I've been playing music for 40+ years and I'm always learning new stuff from ya ... really miss my drummer, he recently overdosed. We were like the blues Brothers lol Rock on man !!! 😜
This technique absolutely works for me when trying to build speed. I also stopped using a metronome for that because I would focus too much on gaining another BPM. Now I just play as fast as I feel comfortable with and by doing that I somehow gain speed more easily.
I learned this trick from a Shawn Lane video probably 10-15 years ago and it significantly helped me with both speed and control. Shawn said something to the effect of “if you keep bumping up the bpm by 5 you’ll eventually hit a wall. And to break through that wall you need to go up by 20 bpm or so and just try your best. When you get back to the original bpm it will feel easy by comparison.” This practice technique works in spades (or at the very least did for me)
There are a lot of alternate-picking on Kill 'em All and Ride The Lightning. I don't remember where I read it, but James talked about how he realized that down-picking sounds heavier sometime after the release of RTL and embraced the whole down-picking technique more on the albums that followed. Also, if you listen to the original recording of Creeping Death you can clearly hear that the intro and the riff you talk about are played in alternate-picking.
I'm glad somebody mentioned the difference in sound. I saw Judas Priest last year, first time with RF. He's great, but he played one of the classics with alternate picking instead of downpicking like on the recording, and it sounded so wrong that I wanted to crawl out of my skin. On Creeping Death, I actually like the alternate picking better, though. Don't know why.
Hetfield was the reason I started playing. Now I consider myself to be a fast and accurate downpicker, but when you watch old videos of him it really is crazy impressive. His stamina is unbelievable. I think a part of the reason for his style though is because he plays and sings simultaneously. I do the same (I'm not even in the same galaxy as him 😂) and can speak from my own experience how downpicking kind of keeps you playing rhythmically so you can focus on singing. I can pick up and down as well, but I definitely feel more confident downpicking at a steady pace during vocal parts. Speaking of cool picking techniques, watch Dave Mustaine do sweep picking while he sings. It's actually mindblowing to watch him perform. Anyway, great video bud. Thanks for entertaining us 👍
John Petrucci had the same advice in his instructional DVD "Rock Discipline" for people learning how to play at very high BPM's but having difficulty with keeping time. Just go way above your goal BPM, try your best to play it at that speed, and then go back down to your original BPM and it should feel much easier. But yeah, I totally agree -- "Creeping Death" is brutal on the forearms.
Going faster than the songs tempo, and then coming back down to speed, is actually applicable for Vocals too. Listen to a live show of any band that has a singer with a multi-octave voice (Myles Kennedy in Alterbridge) and you'll hear the "how you doing?!", "Whoooo!!", "YEA!!" That fluctuates between higher and lower depending on what they are about to sing. It's "priming" the vocal chords to more accurately hit those notes.
The whole time you are telling me to go faster than the target I was thinking Petrucci from “Rock Discipline”. I remember him doing this chromatic exercise, overshooting his goal to purposely fail, then dropping back down and nailing it. Great video! If I am playing album I am all downstrokes. If I am playing concert speed, it depends on the era of the show and if I get lazy.
Check out Mick Cocks from Aussie rock band Rose Tattoo. Song: All the lessons. Live at Reading rock festival circa 1981 - this song is something like 400 downstrokes per minute - correction - 440. This guy was epic.
You're nailing it with great content at a high output, lately! I know big names get the views to help keep you in business, but can I kindly (if not, cheekily) request a bit of Type O Negative or The Smiths content? My two music loves right there. Anyway, keep up the awesome content. Cheers from Wales!
Just to clear things up, anything shorter than an eighth note such as a riff with sixteenth notes will entail alternate picking as will eighth note triplets. Whereas any riff that uses eighth notes or notes longer than eighth notes will just use down picking. Acoustic or clean tone guitar parts such as the interlude to Master of Puppets or Fade to black will mix it up.
Yeah I noticed when I was with this same question "he is not doing all downstrokes on metal hammer fest, sep 14th 85" Now go half a month earlier, day on the green, aug 31, 1985: he does most downstrokes, only by the end of the main riff he does upstrokes (thats the usual way I've seen him playing in several gigs), but I think only for that part and some power chords because "he feels" like hitting some "upstrokes" (on the "so let it be written" part)
Back in the day, they were still learning, still new, some of the pioneers of fast metal, over time they’ve just mastered their trade and gotten better.
Definitely gonna keep this technique in mind. Getting my downpicking speed is one of the main things i wanna do when i start playing guitar, Hopefully can start this week depending on when i get the Guitar from my Dad's place, he's also gonna give me some tidbits along the way as well since he's been playing for decades . I'm mainly a drummer but I've been wanting to see how far my guitar skills can get up to for quite some time now. Curious to see how i do
I don’t know why I’m even watching this. I’m 50 and trying to learn the guitar and having one hell of a time with it already. Don’t need this kind of video to bring me down even more!
My hand simply cannot down pick fast. Just can't do it. 30 years of playing guitar and I've accepted that whatever it is about my arm wrist and hand, I'll never be able to down pick fast.
Cool video. I wrote a book on this subject years ago. The funny thing is to learn to play a song well you have to learn it well slow first, so you are not practicing mistakes. However if you are just learning to play faster whatever exercise you choose has to be played fast to build that strength and coordination-sloppy is okay here. Those two goals are completely different and require different approaches. Unfortunately, I see so many times musicians trying to learn a song and trying to do so at speed. So, they are practicing mistakes. Practice make permanent not perfect. Again, great video. I subbed. Looking forward to more.
Creeping Death is super easy to play downpicked but if your used to alt picking i can see the strain because your arm is not muscle trained to downpick at those speeds.
I learned from metallica songs and developed the james down pick only technique and it actually made learning other artists much harder when i had to alternate pick multiple strings
thanks for the tip on the tempo changes to get up to speed. It's probably something I've done in the past subconsciously, but it's nice to be aware of it and utilize it, rather than stumble into it.
I usually start around 240 tempo to warm up down picking, then to 260 down picking mixed with up-down picking... then down below 240 so I don’t cramp while continuously playing, always good to stretch the fingers and bottom side of the wrist before playing
When I was 15 and started playing I used to do down picking most of the time, I got pretty good at it, but when I started getting lessons from an actual instructor I realized how much character alternate picking adds to songs. Looking back made me realize, how the f@ck was I downpicking so fast, I can no longer do it lol
For years I only ever down picked. I taught myself to play, before UA-cam days, and pretty much all I did was look up tabs and sat for hours trying to play them. Years down the road and I learned about alternate picking. Took me awhile to get it down but it has improved my playing a lot and it allowed me to starting playing leads but this is ancient history now, like 15 years ago, but still to this day the songs that I learned only down picking still feel more natural than when I try to alternate pick them
I'm a guitar teacher and a lot of the backing tracks for the different songs for exams are slower than the original song - for example, Walk This Way is a grade 4 song but the backing track for the exam is a decent bit slower than the original to make it more appropriate for a grade 4 player (can't remember the exact speeds sorry). I've used this trick for years to help students - try practising it at the original speed and the speed for your exam will be a cake walk! Cool to see someone else saying the same thing!
A lot of what's discussed on this channel reminds me of what made my brother a great guitarist. I do remember in high school, he was one of the only guitarists who could actually play Metallica properly, with the downstroke technique.
the fact that lars plays at 30 bpm faster than the original is pretty hilarious, some bands do it intentionally, but i know for a fact, that lars doesnt.
Theres a song that i play thats about 3 mins long or maybe a little over . anyways its called ankomst by leaves eyes. Now i sometimes learn a song just by hearing it if i recognize the notes moreless i can kinda figure the chords out as i did with outfields your love and blues travelers just wait. At the time i was just starting of and didnt know anything about tabs when i tried to learn tjose songs but later on i looked them up and surprising i was pretty close. So woth ankomst i gear the guitar and to me sounds like its just a bar chord starting from like the 9 fret to the 7th to the 5th to the 4th and 2nd and the melody sounds like abunch of down strokes. Now im just going by ear and havent seen the tabs yet but sounds pretty close. Now i dont know how they are actually playing it but I'm doing nothing but down picking. Now i remember the 1st time i attempted this song once i had it down and i maybe lasted maybe up to the 2nd verse before my my index fingee started to hurt then soon my hand then under my forearm. My picking hand starts to burn sooner then that like at the dist verse. So i had to stop. Well actually took a week till both hands got stronger and say if i stoped for like a few days i would have to start all over. But one little trick i learned was because i was using more of my finger and thumb to pick i started to do something i call the the bouncing stroke kinda like when your playing s drum role which i have in the past and is pretty easy plus no drum lessons is you let the pick do the work when changing to the next string let it bounce off string when striking it using more of your arm kinda like when the drum stick hits the snare drum you loosen up your arms and grip let the stick bounce off the snare a little giving your drum roll the sound as if you were playing 100 bpm and using very little effort just like picking down and your finger n thumb loosen up your grip and loose hand using more arm than just wrist letting the pick bounce off the string when multi picking.
I might be a little late and no I did not learn this by guitar and can't do it with guitar. Only use the amount of force necessary at an explosive point on your wrist and use your elbow on the rest of the movement. Very quick changes in motion but only changing the direction enough to miss on the upstroke. Draw at least 5 changes in direction in your muscle memory and stop thinking. This part requires you to stop thinking and it has to become instinct.
0:05 Drinking. They were drinking
Ha ha.....
Nice one 😂😂
Meaty Potatoes yep lol
Being drunk while playing guitar makes people better. At least for me.
@@H.E.M. hmm, yeah I doubt that. From my experience you play like shit, and its frustrating.
And don't forget, that James is singing while playing phantastic rhythm-guitar
Dirk Radloff true dat! Two different speeds at same time, talk about multitasking!
Siddharth but we aren’t talking about Dave Mustaine? Lol
Hell yeah .
Its so fucking hard, I don't know how he does it. Every time I try to sing and play at the same time I either sound like a dumbass or my guitar parts are all over the place.
@Siddharth well this video isn't about Dave
He used to alternate pick a lot then. Just look at the intro to Disposable Heroes from that same concert. If you want a real down picking test try playing to the 1986 Toronto show because he down picks faster than humanly possible there.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Yep. Blitzkrieg was insane!
That's true. But disposable heros picking pattern kinda requires alternate picking because of the switching from singles to triples and back again. I can pretty much play anything hetfield does the same way he does, but sometimes that section of creeping death just needs to be alt picked so you can guarantee keeping time till the chorus where you finally get a little break.
@@JamesContos85 I'm not talking about the main riff/open e chug, I'm taking about the very beginning 6 open e notes during the intro.
F'ing hell, you weren't exaggerating. (ua-cam.com/video/6gcLW4gMRZE/v-deo.html)
Explanation:
James and Kirk: booze
Lars: cocaine
Cliff: weed
Jason painkillers
@@twinfrogatwinfromga7547 painkillers-Jason
Perfect combo
The perfect mix.
No lars is on anesthesia.
He can barely even play
To reach that downpick your body must be:
8% Water
12% Blood
80% Whiskey
I wish man, whiskey makes me stop downpicking and start playing Hank Williams Jr. songs. No lie! haha
@@TheArtofGuitar you could say, you like to get whiskey bent and hell bound
100% reason to remeber the name
You mean 80% Jager…
Whiskey in the Jar
This guy’s voice is so calm it’s like listening to m my son’s pediatrician giving me instructions on how administer his medication.
Chrismatorium Grill “Now gently place the syringe in the buttock like so.”
The-Art-of-Guitar lmao
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yea you really gotta softball it when you are explaining supositories lol
@@TheArtofGuitar you beat me to it lol
he was drunk. Playing fast stuff is hard when you're drunk.
James was just that next level drunk where you become a god at everything but then are unable to remember anything
Matt Newman playing anything with complex picking can sound really bad drunk. Chords can sound amazing though lol
For some it is easier sir
Not when you drink all the time
But not when you're high (Blackened @Seattle 1989).
I think James just got better from playing hundreds of shows in such a short time span in the 80s. Its only natural. He may not have downpicked everything back then, but the experience he gained after Kill em All up to Master no doubt made him 10x the guitar player he was before.
Exactly what it was. Flemming would talk about how he downtuned the guitars then sped them up on the live albums because they couldn't play the songs as fast as what was intended. Then he said the next time he would see James, he could downpick the songs even faster than the album
@@rocafella142interesting i read/heard fleming increasing the bpm slightly on downtuned guitars to make it tighter, not about the speed necessarily. I think he mentioned they used that technique on studio albums not the live albums. To the earlier point, i think james had an insane talent though as well and was extremely consistent live. Some of his live performances on the master of puppets tour are scary 😟. My wrist hurts just watching it.
I'm 46 years old and when I was a kid I thought I was the world's biggest Metallica fan. When ...and justice for all was released,I sat in my room for weeks until I could play every single song exactly the way it was played on the album all with downstrokes. For a very long time I held the crown in my town as being the guy who could downstroke pic faster than anybody else that was in my circle of friends which was pretty large.when I got a bit older my musical tastes changed and I veered away from playing metal as much so I kind of lost that ability to downstroke so fast. But I can still play things off of Master of puppets and some of the stuff from Justice
Nice@ That's a sweet title to have.
@@TheArtofGuitar way back in the day it made me feel very important but now I'm more enamored with soaking as much feeling out of as few notes as possible....
Except Dyers Eve.
I'm Now 65 And When I'm 14 I Got A Guitar And When I'm 20 I Though
I Thought I Was The Best Metal Fan Ever! I Picked With 563 Tempo
And A Lot Of Power In My Hands
But Unfortunately... I Broke My Pick But... I Have 12 More Picks!
@@richardsouk4374 what?
So basically James practices at 350bpm so he can last the whole show.
Well to be fair James didn't start working on his down picking until the Master of Puppets era and I think Hammerfest was in 85 (so 1 year before MoP). If you watch Creeping Death in Seattle 89 he down picks it flawlessly and INCREDIBLY fucking fast lol
Kerry King and Jeff hanneman of slayer really fast at rhythm
@@robertwalker3357 KK alternates a lot...IIRC..Hetfield is the down picking master, lol.
@@markusaurelius777 Downpicking at Slayer speed is impossible.
The real question is can James downpick fight fire
Good one :)
Nop he uses alternate picking :)
@@TwistedMind86Chern Cringe.
@@TwistedMind86Chern You posted cringe. Your foreskin privileges have been revoked.
@@hhhfff7953 bro why is he cringe.
Giorgos Lekapinos you’ve lost penis privileges
Did that with Iron Maiden's "The Trooper". Speed up, then slow down. That was the only way to make our band's mandolin player happy about the song. (Yes, mandolin, really).
I've never considered playing The Trooper on a mandolin, but now I will not rest until I hear it.
Sounds like you could put your mandolin player to much better use than Iron Maiden covers.
I hate mandolin players. They always end up fucking the triangle player's girlfriend.
@@InfinityCartier stop playing triangle.
@@zackerick4753 Yeah, he should play square
Meanwhile in behind the scenes papa het secretly up picks only.
👍😂 ROTFF LMMFATFO, and shit. It's funny cuz it's probably fuckin true!
Behind the scenes, he altpicks master of puppets
Lol that would be insane
He’s done this forever, not every show, but in the 80s and 90s it was really common for him to alt pick it
He’s also got 50,000 people screaming and loving him, that may boost you a bit.
Cause when your Adrenaline starts to Flow and you're Thrashing all around; Acting like a maniac! ...does alternate/up-stroke picking...
Chromatic Man WHIPLAAASH
Chromatic Man dickrash
Exactly. Whiplash is just one of them
@@michaelbranin7687 🤣
Something my guitar teacher taught me was that sticking those three fingers out when Down picking actually tenses up your wrist more, and if you just keep all your fingers in you can more comfortable downpick for longer
I've always naturally played with my fingers in, good to know it's correct!
The important thing IS to relax your hand as much as possible. Let you arm hang by your side, completely relax it, you should likely notice your fingers naturally curl up, this is their most relaxed state, and what they should be kept in. However, if you keep them exactly like this you'll also notice the spacing between them, and when picking they can sort of flop all over the place, so you want to bring them in a bit, so they aren't completely relaxed, but the feel improves. I also find it takes more effort to keep your fingers extended and together than to keep them curled and together. Anyway, either can be made to work, whichever one you choose you can be sure to find high level players that use them as well
I was the opposite, I started with my fingers like a fist, be then when I saw Het sticking his out, I did it to emulate him. But it became so natural for me I can't go back to a closed first system, and I've seen him use both styles which makes me mad 😂
I hold the pick with 4 fingers
Nah, it’s however you adapt and learn. It all gets efficient. Use both.
Yep, in the beginning just go for it as fast as you can just to get the "feeling" of playing it at that speed, don't worry about how it sounds, then slow it down and clean it up.
I was thinking that Kerry and Jeff from Slayer used mostly alternate picking, yes? I can't imagine them down-picking on a song like "Chemical Warfare". Hetfield is a down-picking beast for sure.
You don't downpick 16th note. They downpick a lot but on 8th note and triplets
Imagine if you downpick Chemical Warfare? You'd be a god in mortal form.
Yeah, you don’t downpick 16ths. That’s just not possible. It’s like that stupid rumour that Hetfield downpicked Dyers Eve. Haha!
Just use alternate picking. Its the most economic way of picking
You don’t imagine Slayer down picking? Dave Mustaine said Kerry was the best rhythm player he’d ever played with.
Chemical Warfare isn’t that hard.... set your standards higher.
Creeping Death wears my arm out more than any other Metallica song, including Master.
What about Disposable?
@@mrroams5812 You can practise that and it will become normal, just like I was scared of blackened at album speed, now I play the Seattle speed easily
@@mrroams5812 really not that bad compared to creeping death that song breaks my brain and its my favorite
@@mrroams5812 Never been sure why people talk about Disposable as one of the more difficult ones. Out of the faster tracks on Puppets (Battery, Puppets, Disposable, Damage) I've always found it to be the easiest by far.
Puppets really isn't that bad either, tbh. There's a lot more quick breaks than people realize and it allows you enough of a breather every few seconds that it's not that hard to maintain. Creep is definitely more taxing, especially at live tempo.
2:43 subtitles: *[Applause]*
At first I read this title as "A riff so easy even James Hetfield could play it"
James is way too unmentioned in non-guitarist written lists of greatest guitarists, he is such a beast. Metallica is just such a huge entity I think he often goes unnoticed as an individual
Nice video, very handy trick for building speed
Great video man, Creeping Death live has always been a nightmare to play-along for me, they used to play it so fast it's crazy. However, people don't talk about Death Magnetic that often, but have you tried to play the verse of "The End Of The Line" (the "Need, more and more, tainted misery" part) only with down-picking? Man, that's harddd!
Yeah I tried to learn that song once but it's really exhausting, even though I'm decent at playing other fast downpicking songs
Kevin C Marynda death magnetic has some of the hardest metallica riffs to play I think
Death Magnetic isn't one of Metallica's better albums, but there are some high points there if you look. In addition to Creeping Death, I really liked Cyanide. My personal fave on that album.
I meant End of the Line. Sorry!
@@JCFlyingV98 I agree, all the harmonised lead parts are pretty hard as well compared to the rest of their songs.
Love this guy's voice he sounds so calm and peaceful . This song would be fun too play 🤘
Even James needs a break once and a while... that shit ain't easy.. lol
He needs a kit kat
schmittza have a break
I've been playing guitar "Mainly Thrash" for over 30 years, I find, If i can't get a faster song down, i play it slow for hours, I do that to get the feel of where my finger need to be, i do it for a week or 2, i then leave the song be, I go to a different song or something i've come up with myself and play it til i can do it in my sleep, then after all that, I go back to the fast song i wanted to learn and go thru it slow, then pick up the pace, then i usually have it down... It works for me... War Ensemble was a PITA to get down! Timing is everything, Patients is a must... Thanks for putting these vids out!
Down picking is the main staple for all my playing and writing .. love your down picking videos man..you are a machine. I appreciated your tenacity and accuracy...nice job!
I always played this riff way too fast without realizing because I always listened to it live and now the studio recording sounds super slow
This made sense..the first song I ever learned was light to flies by trivium...it took me a long time and a lot of hours daily , but it paid off because by the time I had learned to play along to the whole song I had picked up a hell of a lot of techniques and it made learning a lot of other songs quite easy
I was self taught and played each part repeatedly and then joined them together, i just thought I've got few months to myself , hardly left the house and with in 6 months I was able to play master of puppets and one along to the cd..
Built up stamina, speed and quieting down the noise of other strings etc.
After that I moved onto sweep picking then practicing alternate picking, sometimes 12 hour in a day , sometimes more and being injured off work made me able to dedicate every waking minute to playing.. it was an unusual method of doing it but it really worked well...after a few years
Of being in love with guitar I got hurt again, I work as a tree surgeon, and having hand arm vibration syndrome i lost months of playing, sore slow fingers plus a new career to concentrate on meant years passed with out playing again.. sold my guitars and thinking now...its sad.
But your videos are convincing me to start again ..thank you 😊
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He likely just didn’t have his endurance built up back then. There’s a concert on UA-cam from 1986 in Quebec where you can see him playing that same riff at a faster tempo (I think) with all downstrokes. I mean, it is a bit hard to tell because the camera isn’t as close and the lighting doesn’t exactly help either, but from what I can tell, he is doing downstrokes.
His rythym parts are even harder with singing. Sandman is a beginner riff, try to sing and play that
Singing and playing guitar at same time is extremely hard. I Cant do it , i can do the odd back up here and there , but not a full blown whole song
James also used to alternate pick the sped up chorus riff during the solo of Seek and Destroy.
they played that fast all the while drunk, stoned & in front of an audience. pretty impressive.
If you ever want to play master of puppets at full speed down picked, practice the picking part just before the 3rd verse. If you can play that part flawless, you can start playing the entire song with ease.
Yeah, it's a pain in the butt to play this one
Both right and left hands struggle!
Which one, the riff kirk wrote ? Or the verse riff ?
I heard Neil Peart talk once of being in concert shape. This was right after a 4-year hiatus Neils daughter dying in a car accident and his wife dying of cancer 10 months later. Once he decided he was going to play again, it took him months to get into the proper shape to record and then tour. I'm sure Hetfield needs to do something similar, but also, it wouldn't take long during a tour to get your arm worked up to what he does based on how many years he's been doing it.
BTW - I appreciate your content. Website and Patreon subscriber here.
It just goes to show that James really is the riff King! When you played the Creeping Death Riff with Down Picking only and then played it with alternating picking, you can definitely hear the difference in quality of the song. Now I understand why James prefers down picking even though it’s physically brutal on your wrist and forearm. I really enjoyed this video and found it super informative and entertaining! I also have to say that I really like your drum tutorial videos since I’m an amateur drummer who’s trying to build up my skills. Thank you for sharing and I’m going to make sure I check out your new content as it drops! Take care!🤘🏻
The trick of playing it at a faster tempo and then slower works in sports and weight lifting too. It’s called the “over warm up.” If you want to lift sets of 200, you warm up with 50, then 100, then 150, then 200, then 250, then drop back to 200 for your sets. It tunes in the central nervous system.
I always alternate picked that part because the downstrokes really tensed me :(
that Les Paul Custom looks fantastic 😍
Bro ... Love UR channel !!!
I've been playing music for 40+ years and I'm always learning new stuff from ya ... really miss my drummer, he recently overdosed. We were like the blues Brothers lol
Rock on man !!! 😜
This is the only riff he's ever written I cant play with out alternate picking it just sounds shit if i play it like him.
Blugpin oh
Oh
Blugpin Dyer's Eve down picked?
One: Am I a joke to you?
@@Carbon2861996 one is relatively easy compared to this..
This technique absolutely works for me when trying to build speed. I also stopped using a metronome for that because I would focus too much on gaining another BPM. Now I just play as fast as I feel comfortable with and by doing that I somehow gain speed more easily.
I definitely learned that trick from Petrucci’s Rock Discipline! 👍🏻
How many billions notes per sec can you play, noob?
I learned this trick from a Shawn Lane video probably 10-15 years ago and it significantly helped me with both speed and control. Shawn said something to the effect of “if you keep bumping up the bpm by 5 you’ll eventually hit a wall. And to break through that wall you need to go up by 20 bpm or so and just try your best. When you get back to the original bpm it will feel easy by comparison.” This practice technique works in spades (or at the very least did for me)
There are a lot of alternate-picking on Kill 'em All and Ride The Lightning. I don't remember where I read it, but James talked about how he realized that down-picking sounds heavier sometime after the release of RTL and embraced the whole down-picking technique more on the albums that followed. Also, if you listen to the original recording of Creeping Death you can clearly hear that the intro and the riff you talk about are played in alternate-picking.
I'm glad somebody mentioned the difference in sound. I saw Judas Priest last year, first time with RF. He's great, but he played one of the classics with alternate picking instead of downpicking like on the recording, and it sounded so wrong that I wanted to crawl out of my skin. On Creeping Death, I actually like the alternate picking better, though. Don't know why.
Hetfield was the reason I started playing.
Now I consider myself to be a fast and accurate downpicker, but when you watch old videos of him it really is crazy impressive. His stamina is unbelievable. I think a part of the reason for his style though is because he plays and sings simultaneously. I do the same (I'm not even in the same galaxy as him 😂) and can speak from my own experience how downpicking kind of keeps you playing rhythmically so you can focus on singing. I can pick up and down as well, but I definitely feel more confident downpicking at a steady pace during vocal parts.
Speaking of cool picking techniques, watch Dave Mustaine do sweep picking while he sings. It's actually mindblowing to watch him perform.
Anyway, great video bud. Thanks for entertaining us 👍
This guy who’s video I clicked on randomly: “So Let’s go up to 250.”
Metronome: U WOT M8?
John Petrucci had the same advice in his instructional DVD "Rock Discipline" for people learning how to play at very high BPM's but having difficulty with keeping time. Just go way above your goal BPM, try your best to play it at that speed, and then go back down to your original BPM and it should feel much easier.
But yeah, I totally agree -- "Creeping Death" is brutal on the forearms.
Learning old SEPULTURA songs, permanently built up my forearms overall!!!!
Going faster than the songs tempo, and then coming back down to speed, is actually applicable for Vocals too. Listen to a live show of any band that has a singer with a multi-octave voice (Myles Kennedy in Alterbridge) and you'll hear the "how you doing?!", "Whoooo!!", "YEA!!" That fluctuates between higher and lower depending on what they are about to sing. It's "priming" the vocal chords to more accurately hit those notes.
I thought they played that alternate picking on the studio as well? I sounds kind of alternate picked, if that's a word.
The whole time you are telling me to go faster than the target I was thinking Petrucci from “Rock Discipline”. I remember him doing this chromatic exercise, overshooting his goal to purposely fail, then dropping back down and nailing it.
Great video! If I am playing album I am all downstrokes. If I am playing concert speed, it depends on the era of the show and if I get lazy.
People: *talk shit when you don't do alternate picking*
James hetfield: Hold my pick.
Check out Mick Cocks from Aussie rock band Rose Tattoo. Song: All the lessons. Live at Reading rock festival circa 1981 - this song is something like 400 downstrokes per minute - correction - 440. This guy was epic.
Lars is off by 30 bpm. What a great drummer.
No thrash band plays shit live at the tempo on the album.
@@vicw2663 🤘creeping death is always better live
Being able to downpick Creeping Death at 225 is my proudest moment
I do the same thing for that part so now I feel less bad about alternate picking
You're nailing it with great content at a high output, lately!
I know big names get the views to help keep you in business, but can I kindly (if not, cheekily) request a bit of Type O Negative or The Smiths content? My two music loves right there.
Anyway, keep up the awesome content. Cheers from Wales!
Even dime said no one plays Rythmn like James!!
Just to clear things up, anything shorter than an eighth note such as a riff with sixteenth notes will entail alternate picking as will eighth note triplets. Whereas any riff that uses eighth notes or notes longer than eighth notes will just use down picking.
Acoustic or clean tone guitar parts such as the interlude to Master of Puppets or Fade to black will mix it up.
Just When I thought a g chord was hard
U should change your g string
Look up Killing Is My Business tabs
@@kevinr.3542 i dont think you realise the g string is not played with an open g
@@bt3743 What? haha
It's not though
Yeah I noticed when I was with this same question "he is not doing all downstrokes on metal hammer fest, sep 14th 85"
Now go half a month earlier, day on the green, aug 31, 1985: he does most downstrokes, only by the end of the main riff he does upstrokes (thats the usual way I've seen him playing in several gigs), but I think only for that part and some power chords because "he feels" like hitting some "upstrokes" (on the "so let it be written" part)
man that guitar is beautiful
Back in the day, they were still learning, still new, some of the pioneers of fast metal, over time they’ve just mastered their trade and gotten better.
0:49: is this actually a drum fill😂
Wow I love your distortion!!
What pedals or amp are you using??
Don't forget Kirk keeps up live too!!
Definitely gonna keep this technique in mind. Getting my downpicking speed is one of the main things i wanna do when i start playing guitar, Hopefully can start this week depending on when i get the Guitar from my Dad's place, he's also gonna give me some tidbits along the way as well since he's been playing for decades . I'm mainly a drummer but I've been wanting to see how far my guitar skills can get up to for quite some time now. Curious to see how i do
Papa Het can play this and toss one off so fast he would never miss a beat..
I don’t know why I’m even watching this. I’m 50 and trying to learn the guitar and having one hell of a time with it already. Don’t need this kind of video to bring me down even more!
My hand simply cannot down pick fast. Just can't do it. 30 years of playing guitar and I've accepted that whatever it is about my arm wrist and hand, I'll never be able to down pick fast.
Pathetic
Same here. You're not alone on this one.
Thankfully I can’t downpick really fast. I started off early.
Perhaps you’ve been practicing poor technique? Or not practicing the proper things. That’s super common even with guitar vets. Just a thought
Try starting with 90 bpm on metronome and go speeding up everyday
Cool video. I wrote a book on this subject years ago. The funny thing is to learn to play a song well you have to learn it well slow first, so you are not practicing mistakes. However if you are just learning to play faster whatever exercise you choose has to be played fast to build that strength and coordination-sloppy is okay here. Those two goals are completely different and require different approaches. Unfortunately, I see so many times musicians trying to learn a song and trying to do so at speed. So, they are practicing mistakes. Practice make permanent not perfect. Again, great video. I subbed. Looking forward to more.
Studio : 204 BPM
Lars : Let's up the tempo live
Creeping Death is super easy to play downpicked but if your used to alt picking i can see the strain because your arm is not muscle trained to downpick at those speeds.
Is he Glenn from the walking dead ??
Do you say that about any Asian person because he really doesn't look like him at all.
@@TheSectric I think he does a little
He did it in Toronto in '86 ;) and they played even faster than usual
I learned from metallica songs and developed the james down pick only technique and it actually made learning other artists much harder when i had to alternate pick multiple strings
thanks for the tip on the tempo changes to get up to speed. It's probably something I've done in the past subconsciously, but it's nice to be aware of it and utilize it, rather than stumble into it.
Listen up. John Cusack knows what he is talking about.
I usually start around 240 tempo to warm up down picking, then to 260 down picking mixed with up-down picking... then down below 240 so I don’t cramp while continuously playing, always good to stretch the fingers and bottom side of the wrist before playing
My guitar teacher saw them in '93. He was in the first row and said he clearly saw him alternate picking puppets :D
You need to check out Creeping Death live in Toronto Canada 1986, it's crazy fast and James down-picks the whole song!
I’m sure he didn’t downstroke Dyer’s Eve either.
Man I don’t even know what your vid was about, all I could concentrate on was that beautiful Les Paul
When I was 15 and started playing I used to do down picking most of the time, I got pretty good at it, but when I started getting lessons from an actual instructor I realized how much character alternate picking adds to songs. Looking back made me realize, how the f@ck was I downpicking so fast, I can no longer do it lol
For years I only ever down picked. I taught myself to play, before UA-cam days, and pretty much all I did was look up tabs and sat for hours trying to play them. Years down the road and I learned about alternate picking. Took me awhile to get it down but it has improved my playing a lot and it allowed me to starting playing leads but this is ancient history now, like 15 years ago, but still to this day the songs that I learned only down picking still feel more natural than when I try to alternate pick them
Why am I here I’m a drummer?
Miks et olis
There is a drummer among us
Gods video. Have you ever looked at the right hand picking in Anthrax?
They were drinking and doing drugs back then, so yeah, it's gonna be faster.
I'm a guitar teacher and a lot of the backing tracks for the different songs for exams are slower than the original song - for example, Walk This Way is a grade 4 song but the backing track for the exam is a decent bit slower than the original to make it more appropriate for a grade 4 player (can't remember the exact speeds sorry). I've used this trick for years to help students - try practising it at the original speed and the speed for your exam will be a cake walk! Cool to see someone else saying the same thing!
James “the down pick” hetfield
A lot of what's discussed on this channel reminds me of what made my brother a great guitarist. I do remember in high school, he was one of the only guitarists who could actually play Metallica properly, with the downstroke technique.
the fact that lars plays at 30 bpm faster than the original is pretty hilarious, some bands do it intentionally, but i know for a fact, that lars doesnt.
But it sounds good
Lars was into coke also lol
Theres a song that i play thats about 3 mins long or maybe a little over . anyways its called ankomst by leaves eyes. Now i sometimes learn a song just by hearing it if i recognize the notes moreless i can kinda figure the chords out as i did with outfields your love and blues travelers just wait. At the time i was just starting of and didnt know anything about tabs when i tried to learn tjose songs but later on i looked them up and surprising i was pretty close. So woth ankomst i gear the guitar and to me sounds like its just a bar chord starting from like the 9 fret to the 7th to the 5th to the 4th and 2nd and the melody sounds like abunch of down strokes. Now im just going by ear and havent seen the tabs yet but sounds pretty close. Now i dont know how they are actually playing it but I'm doing nothing but down picking. Now i remember the 1st time i attempted this song once i had it down and i maybe lasted maybe up to the 2nd verse before my my index fingee started to hurt then soon my hand then under my forearm. My picking hand starts to burn sooner then that like at the dist verse. So i had to stop. Well actually took a week till both hands got stronger and say if i stoped for like a few days i would have to start all over. But one little trick i learned was because i was using more of my finger and thumb to pick i started to do something i call the the bouncing stroke kinda like when your playing s drum role which i have in the past and is pretty easy plus no drum lessons is you let the pick do the work when changing to the next string let it bounce off string when striking it using more of your arm kinda like when the drum stick hits the snare drum you loosen up your arms and grip let the stick bounce off the snare a little giving your drum roll the sound as if you were playing 100 bpm and using very little effort just like picking down and your finger n thumb loosen up your grip and loose hand using more arm than just wrist letting the pick bounce off the string when multi picking.
Also try holding the pick with three fingers.
How do you get that awesome tone can you make video about it?
If you write the riff you can play it how ever you please.
I might be a little late and no I did not learn this by guitar and can't do it with guitar. Only use the amount of force necessary at an explosive point on your wrist and use your elbow on the rest of the movement. Very quick changes in motion but only changing the direction enough to miss on the upstroke.
Draw at least 5 changes in direction in your muscle memory and stop thinking. This part requires you to stop thinking and it has to become instinct.