Bought UTESPERLARE a few months ago. Overall I'm satisfied with the quality and comfort. Only downside is that after few weeks it started to creak as hell. Noticed that creak was coming from side armrests due to screws rubbing into metal threads. The more you tighten it the more it creaks. Anyway, putting some WD-40 on the screws and deep inside the backrest side threads eliminated noise completely. Probably some universal grease would be better for long time.
Does your utesperlare align? The bottom half and top half I mean. If the blue line aligns from the top to the bottom. Mine doesn't one side is outside the line while the other is inside. Also between the handle and the seat 1 has more room. And if I shake 1 of my handles I can hear a piece moving inside.
In this case I just recomend you to put some rubber washers and loctite blue on the threads. The loctite blue will keep the screws to be tightly screwed and the rubber should dampen the creaks.
JÄRVFJÄLLET owner here, glad to see it's not just me having issues with this chair. Not only does the headrest cause your head to be forced into a more unneutral forward position, it also has no give at all which makes it like resting my head against a wall. I also experienced the same issue you had where one arm was a little loose (not quite as loose but still loose) as well as one was almost a quarter of an inch higher at the lowest setting than the other arm. The worst part though is the chair base itself, it starts off firm which is great but that doesn't last long. After only 4 months of use at 8-10 hours a day, I am literally sitting on the wood panel below now as the cushion has worn and did not last at all. For reference I'm 5' 9 and only weight 150-160. Feels like sitting on a school bleacher anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour of use. My sit bone is a little more prominent than others so that might be a factor, but even for the average user I feel they would experience the same issue perhaps a few more months down the line. It's a shame because it's a great looking chair and has a very nice design, but it's ruined by cheap materials. I wish I had seen more reviews first before pulling the trigger as it's definitely not worth the $300 I paid for it. It feels more like a chair aimed at casual daily use rather than long sessions of daily use.
Hey all, made a huge mistake here - the jarvfjallet lumbar CAN be adjusted. However, it was at the lowest setting during my testing so still too low for me but might be better for people I’d say 5’9 and taller! Chairs still way too wobbly and cheap for a nearly $300 chair - there are a lot better out there for that price!!!
I think you did not assemble it properly or you have got a defective unit. You also have given a poor approach to the intended way of use. Distance from the seat to the center of back cushion support on lowest is around 15-16cm if anyone is interested. I almost give up on buying after this review but decided to risk it.
in the video (when you complained) it is NOT in the lowest setting also, the tension for the decline works without applying force at 6'3 i love my jarvfjallet on my gaming setup.. would want a second one for my seperate home office, but i'm not sure about leather seating... sadly they stopped the version with cloth seat the new armrests indeed look a little frail compared to my original ones i've now ordered 3 different YT hyped gaming chairs between 300€ and 400€ - all sent back because they are pure trash compared to the jarvfjallet
@@Quarknjaguar I use the same chair with leather seating for 3 months now, It is fine, I use it for around 8-10h every day, no issues...seems pretty durable, no signs of the wear. But I see a wrinkles at front because I put my legs forward and extend seat forward to max so the weight is all on the edge of the seat. It flattens if I rub it, but could show a wear off in like year if I do not change how I sit. I am confident to recommend it to close friends so if that means anything.
I love my Jarvfjallet, I use it as an office chair. The reclining position can be locked into position and the lumbar support does move up & down (a small range though)
Nice video but I have to mention that: 1. In jarvfjallet the seat depth doesnt move only 1 inch as you mentioned and as you show in the video. Obviously you didnt push it that much forward, it has more distance than that. I have tried the chair in Ikea 2. In the matchspel the fact that headrest moves down the way you use it, it is normal. Headrests are not supposed to support the top of the head, they are supposed to support the neck, thats why it moves down the way you use it 3. In Jarvfjallet lumbar support is adjustable and it gets lower than that, it is not in the lower position as you say. From what I see in the video it has more distance to lower. Other than that it is a nice video, perhaps you should try to make videos with taller people as well, because each chair feels different according to the height
hey Antreas, I am not a light man (176 lbs) and I threw my hips forward and tried it multiple times and can't get it to move more? Maybe my chair is defective? As for the headrest, headrests should be diverse. it can be for the neck, but some people prefer it on their head! And for the Jarvfjallet, you are totally correct, but I believe it was in the lowest position. I retried it after smoeone mentioned it and even at lowest position, it's really uncomfortable for me! I think I def made some mistakes, but overall, having tested other chairs in these chairs' price point, I can safely say I'd recommend my other choices!
interesting...I just got the Matchspel...but don't have any of the issues you discussed. I'm 5'9- athletic build. My shoulder sit right into the frame and do not touch the metal edges, the reclining tension is fine. I actually lifted my feet up every inch or so of reclining and it held in place with no effort on my end. I think the critical flaw part is a big miss. It's curved to support your neck, not for you to rest the back of your head on. If you adjust it to the right spot, it'll support your neck so your aren't straining it when leaning back. Unless you are going to recline to stare at the ceiling, its a moot point.
It's not shown here, but I'm 180cm and absolutely love my IKEA Markus office chair. The price is great and it fits my frame. It probably won't be as great for every height, but I've had mine for several years and it's still going strong.
I bought a MATCHSPEL 2 months ago and I am very satisfied with the quality and lumbar support, I am a person with spine issues and I spent about 8-10 hours per day at my desk for work and play, so far it has been outstanding. The adjustable armrests are a godsend.
This is what I was looking for. Have a hip torsion that was worsened by a fall on ice and need to find a chair that supports both the back and arms (figured out not having arm rests really fucks with your back and shoulder muscles). Gonna invest in this as my first proper gaming chair. :)
@@mantax55 add 10 dollars and get the Markus if it's still in stock. I use a Markus and tried the matchspel, it's not bad, basically a cheaper Markus. For $10 more, at least give Markus a try, you might like it better. Armrests are better on Matchspel but there is no reclining pressure adjustment (although the pressure on the reclining mechanism is not that bad unlike Jarvfjallet)
I was pleased when they anounced these and they weren't your typical gaming chairs, shame about all the glaring flaws they have. Doesn't matter too much for me though as I got the Steelcase Gesture after your video on it and it's great :D
I think your Järvfjället review was quite lackluster. First of all, the seat depth adjustment is a bit limited as you say. But it does help someone like me who is 6’2". I find I get good thigh support when pushing the seat all the way out, and reclining to the first stop/position after upright. The headrest is not as bad as you say. I’ve never even been close to it when sitting upright, only when reclining. Which is the wanted effect IMO. The lumbar support pad IS adjustable in height. With a good range too actually. The metal frame is not annoying at all, even if you are tall with broad shoulders like me. All in all, I’m quite happy with my fabric Järvfjället. Definitely the best office chair for the money in Norway where I’m from. I’ve had the leather version with the adjustable armrests too (the one you’re reviewing), but I hated it. The leather is just slippery and annoying. So I returned it, and went back to my white one in fabric :) I’m not trying to be rude. Just giving a different perspective on a quite good budget chair! I’m saying all this as someone who also owns an Embody btw.
Hey I’m totally ok with the different perspective! I def got the the lumbar support wrong. I just resat in it today and my opinion still stands and here’s why: 1. The lumbar can adjust but it’s still too tall for me. I am convinced this chair is for taller people but I didn’t bring friends to test it unfortunately! 2. I still don’t love the lumbar and headrest bc of their flat designs. It prickled my head while sitting up and the lumbar felt frustrating bc it was like I had a block in my spine since it doesn’t have that much give (I have the pleather version, might be different with fabric?) 3. My biggest gripe is still that they don’t offer back tilt ease adjustment and so you rely on self pressure. This chair really does not offer an auto-adjusting tilt mechanism so I constantly found myself straining my thighs to sit in it. I realize that maybe if you’re tall you may not have this issue but you can see when I tilt back, my heels come off the floor, putting a TON of strain on my thighs and super uncomfortable overall. To me, this was the biggest frustration. I’m gonna have some friends over next week who are 6’+. I’ll have them sit in it and Who knows, I may walk back my review in a future video!! Thanks for the different perspective and more than anything, thanks for being respectful. Really appreciate it!!!!
quite strange matchspel headrest you got there. mine and my brother's both have a very tight height adjustment, so tight we could barely adjust the headrest with both hands. this however help the headrest to stay in place thus nullifying the critical flaw you mentioned
I bought the MATCHSPEL and is really satisfied. The only downside is that it doesn't have a tension control system, but you can lock the chair to any degree you want, and that saves it for me!
Somebody has to explain to me why this self-locking mechanism even exists. Is it from the age of pirates when their ships were tilting a lot and so sadly all their office chairs rolled to the side of the ship? Because I find that the floor where I live is quite consistently flat, and chairs don't tend to move by themselves. They only move when I intend to move them, and in that case I do wish them to roll instead of having to pick up a humongous piece of furniture. 😂
hahahaha love this. I could see one possible application is that if you have kids to accidentally run into your chair...my very expensive desk has gotten scratched up bc my kids keep rolling my very expensive chair into it, which now also has scratches on it...
I bought the JÄRVFJÄLLET a year ago - in gunnared grey. It seems like they changed it up a bit, because my back rest pillow IS adjustable. I usually leave it at the lowest setting, because it's uncomfortable and digs into my back if I pull it upwards. I'm about 183cm / 6 feet tall. Overall I'm satisfied with the chair. I was curious to see how it compared to these newer options.
So as a goof i sat down on one of their chairs and it was unmarked so i don't know what one it was and it was, i have a fecked up spine and it was perfect for my spine. Now my goal is to figure out what chair it was by the only metric i remember, aka how far it went back
i'm here waiting for the herman miller embody logitech and the cosm chair (which could even never be reviewed) but it's such a must channel for me that i'm thinking of buying an office chair, that i cannot be thankful enough
How?? The backrest in the järvfjället is adjustable ?!!!!! Away from this, I've the järvfjället, and the seat goes forward more than yours, but the issue here is that the seat is not stable it has been 1 month since I bought it and when I just sit a little bit lift, a little bit right or even on its edge, I feel like I'm about to fall. Also, my armrests aren't adjustable!
Utespelare is super ergonomic and supportive for me, I'm 5'10. It looks stylish and the lumbar support is absolutely necessary and great for hours of sitting. I love it. The arm rests are basically pointless though, my elbows are like 6 inches higher than the rests.
Just tried these chairs today and they are indeed not that great. Markus from Ikea (leather version) on the other hand has served me well for the past 10 years and I have yet to come across a better chair.
Really nice video on the new line up. I was really close to getting the Huvudspelare because of the price, like, entered 8 digits of my credit card close but I decided to go to the local ikea to try it out first. I'm so glad I didn't order it. Even at 172cm (5'67) the top or the chair hit the back of my head like a brick and the armrests are really inconsequential. Hope people will see this video before making the same mistake I almost did
I'm considering buying JÄRVFJÄLLET and got the chance to try it out today at IKEA. Now, I realize this test is over a year now and perhaps IKEA have done some adjustments since you did the test but there are a couple of things I can't help feeling a bit confused about. First off, are you sure that the "seat adjustment" you mention is "a joke" due to the mere "one inch" slide capability? Cause when I tested it, I would say your able to slide several "inches", in fact (I'm not too familiar with US metrics but I'd say closer to 6-7 cm at least). Then you mention "your feet will slide off" the star base of the chair. I don't get it. Why do you want to put the feet on the star base? It's not meant to have feet on it! Well, It's not a design flaw as I see it anyway. Then you mention "you really don't like" having to use your legs to be able to push the chair backwards. I don't know if this is due to the test object you received or some ergonomic uniqueness on your part, but no IKEA chair I've owned or tested in the store today had that kind of issue. You lean - chair follows. That's it! No leg push needed. Traditional gaming chairs, on the other hand, I agree, have this issue. Then we have the head rest. Perhaps, I'm prepared to meet you half way here. Yes, the head rest may push your head forward a bit, but you don't really use it when gaming or doing office work anyway! How do you sit by the office table? I don't understand how it "gets in the way", as you say. I usually only use a head rest when watching films or doing more relaxed activities. I'm very happy to find a head rest on a chair in this price class, considering the rest of the features. That said, some sort of tilt would perhaps been preferred but not at the expanse of a (large) price increase. The lumbar has already been mentioned here and although I haven't got the chance to use the chair for a long time, as far as I could feel, it seems well positioned and flexible. Some things I do agree on though. The arm rests do feel a bit to cheap and plastic. I'm sure they'll do their work if mounted properly but, otherwise, you can always remove them. Or perhaps replace them (hopefully without losing the warranty). The ones I tested weren't lose but rather too easy to adjust. You barely needed to touch the things in order to change the positions. In the end, you mentioned that there are better chairs in this price class but I failed to see witch ones. Perhaps you could clarify that for me, if you please? For reference I'm 170 cm (5'58'') and around 76 kg (167 lb).
Too bad I didn't watch your video before my purchase of Matchspel chair. I just disassembled it and I'm returning it to Ikea today. This chair is a disaster for short people, the front part is leaning you towards the ground, the back support is pushing you towards and there just not enough pad at the front to support your legs. Also, the chair is in general a few cm higher than others, so if you have a lower office desk like I do, you'll feel like being elevated. Ikea is great, but their chairs are not the best option. At least not for me.
self locking casters are the worst invention ever! its like emission norms in cars. just makes absolutely no sense at all. the first thing i changed on my utelspelare. its like they said no! you wont move the chair around, there is no need. if you need to get it from a room to room, either sit down and take half an hour to get there, or hoist it over your head and scratch it on every door frame in the house :D
11:30 I just bought a MATCHSPEL (which I really like) and I don't have this problem at all. Everything is fixed and stays in place, maybe you got a default on your chair.
thinking of getting the HUVUDSPELARE. im tired of my office chair and getting a sweaty back and stuff. the arm rest are also a BIT too low as well and it doesn't go up high enough. anyone have this one?
Well, if you have a option you better try those chairs by yourself. Chairs are really subjective to sit on, every BUTT is different and what doesn't suit Dan might suit you. I have simillar weight and height as Dan and I found HUVUDSPELARE comfortable.
Nice video. Wish i saw this earlier. I just bought the jarvfjallet 2 days ago and manage to return it. I should sit on it for a longer time when i was at the show room. Overall its not a bad chair but doesnt fit to me. The cusion is abit firm, hard to sit on it for more than an hour. Also when you recline. The sit doesnt recline as well. Basically you’re putting alot of pressure on your upper butt and lower back. The back is tall which is good for me since im 6’3 but the lumbar support is bad. You can move it up n down but probably only for an inch, its useless cuz it never hit to the spot where i feel comfortable and its really stiff, more like a lumbar attack. My suggestion is that always sit on the chair for more than 20 mins in different postures if you are able to test them.
Your videos are RAD! You saved me to buy Matchspel haha! which one to buy now, I have my eyes on Mfavour (seem like Mfavour is available here but it's a different models than yours) , OR KERDOM Ergonomics, what do you think?
Thanks for the review of ikea chairs, going to look at ur channels for other chairs. Almost bought the ikea gaming chair as they are cheaper than other gaming chairs.
Get a second hand Markus and DIY the arms to your liking! This is what I did and I love it to this day. You have to also consider the aftersales and warranty support of these chairs compared to the other budget ones that feels absurdly plastic.
I love the Jarvfjallet, I've tried it out in store and am addicted because it is the only office chair I have ever sat in that is tall enough for my head. Sadly it has been out of stock for months at all of the Ikea's near me. It also looks like it is being discontinued for some reason. Such a bummer.
I purchased both the Matchspel and Jarffjallet that were on sale on my local IKEA store (120 and 200 euro) and my overall impression is that these are actually pretty good upgrade over the gaming chairs they were replacing. Open mesh back, non frivolous "gamer" designs, independent back tilt and the most important of all, it's way easier to replace the covers and cushions when worn out (wich is something that will definitelly happen with ANY chair). I actually was going to use the Matchspel and give the Jarf to my girlfriend but she decided to take the the Match as it was shorter and had a softer headrest. She didn't had issues with the fact that the chair was missing lumbar support (as she actually don't like them) and didn't had the issue of touching the metal bar (but she's 50kg and usually mantains proper posture). I also found that Matchspel armrest ar far superior to the Jarf as they are bigger and WAY more stable, they are also mounted to the arms with screws, meaning than you can just purchase better ones at Aliexpress, and screw them (or simply add some cheap armrest cushions) and in fact, a lot of the caveats that these chairs may have seem to be easy fixable with a little bit of DIY. I know that there are similar if not better chairs at those price ranges (like the Staples Hyken) but a lot of these brands don't ship where I live (Canary Islands) or include additional shipping costs+taxes which makes them a way more expensive, also being able to test them and purchase them in person makes the IKEA ones a lot more convenient (specially if you ever have to RMA or make use of the warranty). P.D: I think your review is wrong regarding Jarf lumbar support as it definitely does allows to adjust it's height sliding it. In my case I never had issues with it (but I'm also taller - 184cm).
I'd recommend the "Hattefjäll" if you want an Ikea office-chair. It's their top non-gaming chair, which I tried today at my local Ikea against their two top gaming-chairs ("Matchspel" and "Gruppspel"). The non-gaming one felt the most comfortable and sturdy to me - it doesn't come with a headrest, which doesn't bother me but might be a no-go for some people.
I bought the cheapest of these options back around a month ago despite your lack of recommendation It's pretty comfy, decent back support, I love the tilt feature! As someone who's 5'11 while the head rest obviously isn't right there to lay your head back & enjoy like premium offerings it's as just the right spot that I can lay my head back & have some support
Hey ! I’m 6 foots tall and the Huvudspelare is the most confortable chair ever for me. I dont feel any metal edge. The curve for the back fit me perfectly! I spray paint the arm chair cause the red is not for me. I just wanted to say that is hard to say that is uncomfortable for any body. Thanks for the video
It would help if you reviewed other budget options like the Staples Dexley Chair. I found your channel very informative since I’m hunting for the best bang for my buck chair.
4:05 "This chair is still design for relatively short people, but on the taller end of the short scale. (...) I think it's gonna be better for people who are about 5 9 to 5 11" So 5 11 is short ? Uh ok.
The castor are by default hard castors, meaning it’s for soft ground, like carpet. U should see the diff when u roll it in carpet. For hard surfaces, ikea should have given a soft castors option which I dun think they have anyways. HM, Haworth, Knoll, SC all have this options and trust me, your laminate wooden floor will love you a lot with soft xastors
i cant find a chair that also adjusts to such tall height as the matchspel so i think i'll still go with it even though im technically too tall for it.. there's also the GRUPPSPEL chair that they added with a similar design
I tried the Matchspell and Jarfvjallet today. The second's one seat adjustment by a few centimenters is to fix the 'issue' presented by you as the headrest being in front of headrest, thus it was never intended to be a true seat adjustment feature.
Great review, Dan. I was considering the Huvudspelare but now I will continue to look for alternatives. However I dont agree with your assessment of the self locking casters. I have an ikea chair with these and for me the logical design would have been locking (or at least semi-locking) when you sit down and unlocked when you stand up. When I am at my desk, any leaning forward and the chair tries to push away from the desk, which for me is very annoying.
I was getting ready to order the Haworth Fern, but now that I know you're getting one soon I feel like I should wait for your review. Hope it comes up very soon!
Just the review I’m looking for. Was considering the MATCHSPEL since it matches well with my PS5 set-up.. white-blue, but looks like it is not a great buy after all considering there’s a lot of other options at that price range.
@@Ahnestly I'm not surprised tbh. I probably wouldn't like these if i sat in 1000$ chairs lol. Anyway just tried out both today and i think the markus is more comfy overall and i like the back design better. I find it better for people with broad build.
Naw I really try to take the mindset of chairs in a similar price range and then also a common sense approach. Like the huvudspalare, just an awful design with exposed metal where the head is!! The other chairs I tried to think, ok, this, or the staples Hyken? Or other 200 chairs I’ve tested!
@@cybericarus1476 I'm Turkish too and I've used Markus for maybe 6-7 years. To be honest it's one of the best in this price range in Turkey. Those knockoffs you mentioned really suck.
Hi! Great review thank you! I’m shorter than you (1.59) and I believe alternative chairs you showed in other videos are not available in my country. The best I can find is IKEA. I’m looking for a chair to study actually. What is the best chair that I could find in IKEA?
I swear by god maybe ikea office chair are worth it better than their gaming chair because the hand rest is too skinny. The ikea spring mattress have sound & i not sure how i damage the spring with fixed together bed frame & it got black bed bugs hiding near the wall & mattress side when i discover the black bed bugs when i bought the 4 wooden legs from ikea to replace the metal legs that is broken and it says warranty 10 years but i quickly disposed it near 7 or 8 years when i see the black bed begs that can move and squash it a lot of blood come out and i immediately got myself a expensive pocket spring dunlopillo latex mattress. But ikea loft Metal bed frame are worth it bought for sgd 199 and sold it at sgd 50 good price.
I like Ikea products a lot, and have bought loads of stuff however I needed to buy an office chair and even with a voucher from ikea covering most of the cost I could not buy any, they are all crap. I'm six foot and they all felt uncomfortable and cheap AF
U earned yourself a new subscriber. I literally LOL at some parts which i thought it was pure pun. In the end it's just nice fancy pants names with no substance for the chairs.
Ikea, please make a game table, frame from UTESPELARE and table top like FREDDE, it will be a hit of sales! FREDDE has a very comfortable tabletop with a cutout for the human body, but everything else is just very cumbersome, a lot of unnecessary details! Please do ... PS: I had to buy UTESPELARE because it is more practical and convenient, but FREDDE worktop is the best!
Hi is it possible to make a video for shorther people, the best chaire in your opinion. I 'm 5"3 and cant find something convinient. Some have no lambar support or either nor armrest adjustement.
My pick would be the staples hyken but the real problem is, I don’t have a lot of friends at that height and the girls who I know are don’t really love the idea of being on camera!
I got my embody yesterday and it has been nothing but painful. I can sit on it fine for about 30 mins before getting bad lower back pain. Thinking about selling it and going with something else. any thoughts?
Hey! So just like mattresses, chairs have an adjustment period. Also, why sell? Why not return? I’d say use it for the maximum window allowed for return and if you’re still not good, then return it!
Hi, thanks for doing this review. These new "gaming chairs" just dropped so I was happy to see someone already did a review on them. Definitely liking this video. One question though that isn't related to the subject matter of this video, you mentioned that you have an IKEA couch that you really like. May I ask which one it is?
My jarfjallet is much different than yours. Static armwrests, no wiggle, adjustable lumbar support. The seat moves way more than an inch and I can't think of anything else.
Wanting to replace the wheels on my utespelare chair, but the stems seem smaller than the standard universal size. Do you know the size of them? Wanting to get nice rubber caster wheels but the ones I ordered the stem is thicker/bigger and don’t fit inside the chair. Help!
Me too £100. I've had a 10 year old Markus. The seat is firmer and the back feels different, it forces you to sit up straight more than the Markus does.
hahaah ohgod, when you said swedish and german are similar, no they're not! It did feel like as the review went on, you did pronounce it better and better, but maybe I just got used to it. but you did pronounce järvfjället really well !! thanks for the review.
Can you give me any recommendation for a chair that’s better in the same price range? I live in Australia and unfortunately, my options are a bit limited in range.
Hi, Indonesian here, at this point i've been using the Jarvfjallet for a year now. I'm 6'1 and 205.something lbs. Straight of the bat, the arms on my chair is static a.k.a cannot be adjusted (in your vid it shows it can go up and down) and I HATE it! It has this weird relationship with my desk, it's like if I set my arms' chair levels with the top of my desk, it bumps with my desk so I kinda like need to stretch my arms further to type and if lower my chair so it can slide under my desk, the way I type is awkward like I have to raise my hands a bit and pushing my shoulder upward, in a long run (i sit 10-12+ hoursI my laptop is my life, i play games, watch movies, work, etc.) it gives me a headache. Well, i can go wider (spread my arms open), but then my hand will tilt inward when approaching my keyboard (I use normal size keyboard, not TKL) and the palms like bent outward, it's weird okay. Let's see where was i, oh yeah, lets go to the lumbar support. Man, this thing is aggressive as F. What happen to me now; i rest my lower back on that lumbar support and the rest (upper back) just bent forward, what I'm trying to say is, it doesn't motivates you to seat upward (as supposed to). So, i don't know if you going to believe me on onis, it gives pressure to my kidneys, well that's extreme and I happen to be someone who somewhat believes in acupuncture points, i mean bloodflow to kidneys area somewhat impeded. Moreover, when you tilt back to chill, guess what, that F-ing lumbar support really digging into your back, not the kind of chill imaginable. Hold on, I'm not done here. Seat height. I never get my seat height perfectly, if i sit with my knee 90 degrees, it put pressure on my tailbone (oh yeah the cushion also a problem) and if i raised it just a little bit, it put pressure where my back thigh met with the seat frame, you know, behind the knee. What? just buy new padding for the seat you say? Here's the thing, the seat is big I give you that, you can sit cross-legged no problem, now, I couldn't find big enough padding for the entire seat (maybe I need to put some effort into it). Anyway, if you put smaller padding on top of the seat, what happens, you'll get extra pressure on your back thigh; one when the padding ends, and when the cushion ends. Oh man, I can go on and on... What I'm trying to share with you and probably your followers, if you really, really want an ikea chair, seat on it for at lest 30 mins and drag that chair around to several table (dining table, work table, whatever table ikea has in that area) before you make decision. I bought this chair for around 200+ USD, and it's a lot, to put you on perspective, 200USD can feed a family of four for 2-3 weeks around here, well maybe i exaggerating a bit there... a bit, not much heck i pay my maid that amount of money monthly. So yeah, if you confused what chair to buy and HM/SC is not even in your financial radar and if you think Ikea is the safest bet, well, it's not. Talk (persuasion or manipulation what have you) to your partner or your family about getting, at least, SecretLab's. Sorry for the long rant, i re-read my comment and i thought i can make it shorter, but hell, let the world know... Let it burn.
Ah rite, i'm not getting paid by SecretLab, I think at this point any chair reviewed in this channel is better than what I currently have. Look, my Jarfjallet is my long-researched-my-first-endeavor to so-called ergonomic chair north to 100USD and it was my "oh I'm going to use this chair for a long time since it's so good and I could afford it barely without selling my kid". I understand, to be fair, when Ikea make a product, it is intended for the world with all those varieties, some might like it, some might love it, while some might not work at all, I get it, they want to cater as wide as the market they can grab.
Im Swedish, you butchered the names bro. But thanks for the review!
HAHAHAHAHA DAMNIT. I thought I did a good job. I googled all of them for pronunciations and jarvfjallet was the only one that showed up
Also, pinning this comment.
It's only fair, since Ikea butchered these chairs.
He also thought they were in German.
No, I didn’t. I said they were similar. Swedish and German are from the same language tree.
Bought UTESPERLARE a few months ago. Overall I'm satisfied with the quality and comfort. Only downside is that after few weeks it started to creak as hell. Noticed that creak was coming from side armrests due to screws rubbing into metal threads. The more you tighten it the more it creaks. Anyway, putting some WD-40 on the screws and deep inside the backrest side threads eliminated noise completely. Probably some universal grease would be better for long time.
Glad you like it!!
Does your utesperlare align? The bottom half and top half I mean. If the blue line aligns from the top to the bottom. Mine doesn't one side is outside the line while the other is inside. Also between the handle and the seat 1 has more room. And if I shake 1 of my handles I can hear a piece moving inside.
In this case I just recomend you to put some rubber washers and loctite blue on the threads. The loctite blue will keep the screws to be tightly screwed and the rubber should dampen the creaks.
JÄRVFJÄLLET owner here, glad to see it's not just me having issues with this chair. Not only does the headrest cause your head to be forced into a more unneutral forward position, it also has no give at all which makes it like resting my head against a wall. I also experienced the same issue you had where one arm was a little loose (not quite as loose but still loose) as well as one was almost a quarter of an inch higher at the lowest setting than the other arm. The worst part though is the chair base itself, it starts off firm which is great but that doesn't last long. After only 4 months of use at 8-10 hours a day, I am literally sitting on the wood panel below now as the cushion has worn and did not last at all. For reference I'm 5' 9 and only weight 150-160. Feels like sitting on a school bleacher anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour of use. My sit bone is a little more prominent than others so that might be a factor, but even for the average user I feel they would experience the same issue perhaps a few more months down the line. It's a shame because it's a great looking chair and has a very nice design, but it's ruined by cheap materials. I wish I had seen more reviews first before pulling the trigger as it's definitely not worth the $300 I paid for it. It feels more like a chair aimed at casual daily use rather than long sessions of daily use.
Hey all, made a huge mistake here - the jarvfjallet lumbar CAN be adjusted. However, it was at the lowest setting during my testing so still too low for me but might be better for people I’d say 5’9 and taller! Chairs still way too wobbly and cheap for a nearly $300 chair - there are a lot better out there for that price!!!
Yo do you have time to help me out? You seem like you have tried a lot of chairs and I have some questions.
I think you did not assemble it properly or you have got a defective unit. You also have given a poor approach to the intended way of use. Distance from the seat to the center of back cushion support on lowest is around 15-16cm if anyone is interested. I almost give up on buying after this review but decided to risk it.
Can you share reviews on cheaper chairs that range? So far I'm only seeing videos for price range over 500
in the video (when you complained) it is NOT in the lowest setting
also, the tension for the decline works without applying force at 6'3
i love my jarvfjallet on my gaming setup.. would want a second one for my seperate home office, but i'm not sure about leather seating... sadly they stopped the version with cloth seat
the new armrests indeed look a little frail compared to my original ones
i've now ordered 3 different YT hyped gaming chairs between 300€ and 400€ - all sent back because they are pure trash compared to the jarvfjallet
@@Quarknjaguar I use the same chair with leather seating for 3 months now, It is fine, I use it for around 8-10h every day, no issues...seems pretty durable, no signs of the wear. But I see a wrinkles at front because I put my legs forward and extend seat forward to max so the weight is all on the edge of the seat. It flattens if I rub it, but could show a wear off in like year if I do not change how I sit. I am confident to recommend it to close friends so if that means anything.
Dude, you’re killing it with these chair videos. Keep them coming, and thanks for all effort you put into this.
Thank you!!!
I love my Jarvfjallet, I use it as an office chair.
The reclining position can be locked into position and the lumbar support does move up & down (a small range though)
Yeah I totally missed the lumbar being able to move! I still can't recommend it when I've tried some of the other chairs in its price point!
I bought mine last month, and agree with your point. Its the best Ergonomic chair in its price point.
Can u lock it in any position or only when fully reclined?
@@DJESHGAMING You can lock it in multiple positions
Nice video but I have to mention that:
1. In jarvfjallet the seat depth doesnt move only 1 inch as you mentioned and as you show in the video. Obviously you didnt push it that much forward, it has more distance than that. I have tried the chair in Ikea
2. In the matchspel the fact that headrest moves down the way you use it, it is normal. Headrests are not supposed to support the top of the head, they are supposed to support the neck, thats why it moves down the way you use it
3. In Jarvfjallet lumbar support is adjustable and it gets lower than that, it is not in the lower position as you say. From what I see in the video it has more distance to lower.
Other than that it is a nice video, perhaps you should try to make videos with taller people as well, because each chair feels different according to the height
hey Antreas, I am not a light man (176 lbs) and I threw my hips forward and tried it multiple times and can't get it to move more? Maybe my chair is defective? As for the headrest, headrests should be diverse. it can be for the neck, but some people prefer it on their head! And for the Jarvfjallet, you are totally correct, but I believe it was in the lowest position. I retried it after smoeone mentioned it and even at lowest position, it's really uncomfortable for me! I think I def made some mistakes, but overall, having tested other chairs in these chairs' price point, I can safely say I'd recommend my other choices!
interesting...I just got the Matchspel...but don't have any of the issues you discussed. I'm 5'9- athletic build. My shoulder sit right into the frame and do not touch the metal edges, the reclining tension is fine. I actually lifted my feet up every inch or so of reclining and it held in place with no effort on my end. I think the critical flaw part is a big miss. It's curved to support your neck, not for you to rest the back of your head on. If you adjust it to the right spot, it'll support your neck so your aren't straining it when leaning back. Unless you are going to recline to stare at the ceiling, its a moot point.
I'm glad you like it!!! My back is not your back, so don't let my opinion hold you back!
You can sit in the worst chair in the world for an hour and no pain. Try it for 9 hours straight
It's not shown here, but I'm 180cm and absolutely love my IKEA Markus office chair. The price is great and it fits my frame. It probably won't be as great for every height, but I've had mine for several years and it's still going strong.
Thank you for saving me 2 days for buying all of these chairs, assembling them, comparing them, and returning all of them back to Ikea.
Prison Mike! Glad you made some time now that you're out of the clink. Tell Michael Scott I said hello :-D
I bought a MATCHSPEL 2 months ago and I am very satisfied with the quality and lumbar support, I am a person with spine issues and I spent about 8-10 hours per day at my desk for work and play, so far it has been outstanding. The
adjustable armrests are a godsend.
is it good for 6ft6 person?
Awesome!! Glad you liked it!
This is what I was looking for. Have a hip torsion that was worsened by a fall on ice and need to find a chair that supports both the back and arms (figured out not having arm rests really fucks with your back and shoulder muscles). Gonna invest in this as my first proper gaming chair. :)
@@mantax55 add 10 dollars and get the Markus if it's still in stock. I use a Markus and tried the matchspel, it's not bad, basically a cheaper Markus. For $10 more, at least give Markus a try, you might like it better. Armrests are better on Matchspel but there is no reclining pressure adjustment (although the pressure on the reclining mechanism is not that bad unlike Jarvfjallet)
I'm glad I ordered this, it looks like a good sturdy chair :)
I was pleased when they anounced these and they weren't your typical gaming chairs, shame about all the glaring flaws they have. Doesn't matter too much for me though as I got the Steelcase Gesture after your video on it and it's great :D
Nice!!!
I think your Järvfjället review was quite lackluster.
First of all, the seat depth adjustment is a bit limited as you say. But it does help someone like me who is 6’2". I find I get good thigh support when pushing the seat all the way out, and reclining to the first stop/position after upright.
The headrest is not as bad as you say. I’ve never even been close to it when sitting upright, only when reclining. Which is the wanted effect IMO.
The lumbar support pad IS adjustable in height. With a good range too actually.
The metal frame is not annoying at all, even if you are tall with broad shoulders like me.
All in all, I’m quite happy with my fabric Järvfjället. Definitely the best office chair for the money in Norway where I’m from. I’ve had the leather version with the adjustable armrests too (the one you’re reviewing), but I hated it. The leather is just slippery and annoying. So I returned it, and went back to my white one in fabric :)
I’m not trying to be rude. Just giving a different perspective on a quite good budget chair!
I’m saying all this as someone who also owns an Embody btw.
Hey I’m totally ok with the different perspective! I def got the the lumbar support wrong. I just resat in it today and my opinion still stands and here’s why:
1. The lumbar can adjust but it’s still too tall for me. I am convinced this chair is for taller people but I didn’t bring friends to test it unfortunately!
2. I still don’t love the lumbar and headrest bc of their flat designs. It prickled my head while sitting up and the lumbar felt frustrating bc it was like I had a block in my spine since it doesn’t have that much give (I have the pleather version, might be different with fabric?)
3. My biggest gripe is still that they don’t offer back tilt ease adjustment and so you rely on self pressure. This chair really does not offer an auto-adjusting tilt mechanism so I constantly found myself straining my thighs to sit in it. I realize that maybe if you’re tall you may not have this issue but you can see when I tilt back, my heels come off the floor, putting a TON of strain on my thighs and super uncomfortable overall. To me, this was the biggest frustration.
I’m gonna have some friends over next week who are 6’+. I’ll have them sit in it and Who knows, I may walk back my review in a future video!!
Thanks for the different perspective and more than anything, thanks for being respectful. Really appreciate it!!!!
quite strange matchspel headrest you got there. mine and my brother's both have a very tight height adjustment, so tight we could barely adjust the headrest with both hands. this however help the headrest to stay in place thus nullifying the critical flaw you mentioned
You're not the first to mention this...maybe mine was messed up!
I bought the MATCHSPEL and is really satisfied. The only downside is that it doesn't have a tension control system, but you can lock the chair to any degree you want, and that saves it for me!
How can you lock it, I'm so confused for days now 😭😭
Somebody has to explain to me why this self-locking mechanism even exists. Is it from the age of pirates when their ships were tilting a lot and so sadly all their office chairs rolled to the side of the ship? Because I find that the floor where I live is quite consistently flat, and chairs don't tend to move by themselves. They only move when I intend to move them, and in that case I do wish them to roll instead of having to pick up a humongous piece of furniture. 😂
hahahaha love this. I could see one possible application is that if you have kids to accidentally run into your chair...my very expensive desk has gotten scratched up bc my kids keep rolling my very expensive chair into it, which now also has scratches on it...
Was about to impulse buy the cheapest one, decided to look at reviews first. Glad I found this one!
Glad it helped!!
I bought the JÄRVFJÄLLET a year ago - in gunnared grey.
It seems like they changed it up a bit, because my back rest pillow IS adjustable.
I usually leave it at the lowest setting, because it's uncomfortable and digs into my back if I pull it upwards.
I'm about 183cm / 6 feet tall.
Overall I'm satisfied with the chair. I was curious to see how it compared to these newer options.
He’s so right about the huvudspelare. Been using it for almost 2 years now and this has brought me more pain than comfort.
As a short person, Matchspel would be just perfect for me but the headrest is just a tad too high to take advantage of it.
How tall are you
@@scoates8780 ~165 cm. Tbh the whole backrest feels uncomfortable for me now.
So as a goof i sat down on one of their chairs and it was unmarked so i don't know what one it was and it was, i have a fecked up spine and it was perfect for my spine.
Now my goal is to figure out what chair it was by the only metric i remember, aka how far it went back
The JÄRVFJÄLLET back support cushion is adjustable. Great chair for the money. Wish it had tilt tension adjustability.
Hearing you say the IKEA names as a Swede is hilarious. Effort well appreciated and a great vid, thanks man!
Hahahaha ugh sorry for the butchering!! I thought I was doing a decent job….
i'm here waiting for the herman miller embody logitech and the cosm chair (which could even never be reviewed) but it's such a must channel for me that i'm thinking of buying an office chair, that i cannot be thankful enough
How?? The backrest in the järvfjället is adjustable ?!!!!! Away from this, I've the järvfjället, and the seat goes forward more than yours, but the issue here is that the seat is not stable it has been 1 month since I bought it and when I just sit a little bit lift, a little bit right or even on its edge, I feel like I'm about to fall. Also, my armrests aren't adjustable!
Utespelare is super ergonomic and supportive for me, I'm 5'10. It looks stylish and the lumbar support is absolutely necessary and great for hours of sitting. I love it. The arm rests are basically pointless though, my elbows are like 6 inches higher than the rests.
Just tried these chairs today and they are indeed not that great. Markus from Ikea (leather version) on the other hand has served me well for the past 10 years and I have yet to come across a better chair.
Really nice video on the new line up. I was really close to getting the Huvudspelare because of the price, like, entered 8 digits of my credit card close but I decided to go to the local ikea to try it out first.
I'm so glad I didn't order it. Even at 172cm (5'67) the top or the chair hit the back of my head like a brick and the armrests are really inconsequential. Hope people will see this video before making the same mistake I almost did
Yeah man...really bad chair. Luckily, Ikea's return policy is excellent
Unfortunately i just bught it :(
I'm considering buying JÄRVFJÄLLET and got the chance to try it out today at IKEA. Now, I realize this test is over a year now and perhaps IKEA have done some adjustments since you did the test but there are a couple of things I can't help feeling a bit confused about.
First off, are you sure that the "seat adjustment" you mention is "a joke" due to the mere "one inch" slide capability? Cause when I tested it, I would say your able to slide several "inches", in fact (I'm not too familiar with US metrics but I'd say closer to 6-7 cm at least).
Then you mention "your feet will slide off" the star base of the chair. I don't get it. Why do you want to put the feet on the star base? It's not meant to have feet on it! Well, It's not a design flaw as I see it anyway.
Then you mention "you really don't like" having to use your legs to be able to push the chair backwards. I don't know if this is due to the test object you received or some ergonomic uniqueness on your part, but no IKEA chair I've owned or tested in the store today had that kind of issue. You lean - chair follows. That's it! No leg push needed. Traditional gaming chairs, on the other hand, I agree, have this issue.
Then we have the head rest. Perhaps, I'm prepared to meet you half way here. Yes, the head rest may push your head forward a bit, but you don't really use it when gaming or doing office work anyway! How do you sit by the office table? I don't understand how it "gets in the way", as you say. I usually only use a head rest when watching films or doing more relaxed activities. I'm very happy to find a head rest on a chair in this price class, considering the rest of the features. That said, some sort of tilt would perhaps been preferred but not at the expanse of a (large) price increase.
The lumbar has already been mentioned here and although I haven't got the chance to use the chair for a long time, as far as I could feel, it seems well positioned and flexible.
Some things I do agree on though. The arm rests do feel a bit to cheap and plastic. I'm sure they'll do their work if mounted properly but, otherwise, you can always remove them. Or perhaps replace them (hopefully without losing the warranty). The ones I tested weren't lose but rather too easy to adjust. You barely needed to touch the things in order to change the positions.
In the end, you mentioned that there are better chairs in this price class but I failed to see witch ones. Perhaps you could clarify that for me, if you please?
For reference I'm 170 cm (5'58'') and around 76 kg (167 lb).
Too bad I didn't watch your video before my purchase of Matchspel chair. I just disassembled it and I'm returning it to Ikea today. This chair is a disaster for short people, the front part is leaning you towards the ground, the back support is pushing you towards and there just not enough pad at the front to support your legs. Also, the chair is in general a few cm higher than others, so if you have a lower office desk like I do, you'll feel like being elevated. Ikea is great, but their chairs are not the best option. At least not for me.
Glad you agree!!!
self locking casters are the worst invention ever! its like emission norms in cars. just makes absolutely no sense at all. the first thing i changed on my utelspelare. its like they said no! you wont move the chair around, there is no need. if you need to get it from a room to room, either sit down and take half an hour to get there, or hoist it over your head and scratch it on every door frame in the house :D
as a short king I needed another short king to review some chairs
I hope you find that short king! :p I’m just a short jester bro
The self-locking castors are honestly the worst for floors as they scratch up floor even faster than usually.
11:30 I just bought a MATCHSPEL (which I really like) and I don't have this problem at all. Everything is fixed and stays in place, maybe you got a default on your chair.
Bought matshpell last week and its really cool. For my body the best model from ikea
thinking of getting the HUVUDSPELARE. im tired of my office chair and getting a sweaty back and stuff. the arm rest are also a BIT too low as well and it doesn't go up high enough. anyone have this one?
You have no idea how useful this has been for me!🤩 thanks so much ✌🏼
Well, if you have a option you better try those chairs by yourself. Chairs are really subjective to sit on, every BUTT is different and what doesn't suit Dan might suit you. I have simillar weight and height as Dan and I found HUVUDSPELARE comfortable.
Nice video. Wish i saw this earlier. I just bought the jarvfjallet 2 days ago and manage to return it. I should sit on it for a longer time when i was at the show room. Overall its not a bad chair but doesnt fit to me. The cusion is abit firm, hard to sit on it for more than an hour. Also when you recline. The sit doesnt recline as well. Basically you’re putting alot of pressure on your upper butt and lower back. The back is tall which is good for me since im 6’3 but the lumbar support is bad. You can move it up n down but probably only for an inch, its useless cuz it never hit to the spot where i feel comfortable and its really stiff, more like a lumbar attack. My suggestion is that always sit on the chair for more than 20 mins in different postures if you are able to test them.
Your videos are RAD! You saved me to buy Matchspel haha! which one to buy now, I have my eyes on Mfavour (seem like Mfavour is available here but it's a different models than yours) , OR KERDOM Ergonomics, what do you think?
Superb review. I was skeptical towards the chairs. I won't go with any of these. I too have back problems.
There is one more new IKEA chair I believe name GRUPPSPEL if you could do review on it as well. :)
All sold out in my area :-(
I sat on the two middle ones last week for a while, both so comfy :)
nice!
I really enjoy your reviews, very informative and well-edited/produced. I hope your channel blows up tbh you deserve more subs and viewers.
Thank you so much for the kind words!!
I wish the Jarvfjallet had the headrest of the Matchspel 😭
yeah that would have been MUCH nicer!!
If you go cheap, get the Ikea Flintan - it's ok for the price (but think about buying an additional pillow for your back).
I refuse. After two flintan I added a pillow but the pillow kept pushing me forward and off the chair. So much pain from the bare chair
Thanks for the review of ikea chairs, going to look at ur channels for other chairs. Almost bought the ikea gaming chair as they are cheaper than other gaming chairs.
Thanks for the kind words! Hope it helped!
Get a second hand Markus and DIY the arms to your liking! This is what I did and I love it to this day. You have to also consider the aftersales and warranty support of these chairs compared to the other budget ones that feels absurdly plastic.
Totally agree on warranty and after sales of it being ikea, but for me, I felt like the chairs just really weren’t that comfortable!
I love the Jarvfjallet, I've tried it out in store and am addicted because it is the only office chair I have ever sat in that is tall enough for my head. Sadly it has been out of stock for months at all of the Ikea's near me. It also looks like it is being discontinued for some reason. Such a bummer.
I purchased both the Matchspel and Jarffjallet that were on sale on my local IKEA store (120 and 200 euro) and my overall impression is that these are actually pretty good upgrade over the gaming chairs they were replacing. Open mesh back, non frivolous "gamer" designs, independent back tilt and the most important of all, it's way easier to replace the covers and cushions when worn out (wich is something that will definitelly happen with ANY chair).
I actually was going to use the Matchspel and give the Jarf to my girlfriend but she decided to take the the Match as it was shorter and had a softer headrest. She didn't had issues with the fact that the chair was missing lumbar support (as she actually don't like them) and didn't had the issue of touching the metal bar (but she's 50kg and usually mantains proper posture). I also found that Matchspel armrest ar far superior to the Jarf as they are bigger and WAY more stable, they are also mounted to the arms with screws, meaning than you can just purchase better ones at Aliexpress, and screw them (or simply add some cheap armrest cushions) and in fact, a lot of the caveats that these chairs may have seem to be easy fixable with a little bit of DIY.
I know that there are similar if not better chairs at those price ranges (like the Staples Hyken) but a lot of these brands don't ship where I live (Canary Islands) or include additional shipping costs+taxes which makes them a way more expensive, also being able to test them and purchase them in person makes the IKEA ones a lot more convenient (specially if you ever have to RMA or make use of the warranty).
P.D: I think your review is wrong regarding Jarf lumbar support as it definitely does allows to adjust it's height sliding it. In my case I never had issues with it (but I'm also taller - 184cm).
i like your reviews, but you seem like ignoring theres a body/torso/overall height ratio
I'd recommend the "Hattefjäll" if you want an Ikea office-chair. It's their top non-gaming chair, which I tried today at my local Ikea against their two top gaming-chairs ("Matchspel" and "Gruppspel"). The non-gaming one felt the most comfortable and sturdy to me - it doesn't come with a headrest, which doesn't bother me but might be a no-go for some people.
I bought the cheapest of these options back around a month ago despite your lack of recommendation
It's pretty comfy, decent back support, I love the tilt feature! As someone who's 5'11 while the head rest obviously isn't right there to lay your head back & enjoy like premium offerings it's as just the right spot that I can lay my head back & have some support
Hey ! I’m 6 foots tall and the Huvudspelare is the most confortable chair ever for me. I dont feel any metal edge. The curve for the back fit me perfectly! I spray paint the arm chair cause the red is not for me. I just wanted to say that is hard to say that is uncomfortable for any body. Thanks for the video
I went with Alefjall, really not impressed by the other offerings. (6'1")
It would help if you reviewed other budget options like the Staples Dexley Chair. I found your channel very informative since I’m hunting for the best bang for my buck chair.
4:05 "This chair is still design for relatively short people, but on the taller end of the short scale. (...) I think it's gonna be better for people who are about 5 9 to 5 11"
So 5 11 is short ? Uh ok.
The castor are by default hard castors, meaning it’s for soft ground, like carpet. U should see the diff when u roll it in carpet. For hard surfaces, ikea should have given a soft castors option which I dun think they have anyways. HM, Haworth, Knoll, SC all have this options and trust me, your laminate wooden floor will love you a lot with soft xastors
You can always switch them out with different castors! Really easy to do!
You’re pretty wrong on the jarvfjallet. You can push the seat MUCH further forward than you did AND the lumbar support ia adjustable.
i cant find a chair that also adjusts to such tall height as the matchspel so i think i'll still go with it even though im technically too tall for it.. there's also the GRUPPSPEL chair that they added with a similar design
Back rest is adjustable on the Jarvf. I believe there must be a assembly issue.
im not swedish, but i do like sweedish fish bro, good review
dude. some nights...swedish fish just SLAPS.
....usually stealing my kids' swedish fish, but slaps nonetheless
Try out the markus please, i think its the best chair for ppl with broad shoulders
Thanks for the detailed review. It would be cool if you could review the new ikea chair Styrspel too.
I tried the Matchspell and Jarfvjallet today. The second's one seat adjustment by a few centimenters is to fix the 'issue' presented by you as the headrest being in front of headrest, thus it was never intended to be a true seat adjustment feature.
Great review, Dan. I was considering the Huvudspelare but now I will continue to look for alternatives.
However I dont agree with your assessment of the self locking casters. I have an ikea chair with these and for me the logical design would have been locking (or at least semi-locking) when you sit down and unlocked when you stand up. When I am at my desk, any leaning forward and the chair tries to push away from the desk, which for me is very annoying.
I was getting ready to order the Haworth Fern, but now that I know you're getting one soon I feel like I should wait for your review. Hope it comes up very soon!
It might be a while :( they said they’re tryna setup their affiliate program for folks like me and waiting on new color wares. Still no eta
@@Ahnestly thank you for your reply!
my problem with these chairs it doesn't go low enough so the pressure get off of the end my thighs. also couldn't find one that feels like sofa
are u going to review the gruppspel chair (ikea) when it's released? I'm really curious about that one :)
I have the utespelare chair and one of my armrest snapped at the front screw and the other armrest is tearing at the same part
I think the cheapest one makes sense if you mount a headrest yourself IMO
what i love about it's design - you're not gonna sweat sitting on that one
Just the review I’m looking for. Was considering the MATCHSPEL since it matches well with my PS5 set-up.. white-blue, but looks like it is not a great buy after all considering there’s a lot of other options at that price range.
what's your opinion on the Markus? that is their most popular chair and a well regarded one too.
I haven’t sat on it but it looks really similar to the jarvfjallet. I’m not a huge fan of ikea chairs after testing out almost all of them…
@@Ahnestly I'm not surprised tbh. I probably wouldn't like these if i sat in 1000$ chairs lol.
Anyway just tried out both today and i think the markus is more comfy overall and i like the back design better. I find it better for people with broad build.
Naw I really try to take the mindset of chairs in a similar price range and then also a common sense approach. Like the huvudspalare, just an awful design with exposed metal where the head is!! The other chairs I tried to think, ok, this, or the staples Hyken? Or other 200 chairs I’ve tested!
@@Ahnestly if only I can find a hyken here. I can only find locally made Turkish knockoffs which are probably much worse lol
@@cybericarus1476 I'm Turkish too and I've used Markus for maybe 6-7 years. To be honest it's one of the best in this price range in Turkey. Those knockoffs you mentioned really suck.
idk in australia it is hard to find any budget chairs that seem alright
:-( all those deadly animals and no good budget chairs? You're living in the wrong country, my friend! Lol jk jk
My friend I’m curious as to how you feel about the Hattefall from ikea. Looks nice for like home office that don’t get long hours of use
Hi! Great review thank you! I’m shorter than you (1.59) and I believe alternative chairs you showed in other videos are not available in my country. The best I can find is IKEA. I’m looking for a chair to study actually. What is the best chair that I could find in IKEA?
I swear by god maybe ikea office chair are worth it better than their gaming chair because the hand rest is too skinny. The ikea spring mattress have sound & i not sure how i damage the spring with fixed together bed frame & it got black bed bugs hiding near the wall & mattress side when i discover the black bed bugs when i bought the 4 wooden legs from ikea to replace the metal legs that is broken and it says warranty 10 years but i quickly disposed it near 7 or 8 years when i see the black bed begs that can move and squash it a lot of blood come out and i immediately got myself a expensive pocket spring dunlopillo latex mattress. But ikea loft Metal bed frame are worth it bought for sgd 199 and sold it at sgd 50 good price.
I like Ikea products a lot, and have bought loads of stuff however I needed to buy an office chair and even with a voucher from ikea covering most of the cost I could not buy any, they are all crap. I'm six foot and they all felt uncomfortable and cheap AF
love the review, but i can`t unsee the crooked watch on the wall=)
Ugh hahaha sorry about that!!
So the first thing I'm doing with any of these chairs is replacing those stupid casters with normal ones, got it lol
Basically, don't buy any of them. The first one sucks, the saecond one is not for tall people, the last 2 are expensive.
The most important question is .. what are doing with all your chairs?
LOL. My wife wants to burn them. Ahnestly, they go in any nook and cranny available!!
Thank you, this video is very useful, also the comments!
U earned yourself a new subscriber. I literally LOL at some parts which i thought it was pure pun. In the end it's just nice fancy pants names with no substance for the chairs.
Lol thanks!
What are you’re thoughts on the leather quality on the Jarvfjallet? I just purchased the same one the other day.
It's OK. It's a cheap chair and it bends a lot, so I'm guessing it might crack in 3-5 years
Ikea, please make a game table, frame from UTESPELARE and table top like FREDDE, it will be a hit of sales! FREDDE has a very comfortable tabletop with a cutout for the human body, but everything else is just very cumbersome, a lot of unnecessary details! Please do ...
PS: I had to buy UTESPELARE because it is more practical and convenient, but FREDDE worktop is the best!
Do you plan a review on the new Ikea GRUPPSPEL chair?
Thank you for the video.
Make sure to subscribe and come back tomorrow at 11AM EST :-)
Hi is it possible to make a video for shorther people, the best chaire in your opinion. I 'm 5"3 and cant find something convinient. Some have no lambar support or either nor armrest adjustement.
My pick would be the staples hyken but the real problem is, I don’t have a lot of friends at that height and the girls who I know are don’t really love the idea of being on camera!
Do you think I should buy MATCHSPEL or MARKUS?
I haven't tried the Markus, but I hear people really like the Markus!
I got my embody yesterday and it has been nothing but painful. I can sit on it fine for about 30 mins before getting bad lower back pain. Thinking about selling it and going with something else. any thoughts?
Hey! So just like mattresses, chairs have an adjustment period. Also, why sell? Why not return? I’d say use it for the maximum window allowed for return and if you’re still not good, then return it!
Hi, thanks for doing this review. These new "gaming chairs" just dropped so I was happy to see someone already did a review on them. Definitely liking this video. One question though that isn't related to the subject matter of this video, you mentioned that you have an IKEA couch that you really like. May I ask which one it is?
We love the Kivik and the Finnala! The finnala is more modern IMHO but make sure you fluff the backrests!!
My jarfjallet is much different than yours. Static armwrests, no wiggle, adjustable lumbar support. The seat moves way more than an inch and I can't think of anything else.
Wanting to replace the wheels on my utespelare chair, but the stems seem smaller than the standard universal size. Do you know the size of them? Wanting to get nice rubber caster wheels but the ones I ordered the stem is thicker/bigger and don’t fit inside the chair. Help!
Was eyeing the HUVUDSPELARE, good thing I looked at the review. I'm 6ft 8 and it would probs do some damage to my neck or back
When I tried the Utespelare at the store, it bugged me that I couldn't lock it in any position except upright
I did like the aggressive lumbar curve. I'm 5'11
Nice!!
i am 5'10", 175lbs. Just got the matchspel for 4 wks. Onsale for £100. I find it comfy and easy to use. I do wish the seat pad is a tad thicker
I’m glad you like it’ I really couldn’t stand it :(
Me too £100. I've had a 10 year old Markus. The seat is firmer and the back feels different, it forces you to sit up straight more than the Markus does.
hahaah ohgod, when you said swedish and german are similar, no they're not! It did feel like as the review went on, you did pronounce it better and better, but maybe I just got used to it. but you did pronounce järvfjället really well !! thanks for the review.
hahahaha oh man...you're going to be in for a surprise for the video that releases tomorrow...apologies in advance!!!
@@Ahnestly oooh exciting!! 👀
Can you give me any recommendation for a chair that’s better in the same price range? I live in Australia and unfortunately, my options are a bit limited in range.
I’m not 100% what’s available in Australia and what’s not. Have you checked my other video and looked at options there?
Thank you for doing this video. I think I'm still going for a Secretlab then. Great videooo👏✨
If you decide to pick it up, check out my sizing guides and please consider using my links! Helps the channel a LOT!
@@Ahnestly Yay! I will check it out! Thank you!
Hi, Indonesian here, at this point i've been using the Jarvfjallet for a year now. I'm 6'1 and 205.something lbs. Straight of the bat, the arms on my chair is static a.k.a cannot be adjusted (in your vid it shows it can go up and down) and I HATE it! It has this weird relationship with my desk, it's like if I set my arms' chair levels with the top of my desk, it bumps with my desk so I kinda like need to stretch my arms further to type and if lower my chair so it can slide under my desk, the way I type is awkward like I have to raise my hands a bit and pushing my shoulder upward, in a long run (i sit 10-12+ hoursI my laptop is my life, i play games, watch movies, work, etc.) it gives me a headache. Well, i can go wider (spread my arms open), but then my hand will tilt inward when approaching my keyboard (I use normal size keyboard, not TKL) and the palms like bent outward, it's weird okay. Let's see where was i, oh yeah, lets go to the lumbar support. Man, this thing is aggressive as F. What happen to me now; i rest my lower back on that lumbar support and the rest (upper back) just bent forward, what I'm trying to say is, it doesn't motivates you to seat upward (as supposed to). So, i don't know if you going to believe me on onis, it gives pressure to my kidneys, well that's extreme and I happen to be someone who somewhat believes in acupuncture points, i mean bloodflow to kidneys area somewhat impeded. Moreover, when you tilt back to chill, guess what, that F-ing lumbar support really digging into your back, not the kind of chill imaginable. Hold on, I'm not done here. Seat height. I never get my seat height perfectly, if i sit with my knee 90 degrees, it put pressure on my tailbone (oh yeah the cushion also a problem) and if i raised it just a little bit, it put pressure where my back thigh met with the seat frame, you know, behind the knee. What? just buy new padding for the seat you say? Here's the thing, the seat is big I give you that, you can sit cross-legged no problem, now, I couldn't find big enough padding for the entire seat (maybe I need to put some effort into it). Anyway, if you put smaller padding on top of the seat, what happens, you'll get extra pressure on your back thigh; one when the padding ends, and when the cushion ends. Oh man, I can go on and on... What I'm trying to share with you and probably your followers, if you really, really want an ikea chair, seat on it for at lest 30 mins and drag that chair around to several table (dining table, work table, whatever table ikea has in that area) before you make decision. I bought this chair for around 200+ USD, and it's a lot, to put you on perspective, 200USD can feed a family of four for 2-3 weeks around here, well maybe i exaggerating a bit there... a bit, not much heck i pay my maid that amount of money monthly. So yeah, if you confused what chair to buy and HM/SC is not even in your financial radar and if you think Ikea is the safest bet, well, it's not. Talk (persuasion or manipulation what have you) to your partner or your family about getting, at least, SecretLab's. Sorry for the long rant, i re-read my comment and i thought i can make it shorter, but hell, let the world know... Let it burn.
Ah rite, i'm not getting paid by SecretLab, I think at this point any chair reviewed in this channel is better than what I currently have. Look, my Jarfjallet is my long-researched-my-first-endeavor to so-called ergonomic chair north to 100USD and it was my "oh I'm going to use this chair for a long time since it's so good and I could afford it barely without selling my kid". I understand, to be fair, when Ikea make a product, it is intended for the world with all those varieties, some might like it, some might love it, while some might not work at all, I get it, they want to cater as wide as the market they can grab.