Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Lectric XP E-Bike - Ideal Two EV Solution?
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So you’re considering an electric car? Compared to a gas powered car, an EV will be better for your wallet and the environment over the long haul. But you know what’s vastly more efficient than an electric car? An electric bike. Should your next EV actually be a bike? Is an electric car / electric bike combo the cheat code to eco-friendly urban transportation? Today let’s talk about it.
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Table of Contents:
0:00 - Pros/Cons of Electric Cars!
2:45 - Electric Bikes!
4:21 - Cars Are Geometrically Inefficient
5:03 - Tides Are Changing?
6:31 - Hidden Reasons We Buy Cars
8:03 - The Ideal Two Vehicle Solution?
10:17 - The Best of Both Worlds
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Hyundai loaned me the Ioniq 5 for a week, and Lectric provided me with the XP 3.0 to film with. This is not a sponsored video-they just happened to be the the two electric vehicles I had available to me this week.
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What do you think? Are you a fan of both electric cars and electric bikes?
I'm still on the PHEV bandwagon until battery tech gets better. My Chevy Volt is perfect. 50 miles electric with a little 17 kWh battery, and an efficient gas motor for long trips. I have been tracking it and with my usual long work drives to see customers a few times a month where I actually burn gas, I get about 100 mpg. Not MPGe, just 100 mpg when I consider all the miles I cover between fueling. If it weren't for the occasional long drive for work, I would never use gas at all. I used exactly 0 gallons while on paternity leave and all my daily tasks were
It would be great if Honda bundled the new Prologue EV with their new Electric Motocompacto.
@@HoffmansHooptiesPHEVs take some research/thinking to pick. Most get significantly lower milage than an ICE when using their engine, and some can only do slow speeds on battery. They should be a good solution for lots of folks in the US though.
I should search around and see if there is a channel which breaks down the models available and what sort of use cases they are best for. The manufacturer's marketing materials aren't so useful.
My brother-in-law in Korea wants to get a new car, and the Ioniq 5 is pretty much a perfect fit... But he doesn't want one because they are used as taxis there 🤦♂️
Anyways... Ebikes (or even just bikes in lots of places) are great. There's a bit of chicken and egg problem with the infrastructure though. Use one if/when you can, and over time we'll get to a point where there are more good opportunities to use one.
PS: It might be cool to do a video about renting vehicles. You don't need to actually own the right tool for the all those very occasional jobs ;)
I must say, I love the direction of your latest videos. As someone who really love cars but has been getting into e-bikes and alternative modes of transportation the channel really hits home for me. Sure, I live in Sweden, in the 6th most bike friendly place on the planet... It was only natural to get rid of my car and instead rent one whenever I need it. But I understand that's near impossible to a lot of Americans. But I hope, I really hope you can continue to spread this positive outlook on alternative modes of transportation, as a car enthusiast. Hopefully people start to demand safe bike infrastructure from their city. Because it truly gives people a lot of choice and freedom. If I look here in Malmö, Sweden I see children, teenagers, people with various handicaps, businessmen, elderly; Just normal people from all walks of life, riding bikes and e-bikes instead of cars. Without that infrastructure a lot of these people, especially kids, teenagers, elderly and handicapped, would all be robbed their freedom to move freely. In a car dependent place they lose their independence, and become dependent on people around them with cars.
I don't know about you, but I started following this channel because of the rad cars content... I can tolerate two or three videos about this kind of stuff, but i hope the fleet comes back in the near future...
Go Sweden! However, big car will never let us go. They require ever more people to buy cars.
So glad I found your channel. As a long time car enthusiast and recent urbanist, your content is exactly what I have been looking for. Please keep up the great work
I like this update not for the EV but the reasons to consider an e-bike. I’ve been researching cargo e-bikes and I’m stuck in between the Specialized Haul ST or the Velotric Packer.
I have the Velotric Packer. Great bike. It’s well made and very quiet. The main downside is the range. Some cargo bikes have better range but they typically cost more.
Support your LBS!
Specialized is a real company with a real dealer network. Go specialized
Nice! I have a Radwagon 4 and it's been so incredibly useful. It's certainly not the best bike, and some of the components are trash (brakes) but I haven't used my car for groceries in months. The Specialized looks really nice. Eventually I'd like a Tern if I save up a few pennies.
I'm glad that a fellow car enthusiast is saying the same thing about e-bikes as a great transportation alternative. You could even cover how other enthusiasts might find them to be excellent additions to their garages although really, I feel like we have our work cut out for us. You know as well as I do that proper gearheads LOVE mod culture and will take any chance they get to upgrade whatever they can on their cars. Similarly, I encourage you to look into e-mobility brands like Super73, Zooz, OneWheel, and Onyx because they have their own respective aftermarkets backing them up, covering everything from simple cosmetics to complete drivetrain overhauls. You'll be surprised how in-depth the mods go for these bikes, and it might even convince you to try it yourself.
Word of advice though: unless you have the patience and resources to get a Sur-Ron/Talaria street legal, don't go down that route. Stick to anything with pedals.
I'm loving the out-of-the-box ideas for thoughtful transportation on your channel lately. Great video!
Thanks, appreciate it!! Thanks for watching! :) :)
My ideal two part solution when I lived in Germany was the Deutschlandticket (unlimited travel on any local or regional public transport for about 70USD) and a bike to get to train stations. My partner and I traveled from Munich to Berlin trainhopping on regional trains and saw some cool tiny towns along the way. When you're in cities you can use the busses, trams, trains, subway or whatever on the same pass. Best value for money i have ever got
Every morning and evening, thousands of 5,000 lb mobile living rooms commute past my home--one person per living room, often stuck in vexatious traffic. And that's in "urban" San Francisco. Imagine dragging 5,000 lbs around with you just to sit in a cubicle for eight hours. A team of the brightest engineers couldn't create a more wasteful way to get to work and back home. Thanks for another great video.
I appreciate you talking more about infrastructure and diversifying from cars
Love this idea for a great urbanist and car enthusiast solution. I currently own 2 cars and 3 bikes and each of them have complementary uses. Miata for weekend, IS300 for daily, city bike for commuting, folding bike for packing on trips or lending out to others, mountain bike for recreation.
As I recently began commuting by bike and train, I’ve found that the daily car is really not that necessary. I have been thinking of replacing the practical Lexus with another car but without the commute use case, I keep thinking of other impractical sports cars I could buy. Maybe a Corvette, or another Miata…I have a problem.
great job explaining the environmental impact of EVs vs fossil fuel powered cars and all the infrastructure :)
it seems like it's often forgotten that oil needs to be extracted and refined...
Car-free for 18 months and loving it. With what I call "active lifestyle math" (where your exercise time is subtracted from your active travel time -- as you say, using transportation as exercise) my standard of living has gone UP while my costs have gone DOWN. I'm really kicking myself that I didn't do this sooner. I would have saved money and been in better shape.
I love that you started uploading in 4k. Definetely much needed upgrade that matches and compliments your production quality. I used to love your content but video sharoness was always subpar and was itching for you to make this change. Couldn’t be happier, keep up your amazing work!
Get a cargo bike like a tern gsd or urban arrowr or load 75. Add that with a plug in hybrid minivan. We fill up on gas every 6 weeks. Can do 30 miles in the van on electric. Almost all errands by use are done on ebike or a cargo ebike. Cargo bikes can easily hold a weeks worth of groceries, hell even Costco runs can be done. Make sure ebike battery is ul rated. Hint letric is not so be careful when charging. Don't forget electric cars don't solve tire sound pollution we all forget how loud tires are at speed.
I unfortunately don’t own an electric car yet but I do own an electric cargo bike and I’m happy to say I put more miles on it weekly than I do my car. When it comes to getting around the city and other urban areas I choose the bike 8 times out of 10 for efficiency and time saving reasons. Keep up the great content!!
I have lived with and without a car in both Boston and LA, and I really do think that ebikes can help people actually enjoy driving more by removing some of the trips that make driving a tedious drudgery. I mean, you get to do a lot of daily errands in a lightweight, open-air, manually shifted vehicle while not having to buy gas just to buy groceries or get to work. Then you can buy a fun car for the road trips or twisties practically guilt-free. I dunno, I know it's not gonna convince everyone but I do think the word is getting out that we don't have to always buy the most maximally practical vehicle at the expense of driving enjoyment.
Also for what it's worth, I think EVs can be genuinely enjoyable on their own merits, beyond the launches. I had an Ioniq 5 for a few months as a long-term rental and yeah, it's no Miata but hearing my watch tick at 80mph was something I've never experienced before, and you really do hear everything the tires are doing.
Car enthusiast myself but rather see public transit and multimodal transportation systems exists too
Here's an aspect you didn't mention. If there's a free charger 1-2 miles from your home, drop off the car, ride home on bike, and pick it up when it's done! I do this with my non electric bike but it helps if it fits easily in the trunk.
2:25 "EVs don't do anything for traffic and congestion"
My view is similar. It's like e-cigarettes. Sure, it may be healthier but you are still addicted to the substance! It's also probably worse for right-to-repair compared to gas powered ones.
That my garage right there! An EV and my e-bike and a couple acoustic bikes. The biggest problem I've experienced w DC charging infrastructure is the space that people who got free charging with their car take up. They should be charging at home overnight but instead they waste time, degrade their battery and take up space at the DC charger. They're for trips not for normal use!
They are still in the gas car mindset
If it's empty go fill it up
Instead of if at home just plug it in
Works with phones too
Also doesn't need to be such high current if it goes all night
@@NorroTaku Exactly. Way better for grid stability
As far as ebikes go, storage becomes far more important than when dealing with acoustics. The three top tips for avoiding bike theft are: 1) don't buy a bike you can't afford to lose, 2) buy a lock that costs a large percentage of what your bike costs (and that cost is purely for cut, pick, shim and bypass resistance and not Bluetooth or fingerprint readers), and 3) park your bike near the bike of someone who didn't do 1&2. Ebikes can't do #1 unless you are rich, have a very hard time with #3 and without dedicated infrastructure #2 basically means buying a motorcycle lock and possibly modifying your bicycle to work with it
Special infrastructure means bike lockers fixed to concrete both at destinations but also at home at ground level.
But in the issue of infrastructure: not bicycle infrastructure, but wheelchair infrastructure with larger turn radii so bicycles can use it.
i started commuting to work by ebike last year and it made me happier to be at work and feel much more awake. luckily i had a very safe separated route from cars
i just recently got an xp 3.0 as I wanted to be less car dependent as it was tearing into my mental health.
It was truly worth every single penny and more.
Even better
TRAIN
ev bike to the train station is the goat
this
absolutely. Then you can use a bike share for the ol' last mile problem if you have to
Similar setup, but I keep an electric kickscooter in the trunk of my EV. Comes in handy on occasion to have one vehicle inside my other vehicle, esp. downtime while the big one is charging.
Another well documented video! Great work! I will go electric eventually, I’ve always been a muscle car fan, but understand I will more than likely need to purchase an electric vehicle in the coming years. That said I’ve been rather fixated on the GR Corollas, I think they’re awesome, and while it’s not electric, it is progress as I’d be driving a car with five less cylinders than I’m used to
My favorite Caroll Shelby quote:
ua-cam.com/video/rqQ6LGpiGY4/v-deo.htmlsi=AGEhlXx_15l569of&t=424
The ultimate petrol head found electric cars and alternative fuels an exciting development.
I had ebike once, no more because the apartment didn't want them to be stored indoors. But definitely will look for a new one when I move.
I also rented Ioniq5 one time; it's an EV car with all the basic qualities without much gimmicks. But it's actually bigger than one would imagine; wider wheelbase despite looking like a CUV. Didn't quite fit in some public parking so it was inevitably stepping on the line.
Gotta admit, didn't care much about your previous format but the new direction is awesome. Keep it up!
PS: had to make a decision a while ago between a car (electric), motorcycle and e-bike. Chose the latter with some weather-sealed clothing and I'm super happy and am saving tons of money. Though this is way easier to pull off in Europe than in North America.
I love the the idea of an E Bike, but drivers in Richmond, CA are legitimately unhinged. If I could afford to buy in Berkeley it would be fantastic.
Regardless, another great video. 👏
Our government and industry has created this problem, hand in hand. I have a 2011 car, which I paid cash for 9 years ago. It has a whopping 34K on it. I bike or walk anytime possible
There's only one thing that can make it better. Cargo bike and a full protected bike lane network. In fact, I'd be content with just a protected bike lane network.
"We don't need more driverless cars, we need more car-less drivers."
The electric bike sure, but in the US we still don't have many ***reliable*** and reasonably priced low-cost EVs. Sadly, in the low-cost car market the only options for reliable cars are gasoline powered. That may change in a year or two, with several announced vehicles... but we are not there yet.
Maybe if the BYD Seagull (not what I'd call reliable but dirt cheap) comes to the US, the Aptera starts producing and in sufficient volume, the Nimbus One starts delivering, and the Chevy Bolt 2024 comes out with its flaws fixed and because of a more modern battery it turns out to be cheaper. Then yes... that combination would work great.
As a matter of fact, electric recumbent bikes and trikes (with a good size basket for groceries) would be ideal for both exercise and short range driving.
Amusingly enough... what you suggest is not far with what I concluded for my wife and me after a year of researching. Given the uncertainties regarding gasoline prices and EVs for the next 5-10 years I concluded that at this time I should buy low cost. After much struggling I concluded:
- Nissan Versa (or Bolt EV if they release the 2024 model by the time I must buy and is cheap enough) as my main car although I would have preferred an Aptera but there is no way I'd get one in time for my needs.
- Probably a Nimbus One with A/C when it comes out as a second "car" (really the main one for city driving except for runs to Costco), renting it for the first year and if still satisfied buying it after. Why this and not just the bikes? Florida. = A/C is a must, a bike would not cut it. But I will almost certainly not bother if the Bolt option works out and would instead go for the e- route for my bike.
- A traditional e-trike with a large rear basket for my wife (or me when going for a quick run to the store). She'd also use it for exercise.
- A recumbent 2-wheel bike or maybe recumbent trike, either one unpowered although the option to add power later might be there for when I get older, as it would be mine purely for exercise.
BTW, the new Sodium-ion battteries are cheaper, more efficient and well... most of what you need is salt and power to make them.
The ideal two vehicle solution is a train ticket and a bus ticket. . .
yeah but they don’t have those in america
Sometimes there’s a bus twice a week taking you to a once every 10 days train.
@@BoBandits Oh, you mean it's under funded and under utilized? Color me surprised. Oh wait, that's the joke. . . Thanks for making it not funny anymore.
Ideally the train, bus, and bikeshare get common payment and transfers
Another cool option is that some cities have bike racks on the front of their buses or allow bikes on the subway.
Some bus services allow small folding bikes as hand luggage.
I have a Tesla Model 3 and a few bikes, so I'm already there for the most part. I've been thinking about getting one of those cargo e-bikes but concerned about storage. Normally I can get my bikes mostly flat against a wall so they don't take up much space, but I don't think a cargo bike would offer the same luxury unless I could fold the cargo part or something.
This is one of the best videos of this I've ever seen, you really covered absolutely everything here!
This two-EV solution could work for many moderately bikeable and transit-friendly suburban areas such as you have in Southern California. Even if it happens with societal and political will, it will be decades before many of our cities will be fully car-optionable. In the meantime and for some families/households, having more one-car families that also use transit, ebikes, bikes, and walking to get around when possible would save your average middle-class American families significant amounts of money in their budgets, cut down on urban auto congestion, and obviously be better for the environment. I could see many typical two-car families that drive sensible cars (say they have a Toyota Camry and a Honda CRV or similar types of newer, moderately priced, practical vehicles), selling two cars, rolling those proceeds into a slightly more expensive EV, and buying one or two Ebikes (or even just regular bikes). Also, if the electric car is just not in your budget for your household, you could consider selling your second car, keeping one of your existing ICE cars for Costco runs, road trips, and certain destinations, and saving CO2 and money by taking transit, biking, and walking as much as possible. Those of us advocating for less car-dependency on both a societal level and personal level are not asking for perfection and a complete 180, but just some effort on the part of everyone in getting creative and all of us reshaping our lives in the ways we can to both improve our individual quality of life and solve environmental/societal problems that our current transportation and land use paradigm has created.
I was watching thinking yeah this does sound like the dream then I remembered it's what I already have. Kona EV, Electric Cargo bike and a bunch of other bikes just in case.
I definitely have my eye on electric bikes. I have a regular bike but rarely ride it because I'd rather hike/walk for exercise. But an electric bike increases range and also would be fun to take to scenic places to explore. It'll be a few more years before I switch to EV since most of my car trips are in very remote places in the US west. I just want the recharging infrastructure to be more robust. And besides, my Nissan Juke Nismo RS is a fun car to drive and no hurry to trade it in.
Many people might not need the electric car all together, you might be able to rent a car or van by the hour or day as you need it for big stuff.
Thanks Ethan, you have provided more food for thought. 😁
I would love to know how we can push and create
Incentives for people to find other ways of commuting. Following a comment from your last video, my city needs to give bikers a better way to get north to south, and west to south. To get from my neighborhood to one community I work in, I need to cross a large bridge that is also a highway entrance. And there's maybe 2 other options I can take. But all 3 are basically horrible, and I'm a city biker! So those who are scared of biking on the street will probably never want to take the routes I have to take.
I do like living in a position where I can do small trips on bike(or my e-kickscooter), routine trips on local transit, and use my car more for enjoyment and adventures. Depending on the direction of my life, I could see living in a one car household and supplement it with a cargo e-bike instead of a second car.
My current two vehicle solution is an S2000 and an all-road/gravel bike! :D The S is mostly a toy but can be used for those times when I really need a car too, the bike is my real day in day out transportation and occasional toy for weekend gravel rides :D That said I think the EV / e-bike pairing in the video is a very functional combo and would suit a lot of people! I'm excited for more compact EVs though... I wish we were getting the cool new small VW golf EV stateside. Affordable, GTI quick, but an efficient EV!
Great video! The Ioniq5 is probably my favorite electric car at the moment, that color is amazing!
Thanks! I've tested a bunch (videos coming soon) and the Ioniq 5 has been the best hands down
i´m a bicycle mechanic and live in germany. i own a gasoline car and two e-bikes. each vehicle has a different purpose. if i´m on my own i take my e-mtb, i f i have to bring my daughter to her nanny, i take the other e-bike wich has a childseat on it. and if i have to take my wife and daughter with me i use my car. especially if we are going groceries shopping for the week. so i think the clever way is to choose wich vehicle fits your lifestyle or work/life balance^^ btw great video :D
I'm looking at this high quality content and am absoluetly baffled by the little views. Like what?? 2k?
I use both electric car & folding ebike & electric unicycle. This is was a purely cost decision. I live in a rural area and work 30 miles away. The car charging at home is vastly cheaper than gas. The ebike & unicycle gives the convenience to park & ride public transit and still get to good destinations, or to avoid paid parking close to destinations by using further free parking options like residential streets.
well...after watching the whole video, now I want to buy a cargo bike to go grocery shopping!!! so, I can save my 1993 W124 400E ( with 342K miles on it!! just did a 1300 miles trip between VT and FL (Oct 8-9 )
I am already use this pattern, but still with gas powered car and scooter. I mostly ride my scooter for daily activities while the car is used for pick up something that is too large for scooter or family/friends transport to location outside the metropolitan (20 km radius from city center)
Also collab with NotJust Bikes.!
I so badly want to bike everywhere within a few miles of home, but LA is so insanely dangerous for bikes its not even funny...
I bike in LA and yes 100% agree it suuuuucks so hard. But driving here also sucks, so I still take the bike when I can
@@HelloRoad Yup, I just moved here recently and its just so hard to get anywhere by car or bike. Motorcycle seems to be the best right now.
I read somewhere that an electric bike is actually more efficient than a normal bike, since the human body is less efficient than an electric motor
In my case, my truck only does truck things which is why it has under 50K miles for 2015. If not towing or hauling, it sits. I commute on my motorcycles, most of which are inexpensive to operate including fuel economy. I even shop on my sidecar rig...but that is the inefficient motorcycle so does not help my arguements.
I do have 1-5 hooptie cars around at all times but I do need one for taking 300#'s of dogs to the groomers or those few days a year the roads are not fit for two or even three wheels. Besides, most of them will end up race cars or racecar parts at some point. I also still love older vehicles with personality and in the grand scheme of things, they paid back their initial "carbon footprint" for production a decade ago so as little as they get driven, they are better for the environment than me buying a new car.
The perfect pair is good infrastructure and legs/bike, no need for car
EV scooter or bike + van/truck would be better imo, if your not driving the car around much some extra space at the expense of a little more energy use is worth it
EVs, hybrids and plug-in hybrids are all more efficient than ICE, which is most green though depends on what you're doing and your local power grid.
But what is clearly superior in every way anywhere traffic volume are large enough to justify the additional infrastructure cost is overhead electrification.
oh one thing you forgot to mention, is electric cars are much heavier than gas cars, so they cause more tire ware pollution which is the #1 source of microplastics in our environment
rlly good video though glad i subscribed
It is a tragedy that the Ioniq 5 is only available as an EV with no Manual transmission offered. If it were I would buy one a year because I love its' esthetic and stance...
A car spends most of its time in your own driveway or garage.
This is true. Most cars spend something like 96% of their time parked!
Great video! I personally have my reservations about EVs and have driven some before. To me, they feel like what driving a washing machine would feel like. And battery EVs are so fundamentally flawed, I wouldn’t get one even if I could afford one. Having said that, I would probably buy a Hydrogen powered EV as it would be a better alternative for the future of the car. James May said it best during his review of the first gen Honda FCX Clarity: “It’s the car of tomorrow because it fits into our lives today.” I probably would buy a hydrogen EV if I had money for one and the infrastructure was more widespread.
I would argue an electric car isn't even optimal if you commute com a electric bike/motorcycle. I think the effort would be better spend in making actual combustion cars lighter.
Alternatively, an e-skateboard...
The lack of effective brakes would be an issue for me haha
eww SUV style EV. Give me back the Spark please. These are too big..
I personally have a regular bike for local transportation, electric for going next town over and haul stuff, and a giant honker of a Leaf (It's way too big but they don't make Small EVs anymore)
Yeah unfortunately this is where all US EVs are headed. 😫 Leaf is a reasonable size, but getting discontinued. GM says they are making a next gen Bolt, but I'm not holding my breath!
@@HelloRoad I'm hoping we at least get the GTI (GTE?) version of the upcoming VW ID.2, but definitely not holding my breath for that either 😥 There are so many enticing smaller EV offerings in Europe and China that I highly doubt we will ever see here...
I definitely agree with you on SUVs, but the Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 feels much, much more like a (very large) hatchback or station wagon than an SUV.
I only have money for the bike!!! lol
lol. Not expensive? Better for my wallet? My brother in automotive love- a new EV will finance for WELL over $600 a month. Most Americans are only paying half that for their car note. Doesn’t matter if “gas” is cheaper, that kind of money is massive for most people outside of California. Not to mention higher insurance and the range anxiety that is totally novel for EV drivers.
I’m on your side, I’d love an EV and they’re enjoyable to drive. But- To suggest that it’s anything close to affordable is just silly. New Corolla is 15-20k cheaper and more versatile, all the points you mentioned in the video.
And for those of us that have a truck? Zero chance! EV trucks can’t tow for shit (range-wise), by and large. And a EV truck prices are is staggering, even when compared to a diesel TV.
Totally agree EVs are not for everyone, *especially* for towing. But just so you're aware, as of last month, average new car payment in the US is $770/mo! Average used car payment is $592/mo. You can get an EV for less than the average new car price in the US, which is currently $48k. A Chevy Bolt can be had for ~$27k, which is cheap by today's new car standards. Cheaper purchase price than a Corolla XSE
My suggestion and what is practical for many households is to just keep their existing ICE car if it's reasonably efficient and reliable, and get an Ebike or bike to supplement it. Using the car less, for whatever trips you are able to, would go much further to cut down on the negative externalities of personal cars, as well as put more money into your pocket through fuel and auto-maintenance savings than buying a new EV (or multiple new EVs) and driving everywhere. Also, when considering the purchase of a new car, even if it's more money upfront, more people should consider that the EV cost of ownership might actually end up the same or more affordable once the fuel savings are taken into account. This is especially true if you end up putting a lot of miles on your vehicle(s) every year.
Public transit and e-bike/bike. Electric cars are a nightmare for road maintenance and firefighting. Minimize that by using bike ev's and consolidating bigger ones to trains and batt-extendesd trolleybusses and rented cars/vans/trucks
Only reason I would have a fully electric vehicle is if I lived in the city and the vehicle was made to last and be rebuilt which no ev is. I own a 2009 toyota prius and a 1995 f250 diesel swap prius is for in city and long trips the f250 is for my job im a welder I built it for fuel economy which is 25mpg on highway 19-21 in city it also runs on veggie oil.
I've seen electric vehicles with half a million miles when run as taxis, they can definitely last the test of time. Even my own 10-year-old electric car is holding up amazingly and drives like brand-new.
I hate to tell you, Ethan, but that solution is only good for a place like California... When you have more than 150 rainy days every year, the electric bike isn't a good option, and if you add snowy days then...
I live in Northern Pennsylvania where it's cold and rainy and even snowy quite often. I get around by bike year-round. It's just about getting the right gear.
L +buy a jacket and gloves +wear a hat +skill issue +get good lol
@@MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuyYou're not converting anyone with that tone :p
@@swecreations I know, I’m joking. Honestly, I don’t seriously think an UA-cam comment argument is gonna result in “Oh, no, when you put it like that, I think I will sell my car!! Wow, ya got me!!”
There are plenty of real examples of people using bikes places where it’s not perfect weather (It snows 20-30 days a year in the Netherlands, and they’re known the world over for their cycling infrastructure and popularity for commuters), but I’m really not convinced that I can change people’s minds here.
@@MaxJ.ProfessionalLilGuy I live in Umeå in northern Sweden and a large portion of the population cycle here year round, so I definitely get that, and I know you were just joking, but my point stands nonetheless.
I'd kill for hyundai to make an Ioniq stylized e-bike, kinda like how bugatti made a bugatti styled scooter.
Oooh shit that would be raddddd!!!
Honda Motocompo electric maybe is a bit closer?
Forget them both. You really want to make a difference? Buy and use a pedal-powered bicycle.
As someone who walks and bikes everywhere... ow my legs. My range is kneecapped by living in a very hilly area with just a pedal bike. I'd appreciate a boost...
I think your points for the electric bike are valid. I think a gas powered motorcycle can fill that niche as well (I’m an avid bike 🏍️ enjoyer) except exercise.
But I moved to the Midwest for work recently. There’s so many thousands of towns out here where basically all of us commute. Even if it’s only 13 minutes by car, that’s at 55 mph down the State Route. Even a Honda Navi is unsuitable for commuting. Especially in the winter.
I see you are Californian so you may not know, this type of bitter cold is not just “wear a coat and gloves.” It’s 0 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter in Ohio frequently, anything but your metal cage with a heater is literally unsafe to one’s life. Basically 15-25 states in the US have this type of frigid cold (depending on how tough you are), whether they’re a dense city or rural farms or suburbs. Almost half the country, I’d wager.
I appreciate the message but your “Californian” really is showing in this video 😂 I say that not to be mean or nasty but EV’s and e-bikes are really far away from being mainstream even in 2023.
Using a thermal shirt & pants coupled with a softshell jacket or windbreaker is enough to stay warm. Your body will naturally heat up as you ride, and your clothes will insulate you. You dont want to go hard on clothing because you will just overheat. Motorcycles dont involve exercise, so staying warm with them is a lot harder.
I live in Northern Pennsylvania and get around on my bike year round. It really is about the gear you have.
Motorbikes are often extremely loud though, mostly because the NA motorbike market is biased towards showing that off
An electric bike is the only option when you live in a condo.
These electric cars that are being built are shit and not good for the environment my shop parts out cars ive seen these ev designs there not made to last or be rebuilt which is what really helps.
Wrong wrong wrong You're so wrong about everything you said but I like your videos
I'm curious, what are your thoughts? Why is he wrong?
I mean I get that some might disagree with the premise. But what did you think is factually incorrect?
Ugh. Really ?
Milquetoast namby pamby vids from weak thighed pansies get car brained pushback. ? ! ? 😳
My other bike is a bike, I haul my groceries in my initial issue duffle from the 90s. And if you need an electric assist, you're not only soft, you're bad with money.
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Seriously though, the solution is infrastructure that deprioritizes cars and takes the vehicular homicide out of our transit networks. And if the heavy handed marketing of ebikes can get more folks to realize that, then it's a good thing.