electric is obviously the way of the future. and with gas prices headed to the moon just in time to encourage the transition 😏 in 10 years everything will be electric and gas will be 1 dollar again
Electric mopeds look great but these looks as well as specifications come at a price. Let's look at the representatives of this segment that have the lowest prices. Are they worth the price? Share your thoughts below!
Great video. Nice to know the specs of many different companies and models. I've been researching moped style e-bikes, but settled on a regular style e-bike. And, believe it or not, the one and only reason I didn't get a moped style, is because of the height of these. I am 6'1" and I have yet to see a company that makes one for the average taller people. I know that juiced bikes has the seat height adjustment, but it doesn't seem to be significant. When we pedal, the knees should be able to extend almost to straight out. Just a little frustrating that these companies didn't or don't consider this. 😑
Absolutely. It's ridiculous, like selling bicycles with saddles that barely move up and down, not to mention the distance between the seat and handlebars which also makes a big difference
I have the same problm, at 6'3 its hard to find an ebike that fits me. I ended up building my own with a BBSHD kit, An extra large Diamondback Overdrive frame, a custom controller, and a 72v battery. It cruses at 45mph like a motorcycle, and is super easy to maintain. Over 3 years of commuting daily I've only had to do regular matinence, other than replacing the hall sensors once but that was my fault. Between electricitiy, tires, brake pads, and chain replacements, I spend less than $400 a year to go to and from work.
these are not for pedaling, the pedels are ONLY ON THEM to skirt the law, and not have to register and insured them plus a drivers license... it is NOT a petal bike,its a basically a 70s style moped, people didn't petal those either (to heavy) petal added then to skirt the law too 1960s-'80s
I love my scorpion. And I have two rad power bikes. But the scorpion is a wonderful moped crossover. With 30 miles an hour top speed and a really comfortable seat. I’ve had it a couple years and really enjoy. I also really like my rad power bikes very much too. But they are very much like a Bicycle, and the scorpion is a moped.
I pre-ordered a sondors madmod back in October of last year. I will be receiving it this week. It was introduced at $1499 with an option of 300 down payment and a 5 installment payment plan. I'll update once I get it cheers!😁
@@herb0321 that's awesome dude, I do have a driving licence but just can't afford to drive at the moment, i don't mind riding a bicycle (in the summer and the spring) I live in the UK, but I don't really like riding a bike in the winter, (you're buggered if you forget your gloves, hehe) really want an electric bike, didn't realise you could do a payment plan and pay in bit, really happy for you,, I would get an electric scooter as they are cheap as chips, but in the UK, they're illegal, now I'm not angel, when it come the law, who is,? Some laws are ridiculous, (I'm Aspergic (a form of autism) so way to honest as you can tell), electric scootera are legal in so many places all over the world, not the UK though, its so stupid, it's good for the earth, clean energy,, if you get caught on one, and I always eventually get caught, but if you do you can get up to a 2k fine, they take it off you, you won't get it back and you get 6 points on your licence, whether you have one or not, so yeah, sorry for the long msg, I mainly wanted to say that's gr8 dude, hope you're loving riding around, stay safe in these troubled,
I just got a Michael Blast Outsider 750w with only 19 miles on it for $800 US from a Pawn shop that didn’t know what they had or how to operate past turn on They couldn’t get it to charge but I saw when looking at it, there was a plug disconnected up in the tank area(lead from charge port to battery) Got home plugged in and now works perfect Lol Point being keep your eye open for listing of used bikes and might stumble across something similar Good luck if you haven’t found anything yet
Rare to find these kind of channels that gives details and executes it well unlike others.. definitely deserves more subs.. I like your vids, I first watched the top E cars. the video edit itself is pretty nice to watch too.
Yep i think i will subscribe and share its hard to keep up with the names on the first try, but i like and i just got the rad runner utility, 🏃♂️ its awesome as is no mods needed but this seem like a good business idea
@@Datacube I recommend pedal electric AWD3 Or Ariel Rider Grizzly bike . They both are much better quality and more power with double batteries and better bang for the bucks hahahahaha lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳!!!
Any suggestions? I need 3 bikes for our family. I have two already, a EUY S4 26ah, and Ridstar 21ah. What should be a third? The EUY was $1450 delivered and Ridstar $1,050. Any suggestions for my third bike? Needs to have same capabilities as other two, and is more for playing around on slightly hilly gravel roads and our level fields. Thanks!
In the US, you can go to car auctions and purchase say a 2010 Hyunday Sonata for usd 500 - $1000. How is it that the 'low cost' mopeds can cost twice and even 4 times as much? Either the cars are being auctioned off too cheap or the electric vehicles are too expensive... Also, except Germany, northen Europe or the US, the rest of the world, a usd $2000 machine is Not low cost.
The price of materials doesn't magically come down because you want it to. Good ebikes start at ~$1300, and that price bracket still comes with concessions.
@@daniluchison then by your logic this channel is geared towards US standard’s so I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make? The technology is constantly evolving in term’s of manufacturing. Once the demand and supply catch up with each other then prices will go down due to competition
I don't know who these are affordable for. The first one I could buy, but it wouldn't be legal to ride here, no pedals. Unless you have the cash to put down on the barrel for one of the others, you'll have to finance it. The interest charged on these transactions is the same or more that you'd pay on a credit card, is calculated as soon as the loan is made, and your monthly payments are fixed and *non-negotiable*. The loan interest is immediately added on to the principal, and then divided by the number of months in the life of the loan (say 36 or 48), the result is your monthly payment. A $2000 e-bike put me into bankruptcy 3 years ago, thanks to the financing, and the bike getting stolen and never recovered. The insurance fought me for 2 years, and then only paid a depreciated-value that amounted to 18% of the purchase price, that also contributed to the bankruptcy. Affordable, for the people that actually NEED one of these for transport, would be about twice the cost of a pedal bike. I won't bother looking at purpose-built e-bikes again for a long time. They're still too expensive, and this video proved it, and they are also very risky to own since they are prime targets for theft. Conversion kits are something I'm looking at now, or an electric kick-scooter, there are some actually affordable models of those. They'd still require public transit a lot for longer trips though, so less overall utility. Edit: for the clown below me, @VanGough - do you understand basic economics? You don't seem to understand that the 2k was the LIST price, with the interest added on, it came to $3830, over 36 months. That's $106.38 a month. My income was a net of about $1600/month (it still is since wages haven't risen in years); with fixed expenses, such as RENT ($650/month), food ($200/month) and student loans ($435/month). Also a smoker, though I cut back. That's the life of the working poor. And these fucking bikes are affordable? Everybody and anybody who thinks so, can fuck themselves sideways. Affordable, in this context, means that people can fit a purchase into their budget without having to give up something critical, like food, or utilities. It doesn't mean cheap toys for the fucking wealthy.
You are a case-study as to why student debt relief is so critical and why huge college costs and loan costs are bankrupting the American people. Literally, in your case. If you have a degree you should be taking home at least $2500 per month. Even without a degree, a $15 minimum wage would net you about $2000 per month. If America were a sensible nation, we would have a Post Office Bank to make vehicle loans at about 5% per year. The interest on your bike for 3 years would have been $300, not $1800. Predatory capitalism took your dreams and got you to sign for almost double the price of that bike. I hope you bankrupted a lot more bad debt than that $3k or so on that loan. Certainly, even without Federal student debt relief, you should have been able to bankrupt those student loans. What a backwards-ass shithole country we live in! My only issue with your story is that you still don't seem to realize the true cost of new bikes. A non-electric bike can easily run $3k-$5k for a new Specialized or Salsa bike. Your only option is to look for a good used bike and order a hub motor kit and a battery. Save up for a slightly better "donor bike" and look around all winter. You should be able to find a decent bike, maybe even with disc brakes. Be prepared to haggle the price lower, much like you seemed to fail to negotiate the terms of that awful loan you took (not trying to shame you, just blown away by how bad the terms were). The motor + battery will be $700 or less and should be able to get your bike up to 30mph on a 750w front hub motor. This is much faster than most sub-$3000 prebuilt bikes. I built a DIY bike in 2020 and another one this year and they're the best investments I've made for a bike. I ride every day on the trails, pick up my kids from school in a little trailer, and can displace other car trips as well.
@@Nphen you can get gas powered moped for as little as $500 in asia. and it is much more powerful than ebike shown in this video. does gas powered moped not exist in USA?
@@JoRoBoYo That $500 gas scooter costs $1299 at a US dealership. You cannot take them on bike trails. Having an e-bike is about getting away from the noise, smoke, and hassle of gasoline. Not getting gas or oil on my hands and not having to deal with carburetor issues or trying to kick start a vehicle is worth the added expense. States will probably ban new gas scooter sales within the decade. The USA should be moving beyond fossil fuel.
I don't see how rent, student loans, and wage stagnation fucking you over is the fault of the ebike. That $2000 could've been attached to any other possible expensive thing. Ebikes cost money to make, you can build your own but it's still gonna add up to close to or over $1000.
Thanks for the impressive lineup you're reporting on! I'm torn between the Himiway Escapr for $1799 and the Juiced Scorpion at $1911... Although not a moped, the Aostirmotor 1500W48V15AH70miRange for $1699 deserves honorable mention
I have a dual drive dual motor CSC 20 inc 750 XP.It was 2300 dollars.1700 for the retail bike and another 500 for a 1000 watt front motor and 48v 20 ah battery and seat suspension and seatpost.34 mph top speed (1000 motor only) 80 mile range easily.Mine also rides and looks like a big BMX bike--handles bettre then these and you can adjust the seat..You can not adjust the seat on these and if you are over about 5 foot 9 the seats sit low and your legs will be bent and it will be very uncomfortable to pedal.The grizzly and powerful ones also weigh a lot--close to 100lbs and more.Do research--if you want no hassle and plan on throttle only moped riding get one of these.If you want all around--speed--distance--extreme offroading if need be--look at buying a fat tire ebike and adding a front hub motor to it.
The Monday anza motorbike only goes 25 I got the 750w one, plus the raised the price to almost 3,000 now oh and no suspension so you’ll feel every bump on the road
I like a lot of these but unfortunately unavailable in the UK and don't trust buying from the USA via websites, as been stung before. Paid for delivery but wasn't to my door as stated by company, so had to pay import tax, plus extra delivery costs to my door, also other out-of-pocket expenses.
I own a similar ebike like these one shown. Only downfall with mine has no rear suspension and the Kenda 4 inch tyres wear out real quick. I've been through 4 tyres in first year and most of my riding is on grass. I've changed to 16 inch motorcycle tyres and they should last for years and feel a lot safer when I venture on the road. The Kenda tyres recommend maximum 20 pounds pressure which make the ride smoother but don't feel 100% safe when cornering fast. Apart from that, the bikes a great to ride.
Convert a bicycle , you can get 1kw hub motors and a 48v 20ah battery for around 3..400 quid 6..700 quid for new waterproof 1kw hub kit 30ah52v battery..thats a beast !
Looking for a low price mid drive electric bike with hydraulic brakes and safe UL listed batteries. I wonder if they even exist. You should ensure the bikes on your videos always have safe batteries. If so, say so.
Not really , maybe in certain states but once you use your helmet and respect your space you should not have a problem. I have tons of fun riding my Super73Rx
I'm looking to get mine in a month. Ordered last January. Shipping updates have been positive recently. They posted assembly videos so its getting close. There is a channel who also gave a quick look at it and took it for a spin. It is already going in the hands of reviewers it seems.
A famous celebrity just found out don't ride a off road bike in the city of London the papers say he was doing 20mph so it was not a legal e-bike and had off road tyres in LA a broken back in London a broken arm you think people would learn legal e-bikes are safer his only comment was I have had the tyre's changed I hit a wet patch
Now check this out: Germany is the only country in the world without a speed limit on highways, but these bikes faster than 25 km/h are not allowed over here. 😂
They’re the same thing. Moped is Motors+Pedals. Doesn’t matter if it’s gas or not. Anything else is a scooter or motorcycle. Read up on your local laws because there’s a massive discrepancy between places. In my state for mopeds, If the motor is 50cc and under (or equivalent) and has pedals, you won’t need a license. But if I didn’t have pedals, it would count as a motorcycle, and would need a separate license and registration.
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I have a Sur-ron x black edition, it's been a great electric bike? It was 3,600$. Which is the most I would pay for an electric dirt bike? I thought about the ZERO fx, before I purchased the Sur-ron? There's so much limitation with the ranges and street riding, If I had to do it again? I probably would just purchase CRF 300 rally, for 6,000$ New? Because I want to ride on the street also? But the electric bikes are fun for the trails and goofing off? Maybe In the future when the Battery ranges are better? Just does it make sense at this point when some of those electric bikes are so expensive compared to the gas? Just can't justify it at this point?
The biggest problem with ordering any kind of bike is ( no titles ect) I jst bought a moped did everything I needed or so I thought ,yes pulled over .for 8 months now the company I got it from will not provide me with it or refund the money..so to everyone around the world if it does not come with title do not buy it , it will be classed as a STOLEN VEHICLE.!!!!!!!!
These are way too expensive. Find a cheap used motorcycle that doesn't work bc of the engine or such.. Junkyard works fine. Take everything out and maybe reuse the wheels and suspension if they're alright, sell everything else. Could get a profit from it instead of losing cash. Buy the motor and batteries yourself, pay someone to put it together and it is possible to get it almost to half the price of these, labour excluded.
Товарищи заокеанские обозреватели, разрешите вас поправить: мопед - он на то и мопед, что по определению имеет педали. Если у него нет педалей, то это уже не мопед, а просто какая-то малокубатурная техника. Так что ваше название "Mopeds with pedals" немного некорректное.
if you want to have fun you shouldnt go lower then 5k on a e-moped/motocross...(for example a Sur Ron) if you want low cost build an ebike yourself. you can make it work with a cheap used bike. even with a good bike its not more then 1.5k.
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@@Datacube I could name several but it's easier to say "you get what you pay for." most ebikes under 3 grand is going to have several shortcomings. The sad part is you know absolutely nothing about these bikes or their shortcomings and simply picked them for their price which is lame, misleading and serves nobody but yourself.
Hello, thank you for your comment. Unfortunately these are the times we live in. The inflation has caused many of these tremendously jump up in prices.
You know, another point next to the obvious (being electric, in some jurisdictions don't needing a lot of formal documents, etc.) why these are becoming so popular, is because they actually look like these old 1960s and before motorcycles/mopeds that didn't have panelling and shit everywhere and don't go 6000 kmh, and were understood to be workhorse vehicles for transportation instead of masculinity enhancers or whatever.
I recommend pedal electric AWD3 Or Ariel Rider Grizzly bike . They both are much better quality and more power with double batteries and better bang for the bucks hahahahaha lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳!!!
Okay a new picture and color of a Mad Mod. Very strange indeed. Notice also the 📐 bracket on the frame now. In comments on e-bike noob's channel someone in comments reported they had to modify the frames. Haven't heard a word from Sondors about it but that pic says volumes. Also the same rider as the vid with the bmx guy. Wierd
Hello, thanks for your feedback. One of popular ebike manufacturers in the US has recently issued a press release stating that they prices may even go higher due to the increase in prices for steel and other raw materials, as well as rising shipping costs.
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It's nuts that almost all of these bikes doubled in price over the 4 months that this video was made.
I brought a mukkpet ebike on Amazon for 600$ free shipping
electric is obviously the way of the future. and with gas prices headed to the moon just in time to encourage the transition 😏
in 10 years everything will be electric and gas will be 1 dollar again
FJB.
@@jonsnipe5484 is it good or not?
@@abraham4191 yea it's great... I got 300miles on it
Electric mopeds look great but these looks as well as specifications come at a price. Let's look at the representatives of this segment that have the lowest prices. Are they worth the price? Share your thoughts below!
One thing i like about these bikes the seat must be soo comfortable 😌
Great video. Nice to know the specs of many different companies and models. I've been researching moped style e-bikes, but settled on a regular style e-bike. And, believe it or not, the one and only reason I didn't get a moped style, is because of the height of these. I am 6'1" and I have yet to see a company that makes one for the average taller people. I know that juiced bikes has the seat height adjustment, but it doesn't seem to be significant. When we pedal, the knees should be able to extend almost to straight out. Just a little frustrating that these companies didn't or don't consider this. 😑
Absolutely. It's ridiculous, like selling bicycles with saddles that barely move up and down, not to mention the distance between the seat and handlebars which also makes a big difference
I have the same problm, at 6'3 its hard to find an ebike that fits me. I ended up building my own with a BBSHD kit, An extra large Diamondback Overdrive frame, a custom controller, and a 72v battery. It cruses at 45mph like a motorcycle, and is super easy to maintain. Over 3 years of commuting daily I've only had to do regular matinence, other than replacing the hall sensors once but that was my fault. Between electricitiy, tires, brake pads, and chain replacements, I spend less than $400 a year to go to and from work.
these are not for pedaling, the pedels are ONLY ON THEM to skirt the law, and not have to register and insured them plus a drivers license... it is NOT a petal bike,its a basically a 70s style moped, people didn't petal those either (to heavy) petal added then to skirt the law too 1960s-'80s
Cheap is 700$ for me ‼️
I love my scorpion. And I have two rad power bikes. But the scorpion is a wonderful moped crossover. With 30 miles an hour top speed and a really comfortable seat. I’ve had it a couple years and really enjoy. I also really like my rad power bikes very much too. But they are very much like a Bicycle, and the scorpion is a moped.
None of those are any affordable to me that's for sure, but one can dream, excellently presented none the less
I pre-ordered a sondors madmod back in October of last year. I will be receiving it this week. It was introduced at $1499 with an option of 300 down payment and a 5 installment payment plan. I'll update once I get it cheers!😁
Hello, thanks for your feedback. That's great. Would be really awesome to get your feedback about the hands on experience.
@@herb0321 that's awesome dude, I do have a driving licence but just can't afford to drive at the moment, i don't mind riding a bicycle (in the summer and the spring) I live in the UK, but I don't really like riding a bike in the winter, (you're buggered if you forget your gloves, hehe) really want an electric bike, didn't realise you could do a payment plan and pay in bit, really happy for you,, I would get an electric scooter as they are cheap as chips, but in the UK, they're illegal, now I'm not angel, when it come the law, who is,? Some laws are ridiculous, (I'm Aspergic (a form of autism) so way to honest as you can tell), electric scootera are legal in so many places all over the world, not the UK though, its so stupid, it's good for the earth, clean energy,, if you get caught on one, and I always eventually get caught, but if you do you can get up to a 2k fine, they take it off you, you won't get it back and you get 6 points on your licence, whether you have one or not, so yeah, sorry for the long msg, I mainly wanted to say that's gr8 dude, hope you're loving riding around, stay safe in these troubled,
@@Silvertongue8 hi I am in UK too,so where did you find all this info??
I just got a Michael Blast Outsider 750w with only 19 miles on it for $800 US from a Pawn shop that didn’t know what they had or how to operate past turn on
They couldn’t get it to charge but I saw when looking at it, there was a plug disconnected up in the tank area(lead from charge port to battery)
Got home plugged in and now works perfect
Lol
Point being keep your eye open for listing of used bikes and might stumble across something similar
Good luck if you haven’t found anything yet
Rare to find these kind of channels that gives details and executes it well unlike others.. definitely deserves more subs.. I like your vids, I first watched the top E cars. the video edit itself is pretty nice to watch too.
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Yep i think i will subscribe and share its hard to keep up with the names on the first try, but i like and i just got the rad runner utility, 🏃♂️ its awesome as is no mods needed but this seem like a good business idea
@@Datacube I recommend pedal electric AWD3 Or Ariel Rider Grizzly bike . They both are much better quality and more power with double batteries and better bang for the bucks hahahahaha lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳!!!
신장165cm로서 승하차 시 편리성 ,공도로에서 시속80km이상 주행하고 최고 500km주행 가능하는 전기자전거가 등장하기 간절한 소원이요 ;
Any suggestions? I need 3 bikes for our family. I have two already, a EUY S4 26ah, and Ridstar 21ah. What should be a third? The EUY was $1450 delivered and Ridstar $1,050. Any suggestions for my third bike? Needs to have same capabilities as other two, and is more for playing around on slightly hilly gravel roads and our level fields. Thanks!
The Sondors got the aesthetics just right.
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I LOVE my Juiced Scorpion X! Solid, powerful FUN!
In the US, you can go to car auctions and purchase say a 2010 Hyunday Sonata for usd 500 - $1000.
How is it that the 'low cost' mopeds can cost twice and even 4 times as much?
Either the cars are being auctioned off too cheap or the electric vehicles are too expensive...
Also, except Germany, northen Europe or the US, the rest of the world, a usd $2000 machine is Not low cost.
The price of materials doesn't magically come down because you want it to. Good ebikes start at ~$1300, and that price bracket still comes with concessions.
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Again, you are using US standards. Chinese, Indian or Brazilian standards are much lower.
Dang That Sonata is a steal or a money pit. I'm considering a moped or e-bike because my office is 4 miles away. Less Maintenance/gas/mva fees
@@daniluchison then by your logic this channel is geared towards US standard’s so I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make? The technology is constantly evolving in term’s of manufacturing. Once the demand and supply catch up with each other then prices will go down due to competition
@@daniluchison These aren't even made in the US most of the time. They're just overpriced.
how do you purchase one and have it sent to the usa california specifically? thanks!
Is any of these able to fit bike panniers in the back like normal bike rear rack does?
I don't know who these are affordable for. The first one I could buy, but it wouldn't be legal to ride here, no pedals. Unless you have the cash to put down on the barrel for one of the others, you'll have to finance it. The interest charged on these transactions is the same or more that you'd pay on a credit card, is calculated as soon as the loan is made, and your monthly payments are fixed and *non-negotiable*. The loan interest is immediately added on to the principal, and then divided by the number of months in the life of the loan (say 36 or 48), the result is your monthly payment. A $2000 e-bike put me into bankruptcy 3 years ago, thanks to the financing, and the bike getting stolen and never recovered. The insurance fought me for 2 years, and then only paid a depreciated-value that amounted to 18% of the purchase price, that also contributed to the bankruptcy.
Affordable, for the people that actually NEED one of these for transport, would be about twice the cost of a pedal bike. I won't bother looking at purpose-built e-bikes again for a long time. They're still too expensive, and this video proved it, and they are also very risky to own since they are prime targets for theft. Conversion kits are something I'm looking at now, or an electric kick-scooter, there are some actually affordable models of those. They'd still require public transit a lot for longer trips though, so less overall utility.
Edit: for the clown below me, @VanGough - do you understand basic economics? You don't seem to understand that the 2k was the LIST price, with the interest added on, it came to $3830, over 36 months. That's $106.38 a month. My income was a net of about $1600/month (it still is since wages haven't risen in years); with fixed expenses, such as RENT ($650/month), food ($200/month) and student loans ($435/month). Also a smoker, though I cut back. That's the life of the working poor. And these fucking bikes are affordable? Everybody and anybody who thinks so, can fuck themselves sideways.
Affordable, in this context, means that people can fit a purchase into their budget without having to give up something critical, like food, or utilities. It doesn't mean cheap toys for the fucking wealthy.
Man. U need to work harder if 2K made you struggle that hard.
You are a case-study as to why student debt relief is so critical and why huge college costs and loan costs are bankrupting the American people. Literally, in your case. If you have a degree you should be taking home at least $2500 per month. Even without a degree, a $15 minimum wage would net you about $2000 per month. If America were a sensible nation, we would have a Post Office Bank to make vehicle loans at about 5% per year. The interest on your bike for 3 years would have been $300, not $1800. Predatory capitalism took your dreams and got you to sign for almost double the price of that bike. I hope you bankrupted a lot more bad debt than that $3k or so on that loan. Certainly, even without Federal student debt relief, you should have been able to bankrupt those student loans. What a backwards-ass shithole country we live in!
My only issue with your story is that you still don't seem to realize the true cost of new bikes. A non-electric bike can easily run $3k-$5k for a new Specialized or Salsa bike. Your only option is to look for a good used bike and order a hub motor kit and a battery. Save up for a slightly better "donor bike" and look around all winter. You should be able to find a decent bike, maybe even with disc brakes. Be prepared to haggle the price lower, much like you seemed to fail to negotiate the terms of that awful loan you took (not trying to shame you, just blown away by how bad the terms were). The motor + battery will be $700 or less and should be able to get your bike up to 30mph on a 750w front hub motor. This is much faster than most sub-$3000 prebuilt bikes. I built a DIY bike in 2020 and another one this year and they're the best investments I've made for a bike. I ride every day on the trails, pick up my kids from school in a little trailer, and can displace other car trips as well.
@@Nphen you can get gas powered moped for as little as $500 in asia. and it is much more powerful than ebike shown in this video. does gas powered moped not exist in USA?
@@JoRoBoYo That $500 gas scooter costs $1299 at a US dealership. You cannot take them on bike trails. Having an e-bike is about getting away from the noise, smoke, and hassle of gasoline. Not getting gas or oil on my hands and not having to deal with carburetor issues or trying to kick start a vehicle is worth the added expense. States will probably ban new gas scooter sales within the decade. The USA should be moving beyond fossil fuel.
I don't see how rent, student loans, and wage stagnation fucking you over is the fault of the ebike. That $2000 could've been attached to any other possible expensive thing. Ebikes cost money to make, you can build your own but it's still gonna add up to close to or over $1000.
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Unprotected drive sprocket on the '45 Bike' is an accident waiting to happen. Otherwise, thanks for the video introduction to these models of e-bikes.
I like the first one (Fortyfive) where can you buy it?
Can you please add the links to the companies you are trying to promote in the header ? Its strange that you dont do the that at a minimum
Hello, thanks for your feedback. The websites are shown in the top right corner.
Thanks for the impressive lineup you're reporting on! I'm torn between the Himiway Escapr for $1799 and the Juiced Scorpion at $1911... Although not a moped, the Aostirmotor 1500W48V15AH70miRange for $1699 deserves honorable mention
Thanks for your feedback
@@Datacube I've compiled a lot of information on well over a hundred ebikes. Many 'Top Ten' videos fall far short of the competition...
I have a dual drive dual motor CSC 20 inc 750 XP.It was 2300 dollars.1700 for the retail bike and another 500 for a 1000 watt front motor and 48v 20 ah battery and seat suspension and seatpost.34 mph top speed (1000 motor only) 80 mile range easily.Mine also rides and looks like a big BMX bike--handles bettre then these and you can adjust the seat..You can not adjust the seat on these and if you are over about 5 foot 9 the seats sit low and your legs will be bent and it will be very uncomfortable to pedal.The grizzly and powerful ones also weigh a lot--close to 100lbs and more.Do research--if you want no hassle and plan on throttle only moped riding get one of these.If you want all around--speed--distance--extreme offroading if need be--look at buying a fat tire ebike and adding a front hub motor to it.
Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate the tips based on your personal experience too.
How do you get the upgraded battery? I'm looking for a good bike for doing grubhub and postmates. Your rig sounds really good!
The Monday anza motorbike only goes 25 I got the 750w one, plus the raised the price to almost 3,000 now oh and no suspension so you’ll feel every bump on the road
I like a lot of these but unfortunately unavailable in the UK and don't trust buying from the USA via websites, as been stung before.
Paid for delivery but wasn't to my door as stated by company, so had to pay import tax, plus extra delivery costs to my door, also other out-of-pocket expenses.
Serious dual sports.
I own a similar ebike like these one shown. Only downfall with mine has no rear suspension and the Kenda 4 inch tyres wear out real quick. I've been through 4 tyres in first year and most of my riding is on grass. I've changed to 16 inch motorcycle tyres and they should last for years and feel a lot safer when I venture on the road. The Kenda tyres recommend maximum 20 pounds pressure which make the ride smoother but don't feel 100% safe when cornering fast. Apart from that, the bikes a great to ride.
I have the Ariel rider x class 52v amazing bike 🤘🤘
I got the Grizzly, with 72V, 36AHr. Too fast.
DESDE ARGENTINA FELICITACIONES
I'm watching this, wishing I could afford even the cheapest one
Convert a bicycle , you can get 1kw hub motors and a 48v 20ah battery for around 3..400 quid 6..700 quid for new waterproof 1kw hub kit 30ah52v battery..thats a beast !
Very good 🙏
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We have Juiced Scorpions, awesome!
Very cool
Why wasn't the Lectric bike included?
Hello, thanks for your feedback. it doesn't seem to qualify for the moped style ebike. Lectric 2.0 is a neat folding model though
I went to the 45 ebike site and my phone almost exploded.
how can i get one
Looking for a low price mid drive electric bike with hydraulic brakes and safe UL listed batteries. I wonder if they even exist. You should ensure the bikes on your videos always have safe batteries. If so, say so.
I like all of them.
Finally a good list
Hello, really appreciate your feedback.
Thanks for posting for me to pricey buy used best for scooter
Sondors is the best-looking moped bike.
Woww just 1 hour upload, and I put this comment
Thank you for the feedback!
Do you need a motorcycle driver license to ride on the road ?
Not really , maybe in certain states but once you use your helmet and respect your space you should not have a problem. I have tons of fun riding my Super73Rx
When rich people say rich...I say "yeah right" in my sarcastic voice.
The radrunner plus can be fitted out like a small cargo bike. I like that option.
Thanks for your feedback.
the himiway escape costs the same but is a way better bike, rear shock, hidraulic brakes, front and back rack (extra on radrunner)
Requirements to own a electric bike:
1_be single
2_ready to blow away your money
3_be ready to ride alone😩
4_and most important have space
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Besides the requirements, do you see any advantages of owning ebikes?
My wife almost met the 1st requirement for me when she saw it after I brought mine home
Lol
Is this available in Philippines thanks
Meron. Join ka sa fb group. facebook.com/groups/ebuph/?ref=share
Check out the PAJ GT2 Escooter
Hello, thanks for your feedback
No links to the bikes? Why?
Hello, they are displayed in the top right corner.
love how every shot of these being ridden they're going downhill..
Hello, thanks for your feedback. With 750W of power, they shouldn't have any problems going uphill too.
Do they come with puncture protection?
Scorpion e bike yes
I really wish those were more affordable.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. You are right. This is what every consumer is looking for. Let's not lose our hopes.
Get you a LECTRIC bike it’s a really good affordable ebike before price goes UP
Sondors Mad Mods have been delayed for months now. They also just jacked up the $$$
So far TERRIBLE news and service surrounding the mad mods... I ordered it in January. NO BIKE... just bs excuses.
I'm looking to get mine in a month. Ordered last January. Shipping updates have been positive recently. They posted assembly videos so its getting close. There is a channel who also gave a quick look at it and took it for a spin. It is already going in the hands of reviewers it seems.
I've got a shipping date. We'll see.
@@00devils did you get a ups tracking number yet?
Tracking number received
Not a single moped on this list, just bikes
A famous celebrity just found out don't ride a off road bike in the city of London the papers say he was doing 20mph so it was not a legal e-bike and had off road tyres in LA a broken back in London a broken arm you think people would learn legal e-bikes are safer his only comment was I have had the tyre's changed I hit a wet patch
Now check this out:
Germany is the only country in the world without a speed limit on highways, but these bikes faster than 25 km/h are not allowed over here. 😂
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Yes, European ebike regulations are quite strict.
where does ebike become "moped" or are they same? Esp in the eyes of the law where riding on a sidewalk and registrations come into play?
They’re the same thing. Moped is Motors+Pedals. Doesn’t matter if it’s gas or not. Anything else is a scooter or motorcycle.
Read up on your local laws because there’s a massive discrepancy between places. In my state for mopeds, If the motor is 50cc and under (or equivalent) and has pedals, you won’t need a license. But if I didn’t have pedals, it would count as a motorcycle, and would need a separate license and registration.
The shady ass laws here in nj are only thing keeping me from getting 1
Where can we order this ?
Hello, thank you for your feedback. The official store is always the best way to go. We are displaying the sites in the top right corner. Alternatively, you may just look the store by searching for the bike name.
@@Datacube thank you 😁
Is this available at lazada
Sondors actually is priced at $2999
3500 😂 i guess their customer base grew exponentially over the last 3 months
Check out Addmotor electric moped style bikes.
Hello, thanks for your suggestion
I have a Sur-ron x black edition, it's been a great electric bike? It was 3,600$. Which is the most I would pay for an electric dirt bike? I thought about the ZERO fx, before I purchased the Sur-ron? There's so much limitation with the ranges and street riding, If I had to do it again? I probably would just purchase CRF 300 rally, for 6,000$ New? Because I want to ride on the street also? But the electric bikes are fun for the trails and goofing off? Maybe In the future when the Battery ranges are better? Just does it make sense at this point when some of those electric bikes are so expensive compared to the gas? Just can't justify it at this point?
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The biggest problem with ordering any kind of bike is ( no titles ect) I jst bought a moped did everything I needed or so I thought ,yes pulled over .for 8 months now the company I got it from will not provide me with it or refund the money..so to everyone around the world if it does not come with title do not buy it , it will be classed as a STOLEN VEHICLE.!!!!!!!!
These are way too expensive.
Find a cheap used motorcycle that doesn't work bc of the engine or such.. Junkyard works fine. Take everything out and maybe reuse the wheels and suspension if they're alright, sell everything else. Could get a profit from it instead of losing cash. Buy the motor and batteries yourself, pay someone to put it together and it is possible to get it almost to half the price of these, labour excluded.
Ariel rider copare price with range 😍😍😍
Are these considers bikes
Товарищи заокеанские обозреватели, разрешите вас поправить: мопед - он на то и мопед, что по определению имеет педали. Если у него нет педалей, то это уже не мопед, а просто какая-то малокубатурная техника. Так что ваше название "Mopeds with pedals" немного некорректное.
I'll buy one if it's cheap or monthly payment plan 😂 lol
if you want to have fun you shouldnt go lower then 5k on a e-moped/motocross...(for example a Sur Ron) if you want low cost build an ebike yourself. you can make it work with a cheap used bike. even with a good bike its not more then 1.5k.
None of these are cheep...or reasonable cost....
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Just out of curiosity, how would you define reasonable cost?
uhhh I don't think 45 bike exists anymore
Hello, that's unfortunate.
These aren't mopeds
None of these E-mopeds look big enough for a 6ft and over person... they look like children bikes.
I wanted the mad mods but went on the site and it said 3k 💀
Mad Mods is now over $3K.
Prices are higher on the manufacturer websites
Hello, thanks for your feedback. Can you please share the models when you spotted inconsistencies? We check the prices several days before posting.
Scorpion X premium bike?🤣🤣🤣 Did you checked yourself? It's a piece of garbage that's falling apart while you're riding on it.
Himiway is a rad mini knock off selling for $1200 in Seattle, both "Made In China".
The first one...because I can easily convert it to gas!!
Hello, thanks for your feedback. So a pedal bicycle with an ICE is your choice of a city commuting vehicle?
👊👽👍electric💨
Please don't put the info to the bottom of the screen, it is a less than ideal position.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. What would be the better placement?
@@Datacube Somewhere out of the way of the progress bar. The top maybe?
Spoiler alert… Stay away from BISON SUPER BIKES. The owner is a lying thief.
Does 45 bike even exist?
I was in a pedestrian area when some cocky scag came storming through on one of these bikes I think they will be band
Or just get a gas one
These things look like cheap childrens bikes. Somebody needs to do some research on grown up bikes.
I'm 60 years old and can tell you.. Being "Grown Up" is VASTLY over-rated !
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what is being said here about range is an absolute joke
Hello, thanks for your feedback. These are range estimations, there are many factors that influence the range, many of these factors were mentioned in our presentations
Every bike here is an underpowered POS. The Sonders bike is an exception but is still grossly underpowered.
Hello, thanks for your feedback. What kind of performance would be more suitable for a means of transportation like that?
@@Datacube I could name several but it's easier to say "you get what you pay for." most ebikes under 3 grand is going to have several shortcomings. The sad part is you know absolutely nothing about these bikes or their shortcomings and simply picked them for their price which is lame, misleading and serves nobody but yourself.
That sonders bike is double the price in your video - shame, its my favorite one - costs nearly as much as a real motorcycle. Total fail
Hello, thank you for your comment. Unfortunately these are the times we live in. The inflation has caused many of these tremendously jump up in prices.
Diy is the way to go, and for me fat tyres are terrible .
You know, another point next to the obvious (being electric, in some jurisdictions don't needing a lot of formal documents, etc.) why these are becoming so popular, is because they actually look like these old 1960s and before motorcycles/mopeds that didn't have panelling and shit everywhere and don't go 6000 kmh, and were understood to be workhorse vehicles for transportation instead of masculinity enhancers or whatever.
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nothing is affordable!!
I recommend pedal electric AWD3 Or Ariel Rider Grizzly bike . They both are much better quality and more power with double batteries and better bang for the bucks hahahahaha lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳!!!
wow witch one is better...please...lol?
Okay a new picture and color of a Mad Mod. Very strange indeed. Notice also the 📐 bracket on the frame now. In comments on e-bike noob's channel someone in comments reported they had to modify the frames. Haven't heard a word from Sondors about it but that pic says volumes. Also the same rider as the vid with the bmx guy. Wierd
All bikes in this video are too slow and range way to low
Hello, thanks for your feedback. These could not be made any faster otherwise they would belong to a different vehicle class.
Prices are still ridiculous
Hello, thanks for your feedback. One of popular ebike manufacturers in the US has recently issued a press release stating that they prices may even go higher due to the increase in prices for steel and other raw materials, as well as rising shipping costs.
“Affordable”
What…. ?
These are the lowest prices models out there.
Aye
Hello there!
@@Datacube Love the videos, keep up the good work :)
Thanks for the support