In The Fall
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- A short hand-drawn animation created in Adobe Flash and After Effects about one mans reflection on his life. Music by Guided by Voices
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Copyright © 2011 www.stevecutts.com
Fun fact: To make him fall for 70 seconds from 0:23 to 1:33, the skycraper must have a height of about 24 km.
@@rohakperry according to the free fall formula h=1/2*g*t^2 with t=70 s
@@culturedweeb7746 OMG
@@jatupongau1132 basic physics
You've got the point. Congrats!
@@loafofbread4816 basic physics.
This is what I'm afraid of, end up living like this... even if I'm just 21
Oh no, everything is set in motion, you can't escape the system
Me too, although I'm only 22...Let's hope we can get well
Welcome to the real life, son... I M 31.
Depends on where you live and what kind of person you are,if you enjoy your free time say goodbye to it after collage it all changes.
21 here
Some people find this sad but I actually find it scary. We only live once, and reviewing your whole life in your last moments and realizing it wasn't worth it must be the worst thing ever.
We are eternal beings we live eternaliy and we move on next new life
Jesus Christ died on the cross for the sins of the world to save mankind from death and hell and offer instead the gift of forgiveness and eternal life.
He was buried for three days and rose from the dead on the third day according to the scriptures.
Repent and believe on His name and you will be saved! God bless you and your family.
Its impossibile for us to look back at our life and realize that it was not worth living. because thats not how nostalgia works.
nostalgia means that you look back at an almost forgotten age, wich may was awful but you associate that age with the propably small amount of good things wich you also experienced
This is so sad
Definitely. Realizing that you wasted your one shot at life, and you will never get another chance.
I’m 21 years old (God, even writing this is sad, just recently I was 12 years old and I was happy), I’m from Minsk, and this video touches my soul. It seems like just recently I had friends, I laughed and enjoyed life. Then adult life, bullying, routine problems, alcohol and drugs. Two terrible years of rehabilitation. Remission and tears. And I, standing now, like the hero of this video, on the edge of an abyss, see suffering and pain behind me (only childhood left good memories), and in front there is only a fall. And now, I’m soon 22 years old and... I don’t know how to live this life. Where and why did I take a wrong turn? Why me? My life is meaningless, thanks for this video. And thanks for the comments. I'm glad to feel that I'm not alone.
Same ma. The Only good thing was My childhood
When you are studying: I will be happy when I graduate
When you study at university: I will be happy when I find work
When you find a job: I will be happy after starting a family
After starting a family: I will be happy when I retire
After retirement: I will be happy when I die ...
True
@Indian Anime Pc Gamer when you reincarnated: Put on repeat
i am in college and i am happy.
it is not something which can be objectified it all lie within us just we have to be conscious.
But there are other quote!::
When you are in primary: I loved my days when I was kindergarten
When youre in secondary: i loved my days when I was primary
When youre in high school: i loved my days when i was secondary
When youre in job: i loved my days when i was highschool
When youre retired: i loved my days when i worked
=U loved everyday of ur life
0:45 Stop, look.. what he is watching?
oh......
ペニス
xD
watching*
Хуй)
So Steve Cutts was 16 when he created this?
A creative genius
Probably he grew up with depression
HE WAS WTF?
How can you see that?
@@7sedma Maybe, kids having sorrowful childhood are always older than kids at the same age , mentally
@@Kios365Official exactly you got the point
Wow, this captures life so accurately, the vitality and fun of youth, the responsibility and duties of adulthood, and the shattering of reality when you learn it's all just one big cycle that claims all of us sooner or later. The loss of innocence, the weight of doing what you have to do to get where you want to go, the crushing defeat of not getting there like you wanted to...
Exactly !
Hahaha I vibe with the "crushing defeat" ha ha 😂 I hate it
So? Life is not that complicated. You wake up, go go work,.eat 3 meals, take a 💩, go back to bed
Is he happy at the end knowing his suffering is finally ending?
correct
it's better to die than living a life like a dead man working for the entire life. i think that's the point.
@@TheStelioskaras sooo basically the original comment is correct
Phase 2B did u hear the impact of the fall
less about his suffering ending and more about his life being just work so nothing was lost
This is so relatable with 90 % of this worlds population
Every one just focuses on earning money till they get old
Just enjoy life guys dont stress too much !!!
Dude it’s kinda hard when everybody in my life is now attacking me for not getting a high strung career and not wanting to work more than 20 hrs a week.
@@xtdycxtfuv9353 os ignore, você não deve nada a eles, vá ser feliz, explore o mundo, fique em contato com a natureza, ou melhor, o que sobrou dela....
@@xtdycxtfuv9353 uh oh working 40 hours a week is the norm 😂
هذا المقطع وحده كفيل بأن يخبرك بكم العبثية في هذه الحياة تولد لتشقى مدة من زمن وتنتهي وكأنك لم تكن
مافي شي اسمه عبثي .اولا يجب ان تشكر الله على النعم اللي انت فيها .لازم تخلي ارث من وراك مادي ومعنوي وتغير شي .او ينتهي بك المطاف تاكل وتشرب وتنام .وهمك المادة والمغريات فقط.حتى تدفن وكانك لم تكن موجود .
لكن الذكريات والاعمال تبقى .ولو بعد موتك
Why youtube recommended me this on 2019
I'm not an expert but if you want an answer you should ask them
They say that seeing yourself die is better that being in missery.
For me its becase we have been watching some of his others in english.
@@snipuhh__enthusiast2736 I agree
@@raidengenorga8055 I subscrined to you
This is, and forever will be, my favorite video on UA-cam.
I’ve waited
Too long…
You need medical help then.
@@guzotak to have you
hide in the back of me
Then you haven't watched this animator's other films. He's a genius.
Нет
와 명작이다.
어제 밤에 아기를 재워놓고 볼륨을 완전히 소거하고 봤다.
너무 감명 깊어 오늘 아침에 볼륨을 켜고 다시 봤는데
Bgm까지 완벽하다. ㅜ
자신의 삶을 돌아보더니..
"죽는 것이 차라리 좋은거네" 하며 미소짓는 상황이
신나는 음악과 잘 어울려서 눈물이 나 ㅜ
whatsmycut
좋은 말 해줘서 고마워.
Плакал или плакала?
@@ДауренАсхат выучи корейский, может поймёшь
ㅇㅈ합니다
steve Cutts you are absolutely amazing. Your works are all important masterpieces, works of art. Thank you !
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(RIP whoever this is)
1960-2011
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By the comments I read I think we might be missing some point here.
Well, I can be wrong but let's think about the time when people's work was closely related with their survival. And by that I mean food, water, clothes and all the basic stuff. Working would be planting, hunting, building, sewing, etc. You would get tired, but you wouldn't get FRUSTRATED. The great difference today is that you don't see the reward in all your efforts, because you feel like being paid to do basically what someone else wants you to. That's why so many companies are looking for identification with their employees. Everything is much better if you get paid to do what you want. Theoretically you would be even more productive.
Well, sometimes what you would like to do and what you're good at don't match. Or you don't find anything useful to do with your abilities or the things you like. Whatever is your case, there MUST be a way you can get to do what makes you happy. Anyway, you have to know the difference between what you want and what you need. Maybe necessity will get you in a job that you hate, that's alright as long as you don't stay there forever.
The guy in the video lost his life to his job, like so many do, but it only feels so sad because his job looks SO BORING. How can someone ever be supposed to like that kind of work? However, you can work in front of a computer for hours and not be like that guy. The difference is what is on the screen. You have to remind that even if it looks attractive, working can be a trap if you give yourself too much to it.
Your life comes first. It is the major reason that you work. Primitive people would hardly forget that. Keep that in mind, don't be a puppet of the system.
True bro thank you for taking this time for Writing for us 😀
Great Interpretation! Thank u
👁.
OP giving a pretty good description of alienation of the fruit of labor from the worker. The employer pays the worker a fraction of the output's value, and the difference is the basis for the firm's profit. Most workers sacrifice most of their time spent working to make money for someone else.
Discount Chocolate Yep corporations who feed off of us, and blind us from seeing the truth of our reality💯.
at least he was happy in his young years, most dont have that luxury
Whut?
死ぬ時に後悔せんように人生楽しもうって気にもなるけど、
死ぬのも悪くないって気にもなる
Yeah, yeah dude sure
わたひわえっまぬえlです。どうぞよろしく
わかる。ところで、やっと見つけた、日本人。
私もえっまぬえlです!
@@うわぁあ-v7u なるとじゅつ!
"We do things we don't like doing in order to go on living so we keep doing what we don't like doing"
Better to have a short life filled with things you love rather than a long life spent in a miserable way.
Why? What about the others? What about the rest of your own nation?
If every one thought and did the way you are suggesting, there would be no humanity.
船が有るなら明かりが無くても進める
船が無くても明かりが有るなら進める
船も明かりも無いならそれが良い
ただ浮かぶだけよりもそれが良い
Muy cierto
Concuerdo con el chino japonés
Ste men
名言出たな
何こいつ笑笑
Nihao
生きている時はあんなに泣き叫んでいたのに死んでしまったら叫ぶこともできない。
だから死んだ時に代わりに周りの人が叫んでるのが何か好き
このコメント大好き
I like how his computer fits the time period
Прикольно
And his necktie it gets more simplified as time progresses
This isn't just an animation. It is a work of art.
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I have anxiety since childhood. I always lived in fear and panic. There was always conflict among the people at home. Somehow when I grew up, I also felt cheated in love. I also went into depression and was slapped by failure.People's taunts sometimes make me feel like taking my own life.😢
same
How? This is literally my life word-for-word.
This is the kind of life I want to avoid. I dont want to work 7 to 5, for 40 years. Go to appointments on my day off; There is more to life! And everytime I tell my parents that I dont want to waste my life, they tell me that this is normal, I have to do this. This is life. NO THIS IS NOT LIFE,THIS IS HELL!
Get a job bum
Yup the ticking clock will be louder than your work coz you can't wait to go home.
Exposing your age on UA-cam be like
if there had not been money vampires, you would not had to work 7 to 18
Yes im a born to bee wild and free! Not a slave!
I like it how the man spent the last seconds of his life trying to be happy and enjoying the moment
Which actually not possible in real life
2023 and nothing has ever felt more relevant..
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How trash our life could be that can be summarized in 1 minute and 44 seconds.
二分足らずでここまで伝わるのか...
How tall is this town?
He fell from the khalifa
He was falling for exactly 68 second (minute and 8 seconds). He fell from a 22.2 kilometers tall building (or something similar).
@@Subscriberswithnovideos-cu4dx I see......they mistook a plane for a building lol
@@sakshamsood7480 It's just an animation, it doesn't have to be realistic.
Ye duang dao rethink ur comment....n btw subbed u
”Don’t Live The Same Day For 75 Years And Then Call It A Life.”
The thing is, once he grown up, his life only at that desk, nowhere to go.
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RIP the man in the video
1961-2011
This is actually sad, I feel so bad for the guy
🌹🌹🌹
Whats with the roses? Going on a date?
@@mairokindasus8807 idk xd
@@Javp_ 🖤
@@العراقفيدقائق ❤️?
1:11 No wonder he's unhappy. I'd be crying too if I had to use a Macintosh at work. Good thing we have PCs.
+Luke Beauchamp its sad that is all you got from the video
+Brandon Lee
I worked I a Mac based office for five years and I was miserable. Now I work in a PC based office and I'm much happier.
6 years ago
How are you?
@@love-ty8tw 9 months ago. How are you?
@@bonecreator_ 4 hours ago, how are you?
The message I got is that growing up in the 19th century was better than today
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1:19 its me working the homeworks
Homework is work, yeah. Many jobs are just a way to get somewhere else. What l mean is that you need a plan, to imagine a way to be more free. It tales that to use whatever money you have to not be a wage Slave. The irony is that even if you achieve your dream you have to learn to work with its successes and failures. But it will be your work and more your own life. For example, study music, or build on a love of something. It doesn't cost alot of money sometimes for that. But if you start with the homework you will have more control of your life later. Try
1:26
The best sermon to be followed is "Just Be yourself. Don't become anyone!"
Easier said than done!?! 😲
We are born as a child.
We become students.
We become professionals.
We become spouses.
We become parents.
We become Grandparents.
We become Great grandparents!
We continue to become something or someone all our lives.
The waves in the sea may take a break but the waves in human life never cease. 🌊,🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
Song is by Guided by Voices - "Game of Pricks"
Forgot to mention Guided by Voices is the greatest band of all time.
Best band EVER. This video made me listen to GBV, and now I discovered a lot of songs of them like motor away, I am a tree, shockers in gloomtown, i am a scientist, tractor rape chain etc
@@edwardfairchild Damn right !!
@@merdefilms3837
Oh! Me too!!
0:22 how did a butterfly get that high???
Because its a cartoon
Because it can
Becuz its yellow
Because of the zaza
"Dont cry because your gonna die laugh because you got to live" - Dr Suess
But i didnt chose to live i wonder why god let me go to earth
Or because your suffering Will end 🤷😌
You're.
Ayyye boi I said this before you
@@Redd_E 😊
Sent this to my dad and he replied with "Thats just how it is"
That’s rough buddy
@@chuckmcgilllHe’s not wrong.
Thank you dad for life then
Well, see y’all in the next 8 years when this is gonna be recommended again
Your videos are really a condesed form of metaphors.....really philosophical....thank you for working hard on these animations as I know it takes large amount of time to make thrm
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急におすすめ出てきた日本人いる?
わいもや🙋
ぼくもー
はーい🙋
急に来たww
呼んだ?
" I N T H E E N D I T D O E S N ' T
E V E N M A T T E R "
凄い風刺やな…
この人凄いわ…
The most sad moment about this is, who’s gonna water his plants now that he’s dead?
Anyone noticed that he could have easily avoided falling at 00:17 and that he would have noticed the banana peel if he was not so focused on his work? Oh well, maybe I am misinterpreting this.
It could be
Hans Hintermann ,
Good interpretation.
yeah the banana peel represents the hindrances that can be notice easily
I find it kinda ironic that the better computer he had, the sadder he got
Thanks to that butterfly, he felt a lil' happy after those years.
Moral of the story: make a video about wasting life and wait for it to get recommendation after 9 years.
Lol
How many here to person activity given by Acharya Prashant sir? 😅
I am
the 80s seems fun
If you look more closely you will realize the this video is actually about the evaluation of computer monitors.
Evolution?
The year I was born was the year where he first had a touch with reality.
2001 was the year where he started crying.
Desperately tried holding himself together in 2010, but he cracked again in his final year briefly before taking the fall.
This video is actualy 11 years old
"Another day, another day" (a nod to The Zero Theorem)
I switched on my laptop, sipped my morning coffee, connected to YT,
found this to watch and LAUGHED and LAUGHED and LAUGHED!
Ok
学生の今を大切にしようと思いました
俺も
0:34 is that a +51 years calendar?
good point 💀
Si lo pausas bien dice 1959 o 1960
@@Polandball0138 lo que quise decir hace 5 años es que el calendario abarca más de 51 años.
2011-1960=51
@@juanignaciojaime7563 ese no es el signo (+)
@@Polandball0138 qué?...
This is the tipe of video that when you first watch it, it dosen't mean that much to you, but then a few hours pass and you can't stop thinking about it.
Steve I love your work,all videos are very powerful ! thank you!
Lesson : Banana peel is a murderous weapon
he was asserting his dominance through a t-pose but the wind pushed him off
The man in heaven: man I have to agree that that wasn't so bad! i have to use this medicine again!
After seeing his life played before his eyes, he realised he's lived a full life, and thus accepts his fate.
Mr. Eazily McTriggered I thought it was because he realized how miserable his wife was so he was happy he wouldn’t suffer anymore
Well i don't say a full life: he was miserable in his job for 30 years
@@arturocastroverde3349 22*
OMG, 30 year at the Same Table 😂
it's like he had nothing left to loose, it couldn't get any worse anyway, so he just took it easy in the end, with the few remaining precious moments he had.
"blink and youll miss a year!" Ahh video
Looks like the collapse of the Soviet Union made him really sad
and yugoslavia
Lots of misinterpretations of this video. There is no "wasting" of life or time. Regardless of how you spent that time/life, you will inevitably feel a helpless sense of having "wasted" time as the years pass more rapidly than those before it and you age. It's a sad reality that our best days are our early ones. You can choose to refuse this fact and be defensive, but it's the truth. As time goes on, you will melancholically long for earlier days until the moment you perish.
Doesn’t matter either way we’re all gonna die one day
"there is no wasting of life" yeah stay convinced, go on TikTok then back here then say it again
*Another victim of Rat Race*
Y'all gotta remember you can be in the rat race and still have a good life. Develop the bewt possible relationships with coworkers, go home not thinking about work but instead how you'll have a good time outside of it. Realize that at the end of the day this is your life, and your only one. Might as well spend it the best possible way. Hell, maybe one day you'll do this long wnough that someone comes along with an opportunity for you to get out of an office and into a better job. Theres never a solidified ending, instead think of yourself like a raindrop on glass, you're only gonna go down but you can manipulate your path downwards.
Sorry man I'm slightly misunderstanding what your saying. Yeah we can waste time. We always do. Such as procrastination and stuff. Plus, it's better to make the fullest of life (even though I hear it's pretty difficult) before death.
made me instantly think about my mother
Friends: why do you get bored of life?
Me:
I will do something far bigger than me.
this scares me but im happy that it does
日本人にも届いたよ
example of everyone's life.
Moongduri choice
When your life flashes in front of you, this guy gets a projector.
He was falling for 69 seconds so the building was over 76,000 feet tall and his velocity when he hit the ground was over 1,500 mph...
Dom Icah no, because of air resistance you can’t reach that, there’s a point when you can’t go faster than 122 mph
Alex Lancer I’m too lazy to calculate for air resistance, pretend they’re on a planet without air
Dom Icah honestly I don’t blame you, my physics are a little rusty and I just wanted to point that out
Alex Lancer ok lol
But the weirdest thing is that he puts his plants on top of a 76,000 feet tall building...
1:26 frio e calculista 😳
I respect gay people
get the fuck out
How about stop making unoriginal comments dumberboy gaming.
@Ger Flor you are a degenerate
Wow so funny
@Ger Flor saying triggered seems that you try to be cool
Here is what happened to him at these timestamps
He was happy
0:34 - 0:55
He started to become depressed
0:55 - 1:05
His depression became severe that he started crying and being mad
1:06 - 1:19
yes but in 2012 he was at the hospital age 60 years old and at 2013 he already died of 90 years old of R.I.P and lasts at 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and how he was in heaven in 2019 and lasts at 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023.
No matter how many of these types of videos get made, plenty of you will wake up tomorrow and go through the same brainless, toxic motions, missing the point entirely.
Those yells had the swords and sandals win theme play in my head
now I know what my dad feels
Give him a Hug.
Say that you love him.
Trust me!
Esse vídeo me apresentou uma das melhores bandas que já conheci.
*Logan Paul wants to know your location*
Who do you think is filming him falling down.
How to get on trending
@@memeswereablessingfromthel3942 SUPERMAN
except he Didnt save him
But, it wasnt a suicide in this case
@@user-co9sm6qq4b
It's close enough
“Don’t live the same day for 75 years and then call it a life.”
That is called a job
@@KUIJEN8659 Dude that is SO depressing
@@KUIJEN8659 oof
Your god daam right
51 years*
Atleast he had a happy childhood.
@Bekad Baens. True, true
0:45 happy (pause video and click or watch 0.25)
Yeah some of us don’t even have decent childhoods...
That obito mask
Bekad Baens. opposite bud opposite.
The reality of this is more terrifying than anything.
+Edward LePrieur ur right. but we created the reality. every single bit of it. :(
+JJ Mina not we... but they i didnt agreed on this :)
That guy should be greatful he has a job. Going to the office every day is what gives my life purpose and it's also my source of income.
Nope, I have a purpose in life and I work with a great team. People who sit around at home doing nothing all day are sad.
Luke Beauchamp life isn't all about working and money
Fun tidbit: The reason your life tends to flash before your eyes before you die is because your brain is desperately searching memories for a potential solution to the problem you're facing.
Edit: It's been over 4 years now, and goodness there have been so many replies. I feel I should clarify something. I believe I wrote my initial comment with too much absolute certainty. In truth what I wrote is just a hypothesis to try and explain why some people experience seeing their life flash before their eyes when they encounter a near-death experience. Given that testing this, by its very nature, would require someone to be in a life-threatening situation...needless to say it isn't as deeply researched or well-documented as one might want. It's simply a hypothesis that I found quite compelling and fascinating.
fucking awesome
wow!
Sounds bs
+Cellidor hahahaha that's huge bullshit
+Cellidor Nope your just winding the tape back for God. :D
He realizes he’s wasted so much precious time, and so he decides to not make the mistake again. He lights a smoke and enjoys the moment for all it is.
True
amazing
@@hamzehaladwan no
But instead breaks all of his bones, crushes his organs and die
@@somekidnamedchris well he had no other choice... The birds couldn't save him 💀✨
oh yes that was really good for my depression.
:'(
It does feel good to have some confirmation you're not just some batshit crazy bastard running around this spheroid. We just have a perspective that others conveniently miss.
Depression is part hanging onto the past, as stress is more about the future, tho can come from thoughts of it too..and also part seeing the things in our man made world, and what we do to the earth and each other and everything in between and having empathy amplifies it at times..ignorance is bliss in that these things don't bother those who choose not to pay attention. I'm finding that without redirecting the energy focused in the very thing that drains it to one spot of which includes some sort of action, it remains a stagnant feeling easily dwelled in. It's a practice,and easier said than done, as an energy draining cycle is not easy to break and requires effort in itself. However it is worth it, at least more than it's worth putting that energy into something that just takes it and doesn't make one feel good. We are but a complex chemistry set without a handbook.
@@JohnSmith-cc3ud ''We are but a complex chemistry set without a handbook.'' it is ultra super expression.
😞 sad : (
When you realize that he sat at a desk for 1/3 of his life...
That would only be true if he started working at the desk the same day hes born, but he did not.
That is the "society" that you feel love everyday.
You just forced to use your "human brain"
"human brain" is key source in system.
System gives you his source "money" to force you use that "human brain"
Basically the thing that you have in your inside is worth not your body neither you.
@@Email5507 So sad 😣😭😭😭😭😔
the sad thing is, in real life, its actually more. Even during schooling students are stuck at their desk
and slept for the other 1/3 of his life.
As someone who is not happy in their early twenties, and is missing the amazing experiences that everyone else is having, this animation gives me a lot to think about...
Us
Pain
My twenties were also full of suffering, least the beginning was. I don’t remember much after that outside of all the bar hoppin I did. I took Peter Griffin’s advice “ let’s go drink til we forget we have emotions” and by god I did just that. I shouldn’t have though, I should had been brave and faced my pain head on but I was a bloody coward who felt overwhelmed and didn’t know how to process it in a mature manner. I may talk like I’m old but that was only 12 years ago. Truth is it still bothers me but I understand now that I have to take each day a step at a time and on my own terms. I wish you all the very best in whatever troubles you so deeply.
Damn, dude. I feel that. Good thing you’re realizing it, because we only get to do this once.
As someone who suffers from poverty because of stingy employers that expect me to put more work in for breadcrumbs, I understand. On the verge of becoming a supervillain at this point.
Typical human spends their whole lives working like that. That's why we need barriers on rooftops.
Found ya!
wassup boi
YASS YOU ONLY HAVE 9 LIKES RIGHT NOW
Lets cut the problem from the root, just don't put plants on the roof of a sky scraper
1:05 no wonder he’s crying, he can’t work because they forgot to give him a keyboard
Lmao
XĐDDDDDDĎDDDDSDDSDDDDSSDSSSSSSDDDDDDDSDSSSDDDDDDDDDDDDD
XXDXDXDXDDDDD
Lol
The keyboard is right there.
This video is terrifying. Wasting my life away is one of my worst fears.
Good luck on not doing that lmao
Sometimes that's not a choice.
Working isn’t wasting your life. It’s surviving. People have mouths to feed and bills to pay.
@@philip7833yea but for what purpose? He didn't breed
If you believe in Jesus you will find eternal life and peace 😊
*He died, because a butterfly sat on his shoulder.*
Butterfly effect
He died, because he forgot to live.
y e s
Where
De Gaming Tube maybe its a banana effect this time huh
I love how he starts getting sad in 1991, the collapse of the soviet union
This
Now it's really sad
What i know about 1991 is the birth osf sonic the hedgehog. I was a sonic fan before
1991 is the year sonic came out...
Nope soviet government consists of vampires who consumes labour. Kapitalizm has defects also but its more free