I was a plasterers labourer when I left school for 2 years. Never got to touch a trowel once as the plasterer didn't want another skimmer he only wanted a labourer. I left eventually and went down a different path. Worked my arse of for 15 years in a dead end job after a few years of this and that here and there. Was being paid 60 quid a day for all day 6 days a week. One day at age 40 my partner and I employed a plasterer for a small wall skim over. We paid him 380 for one days work and bare in mine my wages were 360 take home a week was a lot to pay out. The job he done was shockingly bad. I brought a few trowels and other tools and redone it better myself. Gave up my job at age 41 and decided to do plastering. Watched UA-cam videos and realised I knew most of what was being shown and got a bit of confidence. Decided to replaster my house from scratch. Ripped all the plaster and backing off and started to learn how to do hardwall and bonding and multi. It was a nightmare. Now age 45 I'm a plasterer with my own business. I got all my own jobs and learned as I went. Started on 200 a day and went up quick. I charge between 200 and 380 a day now mostly being 250 to 275 a day. You have to do the work and put the effort in. Take the wins and the losses but wow the life is amazing compared to being a yard boy in a builders merchants loading peoples cars feeling like a looser to people being so grateful for the work you do. Be clean. Be honest. Work hard. Never stop learning more.
Hats off to you, I've been plastering 46 years now straight out of school at 15 and like you said, work hard be polite and make sure the customer his happy and you reap the rewards, it can be physically demanding but I've never seen financially a poor plasterer who knows his trade. 5 and a half years left now.
I work in building merchants in the yard, I know how you felt. I feel a loser at times, I'm currently learning plastering at college doing a evening course. Hopefully once I've completed it I can get a plastering job and leave my job.
@craignorton5211 just do it. Don't overthink it. Keep trowel in hand for as long as poss and it will work if u never give up and keep trying. You can do it mate. All of you can. Just do it.
I'm currently at college learning plastering, I'm 39 in March, I've had jobs in places the same as you, the best paid one was at the Toyota factory for over 11 years but I got sick of the compulsory overtime and the travelling. I'm looking to broaden my horizons and I feel learning a trade is the way to go. Thanks for this video, it's very informative 😁👍🏻
@@philipsheard624 really well thanks, I finished last week. I got nominated for an award by my tutor. I won the extra mile award for good attendance and willing to learn more things than the rest whilst still in full time work. I also won the Principal's award for a render project I did for the Coronation. I've loved the course, I scored the only distinction in the theory exam, the practical and overall results aren't until next month. I feel ready to now tackle my own house on my days off. The course cost me £500 but it was definitely worth it 😊
I used to be a plasterer back in the 90s Got in to window cleaning and started my own business Now 30 years on I run a cleaning business doing everything exterior including roof cleaning etc but don’t do it myself just the office side and do plastering for myself a few times a week for my own extra cash Can charge reasonable rates without being extortionate and it all is extra Mortgage just about paid so looking in to selling up and just doing a bit of plastering for myself and only 50 Definitely good money to be made Easily a couple hundred a day self employed without rushing your arse off Keep it up fella
This is the man's club for online viewers. We should just talk to each other. But allow this guy to get on with his day !! Real Life Truth on each job sector. Well done fella you're doing really well.
Appreciate the video Joel and your honesty as a fellow spread and owner of a small rendering outfit . Never underestimate your worth ! People will always pay good dollar for quality work my friend. Keep.the videos coming.
I’ve been plastering for 10 months and absolutely love it. Must be abit crazy as we run about constantly and go home filthy but I think I love the chaos. Started doing full rooms on my own now and starting to teach other lads at work plastering which is mind blowing to me as I’ve not been doing it long. I work in social housing so not skimming everyday but would like to become a self employed plasterer one day and be on some decent money
I'm a decorator and when I worked on social housing years ago, the plastering was the worst I've ever come across. It looked like a blind person had done it.
@@jimbobalob2491 I’ve seen some shocking skimming and decorating too. Lads cutting in either 2 inch away or all over the ceiling. Some blaggers out there
Great video my man! The way I see it, if you're booked up for 4 or 5 months, you're doing something right. As a decorator, I've stopped quoting for jobs. My existing clients are my most precious clients and half my work comes from them.They know I'll turn up when I say I will, and they will get a quality job. They don't bat an eye at my day rate, and I save them and me from the hassle of the quoting process, when someone always loses out. Glad I watched this - Your work ethic and skill level bring the value.
Now I am 56yrs old with a knackered back after several spinal surgeries , use to lift half inch 8x4 boards 2 at a time of trucks, 3 x 100 weight bags of browning at a time off truck to floor two at a time going into building, mix 3 bags backing at a time with drag in bath, finish with stick in large bucket then podge bike cog on end of metal pole, no mixers, 2+1 squad 40 bags floated and skimmed in a day record for our squad, started as labour ended up labour and putting small ceilings on in between gauges, was on £70 a week! when I was 20yrs old that's 36 yrs ago.
I’m starting a bit late at 20 but I’m learning on the tools with my dad, I’ve come quite far in less than a year I’m dot and dabbing, I’m banging it on walls finishing the walls just struggle on ceilings but you can’t master plastering straight away like you said it takes years and years. Obvs my dad has to help me sometimes but I’m determined to get there.
my old man was a really good plasterer but he totally undervalued himself, charging only £13 a hour. It totally destroyed his shoulder in the end, is a filthy job, bad for you lungs and health and people are too tight to pay you
Couldn’t agree more with you. I did plastering from 17 till 29 ish. I’m 35 now . Absolutely horrible job. Dunno why I did it. Just wanted a job. To earn money. And didn’t want to be a bum. And my mates Neighbor was looking for a apprentice. So glad I don’t do it anymore. Your right. Your massively under appreciated. And people don’t want to pay what your worth. A lot goes into it. Covered in crap all day. And you can never stop. Once you put it on the wall. It’s just continuously ongoing. I’m studying the knowledge now. How long did your old man plaster for ? I will never pick up a trowel in my life. Joel If you read this. honestly my advice is. Make sure your earning minimum of £250 a day. Ideally £300 a day. Cause honestly it ain’t worth it. If you ain’t earning like that. Just know your worth.
Should of charged at least £150 a day, that's cheap today as most are around £180 in London anyway, you won't be doing any plastering in an hour so charge by the day ? I'm £150 as a painter Decorator as most good tradesman can demand that, tbh i wouldn't get out of bed for less, good tradesman are very hard to find, you might get cheaper just never knock back a good tradesman for somebody cheaper then when it goes wrong & has to be put right, ask them to sort out the mess, as it's an insult, i get pissed off when they argue a price then when i say i can save you half the money spending on paint they insist instead of using Farrow & Ball, colours can be made exactly the same but at half the cost, don t argue the price then spend £100 on 5 Litres of emulsion
Anything is worth what its worth. I ve done social care, £6 an hour, aggressive clients and colleagues, policies, medication etc...so why was i not with more and others in that position??
Thank you. This is brilliant for those any business, those principals you mentioned, value, quality, credibility were on point. Even down to thinking about the other things that we dont always include, like overheads, rainy days, all was very helpful, thank you.
It's the same for me mate as a decorator. You're day rate reflects how much you can get done and the quality of your work. Another plasterer/decorator might charge a lower day rate but take twice as long to do the job.
Thanks for the insight to your journey, trying to set your own business up is hard! I don’t think people understand the over heads that come with it and that’s part of the reasoning behind the rate. I’m no plasterer, a decorator and it annoys me more when I give someone a rate and they look shocked and say it only needs one coat of paint!
Respect what a pure honest man down too earth and up front Legend mate im an Electrical engineer thinking of also adding plastering too my skillset set as after any rewire jobs the plasterer is needed next great vid mate top man
Reliable and on time. As an air con engineer I have employed people for the last 30 years , some good some bad. Give me reliable blokes who turn up on time over a more skilled lad who cannot be relied upon every single time. I work on large sites , most plasterer’s I come across on site are on anything from 200 to 300 a day depending on the work being done.
Thanks for the content. I just shared it with my nephew, who just started a plastering course but can not envision the process and his life as a plasterer beyond the course. Cheers 🍻.
I was in your game for years but I've moved into maintenance now and your journey brings back memories. We used to do alot of solid plastering plus everything else but it sounds like its mainly skimming now. The trade seems like its been de skilled alot maybe because it has to be as noone wants to spend 5 years learning everything when you can learn to skim in 6 months and call yourself a spread. Its a shame the construction industry in general isn't given the respect it deserves.
Your the same as me by the sounds of it I started on floating with sand and cement whole houses plus floor screeding with wash sand and cement, rendering an pebbling with sand and cement and lime
@@stephendavies925 similar here, rarely did screeding but yes cement floating that soon gave way to Hardwall, some heritage lime work , rendering, dashing etc. Don't miss it. We ended up realising you can earn the same money for skimming so why bother with all the hassle of the more involved work. Its a shame fhat the trade is now so un professional and de skilled.
@@marks-0-0 Yes hard work at the time, but I've also had my time dry lining and skimming and overskims a lot easier on the arms but agree a lot of the skills and different things we used to do or gone out of the plastering trade now ie tiling, cornice work, flooring a bit of roofing as well using heavy ol'd sacking for scrim lol all part of your apprenticeship
Great video. I never charge a day rate ,it's always by the m2. I've slowly went from £7 per m2 up to £16 . I'll not get that on average domestic work but I get it for commercial work. Like you , I think I can offer a lot more in a day than most plasterers which is why I don't charge day rate.
Your price is what your willing to give ur time up for, everyone can set a different rate for that, depending on what they can do etc. if people say your a rip off etc it’s because they can’t afford you. Any decent tradesman should be getting over 250 a day. I’m a chippy been on site for a few years earning good money but got sick of it and the rat race. Been trying to build up some local work the past few months it’s going well atm! 🤜🏻
Fantastic story mate, never touched a trowel in my life but I relate to doing shit work, been on 50 pound a day was tough times haha. Whatever was left Friday all went on pints and id be asking for my wages first thing on Monday most Mondays. Cheers
Iv Been doing it 18 yrs started off labouring £40 a day went up to 160 a day 3 years later once I was good on the trowel. now I charge £450 a day & moved on to Venetian plastering lodes more money init compared to traditional plastering.all the best mate
how are you finding getting work mate, is it good money? what was the transition like? I am looking to do the course and start doing the Venetian work ill be honest pal.
@@Rendervate yea good money mate and getting plenty of work doing media and feature walls lot of people want there tv and fire place all built in with shelves either side lights etc and a Venetian plaster finish .get onit bro u won’t look back it’s a lot easier on body and no where near as messy .all the best bud
Danny, I'm currently at college learning plastering, I've seen the venetian plastering, I really like the look of it. I'd like to specialise in something. I think there's a niche in the market for women plasterers but also venetian plastering
@carolinemoor738 Venetian plastering is the way forward you can earn £110 a square meter depending where u r in the uk compare to £6-10 a square meter lodes more money init
@@Rivaboyz1987 wow I had no idea there was that much money in it 😳 I'm quite artistic anyway, I think that's why I'm drawn to it. I could trial it in my own house, the whole place needs redoing
I tell you what. I live in the South of France, you could come down here and earn a fortune. Trying to get a plasterer is like trying to find rocking horse dirt. Most people will give you board and lodging and pay for flights, just to get a job done proper.
@@Rendervate around Monaco. A lot of the houses here suffer from the humidity. So they need lime plastering. All they do here is slap on two lots of board and how for the best.
Hi Joel nice to hear your story. I'm a fantastic plasterer in the west midlands. Struggle to charge this here it's too competitive. However listening to your story you have been through exactly the same as me I'm 36. been doing plastering since age 15 left my boss during the double dip recession in 2012 due to no work and set up my own business fine finish plastering I've been through a lot and I can relate to everything you say. Just recently put our rates we just do domestic plastering
I think their is a dark cloud hanging over us plasterers in the comming months with the way the world is but their is a shortage of quality plasterers out their the good ones will survive
Double dip recession that’s what happened! It was a scary time! Yeah you get it mate, it’s hard to explain sometimes but you got to earn your stripes in my eyes man 👊🏾 keep up the good work man
@@Rendervate I am a similar age as you and I remember the 120s a day ceiling after 7 years in Plastering. At that time this information was not out like this on how to value yourself and what you could charge ect... It used to frustrate me so much as it was hidden knowledge, which in my opinion is wrong. If you are a good Plasterer then you charge good money that's it. Great video, for me one of the best iv seen on this.
Iam a builder / handyman I have had a customer say she was educated and she wasn’t on that much which about 10 yrs ago was £150 a day I said are u educated in roofing and the dangers involved and I spent 8 yrs learning the trade when young as did she learning to be an accountant etc I then asked how much my tyres cost fuel insurance mot tax maintenance of van , tools drills Whacker plate chainsaw thousands of pounds worth , holiday pay bad weather , quotes that you don’t get because they av a mate who will do it for next to nothing etc she went quiet 😂
My 1st wage as a hid carrier was 75 pound a week 27 years ago aswell pal but same as you i worked my way up the ladder and eventually ended up on 120 pounds a day as a top hod carrier. Now im a plasterer earning around the same but i live in sunny spain 😂 so every cloud mate
Been a scaffolder for 7/8 years been made redundant 3 times in a year grafting ya arse off for rubbish money and hardly no work around where I live (Newcastle) Been thinking about getting into plastering I want a proper trade and a sustainable future do you think it’s a good move mate or would you recommend not getting into plastering. I’m 25 years old got a 1 year old son and wanting to get a house asap I want good money now but obviously I’ll have to start from the bottom won’t I ?
I know a guy from the local pub that'll plaster a room for £50. They call him crack head Kevin. OK he's a bit rough but it's nothing a belt sander can't sort out
Im about to start a plastering course next week. I just want to be able to have a skill that i can perfect over time. Id be happy with £150-60 a day to start. Im 37 and have been into construction most of my life. Never plastering. Ive laboured for a plasterer before but never on my own. Can you offer me any advice? Also reading this, do i sound daft? Am i reaching at £150-60 mark?.. Any advice will be welcome. Nice to hear your story. New subscriber here m8 👍
Good man so first of all you need to search rendervatehub on Facebook and join my group, on there info weekly videos and chats, 🙌🏾🙂 And it’s one of them type of trades mate hard to get a start I’ll be honest, but it’s something you can do alone but you need to be determined and stick with it. Get in the hub we have a community mate, it’s full of advice and free information man
@joelcooke-rendervate1227 Thanks for the reply and the advice/information. I'll have a look at your page ASAP 👍 I've definitely got the will and determination to stick at it and will do everything i can to succeed. The building industry is most definitely where my heart is. I just want to start earning some proper money as i head towards my 40s. Thanks again for your response 👍
Well done son we need a lot more young men & and women to take up any trade today we are already paying the price for not teaching trades anymore it’s not encouraged in schools anymore it’s about university they have made it shameful for anyone to carry a bag of tools and get there hands dirty i’am afraid good on you son
Great video mate I’m in a similar position at the moment I’ve just turned 20 and can comfortably board and skim a bathroom out in a day or prep a lounge one day and skim the next but in sun contracting work from a company and there limiting me to what my wage is because of my wage even though like you said there’s people at the company who are 30+ and I know that my work is better quality and cleaner I take more pride in what I do what’s your advice going forward Joel I’m in Leeds too so would be great to be working along side yourself I feel in taking the steps you took in your life and it’s inspiring ☑️
quality mate, yeah experience is key in my eyes but knowing your worth is important also. drop me a email mate with your info and we can catch up one time pal, probably next year now like.
Yeah like you 300 a shift on site. Like you say your paid what your worth, if you get it done people are happy to pay. Its about skill and your attitude to the job!
Werevyou about when plaster bags were 100 wieght, when you used a gauge just putting on hessian skrims ect, no mixers, finish in a massive bucket bike cog on end of metal pole, drag in a tin bath 3 bags of browning a pop, £70 a week thirty five yesrs ago, wait till ya back is fxcked.
@@boostfrog. hahah it’s all good g, no way I’m from Leeds man, over the hill 😉 but we can still be pals I won’t hold that against you being a manc and that lol
@@Rendervate I actually ment leeds, I got muddled up with the accents. Keep up the vids mate 😎 need to start uploading to my channel n try get it to take off. Give me a subscribe 👌
@Rendervate Leeds Plastering and Rendering Experts Funny one haha. No mate, I think that is ridiculous. I get you're good and your job and love work, like I do. But 360 sheets a day with no risk. Just turning up for work and doing 8 hours. The building industry will not survive, in my opinion. Price work you're in charge of your own destiny. But never would I pay anyone that on day rate. Maybe I am just a tight ####. Haha
I like the cut of your jib , but personally I think your still not charging enough , I mean those prices don’t put anything in the pension pot . I’m fifty now and trust me the jobs end up taking twice as long. So I charge three or four times more than you and I’m still flat out. Think of the future charge more and pace yourself.
Hey thanks for the comment mate, I am literally always putting them up I think I can get more for my plastering for defo, and my rendering is my biggest money maker, we gross great profit on them
I was a plasterers labourer when I left school for 2 years. Never got to touch a trowel once as the plasterer didn't want another skimmer he only wanted a labourer. I left eventually and went down a different path. Worked my arse of for 15 years in a dead end job after a few years of this and that here and there. Was being paid 60 quid a day for all day 6 days a week. One day at age 40 my partner and I employed a plasterer for a small wall skim over. We paid him 380 for one days work and bare in mine my wages were 360 take home a week was a lot to pay out. The job he done was shockingly bad. I brought a few trowels and other tools and redone it better myself. Gave up my job at age 41 and decided to do plastering. Watched UA-cam videos and realised I knew most of what was being shown and got a bit of confidence. Decided to replaster my house from scratch. Ripped all the plaster and backing off and started to learn how to do hardwall and bonding and multi. It was a nightmare. Now age 45 I'm a plasterer with my own business. I got all my own jobs and learned as I went. Started on 200 a day and went up quick. I charge between 200 and 380 a day now mostly being 250 to 275 a day. You have to do the work and put the effort in. Take the wins and the losses but wow the life is amazing compared to being a yard boy in a builders merchants loading peoples cars feeling like a looser to people being so grateful for the work you do. Be clean. Be honest. Work hard. Never stop learning more.
Hats off to you, I've been plastering 46 years now straight out of school at 15 and like you said, work hard be polite and make sure the customer his happy and you reap the rewards, it can be physically demanding but I've never seen financially a poor plasterer who knows his trade. 5 and a half years left now.
Lovely that lad. I'm 31 and thinking of having a blast
I work in building merchants in the yard, I know how you felt. I feel a loser at times, I'm currently learning plastering at college doing a evening course. Hopefully once I've completed it I can get a plastering job and leave my job.
@craignorton5211 just do it. Don't overthink it. Keep trowel in hand for as long as poss and it will work if u never give up and keep trying. You can do it mate. All of you can. Just do it.
Fair Play to you Boss !
I'm currently at college learning plastering, I'm 39 in March, I've had jobs in places the same as you, the best paid one was at the Toyota factory for over 11 years but I got sick of the compulsory overtime and the travelling.
I'm looking to broaden my horizons and I feel learning a trade is the way to go.
Thanks for this video, it's very informative 😁👍🏻
How did the college course go as I'm looking at a career in plastering and researching course's.
@@philipsheard624 really well thanks, I finished last week. I got nominated for an award by my tutor. I won the extra mile award for good attendance and willing to learn more things than the rest whilst still in full time work. I also won the Principal's award for a render project I did for the Coronation.
I've loved the course, I scored the only distinction in the theory exam, the practical and overall results aren't until next month. I feel ready to now tackle my own house on my days off.
The course cost me £500 but it was definitely worth it 😊
@@carolinemoor738 Thank you, appreciate the reply x
I used to be a plasterer back in the 90s
Got in to window cleaning and started my own business
Now 30 years on I run a cleaning business doing everything exterior including roof cleaning etc but don’t do it myself just the office side and do plastering for myself a few times a week for my own extra cash
Can charge reasonable rates without being extortionate and it all is extra
Mortgage just about paid so looking in to selling up and just doing a bit of plastering for myself and only 50
Definitely good money to be made
Easily a couple hundred a day self employed without rushing your arse off
Keep it up fella
This Video should be shown to every teenager who is leaving school with no qualifications , with no confidence about their future.
This is the man's club for online viewers. We should just talk to each other. But allow this guy to get on with his day !! Real Life Truth on each job sector. Well done fella you're doing really well.
Appreciate the video Joel and your honesty as a fellow spread and owner of a small rendering outfit . Never underestimate your worth ! People will always pay good dollar for quality work my friend. Keep.the videos coming.
I appreciate that! legend man thanks
I’ve been plastering for 10 months and absolutely love it. Must be abit crazy as we run about constantly and go home filthy but I think I love the chaos.
Started doing full rooms on my own now and starting to teach other lads at work plastering which is mind blowing to me as I’ve not been doing it long. I work in social housing so not skimming everyday but would like to become a self employed plasterer one day and be on some decent money
I'm a decorator and when I worked on social housing years ago, the plastering was the worst I've ever come across. It looked like a blind person had done it.
@@jimbobalob2491 I’ve seen some shocking skimming and decorating too. Lads cutting in either 2 inch away or all over the ceiling. Some blaggers out there
Excellent mindset and a remarkable journey. Well done mate. Loved your story
Thanks my man 👊🏾
Great video my man! The way I see it, if you're booked up for 4 or 5 months, you're doing something right. As a decorator, I've stopped quoting for jobs. My existing clients are my most precious clients and half my work comes from them.They know I'll turn up when I say I will, and they will get a quality job. They don't bat an eye at my day rate, and I save them and me from the hassle of the quoting process, when someone always loses out.
Glad I watched this - Your work ethic and skill level bring the value.
yes man thanks so much for the kind words i appreciate you watching man
Now I am 56yrs old with a knackered back after several spinal surgeries , use to lift half inch 8x4 boards 2 at a time of trucks, 3 x 100 weight bags of browning at a time off truck to floor two at a time going into building, mix 3 bags backing at a time with drag in bath, finish with stick in large bucket then podge bike cog on end of metal pole, no mixers, 2+1 squad 40 bags floated and skimmed in a day record for our squad, started as labour ended up labour and putting small ceilings on in between gauges, was on £70 a week! when I was 20yrs old that's 36 yrs ago.
20 year's at it! Arthritis! Asbestos exposure. Doomed
I’m starting a bit late at 20 but I’m learning on the tools with my dad, I’ve come quite far in less than a year I’m dot and dabbing, I’m banging it on walls finishing the walls just struggle on ceilings but you can’t master plastering straight away like you said it takes years and years. Obvs my dad has to help me sometimes but I’m determined to get there.
20 is not late bro. I started plastering at 22. I am 35 now and run my own plastering business
I'm 31 an looking to give it a go
my old man was a really good plasterer but he totally undervalued himself, charging only £13 a hour. It totally destroyed his shoulder in the end, is a filthy job, bad for you lungs and health and people are too tight to pay you
Couldn’t agree more with you. I did plastering from 17 till 29 ish. I’m 35 now . Absolutely horrible job. Dunno why I did it. Just wanted a job. To earn money. And didn’t want to be a bum. And my mates Neighbor was looking for a apprentice. So glad I don’t do it anymore. Your right. Your massively under appreciated. And people don’t want to pay what your worth. A lot goes into it. Covered in crap all day. And you can never stop. Once you put it on the wall. It’s just continuously ongoing. I’m studying the knowledge now. How long did your old man plaster for ? I will never pick up a trowel in my life. Joel If you read this. honestly my advice is. Make sure your earning minimum of £250 a day. Ideally £300 a day. Cause honestly it ain’t worth it. If you ain’t earning like that. Just know your worth.
My shoulder is fucked literally not from plastering tho from wanking in prison
Been there my shoulders gone too, but earned some good money in the 80s
Should of charged at least £150 a day, that's cheap today as most are around £180 in London anyway, you won't be doing any plastering in an hour so charge by the day ? I'm £150 as a painter Decorator as most good tradesman can demand that, tbh i wouldn't get out of bed for less, good tradesman are very hard to find, you might get cheaper just never knock back a good tradesman for somebody cheaper then when it goes wrong & has to be put right, ask them to sort out the mess, as it's an insult, i get pissed off when they argue a price then when i say i can save you half the money spending on paint they insist instead of using Farrow & Ball, colours can be made exactly the same but at half the cost, don t argue the price then spend £100 on 5 Litres of emulsion
Anything is worth what its worth. I ve done social care, £6 an hour, aggressive clients and colleagues, policies, medication etc...so why was i not with more and others in that position??
Thank you. This is brilliant for those any business, those principals you mentioned, value, quality, credibility were on point. Even down to thinking about the other things that we dont always include, like overheads, rainy days, all was very helpful, thank you.
thanks man. its a hard job to do man.
It's the same for me mate as a decorator. You're day rate reflects how much you can get done and the quality of your work. Another plasterer/decorator might charge a lower day rate but take twice as long to do the job.
Thanks for your honesty mate business is not easy anywhere ,but if your good at what you do you will always get work ,jimmy Australia
Thanks for the insight to your journey, trying to set your own business up is hard! I don’t think people understand the over heads that come with it and that’s part of the reasoning behind the rate. I’m no plasterer, a decorator and it annoys me more when I give someone a rate and they look shocked and say it only needs one coat of paint!
Or as i said mate spend on Farrow & ball paint & argue the cost of work i charge
Respect what a pure honest man down too earth and up front Legend mate im an Electrical engineer thinking of also adding plastering too my skillset set as after any rewire jobs the plasterer is needed next great vid mate top man
Thanks a lot mate appreciated man
your Welcome Mate 🤛
Reliable and on time. As an air con engineer I have employed people for the last 30 years , some good some bad. Give me reliable blokes who turn up on time over a more skilled lad who cannot be relied upon every single time. I work on large sites , most plasterer’s I come across on site are on anything from 200 to 300 a day depending on the work being done.
I’ve been plastering 30 yrs your spot on buddy all the best Del
Thanks for the content. I just shared it with my nephew, who just started a plastering course but can not envision the process and his life as a plasterer beyond the course. Cheers 🍻.
I was in your game for years but I've moved into maintenance now and your journey brings back memories.
We used to do alot of solid plastering plus everything else but it sounds like its mainly skimming now. The trade seems like its been de skilled alot maybe because it has to be as noone wants to spend 5 years learning everything when you can learn to skim in 6 months and call yourself a spread.
Its a shame the construction industry in general isn't given the respect it deserves.
Your the same as me by the sounds of it I started on floating with sand and cement whole houses plus floor screeding with wash sand and cement, rendering an pebbling with sand and cement and lime
@@stephendavies925 similar here, rarely did screeding but yes cement floating that soon gave way to Hardwall, some heritage lime work , rendering, dashing etc. Don't miss it.
We ended up realising you can earn the same money for skimming so why bother with all the hassle of the more involved work.
Its a shame fhat the trade is now so un professional and de skilled.
@@marks-0-0 Yes hard work at the time, but I've also had my time dry lining and skimming and overskims a lot easier on the arms but agree a lot of the skills and different things we used to do or gone out of the plastering trade now ie tiling, cornice work, flooring a bit of roofing as well using heavy ol'd sacking for scrim lol all part of your apprenticeship
Great video. I never charge a day rate ,it's always by the m2. I've slowly went from £7 per m2 up to £16 . I'll not get that on average domestic work but I get it for commercial work. Like you , I think I can offer a lot more in a day than most plasterers which is why I don't charge day rate.
yeah good man get that metres chucked on!
£16 per m2 for what?
Skim only £16!?
Board and skim I think, that’s a good price supply and fit
@@Rendervate ah Ive got 15 board and skim labour only at the minute. Private job.
A frank conversation which has to be listened to and heeded...👍🙂
Plasterers on site are still working for 1980's prices 😡 Again know your worth!!! It's OK for everything else to go up
Your price is what your willing to give ur time up for, everyone can set a different rate for that, depending on what they can do etc. if people say your a rip off etc it’s because they can’t afford you. Any decent tradesman should be getting over 250 a day. I’m a chippy been on site for a few years earning good money but got sick of it and the rat race. Been trying to build up some local work the past few months it’s going well atm! 🤜🏻
Haha babe your tyres gave me a chuckle 😂 teehee
Fantastic story mate, never touched a trowel in my life but I relate to doing shit work, been on 50 pound a day was tough times haha. Whatever was left Friday all went on pints and id be asking for my wages first thing on Monday most Mondays. Cheers
Thanks for this video. I didn't realize what this job was like. We only see the finished product so it's easy to lack appreciation.
Iv Been doing it 18 yrs started off labouring £40 a day went up to 160 a day 3 years later once I was good on the trowel. now I charge £450 a day & moved on to Venetian plastering lodes more money init compared to traditional plastering.all the best mate
how are you finding getting work mate, is it good money? what was the transition like? I am looking to do the course and start doing the Venetian work ill be honest pal.
@@Rendervate yea good money mate and getting plenty of work doing media and feature walls lot of people want there tv and fire place all built in with shelves either side lights etc and a Venetian plaster finish .get onit bro u won’t look back it’s a lot easier on body and no where near as messy .all the best bud
Danny, I'm currently at college learning plastering, I've seen the venetian plastering, I really like the look of it. I'd like to specialise in something. I think there's a niche in the market for women plasterers but also venetian plastering
@carolinemoor738 Venetian plastering is the way forward you can earn £110 a square meter depending where u r in the uk compare to £6-10 a square meter lodes more money init
@@Rivaboyz1987 wow I had no idea there was that much money in it 😳 I'm quite artistic anyway, I think that's why I'm drawn to it. I could trial it in my own house, the whole place needs redoing
Absolutely brilliant.
I tell you what. I live in the South of France, you could come down here and earn a fortune. Trying to get a plasterer is like trying to find rocking horse dirt. Most people will give you board and lodging and pay for flights, just to get a job done proper.
where about are you based mate, my lasses family live in the south of France too, I would like to live and work there
@@Rendervate around Monaco. A lot of the houses here suffer from the humidity. So they need lime plastering. All they do here is slap on two lots of board and how for the best.
Great story, love your work ethic,I think the secret is don’t charge what you think you can get away. Just charge a fair price for you & the customer.
Hi Joel nice to hear your story. I'm a fantastic plasterer in the west midlands. Struggle to charge this here it's too competitive. However listening to your story you have been through exactly the same as me I'm 36. been doing plastering since age 15 left my boss during the double dip recession in 2012 due to no work and set up my own business fine finish plastering I've been through a lot and I can relate to everything you say. Just recently put our rates we just do domestic plastering
I think their is a dark cloud hanging over us plasterers in the comming months with the way the world is but their is a shortage of quality plasterers out their the good ones will survive
Double dip recession that’s what happened! It was a scary time! Yeah you get it mate, it’s hard to explain sometimes but you got to earn your stripes in my eyes man 👊🏾 keep up the good work man
@@Rendervate totally agreed
Great video fella. 😆😆😆 the tyres 🛞 box of sharpies 😆🤟
thanks a lot my man
Great video , really enjoyed this one . The tyre’s bit made me laugh to 😂
hahaha bro the tyres are burning my head out I swear! hahaha
One of the best videos iv seen 👍
@@jamiefurey564 thanks man big words them pal appreciated
@@Rendervate I am a similar age as you and I remember the 120s a day ceiling after 7 years in Plastering. At that time this information was not out like this on how to value yourself and what you could charge ect...
It used to frustrate me so much as it was hidden knowledge, which in my opinion is wrong. If you are a good Plasterer then you charge good money that's it. Great video, for me one of the best iv seen on this.
Just started following you. Come across as genuine. Nice fella
Iam a builder / handyman I have had a customer say she was educated and she wasn’t on that much which about 10 yrs ago was £150 a day I said are u educated in roofing and the dangers involved and I spent 8 yrs learning the trade when young as did she learning to be an accountant etc I then asked how much my tyres cost fuel insurance mot tax maintenance of van , tools drills Whacker plate chainsaw thousands of pounds worth , holiday pay bad weather , quotes that you don’t get because they av a mate who will do it for next to nothing etc she went quiet 😂
Great video
Honest guy doing an honest days work
The future is bright
Joe - relating to a lot of this and you seem like a sound bloke! Get in touch… let’s try and bring back the good years…🎉
My 1st wage as a hid carrier was 75 pound a week 27 years ago aswell pal but same as you i worked my way up the ladder and eventually ended up on 120 pounds a day as a top hod carrier. Now im a plasterer earning around the same but i live in sunny spain 😂 so every cloud mate
Great video mate . The resection was life changing 4 me as well horrible time 4 working people. Just starting out .
Left school April 1964 apprentice plasterer, five and a half day week, first weeks wage £2.20p
damm
Quality mate im sorry but you got me on the tires youve been on a journey mate hope things are good you seem you deserve a good life pal
Wow nice comment mate appreciate that man
Top man. Enjoy videos. Really help
new subscriber enjoyed this video pal good luck to you with your channel👍👍
Your mum sounds just like mine, we are blessed mate.
Cracking video, Honest and to the point👍
Great video mate really enjoyed it 💯🎯
Glad you enjoyed buzzing mate
Sound video Joel,
tiler from south with a similar journey and mindset.
Great video and great attitude 👍
thanks mate, its what we was raised like my man
Interesting video, thanks for the insight.
Quality, insightful video mate
thanks man glad you liked it mate
Great video that mate, learned alot thankyou🙏
I always say that we work in a free economy...... I am free to charge what ever I want and the customers are free to except my prices or not.
yeah its uptown you, its good to be able to work it out though and not pluck a number for me.
Good. for you, you got wisdom and drive.
Been a scaffolder for 7/8 years been made redundant 3 times in a year grafting ya arse off for rubbish money and hardly no work around where I live (Newcastle)
Been thinking about getting into plastering I want a proper trade and a sustainable future do you think it’s a good move mate or would you recommend not getting into plastering.
I’m 25 years old got a 1 year old son and wanting to get a house asap I want good money now but obviously I’ll have to start from the bottom won’t I ?
Value in getting in done right first time to a standard that will last for 10+ years.
I know a guy from the local pub that'll plaster a room for £50. They call him crack head Kevin. OK he's a bit rough but it's nothing a belt sander can't sort out
good man, experience is priceless.
That’s what I learned too mate,
Guys like Joel are Gold dust ,good attitude,fast,quality finish.You get what you pay for.
Our job is physical we are worth the money! We all do fuck up sometimes re money.
How do you find work?
All social media mate, mainly Facebook, or my website which is linked to my social media. That’s all I do
@@Rendervate top man
It's sad the youth don't wount to work in the cold Air. Sending blessings
Fellow spread all the best matte
Respect brother 👊🏾
Great video bud on your journey👍 out of interest mate is that Baumit KZP basecoat what you’ve done there??
Thanks man, not kzp mate it’s x32 from Ecorend it’s beautiful to work with mate
@@Rendervate looks a great finish you got there never used it I’ll give it a go 👍
1991- £25 a week at 16 straight out school on a yts, soon got swerved lol
My first wage as a apprentice sparky was 160 pound a week!
What year was that?
@@gracebateman777 2016
Im about to start a plastering course next week. I just want to be able to have a skill that i can perfect over time. Id be happy with £150-60 a day to start. Im 37 and have been into construction most of my life. Never plastering. Ive laboured for a plasterer before but never on my own. Can you offer me any advice? Also reading this, do i sound daft? Am i reaching at £150-60 mark?.. Any advice will be welcome. Nice to hear your story. New subscriber here m8 👍
Good man so first of all you need to search rendervatehub on Facebook and join my group, on there info weekly videos and chats, 🙌🏾🙂
And it’s one of them type of trades mate hard to get a start I’ll be honest, but it’s something you can do alone but you need to be determined and stick with it.
Get in the hub we have a community mate, it’s full of advice and free information man
@joelcooke-rendervate1227 Thanks for the reply and the advice/information. I'll have a look at your page ASAP 👍 I've definitely got the will and determination to stick at it and will do everything i can to succeed. The building industry is most definitely where my heart is. I just want to start earning some proper money as i head towards my 40s. Thanks again for your response 👍
Your journey 👍
Thank you Michael 👊🏾
❤️ big love 👊
my guy!
Respect for you .when you do good work you should change well a good job is cheap.
thanks man
Walked out of school into the 2008 recession, it was no joke trying to find work
Started out labouring to a joiner for 30 a shift lol
Game ain't based on sympathy
@@dicesquaresuk Never said it was.
Never asked for any.
Worked out well for me
@@scotland2256 😅
Well done son we need a lot more young men & and women to take up any trade today we are already paying the price for not teaching trades anymore it’s not encouraged in schools anymore it’s about university they have made it shameful for anyone to carry a bag of tools and get there hands dirty i’am afraid good on you son
Hard graft is plastering
Great video mate I’m in a similar position at the moment I’ve just turned 20 and can comfortably board and skim a bathroom out in a day or prep a lounge one day and skim the next but in sun contracting work from a company and there limiting me to what my wage is because of my wage even though like you said there’s people at the company who are 30+ and I know that my work is better quality and cleaner I take more pride in what I do what’s your advice going forward Joel I’m in Leeds too so would be great to be working along side yourself I feel in taking the steps you took in your life and it’s inspiring ☑️
quality mate, yeah experience is key in my eyes but knowing your worth is important also. drop me a email mate with your info and we can catch up one time pal, probably next year now like.
I will do thank you very much Joel!
My guy! 👊🏽👊🏽🇯🇲
Recession is hard.
Spot on Joel
Yeah like you 300 a shift on site. Like you say your paid what your worth, if you get it done people are happy to pay. Its about skill and your attitude to the job!
my 1st wage was £25 a week back in '84 on a YTS lol
Same in 82.
Lol😅 that’s a shit load of money! I was £25 a day in 1995!
Bully for you mate......I wouldn't get out my bed for that amount money.
What you do for a job?
Bit rude brov
Great vid but got to say those tyres and your reaction 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
thanks man, hahahah trust me I was like na mate he's mugged me off here
@@Rendervate got a house in Sheffield needs too half rendering as well if you want to put a price in pal social housing work
they are paying for your 25 years just like all trades . A university 3 year grad is a beginner !
Pan crack love it
haha we all been there my man!
£150/180 day rate in Lincoln uk.
£300 a day is fair if your decent ..
It's gonna vary in different parts of the country, you'd get double or triple in London probably
My first job was £165 a week
💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥
my man 💪🏽
You were overpaid mate.
I started on £6.50 a week as an apprentice
Id rather be getting paid to get plastered hows that for a job haha
Werevyou about when plaster bags were 100 wieght, when you used a gauge just putting on hessian skrims ect, no mixers, finish in a massive bucket bike cog on end of metal pole, drag in a tin bath 3 bags of browning a pop, £70 a week thirty five yesrs ago, wait till ya back is fxcked.
Lol wow you had a rough time pal
Kell brooks out of shape
liberties mate hahah
@@Rendervate
Haha OJ mate, its the first video of yours Ive seen but u and your accent reminded me of him. Im a Manc myself 🤣 u from sheff?
@@boostfrog. hahah it’s all good g, no way I’m from Leeds man, over the hill 😉 but we can still be pals I won’t hold that against you being a manc and that lol
@@Rendervate I actually ment leeds, I got muddled up with the accents. Keep up the vids mate 😎 need to start uploading to my channel n try get it to take off. Give me a subscribe 👌
@@Rendervatefunny tht when u revealed your front tyres 🤣😅
Big headed mate.
Thats what you're accoutrements for,
All plasterers are strong in the arm and weak in the head.
£360 a day including VAT. The world has gone mad.
It's absolutely crazy. Building trade is due a reset.
Do you think that’s too cheap?
@Rendervate Leeds Plastering and Rendering Experts
Funny one haha. No mate, I think that is ridiculous.
I get you're good and your job and love work, like I do.
But 360 sheets a day with no risk. Just turning up for work and doing 8 hours. The building industry will not survive, in my opinion. Price work you're in charge of your own destiny. But never would I pay anyone that on day rate.
Maybe I am just a tight ####. Haha
@@Baz1000rpenny pincher
@dicesquaresuk You know the saying. Look after the penny's and the pounds look after themselves 😁
@Baz1000r 😅😅 everyone gotta eat though my boy.
I like the cut of your jib , but personally I think your still not charging enough , I mean those prices don’t put anything in the pension pot . I’m fifty now and trust me the jobs end up taking twice as long. So I charge three or four times more than you and I’m still flat out. Think of the future charge more and pace yourself.
Hey thanks for the comment mate, I am literally always putting them up I think I can get more for my plastering for defo, and my rendering is my biggest money maker, we gross great profit on them
Great video
thanks man