Like a planer they are identicaly, and after that start differences. M-346 is 1000 pound lighter than Y-130, because of using composite materials. Engines in M-346 are 3kN more powerful that Y-130, Max Speed of M-346 is 1255km/h, while Y-130 is 1050 km/h. There are big difference in reliability, specific fuel consumptions and endurance of the engines, too.
it makes sense that Italy and Russia went different ways, the avionics in western planes are different than in russian ones. So there was no other choice but to separate in order to serve both markets. btw. the Ita.M346 main purpose was advanced test plane, Russia use id as fighter! you can't compare it!
In a sense they are twins, like two children of an Italian-Russian couple, one has taken more the Russian side and one more the Italian side. Greetings from Italy.
@@Bialy_1 The moment when they are not similar in any way except outwardly, in the 90s Yakovlev's department needed money and they started looking for them on the side of technical documentation was already there and the initial prototypes too... here, on the contrary, aermacci has 10% of the strength in the Yak-130 project, as well as Yakovlev has 10% of the Italian version...
To all you saying shit, they are the result of a joint venture between Aermachi and Yakolev, Aermachi had 50% of the development and two russian companies shared the other 50% of development. Because of different requirements and the russian part not being able to pay its part (the early 2000s weren´t great years to russian economy), the joint venture was dissolved and each one kept development, no one copied from no one, they developed together at first and then kept separate ways
@@anatoliedubcovetchi8468 simple, it is not the only aircraft: MB-326, MB-339 and M-345 just to list the modern trainer aircraft they projected and built. They have been producing aircraft since 1913, you just demonstrated how ignorant you are to everybody with this comment
Due to disagreements with the Italian partner, the joint development at the final stage stopped. Each of the companies received documentation for the basic version of the future aircraft (glider), after which they released their own versions of the aircraft: Aermacchi built the M-346 TCB, and OKB im. Yakovlev - combat training aircraft Yak-130. L'alenia Aermacchi retained the rights to distribute and market the aircraft worldwide, with the exception of the CIS (including Russia). Externally, the Italian M-346 aircraft is almost identical to the Yak-130, but the Italians installed their own equipment and engines.
it makes sense that Italy and Russia went different ways, the avionics in western planes are different than in russian ones. So there was no other choice but to separate in order to serve both markets. btw. the Ita.M346 main purpose was advanced test plane, Russia use id as fighter! you can't compare it!
This is not a joint project, but a purely Russian project with Italian money. Italians have no brains to invent airplanes and especially engines, because there is no and never was an aircraft design school. The engines on the Italian airplane are Russian, they just named them with their badges.
I am Italian and I love everything that is Italian but I really like the Yak 130 for the additional upper vents. When the plane takes off the vents under the wings are closed and the upper ones open. With this solution we can also take off from improvised runways.
one could say a successful collaboration between Russia and Italy. in fact, it rewards the Italian aircraft because there are commercial agreements. it also combines the advantage of being able to sell a plane to more countries, given that it is a training aircraft and that Italy has the opportunity to sell to the West as well as to the East. A good success.
If Italian didn't provide financing in 90 neither the Yakovlev will be available, nor Yak-130. That's way this was good success for russians. Plus they got new technology in computer design and engineering, which in this moment missing in Russia.
@@jei1703 in truth there is more. We needed gas. Then the European agreements and you give me the gas at an agreed price and we build the pipelines. Then a collaboration began for the lynx, Italy has limited number of production while Russia could make more. Normally a military or civilian vehicle is amortized in costs on the number of production. Then St Microelectronics electronics (France/Italy), supplied technology to Russia. But in any case the ones that supplied the most were the French collaboration with civil aeronautical engines and many other things. Then the Germans if not before the French.
This is not a joint project, but a purely Russian project with Italian money. Italians have no brains to invent airplanes and especially engines, because there is no and never was an aircraft design school. The engines on the Italian airplane are Russian, they just named them with their badges.
@@Kareli_Miklos cerca su Google ignoranti che nn siete altro cercate su Google Leonardo T346 e poi leggete la descrizione stupidi🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 l'hanno rivoluzionato il caccia stupidi eh nn sapete niente di militare, siete degli ignoranti hahahahaahah, dite no perché nn volete collaborare con madre russia
@Beverly Mandahl : and i repeat . No , The Leonardo M-346 is NOT done with Russian collaboration. Yes , derives from an old Arirmacchi - Yakovlev joint project , same project that led to the Yak-130 in Russia, but only the frame is similar . Engine , Radar, avionics , cockpit , even the materials , all is different. BTW would you define the Yak 130 as done with italian collaboration ?
The M-346 is a different aircraft, internally and externally. The wing was moved up the fuselage, having been too low on the Yak-130 and causing horizontal stabiliser blanking at mid to high angle of attack (AoA). The leading-edge extensions (LEX) were reduced and redesigned to give a controllable vortex lift. Two small vertical fins were added at the wing roots to "trap" and control the LEX vortices at AoAs from 25-30° upwards. These LEX vortex controllers ensure the "vortex burst" over the wing at high AoA is symmetrical and controllable. The wing was remodelled to blend into the fuselage for improved span loading. Thickness was optimised from root to tip, and planform, profile and camber were optimised for best lift/drag over the widest possible envelope from short field and subsonic manoeuvre. Obviously avionics are totally different.
Comparing both of them ? Why ? This two aircraft basically the same, the only difference is the avionics, engine and weapon load, it was joint project between Leonardo and Yakovlev.
They are not the same :-) M-346 is 1000 pound lighter than Y-130, because of using composite materials. Engines in M-346 are 3kN more powerful than used by Y-130, Max Speed of M-346 is 1255km/h, while Y-130 is 1050 km/h.
Funy when you consider that there was only 25% of Yakovlev in yak-130 but smehow this plane is yakovlev because? Do you writing comment under Yak-130 videos that it is Aermacchi plane because they were the biggest contributor(50%) to yak-130 project...
È stato progettato in collaborazione tra Italia e Russia, è lo stesso aereo a livello meccanico. È la tecnologia elettronica all' interno che cambia. Cmq per me uno dei migliori aerei in circolazione, a livello di costo, prestazioni.
Motore , radar, meccanica , elettronica , cambia tutto o quasi. Di uguale c'è quasi solo la forma alla fine ,anche i materiali usati sono in buona parte differenti . Cmq si la base è un progetto comune
The Yakovlev Yak-130 (NATO reporting name: Mitten)[8] is a subsonic two-seat advanced jet trainerand light fighter originally developed by Yakovlev and Aermacchi. Sourc: wikipedia
Yak-130 got only 25% of Yakovlev in it when they were designing it together with Italians and if you like somuch earlier models then check older and fully non-Russian Aermacchi MB-339A...
I would buy the Yak 130 because of the inlet above the wings. The inlets allow for better take off needs in battlefield conditions. The engines can always be replaced with more powerful engines of similar dimensions.
sorry you are wrong m-346 this is a new aircraft it is made from newer composites more advanced avionics there are modifications with a radar refueling in the air this is a completely different aircraft just there is a similarity
I hardly learnt anything new about the Yak-130 or the Leonardo M-346. Both are virtually identical aircraft made in a joint venture between Russia and Italy. 👎
The only country in the world is Russia, which can independently design and build airplanes of any class, both civil and military. In Boeing, half of the equipment and components come from different countries of the world. Airbus is made by four European countries, and only Russia designs and builds airplanes, as well as spaceships independently. Russia is a great country with great designers and engineers!
The italian aermacchi and russian yakovlev is collab and allied of italy Leonardo aermacchi and yakovlev As progected and modified the T346 ok ok the Russia is not copied
The moment when the sketches and prototypes were ready already in the 90s Yakovlev had no money for further production, so they began to cooperate with Italy... Just for the sake of money, the first flight of the Yak-130 in 1993, the M-346 in 2008
@@wertushka2715 in the 1993 there was the Yak/Aermacchi Yak/Aem 130 that was not a normal Yak 130. Indeed the first Yak 130 flow for the first time in the 2009, five years after the M346
No Italy didn't leave, it stole the design and ran and sold it as its own to the west and western friendly nations like isreal .....turkey will do the same once it gets the right to locally produce the S300
The joint venture was broken (not "left") because Aermacchi (that's not "Italy") wanted a pure advanced trainer (training time on last generation fighters costs A LOT. To use a trainer whose performances are very close to the real thing saves a lot of money, so countries that use last generation fighters are very interested in this kind of aircrafts ). Yakovlev wanted an half-trainer half poor-man's-fighter to sell to nations that couldn't afford advanced fighters.
Як-130 а не 30. Лучший. Потому что сделан так что можно менять настройки систем управления. И тренировать лётчиков разных самолётов. +сам самолёт классный в управлении и мощный по вооружению.
A certified copy that flew some 5 years earlier and it actually was a joint programme untill the two companies split, still the Yak is infamous for crushing and the M 346 isn't. Why lie man?
@@carta8399 Do not lie or, at least do not speak so we could not see how stupid you are. www.yak.ru/eng/firm/art_switch.php?art=4 Yak design bureau finished preliminary design in 1992 and with that design entered into cooperation with Italians. The Yak-130 flew in 1996, the M-346 in 2004. So, tell me... how Italian M-346 could flew some 5 years earlier? Next, the M-346 also has accidents with a lost plane. Why lie man?
@@jerromedrakejr9332 First thing firts, calm down kid, speak like this to your friends. Second thing, I was referring to this: Yak 130: According to its chief designer Konstantin Popovich, during a testing phase that ended in December 2009, the plane was tested with "all airborne weapons with a weight of up to 500 kg that are in service in the Russian Air Force" Source: Pyadushkin, Maxim (16 February 2010). "Reprogrammed Trainer - Yak-130 jet trainer is cleared for service". Russia & CIS Observer. Archived from the original on 28 July 2011. Retrieved 11 September 2010. Quoted on the wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130#cite_note-ato_yak130-16 M-346: The first M-346 prototype rolled out on 7 June 2003, and conducted its maiden flight on 15 July 2004. In 2004, a contract for the development of a full-mission simulator for the M-346 was awarded to CAE. Source: CAE wins contract for the development and supply of Alenia Aermacchi's M-346 simulator (press release), 2004, archived from the original on 2006-03-24. Quoted on the wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_Aermacchi_M-346_Master#cite_note-9 End of the joint venture: In 2000, differences in priorities between the two firms had brought about an end to the partnership, with each developing the aircraft independently. The Italian version was named M-346; Yakovlev received US$77 million for technical documents of the aircraft. Yakovlev would be able to sell the aircraft to countries such those in the Commonwealth of Independent States, India, Slovakia and Algeria. Aermacchi would be able to sell to NATO countries, among others. Source: "Russian military trainer strategy falls into place; the selection of the Yak-130 marks an important step towards replacing the country's aging fleet of L-39Cs. Things are moving in the simulator business, too". Interavia Business & Technology. ISSN 1423-3215. Archived from the original on 24 September 2015. Retrieved 22 August 2015 - via HighBeam Research. Quoted on the same Wikipedia page of the Yak 130 Evidently I msiunderstood because the 2009 date referred to the light attack version of the Yak, not the trainer, product of the joint venture between Yak and AEM. It was my understanding that the date of the first flight you are referring to wasn't the Yak 130 but the first prototype of the Yak/AEM 130, named Yak 130/D, product of the joint venture between Yak and Aermacchi I'm referring to this: "After having entered discussions in 1992, in 1993 it agreed with the Italian company Aermacchi to jointly develop the plane, which now became Yak/AEM-130; Aermacchi would be responsible for the project's financial and technical support. The first prototype, dubbed Yak-130D, was built by Sokol at Nizhny Novgorod, Russia, and was publicly unveiled in June 1995. The aircraft made its first flight on 25 April 1996 from Zhukovsky Airport at the hands of Yakovlev chief test pilot Andrey Sinitsyn.
@@jerromedrakejr9332 So, at the end of the day, petty insults aside, the M 346 isn't a copy of the Yak 130 since both planes are the product of an indipendent development of the prototype that was born from the joint venture between the two manufacturers.
@@carta8399 It was an Italian-Russian collaboration project for an adestramento plane then leonardo comes out of the collaboration Because the Russian version did not respect the safety requirements born of the aircraft and each continuous with its own version
@@Hidden_Trump Actually, the J-15 is the only one of the three to be equipped with afterburner, hence the longer nozzle and different rear fuselage. The M-346 does have a 1470 kph speed as a never-exceed one (above which the airframe will suffer damage, which I actually believe is roughtly the same between the two aircraft as they have nearly identical aerodynamics), but it can actually get to that (or even just supersonic) only with the help of a dive. The maximum speed it can reach by engine thrust alone is around 1250 (780 mph), higher than the one claimed in the video (maybe a typographical error, as it claims 680). According to what I dug up, the M-346 has slightly more powerful engines (6300 lbs thrust against 5510) than the Yak-140, thus it is simply natural that it is the faster of the two non-afterburning ones.
@@TheSergioTurbo l do not think there is a great demand for Yak-130 in Russia now. During Soviet times there were many L-29 and L-39 jets. And they were mostly manned by army conscripts of 19 y.o. All of them had attended air clubs and flied by gliders during their schooltime. Education and training was free of charge, and fuel was free too. At 18 y.o. they joined the army, got initial training for 1 year. And during their last year in army they flied by jets. It was a joy jet for teens in the old days
@@MrUomoZucca the original design is Russian. It was developed in 1991 as the Yakovlev Yak-UTS. This original design was developed and completed to the Yak-130 in September 1993. Yakovlev needed a partner to develop and build the aircraft, and Aermacchi joined Yakovlev as a partner that same year and the aircraft became the Yak/AEM-130, with the Italians providing financial and technical support. The original design is Russian.
Look at the M340 project of 1986, it' s almost identical but with only one, bigger, engine. The plane was developed in cooperation and the result was the Aer-Yak 13 of 1996, the common prototype, then the two builders adapted their own designs to different technology/market/military requirements, Yak is more simple and cheap, more focused to dual role in third world countries, M 346 has higher training performances. And Yak 130 don't reach 960 mph .
So the Yak-130 is superior in every facet, specially in the hard points (8) compared to 4, since the Yak' s wingtips can also be used for AA missiles or ECMs.
Simply Aermacchi wanted a pure advanced trainer (training time on last generation fighters costs A LOT. To use a trainer whose performances are very close to the real thing saves a lot of money, so countries that use last generation fighters are very interested in this kind of aircrafts ). Yakovlev wanted an half-trainer half poor-man's-fighter to sell to nations that couldn't afford advanced fighters.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Yakovlev got whole 25% in thatproject and Aermacchi share was 50%... but yea, lets forget about it and not call yak-130->Aermacchi...
You are wrong. M346 can mount a total of 9 pilons. And it has better tecnology, better engine, better weapons (the russian one is not even able to mount AGM) ecc
we built and designed the first model with the Russians (it was a collaboration), then the project dissolved as we aimed to use composite materials and more powerful engines, while they wanted to build a cheaper version to sell it en masse to other countries ...the Yak-130 is literally the cheapest and least powerful version of the M-346...
Aermacchi MB-339A... итальянский учебно-боевой самолёт и лёгкий штурмовик, разработанный для замены MB-326. Совершил первый полёт 12 августа 1976 года. Серийно производится с 1978 года, состоит на вооружении ВВС Италии, поставлялся в 8 стран мира. Самолёты этой серии стоят на вооружении пилотажной группы итальянских ВВС Frecce Tricolori.
Italian aircraft is the Italian version of the Russian Yak-130, that's a FACT... Name at least one Italian designer who participated in the development of the Yak-130, they are absolutely not, absolutely all the developers of this aircraft, all Russian, created it in Russia, and, long before the arrival of the Italian company, the majority has already been created... But, for the implementation of the practical part of the project, the money was already lacking, after the collapse of the Union, it was a difficult financial situation... The Russians agreed to provide all the technical documentation in exchange for financial support for the project... The Italians wanted to develop themselves, but the Yak-130 project was better, and in fact, the Italians just bought the Russian project... Requirements for such aircraft in Russia were too strict, so in Russia, immediately created a very reliable and durable aircraft that can fight, and which is very easy to repair, after the battle, at the same time, it is easy to maintain and maintain, as a training... Russia created a combat Training aircraft!!! In Europe, the requirements for aviation are weak, they are much easier, the Italians needed only training aircraft, combat aircraft were too tough and durable, according to European standards for training aircraft, Russian aircraft had excessive characteristics... Russian refused to do plastic planes, because after the battle, damaged after shelling, was incompatible with the repair, shot composite parts lose their rigidity, they cannot be repaired, composite parts, after firing, have to be replaced entirely... For a combat aircraft, this is unacceptable, the repair should be quick and cheap, and the composite aircraft can be repaired either long and expensive, or in the factory... The Italians wanted to have only training, so they left the project... By the way, the basic version of the M-346, called the Yak-130D, is a version of the aircraft at the time of Italy's exit from this project... over the next few years, the Italians have replaced some parts of the fuselage on the composite to reduce weight, put similar power to their engines, European avionics and began to produce as the M-346... In Russia, we continued to improve this aircraft, continued to experiment with various aviation alloys that could ensure the strength and survivability of the aircraft in real combat, while also reducing the weight, while developing weapons control systems, and electronics, for training simulations, various types of aircraft... As a result, Russia has created a combat Training aircraft, which, among other things, having a fully metal body, has a mass similar to the Italian, semi-composite M-346... By the way, since Italy decided to withdraw from the project, before the Russians created a full version of their aircraft, Yakovlev Design Bureau needed additional funding, therefore, the Ministry of defense, allowed to sell technical documentation on the Yak-38 and Yak-141,the Americans (1995), who created on the basis of the Yak-141, its stealth version of the f-35... Also, to increase funding at the final stages, it was decided to attract the Chinese... In the early 2000s, with American and Chinese money, it was possible to completely create an aircraft that fully meets the strict requirements of the Russian Ministry of Defense... In return, the Chinese received documentation and access to some Yak-130 technologies, as well as Russian designers, helped them to create a Chinese version of the aircraft... Hongdu L-15-Chinese combat Training aircraft, clone of the Yak-130...But, the Chinese wanted a plane with wider combat capabilities, so the Chinese put more powerful engines, these are the same engines as the Yak-130, but in the version with the afterburner, the speed increased by 1.5 times, and the oxygen station allows you to fly at an altitude of 16 km... Italian M-346 costs about 30 million dollars... Chinese Hongdu L-15, about $ 10 million... Russian Yak-130, the export value of about 15 million dollars, in Russia it is sold for about 7-7. 5 million dollars...
@@MrUomoZucca the English version of Wikipedia is very circumcised, a lot of information is taken out of context... in the English version, the history of the Yak-130, begins in 1991... In real life, the history of this aircraft began in the late 1980s... Anyway, my first flight, the Yak-130 made April 25, 1996... Turn on the brain, you really think that a completely new aircraft, you can design, create several prototypes, blow them in the wind tunnel, create engines and initial electronics... For 2.5 years...???!!!) You seriously..???) According to your logic, the cooperation began only in 1993 year, and the plane flew in the early 1996, that is, you really think that the aircraft was created for 2 years, and a few months...???)) This is nonsense... Here's a clipping, from Russian Wikipedia, it's not in the English version... Competition for the creation of a new UBS was announced in the late 1980s. The new machine was to become a universal twin-engine aircraft for training pilots, from the initial flight training and ending with the features of combat use, as well as to maintain flight skills in combat units. In the future, these aircraft should completely replace the outdated fleet of Czechoslovak aircraft L-39, according to a rough estimate, this should happen within 10-13 years, and become the main combat training unit of the Russian air force. Many of the L-39s used in Russia as aircraft for training cadets have long flown their resource. That is why in the late 1980s in the USSR was announced a tender for the development of training aircraft. Serial production of the L-39 was completed in 1999, and The l-159, a modern version of the aircraft, was not ordered by the Ministry of defence of the Russian Federation due to the change in the geopolitical orientation of the Czech Republic and its transition to the "probable enemy"camp. Russian air force chose two projects-Yak-130 and MiG-at. For the development of the new aircraft required large funds, which had neither the developers nor the Ministry of defense of Russia, so the aircraft were designed in conjunction with foreign firms - Yak-130 with Italian Alenia Aermacchi, and MiG-at - with French companies. Further... In the description of the M-346 clearly written: the basic model Yak-130D. Moreover, the modern appearance of the M-346, it is an exact copy of the base model Yak-130D, the Italians did not change anything in the shape of the aircraft, as they considered the design complete... the changes affected the materials used in structures, composites and titanium, reducing the weight by 700 kg, relative to the base model... Russian, considered the design unfinished, so I continued to improve the aerodynamics, if you look closely, you can find a large number of differences from the base model... As a result, the Russian aircraft is completely assembled from reliable metal alloys,but by weight, it is equal to, with a semi-composite M-346... Of course, the engines and electronics are different... In Russia, all components of military equipment are created in Russia... In Italy, all different countries... You can count the adaptation of the engine and electronic components, at the expense of the Italians... Although, if I'm not mistaken, the wheel suspension, the Italians slightly changed... In the Chinese L-15, used drawings of the finished Yak-130, therefore, in contrast to the Italian, this aircraft looks more like the Yak-130, at the same time, this aircraft uses components made of composite materials, because it uses a forced version of the engine, which was first produced in Ukraine, this engine is heavier and longer than the basic Russian engine, therefore, the rear of the aircraft is somewhat similar to the Yak-130D and M-346, but has large engine nozzles
@@СергейПетров-я8й5л Do You really think that there were no trainers (/light attack) aircraft in Aermacchi drawers? Have You ever took a look, for example at a MB-339, for example PAN version that is very easy to find online. Are the ones without the tip wing tanks. Look at the shape, tail position vs .alerons, ... ... Than there were the projects with different varianmts MB-340, MB-341, the ATX, ...
In this case Yak-130 proper name is "Yak/AEM-130"... as it was not a "Russian" plane. And you can also find older Aermacchi planes like for example MB-339A that you can easly claim as source of ideas for the Yak/AEM-130...
Italian Aermacchi got the biggest 50% in Yak-130 design. Yakovlev share was only 25%... And fully Italian plane is ofc superior to cheap half baked Yak-130.
The Yak-130 seam to be more polyvalent than the M-346 in the light fighter/strike jet role, with the integration of multiple type of weapons (Air to air / Air to ground) and 8 hardpoint instead of 4 for the M-346. On the other hand the finishes of the skin looks better, more polish, on the M-346, I wonder how it impacts the RCS.
It was a joint venture, at the end it's the same plane but it's modified in base of the necessities of the company. Italy and Russia made a lot of joint venture
M-346 FA ( Fighter Attack ) have 7 hardpoint and better integration of multiple type of weapons than " basic " M-346 FT, because is a jet trainer and dont need a lot of weapon . BTW M-346 FA is more modern than Yak-130 ( yes original project is a join venture Yak-Airmacchi ) and have better avionics .
@@sleepynarf1546 t50 is a jack of all trades lower end fighter attack... These are specialized aircraft... So they do better attack runs that T50. T50s are not really gonna be any good as a fighter anyway agaunst the competition F16s or mig29, so might aswell conpare it as an attack aircraft
There are obvious differences like comparing a Fiat with a Lada: looks the same but the Italian is the real deal while the Russian it’s just a bad copy.
That speed had been reached in a shallow dive. It's not its max horizontal speed. It had been done to show that the trainer can be used to teach supersonic flight without using afterburners.
@@neutronalchemist3241 in reality the M346 reached Mach 1.15 during levelled flight at 30.000 on December 8 2008 during a test flight performed by the Italian airforce
@@giannizen3775 I've never read that speed had ben reached in levelled flight (if you have a source, I'll gladly stand corrected) infact the aircraft is always described as "transonic" (capable to exceed the speed of sound) but not as capable to supercruise (capable to exceed the speed of sound using only its own engines without afterburners).
Italians have always done it better, from design,cars,bikes, yachts,ships,boats,planes, helicopters,design, fashion, architecture, satellite,there is nothing italians can't do, say whatever you want and keep ur self being ignorant, lak130 and Leonardo m346 are son of a joint venture btw Russia and Italy the difference is that while the m346 is a Ferrari the yak130 is a Lada. Good bless Italy and Russia
I'd go Yak 130 every time. Everything Russian is dual purpose. Crap roads as improvised airstrips? Close air support? Can hook and jab with fighters? Very sad politics got in the way of the Macchi-Yakovlev.
Actually is Yak -130 not a 30 . This Yak -130 programme in the beginning was with 2 companies. Russian Yak and Italian, after while Italians withdraw from the project and living Yak to develop on his own. But some how they kept some paperworks from the project. That is why the Italian model has some similarities with Yak-130 but both planes are completely two deferent jets .
Enough to know this. Yak -30: first flight - April 25, 1996 start of operation - February 2010 Leonardo M-346: first flight - July 15, 2004 (8 years after the Yak-130) the beginning of operation -15 November 2011
Wrong, the development outside from the general studies already performed by Yak started officially in 1993 with both the company already in it, and both company put in the project their own founds 50% each, both companies gained a lot in the cooperation, Aermacchi got access to the preliminary studies on the aerodynamic (we don't have to confuse the fact that the aircraft looks similar but in the end they have many differences, every paper plane looks the same but some can fly and others can't..) Yak got the founds to start the development (because in that time the economic situation was really bad in Russia) and also access to the know how of one of the most successful producer of trainers in the west, the plane that flew in 1996 (?) was a co produced and was named yak-aem-130 with both companies name on it, we don't know why the partnership ended in 2000, some says because the Russian side was unable to put their part of the money in it, other says that were technical reason behind it, with the Russian side that wanted a simpler (cheaper) airplane in terms of technologies and the Italian side pushing for a high end product, that make sense considering that Aermacchi was pointing already at Eurofighter/JSF (at the time) while having the A339CD selling on the market, so no rush the 346 was meant for the Eurotrainer program and maybe the USA competition, that's also why the 346 is considerable lighter (with more or less the same size) of the yak 130, the construction tech is at least comparable with the eurofighter with large use of composite, I don't meant to say that one is better than the other, I meant just to say that they are different aircraft with different technologies but most import different philosophy, before someone start to rant about the fact that I said that the m346 is more advanced than the Yak 130 (in certain terms at least) I just want to remember that a 346 cost around 20M dollars WAY more than a Yak 130 (almost like a mig 29!) those money are going into something! I think that is stupid to negate the great aerodynamic studies from Yak and the general idea of a platform, but saying that Italian stolen the design or copied something is unfair, without the Italian moneys and the Italian peoples working along sides with the Russian both the planes today would have not been here most probably... so put away your nationalism.. is old like your aircraft fleet.. P.s. source: www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1993/1993%20-%201567.PDF as you can see at the time the Aircraft was a wannabe.. it started with the Italians.. deal with it..
@UCujPj1VrZnaTP1YIVzODKLw really? the wing of a 346 is half the section of a 130 is it really a copy? do you think they fly the same way? I repeat Yak have done the general design study before the cooperation started, for the rest was a paper plane, I don't think there is a single peace/quote in common in the two aircraft and the flight performance will be quite different in a similar spectrum.
Well, since that name of the prototype was YAK-AEM 130D (You forgot a part of the name). If I would be "bad" I would say that the aircraft looks like two engines evolution of an Aermacchi MB-339A (the ones without wing tip tanks, like, for example PAN version). Just look to the shape of frontal part and the rear tail configuration. Than search for example project MB-340, MB-341, ...
Basically Italians having used the Russian Yakovlev to deliver the best of their aircraft design when the Russians were weak and poor, broke up with them at the final stage to sell and market it globally with better engines and components from the West. Clever move.
In 1992, Aermacchi signed a cooperation agreement with Yakovlev to provide financial and technical support for the new trainer that the firm had been developing since 1991 for the Russian Air Force in competition with the Mikoyan MiG-AT. Aermacchi also gained the right to modify and market the aircraft for the Western market.
@@doc7440 And Aermacchi had also its own project, already in design phase in the '80 like MB-340, MB-341 and others. To remember the MB-339A, take alook at general design, for example front and rear part, convert to two engines ...
advance trainer eto which is meron na tayo nyan yung fa-50. mas lamang pa nga ang fa50 kasi supersonic while ang mga eto ay subsonic planes lamang. although mas cheaper pa ang yak 130 @ 18$m at t-346 @ 20$m compared sa 30M$ ng variant ng fa50.
This needs to be re-done with the Hongdu L-15 also added in to the competition. Cheaper than the Italian, same price as the Russian and higher speed and higher rate of climb than both.
Italian aircraft is the Italian version of the Russian Yak-130, that's a FACT... Name at least one Italian designer who participated in the development of the Yak-130, they are absolutely not, absolutely all the developers of this aircraft, all Russian, created it in Russia, and, long before the arrival of the Italian company, the majority has already been created... But, for the implementation of the practical part of the project, the money was already lacking, after the collapse of the Union, it was a difficult financial situation... The Russians agreed to provide all the technical documentation in exchange for financial support for the project... The Italians wanted to develop themselves, but the Yak-130 project was better, and in fact, the Italians just bought the Russian project... Requirements for such aircraft in Russia were too strict, so in Russia, immediately created a very reliable and durable aircraft that can fight, and which is very easy to repair, after the battle, at the same time, it is easy to maintain and maintain, as a training... Russia created a combat Training aircraft!!! In Europe, the requirements for aviation are weak, they are much easier, the Italians needed only training aircraft, combat aircraft were too tough and durable, according to European standards for training aircraft, Russian aircraft had excessive characteristics... Russian refused to do plastic planes, because after the battle, damaged after shelling, was incompatible with the repair, shot composite parts lose their rigidity, they cannot be repaired, composite parts, after firing, have to be replaced entirely... For a combat aircraft, this is unacceptable, the repair should be quick and cheap, and the composite aircraft can be repaired either long and expensive, or in the factory... The Italians wanted to have only training, so they left the project... By the way, the basic version of the M-346, called the Yak-130D, is a version of the aircraft at the time of Italy's exit from this project... over the next few years, the Italians have replaced some parts of the fuselage on the composite to reduce weight, put similar power to their engines, European avionics and began to produce as the M-346... In Russia, we continued to improve this aircraft, continued to experiment with various aviation alloys that could ensure the strength and survivability of the aircraft in real combat, while also reducing the weight, while developing weapons control systems, and electronics, for training simulations, various types of aircraft... As a result, Russia has created a combat Training aircraft, which, among other things, having a fully metal body, has a mass similar to the Italian, semi-composite M-346... By the way, since Italy decided to withdraw from the project, before the Russians created a full version of their aircraft, Yakovlev Design Bureau needed additional funding, therefore, the Ministry of defense, allowed to sell technical documentation on the Yak-38 and Yak-141,the Americans (1995), who created on the basis of the Yak-141, its stealth version of the f-35... Also, to increase funding at the final stages, it was decided to attract the Chinese... In the early 2000s, with American and Chinese money, it was possible to completely create an aircraft that fully meets the strict requirements of the Russian Ministry of Defense... In return, the Chinese received documentation and access to some Yak-130 technologies, as well as Russian designers, helped them to create a Chinese version of the aircraft... Hongdu L-15-Chinese combat Training aircraft, clone of the Yak-130...But, the Chinese wanted a plane with wider combat capabilities, so the Chinese put more powerful engines, these are the same engines as the Yak-130, but in the version with the afterburner, the speed increased by 1.5 times, and the oxygen station allows you to fly at an altitude of 16 km... Italian M-346 costs about 30 million dollars... Chinese Hongdu L-15, about $ 10 million... Russian Yak-130, the export value of about 15 million dollars, in Russia it is sold for about 7-7. 5 million dollars...
@@MrUomoZucca the English version of Wikipedia is very circumcised, a lot of information is taken out of context... in the English version, the history of the Yak-130, begins in 1991... In real life, the history of this aircraft began in the late 1980s... Anyway, my first flight, the Yak-130 made April 25, 1996... Turn on the brain, you really think that a completely new aircraft, you can design, create several prototypes, blow them in the wind tunnel, create engines and initial electronics... For 2.5 years...???!!!) You seriously..???) According to your logic, the cooperation began only in 1993 year, and the plane flew in the early 1996, that is, you really think that the aircraft was created for 2 years, and a few months...???)) This is nonsense... Here's a clipping, from Russian Wikipedia, it's not in the English version... Competition for the creation of a new UBS was announced in the late 1980s. The new machine was to become a universal twin-engine aircraft for training pilots, from the initial flight training and ending with the features of combat use, as well as to maintain flight skills in combat units. In the future, these aircraft should completely replace the outdated fleet of Czechoslovak aircraft L-39, according to a rough estimate, this should happen within 10-13 years, and become the main combat training unit of the Russian air force. Many of the L-39s used in Russia as aircraft for training cadets have long flown their resource. That is why in the late 1980s in the USSR was announced a tender for the development of training aircraft. Serial production of the L-39 was completed in 1999, and The l-159, a modern version of the aircraft, was not ordered by the Ministry of defence of the Russian Federation due to the change in the geopolitical orientation of the Czech Republic and its transition to the "probable enemy"camp. Russian air force chose two projects-Yak-130 and MiG-at. For the development of the new aircraft required large funds, which had neither the developers nor the Ministry of defense of Russia, so the aircraft were designed in conjunction with foreign firms - Yak-130 with Italian Alenia Aermacchi, and MiG-at - with French companies. Further... In the description of the M-346 clearly written: the basic model Yak-130D. Moreover, the modern appearance of the M-346, it is an exact copy of the base model Yak-130D, the Italians did not change anything in the shape of the aircraft, as they considered the design complete... the changes affected the materials used in structures, composites and titanium, reducing the weight by 700 kg, relative to the base model... Russian, considered the design unfinished, so I continued to improve the aerodynamics, if you look closely, you can find a large number of differences from the base model... As a result, the Russian aircraft is completely assembled from reliable metal alloys,but by weight, it is equal to, with a semi-composite M-346... Of course, the engines and electronics are different... In Russia, all components of military equipment are created in Russia... In Italy, all different countries... You can count the adaptation of the engine and electronic components, at the expense of the Italians... Although, if I'm not mistaken, the wheel suspension, the Italians slightly changed... In the Chinese L-15, used drawings of the finished Yak-130, therefore, in contrast to the Italian, this aircraft looks more like the Yak-130, at the same time, this aircraft uses components made of composite materials, because it uses a forced version of the engine, which was first produced in Ukraine, this engine is heavier and longer than the basic Russian engine, therefore, the rear of the aircraft is somewhat similar to the Yak-130D and M-346, but has large engine nozzles
Yak 130 Maximum speed: 1,060 km/h (660 mph ) Cruise speed: 887 km/h (551 mph ) M 346 Maximum speed: 1,255 km/h ( 780 mph ) Cruiser speed 1,059 km/h ( 658 mph )
![IL PICCOLO ED ECONOMICO JET ITALIANO [S211/ M345]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-3BkIBcnMRA/mqdefault.jpg)
Like a planer they are identicaly, and after that start differences. M-346 is 1000 pound lighter than Y-130, because of using composite materials. Engines in M-346 are 3kN more powerful that Y-130, Max Speed of M-346 is 1255km/h, while Y-130 is 1050 km/h. There are big difference in reliability, specific fuel consumptions and endurance of the engines, too.
Yes,Bangladesh bought 18 yak from rasia and 3 crushed in 2 years.
@TASIN ISLAM
Yes stupid people can't control this plane
It must smart people to control this plane right way
@@tasinislam447 due to a mid-air collision. perhaps the pilots were not experienced enough
it makes sense that Italy and Russia went different ways, the avionics in western planes are different than in russian ones. So there was no other choice but to separate in order to serve both markets. btw. the Ita.M346 main purpose was advanced test plane, Russia use id as fighter! you can't compare it!
@@tasinislam447 dx
In a sense they are twins, like two children of an Italian-Russian couple, one has taken more the Russian side and one more the Italian side.
Greetings from Italy.
There was 25% of Yakovlev in yak-130 and 50% of Aermacchi... so your theory is false.
@@Bialy_1 The moment when they are not similar in any way except outwardly, in the 90s Yakovlev's department needed money and they started looking for them on the side of technical documentation was already there and the initial prototypes too... here, on the contrary, aermacci has 10% of the strength in the Yak-130 project, as well as Yakovlev has 10% of the Italian version...
To all you saying shit, they are the result of a joint venture between Aermachi and Yakolev, Aermachi had 50% of the development and two russian companies shared the other 50% of development. Because of different requirements and the russian part not being able to pay its part (the early 2000s weren´t great years to russian economy), the joint venture was dissolved and each one kept development, no one copied from no one, they developed together at first and then kept separate ways
of course, whith the Russian air engineering and
avionic.. it's Easy to make a aircraft..
@@anatoliedubcovetchi8468 which part of 50/50 didn't you get? Btw, Russian avionics, lol
if Aermachi can be able to make aircrafts, so why this is the only one project hwo they have?
@@anatoliedubcovetchi8468 simple, it is not the only aircraft: MB-326, MB-339 and M-345 just to list the modern trainer aircraft they projected and built. They have been producing aircraft since 1913, you just demonstrated how ignorant you are to everybody with this comment
@@anatoliedubcovetchi8468 Aermachi is involved in different projects, for Leonardo, from 6 gen fighter to many others!!
Those sibling airplanes might be the cutest military jets in the sky today.
like fiat 500
agree, like Fiat 124 and Lada back in the days
Due to disagreements with the Italian partner, the joint development at the final stage stopped. Each of the companies received documentation for the basic version of the future aircraft (glider), after which they released their own versions of the aircraft: Aermacchi built the M-346 TCB, and OKB im. Yakovlev - combat training aircraft Yak-130. L'alenia Aermacchi retained the rights to distribute and market the aircraft worldwide, with the exception of the CIS (including Russia).
Externally, the Italian M-346 aircraft is almost identical to the Yak-130, but the Italians installed their own equipment and engines.
it makes sense that Italy and Russia went different ways, the avionics in western planes are different than in russian ones. So there was no other choice but to separate in order to serve both markets. btw. the Ita.M346 main purpose was advanced test plane, Russia use id as fighter! you can't compare it!
This is not a joint project, but a purely Russian project with Italian money. Italians have no brains to invent airplanes and especially engines, because there is no and never was an aircraft design school. The engines on the Italian airplane are Russian, they just named them with their badges.
I am Italian and I love everything that is Italian but I really like the Yak 130 for the additional upper vents. When the plane takes off the vents under the wings are closed and the upper ones open. With this solution we can also take off from improvised runways.
Certo tutta l'avionica fatta dai Russi, e svenduta perché nelli anni '90 non avevano i soldi per mandare avanti i progetti da soli.. 😢
one could say a successful collaboration between Russia and Italy. in fact, it rewards the Italian aircraft because there are commercial agreements. it also combines the advantage of being able to sell a plane to more countries, given that it is a training aircraft and that Italy has the opportunity to sell to the West as well as to the East. A good success.
If Italian didn't provide financing in 90 neither the Yakovlev will be available, nor Yak-130.
That's way this was good success for russians. Plus they got new technology in computer design and engineering, which in this moment missing in Russia.
@@jei1703 in truth there is more. We needed gas. Then the European agreements and you give me the gas at an agreed price and we build the pipelines. Then a collaboration began for the lynx, Italy has limited number of production while Russia could make more. Normally a military or civilian vehicle is amortized in costs on the number of production. Then St Microelectronics electronics (France/Italy), supplied technology to Russia. But in any case the ones that supplied the most were the French collaboration with civil aeronautical engines and many other things. Then the Germans if not before the French.
This is not a joint project, but a purely Russian project with Italian money. Italians have no brains to invent airplanes and especially engines, because there is no and never was an aircraft design school. The engines on the Italian airplane are Russian, they just named them with their badges.
The Leonardo M-346 is done with Russian collaboration
no
No, they've done it by their self. BUT , the aircraft was developed with Russian collaboration.
No
@@Kareli_Miklos cerca su Google ignoranti che nn siete altro cercate su Google Leonardo T346 e poi leggete la descrizione stupidi🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 l'hanno rivoluzionato il caccia stupidi eh nn sapete niente di militare, siete degli ignoranti hahahahaahah, dite no perché nn volete collaborare con madre russia
@Beverly Mandahl : and i repeat . No , The Leonardo M-346 is NOT done with Russian collaboration.
Yes ,
derives from an old Arirmacchi - Yakovlev joint project , same project that led to the Yak-130 in Russia, but
only the frame is similar .
Engine , Radar, avionics , cockpit , even the materials , all is different.
BTW
would you define the Yak 130 as done with italian collaboration ?
It's a same aircraft with different flag, after cold war Russia and Italy are closed Comrades, they've been in many project ever since.
Compare using same units please, could you? At any rate the difference is in the engine and avionics for the matter
Aside from the emblem. The Yak 130 have wingtip hardpoints for missiles...
The M-346 is a different aircraft, internally and externally. The wing was moved up the fuselage, having been too low on the Yak-130 and causing horizontal stabiliser blanking at mid to high angle of attack (AoA). The leading-edge extensions (LEX) were reduced and redesigned to give a controllable vortex lift. Two small vertical fins were added at the wing roots to "trap" and control the LEX vortices at AoAs from 25-30° upwards. These LEX vortex controllers ensure the "vortex burst" over the wing at high AoA is symmetrical and controllable. The wing was remodelled to blend into the fuselage for improved span loading. Thickness was optimised from root to tip, and planform, profile and camber were optimised for best lift/drag over the widest possible envelope from short field and subsonic manoeuvre. Obviously avionics are totally different.
Comparing both of them ? Why ? This two aircraft basically the same, the only difference is the avionics, engine and weapon load, it was joint project between Leonardo and Yakovlev.
яковлев поставил свою модель в 95 году а через 10 лет итальянцы её выкрали-выкидыши-я разлюбил итальяшек-а ты с испании???????????
@@Андрей-г9ц8о English please !
They are not the same :-) M-346 is 1000 pound lighter than Y-130, because of using composite materials. Engines in M-346 are 3kN more powerful than used by Y-130, Max Speed of M-346 is 1255km/h, while Y-130 is 1050 km/h.
So Aermacchi MB-339A is the same as Yak-130?! Why compare them and claim that Russians invented anything good?!
The m346 is the yak 130. The company had financial difficulties and sold/shared the design within the Italians to fund the development of the yak 130.
Funy when you consider that there was only 25% of Yakovlev in yak-130 but smehow this plane is yakovlev because?
Do you writing comment under Yak-130 videos that it is Aermacchi plane because they were the biggest contributor(50%) to yak-130 project...
È stato progettato in collaborazione tra Italia e Russia, è lo stesso aereo a livello meccanico. È la tecnologia elettronica all' interno che cambia. Cmq per me uno dei migliori aerei in circolazione, a livello di costo, prestazioni.
Motore , radar, meccanica , elettronica , cambia tutto o quasi.
Di uguale c'è quasi solo la forma alla fine ,anche i materiali usati sono in buona parte differenti . Cmq si la base è un progetto comune
The Yakovlev Yak-130 (NATO reporting name: Mitten)[8] is a subsonic two-seat advanced jet trainerand light fighter originally developed by Yakovlev and Aermacchi.
Sourc: wikipedia
not quite
@@ПавелЗайцев-м3е from what i can remember the difference are the weapons systems and avionics
And engines.
M346 can reach supersonic speed
Yak-130 got only 25% of Yakovlev in it when they were designing it together with Italians and if you like somuch earlier models then check older and fully non-Russian Aermacchi MB-339A...
I would buy the Yak 130 because of the inlet above the wings. The inlets allow for better take off needs in battlefield conditions. The engines can always be replaced with more powerful engines of similar dimensions.
sorry you are wrong m-346 this is a new aircraft it is made from newer composites more advanced avionics there are modifications with a radar refueling in the air this is a completely different aircraft just there is a similarity
I hardly learnt anything new about the Yak-130 or the Leonardo M-346. Both are virtually identical aircraft made in a joint venture between Russia and Italy. 👎
The only differences are about avionics and the M346’s capability of reaching supersonic speed in levelled flight, unlike its Russian counterpart
True story;)
I found it 2 years ago comment
@@giannizen3775 please, review the project history in more details…. 😉
Yak-130 is just updated Aermacchi MB-339A...
your measurement units are all over the place , make up your mind imperial or metric
Looks like the little brother of the SU-25.
Not at all.it has zero to do with Su-25 ..even aerodynamic conception is different.
Yak-130*
The only country in the world is Russia, which can independently design and build airplanes of any class, both civil and military. In Boeing, half of the equipment and components come from different countries of the world. Airbus is made by four European countries, and only Russia designs and builds airplanes, as well as spaceships independently. Russia is a great country with great designers and engineers!
The italian aermacchi and russian yakovlev is collab and allied of italy Leonardo aermacchi and yakovlev As progected and modified the T346 ok ok the Russia is not copied
The moment when the sketches and prototypes were ready already in the 90s Yakovlev had no money for further production, so they began to cooperate with Italy... Just for the sake of money, the first flight of the Yak-130 in 1993, the M-346 in 2008
@@wertushka2715 in the 1993 there was the Yak/Aermacchi Yak/Aem 130 that was not a normal Yak 130. Indeed the first Yak 130 flow for the first time in the 2009, five years after the M346
This aircraft was a joint developement between Russia and Italy. In the final stage Italy left the joint venture.
That seems like the most accurate comment on this video. :)
Because Italiens did get, what they want, the planer, without much money to invest, didn’t they?;)
No Italy didn't leave, it stole the design and ran and sold it as its own to the west and western friendly nations like isreal .....turkey will do the same once it gets the right to locally produce the S300
The joint venture was broken (not "left") because Aermacchi (that's not "Italy") wanted a pure advanced trainer (training time on last generation fighters costs A LOT. To use a trainer whose performances are very close to the real thing saves a lot of money, so countries that use last generation fighters are very interested in this kind of aircrafts ). Yakovlev wanted an half-trainer half poor-man's-fighter to sell to nations that couldn't afford advanced fighters.
@@wanjevi italians the Masters of design had stolen the design?c'mon there is NOTHING italians can't do! NOTHING!
Як-130 а не 30. Лучший. Потому что сделан так что можно менять настройки систем управления. И тренировать лётчиков разных самолётов. +сам самолёт классный в управлении и мощный по вооружению.
Well, the same aircraft.
The M-346 is a certified copy of Yak-130.
A certified copy that flew some 5 years earlier and it actually was a joint programme untill the two companies split, still the Yak is infamous for crushing and the M 346 isn't. Why lie man?
@@carta8399 Do not lie or, at least do not speak so we could not see how stupid you are.
www.yak.ru/eng/firm/art_switch.php?art=4
Yak design bureau finished preliminary design in 1992 and with that design entered into cooperation with Italians. The Yak-130 flew in 1996, the M-346 in 2004.
So, tell me... how Italian M-346 could flew some 5 years earlier?
Next, the M-346 also has accidents with a lost plane.
Why lie man?
@@jerromedrakejr9332
First thing firts, calm down kid, speak like this to your friends.
Second thing, I was referring to this:
Yak 130:
According to its chief designer Konstantin Popovich, during a testing phase that ended in December 2009, the plane was tested with "all airborne weapons with a weight of up to 500 kg that are in service in the Russian Air Force"
Source: Pyadushkin, Maxim (16 February 2010). "Reprogrammed Trainer - Yak-130 jet trainer is cleared for service". Russia & CIS Observer. Archived from the original on 28 July 2011. Retrieved 11 September 2010.
Quoted on the wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130#cite_note-ato_yak130-16
M-346:
The first M-346 prototype rolled out on 7 June 2003, and conducted its maiden flight on 15 July 2004. In 2004, a contract for the development of a full-mission simulator for the M-346 was awarded to CAE.
Source: CAE wins contract for the development and supply of Alenia Aermacchi's M-346 simulator (press release), 2004, archived from the original on 2006-03-24.
Quoted on the wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_Aermacchi_M-346_Master#cite_note-9
End of the joint venture:
In 2000, differences in priorities between the two firms had brought about an end to the partnership, with each developing the aircraft independently. The Italian version was named M-346; Yakovlev received US$77 million for technical documents of the aircraft. Yakovlev would be able to sell the aircraft to countries such those in the Commonwealth of Independent States, India, Slovakia and Algeria. Aermacchi would be able to sell to NATO countries, among others.
Source: "Russian military trainer strategy falls into place; the selection of the Yak-130 marks an important step towards replacing the country's aging fleet of L-39Cs. Things are moving in the simulator business, too". Interavia Business & Technology. ISSN 1423-3215. Archived from the original on 24 September 2015. Retrieved 22 August 2015 - via HighBeam Research.
Quoted on the same Wikipedia page of the Yak 130
Evidently I msiunderstood because the 2009 date referred to the light attack version of the Yak, not the trainer, product of the joint venture between Yak and AEM.
It was my understanding that the date of the first flight you are referring to wasn't the Yak 130 but the first prototype of the Yak/AEM 130, named Yak 130/D, product of the joint venture between Yak and Aermacchi
I'm referring to this:
"After having entered discussions in 1992, in 1993 it agreed with the Italian company Aermacchi to jointly develop the plane, which now became Yak/AEM-130; Aermacchi would be responsible for the project's financial and technical support. The first prototype, dubbed Yak-130D, was built by Sokol at Nizhny Novgorod, Russia, and was publicly unveiled in June 1995. The aircraft made its first flight on 25 April 1996 from Zhukovsky Airport at the hands of Yakovlev chief test pilot Andrey Sinitsyn.
@@jerromedrakejr9332 So, at the end of the day, petty insults aside, the M 346 isn't a copy of the Yak 130 since both planes are the product of an indipendent development of the prototype that was born from the joint venture between the two manufacturers.
@@carta8399 It was an Italian-Russian collaboration project for an adestramento plane then leonardo comes out of the collaboration Because the Russian version did not respect the safety requirements born of the aircraft and each continuous with its own version
I love this kind of planes.
Yak!!!👍
В названии к видео ошибка, правильно: ЯК-130
"ЯК-130" ошибка, правильно: Aermacchi MB-339A...
Yak-130 speed 960mph?? It supposed to be M-346 which can speed up to 1500km/hour. While Yak's speed only 1040km per hour.
Chinese L-15 speed 1715 km/h. Chinese jet engine has a longer nozzle. It is the only difference
My heirloom paperplane my grand dad made...can go faster that both...
Maybe they add something new on the aircraft? that loweing the speed
@@Hidden_Trump Actually, the J-15 is the only one of the three to be equipped with afterburner, hence the longer nozzle and different rear fuselage. The M-346 does have a 1470 kph speed as a never-exceed one (above which the airframe will suffer damage, which I actually believe is roughtly the same between the two aircraft as they have nearly identical aerodynamics), but it can actually get to that (or even just supersonic) only with the help of a dive. The maximum speed it can reach by engine thrust alone is around 1250 (780 mph), higher than the one claimed in the video (maybe a typographical error, as it claims 680). According to what I dug up, the M-346 has slightly more powerful engines (6300 lbs thrust against 5510) than the Yak-140, thus it is simply natural that it is the faster of the two non-afterburning ones.
@@TheSergioTurbo l do not think there is a great demand for Yak-130 in Russia now. During Soviet times there were many L-29 and L-39 jets. And they were mostly manned by army conscripts of 19 y.o. All of them had attended air clubs and flied by gliders during their schooltime. Education and training was free of charge, and fuel was free too. At 18 y.o. they joined the army, got initial training for 1 year. And during their last year in army they flied by jets. It was a joy jet for teens in the old days
pesawat yak , adalah pertama yg dibuat soviet bisa vertical lepas landas , copynya dr italy , mm.
Is the russian one fly by wire as well?
Same exterior design but one is a Lamborghini and the other is a Lada. Which one is better? What a stupid question.
What does this have to do with civilian cars? This is military equipment. One of them is a Soyuz rocket, and the other one?
The Yak-130 is better than the M-346. The design is Russian not Italian.
@@MrUomoZucca the original design is Russian. It was developed in 1991 as the Yakovlev Yak-UTS. This original design was developed and completed to the Yak-130 in September 1993. Yakovlev needed a partner to develop and build the aircraft, and Aermacchi joined Yakovlev as a partner that same year and the aircraft became the Yak/AEM-130, with the Italians providing financial and technical support. The original design is Russian.
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ИТАЛИЯ УКРАЛА ЧЕРТЕЖИ ЯКА 130
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Look at the M340 project of 1986, it' s almost identical but with only one, bigger, engine. The plane was developed in cooperation and the result was the Aer-Yak 13 of 1996, the common prototype, then the two builders adapted their own designs to different technology/market/military requirements, Yak is more simple and cheap, more focused to dual role in third world countries, M 346 has higher training performances. And Yak 130 don't reach 960 mph .
So the Yak-130 is superior in every facet, specially in the hard points (8) compared to 4, since the Yak' s wingtips can also be used for AA missiles or ECMs.
Simply Aermacchi wanted a pure advanced trainer (training time on last generation fighters costs A LOT. To use a trainer whose performances are very close to the real thing saves a lot of money, so countries that use last generation fighters are very interested in this kind of aircrafts ). Yakovlev wanted an half-trainer half poor-man's-fighter to sell to nations that couldn't afford advanced fighters.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Yakovlev got whole 25% in thatproject and Aermacchi share was 50%... but yea, lets forget about it and not call yak-130->Aermacchi...
You are wrong. M346 can mount a total of 9 pilons. And it has better tecnology, better engine, better weapons (the russian one is not even able to mount AGM) ecc
Is that like Fiat of Jet Fighters?
Bro its not yak-30 its yak-130.
So what was first? Egg or hen?
we built and designed the first model with the Russians (it was a collaboration), then the project dissolved as we aimed to use composite materials and more powerful engines, while they wanted to build a cheaper version to sell it en masse to other countries ...the Yak-130 is literally the cheapest and least powerful version of the M-346...
Як 130 практически в два раза дешевле, а для российских ВКС то и в 4-5 раза
Me gustaría que mi país la "República Dominicana" Adquiriera los Yak-130 Rusos.
No amigo son muy malos se estan cayendo en bolivia.
@@juanneira771 Bolivia no los tiene, quizas te Estes confundiedo con los K9, que son una porqueria China.
Они как близнецы-братья
Потому что одна и та же совместная разработка изначально была.
Isnt Yak 30 a plane that Was build under the korean War?
Uomo Zucca yes but check the title:-)
_PandaBoy _ Title is wrong
Yak 130 💪💪💪💪💪👍👌
Yak 130 and t346a is brother dude, but Russia and italy is friends
Выходит итальяшки где то раздобыли чертежи... Як130 совершил первый полёт в 1996 году, а плогиат в 2004
Вовремя вышли из проекта и получили чертежи на планер, жучары!
Aermacchi MB-339A...
итальянский учебно-боевой самолёт и лёгкий штурмовик, разработанный для замены MB-326. Совершил первый полёт 12 августа 1976 года. Серийно производится с 1978 года, состоит на вооружении ВВС Италии, поставлялся в 8 стран мира. Самолёты этой серии стоят на вооружении пилотажной группы итальянских ВВС Frecce Tricolori.
Seem similiar from outside,,, like brothers
Because they are brothers...Same basic airframe, different engines and electronics.
Nice 👍🏽 very performents aircraft . 😎
Buenisimos los dos aviones.
Italian aircraft is the Italian version of the Russian Yak-130, that's a FACT... Name at least one Italian designer who participated in the development of the Yak-130, they are absolutely not, absolutely all the developers of this aircraft, all Russian, created it in Russia, and, long before the arrival of the Italian company, the majority has already been created... But, for the implementation of the practical part of the project, the money was already lacking, after the collapse of the Union, it was a difficult financial situation... The Russians agreed to provide all the technical documentation in exchange for financial support for the project... The Italians wanted to develop themselves, but the Yak-130 project was better, and in fact, the Italians just bought the Russian project... Requirements for such aircraft in Russia were too strict, so in Russia, immediately created a very reliable and durable aircraft that can fight, and which is very easy to repair, after the battle, at the same time, it is easy to maintain and maintain, as a training... Russia created a combat Training aircraft!!! In Europe, the requirements for aviation are weak, they are much easier, the Italians needed only training aircraft, combat aircraft were too tough and durable, according to European standards for training aircraft, Russian aircraft had excessive characteristics... Russian refused to do plastic planes, because after the battle, damaged after shelling, was incompatible with the repair, shot composite parts lose their rigidity, they cannot be repaired, composite parts, after firing, have to be replaced entirely... For a combat aircraft, this is unacceptable, the repair should be quick and cheap, and the composite aircraft can be repaired either long and expensive, or in the factory... The Italians wanted to have only training, so they left the project... By the way, the basic version of the M-346, called the Yak-130D, is a version of the aircraft at the time of Italy's exit from this project... over the next few years, the Italians have replaced some parts of the fuselage on the composite to reduce weight, put similar power to their engines, European avionics and began to produce as the M-346... In Russia, we continued to improve this aircraft, continued to experiment with various aviation alloys that could ensure the strength and survivability of the aircraft in real combat, while also reducing the weight, while developing weapons control systems, and electronics, for training simulations, various types of aircraft... As a result, Russia has created a combat Training aircraft, which, among other things, having a fully metal body, has a mass similar to the Italian, semi-composite M-346... By the way, since Italy decided to withdraw from the project, before the Russians created a full version of their aircraft, Yakovlev Design Bureau needed additional funding, therefore, the Ministry of defense, allowed to sell technical documentation on the Yak-38 and Yak-141,the Americans (1995), who created on the basis of the Yak-141, its stealth version of the f-35... Also, to increase funding at the final stages, it was decided to attract the Chinese... In the early 2000s, with American and Chinese money, it was possible to completely create an aircraft that fully meets the strict requirements of the Russian Ministry of Defense... In return, the Chinese received documentation and access to some Yak-130 technologies, as well as Russian designers, helped them to create a Chinese version of the aircraft... Hongdu L-15-Chinese combat Training aircraft, clone of the Yak-130...But, the Chinese wanted a plane with wider combat capabilities, so the Chinese put more powerful engines, these are the same engines as the Yak-130, but in the version with the afterburner, the speed increased by 1.5 times, and the oxygen station allows you to fly at an altitude of 16 km... Italian M-346 costs about 30 million dollars... Chinese Hongdu L-15, about $ 10 million... Russian Yak-130, the export value of about 15 million dollars, in Russia it is sold for about 7-7. 5 million dollars...
@@MrUomoZucca the English version of Wikipedia is very circumcised, a lot of information is taken out of context... in the English version, the history of the Yak-130, begins in 1991... In real life, the history of this aircraft began in the late 1980s... Anyway, my first flight, the Yak-130 made April 25, 1996... Turn on the brain, you really think that a completely new aircraft, you can design, create several prototypes, blow them in the wind tunnel, create engines and initial electronics... For 2.5 years...???!!!) You seriously..???) According to your logic, the cooperation began only in 1993 year, and the plane flew in the early 1996, that is, you really think that the aircraft was created for 2 years, and a few months...???)) This is nonsense... Here's a clipping, from Russian Wikipedia, it's not in the English version... Competition for the creation of a new UBS was announced in the late 1980s. The new machine was to become a universal twin-engine aircraft for training pilots, from the initial flight training and ending with the features of combat use, as well as to maintain flight skills in combat units.
In the future, these aircraft should completely replace the outdated fleet of Czechoslovak aircraft L-39, according to a rough estimate, this should happen within 10-13 years, and become the main combat training unit of the Russian air force. Many of the L-39s used in Russia as aircraft for training cadets have long flown their resource. That is why in the late 1980s in the USSR was announced a tender for the development of training aircraft. Serial production of the L-39 was completed in 1999, and The l-159, a modern version of the aircraft, was not ordered by the Ministry of defence of the Russian Federation due to the change in the geopolitical orientation of the Czech Republic and its transition to the "probable enemy"camp.
Russian air force chose two projects-Yak-130 and MiG-at. For the development of the new aircraft required large funds, which had neither the developers nor the Ministry of defense of Russia, so the aircraft were designed in conjunction with foreign firms - Yak-130 with Italian Alenia Aermacchi, and MiG-at - with French companies. Further... In the description of the M-346 clearly written: the basic model
Yak-130D. Moreover, the modern appearance of the M-346, it is an exact copy of the base model Yak-130D, the Italians did not change anything in the shape of the aircraft, as they considered the design complete... the changes affected the materials used in structures, composites and titanium, reducing the weight by 700 kg, relative to the base model... Russian, considered the design unfinished, so I continued to improve the aerodynamics, if you look closely, you can find a large number of differences from the base model... As a result, the Russian aircraft is completely assembled from reliable metal alloys,but by weight, it is equal to, with a semi-composite M-346... Of course, the engines and electronics are different... In Russia, all components of military equipment are created in Russia... In Italy, all different countries... You can count the adaptation of the engine and electronic components, at the expense of the Italians... Although, if I'm not mistaken, the wheel suspension, the Italians slightly changed... In the Chinese L-15, used drawings of the finished Yak-130, therefore, in contrast to the Italian, this aircraft looks more like the Yak-130, at the same time, this aircraft uses components made of composite materials, because it uses a forced version of the engine, which was first produced in Ukraine, this engine is heavier and longer than the basic Russian engine, therefore, the rear of the aircraft is somewhat similar to the Yak-130D and M-346, but has large engine nozzles
@@СергейПетров-я8й5л Do You really think that there were no trainers (/light attack) aircraft in Aermacchi drawers? Have You ever took a look, for example at a MB-339, for example PAN version that is very easy to find online. Are the ones without the tip wing tanks.
Look at the shape, tail position vs .alerons, ... ...
Than there were the projects with different varianmts MB-340, MB-341, the ATX, ...
In this case Yak-130 proper name is "Yak/AEM-130"... as it was not a "Russian" plane.
And you can also find older Aermacchi planes like for example MB-339A that you can easly claim as source of ideas for the Yak/AEM-130...
Yakovlev Yak -30 ❤
Леонардо-это русский ЯК.Без ЯКа никакого леонардо не было бы🤣🤣🤣
Если не ошибаюсь, есть ещё китайская подделка, то есть как всегда!!!!
Итальянцы финансировали, КБ Яковлева проектировало.
@@максутнургалиев-д8ч Для китайцев, планер разработала ОКБ Яковлева.
Italian Aermacchi got the biggest 50% in Yak-130 design. Yakovlev share was only 25%...
And fully Italian plane is ofc superior to cheap half baked Yak-130.
I thought they were virtually the same.
The Yak-130 seam to be more polyvalent than the M-346 in the light fighter/strike jet role, with the integration of multiple type of weapons (Air to air / Air to ground) and 8 hardpoint instead of 4 for the M-346. On the other hand the finishes of the skin looks better, more polish, on the M-346, I wonder how it impacts the RCS.
It was a joint venture, at the end it's the same plane but it's modified in base of the necessities of the company. Italy and Russia made a lot of joint venture
@@enricomarzotto is not the same plane..
M-346 FA ( Fighter Attack ) have 7 hardpoint and better integration of multiple type of weapons than " basic " M-346 FT, because is a jet trainer and dont need a lot of weapon .
BTW M-346 FA is more modern than Yak-130 ( yes original project is a join venture Yak-Airmacchi ) and have better avionics .
Круто!
height of 11.49 meters are in cargo class. cant be right
Better than FA50
In what way?
@@sleepynarf1546 t50 is a jack of all trades lower end fighter attack... These are specialized aircraft... So they do better attack runs that T50. T50s are not really gonna be any good as a fighter anyway agaunst the competition F16s or mig29, so might aswell conpare it as an attack aircraft
@@jemarcatubig3171 I thought your saying that the yak30 and m346 are better than the fa50.
@@jemarcatubig3171 I thought your saying that the yak30 and m346 are better than the fa50.
Both aircrafts look same
Russian 💪💪
Italian 🇮🇹
@@Pipp08
الروسية هي النسخة الاصلية 🇷🇺🇷🇺
Russian yak 130 The Best 👍😜👍😜👍
Why this small fighter Aircraft required 2 Engine.
Because it's not a "small fighter", it's schooldesk for future pilots of 2engines fighters.
Because you have one more left if one is out of order during flight...
There are obvious differences like comparing a Fiat with a Lada: looks the same but the Italian is the real deal while the Russian it’s just a bad copy.
Huh? Speed is 960 mph? Maybe 690 only.
Як-30 и Як-130 совершенно разные самолёты)
Да да один из 50х другой из 90х....один в серию не пошел, другой УБ.
1:22 doen't look all that high... lol
It's lenght.
Top...ok..Yak..BRAVO
To many fools commenting it's a Yak, NO, it's a Yakleonardo, Leonardoyak. Well done Both Nations.
Nope, its updated Aermacchi MB-339, just like Yak...
@@Bialy_1 as what i said above!
M-346 is 1.2 Mach not .86
That speed had been reached in a shallow dive. It's not its max horizontal speed. It had been done to show that the trainer can be used to teach supersonic flight without using afterburners.
@@neutronalchemist3241 in reality the M346 reached Mach 1.15 during levelled flight at 30.000 on December 8 2008 during a test flight performed by the Italian airforce
@@giannizen3775 I've never read that speed had ben reached in levelled flight (if you have a source, I'll gladly stand corrected) infact the aircraft is always described as "transonic" (capable to exceed the speed of sound) but not as capable to supercruise (capable to exceed the speed of sound using only its own engines without afterburners).
@@neutronalchemist3241 www.flightglobal.com/alenia-aermacchis-m-346-masters-supersonic-transition/84488.article my bad, 45.000ft
@@neutronalchemist3241 i also have other Italian sources, but this was the only English one I found. You’d have to translate them
Yak 130 test
Italians have always done it better, from design,cars,bikes, yachts,ships,boats,planes, helicopters,design, fashion, architecture, satellite,there is nothing italians can't do, say whatever you want and keep ur self being ignorant, lak130 and Leonardo m346 are son of a joint venture btw Russia and Italy the difference is that while the m346 is a Ferrari the yak130 is a Lada. Good bless Italy and Russia
I'd go Yak 130 every time. Everything Russian is dual purpose. Crap roads as improvised airstrips? Close air support? Can hook and jab with fighters? Very sad politics got in the way of the Macchi-Yakovlev.
Як симпотнее выглядит!
Внешний вид одинаков.
@@ИзяШнобельман А почему так?
😣😣😣
No clear explenation ... nothing more than a nice video....
Actually is Yak -130 not a 30 . This Yak -130 programme in the beginning was with 2 companies. Russian Yak and Italian, after while Italians withdraw from the project and living Yak to develop on his own. But some how they kept some paperworks from the project. That is why the Italian model has some similarities with Yak-130 but both planes are completely two deferent jets .
Actualy 3 companies and Italian Aermacchi got 50% and Russian Yakovlev only 25%...
Молотцы ВВС российский армии як 130 абсолютна супер в мире аналагов в мире нет.
wrong title
Enough to know this.
Yak -30:
first flight - April 25, 1996
start of operation - February 2010
Leonardo M-346:
first flight - July 15, 2004 (8 years after the Yak-130)
the beginning of operation -15 November 2011
Wrong, the development outside from the general studies already performed by Yak started officially in 1993 with both the company already in it, and both company put in the project their own founds 50% each, both companies gained a lot in the cooperation, Aermacchi got access to the preliminary studies on the aerodynamic (we don't have to confuse the fact that the aircraft looks similar but in the end they have many differences, every paper plane looks the same but some can fly and others can't..) Yak got the founds to start the development (because in that time the economic situation was really bad in Russia) and also access to the know how of one of the most successful producer of trainers in the west, the plane that flew in 1996 (?) was a co produced and was named yak-aem-130 with both companies name on it, we don't know why the partnership ended in 2000, some says because the Russian side was unable to put their part of the money in it, other says that were technical reason behind it, with the Russian side that wanted a simpler (cheaper) airplane in terms of technologies and the Italian side pushing for a high end product, that make sense considering that Aermacchi was pointing already at Eurofighter/JSF (at the time) while having the A339CD selling on the market, so no rush the 346 was meant for the Eurotrainer program and maybe the USA competition, that's also why the 346 is considerable lighter (with more or less the same size) of the yak 130, the construction tech is at least comparable with the eurofighter with large use of composite, I don't meant to say that one is better than the other, I meant just to say that they are different aircraft with different technologies but most import different philosophy, before someone start to rant about the fact that I said that the m346 is more advanced than the Yak 130 (in certain terms at least) I just want to remember that a 346 cost around 20M dollars WAY more than a Yak 130 (almost like a mig 29!) those money are going into something! I think that is stupid to negate the great aerodynamic studies from Yak and the general idea of a platform, but saying that Italian stolen the design or copied something is unfair, without the Italian moneys and the Italian peoples working along sides with the Russian both the planes today would have not been here most probably... so put away your nationalism.. is old like your aircraft fleet..
P.s.
source: www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1993/1993%20-%201567.PDF
as you can see at the time the Aircraft was a wannabe.. it started with the Italians.. deal with it..
@UCujPj1VrZnaTP1YIVzODKLw really? the wing of a 346 is half the section of a 130 is it really a copy? do you think they fly the same way? I repeat Yak have done the general design study before the cooperation started, for the rest was a paper plane, I don't think there is a single peace/quote in common in the two aircraft and the flight performance will be quite different in a similar spectrum.
Well, since that name of the prototype was YAK-AEM 130D (You forgot a part of the name).
If I would be "bad" I would say that the aircraft looks like two engines evolution of an Aermacchi MB-339A (the ones without wing tip tanks, like, for example PAN version). Just look to the shape of frontal part and the rear tail configuration.
Than search for example project MB-340, MB-341, ...
_they are the same _*_aircraft_*
who copy who
M346 kopi is yak130 , ilove yak 130 ,
Iran & russia 🇷🇺🇮🇷🇷🇺🇮🇷🇷🇺🇮🇷❤️❤️❤️
yak130 kopi Aermacchi MB-339...
Basically Italians having used the Russian Yakovlev to deliver the best of their aircraft design when the Russians were weak and poor, broke up with them at the final stage to sell and market it globally with better engines and components from the West. Clever move.
100%Leonard
Why they look the same?
In 1992, Aermacchi signed a cooperation agreement with Yakovlev to provide financial and technical support for the new trainer that the firm had been developing since 1991 for the Russian Air Force in competition with the Mikoyan MiG-AT. Aermacchi also gained the right to modify and market the aircraft for the Western market.
Doc74 thank for replying
@@doc7440 And Aermacchi had also its own project, already in design phase in the '80 like MB-340, MB-341 and others.
To remember the MB-339A, take alook at general design, for example front and rear part, convert to two engines ...
Yak 130 best weapon carry but m346 best avoincs
And older version of Yak-130? You know the Italian Aermacchi MB-339...
No, M346 can carry more numerous and advanced weapons
Нашли что сравнить, вы. В су-27 сравните!
stupid comparison..Lol
Belo nome do Italiano.
😂😂😂😂
Los Italianos mejoraron el diseñó, que realmente es el mismo, le optimizarón aviónica y le instalaron mejores motores.
La avionica es totalmente diferente, la del M-346 es un sistema fly-by-wire quaduple con glass cokpit, ...
ну! Як-130 лучшее продается в мире! Почему?
Я думаю, - дешевле, чем М-346.
Як-130->Aermacchi MB-339A...
Why compare some microfighter/trainingplane to REAL combat aircraft?
Astig na fighter jet YAK 130 we need this phil air force advance aircrafrt
advance trainer eto which is meron na tayo nyan yung fa-50. mas lamang pa nga ang fa50 kasi supersonic while ang mga eto ay subsonic planes lamang. although mas cheaper pa ang yak 130 @ 18$m at t-346 @ 20$m compared sa 30M$ ng variant ng fa50.
Son lo mismo...solo que a los rusos les salen mucho más caros 33 millones y a los italianos 20 millones...
Like similar plane
jest do tego lepsza awionika a(lol) jebac system ile g wytrzyma material nie czlowiek ?
This needs to be re-done with the Hongdu L-15 also added in to the competition. Cheaper than the Italian, same price as the Russian and higher speed and higher rate of climb than both.
Boooo
IA63 pampa.....best
M346 place of origin ITALY what a joke... since its a copy of the yak 130 origin should be RUSSIA
It is not a copy, it was a 90's joint venture. Italians were welkomed by the russians because they lacked funds for the entire project.
Italian aircraft is the Italian version of the Russian Yak-130, that's a FACT... Name at least one Italian designer who participated in the development of the Yak-130, they are absolutely not, absolutely all the developers of this aircraft, all Russian, created it in Russia, and, long before the arrival of the Italian company, the majority has already been created... But, for the implementation of the practical part of the project, the money was already lacking, after the collapse of the Union, it was a difficult financial situation... The Russians agreed to provide all the technical documentation in exchange for financial support for the project... The Italians wanted to develop themselves, but the Yak-130 project was better, and in fact, the Italians just bought the Russian project... Requirements for such aircraft in Russia were too strict, so in Russia, immediately created a very reliable and durable aircraft that can fight, and which is very easy to repair, after the battle, at the same time, it is easy to maintain and maintain, as a training... Russia created a combat Training aircraft!!! In Europe, the requirements for aviation are weak, they are much easier, the Italians needed only training aircraft, combat aircraft were too tough and durable, according to European standards for training aircraft, Russian aircraft had excessive characteristics... Russian refused to do plastic planes, because after the battle, damaged after shelling, was incompatible with the repair, shot composite parts lose their rigidity, they cannot be repaired, composite parts, after firing, have to be replaced entirely... For a combat aircraft, this is unacceptable, the repair should be quick and cheap, and the composite aircraft can be repaired either long and expensive, or in the factory... The Italians wanted to have only training, so they left the project... By the way, the basic version of the M-346, called the Yak-130D, is a version of the aircraft at the time of Italy's exit from this project... over the next few years, the Italians have replaced some parts of the fuselage on the composite to reduce weight, put similar power to their engines, European avionics and began to produce as the M-346... In Russia, we continued to improve this aircraft, continued to experiment with various aviation alloys that could ensure the strength and survivability of the aircraft in real combat, while also reducing the weight, while developing weapons control systems, and electronics, for training simulations, various types of aircraft... As a result, Russia has created a combat Training aircraft, which, among other things, having a fully metal body, has a mass similar to the Italian, semi-composite M-346... By the way, since Italy decided to withdraw from the project, before the Russians created a full version of their aircraft, Yakovlev Design Bureau needed additional funding, therefore, the Ministry of defense, allowed to sell technical documentation on the Yak-38 and Yak-141,the Americans (1995), who created on the basis of the Yak-141, its stealth version of the f-35... Also, to increase funding at the final stages, it was decided to attract the Chinese... In the early 2000s, with American and Chinese money, it was possible to completely create an aircraft that fully meets the strict requirements of the Russian Ministry of Defense... In return, the Chinese received documentation and access to some Yak-130 technologies, as well as Russian designers, helped them to create a Chinese version of the aircraft... Hongdu L-15-Chinese combat Training aircraft, clone of the Yak-130...But, the Chinese wanted a plane with wider combat capabilities, so the Chinese put more powerful engines, these are the same engines as the Yak-130, but in the version with the afterburner, the speed increased by 1.5 times, and the oxygen station allows you to fly at an altitude of 16 km... Italian M-346 costs about 30 million dollars... Chinese Hongdu L-15, about $ 10 million... Russian Yak-130, the export value of about 15 million dollars, in Russia it is sold for about 7-7. 5 million dollars...
@@MrUomoZucca the English version of Wikipedia is very circumcised, a lot of information is taken out of context... in the English version, the history of the Yak-130, begins in 1991... In real life, the history of this aircraft began in the late 1980s... Anyway, my first flight, the Yak-130 made April 25, 1996... Turn on the brain, you really think that a completely new aircraft, you can design, create several prototypes, blow them in the wind tunnel, create engines and initial electronics... For 2.5 years...???!!!) You seriously..???) According to your logic, the cooperation began only in 1993 year, and the plane flew in the early 1996, that is, you really think that the aircraft was created for 2 years, and a few months...???)) This is nonsense... Here's a clipping, from Russian Wikipedia, it's not in the English version... Competition for the creation of a new UBS was announced in the late 1980s. The new machine was to become a universal twin-engine aircraft for training pilots, from the initial flight training and ending with the features of combat use, as well as to maintain flight skills in combat units.
In the future, these aircraft should completely replace the outdated fleet of Czechoslovak aircraft L-39, according to a rough estimate, this should happen within 10-13 years, and become the main combat training unit of the Russian air force. Many of the L-39s used in Russia as aircraft for training cadets have long flown their resource. That is why in the late 1980s in the USSR was announced a tender for the development of training aircraft. Serial production of the L-39 was completed in 1999, and The l-159, a modern version of the aircraft, was not ordered by the Ministry of defence of the Russian Federation due to the change in the geopolitical orientation of the Czech Republic and its transition to the "probable enemy"camp.
Russian air force chose two projects-Yak-130 and MiG-at. For the development of the new aircraft required large funds, which had neither the developers nor the Ministry of defense of Russia, so the aircraft were designed in conjunction with foreign firms - Yak-130 with Italian Alenia Aermacchi, and MiG-at - with French companies. Further... In the description of the M-346 clearly written: the basic model
Yak-130D. Moreover, the modern appearance of the M-346, it is an exact copy of the base model Yak-130D, the Italians did not change anything in the shape of the aircraft, as they considered the design complete... the changes affected the materials used in structures, composites and titanium, reducing the weight by 700 kg, relative to the base model... Russian, considered the design unfinished, so I continued to improve the aerodynamics, if you look closely, you can find a large number of differences from the base model... As a result, the Russian aircraft is completely assembled from reliable metal alloys,but by weight, it is equal to, with a semi-composite M-346... Of course, the engines and electronics are different... In Russia, all components of military equipment are created in Russia... In Italy, all different countries... You can count the adaptation of the engine and electronic components, at the expense of the Italians... Although, if I'm not mistaken, the wheel suspension, the Italians slightly changed... In the Chinese L-15, used drawings of the finished Yak-130, therefore, in contrast to the Italian, this aircraft looks more like the Yak-130, at the same time, this aircraft uses components made of composite materials, because it uses a forced version of the engine, which was first produced in Ukraine, this engine is heavier and longer than the basic Russian engine, therefore, the rear of the aircraft is somewhat similar to the Yak-130D and M-346, but has large engine nozzles
zarko radic
Ivan Drago sayed.
поправка як 130 а не 30
Mr. Putin, can you donate 8 of this Yak-130 to Uruguay please, please, please !!!! Thank you !!!
you are sure?
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%BA-30_(1960)
@@ПавелЗайцев-м3е )))))))))
Uruguayito!. Pedirle aviones a los tanos!. Fíjate si son más generosos!. Se me hace que son medio miserables los tanos!.
Putin es italiano ?
Yak 960mp/h?where you take it.Yak 1060 km/h,aermacci m346 1093km/h
Yak 130
Maximum speed: 1,060 km/h (660 mph )
Cruise speed: 887 km/h (551 mph )
M 346
Maximum speed: 1,255 km/h ( 780 mph )
Cruiser speed 1,059 km/h ( 658 mph )
And your point same plane
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