@speedway3901 I'm curious, have you tried consecration + roaring flames? If you're getting devour from bloodline you might not need the sunspots anyway
It's a great way to use exotics that allow you to hold your ground compared to running and gunning through a strike or dungeon and having to think through dps
@@baltazar514Where Triton Vice had no place before. With Vexcalibur on Void and Edge of Concurrence on Arc, it can finally get some legitimate use now. Vexcalibur being great for poking stuff. Edge of Concurrence for projectile ad clear.
I've seen a lot of people asking if they can replace buried bloodline for something else in the build I submitted, so I wanted to just give a heads up as to why buried bloodline is such a necessity. When proccing devour, the benefit doesn't come from just getting health back on kills, but also giving back grenade energy spanning from 7.5% - 20% depending on what type of enemy you kill. This works in tandem with shattering your own stasis crystals to receive a 500% grenade recharge rate. Devour helps this grenade spam build essentially lock down entire chokepoints for you with so much uptime on the duskfield grenades. If you don't have buried bloodline to give you devour, you won't be able to spam grenades as much.
I've used a similar build with ager's scepter, You make more cristals so that helps the granade recharge and You are able to freeze a lot of enemies, but it comes in cost of the devour
@lachinio What do you usually rock in your first slot? Would the Boar with chain reaction be a good option here or would an Eysuluna with headstone and relenting be better?
@@deronscott i’m thinking of either running lingering dread with auto loading, disorienting and chill clip, or getting a judgement roll with headstone and adrenaline junkie
I love this build so much. I use a headstone/outlaw eyasluna with it. The headstone crystals just allow so much more shatter than just the devour renewal nades alone. I tried a judgment and it just doesn’t feel as good as eyasluna.
Bro on wave 50 I had a tormentor spawn and I didn’t even have a shax. Just a level 2 decoy and it STILL sat there and tanked the tormentor the entire time. Decoys are 100 percent goated asf in this lol.
@@hatchell18 Not only that, you can repair them with ADU batteries so you can keep them basically permanently if you're not letting the damage bleed through on the ADU.
Whenever I'm up against Fallen in Midtown, I put on Riskrunner. Even on waves 40-50, I feel practically invincible to everything but the Captain's shotguns and the chain lightnight to everything at all times without having to reload is just god tier ad-clearing.
It needs a buff if anything the grenades can't even nuke yellow bars without roaring flames times 3.dedicating an exotic to 1 ability and still sucking pyrogale is way better even hallowfire is better.
@@s1lentcalib3r theres really not that many abilities capable of oneshotting yellow bars,even frenzied blade with banner takes 2 or even 3 depending upon your exotic and debuff/tractor,the only one that comes to my mind that can truly oneshot yellow bars at gm level is peregrine greaves with offensive/knockout/roaring flames.
You, mactics, and plunder are responsible for my ever growing list of 20+ builds for all 3 of my characters. Without a doubt one of the most fun things about destiny right now is grabbing all these builds and taking em into onslaught to see how they hold up. Most fun I’ve had with destiny in a good while.
When rocking ashen wake If you use the fragment that drops a fire sprite and firepower + innervation you only need to kill two red bars, or one yellow bar to refresh your grenade. Combine it with roaring flames and you really don’t need consecration.
I saw people using kick-starts and died a little inside. They're not useless, but they have been nerfed so heavily, they are kind of a last resort. Firesprites, orbs, and ember of benevolence are better for chaining. 2 orb mods means you make em every 5 seconds, and a reaper mod helps too. Any weapon with heal clip will let you loop solar abilities endlessly in onslaught, heliocentric goated for this
Honestly if the ashen wake had roaring flames with a solar weapon with demolitionist and adrenalin junkie or incandescent that could have been top tier
It would be good stuff for sure but unless you are running this with someone who is playing stasis or tether sooner or later your ass will be struggling. Those later rounds turn enemies into tanks making those nades less profitable over time. Not saying that it won't work cuz it absolutely will but you will feel the heat..... pun intended. lol
This is what D2 is all about. Being able to experiment with tons of different ways to play and coming together to try to find the absolute best (of everything).
To those who don't know, you can heal EVERYTHING with the ADU batteries. Decoys, turrets, tripewire, YOURSELF, and enemies... So whatch where you throw them. Lol Also,...You can activate your class ability immediately after throwing the battery to the ADU and you'll get the battery back to throw a 2nd time at the ADU. Act accordingly, guardians.
@@Andrew110 from what I've just seen today, you can dupe the batteries a bunch of ways and not just after activating your class ability. Look for "Cheese Forever" here on YT. He shows a bunch of ways to battery dupe for the ADU.
I had a decoy distracting a tormentor and my teammate kept trying to throw the battery at the decoy and he just kept hitting the tormentor over and over and over and over again, it was absurd. I was so confused when I threw a nova bomb, killed some ads, looked back, and he had more health than before I threw my nova bomb
dude seeing these onslaught videos brings me much joy, a defense mode is all i ever wanted and now you can build into that which is sick.... Bleak Watcher, Renewal Grasps, i dont know about ward of dawn but like really cool
2:46 YUP that did go under... And it happens WAY more often than it should. The amount of times I've thought I'd hit some wizards that were close to the ground and it S T I L L f**kin misses is greatly upsetting...
honestly, im new to destiny 2 and his content made me learn so much about this game + its entertaining. i had so much fun watching your videos . every video is a masterpiece , the editing , the content , PURE ENTERTAINMENT
I had so much fun watching this build battle, Cross you and your team are awesome man and to both contenders, great builds, I'll definitely be grabbing that stasis build for DIM and dubbing it.... SAFESIS!!!
Honestly the new rule in this BB sounds VERY similar to one of my comments on a previous vid. Love to see you taking up your community's ideas into consideration, even with how big your channel has become. Much love brotherman
I don't know, I think this format of build battles does not really show which one is stronger if the whole team is not running the same build, because the other different builds in the fireteam could be compensating the weak points, like the lack of CC in the ashen wake build or the extra dps the solar titan is providing to the renewal grasp build, nonetheless incredible content as always!
I feel like he addresses this a lot. He's constantly pointing out the flaws in his actions, and the bonuses from his teammates, so I'd say he does a good job showing/explaining which is better
@@InfInITe0HaTReD since we have anti barrier sidearm using its exotic intrinsic of gathering light to give yourself 10% ability energy per stack. Has osmosis so it’s a stasis weapon for siphon reasons but throw a turret throw a turret eat the stacks off my sidearm throw a third turret. The ability recharge from travelers chosen makes the extra turrets so much faster.
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 if I can get even more turrets and have an anti barrier weapon that gives me back me rift constantly also it’s a very synergistic combination. Of my 2.7 million kills only 140k are warlock kills so my warlocking isn’t top notch and I like easy things.
Salvations grip Behemoth Hoarfrost-z Reliable kinetic and energy maybe for champs, shriekers, and tormentors Dunno about fallen but need cc? Done, need them dead? Done, need cover? Done, need damage? Done, need healing? Done Just practice with salvation’s before hand…do not use the explosive mode unless you *absolutely need* to or the target is frozen It’s great for locking an area down to get some room to breathe for you and your team Cryoclasm and tectonic harvest with the overshield fragment with whatever other fragments you need but ofc the 1. grenade recharge for breaking a crystal 2. The fragment that buffs shatter damage and 3. The fragment that offers reduced damage for being near frozen targets and stasis crystals…now while it’s definitely fun i’m not gonna say 3 peeps running this simultaneously is good (turns GMs into strikes) but it’s definitely a vibe
26:20 something neat would be doing a "best of" during the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season where you go back and pit the winners against each other (can be voted on, randomized, or let the winners decide which other winners they want to face), and then having a top 5 best builds of the season at the end to cap off the inaugural season of Build Battles
Hey guys, just a tip: the ADU batteries can also heal turrets and decoys back to max health. You'll be able to hear a faint sound, as if it was healed, that indicates that it worked. Also note that the battery doesn't go away, which means that you can keep spamming the healing mid rounds.
I ran a similar build with ashen wake but with bxr crafted with enhanced demo and incandescent. Riptide and leviathan breath/salvations grip, sol inv, roaring flames. And it works very well. I cant remember the aspects but the main one is the one thay gives you grenade energy on ignition kills is a must. Precision final blows with the artifact mod creating igntions constantly with demo in the bxr and you'll be throwing fusions non stop almost.
something to remember all my renewal users...through the duskfield directly at your feet and the crystal will sprout up around you...making you immune to all except are burning damage and completely makes you lose aggro. been doing this forever in gms and coil ever since this exotic dropped. absolutely an under rated technique
also side note...a really good weapon for more survivability is manticore. the void overshield damage resist stacks with renewals. and decent damage for a primary. plus if you run the rime fragment...picking up stasis shards will actually increase the duration of your void overshields. only if you have rime equipped though. and also a better fragment to run instead of conduction is torment...since you're a bullet sponge already you're just amping up your grenade gains. happy freezing guys
Cross, for the ashen wake build you should use an osmosis demo weapon Proc devour then get your solar synergy from throwing grenades as well as get them back faster with demo
I use an extremely similar Renewal Grasps build that I've had since season of the deep, even before, but i use Wicked Implement with catalyst for grenade regen and grenade spam. I want to eventually test if implement is practical enough to take into this mode and be effective. Glad to see these God tier gauntlets getting love again though.
I rock Renewal Grasps a lot right now, probably my favourite build at the moment. I run Lament with it though, which works so well with the duskfields, and since it heals and deals with barrier champs it's very versatile.
severance enclosure with the volatile finisher fragment goes mega hard here, super clutch. I pair it with berried bloodline devour and grenade CD mods (particularly grenade finisher cuz synergy)
The renewal grasp build is similar to what I use but I fuel the grenade additionally with melee kills. Also I use Agers Scepter with stasis surge for crystal harvesting. Frankly many people are sleeping on agers right now , I haven’t had this much fun with stasis since beyond light
The hunter stasis build with salvation grip makes it so much better by shatterdiving the crystals you get your grenades so fast thanks to one of those aspects
I use Verglas with Renewals and Shatterdive. You get those stacks of Hail Barrage refunded but you need to know where to place them. Shattering those crystals when on top of enemies won’t count. If enemies are near them and die to shatter damage, they’ll be refunded. Much better for me at least. Don’t have to worry about managing ammo.
Consecration is so criminally underused considering it gives you a third melee type and is incredibly powerful at clearing rooms and heavy clusters of targets
Finally got all 50 and it was super smooth with triple stasis. Renewal grasp for clutch points. Statis titan for blocking off alleys, osimomancy with agers scepter for crowd control
In any game that features them, having decoys or goons that you can deploy is GOATed. Everyone always underestimates them, but pet/summoner/decoy builds are outrageous in PvE content where the enemies are forced to switch aggro, or otherwise aren't smart enough to focus down the players. It's that way in Diablo, WoW works on those rules for all their tanks, and it's still true here as well. I'm not shocked at all that the Shaxx decoy is so dominant. Stasis is also king in Onslaught for the same reason. CC, baby.
When u use ashen wake things to remember 4 kills with the nade is instant nade back to u ( if u have grenade kickstart armor charge or firespirits count as a kill ) and u need a reliable way to pump out either orbs or firespirits easiest change u can make is a atrrition orbs primary gun
Thanks for using all my builds again. Clap .. BTW run whatever frosty build and use Wintersbite really lean in. WB is a boss many little baby boss stomper
I’m using the same hunter build but since I don’t have the exotic I’m using a headstone vulpecula with indebted kindness and dragons breath or the craftable raconteur bow with archers/headstone. It’s a fun build when you get sick of running tether
That acolyte killed you slow and steady all by himself. he was literally right next to you the whole time you just ignored him cause you didn’t think he was a threat
I got my first 50 using a build very similar to the hunter stasis build. You basically sacrifice kills for control and I think it's a good trade, especially in the 30 and up waves. I know the star of the show is still that hunter deadfall build and I've won with it too, but the stasis gameplay was much more enjoyable for me.
i run that same titan build but use enchanced wellspring/incandescent drang and you get ability energy back crazy for melee and grenades after using it. granted it doesn't have devour but it still puts in good work on add clear and ability regen
If I had it my way. Everyone who comments “18 seconds 0 likes falling off” would have their UA-cam account deleted and IP’s blocked from visiting UA-cam. Are people just not original anymore orrrr?
I’m a Titan main and I can’t get off strand. The damage output along with the heals from Banner of war and then the CC when needed is so good in my opinion! Will have to try some of these out though! Been wanting to run my hunter with Gyrfalcons!
im a big renewal enjoyer, and this makes me wanna try it in legend onslaught too used it in gms and master missions before, i love it. Mostly with verglas curve, but for onslaught i might go aegers scepter , a blinding alh gl, and commemoration (rn i think its trace and machinegun surge ;))
I think the first build would be improved by using double special. PSA for anyone in onslaught you do get mercy ammo there so running double special can let you spam stuff like forbearance without issue. The main issue it had was single target damage when you weren’t stacked up properly so having that would help a lot. Edit: Also the same could be applied to the stasis build. I would also argue that song of ir yut with demo and sword logic is just a better machine gun for the build especially in onslaught. For anyone who doesn’t have buried bloodline (like me :/) demo dead messenger should be an ok substitute. As for the first slot I would say run scatter signal with slice and controlled burst to deal with bosses like brigs without an issue. The dr you get against the target is crazy.
You might actually end up getting better mileage off of Phoenix Cradle than Ashen Wake. It extends the Sun Spot Durations and also makes it heal allies. I feel consecration is effective enough without the buff from Pyrogale.
Watching that Renewal Grasp build makes me want to go get the catalyst for Buried Bloodline. We are Coss’ play testers when he saves your build it’s going in the spank bank
I also pair fate bringer with buried bloodline because it has osmosis in 3rd column and can get adrenaline junkie in 4th column. Use buried to proc devour then swap to fate bringer and throw a nade and get more grenades with devour and subclass element weapons kills with fate.
I got the legend 50 wave completion with 1 wor war, 1 strand war, and 1 nightstalker deadfall hunter. Perfect combination 👌 especially with the strand warlock abilities..Mind you only communicating with the wor war 😂
The stasis super likely either got stuck in the wall for the first few seconds or it was tracking onto a boss that was already almost dead @13:20 Squall’s tracking is based on enemy type, it prioritizes high health targets
I really enjoyed using precious scars on my solar Titan with consecration+ roaring flames. Paired with a friend using banner of war we were almost unkillable.
I rock Peregrine grieves, Multimach, ruinous effigy, falling guillotine, using void for the shield bash and bubble, I mostly do ad clear and high value target take downs, not exactly boss, and the simple way to change that is sunshot in place of ruinous, and use solar subclass burning maul with the shoulder charging ability, kick the boss, pop super and slam for ad clear and good boss damage with changing my guillotine into edge transit, that's my build for titan
Not gonna lie the malfeasance lucky pants swap build is nuts. Just switch to Orpheus when popping super. And with trappers step you can have very reliable invis for the rift rooms and boss rooms.
If you don’t have buried bloodline and have a demo/headstone horrors least or tempest from crucible you can pair that with the voltshot sidearm from the dungeon.
25:37 Considering the Witness has a faction of every enemy race under its influence, it's surprising this game mode doesn't have every enemy race possible. My guess it just wasn't feasible with the amount of time they had
Saint 14 build edge of action, bubble obviously, any heavy or primary you like. Give it a go for survivability it top tier pin spawn down with the mini bubble get buffs and a blind rinse and repeat, enemies on the point? Put big or small bubble down blind everything there and protect adu from shots. Not flashy or massive ad clear but the control and survival is top tier
I actually have been using a build very similar to the stasis hunter in the video. The only difference is that I use Ager's Scepter because I don't have Buried Bloodline. It's nice though with Ager's since with every kill it slows and freezes everything in the area, regardless of me having a duskfield grenade on the field or not.
I rock a renewal build with bx5, demolitionist + incandescent. riptide. dragons breath. solar + stasis stack really well with the seasonal mods. insane amount of grenade energy. constantly throwing them.
This just goes to show you that so many exotic armor pieces need some love and buffed. So many of them have been left behind. I'm hoping with the new subclass coming, they can tune a lot of these to work with them as well.
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Thanks for using my build again cross! Whats hilarious is i tried roaring flames after the runs and yet it was so much better 💀💀
How does the ban work? Perma?
@@austinlizarraga4165no immediate unban lmao
@austinlizarraga4165 Nah he unbans them immediately after
@@beacon666except if a build is so terrible to the point it breaks Cross
@speedway3901 I'm curious, have you tried consecration + roaring flames? If you're getting devour from bloodline you might not need the sunspots anyway
Man I'm glad they just added another kind of activity to expand build crafting
It's a great way to use exotics that allow you to hold your ground compared to running and gunning through a strike or dungeon and having to think through dps
@@baltazar514Where Triton Vice had no place before. With Vexcalibur on Void and Edge of Concurrence on Arc, it can finally get some legitimate use now.
Vexcalibur being great for poking stuff. Edge of Concurrence for projectile ad clear.
@@route77productions oooh I recently saw a build using that exotic and I'm excited to try it out in this game mode
It's very refreshing
@@route77productions Maven made a build video for a while back using Unexpected Resurgence which is fun.
This content is actually so peak man, some of the most fun I’ve had watching D2 in a while lol.
Man this already hits. 2ith prismatic, d2 build crafting vids are about to go crazy
agreed i was on the edge of my seat the whole video juts watching the builds pop off
for real man its a blast
Where I’m from ‘peak’ is slang for ‘very bad’
fr i honestly dont know another youtuber that is as engaged with his community as cross is
I've seen a lot of people asking if they can replace buried bloodline for something else in the build I submitted, so I wanted to just give a heads up as to why buried bloodline is such a necessity. When proccing devour, the benefit doesn't come from just getting health back on kills, but also giving back grenade energy spanning from 7.5% - 20% depending on what type of enemy you kill. This works in tandem with shattering your own stasis crystals to receive a 500% grenade recharge rate. Devour helps this grenade spam build essentially lock down entire chokepoints for you with so much uptime on the duskfield grenades. If you don't have buried bloodline to give you devour, you won't be able to spam grenades as much.
I've used a similar build with ager's scepter, You make more cristals so that helps the granade recharge and You are able to freeze a lot of enemies, but it comes in cost of the devour
@lachinio What do you usually rock in your first slot? Would the Boar with chain reaction be a good option here or would an Eysuluna with headstone and relenting be better?
Also i used double special with a desorienting granade launcher
@@deronscott i’m thinking of either running lingering dread with auto loading, disorienting and chill clip, or getting a judgement roll with headstone and adrenaline junkie
I love this build so much. I use a headstone/outlaw eyasluna with it. The headstone crystals just allow so much more shatter than just the devour renewal nades alone.
I tried a judgment and it just doesn’t feel as good as eyasluna.
Glad to see the honeybun build reaching more and more people !
As soon as I saw that consecration over roaring flames on ashen wake build, I just knew the renewal was winning
10:40 Felt the same way until I saw Shaxx single-handedly hold back a wave 49 tormentor, safe to say we go straight for decoy upgrades now
Bro on wave 50 I had a tormentor spawn and I didn’t even have a shax. Just a level 2 decoy and it STILL sat there and tanked the tormentor the entire time. Decoys are 100 percent goated asf in this lol.
@@hatchell18 Not only that, you can repair them with ADU batteries so you can keep them basically permanently if you're not letting the damage bleed through on the ADU.
Whenever I'm up against Fallen in Midtown, I put on Riskrunner. Even on waves 40-50, I feel practically invincible to everything but the Captain's shotguns and the chain lightnight to everything at all times without having to reload is just god tier ad-clearing.
You should try trespasser out too. I pair that with titans eternal warrior and melts everything with the superburst.
Reminds me of the og outbreak mission. Riskrunner carried hard😆
@@endanai299tricksleeve arc hunter with trespasser could possibly be a thing?😆
Ol' reliable Ashen Wake
Pls give it an ornament without nerfing it Bungo
That ain’t gonna happen cause unlike HOIL or Starfire, Ashen Wake isn’t currently the most broken thing
Blight Ranger got an ornament before Ashen Wake. And Blight Ranger is ass.
It needs a buff if anything the grenades can't even nuke yellow bars without roaring flames times 3.dedicating an exotic to 1 ability and still sucking pyrogale is way better even hallowfire is better.
@@s1lentcalib3r theres really not that many abilities capable of oneshotting yellow bars,even frenzied blade with banner takes 2 or even 3 depending upon your exotic and debuff/tractor,the only one that comes to my mind that can truly oneshot yellow bars at gm level is peregrine greaves with offensive/knockout/roaring flames.
Why would it get nerfed? I'm no expert, but it looked completely mid. Most of the work was coming from everything else.
You, mactics, and plunder are responsible for my ever growing list of 20+ builds for all 3 of my characters. Without a doubt one of the most fun things about destiny right now is grabbing all these builds and taking em into onslaught to see how they hold up. Most fun I’ve had with destiny in a good while.
When rocking ashen wake If you use the fragment that drops a fire sprite and firepower + innervation you only need to kill two red bars, or one yellow bar to refresh your grenade. Combine it with roaring flames and you really don’t need consecration.
I saw people using kick-starts and died a little inside. They're not useless, but they have been nerfed so heavily, they are kind of a last resort.
Firesprites, orbs, and ember of benevolence are better for chaining. 2 orb mods means you make em every 5 seconds, and a reaper mod helps too.
Any weapon with heal clip will let you loop solar abilities endlessly in onslaught, heliocentric goated for this
@@jacobcollier4223 if want truly infinite grenades the BXR with Demolitionist and incandescent goes hard. But with ashen wake It’s kinda over kill
Several fragments do that
@@Lorentz_Driver sorry the one that drops firesprites when defeating a scorched enemy, each grenade kill then drops a sprite and an orb
As a filthy casual, I really enjoy watching these builds work.
Honestly if the ashen wake had roaring flames with a solar weapon with demolitionist and adrenalin junkie or incandescent that could have been top tier
It would be good stuff for sure but unless you are running this with someone who is playing stasis or tether sooner or later your ass will be struggling. Those later rounds turn enemies into tanks making those nades less profitable over time. Not saying that it won't work cuz it absolutely will but you will feel the heat..... pun intended. lol
CROSS IS THAT A FUCKING HONEY BUN THE TITAN HOLDING IF SO THATS CRAZY
solar infused (microwaved)
@mr_sax it's clearly toasted. D2 has an exotic toaster for this very reason, there's no exotic microwave
@johnflory3306 wavesplitter my guy, makes great hot pockets
It’s the only way to edge off 2:07 🤭
This is what D2 is all about. Being able to experiment with tons of different ways to play and coming together to try to find the absolute best (of everything).
To those who don't know, you can heal EVERYTHING with the ADU batteries. Decoys, turrets, tripewire, YOURSELF, and enemies... So whatch where you throw them. Lol
Also,...You can activate your class ability immediately after throwing the battery to the ADU and you'll get the battery back to throw a 2nd time at the ADU.
Act accordingly, guardians.
As a hunter, dodge as you throw for a second one. I’ve seen it used for titans and hunters but warlocks (my main) isn’t really able to with rifts 😢
@@Andrew110 from what I've just seen today, you can dupe the batteries a bunch of ways and not just after activating your class ability. Look for "Cheese Forever" here on YT. He shows a bunch of ways to battery dupe for the ADU.
I had a decoy distracting a tormentor and my teammate kept trying to throw the battery at the decoy and he just kept hitting the tormentor over and over and over and over again, it was absurd. I was so confused when I threw a nova bomb, killed some ads, looked back, and he had more health than before I threw my nova bomb
I’ve been running ashen wakes since warmind as my main build, I love these exotics, especially in pvp
Strand Warlock with Thorn and Necrotic Grip has been my favorite with onslaught.
Same. With mindspun invocation and the poison spreading after each death with suspend effects going off is crazy
That shit goes crazyyyyy
Does thorn still pierce targets?
@@joeyno137 Yes.
I've been running as well. What is your solution for health regeneration?
No roaring flames is actually crazy bruh
That build reminded me that most people playing this game have no idea what's going on.
@@Deasy782bruh 💀
No… no its not man.
Wasn’t using any solar weapons. Without solar weapon kills even if you’re getting a lot of grenade kills it’s meh. Hard to get x3 up consistently
dude seeing these onslaught videos brings me much joy, a defense mode is all i ever wanted and now you can build into that which is sick.... Bleak Watcher, Renewal Grasps, i dont know about ward of dawn but like really cool
2:46 YUP that did go under...
And it happens WAY more often than it should. The amount of times I've thought I'd hit some wizards that were close to the ground and it S T I L L f**kin misses is greatly upsetting...
honestly, im new to destiny 2 and his content made me learn so much about this game + its entertaining. i had so much fun watching your videos . every video is a masterpiece , the editing , the content , PURE ENTERTAINMENT
I had so much fun watching this build battle, Cross you and your team are awesome man and to both contenders, great builds, I'll definitely be grabbing that stasis build for DIM and dubbing it.... SAFESIS!!!
You should do Streamer Build battles where you put streamers builds head-to-head and the loser has to gift subs to the winner.
Prismatic build battles gonna go crazy
Honestly the new rule in this BB sounds VERY similar to one of my comments on a previous vid. Love to see you taking up your community's ideas into consideration, even with how big your channel has become. Much love brotherman
Man I loved rocking Ashen Wakes for the longest time on my Titan. Still one of my favorite Solar exotics for them
Holy shit, I'm glad I found this out. I've got some decent builds I think, can't wait to share them!
I’m glad to see someone else using that build for stasis. Been running it for a while with minor tweaks for GMs
I typically use Verglas Curve + Cartesian/Indebted on the Renewal Grasp build. Stasis crystals are so strong with the seasonal artifact
This is such an awesome series!
We needed firefight for sooo long
Been looking for a solid stasis build and this was it, thanks!
Ager's scepter with the renewal grasp build is tons of fun! Definitely don't sleep on that, especially with the instant reload dodge
I don't know, I think this format of build battles does not really show which one is stronger if the whole team is not running the same build, because the other different builds in the fireteam could be compensating the weak points, like the lack of CC in the ashen wake build or the extra dps the solar titan is providing to the renewal grasp build, nonetheless incredible content as always!
I feel like he addresses this a lot. He's constantly pointing out the flaws in his actions, and the bonuses from his teammates, so I'd say he does a good job showing/explaining which is better
That hunter build looks great. Stasis best on all 3 classes confirmed?!?!!
thank u cross for making my night be more entertaining
I’d like to thank the warlock that suggested osmiomancy gloves with travelers chosen for more turrets.
If you're using osmiomancy right you don't need travelers chosen
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199never can have enough turrets tho, with travelers u can have 4 or 5 turrets up easily
My brother in light, please tell more
@@InfInITe0HaTReD since we have anti barrier sidearm using its exotic intrinsic of gathering light to give yourself 10% ability energy per stack. Has osmosis so it’s a stasis weapon for siphon reasons but throw a turret throw a turret eat the stacks off my sidearm throw a third turret. The ability recharge from travelers chosen makes the extra turrets so much faster.
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 if I can get even more turrets and have an anti barrier weapon that gives me back me rift constantly also it’s a very synergistic combination. Of my 2.7 million kills only 140k are warlock kills so my warlocking isn’t top notch and I like easy things.
Salvations grip
Behemoth
Hoarfrost-z
Reliable kinetic and energy maybe for champs, shriekers, and tormentors
Dunno about fallen but need cc? Done, need them dead? Done, need cover? Done, need damage? Done, need healing? Done
Just practice with salvation’s before hand…do not use the explosive mode unless you *absolutely need* to or the target is frozen
It’s great for locking an area down to get some room to breathe for you and your team
Cryoclasm and tectonic harvest with the overshield fragment with whatever other fragments you need but ofc the 1. grenade recharge for breaking a crystal 2. The fragment that buffs shatter damage
and 3. The fragment that offers reduced damage for being near frozen targets and stasis crystals…now while it’s definitely fun i’m not gonna say 3 peeps running this simultaneously is good (turns GMs into strikes) but it’s definitely a vibe
26:20 something neat would be doing a "best of" during the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season where you go back and pit the winners against each other (can be voted on, randomized, or let the winners decide which other winners they want to face), and then having a top 5 best builds of the season at the end to cap off the inaugural season of Build Battles
Hey guys, just a tip: the ADU batteries can also heal turrets and decoys back to max health. You'll be able to hear a faint sound, as if it was healed, that indicates that it worked. Also note that the battery doesn't go away, which means that you can keep spamming the healing mid rounds.
Great runs overall! A lot of times playing safe is the best way, since Onslaught is all about survival at the end of the day!
I ran a similar build with ashen wake but with bxr crafted with enhanced demo and incandescent. Riptide and leviathan breath/salvations grip, sol inv, roaring flames. And it works very well. I cant remember the aspects but the main one is the one thay gives you grenade energy on ignition kills is a must. Precision final blows with the artifact mod creating igntions constantly with demo in the bxr and you'll be throwing fusions non stop almost.
something to remember all my renewal users...through the duskfield directly at your feet and the crystal will sprout up around you...making you immune to all except are burning damage and completely makes you lose aggro. been doing this forever in gms and coil ever since this exotic dropped. absolutely an under rated technique
also side note...a really good weapon for more survivability is manticore. the void overshield damage resist stacks with renewals. and decent damage for a primary. plus if you run the rime fragment...picking up stasis shards will actually increase the duration of your void overshields. only if you have rime equipped though. and also a better fragment to run instead of conduction is torment...since you're a bullet sponge already you're just amping up your grenade gains. happy freezing guys
Cross, for the ashen wake build you should use an osmosis demo weapon
Proc devour then get your solar synergy from throwing grenades as well as get them back faster with demo
I use an extremely similar Renewal Grasps build that I've had since season of the deep, even before, but i use Wicked Implement with catalyst for grenade regen and grenade spam. I want to eventually test if implement is practical enough to take into this mode and be effective. Glad to see these God tier gauntlets getting love again though.
I rock Renewal Grasps a lot right now, probably my favourite build at the moment. I run Lament with it though, which works so well with the duskfields, and since it heals and deals with barrier champs it's very versatile.
severance enclosure with the volatile finisher fragment goes mega hard here, super clutch. I pair it with berried bloodline devour and grenade CD mods (particularly grenade finisher cuz synergy)
The decoys are the best defense imo it's ability to take agro is sooo useful
The renewal grasp build is similar to what I use but I fuel the grenade additionally with melee kills. Also I use Agers Scepter with stasis surge for crystal harvesting. Frankly many people are sleeping on agers right now , I haven’t had this much fun with stasis since beyond light
Bro Assassins Cowl, Arc, and Conditional Finality is the best up close and crazy explosive build I’ve used, in Onslaught it’s crazy!
Vesper of radious is slapping in onslaught
The hunter stasis build with salvation grip makes it so much better by shatterdiving the crystals you get your grenades so fast thanks to one of those aspects
I use Verglas with Renewals and Shatterdive. You get those stacks of Hail Barrage refunded but you need to know where to place them. Shattering those crystals when on top of enemies won’t count. If enemies are near them and die to shatter damage, they’ll be refunded.
Much better for me at least. Don’t have to worry about managing ammo.
Consecration is so criminally underused considering it gives you a third melee type and is incredibly powerful at clearing rooms and heavy clusters of targets
Titan throwing a honey bun
Finally got all 50 and it was super smooth with triple stasis. Renewal grasp for clutch points. Statis titan for blocking off alleys, osimomancy with agers scepter for crowd control
In any game that features them, having decoys or goons that you can deploy is GOATed. Everyone always underestimates them, but pet/summoner/decoy builds are outrageous in PvE content where the enemies are forced to switch aggro, or otherwise aren't smart enough to focus down the players. It's that way in Diablo, WoW works on those rules for all their tanks, and it's still true here as well. I'm not shocked at all that the Shaxx decoy is so dominant. Stasis is also king in Onslaught for the same reason. CC, baby.
I’m a fan of the use blade barrage like a grenade with shards build
My old s22 renewal grasps build! Neat
When u use ashen wake things to remember 4 kills with the nade is instant nade back to u ( if u have grenade kickstart armor charge or firespirits count as a kill ) and u need a reliable way to pump out either orbs or firespirits easiest change u can make is a atrrition orbs primary gun
gyrfalcon hunter + destabilizing rounds/repulsor brace. I use the title smg, but you can always craft a gun with it and get the upgraded perks.
honestly, both builds looked pretty fun!
The titan build with polaris is fantastic
Thanks for using all my builds again. Clap .. BTW run whatever frosty build and use Wintersbite really lean in. WB is a boss many little baby boss stomper
let’s go Ep 16 Finale, Can’t wait for what kinda crazy builds are gonna be in Season 2
I’m using the same hunter build but since I don’t have the exotic I’m using a headstone vulpecula with indebted kindness and dragons breath or the craftable raconteur bow with archers/headstone. It’s a fun build when you get sick of running tether
That acolyte killed you slow and steady all by himself. he was literally right next to you the whole time you just ignored him cause you didn’t think he was a threat
i was about to submit this exact hunter build when i logged onto the live saw you showcasing it. its goated
I played it because some youtuber recommended to try stasis and then I see this video posted!
I got my first 50 using a build very similar to the hunter stasis build. You basically sacrifice kills for control and I think it's a good trade, especially in the 30 and up waves. I know the star of the show is still that hunter deadfall build and I've won with it too, but the stasis gameplay was much more enjoyable for me.
Yeah with that first build I was also questioning the same things about this build as well... Especially with that sidearm choice... 🤨🧐
The sidearm was for anti barrier and to proc devour for more grenades. Don't think he utilized devour as well as he could've
"The Great Build Off" Amazing!!!
Osmiomancy gloves are incredible in terms of ad clear. Having a blast playing Onslaught with those.
Crowd control*
Big difference between ad clear and crowd control.
Osmiomancy is crowd control.
i run that same
titan build but use enchanced wellspring/incandescent drang and you get ability energy back crazy for melee and grenades after using it. granted it doesn't have devour but it still puts in good work on add clear and ability regen
For the stasis build, you could use a weapon with headstone on. Or use the exotic scout
If I had it my way. Everyone who comments “18 seconds 0 likes falling off” would have their UA-cam account deleted and IP’s blocked from visiting UA-cam. Are people just not original anymore orrrr?
Execution. Guillotine.
Execution. Guillotine.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's pathetic...
I’m a Titan main and I can’t get off strand. The damage output along with the heals from Banner of war and then the CC when needed is so good in my opinion! Will have to try some of these out though! Been wanting to run my hunter with Gyrfalcons!
im a big renewal enjoyer, and this makes me wanna try it in legend onslaught too
used it in gms and master missions before, i love it. Mostly with verglas curve, but for onslaught i might go aegers scepter , a blinding alh gl, and commemoration (rn i think its trace and machinegun surge ;))
I think the first build would be improved by using double special.
PSA for anyone in onslaught you do get mercy ammo there so running double special can let you spam stuff like forbearance without issue.
The main issue it had was single target damage when you weren’t stacked up properly so having that would help a lot.
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Also the same could be applied to the stasis build. I would also argue that song of ir yut with demo and sword logic is just a better machine gun for the build especially in onslaught. For anyone who doesn’t have buried bloodline (like me :/) demo dead messenger should be an ok substitute.
As for the first slot I would say run scatter signal with slice and controlled burst to deal with bosses like brigs without an issue. The dr you get against the target is crazy.
I’ve been using gyrfalcon with buried bloodline heritage and commemoration and it has been amazing
Agers scepter w mantle of battle harmony went crazy
You might actually end up getting better mileage off of Phoenix Cradle than Ashen Wake. It extends the Sun Spot Durations and also makes it heal allies. I feel consecration is effective enough without the buff from Pyrogale.
Run wicked implement with the renewal build!! Play a little more passive but way better crowd control since you have more crystals
Watching that Renewal Grasp build makes me want to go get the catalyst for Buried Bloodline.
We are Coss’ play testers when he saves your build it’s going in the spank bank
Super honey bun build is insane 😭😭
I also pair fate bringer with buried bloodline because it has osmosis in 3rd column and can get adrenaline junkie in 4th column. Use buried to proc devour then swap to fate bringer and throw a nade and get more grenades with devour and subclass element weapons kills with fate.
Deadfall with orpheus rig. That shit is the bomb close to 400 orbs at 50 rounds on legend had a blade barrage hunter on the team and it was beautiful
I got the legend 50 wave completion with 1 wor war, 1 strand war, and 1 nightstalker deadfall hunter. Perfect combination 👌 especially with the strand warlock abilities..Mind you only communicating with the wor war 😂
The stasis super likely either got stuck in the wall for the first few seconds or it was tracking onto a boss that was already almost dead @13:20
Squall’s tracking is based on enemy type, it prioritizes high health targets
I really enjoyed using precious scars on my solar Titan with consecration+ roaring flames. Paired with a friend using banner of war we were almost unkillable.
Vesper of Radius arc and playing aggressive in spawns is extremely good
A weapon id suggest giving a fair shake is dimensional, the waveframe heavy GL. it can put in work against larger groups pf onslaught adds
I rock Peregrine grieves, Multimach, ruinous effigy, falling guillotine, using void for the shield bash and bubble, I mostly do ad clear and high value target take downs, not exactly boss, and the simple way to change that is sunshot in place of ruinous, and use solar subclass burning maul with the shoulder charging ability, kick the boss, pop super and slam for ad clear and good boss damage with changing my guillotine into edge transit, that's my build for titan
oh hey same stasis build i use for day 1 kings fall, so nice so safe, works with aeon on warpriest as well
Not gonna lie the malfeasance lucky pants swap build is nuts. Just switch to Orpheus when popping super. And with trappers step you can have very reliable invis for the rift rooms and boss rooms.
Who needs to hide if you have a different build and everything is just dead. Lol
@@death_forsale1362 the stomps from the boss are very inconsistent
If you don’t have buried bloodline and have a demo/headstone horrors least or tempest from crucible you can pair that with the voltshot sidearm from the dungeon.
25:37 Considering the Witness has a faction of every enemy race under its influence, it's surprising this game mode doesn't have every enemy race possible. My guess it just wasn't feasible with the amount of time they had
Renewal grasps with eyasluna - unrelenting and headstone for getting health back and more shards for more over shields
Saint 14 build edge of action, bubble obviously, any heavy or primary you like. Give it a go for survivability it top tier pin spawn down with the mini bubble get buffs and a blind rinse and repeat, enemies on the point? Put big or small bubble down blind everything there and protect adu from shots. Not flashy or massive ad clear but the control and survival is top tier
I actually have been using a build very similar to the stasis hunter in the video. The only difference is that I use Ager's Scepter because I don't have Buried Bloodline. It's nice though with Ager's since with every kill it slows and freezes everything in the area, regardless of me having a duskfield grenade on the field or not.
I rock a renewal build with bx5, demolitionist + incandescent. riptide. dragons breath. solar + stasis stack really well with the seasonal mods. insane amount of grenade energy. constantly throwing them.
This just goes to show you that so many exotic armor pieces need some love and buffed. So many of them have been left behind. I'm hoping with the new subclass coming, they can tune a lot of these to work with them as well.