Ml7 just released a video talking about illari and how she "shoots people and they don't die", and that "she should have her damage or fire rate buffed", well, little did he know it's not that her damage is low, it's literally just the season 9 hp increase + healing creep
It's wild how people genuinely think this. Bap's damage only competes with Cass if he's landing all three rounds (70 vs. 75 base damage). Seeing as John hit three headshots and three bodyshots here, Bap would need to hit 9 headshots (as well as 9 bodyshots) to outdamage Cass, which is not realistic at all. You can't track the head that well. Illari does have an effective range advantage, but this is completely negated by her headshot multiplier and slow rate of fire. At that range, Cass headshots are doing similar damage to Illari headshots, but with a faster rate of fire. The only one likely getting that kill is Zen, but he is squishier than Cass and shoots projectiles, it's hardly a fair comparison. More to the point Cass has been reworked to be a short range brawler. If you pick him onto longer ranged maps like Gibraltar, instead of Ashe or Widow or Proj, he's designed to struggle in his current state. That really has nothing to do with the support cast. The problem here is NOT Supp damage. It's Brig packs (insanely easy value and apply a burst+sustained heal), and arguably Cass range, but that's a specific choice they've gone with to give him a more distinct niche.
I still dont know why they nerfed the range again , cass wasn't even meta in past seasons. Just increasing range would be enough , dont even care if they turn back the nonsense damage buff to grenade to balance it
Oh, so That's what's happening and why I can only play mid-close range now. Before it was possible to even kill the widows if they were bad positioned.
Finally someone who spits facts. Cassidy feels so outdated and it’s sad because he’s my main. Sometimes it feels so little rewarding to headshot that tracer when while doing that the whole team got the other 4 kills. 😢 Then come Kiriko, Bap, Illari or Zen and you’re basically done if you’re not lucky.
Also, have you guys realized that when you unload the barell you barelly hit teh targets? I realized that cause I went to play the classic overwatch and suddenly I could hit people with the barell shots. Like, this si not how you balance a character!!! I ratehr have the granade back to what it was than have this bs
Genji doesn't need it tho he's a dive assassin he has movements to engage and disengage cass has no sustain or movement and is supposed to be a midrange hitscan but his damage is actual dookie at that range
@@CouchPotatoCrusader Genji does literally no damage and it's disgusting. Mcree players need to chill out and take a back seat after what they've done to Genji as a hero
@@douchenozzlemcgee6111 the problem with genji is that he's like "poke until an opportunity to dive" character where his poke damage is trash and until there's an opportunity to dive he gets nothing done. Other divers like tracer don't have this problem as she doesn't have windows where she gets nothing done. The best playstle for genji is to farm ult as fast and as often as possible as his blade is arguably one of the best ultimates and that's how he's played at higher play and the juno meta has definitely helped him make a comeback
still think the damage falloff is too brainrot Wanna dmg? Then u need come closer. come closer for dmg? Then u dead, because u have no chance to escapes. for escape the problem,blizzard turn ow into action game,creating new hero of Not much need to aim but can easy beat out others hero,and they think it's great idea, but NO, IT'S AUFUL ! play your game to know the problem okay?
i think cassidy does decent damage. i've got killed by a good cass with 2 headshots in close-mid ranges and later a mercy just stick in his butt, ermpowering his damage... did you know what a pain is when a god cass is empowered/pocked by mercy...? i know Ash can do it better in a long distances, but we're talking about a freaking cowboy moving around with a big revolver and a grenade.
Cas worst hero in OW. Wanna dmg? Then u need come closer. Wanna come closer? Then u dead, because u have no escapes. See snipers? No. It they see u. U can only hide and looking how snipers kill all of ur team. BTW. ALL dps heroes has escapes. Except Cas... Why? Like.... 4 headshots for killing someone in distance...?
lol I can still remember when players complain about Hanzo's scatter arrow and Dev reworked that ability and gave him Lunge as extra for no reason. Look at Cass now still same old turtle ass character that has to rely on many hero to be able to work on most maps.
Cass has hinder, the nade does 75 fuckin damage despite being a free ability to hit, and he can two tap the entire squishy roster within range. Stop whining.
@@mr.rainc0at614 His shtick has always been close-mid range, why are we acting like it’s a bad thing when the character that can completely shut down every single highly mobile character (who are frequently the best characters in the game because of said mobility) can’t just sit there and snipe across the map for free. He can’t have something that strong in his kit while being 100% effective at all ranges.
@@GearbieFPSYeah instead Juno’s can heal and damage multiple targets simultaneously from range, and Ana’s nade stops healing which is arguably more powerful. Stop trying to downplay Cass’ shortcomings
Meanwhile: Mei, Reaper, Junkrat, Soldier, Brig, Moira, Kiriko, Orisa, Mauga providing value to your team by existing (unless you're like REAAALLYY bad with aim and positioning) with minimal mechanical skill. But yeah. Just cause he's American he's apparently super OP despite the fact that if you can't aim you won't bring much value to your team. Saying Cass is OP and should be removed is just blatantly announcing that it is a skill issue.
@@Brandarr they legit gave him a flash bang cc on low cooldown , after that a homing missle flashbang, the whole community had to come together to get him nerfed lol? what is wrong with you .... talk about sym , or doom or tracer heroes taht take skill ... a point and click hero with bullets that take half of your hp per headshot who doesn't have to charge a shot is outrageous...
“They’re hard to hit, these small targets”
Proceeds to blow tracers brains out with a long range headshot
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"Thats walmart zbra"
Hey man you dont gotta be that disrespect- oh his name is actually walmart zbra
“Not enough damage? Alr buff nade damage on Cassidy, final offer”
Fun fact: at 22 meters, only 2 meters away of his maximum dmg range, Cass no longer kills a Widow in 3 shots
i love how the entire top 500 dps roster is just widowmaker, we truly need another junkrat nerf 🙏
Ml7 just released a video talking about illari and how she "shoots people and they don't die", and that "she should have her damage or fire rate buffed", well, little did he know it's not that her damage is low, it's literally just the season 9 hp increase + healing creep
They need to switch around how supports do more damage than dps do...
4:47 Illari, Bap or even a Zen would have gotten that done
only illari bc she got insta dmg like cassidy
@@Narum18 bap is also hitscan
It's wild how people genuinely think this. Bap's damage only competes with Cass if he's landing all three rounds (70 vs. 75 base damage). Seeing as John hit three headshots and three bodyshots here, Bap would need to hit 9 headshots (as well as 9 bodyshots) to outdamage Cass, which is not realistic at all. You can't track the head that well.
Illari does have an effective range advantage, but this is completely negated by her headshot multiplier and slow rate of fire. At that range, Cass headshots are doing similar damage to Illari headshots, but with a faster rate of fire.
The only one likely getting that kill is Zen, but he is squishier than Cass and shoots projectiles, it's hardly a fair comparison.
More to the point Cass has been reworked to be a short range brawler. If you pick him onto longer ranged maps like Gibraltar, instead of Ashe or Widow or Proj, he's designed to struggle in his current state. That really has nothing to do with the support cast.
The problem here is NOT Supp damage. It's Brig packs (insanely easy value and apply a burst+sustained heal), and arguably Cass range, but that's a specific choice they've gone with to give him a more distinct niche.
@@Nyxtia you forgot most overwatch players are sheeps
and only look at numbers and not how it plays out in a match
@@Nyxtiainteresting how you came with facts and they got real quiet suddenly
i think the problem is on the healer damage, i still dont know how an Illary or a Kiriko have more damage and less fall off range than a DPS
illari more damage? since when? she does 0 damage right now
@@el_dragunovno illari does too much damage and she should be nerfed
@@kinisiko i didn't feel that when i face illari's and i saw people crying they are doing less damage
@@kinisiko in fact, i'm reading right now Illari's headshot now does 105 and body shot does 70. She's got nerfed recently. your prayers were heard
so the reason cass does no damage is because supports do more?got it
I still dont know why they nerfed the range again , cass wasn't even meta in past seasons. Just increasing range would be enough , dont even care if they turn back the nonsense damage buff to grenade to balance it
blizzard ☕
Oh, so That's what's happening and why I can only play mid-close range now. Before it was possible to even kill the widows if they were bad positioned.
What if they cave cass 2 roll charges so he could gap close to play his effective range and still have an escape option
cassidy: tumbleweed edition
What if we gave him a stamina bar and I frames for every roll
@@noservice1730 He'd become John Dark Souls himself.
love how emongg always says ’hindah’
Reaper is the new Reaper, Cass is the old Reaper but without teleportation
and no lifesteal, less HP, a worse escape tool and so on....
IS WANTED A MARVEL 3 PLAYER??? I HEARD THAT IRON MAN THEME
03:04 that was hilarious.
Buff falloff, buff nade range. Do it already.
3:05 hahaha nice edit
Finally someone who spits facts. Cassidy feels so outdated and it’s sad because he’s my main. Sometimes it feels so little rewarding to headshot that tracer when while doing that the whole team got the other 4 kills. 😢 Then come Kiriko, Bap, Illari or Zen and you’re basically done if you’re not lucky.
He just have water gun 🔫💦 now
I started a 1 trick Mcree account 2 days ago. And I'm loving it for now. But i only just unlocked comp so let's see how long it lasts 😂
From 8:32 no more Cassidy gameplay.
Also, have you guys realized that when you unload the barell you barelly hit teh targets? I realized that cause I went to play the classic overwatch and suddenly I could hit people with the barell shots. Like, this si not how you balance a character!!! I ratehr have the granade back to what it was than have this bs
Give him a new ult and put high noon on a 20 sec cd
Am i wrong to think that his problem isn't damage but his piss poor range?
You have to be prime OWL Pine just to do damage with Cass it's insane. His damage is buttcheeks
Is it just me or when you start duo you start taking L’s?
I've been saying this for a while but PLEASE buff his range even if by a little. 😭🙏
I think it's time to evolve and switch games maybe marvel rivals? I'm tired of waiting for them to do a good balance of this game.
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“F-A-R-M-I-NG
We are getting fucking farmed”
Bro cassy is the number 1 pick on every rank if u want to see no dmg start play genji
Genji doesn't need it tho he's a dive assassin he has movements to engage and disengage cass has no sustain or movement and is supposed to be a midrange hitscan but his damage is actual dookie at that range
@@CouchPotatoCrusader Genji does literally no damage and it's disgusting. Mcree players need to chill out and take a back seat after what they've done to Genji as a hero
@@douchenozzlemcgee6111 the problem with genji is that he's like "poke until an opportunity to dive" character where his poke damage is trash and until there's an opportunity to dive he gets nothing done. Other divers like tracer don't have this problem as she doesn't have windows where she gets nothing done. The best playstle for genji is to farm ult as fast and as often as possible as his blade is arguably one of the best ultimates and that's how he's played at higher play and the juno meta has definitely helped him make a comeback
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Long range headshots shouls count as normal dmg head.
Cass definitely needs the range nerf reverted his range feels so so bad rn
First, also bro bring back old Cassidy 😭
still think the damage falloff is too brainrot
Wanna dmg? Then u need come closer.
come closer for dmg? Then u dead, because u have no chance to escapes.
for escape the problem,blizzard turn ow into action game,creating new hero of Not much need to aim but can easy beat out others hero,and they think it's great idea,
but NO, IT'S AUFUL ! play your game to know the problem okay?
consecutive shots or crits landed increase damage counter raid boss mechanic
i think cassidy does decent damage. i've got killed by a good cass with 2 headshots in close-mid ranges and later a mercy just stick in his butt, ermpowering his damage... did you know what a pain is when a god cass is empowered/pocked by mercy...? i know Ash can do it better in a long distances, but we're talking about a freaking cowboy moving around with a big revolver and a grenade.
Cas worst hero in OW.
Wanna dmg? Then u need come closer.
Wanna come closer? Then u dead, because u have no escapes.
See snipers? No. It they see u. U can only hide and looking how snipers kill all of ur team.
BTW. ALL dps heroes has escapes. Except Cas... Why?
Like.... 4 headshots for killing someone in distance...?
lol I can still remember when players complain about Hanzo's scatter arrow and Dev reworked that ability and gave him Lunge as extra for no reason. Look at Cass now still same old turtle ass character that has to rely on many hero to be able to work on most maps.
Maybe swap hero..
Weird
first :3
Cass has hinder, the nade does 75 fuckin damage despite being a free ability to hit, and he can two tap the entire squishy roster within range. Stop whining.
‘within range’ dude. Its a bloody revolver not a shotgun. He has TF2 Spy’s classic in a game where Ana 3 taps people.
Juno can do auto aim 85 damage to multiple people...ana nade does 90 damage..
@@mr.rainc0at614 His shtick has always been close-mid range, why are we acting like it’s a bad thing when the character that can completely shut down every single highly mobile character (who are frequently the best characters in the game because of said mobility) can’t just sit there and snipe across the map for free. He can’t have something that strong in his kit while being 100% effective at all ranges.
@@CouchPotatoCrusader neither of which lock out escape abilities while also massively slowing
@@GearbieFPSYeah instead Juno’s can heal and damage multiple targets simultaneously from range, and Ana’s nade stops healing which is arguably more powerful.
Stop trying to downplay Cass’ shortcomings
cass too op , you trippin, because he's american they always gave him stupid abilities, cass should be removed period....
Meanwhile: Mei, Reaper, Junkrat, Soldier, Brig, Moira, Kiriko, Orisa, Mauga providing value to your team by existing (unless you're like REAAALLYY bad with aim and positioning) with minimal mechanical skill. But yeah. Just cause he's American he's apparently super OP despite the fact that if you can't aim you won't bring much value to your team. Saying Cass is OP and should be removed is just blatantly announcing that it is a skill issue.
@@Brandarr they legit gave him a flash bang cc on low cooldown , after that a homing missle flashbang, the whole community had to come together to get him nerfed lol? what is wrong with you .... talk about sym , or doom or tracer heroes taht take skill ... a point and click hero with bullets that take half of your hp per headshot who doesn't have to charge a shot is outrageous...