Rage chat and this video is so biased. They dont know shitt ab football. They r right ab messi being like curry. Cus just like curry he was camping at one team his whole career😂. And now he joined a super team
And the only guy to make me watch that with a smile on my face throughout the whole thing😂 i never heard of this dude before this video but these were the best 45 minutes ive had on youtube
There's this quote that goes something like "If a magician made a footballer it would be Messi. If an engineer made a footballer it would be Ronaldo." Both undisputed GOATs. Both great at what they do and bring to a team, there is just no point in entertaining the "who is better" debate. They can BOTH be great!!
@@AsamatBagatov135 people who think Ronaldo is better are the most ignorant people ever, you don’t have to be a Messi fan to realize he’s better, the stats say he’s better, and just watching them you can tell who’s better
That chat was lying like crazy, can’t believe people were saying Messi had a better team than CR7. They were both on great teams, that RM disrespect is crazy.
No it's very accurate all these stats are made to make Messi look better Messi had team made around him meanwhile Ronaldo had a superteam so he had out perform them and also be compatible Y'all ppl forget psg Messi huh? Compare both overall Ronaldo is way better Messi can't clutch by himself he needs assets only then he performs
Great reaction 😂 Don’t know if this will help you, but Kobe liked Messi 😂 Personally I think Messi is the 🐐, but as a newbie you have to understand that Messi and Ronaldo are two completely different players with different styles, strengths and body types. Ronaldo relies to pure physicality and is a goal machine although he is fast approaching the end of his career (he’s 38 in February). Messi is extremely gifted technically and practically has the ball glued to his foot. The reason why Messi is my 🐐 is simple. He not only scores goals but he also creates them as well due to his incredible passing ability, his playmaking, vision and technical IQ. - Drum roll Messi/ Ronaldo war 😂 There are numerous videos that you can watch of both players so you can decide for yourself. I also recommend you check out football for Americans so you get an idea of the game. The players you need to see are Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Beckham, Xavi, Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland, for starters 😉 Btw this video is out of date by about 3 years I think as Messi has now won the Copa America in 2021 👍
@@dexterous0215stats don’t lie buddy. And Ik u only think that cuz his long shots n shit even tho it means absolutely nothing how the ball goes in the net. Watching Messi is far better because he does things that nobody can do, but Ronaldo does things that Plenty of other players have already done like (long shots, bicycle kicks etc) He just takes it to another level. That’s the difference between them two. Messi the goat🐐.
lots of u biased messi fans here. but the truth is, to a person with high football knowledge, these doesnt matter. u cant compare these two players with two different play-style, physic, teams, positions, heights etc... u gotta be either a kid or have a low football knowledge to say one is better than the other. two greatest players with their own values.
@@bigballs7801nah, in terms of footballing ability Messi is better, look at his passing, his vision, the way he creates chances for other players, Messi literally dribbles past a whole defence on his own and scores, I never seen anyone do that. Ronaldo is a goat too, but Messi is that little bit better
No disrespect to the Ronaldo fans out there but there’s no way u watch Messi and don’t think he’s the goat the guy is unbelievable Edit: Well the debate is officially over Messi has won the wc and completed football, better than Ronaldo for sure🐐💯
When messi has the most goals ever, the most CL, most CL goals and assists, most international goals, then I’ll agree. Until then, he a one trick Barka pony
I'm at the age where I don't even say who's the GOAT and its more of a appreciation of watching 2 of the greatest play at the same times I personally like Ronaldo more but I still like Messi
@@JohanDsntSleep but it's incorrect..that's the problem...the evidence was literally presented to you and you're still saying there's an argument😂😂there is no argument..Messi clears every single time
Real shit. The thing about Messi that people don't understand is that if he didn't have the growth problems he'd most likely of grown up to be even taller and even more of a threat inside the penalty box. The crazy part is even despite that Messi is still a better player then other more physically gifted players.
@@pittaaaabread only IF he didnt have growth problems...but he has growth problems and thats all that matters. If's dont matter. We can also say ıf ronaldo didnt have that knee injury he would be a better player too.
@@cinaroz0607 So he would have been a better passer/playmaker, has better IQ, Vision or a better freekick-taker? Not to mention Messi having a better goal/goal-assist ratio😤
@@pittaaaabread There's a trade off though. If Messi was bigger he would be better at headers but he would also definitely be worse at dribbling through defenders. Messi, Maradona, and Pele are all under 5'9 and they are in most people's top 5 all time.
@@pittaaaabread Mf you are giving excuses and that what real man do convert his problem to solution. I can assure you have a less IQ because this how world works in real life
14:48 bro tried bringing up Messi’s past teammates like Ronaldo didn’t have bale, benzema, kroos, modric, Ramos, and Marcelo💀 They both had amazing squads but now that Messi has a World Cup he’s the GOAT🐐
Nah bro I think Messi’s the goat but modric was considered one of the worst transfers at that time, he’s also a midfielder so he wouldnt be in attacking positions as much, benzema only entered his prime after Ronaldo left Real Madrid also Ramos and Marcelo are defenders so ofc Messi would have more assists
As a ronaldo fan ngl messi is more complete as a player and career, statwise, etc. But Ronaldo seems like his career really has juice more than anyone else.
Man I can't even lie, this video is a bit biased towards Messi - from a Messi fan. Didn't really show any Ronaldo clips and didn't give full contexts like teams they played in, leagues they played in and positions they played in - which all favour Messi. Love them both though
ronaldo can't do it outside madrid "best teammates" literally madrid was already the best team with the most champions leagues before ronaldo arrived meanwhile barcelona only had one before Messi, barcelona is now playing europa league 2 years in a row after messi left and after penaldo left madrid still won another champions . If Messi played in madrid he would already have 10 champions and 14 ballon d'ors and thats fax
@@hasibalfuad9652 go cry somewhere else bro. I've watched both for more than a decade and know is a matter of preference but no one is clear than the other. You'll realize how special they were when they retire I promise you
For me it was always like this, if you want someone to go to war with, Someone you want to fight to your limits in that war, I would always go with Ronaldo. But if you want a safe and cleaner win, then it’s definitely Messi.
@@AstroSully yea, in the video only meSsi got highlighted when he said there are stats that they didn’t measure of Messi because it can’t be measured. But the exact same thing, if not more goes for Ronaldo, especially if you look at the mental department.
@@Mo_A7__ True with Maradona, the others use skill/flair. Messi uses his body like no other. His way of dribbling is to me the definition of it, and to beat people without the use of stopover’s etc and to only rely on faints and ball control is unmatched.
@@tegx5997 fair enough each have their own preference on who they think is better. I lean a bit more towards ronaldo but I can see the other side,I think it’s a debate and it always will be one. The fans are the most annoying part where they just can’t pick their favourite and appreciate the other.
Whenever people want to bring NBA into the discussion, calling Messi a MJ does him a disservice. And I'm an MJ fan too. Messi is more like Jordan x Magic put into one player. We're talking about a player that could avg 35 ppg while averaging 14 assists per game. Likewise, calling Messi a Lebron does him a disservice because you could make the case that LeBron doesn't have the scoring skills of other players, where as you can't do that with Messi. He's not only statistically the best scorer and assister, but also an extremely skillful player. The only reason why I would hesitate on Jordan x Magic, is because Magic had some Ronaldinho type plays.
@@PessiTheFraud I generally don't like to compare players across sports, but if I had to I think that is the best comparison (MJ x Magic). Reason being is that Messi in his best seasons was the assist leader and goal leader in the same seasons. Basically the assists leader and scoring leader (at a historic pace btw). How else would you put Messi into NBA terms? Wilt?
I know I'm late, but the reason Ronaldo is considered better by some is mostly because of PR reasons. He is considered more attractive (he has more contracts with luxury brands, and does more photoshoots) is taller, more athletic (jumps higher, runs faster), was a big part of one of the most famous teams in the most popular league (Manchester United in the Premier League), etc. Also, making them out as rivals made their matches against each other (mostly El Classico in La Liga, which already was one of the biggest football rivalries; Barcelona vs Real Madrid) more marketable. They also "emerged" around the same time, early to mid 2000s and had long and prosperous careers.
@@yaw_ no one said anything about best, but he was easily the most famous for pretty much a decade or more, people in america to this day go crazy for him
Instead of comparing them to each other, if you compare them to the rest of football, there is no competition. They’re truly the best. Love to both players ❤️
Nah, Messi can't be compared to a NBA player, because he'd be a combination. Kyrie Handles, Steph Shooting, MJ scoring. He's got it all. The best of all time. People always bring up the position excuse to boost the Ronaldo case, but they forget Messi is as good, if no better, at scoring as Ronaldo while not being a striker himself.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
What people don’t understand is 1 you can’t even compare those two that much cuz both of them have completly difrent play styles. 2 like the guy on the vid said , ronaldo maked those numbers in difrent ligues where messi allways stayed in barcelona until now a couple months ago changed finally to psg. You can never say who’s really better , when they had completly difrent career’s. Messi whas the goat in his own style and ronaldo in his. But good video from that guy still ✌🏽
Messi is clearly better whether in stats or by the eye test, Outplayed and scored against Ronaldo’s teams in the 09 CL final and ‘11 CL semi, has 11WC knockout g/a( with two in the final) while Ronaldo has 0 World Cup knockout g/a😭
@@ousmanjallow7866 Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
This video biased towards messi but ronaldo is way more clutch and competed in different leagues across his career, messi hasn’t turned up for a big game in years
@@Peter.Parkerbecause it is biased idiot the guy was showing Ronaldo misses and dickriding Messi constantly the truth is both of them are great but this video completely ignores Ronaldo clutch factor how he 3 peated the champions league and played in harder leagues also is outdated as Ronaldo now has the most goals in football history international football history and champions league history (that one he just failed to mention) used useless stats instead of actually telling their career story how Messi started with a super team and Ronaldo had to start from the bottom very very biased video
The list is techically 1. Messi 2. Ronaldo And so on. If we take this serious it should be 1. Messi 2. Ronaldo. Ronaldo is great but hes not close to messi
I’m a Messi fan but, the video left out a lot of context that Ronaldo has over Messi, like clutchness and being the player in 3 different top 5 leagues. Also, winning the Golden Boot and Ballon D’or for 2 different teams (One of them being for Manchester United during the most competitive premier league era at 23 years old). I still give messi the edge but the video seemed a bit biased.
It seemed biased because messi is so good that it’s not supposed to look close. When you going off of preferences it seems close but after you analyze both of them Messi doesn’t even seem human.
@@King-rudy i mean bro not mentioning the things ronaldo has done in big games, i.e hatricks against wolfsburg, atletico, bayern etc. I think it was defo worth mentioning
@@MrWumboJumbo what clutchness Messi has more goals as a sub coming on Messi has more goals in the last ten mins and in finals I didn't even mention assists because we know he has more of those by default
Yeah they also had different roles in their specific teams, Cristiano was the goal scorer and messi was the playmaker. Ronaldo played very differently in the beginning of his career, Messi also had better players around him which really puts into perspective why he has so many assists. If you've seen Cristiano play in his prime you'd actually see him pass the ball all the time but his teammates would no finish so he had to take matters into his own hands. In my personal opinion I prefer Cristiano because he's a leader which is a quality that Messi lacks, and Cristiano is the more clutch player. If I need a goal in a final I'd go Cristiano 1000%
messi has more goals in finals though... theyre both very clutch players and have clutch moments so you cant say that ronaldo is more clutch. and are you really saying that 08 man united team was bad? Messi from 2017-2021 has had even shittier teammates
@@anton-3359 08 United was a legendary team, But Dont try to compare an old Scholes and Carrick to an iniesta and Xavi bro 😂. Messi was part of the best front 3 of all time while Ronaldo had a Brick Benzema and an extremely underwhelming Bale for most of his time at Madrid. Messi isnt as clutch as Cristiano, Messi literally missed 2 penalties in crucial finals and he’s been stuck in the Quarters of the UCL since 2016, In key moments Messi is just underwhelming. For Messi having better stats than Cristiano its strange how Cristiano when it comes to club and national achievements he excells. At the end of the day its a Team Sport its not an individual one
@@ItsAndy__ im not gonna start to argue about their teams because theyve both had amazing and bad teammates. but fact is that cristiano needs to be in the spotlight even when he has the best teammates😂 while messi makes his teammates better in every aspect. ur bringing up a couple curcial penalty missed as if that matters in this😭 remember 08/09 cl final? or the 2 misses in cl semi finals from ronaldo?
@@anton-3359 Bro The fact of the matter is that Messi has played with better players in his Career, My guy played the best midfielders in Xavi and Iniesta, Played with Suarez and Neymar and now plays with Mbappe and Neymar 😭
@@ItsAndy__ ofc he played with good players but ur just listing players how does that matter in the goat convo lol just watch them both play and youll know that messi is so clear. ur acting like cristiano played with bums when he played with ozil, kaka, modric, marcelo, rooney, xabi alonso, di maria, nani, bale and benzema all in their prime😭
Im from Europe and im grateful for being able to watch this 2 on their prime, im so glad that Americans are giving football more attention thanks to IShowSpeed. I would never guess Rage recording a football themed video. 😁
football is far less deterministic than basketball. It is much harder to judge a player based of accolades in football when compared to basketball. With that being said , any person who has played football and watched football during messi and ronaldo's prime will tell you without a doubt that Messi is the greatest human being to touch the ball.
Messi is official GOAL,greatful to watch God of football playing and winning the worldcup after so many unfortunate loss and denial by own people. Messi was the most deserving player to carry that world cup. Witnessed greatness.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
Why they say Messi had the better team but then go and say shit like Karoo’s/Modric > Xavi/Iniesta, Ramos/Varane>Puyol/Pique, Casillas>Valdez or Ter Stegen and Casemiro>Busquets These fools are lying through their teeth
People who say Messi always has the better team are really sad Ronaldo fans. Ronaldo joined Man United in 2003, let's look at Man United before that, they won the English Premier League in 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01, 2002-03, so he basically joined a team who was DOMINATING their league. He won a Champions League with them in 2007-2008, lost a final to Barcelona in 2009 and left, this same Man United went to another champions league final with the same players just two years after he left. He then joined Madrid in 2009, which is the greatest club in football history, the same Madrid who won La Liga in 2006-07 and 2007-08, so again he joined a good team, he won two Ligas with them and won 4 champions leagues, he left, two years later Madrid with the same squad made it to the Champions League semi finals and lost to Chelsea who won that title, the year after that they won the champions league. Seems like a very good team to me. He joined Juventus in 2018, let's now look at Juventus before he joined, they won the Serie A in 2011-12, 2012-13, 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16, 2016-17, 2017-18, so again, he joined a team who was DOMINATING their league. I mean Ronaldo is a great player don't get me wrong, but you can all stop with the nonsense, most of the leagues he won, he won them with teams who were dominating their leagues before he even joined. Messi also played with a great squad in Barcelona, but he took a very mediocre one to the champions league semi's and won La Liga with them. And I'm saying mediocre because look at Barcelona once Messi left, they couldn't make it past group stage in champions league the first year he left, and the second year they even brought great players such as Lewa, and yet, they couldn't make it past the UCL group stage. Madrid won La Liga once Ronaldo left. The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is that Ronaldo is a great SCORER but he needs a team around him to win, Messi is a great scorer as good as Ronaldo and stats say he's even a better goal scrorer, he even have more golden boots and he scored 91goals in one calendar year, but Messi is also a play maker, he would take the ball from the midfield and create for his team. Messi is the greatest ever unless you want to be bias.
so today it's 4-0, as Messi has won everything with national team.. but i would add some stats too, like: 1. Messi has more trophies (42) while Ronaldo has (34). 2. Ronaldo is called a UCL guy, because he owns all stats there, but Messi played 22 matches less (2.5 year season less) and needs 12 goals, 2 assists and 2 free kicks to pass him, which seems easy as he still plays in Europe, while Ronaldo went to Saudi for making money. 3. international goals - Ronaldo played 26 games more and has 20 goals more too, while Messi has 20 more assists, so they have same g/a, so it seems that Messi will soon pass him 4. in career Ronaldo has 22 goals more, but again he played 142 matches more, which means that messi has better goal ratio 5. it is great that Ronaldo played for 4 different teams during his career and sometimes people say this stupid argument that he had bad teammates, while Messi had best ones which is shit, cause Ronaldo has always played for the big teams, when his real career began in Manchester, Manchester was one of the best teams in the world, as they reached UCL finals for 2 times (2008, 2009) you may say that it was all about ronaldo but he even is not the best scorer for this club (van nistelroy is) you may say that he was in midfield but he never won any playmaker trophy, so no, he had rooney, gigs, scoles, ferdinand and other great players there. so after that he moved in madrid, and in madrid he had benzema ( who played for him) higuain, segio ramos, pepe, casilas, like all stars and also he added modrich, kross, casemiro and a lot stars with whom he won 3 consecutive UCLs, so now you may still think that it was because of him but still - no. without teammates he would do nothing as football is played by 11 players and ramos, modrich, bale and benzema did thair best too. and then he moved to juve, while they are maybe the worst team compared to the mentioned ones, but they have always been their league favourits, they systematically managed to play on UCL knock-out stages so middle teams can't do that. so on another hand people say that messi had best teammates such as iniesta and xavi but they haven't played since 2015 and 2017 and messi was the one who took all on his sholders and when he went to psg from barca, barca can't make it in UCL knock-out stage anymore and they can't win any trophy, while madrid is the last winner and they do great without him, so who had better teams? also i forgot to mention their motm award, messi has the most like 80-100 more which tell truth by itself. 6. messi won world cup and all possible trophies in international level, also i wanna mention that he was best player in all of it, while ronaldo has none with portugal and still people say that he won euro, while his teammate silva got the mvp, also he didn't play the final and his team still won it, while argentina would do nothing without messi, as in 3 major trophy finals he has 5 goal contributions from argentina's 7 goals. in the end, i would say that messi closed football, he won everything and the 8th ballon d'or is coming as a super ballon d'or too, which actually defines the players greatness and i bet no one will reach it! goat!
Uhuh 🤣 Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
eye test has always been Messi though, other stats can be arguable but definitely not who is more enjoyable to watch. Every eye test poll on the internet has been close to 80% Messi
@@legallyblind619 yeah i know what your saying like I also think Messi is better don’t get me wrong just think that category shouldn’t be there honestly since it’s all just preference
Messi is the more complete player, so I don’t even know why people bother to say Ronnie is better anymore. I as a Ronaldo fan knows it too. Messi at 1. Ronaldo at 2. Argument done.
@@yahyatheladxd Every Football fan is a Messi fan. If you are not then you are not a football fan. You're just fan of Ronaldo's good looks which make you gay.
Both of them are a blessing for football in general, it was a joy to watch them both growing up, but imo Messi is just built different, i have been watching football for 18 years and i haven't seen anyone come close to what Messi has done, his play style is just alien, while Ronaldo is a machine
he obviously favors Messi himself, but to say official statistics are false and "biased", while your own credibility isn't even a noticeable dot compared to their's, you can not be expected to be taken seriously in any event.
@@lmliteralllyChico so he is credible because he made a video and I didn’t? The stats weren’t false but the stats he used to create each section were obviously framed to put messi as number 1
@@modeni_adeokun I'm not talking about the credibility of the video or it's creator. I mean the official stats themselves. The reason this video feels biased is because the narrator is bragging about how much more visibly better messi is than ronaldo in performance terms. at the end of the day, if messi is number 1, then he is number 1. "framing them" is actually impossible beyond belief.
Cool story. Anyways 🤣, Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
@HK1_11 In 5 world cups Ronaldo has a 10 (points+ assists) Messi in 2022 alone has 10 (points + assists) Messi has 8 Ballon d'or (5 Ronaldo) 6 golden boot (5 Ronaldo International pott Messi 3 (Ronaldo 0) 4 iffhs (Ronaldo 0) Messi and Ronaldo assists when they were both in Spain 2009-2018 Messi goals 472 Ronaldo goals 450 Messi assists 179 Ronaldo assists 119 Messi trophies 29 Ronaldo 15 Messi ballon d'ors 5 Ronaldo Ballon doors 4 Messi won la liga poty 6 times Ronaldo has 1 La liga poty Messi won 5 golden boots Ronaldo 3 golden boots Stats in European football Messi 853 games 704 goals 338 assists Ronaldo 949 games 701 goals 223 assists Messi has the most hat tricks without penalties with 42 compared to Ronaldo 36(he really is a penalty merchant🤣) “Most header goals” “Most weak foot goals” 🤣 Ronaldo fans really scrapping for anything Messi second season with psg he scored 6 goals🤣🤣 Omg its so obvious you don't watch soccer
Messi did his whole ass career there , first goal was assisted by the Great Ronaldinho, do you know who assisted Ronaldo fist goal at sporting fc? Exactly, Messi had better teammates his whole carreer even know with Neymar and Mbappé, these statistics are pointless when one always was helped and the other was alone
@@Stephwlfrd_ Quit your BS , Cristiano Ronaldo teammates were ballers too , two of them are ballon d'or winners , Luka Madrid and Karim Benzema , those two are elite footballers and are still active. Ronaldo also played with Kaka another ballon d'or winner and Luis Figo another ballon d'or winner , that's 4 ballon d'or winners right there that Ronaldo got to play with . the only ballon d'or winner Messi played with was Ronaldinho , that's it end of the list.
@@Sam-iz3pi Benzema was Ass when ronaldo was in madrid he hit his peak 2 years ago and won the ballon d'or, modric isn't near as good as xavi or iniesta, players who played with messi and you know damn well that balln d'or doesn't define if a player is better than another cause we know damn well xavi and iniesta are better than modric talm bout me quitting my bs what about you not being damn biased
Also Messi is dominating the French League. So that's 2 leagues. I'd also argue that before last season Messi had more goals against the Top 6 and Premier league goals than Ronaldo. Shows the beat down he gave to the Premier league throughout the years.
This vid is bias. Players dribbled past stat… ronaldo plays in a more attacking position what do you want him to do run past the gk come back and run past him again… also expected goal stat, shows ronaldo scores harder goals meaning the xG is lower… Are we also not going to mention the leagues they both played in Ronaldo( Portuguese, English #1, spanish, italian, english #1) compared to messi (spanish and french). So statistically messi should have higher numbers due to easier opponents. Also the only time messi team (barca) was bad he signs for PSG with MPaypal and Neymar. Internally its not even a competition messi’s only trophy is for supermericana where the only competition it brazil and they dont even care about it vs Ronaldos Euro win vs nations such as germany, france, england, spain, belgium, netherlands. If you want a big game player you take Ronaldo
@Nothing wrong, absolutely not. messi hasnt turned up in big games for years. see the world cup final, the World Cup in 2010 and 2018. didnt score any goals in knockout stage. and then he lost 3 Copa America finals to inferior teams, and then he went on from 2013-2022 apart from 2015, a series of chokes in the champions league. to Liverpool, athletico, Roma, Bayern and more. the truth is, messi racks up all these stats and makes himself look better to shitty Spanish teams and shitty South American League. you can never say Ronaldo underperformed. in my opinion, messi=ronaldo but this guy who made the video is a clear messi fan as u can see how he put messi Clips and Ronaldo mistakes in the video and lacked any context
debunking some statements made someone said “ronaldo is an ST tbf” ronaldo transitioned to ST in 2019 for Juventus, but he played the left wing and messi played right wing for majority or their prime. also messi had great teams YES, but barca had bad transition phases between eras aswell, that still worked because of the MESSI reliance while real madrid made sure their team was the best it could be, the reason why messi has a lot of better stats is because he would have to make plays out of thin air, while ronaldo would continue plays made by the team,
If we look at Ronaldo's heat map, play like ST since 2010's, only on the paper he is in LW. Same like Messi who RWF on paper but heat map like a midfielder.
@@andriilham5625fr people forget that the position on paper doesn't matter much when the heat map shows the true position of a player,Ronaldo has played as a St for quite a while since his injury and Messi has always been playing more in the midfield area.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
Man I rmeber me and my friends were debating who was better in elementary years ago now everyone talking about who’s better this talk will forever go on mad love for both 🐐vs 🐐
@@mullibandz2483they weren’t better then them. ‘11 Barca with Pedro, Villa, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi was probably the best team ever. Messi still better though
Maybe…but Barça from 2019 to 2021 was Pathetic.. Yet Messi carried this team to win Trophies, won 2 Ballon d’Ors, became a UCL top scorer and Laliga Top scorer, broke multiple assists records etc etc
Prime for prime Cristiano Ronaldo is the most complete. Dude had everything in his bag. Speed, finishing , power , headers , left foot , right foot, long shots etc
@@Methodman2999 go look at his 91 goals in 2012. Majority of the goals were tap ins and pks. Also he did go trophyless that season. He didn’t win anything but ppl try not to speak abt that
@@TheAwesomeRA7 “majority were tap in and penalty” he scored 19 pens which is the same as Ronaldo in 2019/2020 in the same season Ronaldo also had 18 pens. Also “tap ins” what is considered a tap in? 😭such a subjective term is it goals scored from the box? Well Ronaldo has more believe it or not and I don’t hold it against him because only people with tiktok football knowledge think scoring tap ins are bad😭 also they did win the super cup and made it to the semi finals and were second still a good season also Real Madrid had a really good side that season so I don’t knock them for not winning league, but I’m talking about that entire stretch from Messi where he led Barca to beat Man U won the balon d or 4 years in a row I believe, absolutely wrecked the scoring records. The greatest prime I’ve witnessed
Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat-tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have Keep crying in every comments section though
Keep coping, Outplayed and scored against Ronaldo’s teams in the 09 CL final and ‘11 CL semi, has 11WC knockout g/a( with two in the final) while Ronaldo has 0 World Cup knockout g/a😭
The only thing Ronaldo fans have to hold on to is Ronaldo’s goals and even then Messi has a better goal per game ratio….more European golden boots and more pichichi trophies(the highest goal scorer in the Spanish first division in a season) Edit: 29:50 that’s hilarious
Messi started with the greats teaching him, Ronaldo fought his way to get there. Messi moved to a farmers league whereas Ronaldo dominated 3 separate leagues. At his age he set records at Juventus and carried a dysfunctional man u team in his first season back.
@@kuro5041 Messi managed to play at best academy as a kid and proved himself and started playing with Ronaldinho and stuff at a young age and that's supposed to be easy?😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Juventus and Manchester United were worse with Ronaldo but whatever. Messi plays in French league but also dominates in Champions League haha
@@elturcobd2723 you’re literally speaking out your ass. United prior to Ronaldo joining was bottom half of the league. He carried them on his back. Juventus also was falling apart when Ronaldo left. The club was shit and then not being on top of the league proves they need to rebuild. Messi started at Barca and moved to again. A super team in a farmers league where PSG has absolutely dominated the league for how many years now?
Sadly, you are delusional 🤣 Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
Bro the statistics part is really unfair to Ronaldo in my opinion. Like bro he started playing in Portugal with nobodies , then he had to play in Manchester as a midfielder and try to adjust in the hardest league in the world. Messi has had the best team and the best players around him since his debut, and yeah people like to drag the fact that he made 91 goals in year but always mention that he was a winger, NO he wasn’t Messi was literally a cf, getting fed by xavi and Iniesta 💀 the only person Ronaldo had that was close to them was ozil. Also The vid said messi has more impact in his teams?? Ronaldo has been top scorer in all his winning seasons while messi hasn’t been top scorer in a lot of his winning seasons. Another way of being impactful is actually showing up when ur team needs you right? U can count on one hand the amount of times messi has done that, while with Ronaldo he’s done it countless times. But other than that who you think is better to you is your opinion but you should not try to prove it with statistics. With awards we know who deserved it in 2018 and who didn’t In 2021.
i get you but the fact messi became such a key player at that young age in one of the best teams of all time says a lot and that ronaldo was a midfielder thing is kinda bullshit people act he like he played cm but was left midfielder almost like left winger but more defensive and they both had great teams
ronaldo played with some of the greatest players ever both for club and country and played with players who have either won a ballon dor or finished top 3 in voting while still in their primes for Portugal which messi never had
Lmao ronaldo fanbois and their flawed logic, ronaldo played 1 season in sporting..and every other season at tbe beginning of his career he had the best teammates..also i can argument that ronaldo had it easier to find himself in the first 11 of united considering messi had to sit on the bench cos tbe barcelona team was stacked and ronaldo was playing the first 3 seasons almost every match unlike messi ,ronaldo was getting the experience easier , when it comes to your moronic argument that he was a midfielder , he was a winger , he had different roles than Beckham whom he actually replaced, but how about messi ? He literally plays as a playmaker and plays every midfield role for more than 10 years and ronaldo waits in the penalty box lol but still has better stats, when it comes to the idiotic xavi iniesta argument in 2012, they barely assisted him that year lmao , both xavi and iniesta assisted messi 77 times if I am correct and di Maria and ozil asisted ronaldo more than 50 times in literally 3 -4 years so again your argument is moronic, now another moronic argument from you is the clutch segment., messi literally wins his team more matches or poimts per match with his goals and assists than ronaldo and thats something statistics show lmao , stop being a deluded ronaldo fanboi , in 2021 messi had 6 g/a less than lewa but he literally played in a dead barcelona and lewa in bayern lol , messi also won more individual awards thag season and more important trophies messi had tbe better stats in every category except goals , more mat h mvps dribbles better rating etc etc , so pls stop using these shit arguments will you
If Messi hadn’t had more impact on his team then explain why he has more than twice the number of man of the match awards Ronaldo has? Messi has 396 and Ronaldo has 176. Make it make sense for me.
No matter what y’all wanna argue you can’t compare them, different play styles different club which makes to different team tactics, impossible to to say who is better based on that fact
@SideAFTVClips That's cool and all but I've never seen Messi score a hattrick comeback against tough opposition in the second leg of the UCL on multiple occasions. The GOAT debate at this point is just what metrics you personally believe matter more. Big Moments and being Clutch matter most for me and Cristiano is him.
People always say “you can’t compare” when their favourite isn’t in favour in a debate. Don’t act like you didn’t just watch a whole video of someone showing you the statistics and evidence to why Messi is generally better
i’d say ronaldo has played with better teams, messi was in a better team to start but ronaldo was in a better team for long afterwards, messi has always had good attacking players but hasn’t always had the best players behind him and in defence
Cristiano Ronaldo: Most goals in general Most UCL goals Most UCL goals in a single season record Most international goals Most hat- tricks Most header goals Most weak foot goals Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league) Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so) Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world) Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈 Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱 CR7🐐
I love how the stat of "goals scored whilst their team is losing" was conveniently ignored. You can prefer either but Ronaldo's clutch ability puts him as the GOAT imo.
bruh what😂😂… messi got pretty much every stat, more awards, the one thing yall try to give to ronaldo which is his scoring, he isnt even better at.. fucc outta here
@@abdimohammed5132 You mean the WC he played whilst being injured? great point. You guys can idolize someone who has literally been recorded sitting in the corner of the lockeroom at halftime like a bitch whilst Bayern are only up by 2 at that point. Sorry ass captain lmao
@@ADTYG02 but you can idolise some shameless guy who tries taking his teammates goal lol but tbh this is a forced argument since messi wins statistically and through eye test if u think ronaldo is better than ur just brain dead🤝
Bro, standing in the box and waiting for a cross will give you opportunities to score. Ronaldo is goal hungry and Messi is not. You very rarely see Messi asking midfielder to cross in the ball so he can score, most of the times it’s Messi who’s giving the assist.
I’m just happy to have watched both in their primes. Football won’t ever be the same without them 😢
Big fax never liked comparing these 2 BOTH GOATS
There will be someone to fill the role man don't worry. Every generation gets more and more athletic and powerful
When they retire it’ll be a dark day 😢
@@NAHK Messi and Ronaldo will always be the original
@@JJJ-7 well shit man, it’s probably coming soon
We need Rage to watch Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo backstory ASAP. Shit needs to be a movie how both them came up
Facts
Messi is better
Penaldos greatest achievement is being compared to messi
Rage chat and this video is so biased. They dont know shitt ab football. They r right ab messi being like curry. Cus just like curry he was camping at one team his whole career😂. And now he joined a super team
@@yunopepper76 Keyboard warrior.
@@theonlyjeppe shhh Penaldog
Back in your cage barking at me
Rage is the only nigga that can turn a 18 min vid into a 43 min reaction 😂
And the only guy to make me watch that with a smile on my face throughout the whole thing😂 i never heard of this dude before this video but these were the best 45 minutes ive had on youtube
Dontai has entered the chat…..
dj ghost would turn it to a 2 day stream 😭
Miniminter does that shit too 🤣
bro has not watched joe bartolozzi
This debate ended when Messi got 91 goals in a calendar year..
And Ronaldo 5 champions
@@Demce1 Doesnt matter. Individual is winner and thats messi
@@Demce1 so carvaghal is better than leo?
@@jojo63920 Dani alves better
It ended when Messi choked like 6 times in a row in the Champions League and 2 3 times for Argentina.
There's this quote that goes something like "If a magician made a footballer it would be Messi. If an engineer made a footballer it would be Ronaldo." Both undisputed GOATs. Both great at what they do and bring to a team, there is just no point in entertaining the "who is better" debate. They can BOTH be great!!
@Mussoux it will never end because there are 2 sides and neither will admit the other player is better
@@wolfshadow_Obama_Osama ronaldo fans have created this debate
people saying this just cant accept messi is the goat
@@AsamatBagatov135 people who think Ronaldo is better are the most ignorant people ever, you don’t have to be a Messi fan to realize he’s better, the stats say he’s better, and just watching them you can tell who’s better
Why would an engineer make a less efficient player 😂
That chat was lying like crazy, can’t believe people were saying Messi had a better team than CR7. They were both on great teams, that RM disrespect is crazy.
exactly messi is just the better player
@@captainfalconmain6576 no
@@zeke4778 he is bro. There is no way you actually think Ronaldo is the better player
@@Arrevongrisch Imo fuck wrong with u
No it's very accurate all these stats are made to make Messi look better Messi had team made around him meanwhile Ronaldo had a superteam so he had out perform them and also be compatible
Y'all ppl forget psg Messi huh? Compare both overall Ronaldo is way better Messi can't clutch by himself he needs assets only then he performs
Honestly though, Messi and Ronaldo are the undisputed goats of football. Nobody else comes close
No doubt but if I had to pick one it’s messi fasho
Fútbol, and Messi (Argentina won)
its really MJ and Bron fr
@@999eli7 can't complain, I really like Ronaldo. Doesn't help that I'm a Man U fan, but he has this loud, powerful aura around him
@@999eli7for me its ronaldo. You cant be the goat if you cant do it in more leagues.
Great reaction 😂 Don’t know if this will help you, but Kobe liked Messi 😂
Personally I think Messi is the 🐐, but as a newbie you have to understand that Messi and Ronaldo are two completely different players with different styles, strengths and body types.
Ronaldo relies to pure physicality and is a goal machine although he is fast approaching the end of his career (he’s 38 in February).
Messi is extremely gifted technically and practically has the ball glued to his foot. The reason why Messi is my 🐐 is simple. He not only scores goals but he also creates them as well due to his incredible passing ability, his playmaking, vision and technical IQ. - Drum roll Messi/ Ronaldo war 😂
There are numerous videos that you can watch of both players so you can decide for yourself.
I also recommend you check out football for Americans so you get an idea of the game.
The players you need to see are Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Beckham, Xavi, Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland, for starters 😉
Btw this video is out of date by about 3 years I think as Messi has now won the Copa America in 2021 👍
this nigga the football fanatic
Francesco Totti as well
I also forgot Ronaldinho 👍🐐❤️
No disrespect to Messi fans out there but there's no way u watch cr7 and don't think he is the goat . The guy is like unbelievable specimen .
@@dexterous0215stats don’t lie buddy. And Ik u only think that cuz his long shots n shit even tho it means absolutely nothing how the ball goes in the net. Watching Messi is far better because he does things that nobody can do, but Ronaldo does things that Plenty of other players have already done like (long shots, bicycle kicks etc) He just takes it to another level. That’s the difference between them two. Messi the goat🐐.
if you see messi play live you know that he just built different even if you don't have ball knowledge
lots of u biased messi fans here. but the truth is, to a person with high football knowledge, these doesnt matter. u cant compare these two players with two different play-style, physic, teams, positions, heights etc... u gotta be either a kid or have a low football knowledge to say one is better than the other. two greatest players with their own values.
@@bigballs7801 That's cap Messi is just better. There is no reasoning for Ronaldo being on the same level as Messi.
build different lmao , there are like 20+ who are build like him
maradona is one of them
@@bigballs7801nah, in terms of footballing ability Messi is better, look at his passing, his vision, the way he creates chances for other players, Messi literally dribbles past a whole defence on his own and scores, I never seen anyone do that. Ronaldo is a goat too, but Messi is that little bit better
@@bigballs7801 worst take ive heard in a while
No disrespect to the Ronaldo fans out there but there’s no way u watch Messi and don’t think he’s the goat the guy is unbelievable
Edit:
Well the debate is officially over Messi has won the wc and completed football, better than Ronaldo for sure🐐💯
he is literally the best player on argentina and the reason why they didnt get knocked out the wc, while bruno is carrying portugal
they both passed their prime but messi is def the better player
@@gabbiaguiterrez6388 ronaldo literally carried Portugal in the euros. He’s the reason why they won
No disrespect to Messi fans out there but there's no way you watch Ronaldo and don't think he's the goat the guy is unbelievable
@@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS no it was a team effort nani was playing really good too, plus ronaldo missed the final and they still won
Bro its so funny watching how surprised he was of messi’s scoring especially him not knowing all the terminology and stat lines😂
Messis clear without disrespecting ronaldo 🐐
Ronaldo clear without disrespecting messi 🐐
Anonymous I can respect that even as A Ronaldo fan cause you didn't say penaldo or disrespect him.
@@OCEVNMusic did you see the video?
When messi has the most goals ever, the most CL, most CL goals and assists, most international goals, then I’ll agree. Until then, he a one trick Barka pony
@@OCEVNMusicbro Fr did watch the vids Messi literally had to carry his dog ass team through 2018-21 Barcelona lmao
How tf does rage make a 19 minute video in to 43 minutes long 💀
Cuz he doesn't steal content
He actually adds value
too much string gawking
@@moleedaboi he’s good at involving the chat which is great
I'm at the age where I don't even say who's the GOAT and its more of a appreciation of watching 2 of the greatest play at the same times I personally like Ronaldo more but I still like Messi
Fax at this point with both of their careers winding down i'm just appreciating both.
FAX i prefer messi but if you someone says ronaldo is the goat i can understand why they believe it.
@@JohanDsntSleep but it's incorrect..that's the problem...the evidence was literally presented to you and you're still saying there's an argument😂😂there is no argument..Messi clears every single time
@@wolvesbane1748 no one asked ?
@@lonekie was I talking to you child?
Messi gave the world more proof that he’s the best of all time.
Real shit. The thing about Messi that people don't understand is that if he didn't have the growth problems he'd most likely of grown up to be even taller and even more of a threat inside the penalty box. The crazy part is even despite that Messi is still a better player then other more physically gifted players.
@@pittaaaabread only IF he didnt have growth problems...but he has growth problems and thats all that matters. If's dont matter. We can also say ıf ronaldo didnt have that knee injury he would be a better player too.
@@cinaroz0607 So he would have been a better passer/playmaker, has better IQ, Vision or a better freekick-taker? Not to mention Messi having a better goal/goal-assist ratio😤
@@pittaaaabread There's a trade off though. If Messi was bigger he would be better at headers but he would also definitely be worse at dribbling through defenders. Messi, Maradona, and Pele are all under 5'9 and they are in most people's top 5 all time.
@@pittaaaabread Mf you are giving excuses and that what real man do convert his problem to solution. I can assure you have a less IQ because this how world works in real life
14:48 bro tried bringing up Messi’s past teammates like Ronaldo didn’t have bale, benzema, kroos, modric, Ramos, and Marcelo💀
They both had amazing squads but now that Messi has a World Cup he’s the GOAT🐐
Nah bro I think Messi’s the goat but modric was considered one of the worst transfers at that time, he’s also a midfielder so he wouldnt be in attacking positions as much, benzema only entered his prime after Ronaldo left Real Madrid also Ramos and Marcelo are defenders so ofc Messi would have more assists
Messi had much better teammates
They also not gonna mention that Real Madrid won another Champions League with a similar team, minus Ronaldo
@@Shadow-zz6ue Barcelona won a ucl when Messi was on the team and did nothing💀
@@Riky1822 Modric was a late bloomer. After a couple of seasons at Madrid he really began to shine.
As a ronaldo fan ngl messi is more complete as a player and career, statwise, etc. But Ronaldo seems like his career really has juice more than anyone else.
Tf do you mean by juice. You just admitted messi is way better
It's because of his looks, and how he presents himself outside the pitch, witch can't suddenly make him the goat
Ronaldo bigger in bigger games
@@SoulAlmighty1660 he just sayin ronald got swag
More complete??? Ronaldo is arguably the most complete attacker oat stop lying u aint a ronaldo fan
Messi left leg is legendary. A gift form god himself.
Never saw that in any holy book
@@RDENPRODwell said
Rage will appreciate them more once he does his research these two have blessed us with the best rivalry in sports history!
Crazy how blessed we are to have seen the greatest players Top 2 of all time in the same era just with a 2 year age gap, thats some crazy luck
Man I can't even lie, this video is a bit biased towards Messi - from a Messi fan. Didn't really show any Ronaldo clips and didn't give full contexts like teams they played in, leagues they played in and positions they played in - which all favour Messi. Love them both though
Messi has still more motm while being in a "better" team
What would the teams have changed? He played in man u, which was at their prime at that time. Then he plays for real, the greatest club of all time.
Fr man showed ronaldo lowlights in a debate vid disgusting bias
@@lebronCFC how tf did it show low lights ronaldo had better teams for the majority of his career lol
ronaldo can't do it outside madrid "best teammates" literally madrid was already the best team with the most champions leagues before ronaldo arrived meanwhile barcelona only had one before Messi, barcelona is now playing europa league 2 years in a row after messi left and after penaldo left madrid still won another champions . If Messi played in madrid he would already have 10 champions and 14 ballon d'ors and thats fax
True football fans appreciate both and enjoy them while they're still playing
True football fans know that Messi is way better. Only the pretentious football fans who wanna look "sensible" says these kinds of stuff.
@@hasibalfuad9652 messi is better but ronaldo is still one of a kind, you'll miss him once he retires so appreciate them both while theyre playing
@@hasibalfuad9652 go cry somewhere else bro. I've watched both for more than a decade and know is a matter of preference but no one is clear than the other. You'll realize how special they were when they retire I promise you
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@@hasibalfuad9652 true fans dont care
Wait till Rage find out Messi might be going to Inter Miami
Deadasss that I was saying
I thought his agent denied those rumors??
@@grez367yeah about that 💀💀💀
For me it was always like this, if you want someone to go to war with, Someone you want to fight to your limits in that war, I would always go with Ronaldo. But if you want a safe and cleaner win, then it’s definitely Messi.
Messi is just better
This is the stupidest shit I’ve heard lmao
Facts that's the best way to say it. Messi safer option but Ronaldo can win you a game when you're down 3-0 2-0.
@@AstroSully yea, in the video only meSsi got highlighted when he said there are stats that they didn’t measure of Messi because it can’t be measured. But the exact same thing, if not more goes for Ronaldo, especially if you look at the mental department.
@@musictovibewithsomany1212 Facts.
Few of Ronaldo’s attributes can be replicated, none of Messi’s can’t. Closest you’ll get to Messi’s style is Bernardo Silva.
George best, maradona, Eusebio, neymar, Ronaldinho etc?
@@Mo_A7__ True with Maradona, the others use skill/flair. Messi uses his body like no other. His way of dribbling is to me the definition of it, and to beat people without the use of stopover’s etc and to only rely on faints and ball control is unmatched.
@@tegx5997 fair enough each have their own preference on who they think is better. I lean a bit more towards ronaldo but I can see the other side,I think it’s a debate and it always will be one. The fans are the most annoying part where they just can’t pick their favourite and appreciate the other.
@@Mo_A7__ 💯🤝
Passing the ball to another leg isn’t complicated, Ronaldo dribbled better, it’s just low iq and why b8arce2a exists
Whenever people want to bring NBA into the discussion, calling Messi a MJ does him a disservice. And I'm an MJ fan too.
Messi is more like Jordan x Magic put into one player. We're talking about a player that could avg 35 ppg while averaging 14 assists per game. Likewise, calling Messi a Lebron does him a disservice because you could make the case that LeBron doesn't have the scoring skills of other players, where as you can't do that with Messi. He's not only statistically the best scorer and assister, but also an extremely skillful player.
The only reason why I would hesitate on Jordan x Magic, is because Magic had some Ronaldinho type plays.
I think they say Messi is Mj for greatness and not talent
Michael Jordan is way greater than Messi could ever dream to be
@@PessiTheFraud I generally don't like to compare players across sports, but if I had to I think that is the best comparison (MJ x Magic). Reason being is that Messi in his best seasons was the assist leader and goal leader in the same seasons. Basically the assists leader and scoring leader (at a historic pace btw).
How else would you put Messi into NBA terms? Wilt?
@@PessiTheFraud Jordan isn't remotely close enough to lace Messi's shoes.
@@set-Mazimus Call me when Pessi makes an entire sport more famous than it is and actually dominates his era
as a Brazilian is so cool to see my fav american youtubers and streamers watching and commenting about football 🤞🏾🔥🇧🇷
neymars nephew?
Thanks to Speed
“The Messi guy looks like a kid just playing he so smooth”
-Speeds father
“Messi looks like the boy next door but plays like a God”
- Peter Drury (arguably The Greatest Commentator in Football History)
Debate ended at the world cup
I know I'm late, but the reason Ronaldo is considered better by some is mostly because of PR reasons. He is considered more attractive (he has more contracts with luxury brands, and does more photoshoots) is taller, more athletic (jumps higher, runs faster), was a big part of one of the most famous teams in the most popular league (Manchester United in the Premier League), etc. Also, making them out as rivals made their matches against each other (mostly El Classico in La Liga, which already was one of the biggest football rivalries; Barcelona vs Real Madrid) more marketable. They also "emerged" around the same time, early to mid 2000s and had long and prosperous careers.
@lukasimundza7741 football has nothing to do with luxury brands or photoshoots. Stop the nonesense
@@cinaroz0607 but it does your image, which can affect how people see you. Especially people that don’t watch football
@@cinaroz0607 Beckham was quite literally the most famous footballer for a decade even when he was already declining, it says a lot actually
@@jonnstewart2023beckham was never seen as the best
@@yaw_ no one said anything about best, but he was easily the most famous for pretty much a decade or more, people in america to this day go crazy for him
Instead of comparing them to each other, if you compare them to the rest of football, there is no competition. They’re truly the best. Love to both players ❤️
THE DEBATE IS OVER MESSI IS THE UNDISPUTED GOAT
Nah Ronaldo still goat 🐐 no debate
@@spring6780 stop crying bruh
@@VismayJ001 hes not tho💀 plus the final was rigged yall just wont admit it for your little baby messi plead😢
@@FR7_EDITZ and your baby Ronaldo cried walking off💀💀💀
@@FR7_EDITZ have fun watching saudi league🤓
When Ronaldo scores: “Wow…..”
When Messi scores: “How….”
Ronaldo is the greatest amongst humans.
Messi is an alien.
Ronaldo is a fucking machine
@@lokiasgardian5304 Could say the same about Halaand
@Citeh actually pique said it almost word for word in an interview 🤷♂️
Nah, Messi can't be compared to a NBA player, because he'd be a combination. Kyrie Handles, Steph Shooting, MJ scoring. He's got it all. The best of all time. People always bring up the position excuse to boost the Ronaldo case, but they forget Messi is as good, if no better, at scoring as Ronaldo while not being a striker himself.
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
@@Astro-M0 now take the stats by game , you lose have your points and I can write you a book with stats that rule in favor of messi
What people don’t understand is 1 you can’t even compare those two that much cuz both of them have completly difrent play styles. 2 like the guy on the vid said , ronaldo maked those numbers in difrent ligues where messi allways stayed in barcelona until now a couple months ago changed finally to psg. You can never say who’s really better , when they had completly difrent career’s. Messi whas the goat in his own style and ronaldo in his. But good video from that guy still ✌🏽
Messi is clearly better whether in stats or by the eye test, Outplayed and scored against Ronaldo’s teams in the 09 CL final and ‘11 CL semi, has 11WC knockout g/a( with two in the final) while Ronaldo has 0 World Cup knockout g/a😭
@@ousmanjallow7866
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
For people who knows ball knows Messi is by far the greatest player ever to touch the ball and it's not even an opinion it's a fact! 🤷🏼♂🐐
This video biased towards messi but ronaldo is way more clutch and competed in different leagues across his career, messi hasn’t turned up for a big game in years
@@Peter.Parkerbecause it is biased idiot the guy was showing Ronaldo misses and dickriding Messi constantly the truth is both of them are great but this video completely ignores Ronaldo clutch factor how he 3 peated the champions league and played in harder leagues also is outdated as Ronaldo now has the most goals in football history international football history and champions league history (that one he just failed to mention) used useless stats instead of actually telling their career story how Messi started with a super team and Ronaldo had to start from the bottom very very biased video
Don’t call it ball 🤣 no one calls it ball that’s some American shit that they call basketball
@@Peter.ParkerRonaldo is better
fact.
The Messi Ronaldo debate is the Jordan Bron debate on crack lmao I've heard stories of lives being lost over it
knowing ball is accepting Messi as the GOAT
Im surprised it’s even an argument
Knowing ball is accepting Messi has robbed 3 ballon dors but he’s still the goat 🤷🏽♂️
@@kgc8984 imagine liking ur own comment 🤡
Remember when Cr7 stopped Barcelona for 5 years, oh wait you dont know ball 😂
@@E-137 I remember Messi scoring that pen against chile in 2016 to win the copa America 🥱
Messi was 19 came into the best team in the world and then became the best player in that team and ever
No barca back then was normal
@@jojo63920 Xavi and iniesta….
Are you braindead he didn’t just get put in the starting 11
@@jojo63920 they won ucl in 2006…
@@jojo63920 xavi , iniesta, Eto’o, Ronaldinho
Americas talking about football is like watching cavemen discover fire
The list is techically
1. Messi
2. Ronaldo
And so on.
If we take this serious it should be 1. Messi
2. Ronaldo.
Ronaldo is great but hes not close to messi
I’m a Messi fan but, the video left out a lot of context that Ronaldo has over Messi, like clutchness and being the player in 3 different top 5 leagues. Also, winning the Golden Boot and Ballon D’or for 2 different teams (One of them being for Manchester United during the most competitive premier league era at 23 years old). I still give messi the edge but the video seemed a bit biased.
It seemed biased because messi is so good that it’s not supposed to look close. When you going off of preferences it seems close but after you analyze both of them Messi doesn’t even seem human.
Lol you're a Ronaldo fan, don't lie. Also video did mention him winning for 2 different teams.
@@King-rudy i mean bro not mentioning the things ronaldo has done in big games, i.e hatricks against wolfsburg, atletico, bayern etc. I think it was defo worth mentioning
@@Luka-st4uf ? I’m a Messi fan but even i know this video was super biased. The guy even slipped in 30 seconds of Ronaldo low lights in his video 😭
@@MrWumboJumbo what clutchness
Messi has more goals as a sub coming on
Messi has more goals in the last ten mins and in finals
I didn't even mention assists because we know he has more of those by default
Portugal winning against Uruguay rn😂😂😂
But Bruno at the double
Uruguay shoulda won ngl and i was goin for Portugal
@@ATMcert uruguay players are old af and darwin is a clown, portugal has better qualities if we dont include ronaldo
Why this nigga said this comment like it means something in the overall scheme of the shit 😂
yeah that 2-0 had me hype
Yeah they also had different roles in their specific teams, Cristiano was the goal scorer and messi was the playmaker. Ronaldo played very differently in the beginning of his career, Messi also had better players around him which really puts into perspective why he has so many assists. If you've seen Cristiano play in his prime you'd actually see him pass the ball all the time but his teammates would no finish so he had to take matters into his own hands. In my personal opinion I prefer Cristiano because he's a leader which is a quality that Messi lacks, and Cristiano is the more clutch player. If I need a goal in a final I'd go Cristiano 1000%
messi has more goals in finals though... theyre both very clutch players and have clutch moments so you cant say that ronaldo is more clutch. and are you really saying that 08 man united team was bad? Messi from 2017-2021 has had even shittier teammates
@@anton-3359 08 United was a legendary team, But Dont try to compare an old Scholes and Carrick to an iniesta and Xavi bro 😂. Messi was part of the best front 3 of all time while Ronaldo had a Brick Benzema and an extremely underwhelming Bale for most of his time at Madrid. Messi isnt as clutch as Cristiano, Messi literally missed 2 penalties in crucial finals and he’s been stuck in the Quarters of the UCL since 2016, In key moments Messi is just underwhelming. For Messi having better stats than Cristiano its strange how Cristiano when it comes to club and national achievements he excells. At the end of the day its a Team Sport its not an individual one
@@ItsAndy__ im not gonna start to argue about their teams because theyve both had amazing and bad teammates. but fact is that cristiano needs to be in the spotlight even when he has the best teammates😂 while messi makes his teammates better in every aspect.
ur bringing up a couple curcial penalty missed as if that matters in this😭 remember 08/09 cl final? or the 2 misses in cl semi finals from ronaldo?
@@anton-3359 Bro The fact of the matter is that Messi has played with better players in his Career, My guy played the best midfielders in Xavi and Iniesta, Played with Suarez and Neymar and now plays with Mbappe and Neymar 😭
@@ItsAndy__ ofc he played with good players but ur just listing players how does that matter in the goat convo lol just watch them both play and youll know that messi is so clear. ur acting like cristiano played with bums when he played with ozil, kaka, modric, marcelo, rooney, xabi alonso, di maria, nani, bale and benzema all in their prime😭
Messi a one club fraud
I would rather be at one club and play like a God than scoring tapins, penalties, diving and crying for pens in three different countries.
Im from Europe and im grateful for being able to watch this 2 on their prime, im so glad that Americans are giving football more attention thanks to IShowSpeed. I would never guess Rage recording a football themed video. 😁
football is far less deterministic than basketball. It is much harder to judge a player based of accolades in football when compared to basketball. With that being said , any person who has played football and watched football during messi and ronaldo's prime will tell you without a doubt that Messi is the greatest human being to touch the ball.
ifw how much you pay attention and watch everything rage that’s actually rare man shows you care. W streamer
Messi is official GOAL,greatful to watch God of football playing and winning the worldcup after so many unfortunate loss and denial by own people. Messi was the most deserving player to carry that world cup. Witnessed greatness.
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
Why they say Messi had the better team but then go and say shit like Karoo’s/Modric > Xavi/Iniesta, Ramos/Varane>Puyol/Pique, Casillas>Valdez or Ter Stegen and Casemiro>Busquets
These fools are lying through their teeth
People who say Messi always has the better team are really sad Ronaldo fans.
Ronaldo joined Man United in 2003, let's look at Man United before that, they won the English Premier League in 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-2000, 2000-01, 2002-03, so he basically joined a team who was DOMINATING their league. He won a Champions League with them in 2007-2008, lost a final to Barcelona in 2009 and left, this same Man United went to another champions league final with the same players just two years after he left.
He then joined Madrid in 2009, which is the greatest club in football history, the same Madrid who won La Liga in 2006-07 and 2007-08, so again he joined a good team, he won two Ligas with them and won 4 champions leagues, he left, two years later Madrid with the same squad made it to the Champions League semi finals and lost to Chelsea who won that title, the year after that they won the champions league. Seems like a very good team to me.
He joined Juventus in 2018, let's now look at Juventus before he joined, they won the Serie A in 2011-12, 2012-13, 2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16, 2016-17, 2017-18, so again, he joined a team who was DOMINATING their league.
I mean Ronaldo is a great player don't get me wrong, but you can all stop with the nonsense, most of the leagues he won, he won them with teams who were dominating their leagues before he even joined.
Messi also played with a great squad in Barcelona, but he took a very mediocre one to the champions league semi's and won La Liga with them. And I'm saying mediocre because look at Barcelona once Messi left, they couldn't make it past group stage in champions league the first year he left, and the second year they even brought great players such as Lewa, and yet, they couldn't make it past the UCL group stage. Madrid won La Liga once Ronaldo left.
The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is that Ronaldo is a great SCORER but he needs a team around him to win, Messi is a great scorer as good as Ronaldo and stats say he's even a better goal scrorer, he even have more golden boots and he scored 91goals in one calendar year, but Messi is also a play maker, he would take the ball from the midfield and create for his team. Messi is the greatest ever unless you want to be bias.
Lowkey Dyk playing football with amp would be fye
soccer*
@@ikilledzombie2140 ...
so today it's 4-0, as Messi has won everything with national team.. but i would add some stats too, like:
1. Messi has more trophies (42) while Ronaldo has (34).
2. Ronaldo is called a UCL guy, because he owns all stats there, but Messi played 22 matches less (2.5 year season less) and needs 12 goals, 2 assists and 2 free kicks to pass him, which seems easy as he still plays in Europe, while Ronaldo went to Saudi for making money.
3. international goals - Ronaldo played 26 games more and has 20 goals more too, while Messi has 20 more assists, so they have same g/a, so it seems that Messi will soon pass him
4. in career Ronaldo has 22 goals more, but again he played 142 matches more, which means that messi has better goal ratio
5. it is great that Ronaldo played for 4 different teams during his career and sometimes people say this stupid argument that he had bad teammates, while Messi had best ones which is shit, cause Ronaldo has always played for the big teams, when his real career began in Manchester, Manchester was one of the best teams in the world, as they reached UCL finals for 2 times (2008, 2009) you may say that it was all about ronaldo but he even is not the best scorer for this club (van nistelroy is) you may say that he was in midfield but he never won any playmaker trophy, so no, he had rooney, gigs, scoles, ferdinand and other great players there. so after that he moved in madrid, and in madrid he had benzema ( who played for him) higuain, segio ramos, pepe, casilas, like all stars and also he added modrich, kross, casemiro and a lot stars with whom he won 3 consecutive UCLs, so now you may still think that it was because of him but still - no. without teammates he would do nothing as football is played by 11 players and ramos, modrich, bale and benzema did thair best too. and then he moved to juve, while they are maybe the worst team compared to the mentioned ones, but they have always been their league favourits, they systematically managed to play on UCL knock-out stages so middle teams can't do that.
so on another hand people say that messi had best teammates such as iniesta and xavi but they haven't played since 2015 and 2017 and messi was the one who took all on his sholders and when he went to psg from barca, barca can't make it in UCL knock-out stage anymore and they can't win any trophy, while madrid is the last winner and they do great without him, so who had better teams?
also i forgot to mention their motm award, messi has the most like 80-100 more which tell truth by itself.
6. messi won world cup and all possible trophies in international level, also i wanna mention that he was best player in all of it, while ronaldo has none with portugal and still people say that he won euro, while his teammate silva got the mvp, also he didn't play the final and his team still won it, while argentina would do nothing without messi, as in 3 major trophy finals he has 5 goal contributions from argentina's 7 goals.
in the end, i would say that messi closed football, he won everything and the 8th ballon d'or is coming as a super ballon d'or too, which actually defines the players greatness and i bet no one will reach it!
goat!
All those Ronaldo fanboys coping saying shits biased. How are literal factual stats biased?
Fr bruh
Messi is the greatest football player of all time simple 🐐🔥
Spitting
Uhuh 🤣
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
Im so confused with the eye test part bro just gave Ronaldo misses then gave amazing plays for Messi
eye test has always been Messi though, other stats can be arguable but definitely not who is more enjoyable to watch. Every eye test poll on the internet has been close to 80% Messi
But there isn’t supposed to be a percentage bc eye Test is you only what you think
@@ianvazquez8301 yeah the percentage isn’t the test itself but how huge majority of people vote Messi since he wins eye test easily
@@legallyblind619 stats cant be arguable
@@legallyblind619 yeah i know what your saying like I also think Messi is better don’t get me wrong just think that category shouldn’t be there honestly since it’s all just preference
Messi is the more complete player, so I don’t even know why people bother to say Ronnie is better anymore. I as a Ronaldo fan knows it too. Messi at 1. Ronaldo at 2. Argument done.
Did yall notice how quiet the Ronaldo fans got @ 34:40? lmao
pessi fan made video
@@yahyatheladxd Every Football fan is a Messi fan. If you are not then you are not a football fan. You're just fan of Ronaldo's good looks which make you gay.
@@yahyatheladxd I’ve never seen a Ronaldo fan make a comparison video lol
@@hasibalfuad9652 😂😂😂ong
Cr7 ain't even the best Ronaldo. Messi and Pele above the rest. R9 the real Ronaldo
Couldn’t agree more!
Both of them are a blessing for football in general, it was a joy to watch them both growing up, but imo Messi is just built different, i have been watching football for 18 years and i haven't seen anyone come close to what Messi has done, his play style is just alien, while Ronaldo is a machine
The Messi bias so clear, bro made a whole stat for him☠️
But is he wrong tho. he dominate in every stat
he obviously favors Messi himself, but to say official statistics are false and "biased", while your own credibility isn't even a noticeable dot compared to their's, you can not be expected to be taken seriously in any event.
@@lmliteralllyChico so he is credible because he made a video and I didn’t? The stats weren’t false but the stats he used to create each section were obviously framed to put messi as number 1
Yeh vid seemed hella bias
@@modeni_adeokun I'm not talking about the credibility of the video or it's creator. I mean the official stats themselves. The reason this video feels biased is because the narrator is bragging about how much more visibly better messi is than ronaldo in performance terms. at the end of the day, if messi is number 1, then he is number 1. "framing them" is actually impossible beyond belief.
Now its 4-0 because Messi won the world cup.
Cool story. Anyways 🤣,
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
@HK1_11 In 5 world cups Ronaldo has a 10 (points+ assists)
Messi in 2022 alone has 10 (points + assists)
Messi has
8 Ballon d'or (5 Ronaldo)
6 golden boot (5 Ronaldo
International pott Messi 3 (Ronaldo 0)
4 iffhs (Ronaldo 0)
Messi and Ronaldo assists when they were both in Spain 2009-2018
Messi goals 472
Ronaldo goals 450
Messi assists 179
Ronaldo assists 119
Messi trophies 29
Ronaldo 15
Messi ballon d'ors 5
Ronaldo Ballon doors 4
Messi won la liga poty 6 times
Ronaldo has 1 La liga poty
Messi won 5 golden boots
Ronaldo 3 golden boots
Stats in European football
Messi
853 games
704 goals
338 assists
Ronaldo 949 games
701 goals
223 assists
Messi has the most hat tricks without penalties with 42 compared to Ronaldo 36(he really is a penalty merchant🤣)
“Most header goals”
“Most weak foot goals”
🤣 Ronaldo fans really scrapping for anything
Messi second season with psg he scored 6 goals🤣🤣
Omg its so obvious you don't watch soccer
Well, now that Messi has a World Cup, this isn't a debate anymore
Bruh Ronaldo was on Real Madrid one of the greatest teams ever ion wanna hear that teammate argument🤣 they both had great teams
Fax and Madrid is still winning to this day without him while Barca aren’t even after getting Lewa
Messi did his whole ass career there , first goal was assisted by the Great Ronaldinho, do you know who assisted Ronaldo fist goal at sporting fc? Exactly, Messi had better teammates his whole carreer even know with Neymar and Mbappé, these statistics are pointless when one always was helped and the other was alone
@@Stephwlfrd_ Quit your BS , Cristiano Ronaldo teammates were ballers too , two of them are ballon d'or winners , Luka Madrid and Karim Benzema , those two are elite footballers and are still active.
Ronaldo also played with Kaka another ballon d'or winner and Luis Figo another ballon d'or winner ,
that's 4 ballon d'or winners right there that Ronaldo got to play with .
the only ballon d'or winner Messi played with was Ronaldinho , that's it end of the list.
@@Stephwlfrd_ so Messi had help in his last years at Barca too right?
@@Sam-iz3pi Benzema was Ass when ronaldo was in madrid he hit his peak 2 years ago and won the ballon d'or, modric isn't near as good as xavi or iniesta, players who played with messi and you know damn well that balln d'or doesn't define if a player is better than another cause we know damn well xavi and iniesta are better than modric talm bout me quitting my bs what about you not being damn biased
Ronaldo Dominated 3 Leagues. 1 of them being the hardest league to play in and starting as a midfielder.
Messi played plenty of games as a midfielder and if you watch him, he plays very deep for an attacker.
@@vihansubramaniam3593 Massive casual take. Messi has neved played as a midfielder and never will.
@@44nkk Are you alright? He's played multiple times as a central attacking midfielder behind many strikers over the years.
Also Messi is dominating the French League. So that's 2 leagues.
I'd also argue that before last season Messi had more goals against the Top 6 and Premier league goals than Ronaldo. Shows the beat down he gave to the Premier league throughout the years.
@@beastkaybyt2865 Complete nonsense. Messi has always been an attacker and always will be. Being a creator ≠ being a midfielder.
These stats are way outdated, now Messi is Number 1 in every Goat criteria 4-0. Debates is no more
only rage can turn an 18 minute video into an 40 minutes 💀
This vid is bias. Players dribbled past stat… ronaldo plays in a more attacking position what do you want him to do run past the gk come back and run past him again… also expected goal stat, shows ronaldo scores harder goals meaning the xG is lower… Are we also not going to mention the leagues they both played in Ronaldo( Portuguese, English #1, spanish, italian, english #1) compared to messi (spanish and french). So statistically messi should have higher numbers due to easier opponents. Also the only time messi team (barca) was bad he signs for PSG with MPaypal and Neymar. Internally its not even a competition messi’s only trophy is for supermericana where the only competition it brazil and they dont even care about it vs Ronaldos Euro win vs nations such as germany, france, england, spain, belgium, netherlands.
If you want a big game player you take Ronaldo
@Nothing wrong, absolutely not. messi hasnt turned up in big games for years. see the world cup final, the World Cup in 2010 and 2018. didnt score any goals in knockout stage. and then he lost 3 Copa America finals to inferior teams, and then he went on from 2013-2022 apart from 2015, a series of chokes in the champions league. to Liverpool, athletico, Roma, Bayern and more. the truth is, messi racks up all these stats and makes himself look better to shitty Spanish teams and shitty South American League. you can never say Ronaldo underperformed. in my opinion, messi=ronaldo but this guy who made the video is a clear messi fan as u can see how he put messi Clips and Ronaldo mistakes in the video and lacked any context
@user-hr5mn9eq3c champions league final goals CR7 4, Messi 2. Semi Final goals CR7 13, Messi 6….
Messi is better in pretty much every way and Ronaldo fans still argue every year. 😂
Before watching I trust that rage knows ball .Messi.🐐
Did bro just call football "ball"
@@gx4012 you dont know ball
@@gx4012 i mean its a ball sport sped
@@BoboKoyo as someone from Europe, if you said ball we’d think your talking about basketball because nobody calls football ball g
@@gx4012 nah bro. Loads of the UK say ball
And now Messi have 2 Copa americas and 1 World Cup.🤣
debunking some statements made
someone said “ronaldo is an ST tbf”
ronaldo transitioned to ST in 2019 for Juventus, but he played the left wing and messi played right wing for majority or their prime.
also messi had great teams YES, but barca had bad transition phases between eras aswell, that still worked because of the MESSI reliance while real madrid made sure their team was the best it could be, the reason why messi has a lot of better stats is because he would have to make plays out of thin air, while ronaldo would continue plays made by the team,
If we look at Ronaldo's heat map, play like ST since 2010's, only on the paper he is in LW. Same like Messi who RWF on paper but heat map like a midfielder.
@@andriilham5625fr people forget that the position on paper doesn't matter much when the heat map shows the true position of a player,Ronaldo has played as a St for quite a while since his injury and Messi has always been playing more in the midfield area.
@@NoName-ze6hvRonaldo changed TO LWF Not a Striker There id a difference Between LW And LWF
@@mathewpt4478 only on paper,there's a difference in positioning in real matches from the position on the paper
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
“Look here Peter…let the new 🥷🏿 get it” “backyard buckets” weak asf 💀💀 Pele probably counted goals against his children
bro said "remember that time I scored 40 at the rec?"
Man I rmeber me and my friends were debating who was better in elementary years ago now everyone talking about who’s better this talk will forever go on mad love for both 🐐vs 🐐
14:00 nah let's be honest prime barça with Xavi and Iniesta was one of the most over powered teams in history 😂😂😂
Yet Ronaldo fans argue kroos and modric were better than them.. They both had incredible teams
@@mullibandz2483they weren’t better then them. ‘11 Barca with Pedro, Villa, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi was probably the best team ever. Messi still better though
@@killtheZOG I agree they weren't, but Ronaldo also had an incredible team. So that point is invalid
@@mullibandz2483 oh I misread your comment my bad
Maybe…but Barça from 2019 to 2021 was Pathetic..
Yet Messi carried this team to win Trophies, won 2 Ballon d’Ors, became a UCL top scorer and Laliga Top scorer, broke multiple assists records etc etc
Prime for prime Cristiano Ronaldo is the most complete. Dude had everything in his bag. Speed, finishing , power , headers , left foot , right foot, long shots etc
Idk man I’m a little late but 91 goals in a calendar year is the craziest thing things I’ve witnessed in my life
@@Methodman2999 go look at his 91 goals in 2012. Majority of the goals were tap ins and pks. Also he did go trophyless that season. He didn’t win anything but ppl try not to speak abt that
@@TheAwesomeRA7 “majority were tap in and penalty” he scored 19 pens which is the same as Ronaldo in 2019/2020 in the same season Ronaldo also had 18 pens. Also “tap ins” what is considered a tap in? 😭such a subjective term is it goals scored from the box? Well Ronaldo has more believe it or not and I don’t hold it against him because only people with tiktok football knowledge think scoring tap ins are bad😭 also they did win the super cup and made it to the semi finals and were second still a good season also Real Madrid had a really good side that season so I don’t knock them for not winning league, but I’m talking about that entire stretch from Messi where he led Barca to beat Man U won the balon d or 4 years in a row I believe, absolutely wrecked the scoring records. The greatest prime I’ve witnessed
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat-tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo) Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have Keep crying in every comments section though
u really typed out 6 long comments just to achieve absolutely nothing but waste your time keep riding ronaldo bro
do you really think rage cares about your opinion a year later on a sport he doesnt watch
Xd
These stats meant literally nothing… surprised this guy hasnt compared a goalkeeper to a striker…
The guy compared literally every major stat and gave nuanced stats aswell. Ur in denial
They mean everything, the fact that a winger and playmaker like Messi is better at scoring statistically than a striker Ronaldo says a lot
@@mynamejeff4683 Pessi dog 😂
But Ronaldo fans love mentioning he has more goals than Messi. They have no problem bringing up those stats
Keep coping, Outplayed and scored against Ronaldo’s teams in the 09 CL final and ‘11 CL semi, has 11WC knockout g/a( with two in the final) while Ronaldo has 0 World Cup knockout g/a😭
It's funny that only criteria Ronaldo won , he doesn't win it anymore lol so basically 4-0
The only thing Ronaldo fans have to hold on to is Ronaldo’s goals and even then Messi has a better goal per game ratio….more European golden boots and more pichichi trophies(the highest goal scorer in the Spanish first division in a season)
Edit: 29:50 that’s hilarious
this excuse that Messi had good teammates, yes that's true but Real Madrid also had good players WTF
Didnt have a ronaldinho iniesta xavi etc :D
Messi started with the greats teaching him, Ronaldo fought his way to get there. Messi moved to a farmers league whereas Ronaldo dominated 3 separate leagues. At his age he set records at Juventus and carried a dysfunctional man u team in his first season back.
@@kuro5041 Messi managed to play at best academy as a kid and proved himself and started playing with Ronaldinho and stuff at a young age and that's supposed to be easy?😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Juventus and Manchester United were worse with Ronaldo but whatever. Messi plays in French league but also dominates in Champions League haha
@@elturcobd2723 you’re literally speaking out your ass. United prior to Ronaldo joining was bottom half of the league. He carried them on his back. Juventus also was falling apart when Ronaldo left. The club was shit and then not being on top of the league proves they need to rebuild. Messi started at Barca and moved to again. A super team in a farmers league where PSG has absolutely dominated the league for how many years now?
@@kuro5041 bruh cris got carried by ozil and dimarria kroos modric was in the best real madrid team
Messi now up on international, domestic, stats, and individual accolades. Sadly the debate is over
Messi is the best player but Ronaldo is the greater player.
@@dariobalde4209no
Sadly, you are delusional 🤣
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
Reading all the comments, I realize there is a fan base which is more immature than the other.
Bro the statistics part is really unfair to Ronaldo in my opinion. Like bro he started playing in Portugal with nobodies , then he had to play in Manchester as a midfielder and try to adjust in the hardest league in the world. Messi has had the best team and the best players around him since his debut, and yeah people like to drag the fact that he made 91 goals in year but always mention that he was a winger, NO he wasn’t Messi was literally a cf, getting fed by xavi and Iniesta 💀 the only person Ronaldo had that was close to them was ozil. Also The vid said messi has more impact in his teams?? Ronaldo has been top scorer in all his winning seasons while messi hasn’t been top scorer in a lot of his winning seasons. Another way of being impactful is actually showing up when ur team needs you right? U can count on one hand the amount of times messi has done that, while with Ronaldo he’s done it countless times. But other than that who you think is better to you is your opinion but you should not try to prove it with statistics. With awards we know who deserved it in 2018 and who didn’t In 2021.
i get you but the fact messi became such a key player at that young age in one of the best teams of all time says a lot and that ronaldo was a midfielder thing is kinda bullshit people act he like he played cm but was left midfielder almost like left winger but more defensive and they both had great teams
ronaldo played with some of the greatest players ever both for club and country and played with players who have either won a ballon dor or finished top 3 in voting while still in their primes for Portugal which messi never had
So are you saying Ronaldo is better?
Lmao ronaldo fanbois and their flawed logic, ronaldo played 1 season in sporting..and every other season at tbe beginning of his career he had the best teammates..also i can argument that ronaldo had it easier to find himself in the first 11 of united considering messi had to sit on the bench cos tbe barcelona team was stacked and ronaldo was playing the first 3 seasons almost every match unlike messi ,ronaldo was getting the experience easier , when it comes to your moronic argument that he was a midfielder , he was a winger , he had different roles than Beckham whom he actually replaced, but how about messi ? He literally plays as a playmaker and plays every midfield role for more than 10 years and ronaldo waits in the penalty box lol but still has better stats, when it comes to the idiotic xavi iniesta argument in 2012, they barely assisted him that year lmao , both xavi and iniesta assisted messi 77 times if I am correct and di Maria and ozil asisted ronaldo more than 50 times in literally 3 -4 years so again your argument is moronic, now another moronic argument from you is the clutch segment., messi literally wins his team more matches or poimts per match with his goals and assists than ronaldo and thats something statistics show lmao , stop being a deluded ronaldo fanboi , in 2021 messi had 6 g/a less than lewa but he literally played in a dead barcelona and lewa in bayern lol , messi also won more individual awards thag season and more important trophies messi had tbe better stats in every category except goals , more mat h mvps dribbles better rating etc etc , so pls stop using these shit arguments will you
If Messi hadn’t had more impact on his team then explain why he has more than twice the number of man of the match awards Ronaldo has? Messi has 396 and Ronaldo has 176. Make it make sense for me.
No matter what y’all wanna argue you can’t compare them, different play styles different club which makes to different team tactics, impossible to to say who is better based on that fact
@SideAFTVClips That's cool and all but I've never seen Messi score a hattrick comeback against tough opposition in the second leg of the UCL on multiple occasions. The GOAT debate at this point is just what metrics you personally believe matter more. Big Moments and being Clutch matter most for me and Cristiano is him.
@@ADTYG02 so a couple clutch matches is more important than carrying 2 teams for a decade?
@@ll358 Ah yes, the great CR7 only had a few clutch matches smh. You gotta be slow as fuck to not understand my point but whatever.
People always say “you can’t compare” when their favourite isn’t in favour in a debate. Don’t act like you didn’t just watch a whole video of someone showing you the statistics and evidence to why Messi is generally better
@@kvsh5029 exactly they're coping... finding ways to believe messsi isnt better💀😂
i love how everybody is getting into soccer at the same time over here, i deadass actually found myself watching world cup games
38:25 little do he know dude was off coke most of his games😭😭
Rage the only guy that can make a video 2x longer and people will still watch 🤦🏽♂️
Chat calling the video bias when all 80% of the video is just stats. Can’t argue with stats 😭
i know idiots
The fact Messi was the best scorer and assister on the best team makes him goat 😂😂😂
ronaldo had better teams for the majority of his career lol
Messi IS football, that’s the best way I can explain it to anyone
@Citeh City pic explains it all really, most likely a newborn glory hunter wouldn’t expect you to know any better
the debate is over
i’d say ronaldo has played with better teams, messi was in a better team to start but ronaldo was in a better team for long afterwards, messi has always had good attacking players but hasn’t always had the best players behind him and in defence
Cristiano Ronaldo:
Most goals in general
Most UCL goals
Most UCL goals in a single season record
Most international goals
Most hat- tricks
Most header goals
Most weak foot goals
Achieved top scorer in the Premier League (best and hardest league)
Achieved top scorer in La Liga multiple times
Achieved top scorer in Serie A multiple times (We weren't in the MLS at 35 kiddo)
Won a ballon d'or in the Premier League (Still the last one to do so)
Real Madrid all-time top scorer (biggest and most historic club in the world)
Pessi: Stat-padded against farmers while being in a powerful team in La Liga (pretty much 90% of his career), moves to PSG and has a quite average first season, second season he gets 6 goals for the entirety of the season (while being in a super team again against farmers), then runs away to the MLS 💀💀🍔🏳🌈🏳🌈
Keep bringing up the World Cup (the team trophy) when we're comparing individuals. I mean I get it, when you're desperate like every pessi fan, it's all you have 💀 Keep crying in every comments section though 🥱
CR7🐐
@@Astro-M0 not reading that💀
The video is old...from that time messi has won a lot more rewards
Like copa america, finnalisima, world cup
For the non football fans messi is better
@@mosanf3 oh my bad I meant Lionel Messi*
Facts
When football talk about stats, Ronaldo fans will cry and said that stats biased Messi :)))
Chat funny asf😂 they saying it’s Bias while he’s just bringing up facts
lmao the chat was spamming "L Bias" when the guy was just stating the facts 😂, zero bias, literally
i agree
funny how messi won the world cup and copa america after this🤣
I love how the stat of "goals scored whilst their team is losing" was conveniently ignored. You can prefer either but Ronaldo's clutch ability puts him as the GOAT imo.
bruh what😂😂… messi got pretty much every stat, more awards, the one thing yall try to give to ronaldo which is his scoring, he isnt even better at.. fucc outta here
That’s why he failed to make it out of the group stage in 2014 if his so “clutch” lol Messi the GOAT.
@@abdimohammed5132 You mean the WC he played whilst being injured? great point. You guys can idolize someone who has literally been recorded sitting in the corner of the lockeroom at halftime like a bitch whilst Bayern are only up by 2 at that point. Sorry ass captain lmao
@@ADTYG02 but you can idolise some shameless guy who tries taking his teammates goal lol but tbh this is a forced argument since messi wins statistically and through eye test if u think ronaldo is better than ur just brain dead🤝
Bro, standing in the box and waiting for a cross will give you opportunities to score. Ronaldo is goal hungry and Messi is not. You very rarely see Messi asking midfielder to cross in the ball so he can score, most of the times it’s Messi who’s giving the assist.