I am scientist and I also bought the Serotonin imbalance story. Many colleagues of mine believe the story as well. Now that I am completely disabled by these drugs, I ask myself how I managed to believe such a nonsense. It is clearly not possible to measure Serotonin in the brain and there are no reference values. It was just a brilliant marketing idea, which ruined my life, my family's life, and many other lives. Thank you Dr Witt-Dörring for your excellent work. I wish I had known all this before.
I think most of us need to get burned a few times before we learn to be guarded about how we integrate incoming information; sorry that you've taken just about as bad a hit as anything that gets dealt out... really, I am. I've experienced some of this on a thankfully temporary basis while I deal with a related issue. Please do heal yourself up and when you do, consider doing what you can to help wake people up and take the fight to the industry, educators and regulators in whatever way you can. Maybe you are already, but either way this state of affairs needs people like you who have training, experience, education and the first hand experience to bear witness to it. This is definitely a fight worth fighting
I too, bought into the notion of being chemically imbalanced. Please don’t be so hard on yourself. Wishing, praying and lifting up positive vibes into the universe for your healing ❤️🩹!
I think most of us did at first. Big Pharma spends a lot of money indoctrinating people including smart, educated people. It was college that brainwashed me about the chemical imbalance theory and it was the addicts in NA that helped me realize that mood altering prescriptions were harmful. I had trusted my doctor and in Western medicine to a fault. Never once questioning their methods and ethicacy.
So have you informed your peers of the " indescrepancies"? Or do we just keep plodding along pretending it's in the patients/ victims head? Because after all? Reputation is key..before the lives of patients?...
I can guarantee there are hundreds thousands of scientists/ doctors suffering, who would rather suffer in silence, along with stories of millions, than their reputation be at risk.
I found the same thing - the group my man had belonged to invited one to call when there is a death and then they suggested a psychiatrist... as if it is abnormal to grieve.
@@elizabethabbott2982 Prepping you for a Medicating Normal 'therapy.' There's an entire UA-cam series on this - with Josef Witt-Doering, Robert Whitaker, etc.!
20 years ago I was prescribed Welbutrin. I took ONE dose of it and descended into the worst night of suicidal depression. It took me days to pull out of it. I never took another one.
hackstasis. water fasting. TEI. diet, exercise, randro/4andro, maybe ru486... and electrolyte protocol can help you . sorry you went thru this. i've gone thru and cured PSSD or nearly did at 22 -23.. and I cured pfs, i suffered and nearly was dead 29.5-30.4... and fixed 31.. some probs now but mostly life, relationships, and stuff.... pfs I cured faster than everyone but like I said I have other health issues now. I hope you get better don't give up friend.@@Tempo50
Given effects like this, how do they say "it can take 3 to 6 weeks for the drug to go into effect"? Is that just a way to distance the drug from any of the potential immediate reactions people might have to it? It could just mean that it takes time to stabilize on the drug, but I really have to wonder
This may sound harsh but all pharmaceuticals are deliberately designed to damage the human body (liver, kidneys, immune function, nervous system, microbiome, brain). The resulting damage increases the need for more drugs to remedy the initial drug induced injury. It's a business decision to generate sales......increase profits.
I've heard Kim tell her husband's story before. She's doing an amazing job. It needs to be shared over and over again to wake more people up. Thank you Dr. Josef for this wonderful channel and all the work you do!
@@marcellustone I replied with a link but can't see it here, maybe I'm not allowed to post links... Just search for Kim Witczak here on youtube and you'll find several interviews.
algo. could get banned also. sharing info against mainstream medicine (deathcare), isn't good for their agenda of silencing victims of pharma and iatrogenic illness.
I hope everyone is finally getting it. They have known all about these dirty secrets of their industry for the whole time. They All Know/Knew from the start. All of it. About Benzo suffering, ,damage, etc. Etc. Etc
I have witnessed the negative impacts of mental health drugs in 3 close people around me, to where I am left in shock and disbelief at the system and doctors involved. The drugs killed my mother, my other friend was obsessed by suicide and death while on multi drugs for depression and my husband was left a drooling mess while on them. I will never forget the CAT team telling me, we don’t really understand how these drugs work when they arrived to assist my husband. Due to privacy my mothers doctor wouldn’t listen to my concerns despite her declining condition and mental state. It is hard for both the person and those around them so why don’t doctors listen
Unlike Harry Stack Sullivan, those running Mental Health now - don't help with problems. Instead, they enforce neurotoxic drug use, then move on to the next patient!@@tammyhavlik1015
I started taking Alprazolam and Ambien after my husband passed away suddenly of heart disease. He had congestive heart failure and needed a valve replacement. Prior to diagnosis he was lethargic but denied being depressed and had no history of depression or any other mental illness but I found it odd that his PCP physician prescribed Wellbutrin. He never took it, however. I'm so proud of him.
The new ads touting Rexulti (if your antidepressant doesn’t relieve all your symptoms) is even more insidious! Rexulti is an antipsychotic that is meant for people in severe psychosis with delusions.
@@tenabarnes3269I knew girl with autism; she was struggling and got suicdally depressed; she was put on an antipsychotic; she has had this altered zonked out unnatural facial expression ever since; like sort of a frozen weird numbed out face;
After my mother died in September 21, I hit bad depression despite being on an SSRI. I did eventually overcome it. I dropped SSRI in January 23. Now I’m on klonopin, unrelated to MH. Tapering down as we speak. I’ll never take another drug unless I will die of sepsis. Period. I’m done. I need to feel what I need to feel. It’s human to feel.
you said it,,,to grieve is normal; when my darling dog died because of poor veterinary treatment my cat literally tore the screen out of the back door looking for him; I found her outside the door the next day.
I’ve always thought meds that affects your mood is literally like cocaine and fries your brains. It’s crazy how the mental health industry would treat this so called ADHD and even stress with drugs. And they wonder why we have so much mass shootings, suicides and moms killing their own kids because they’re having an episode.
I think that could well be the case judging from the awful reactions to meds my late pal underwent; I was there during one crisis when on a bad combo of six meds - hallucinations etcetera; the powers that be blamed it on him or on his ptsd but guess what; when a new doc... a good one... took him off everything but one at a low dose... no more such symptoms.
Manic episode induced by the ssri. The drug should have been stopped immediately, this doctor should have never been prescribing ssri to non-depressed non-ocd patients
As a mother of a teenager who was in an auto accident. She was not driving and they were on their own way to first class in the morning. An Expedition t boned the car and front passenger seat my daughter was in. She was severely injured and it took several years for her to regain physical ability. What was horrible was this happened during the time that they decided a kid should not be put on pain medicine. The doctors started taking pain meds away and putting her on 3 antidepressants, heavy duty meds to sleep. It was horrible fighting the Dr's just adding more neurolocal meds that didn't help pain but altered her thinking. Having worked in medical for 20 years, We kept fighting. Our medical field is in horrific shape and information being hidden.
God bless you Dr for showing the real truth and abuse of pharmaceutical companies for money. Seeing your videos are the only sign of a small victory for all involved with family members that are suffering by being given whatever psychotic drugs without really looking for underlying causation and real healing. You are a hero to so many who are praying for real management of pain and/or emotional disorders rather than just adding more depression meds that scramble their brains. God bless you!
how terrible for your daughter and for you her parents having to stand by helplessly seeing what she was going through. I do hope she is well now; Incredible that all this is happening now when we are at a place where so many new developments are promising... but it is a circus when it comes to psych meds; i have been personal witness; to my late b.f. a war vet had horrendous reactions to the psych meds; my own doctor was shocked to hear what he was on. For my own needs I see a homeopath and I will never take a med again unless i am going through surgery. our family doctor decades ago experimented with meds; he became manic; assaulted his wife and chopped down his front door with an axe trying to get at her; he was never like that before; three other professionals in town had wild reactions to meds. This is proof enough for me to see that except for unbearable pain it is is chancy and everything we take must be checked out.
Dr Josef, your videos are CRITALLY IMPORTANT. Informing our collective understanding of the dark forces network at work in marketing a carefully cultivated narrative that foists profits above our well being. Additionally your intentional listening is a welcome docile demonstration for how we can better support each other. Bravo to you and Kim for this high value collab... thank you for your work.
Dear Kim; horrendous for you and do so appreciate you telling people what happened and hopefully lives may be saved; I lost my partner recently and feel the major reason for his suicide was the twenty years of psych meds he had endured since retiring from Military. I myself witnessed adverse reactions in 2010 to five meds; there had been no sign of mental illness; then the doc prescribed two anti depressants together despite warnings from the pharmaceutical companies... and he had rapid cycling moods down to every four minutes all night long; hallucinations; my calls for help to his professional carers were not answered; finally the police picked him up running naked on the railway tracks; as he said he was suicidal and awaited the next train. I read Dr. Peter Breggin and have no illusions as to their safety. A girl athlete in town lost full control on just one of the meds my pal was on.
A WEALTH of information in this video. I consider myself pretty well-versed in these topics but I now have even more information to work with. Thank you Kim and Dr. Josef for this conversation!
I have a family member who became suddenly and strongly suicidal after starting on an SSRI by his GP. He said that the urge to die was almost irresistable and he had to fight it continuously. The suicidal urges continued through withdrawal and ceased after that and haven't returned.
This is real. After losing my 24 year old son two years ago, the only thing different in his life was the recent Zoloft increase by his psychiatrist. The gaslighting and pure lies I have heard from the medical and legal worlds is unacceptable. I believe just as Kim that my son died from his Zoloft yet no one will hear it. He deserved better. Thank you for this video! It is very validating to my theories.
So sorry for your loss. These companies need to be responsible what they are doing to thousands of individuals! It’s so sad. My son suffers he’s on klonipin and now they added another drug. 😢💔
@annb27 I'm stuck on Zoloft and Valium ,got cut off from Lyrica by my pain doctor that was previously prescribed by my psychiatrist initially for anxiety. I have managed to come off Trazadone ,Remeron with one full year of insomnia, and I will see my neurologist to get me back on Lyrica on low dose for my neuropathy, Zoloft and Valium would be next . Here in my country, Zoloft is called Setraline and I would never take one if I know that's Zoloft because I know how horrible the withdrawal when I tried to come off once too quickly.
Indeed your son deserved better; it is a sin for the prescribing to be so irresponsible. I have no trouble believing this was the cause having seen the horrendous reactions my late war veteran b.f. went through. As one expert put it, On The Part of the Doctors ... ignorance is no excuse; the risks of anti depressants have been known for years .
This was really amazing and educational. I am now questioning the suicide of my best friend in Munich in 2021. She also worked in advertising as a producer of BMW commercials. She was on antidepressants after recovering from cancer. I begged her to stop taking them because I had another best friend die from cancer that same year who had been on antidepressants for decades. I had stolen the book Prozac Backlash from the psych ward that I was in after a psychotic episode from my own antidepressants. These drugs are no joke. I am losing friends left and right
I used to take Zoloft among lots of other prescribed drugs over the years. On Zoloft, I became an alcoholic and later learned that for one glass of wine Zoloft enhances the effect x's 2. After years of over imbibing when I stopped Zoloft and switched to another anti-depressant, I found myself outside a liquor store but lost the desire to go in and buy my usual daily purchase. It was then and after research I realized the cause of my craving for alcohol.
I had this exact same experience on Zoloft. I had strong urges to drink alcohol even though I hadn’t used alcohol since my twenties. I was 39 at the time. I would stock up my fridge with alcohol but luckily I realised the connection between what I was doing & the SSRI & I discontinued use & subsequently stopped buying alcohol. I didn’t ever drink the alcohol I purchased & I ended up just giving it away but the point was the craving for alcohol it was so strange & out of character for me. Now when I look back on my time on the SSRI & my strange craving for alcohol, I feel so relieved that I recognised my behaviour but it also crosses my mind for the people who don’t recognise it’s the SSRI & what the outcome might have been. I think these drugs cause cravings that even us ourselves don’t understand because it’s the drug doing the thinking & not our own selves. I hope this comment makes sense but I also just wanted to share that the craving for alcohol whilst taking SSRI is very real but often not talked about. Best wishes for anyone taking these drugs or going through discontinuation. It does get better, please stay strong.
And they ALWAYS tell people that! Take more in response to bad outcomes! I think that these drugs should be rightfully counterindicated in people who are not substantially depressed.
I fear they may be too unpredictable even for the substantially depressed. I would like to see that a patient is in hospital under observation when a new med is introduced or a dosage being changed. The docs and social workers say give us a call if there is a problem; well they did not return calls from us when there was trouble. IT was finally the police who picked him up on the railroad tracks; they were very good with him.
These conversations are imparative, important. They are scared that the more we are informed the less money they will get. They're concern is only for financial gains and not losing power of the minds of the consumers
There was a point in my decades-long journey that I started telling doctors: I'm unhappy, not depressed. Being unhappy is a normal response to some of the difficult or unfair aspects of life. Took me a while to learn that medication wasn't going to be the answer.
I was at a retreat in Mexico and my friend had discontinued Zoloft prior to an Ibogaine treatment. He committed suicide by taking a dive over a cliff right before he was supposed to drive home with a car full of people. Im wondering about the role of Zoloft in this horrific suicide
@@ATeitterMy condolences to you about your friend. Did your friend just CT off Zoloft? I am on Zoloft and I want to come off however the brain zap is horrible.
@@melvyncarrot4741 hi and thank you. He was a new friend who arrived at the retreat and he told me that he was on Zoloft because he heard me discussing meds. I used to work for a psychiatrist so I am knowledgeable about titration and he thought I was working there. I told him I was a patient so he should tell the ibogaine doctor but he chose not to disclose the information. I don't know if he stopped it at all but difficult to know since he's dead, now. My advice to you is to titrate down slowly and safely. Prozac is a good transitional drug for some people- it was for me- just a 5 day supply at the end. The best thing you can do for the brain zaps is get the books "Brain Saver" and "Brain Saver Protocol by Medical Medium. There are tools to use to get off of medication safely and comfortably in those books. Getting the right supplements are really important. Most supplements are junk. I would definitely get the B-12 made by Vimergy in addition to L-glutamine and Inositol powder by Pure Encapsulations. There are so many things in the books; especially the pharmaceutical exposure shot. Medical Medium has a supplement list of the best one on his website. Get a juicer if you don't have one already. Celery juice has a lot of trace minerals and electrolytes that will really help with brain zaps, too. Cucumber juice, also.... i can go on all day.
IT"S MIND BLOWING HOW ALL THEIR DRUGS DESTROY YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER VALUED OR HOLD DEAR IN YOUR LIFE.YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON BELIEVING THIS STATEMENT..
absolutely; I feel that mistakes with meds were part of the reason my partner killed himself after years of adverse reactions; so extremely difficult to deal with. My own doctor was shocked to hear my pal was on Benzos which he does not approve of.
I wasn’t told it was antidepressant venlafaxine, my doc said it will help with my mood and chronic pain . I’m not depressed, I just wanted help from my undiagnosed chronic 24/7 , every second pains to lessen.
Depression isn't a chemical imbalance. It's a symptom of something else. Treating depression is like treating a fever when you don't know what's causing it. You can lower the fever, but the problem is still there. You can trat the depression but the problem is still there.
These psych drugs have touched my own family in upsetting and even tragic ways. I believe just about every family has been negatively impacted in some way.
I just started watching but already I feel the urge to comment (lol). ** It seems counterintuitive to prescribe something that "takes 4-6 weeks" to work well when the diagnosis is insomnia! I know that the doctor was probably attempting to avoid habit-forming medication, but prescribing an SSRI just seems SO left-field to me. **
Exactly. How about melatonin, he wasn't depressed. He just could not sleep. Same thing happened to me. I was dealing with situational anxiety. It was easy fix, I was fixing it with therapy. I listened to wrong person. I'm all messed up. Horrific.
I've been on it for over 10 years now. I've tried going off of it, but I have felt worse without it. I probably show up alongside the definition of treatment resistant depression. I have passive ideation either way, but I feel more stable than without. I am looking for something natural that I could replace it with that may not have side effects that I could cross taper, though. I know pharmaceuticals aren't good to be on for long terms, but I am kind of stuck with it because it's better than the alternative. Kim: I'm sorry for what you and your husband went through.
Look into home cultivation of psilocybin containing mushrooms via 'popcorn tek' or uncle Ben's tek. Research efficacy of psilocybin for depression treatment, research safe dosage and side effects (you'll be pleased to find little to no negative effects, but please research and understand the power of the substance) I got into growing as a 'last resort' and I have the ability to produce medicine for the rest of my life. The KNOWLEDGE in of itself is medicine, but that's from the empowerment of being able to safely medicate, as needed I wish you the best and I hope you can find good information. I don't recommend putting anything in your body that you don't fully understand, especially from internet strangers, but I hope I can help you a bit!
I was on a long list of medications including antidepressants, antipsychotics, sleeping pills and so on. I became increasingly filled with hopelessness and attempted suicide. Nobody ever once suggested that the meds contributed to it but I didn’t like the way the drugs made me feel so on my own I went on a long journey of recovery after getting myself off all meds. Still challenged with depression and anxiety today but will never ever take meds like that ever again.
Sadly, "They" want you sick. SSRIs (and I gave many a try) are horrible for me. I was practically force fed them. If you feel worse or nothing at all, most doctors up the dose. Major insomnia triggered my depression. Insomnia MUST be better addressed. In my case, it was very physical rather than emotional. Thank you for speaking about this! I am sorry for your loss
I've had crippling anxiety my entire life. In my early 20s, I was prescribed Paxil. Within days I was constantly crying, hitting my head against walls so hard blood would be pooling at my feet, and one of my good freinds nearly got arrested for "assault" while trying to keep me from running into traffic. After a month I finally decided to stop taking the Paxil because, obviously, my anxiety wasn't improving. Immediately, I started to improve. I suppose the Paxil helped me in ONE way. It made me realize things can always be MUCH worse😂
53:09 even for diabetes, the propper medical advice would first be, try a ketogenic diet. What is the same for most psychiatric conditions. See the work of Dr Chris Palmer MD. But no we dont advice treat wrong lifestyle to improve. one needs to shove pills in people. its all about profit not health care. The should rename it to care for the profit of stockholders by means of popping medications in sick people
I’d like to hear more testimony to the caregivers or family impacted by this issue. I would bet there is a lot to offer in hearing from their perspective about the witness to the fact that anti depressant care plans are developed primarily around pharmaceutical applications to the point of good health decomposition on a systematic basis.
My wife is my caregiver since I am in protracted withdrawal from venlafaxine (which is very very bad). Her life is like hell now. She must take care of a disabled husband and our little daughter. She must go to work as well (I was the only breadwinner before). All our plans are destroyed. We don't have much money since I lost my career in AI. Doctors know very well about the very addictive nature of venlafaxine, but they still give no warning. Such a poison must be forbidden.
You’re right. For me, almost 49 years old, would most likely have had my dreams of being someone’s beloved bride and becoming a mother, would have come true if it weren’t for decades of being poly-drugged. In no way am I trying to illicit sympathy, but just stating the hard facts, the truth.
I offer mine. My poor war veteran friend was fed an horrible array of meds and had awful reactions which the genius (just kidding) medical personnel attributed to ptsd. yes he had ptsd but the hallucinations and rapid cycling bi polarity were not a war injury; they were directly related to the meds and disappeared when a good doctor took him off them after some twenty years. I wish there had been a happy ending but too much harm had been caused.
I'm on zoloft 100mg right now. The first 2 months were god awful! Anxiety did get worse, panic attacks increased, i was very restless. Those are the main things i noticed. It did eventually subside but i can most definitely see how some ppl just want an end to that torture. Asking someone whos already suffering to be okay with getting much worse before you get better is asking a lot! Its even worse when you are made to believe that it's just you. Because now you're freaking out trying to figure out why your mind has turned against you.
well said. it is scandalous; I think of what my poor war vet friend went through during his active service and then came home to years of sloppy medical treatment (I think I can say this having seen warnings published by the pharmaceutical companies themselves not to combine this and that med yet his doc did so and it caused hallucinations and other awful symptoms; we lived together so I was eye witness.)
Exactly. I had anxiety. I didn't want medication. I new what I needed was therapy. My anxiety was getting better. Why would I take something that will make me worse. It's like adding fuel to the fire. It happened to me. Horrific. I'm ruined
I think it's unwise to compartmentalize consideration of the medical industrial complex. "Maim and drain" is the name of the game, and you see this at every level of organization and on every facet of human existence. It all knits together quite neatly, and amounts to something not unlike an agricultural model. A human beehive, get them to make the honey, get them to run on the wheel, poison and dumb them down to make them more fearful and therefore more compliant, dumb them down to make them more suggestible, more susceptible to hypnosis peer pressure and groupthink. Give them "democracy", give them royalty, give them nations and governments (which you can puppet financially), so you can have them fight each other and also run to the quasi-parental figure for protection. There is an opportunistic exploitation component, but also plenty of room for contrivance. War is essentially part of a broader domestication program, ultimately. To prune the tree of life you must first prune the branches of the mind, and such schemes are now increasingly direct while remaining covert and propped up by doublethink and obfuscating language games for misattribution and so on. These are manufacturing pipelines that start long before conception. By the time someone is being subjected to the barbarity of hospital birth, they're already well into it.
My son was given 100 mg of Zoloft and he jumped off our seven floor apartment. I insisted he was showing bipolar depression II but no psychiatrist heard me. Why does it have to be years for kids to be diagnosed with bipolar and first time treatment always have to be suicide induced antidepressants???
Maybe theses kids are Not bipolar but just hyper food induced sugars! Too many kids are diagnosed bipolar that’s not true All for big pharmaceutical to make millions off the injustice of these children who are harmed years later. Look at all the school shooting they were all on psychotropic medications , antidepressants, benzodiazepines. It’s very disturbing!
I’m very sorry for your loss. I was misdiagnosed w “only” depression for years and years. I think it’s hard to tell in a teen or young adult because the symptoms could be many things. How can a dr spend a few minutes w someone, and separate depression from bp, etc? I knew something else was wrong and no one would listen to me “you’re being dramatic “.
That's such BS, these doctors have no business handing out SSRIs to anyone under the age of 25! This frustrates me so much. Were you even warned that these drugs can cause suicidal ideation in young people? At the very least they need to provide intensive talk therapy in order to avoid such tragedies. I was put on Paxil at 21 and immediately became suicidal. I am so so sorry.
Can't there be a group of grass root people who can join forces to make these gaslighting mds admit that people have been drastically harmed by these drugs? Does this travesty just continue on forever
Hey, count me in!!! We put Harvey Weinstein away with the me too movement. The Sackler family just got a gazillion $$$ judgement. Let's start holding big pharma, health insurance companies and prescribers responsible!
I'm went to a psychiatrist to see if an antidepressant would help my mood. She gave me a starter pack of Prozac. By the 3rd day, I began to sink further into the worst depression I've ever experienced. I showed up at the doctors office where she told me the results take time. I then became worse and couldn't get out of bed, I couldn't lift the pillow off my head. It took an extra 3 days without the medication to begin to feel a little better. I was between jobs, and that mood was simply due to the circumstances of my life. I'm much older and wiser now. Diet, exercise, and support groups make a positive difference.
They have to change the length of the studies…8-12 weeks is NOT long enough. Pharma companies should be required to provide a guide on how to taper off safely and also make dosage sizes small enough to taper safely. Cutting tablets isn’t exactly safe and not everyone can do volumetric dosing. Doctors should be held liable for the damage they cause from gaslighting patients and not doing their own due diligence. Also, the U.S. has to ban pharma commercials online and on Tv. It makes my blood boil when UA-cam makes me watch ads for drugs on THIS channel sometimes. It’s shameful on YT and big pharma. The government must do more and stop taking kickbacks.
Also why is it not mandated that the doctors don’t report BACK to the FDA about the side effects of a drug??? SO MANY DRS DONT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY MY SIDE EFECTS! SO MANY PSYCH DRS SAY ITS FINE TO JUMP OFF PSYCH MEDS WHEN ITS NOT!!! EVEN WHEN I TELL THEM MY SYMPTOMS.
This makes me wonder if these pills caused two family members suicides you think about the illness more than the medication but now you see the medication is more dangerous especially with all the side effects we were so shocked that we didn't even give this evil medication a thought but now im not blind anymore! And im angry. 😢
I was on antidepressants in the seventy.l was a walking zombie I had to take more drugs because of the side effects of the antidepressants it was a nightmare and I am lucky to be alive.
My cousin was on antidressants for over 20 years and now has dementia. Besides the suicides, how many have functioning brains after being addicted so many years?
@GlockPeace I have the same completely flat emotions to you, anhedonia, however get extreme anxiety. I've been off sertraline 22 years and was only on it for 2 but my emotions have never been normal since. Blankness, never excited about anything etc
I finally quit! I used the cheek pouches. I feel better, but I still want one. I just need more time. Good luck. It helped me when I stopped looking at them as my 'friend'. They're not.
i am a lawyer escitalopram ruined my life. It was 18 years of devastating sife effects. Am having a life beyond bearable. i was 29 years old when inwas prescribed the drug
I just had the creepiest side effect on only 2 days of zoloft. Looked in the mirror. Eyes were black ⚫️ and wide open. It wasn't me looking at myself. Some demon or something. I then passed out. I'm sure whatever looked at me in the mirror and made me passed out is what causes some people to unalive.
This!!!!! I totally feel this!!! You are so right! These medications are a opening/ portal to the enemy... I've researched this many years ago. Every time I see something crazy in the headlines I think I wonder what the entry was that made/ caused them to do such things.
Since mental health is the development of a mental + emotional cathexis - why isn't the Mental Health Industry training people for this, instead of drugs/ECT?!
I have had a serious suicide attempt every single time starting a new antidepressant. Yet i was gaslighted to believe they were doing what they could to help. I'll never, ever take any psychiatric medication again. I've learned the lesson.
The "double-blind placebo" test as a "gold standard" is itself absurd. The prevalence of side effects serves to effectively unmask those in the active arm of any given study so as to make it plain to both physician and patient that they are not taking a placebo. This being an obvious critique, the fact that this gold standard has remained for so long attest to the problem of willful stupdity as a social norm, as likewise the utter dearth of salient conversations within these interviews and among those of us who watch them and converse in discussion sections such as this. Amazing.
I think I have to disagree with you, but I'm not sure. To help me understand what you mean, what do you suggest as a higher standard of evidence? The problem is not the double-blind placebo control model of study in general, but in the specific study designs that are used to bring drugs to market such as the choice of data collected and how those data are treated (or mistreated).
@@TimTeatro If you don't understand the discourse, I would suggest that you do the reading. There are no adults present in these discussions. Principled conversation is non-existent.
@@TimTeatro I can't believe the mindlessness of your response. The logic of the insight could not be more obvious and yet nobody can think straight at all. Except me, evidently. This is a longstanding pattern and I suspect that we as humans are nothing but hyper-violent moronic-narcissists with no redeeming qualities. best then to anticipate total genocide and be okay with that. thank you for reminding me that humans are from hell.
@@noelgillett346 Thanks, but I'm still unclear. Which discussions? What should I read? I'm a scientist, I have a PhD, so I'm not sure what more you want me to learn. (Though, I am always open to learning.) I know how medical science is abused and thereby, I know how other so-called scientists use statistics, data and publication gaming, to tell horrible lies. But what I'm suggesting is that the problem is not fundamental to the study models, it's the way the models are funded, politicized, manipulated and published where the devil enters the details. Maybe I'm not being very clear, but I hope that helps clear up my point of view---which I am happy to have confronted in further conversation. I genuinely want to understand what others think.
In 91, they knew this. Remember a guy named Kurt cobain? Well, people usually think opiates were his muse, but in toxicology, he was on Valium too. Plus, there are reports of cops going to his house and taking pills. Also, his wife was in rehab for tranquilizers. Has anyone else noticed his suicide could have been an allergic reaction?
‘Sitting outside my body ‘is EXACTLY what I experienced also and even though I have experienced astral projection since I was a child these experiences while on Zoloft we the most frightening of my life because unlike my normal experiences there was no way of making the connection with my body, therefore waking up was almost impossible and therefore absolutely horrifying. Plus I’ve never cried so much in my entire life as I had during the time on this medication and others which are similar. I would NEVER recommend it to anyone, it did way more harm than good. My belief is that no doctor should be allowed to prescribe any medication which they themselves have not used previously.
When i was on a combination of sertraline and trazadone i felt like i was just a face floating in mid-air, like my head was a balloon and that's all i was aware of. It also made me feel like i have a "cat-face" - i really don't know how to explain it. When i was on remron and naltrexone/nalaxone laughter felt completely foreign and alien, and it didnt manifest from my stomach like it typically does, and didn't feel right. it was like the sensation was coming from outside of my body, and the trees looked evil like they were going to attack me... again, it's so bizarre i don't know how to explain it. This is how people get labeled as delusional or crazy, because it sounds crazy trying to describe these bizarre and frightening adverse effects. It really is terrifying what these drugs do to your mind and brain.
Well. They ruined me. I was having situational anxiety. Its part if life. Anyways i new i had to fix it and it was fixable, I started therapy, because i new that was the way to go. I was on the right path. My husband kept insisting and insisting to take medication, it was in my bureau i never threw it away. I kept saying no no no. Therapy is way to go. He kept insisting and insisting. I don't know i felt pressured. I gave in. Took it three days, then stopped, i felt sick. Went to hospital, they only gave me more and more medication. Anyways im totally messed up. Horrific.
But s Sr I's are poison too certain people that makes them more depressed. It destroys the brain and mind makes them more depressed. What is wrong with these doctors? Dathey tell them what we have to increase it. You have to give it 2 months to work. What the f*** is wrong with this c*** When it comes to your mind and your brain do not trust doctors for shit Remember when prozac first came out?They were giving coffee cups out the doctors with a big smiley faceing sam prozac
This is the dark side of the capitalist model, when you put sales first ... be it in pharmas, medical field or any other ... there will be some harms and some "sacrificial lambs." What I see is that it doesn't seem to be a problem for most people ... until it affects them or someone they care about.
I saw your video about the side effects of newer antidepressants and I would like to provide a more nuanced view of the matter. It is true that SSRI/SNRIs generally have quite mild side effects. The most common side effects include nausea, dizziness, sleep problems, and dry mouth. In most cases, these side effects are mild and go away on their own. However, it is also true that a smaller portion of users may experience more serious side effects, such as agitation, mania, suicidal thoughts, and sexual problems. It is also important to remember that it can be difficult to discontinue SSRI/SNRI treatment, and some people may experience withdrawal symptoms such as fatigue, anxiety, and dizziness. You mention that older antidepressants (TCAs, MAOIs, Mianserin) do not generally have these problems. This is partially true. These medications can be effective for some people, but they often have more and more serious side effects than SSRIs/SNRIs. They can also be dangerous if combined with certain other medications or alcohol. I agree that it is important to be critical of the pharmaceutical industry and that you should not blindly believe everything you hear. But I think it is wrong to scare people away from using antidepressants. These medications can be very helpful for people who suffer from depression and anxiety. They can save lives and improve the quality of life for many people. Using antidepressants and benzodiazepines the right way Antidepressants and benzodiazepines are two types of medication that are often used to treat depression and anxiety. While they can be effective for many people, it is important to use them the right way to avoid side effects and dependence. Right dose: It is important to take the right dose of antidepressants and benzodiazepines. Taking too little may not make the medication work, while taking too much can cause serious side effects. A doctor can help you determine the right dose for you. Right patient: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines are not right for everyone. They should not be used by people who are pregnant or breastfeeding, or who have certain medical conditions. A doctor can determine if these medications are right for you. Right duration: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines should only be taken for as long as needed. Taking them longer than necessary can increase the risk of side effects and dependence. A doctor can help you determine how long you should take these medications. Use with other medications: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines can interact with other medications you are taking. It is important to tell your doctor about all the medications you are taking, including prescription medications, over-the-counter medications, and supplements.
I had a semi severe reaction to the COVID vaccine. Thankful I was okay in the end, but my doctors told me I had to be the one to submit the VAERS report. I tried my best, but I have no idea if the report was a decent one. Was never contacted afterward.
4:36 "he felt like he was outside of his body looking in..." 16:30 - drug company knew about strange sensation of head/body feeling disconnected When i was on a combination of sertraline, trazadone i felt like i was just a face floating in mid-air, like my head was a balloon and that's all i was aware of. It also made me feel like i have a "cat-face" - i really don't know how to explain it. When i was on remron and naltrexone/nalaxone laughter felt completely foreign and alien, and it didnt manifest from my stomach like it typically does, and didn't feel right. it was like the sensation was coming from outside of my body, and the trees looked evil like they were going to attack me... again, it's so bizarre i don't know how to explain it. This is how people get labeled as delusional or crazy, because it sounds crazy trying to describe these bizarre and frightening adverse effects. It really is terrifying what these drugs do to your mind and brain.
"- My husband died aren't I supposed to grieve? - Yes but you don't have too " Is so dystopian it hits level "1984 or Brave New World? ...why not both?!". Meanwhile, actually human(e) trauma therapists : dissociation is how you survived, but you gotta sit with your emotions.
I am scientist and I also bought the Serotonin imbalance story. Many colleagues of mine believe the story as well. Now that I am completely disabled by these drugs, I ask myself how I managed to believe such a nonsense. It is clearly not possible to measure Serotonin in the brain and there are no reference values. It was just a brilliant marketing idea, which ruined my life, my family's life, and many other lives. Thank you Dr Witt-Dörring for your excellent work. I wish I had known all this before.
I think most of us need to get burned a few times before we learn to be guarded about how we integrate incoming information; sorry that you've taken just about as bad a hit as anything that gets dealt out... really, I am. I've experienced some of this on a thankfully temporary basis while I deal with a related issue.
Please do heal yourself up and when you do, consider doing what you can to help wake people up and take the fight to the industry, educators and regulators in whatever way you can. Maybe you are already, but either way this state of affairs needs people like you who have training, experience, education and the first hand experience to bear witness to it. This is definitely a fight worth fighting
I too, bought into the notion of being chemically imbalanced.
Please don’t be so hard on yourself.
Wishing, praying and lifting up positive vibes into the universe for your healing ❤️🩹!
I think most of us did at first. Big Pharma spends a lot of money indoctrinating people including smart, educated people. It was college that brainwashed me about the chemical imbalance theory and it was the addicts in NA that helped me realize that mood altering prescriptions were harmful. I had trusted my doctor and in Western medicine to a fault. Never once questioning their methods and ethicacy.
So have you informed your peers of the " indescrepancies"? Or do we just keep plodding along pretending it's in the patients/ victims head? Because after all? Reputation is key..before the lives of patients?...
I can guarantee there are hundreds thousands of scientists/ doctors suffering, who would rather suffer in silence, along with stories of millions, than their reputation be at risk.
"But, my husband died. Aren't I supposed to grieve?". YES.
I found the same thing - the group my man had belonged to invited one to call when there is a death and then they suggested a psychiatrist... as if it is abnormal to grieve.
@@elizabethabbott2982 Prepping you for a Medicating Normal 'therapy.' There's an entire UA-cam series on this - with Josef Witt-Doering, Robert Whitaker, etc.!
"But you don't have to"
Craziest nonsense I've ever heard.
@@13donstalosjust mind blowing that someone can even think like that
Do not take the neurotoxins.
20 years ago I was prescribed Welbutrin. I took ONE dose of it and descended into the worst night of suicidal depression. It took me days to pull out of it. I never took another one.
Wow. No way drug companies dont know this will happen
Wow!! I wish that happened to me. I was on it 20 + years. I was taken off cold turkey. 18 months later, my life feels ruined.
good choice.
hackstasis. water fasting. TEI. diet, exercise, randro/4andro, maybe ru486... and electrolyte protocol can help you . sorry you went thru this. i've gone thru and cured PSSD or nearly did at 22 -23.. and I cured pfs, i suffered and nearly was dead 29.5-30.4... and fixed 31.. some probs now but mostly life, relationships, and stuff.... pfs I cured faster than everyone but like I said I have other health issues now. I hope you get better don't give up friend.@@Tempo50
Given effects like this, how do they say "it can take 3 to 6 weeks for the drug to go into effect"? Is that just a way to distance the drug from any of the potential immediate reactions people might have to it?
It could just mean that it takes time to stabilize on the drug, but I really have to wonder
The term "drug safety" is basically an oxymoron. If any drug has harmed even ONE person, they're not "safe".
This may sound harsh but all pharmaceuticals are deliberately designed to damage the human body (liver, kidneys, immune function, nervous system, microbiome, brain). The resulting damage increases the need for more drugs to remedy the initial drug induced injury. It's a business decision to generate sales......increase profits.
Neurotoxic drugs!
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Disease-like Labeling is adolescent usurpation!@@snowyowl6892
Exactly!!! ❤
I've heard Kim tell her husband's story before. She's doing an amazing job. It needs to be shared over and over again to wake more people up. Thank you Dr. Josef for this wonderful channel and all the work you do!
Where did she tell her story before? Could you give me the link/info. Thanks
@@marcellustone I replied with a link but can't see it here, maybe I'm not allowed to post links... Just search for Kim Witczak here on youtube and you'll find several interviews.
Anti-depressents cause 50% suicidal thoughts.
Commenting for the algorithm and to commend you for addressing these issues head on from the medical community. You are a rare one
"This drug is Safe & Effective" (for Pharma Profits)
Safe = Pharma won't get in trouble because of FDA capture
Effective = At reducing the population
thats a good one!
This channel should be way more popular than it is....
I agree with you. We should spread the word.
That's 😢 by design!
algo. could get banned also. sharing info against mainstream medicine (deathcare), isn't good for their agenda of silencing victims of pharma and iatrogenic illness.
We’ll get there with your help! Thanks for the support.
I hope everyone is finally getting it. They have known all about these dirty secrets of their industry for the whole time. They All Know/Knew from the start. All of it. About Benzo suffering, ,damage, etc. Etc. Etc
I have witnessed the negative impacts of mental health drugs in 3 close people around me, to where I am left in shock and disbelief at the system and doctors involved. The drugs killed my mother, my other friend was obsessed by suicide and death while on multi drugs for depression and my husband was left a drooling mess while on them. I will never forget the CAT team telling me, we don’t really understand how these drugs work when they arrived to assist my husband. Due to privacy my mothers doctor wouldn’t listen to my concerns despite her declining condition and mental state. It is hard for both the person and those around them so why don’t doctors listen
The ethical Mental Health Industry - immoral + menticide bound!
I'm so sorry for your loss. I feel it's murder.
Neurotoxic drugs are the ruin of most who take these - even if it's just to become beast-like! @@estelled389
Because no matter the source of trauma, that means they can prescribe more psych meds. It's a business plan.
Unlike Harry Stack Sullivan, those running Mental Health now - don't help with problems. Instead, they enforce neurotoxic drug use, then move on to the next patient!@@tammyhavlik1015
I started taking Alprazolam and Ambien after my husband passed away suddenly of heart disease. He had congestive heart failure and needed a valve replacement. Prior to diagnosis he was lethargic but denied being depressed and had no history of depression or any other mental illness but I found it odd that his PCP physician prescribed Wellbutrin. He never took it, however. I'm so proud of him.
Very sorry, my heatt payed for you.
@@mishaanton5436 Ty.❤
The doctors give all the heart patients antidepressants and tranquilizers.
@@wednesdayschild3627 😞
Did the drugs help you sleep?
Those old Zoloft ads with the unhappy little blob are so evil…
The Archangel of Light pretended to help people!
The new ads touting Rexulti (if your antidepressant doesn’t relieve all your symptoms) is even more insidious! Rexulti is an antipsychotic that is meant for people in severe psychosis with delusions.
Intending Triage modeled custodial debasement!@@tenabarnes3269
@@tenabarnes3269I knew girl with autism; she was struggling and got suicdally depressed; she was put on an antipsychotic; she has had this altered zonked out unnatural facial expression ever since; like sort of a frozen weird numbed out face;
After my mother died in September 21, I hit bad depression despite being on an SSRI. I did eventually overcome it. I dropped SSRI in January 23. Now I’m on klonopin, unrelated to MH. Tapering down as we speak. I’ll never take another drug unless I will die of sepsis. Period. I’m done. I need to feel what I need to feel. It’s human to feel.
you said it,,,to grieve is normal; when my darling dog died because of poor veterinary treatment my cat literally tore the screen out of the back door looking for him; I found her outside the door the next day.
I’ve always thought meds that affects your mood is literally like cocaine and fries your brains. It’s crazy how the mental health industry would treat this so called ADHD and even stress with drugs. And they wonder why we have so much mass shootings, suicides and moms killing their own kids because they’re having an episode.
Exactly! Haven’t you noticed they never bring up the fact that most of these people that do the mass shootings are on some type of psychiatric drugs.
True, cocaine definitely does less harm than these drugs 100 percent
Treating normal grieving with drugs is insane also.. its exactly how addicts (or worse) are born, and how they operate..
I believe there is an undeniable correlation between psych meds and mass shootings. Why does nobody in the mainstream actually scrutinize this?
I think that could well be the case judging from the awful reactions to meds my late pal underwent; I was there during one crisis when on a bad combo of six meds - hallucinations etcetera; the powers that be blamed it on him or on his ptsd but guess what; when a new doc... a good one... took him off everything but one at a low dose... no more such symptoms.
My heads outside my body .. oh my!!! Very dangerous and scary . My heart breaks and sinks 😱😖
Manic episode induced by the ssri. The drug should have been stopped immediately, this doctor should have never been prescribing ssri to non-depressed non-ocd patients
There drugs are doing FAR MORE HARM than good.
2nd Degree Assault - like ECT!
Dam straight ! 🇦🇺😢
Probable Cause!@@brendansmyth5053
As a mother of a teenager who was in an auto accident. She was not driving and they were on their own way to first class in the morning. An Expedition t boned the car and front passenger seat my daughter was in. She was severely injured and it took several years for her to regain physical ability. What was horrible was this happened during the time that they decided a kid should not be put on pain medicine. The doctors started taking pain meds away and putting her on 3 antidepressants, heavy duty meds to sleep. It was horrible fighting the Dr's just adding more neurolocal meds that didn't help pain but altered her thinking. Having worked in medical for 20 years, We kept fighting.
Our medical field is in horrific shape and information being hidden.
God bless you Dr for showing the real truth and abuse of pharmaceutical companies for money. Seeing your videos are the only sign of a small victory for all involved with family members that are suffering by being given whatever psychotic drugs without really looking for underlying causation and real healing. You are a hero to so many who are praying for real management of pain and/or emotional disorders rather than just adding more depression meds that scramble their brains. God bless you!
how terrible for your daughter and for you her parents having to stand by helplessly seeing what she was going through. I do hope she is well now; Incredible that all this is happening now when we are at a place where so many new developments are promising... but it is a circus when it comes to psych meds; i have been personal witness; to my late b.f. a war vet had horrendous reactions to the psych meds; my own doctor was shocked to hear what he was on. For my own needs I see a homeopath and I will never take a med again unless i am going through surgery. our family doctor decades ago experimented with meds; he became manic; assaulted his wife and chopped down his front door with an axe trying to get at her; he was never like that before; three other professionals in town had wild reactions to meds. This is proof enough for me to see that except for unbearable pain it is is chancy and everything we take must be checked out.
Dr Josef, your videos are CRITALLY IMPORTANT. Informing our collective understanding of the dark forces network at work in marketing a carefully cultivated narrative that foists profits above our well being. Additionally your intentional listening is a welcome docile demonstration for how we can better support each other. Bravo to you and Kim for this high value collab... thank you for your work.
well put
Dear Kim; horrendous for you and do so appreciate you telling people what happened and hopefully lives may be saved; I lost my partner recently and feel the major reason for his suicide was the twenty years of psych meds he had endured since retiring from Military. I myself witnessed adverse reactions in 2010 to five meds; there had been no sign of mental illness; then the doc prescribed two anti depressants together despite warnings from the pharmaceutical companies... and he had rapid cycling moods down to every four minutes all night long; hallucinations; my calls for help to his professional carers were not answered; finally the police picked him up running naked on the railway tracks; as he said he was suicidal and awaited the next train. I read Dr. Peter Breggin and have no illusions as to their safety. A girl athlete in town lost full control on just one of the meds my pal was on.
Horrendous. I'm in same boat
A WEALTH of information in this video. I consider myself pretty well-versed in these topics but I now have even more information to work with. Thank you Kim and Dr. Josef for this conversation!
I have a family member who became suddenly and strongly suicidal after starting on an SSRI by his GP. He said that the urge to die was almost irresistable and he had to fight it continuously. The suicidal urges continued through withdrawal and ceased after that and haven't returned.
Very few have suicidal ideation from ssri's, and other anti-depressants.
@@byronfoppola8676Sadly, there is no good evidence to show that it's rare.
My veteran friend had the same reaction. My own doctor was shocked to hear he was on an SSRI.
This is real. After losing my 24 year old son two years ago, the only thing different in his life was the recent Zoloft increase by his psychiatrist. The gaslighting and pure lies I have heard from the medical and legal worlds is unacceptable. I believe just as Kim that my son died from his Zoloft yet no one will hear it. He deserved better. Thank you for this video! It is very validating to my theories.
So sorry for your loss. These companies need to be responsible what they are doing to thousands of individuals! It’s so sad. My son suffers he’s on klonipin and now they added another drug. 😢💔
@annb27 I'm stuck on Zoloft and Valium ,got cut off from Lyrica by my pain doctor that was previously prescribed by my psychiatrist initially for anxiety. I have managed to come off Trazadone ,Remeron with one full year of insomnia, and I will see my neurologist to get me back on Lyrica on low dose for my neuropathy, Zoloft and Valium would be next . Here in my country, Zoloft is called Setraline and I would never take one if I know that's Zoloft because I know how horrible the withdrawal when I tried to come off once too quickly.
Indeed your son deserved better; it is a sin for the prescribing to be so irresponsible. I have no trouble believing this was the cause having seen the horrendous reactions my late war veteran b.f. went through. As one expert put it, On The Part of the Doctors ... ignorance is no excuse; the risks of anti depressants have been known for years .
This was really amazing and educational. I am now questioning the suicide of my best friend in Munich in 2021. She also worked in advertising as a producer of BMW commercials. She was on antidepressants after recovering from cancer. I begged her to stop taking them because I had another best friend die from cancer that same year who had been on antidepressants for decades. I had stolen the book Prozac Backlash from the psych ward that I was in after a psychotic episode from my own antidepressants. These drugs are no joke. I am losing friends left and right
I used to take Zoloft among lots of other prescribed drugs over the years. On Zoloft, I became an alcoholic and later learned that for one glass of wine Zoloft enhances the effect x's 2. After years of over imbibing when I stopped Zoloft and switched to another anti-depressant, I found myself outside a liquor store but lost the desire to go in and buy my usual daily purchase. It was then and after research I realized the cause of my craving for alcohol.
I had this exact same experience on Zoloft. I had strong urges to drink alcohol even though I hadn’t used alcohol since my twenties. I was 39 at the time. I would stock up my fridge with alcohol but luckily I realised the connection between what I was doing & the SSRI & I discontinued use & subsequently stopped buying alcohol. I didn’t ever drink the alcohol I purchased & I ended up just giving it away but the point was the craving for alcohol it was so strange & out of character for me. Now when I look back on my time on the SSRI & my strange craving for alcohol, I feel so relieved that I recognised my behaviour but it also crosses my mind for the people who don’t recognise it’s the SSRI & what the outcome might have been. I think these drugs cause cravings that even us ourselves don’t understand because it’s the drug doing the thinking & not our own selves. I hope this comment makes sense but I also just wanted to share that the craving for alcohol whilst taking SSRI is very real but often not talked about. Best wishes for anyone taking these drugs or going through discontinuation. It does get better, please stay strong.
this is a revelation
And they ALWAYS tell people that! Take more in response to bad outcomes! I think that these drugs should be rightfully counterindicated in people who are not substantially depressed.
I fear they may be too unpredictable even for the substantially depressed. I would like to see that a patient is in hospital under observation when a new med is introduced or a dosage being changed. The docs and social workers say give us a call if there is a problem; well they did not return calls from us when there was trouble. IT was finally the police who picked him up on the railroad tracks; they were very good with him.
Yes they give SSRI for anxiety, I really don't think they work for anxiety.
These conversations are imparative, important. They are scared that the more we are informed the less money they will get. They're concern is only for financial gains and not losing power of the minds of the consumers
This is how I learned I had akathisia, stumbled apon woodys story, I knew what i had.
There was a point in my decades-long journey that I started telling doctors: I'm unhappy, not depressed. Being unhappy is a normal response to some of the difficult or unfair aspects of life. Took me a while to learn that medication wasn't going to be the answer.
I was at a retreat in Mexico and my friend had discontinued Zoloft prior to an Ibogaine treatment.
He committed suicide by taking a dive over a cliff right before he was supposed to drive home with a car full of people. Im wondering about the role of Zoloft in this horrific suicide
Oh, my God. That is so terrible. I'm so sorry!
@@annehedonia156 yes. Thank you. I will always have PTSD from this event. I like to tell people to prevent further accidents and mistakes
@@ATeitterMy condolences to you about your friend. Did your friend just CT off Zoloft? I am on Zoloft and I want to come off however the brain zap is horrible.
@@melvyncarrot4741 hi and thank you. He was a new friend who arrived at the retreat and he told me that he was on Zoloft because he heard me discussing meds. I used to work for a psychiatrist so I am knowledgeable about titration and he thought I was working there. I told him I was a patient so he should tell the ibogaine doctor but he chose not to disclose the information.
I don't know if he stopped it at all but difficult to know since he's dead, now. My advice to you is to titrate down slowly and safely. Prozac is a good transitional drug for some people- it was for me- just a 5 day supply at the end. The best thing you can do for the brain zaps is get the books "Brain Saver" and "Brain Saver Protocol by Medical Medium. There are tools to use to get off of medication safely and comfortably in those books. Getting the right supplements are really important. Most supplements are junk. I would definitely get the B-12 made by Vimergy in addition to L-glutamine and Inositol powder by Pure Encapsulations. There are so many things in the books; especially the pharmaceutical exposure shot. Medical Medium has a supplement list of the best one on his website. Get a juicer if you don't have one already. Celery juice has a lot of trace minerals and electrolytes that will really help with brain zaps, too. Cucumber juice, also.... i can go on all day.
What's ibogane treatment?
IT"S MIND BLOWING HOW ALL THEIR DRUGS DESTROY YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER VALUED OR HOLD DEAR IN YOUR LIFE.YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON BELIEVING THIS STATEMENT..
absolutely; I feel that mistakes with meds were part of the reason my partner killed himself after years of adverse reactions; so extremely difficult to deal with. My own doctor was shocked to hear my pal was on Benzos which he does not approve of.
This was one the most informative and far ranging videos I have ever seen on the topics covered. Thank you. Please continue the conversation!!!
I wasn’t told it was antidepressant venlafaxine, my doc said it will help with my mood and chronic pain . I’m not depressed, I just wanted help from my undiagnosed chronic 24/7 , every second pains to lessen.
Have you looked into Dr John Sarno Steve Ozanich, Alan Gordon?
This was an amazing interview. Thank you both.
Depression isn't a chemical imbalance. It's a symptom of something else. Treating depression is like treating a fever when you don't know what's causing it. You can lower the fever, but the problem is still there. You can trat the depression but the problem is still there.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I am so sorry listening to your story.
The pharmaceutical industry has pathologized the normal human experience
Thank you for these videos. These drugs are so awful for some people. Keep talking and highlighting their effects on unsuspecting people.
These psych drugs have touched my own family in upsetting and even tragic ways. I believe just about every family has been negatively impacted in some way.
I just started watching but already I feel the urge to comment (lol). ** It seems counterintuitive to prescribe something that "takes 4-6 weeks" to work well when the diagnosis is insomnia! I know that the doctor was probably attempting to avoid habit-forming medication, but prescribing an SSRI just seems SO left-field to me. **
I think they are looking for lifetime “customers “
Exactly. How about melatonin, he wasn't depressed. He just could not sleep. Same thing happened to me. I was dealing with situational anxiety. It was easy fix, I was fixing it with therapy. I listened to wrong person. I'm all messed up. Horrific.
Head outside the body sounds like Depersonalization I also had that when i came off Zoloft when I was 18.
I've been on it for over 10 years now. I've tried going off of it, but I have felt worse without it. I probably show up alongside the definition of treatment resistant depression. I have passive ideation either way, but I feel more stable than without. I am looking for something natural that I could replace it with that may not have side effects that I could cross taper, though. I know pharmaceuticals aren't good to be on for long terms, but I am kind of stuck with it because it's better than the alternative.
Kim: I'm sorry for what you and your husband went through.
John, keep searching, I'm sure there is a safer alternative, you just haven't found the right one YET.
Look into home cultivation of psilocybin containing mushrooms via 'popcorn tek' or uncle Ben's tek.
Research efficacy of psilocybin for depression treatment, research safe dosage and side effects (you'll be pleased to find little to no negative effects, but please research and understand the power of the substance)
I got into growing as a 'last resort' and I have the ability to produce medicine for the rest of my life. The KNOWLEDGE in of itself is medicine, but that's from the empowerment of being able to safely medicate, as needed
I wish you the best and I hope you can find good information. I don't recommend putting anything in your body that you don't fully understand, especially from internet strangers, but I hope I can help you a bit!
Going off you are feeling worse, probably due to withdrawal.
There are studies that found CBT to be very helpful for atypical depression
@@tyjhepengel5342 I wonder if lions mane powders or reishi or other mushroom powders work too..
Robin Williams
"Fully Alive means dealing with the UPS and the DOWNS!" Right on. Great chat. Sorry about your husband.
I quit Zoloft after 3 months because I hated it. I got no moral support from my parents but at least they didn’t force feed it
Safe and effective.... Where have I heard that recently? 🤔
EXACTLY!
FDA Fear and Death Administration
Yes, the same narrative over and over again...
Ummm
@@BenGoldman76 The MAID Act in Canada!
I was on a long list of medications including antidepressants, antipsychotics, sleeping pills and so on. I became increasingly filled with hopelessness and attempted suicide. Nobody ever once suggested that the meds contributed to it but I didn’t like the way the drugs made me feel so on my own I went on a long journey of recovery after getting myself off all meds. Still challenged with depression and anxiety today but will never ever take meds like that ever again.
Sadly, "They" want you sick. SSRIs (and I gave many a try) are horrible for me. I was practically force fed them. If you feel worse or nothing at all, most doctors up the dose. Major insomnia triggered my depression. Insomnia MUST be better addressed. In my case, it was very physical rather than emotional. Thank you for speaking about this! I am sorry for your loss
Can we talk about insomnia? I am polydrugged pretty bad due to insomnia and do feel all these drugs have taken my life from me and my family.
@Oceangirl1234 how's it doing? Improved at all?
I've had crippling anxiety my entire life. In my early 20s, I was prescribed Paxil. Within days I was constantly crying, hitting my head against walls so hard blood would be pooling at my feet, and one of my good freinds nearly got arrested for "assault" while trying to keep me from running into traffic. After a month I finally decided to stop taking the Paxil because, obviously, my anxiety wasn't improving. Immediately, I started to improve. I suppose the Paxil helped me in ONE way. It made me realize things can always be MUCH worse😂
53:09 even for diabetes, the propper medical advice would first be, try a ketogenic diet. What is the same for most psychiatric conditions. See the work of Dr Chris Palmer MD. But no we dont advice treat wrong lifestyle to improve. one needs to shove pills in people. its all about profit not health care. The should rename it to care for the profit of stockholders by means of popping medications in sick people
I’d like to hear more testimony to the caregivers or family impacted by this issue.
I would bet there is a lot to offer in hearing from their perspective about the witness to the fact that anti depressant care plans are developed primarily around pharmaceutical applications to the point of good health decomposition on a systematic basis.
My wife is my caregiver since I am in protracted withdrawal from venlafaxine (which is very very bad). Her life is like hell now. She must take care of a disabled husband and our little daughter. She must go to work as well (I was the only breadwinner before). All our plans are destroyed. We don't have much money since I lost my career in AI. Doctors know very well about the very addictive nature of venlafaxine, but they still give no warning. Such a poison must be forbidden.
You’re right.
For me, almost 49 years old, would most likely have had my dreams of being someone’s beloved bride and becoming a mother, would have come true if it weren’t for decades of being poly-drugged.
In no way am I trying to illicit sympathy, but just stating the hard facts, the truth.
I offer mine. My poor war veteran friend was fed an horrible array of meds and had awful reactions which the genius (just kidding) medical personnel attributed to ptsd. yes he had ptsd but the hallucinations and rapid cycling bi polarity were not a war injury; they were directly related to the meds and disappeared when a good doctor took him off them after some twenty years. I wish there had been a happy ending but too much harm had been caused.
Not dreaming and strange sleep disturbances happened for me as well on SSRIs.
I'm on zoloft 100mg right now. The first 2 months were god awful! Anxiety did get worse, panic attacks increased, i was very restless. Those are the main things i noticed. It did eventually subside but i can most definitely see how some ppl just want an end to that torture. Asking someone whos already suffering to be okay with getting much worse before you get better is asking a lot! Its even worse when you are made to believe that it's just you. Because now you're freaking out trying to figure out why your mind has turned against you.
well said. it is scandalous; I think of what my poor war vet friend went through during his active service and then came home to years of sloppy medical treatment (I think I can say this having seen warnings published by the pharmaceutical companies themselves not to combine this and that med yet his doc did so and it caused hallucinations and other awful symptoms; we lived together so I was eye witness.)
Ironic that diet is never prescribed because they say patients won't try it.
Exactly. I had anxiety. I didn't want medication. I new what I needed was therapy. My anxiety was getting better. Why would I take something that will make me worse. It's like adding fuel to the fire. It happened to me. Horrific. I'm ruined
I think it's unwise to compartmentalize consideration of the medical industrial complex. "Maim and drain" is the name of the game, and you see this at every level of organization and on every facet of human existence. It all knits together quite neatly, and amounts to something not unlike an agricultural model. A human beehive, get them to make the honey, get them to run on the wheel, poison and dumb them down to make them more fearful and therefore more compliant, dumb them down to make them more suggestible, more susceptible to hypnosis peer pressure and groupthink. Give them "democracy", give them royalty, give them nations and governments (which you can puppet financially), so you can have them fight each other and also run to the quasi-parental figure for protection. There is an opportunistic exploitation component, but also plenty of room for contrivance. War is essentially part of a broader domestication program, ultimately. To prune the tree of life you must first prune the branches of the mind, and such schemes are now increasingly direct while remaining covert and propped up by doublethink and obfuscating language games for misattribution and so on. These are manufacturing pipelines that start long before conception. By the time someone is being subjected to the barbarity of hospital birth, they're already well into it.
Sertraline gave me bipolar disorder
Zoloft, an SSRI antidepressant, as a sleeping pill? He should've tried Magnesium or a supplement like Passionflower.
Warm milk with honey and or chamomile tea
Melatonin, exercise, light therapy, meditation…. Nope, give a pill
"we are not anecdotes" needs to be licensed T-Shirt. Hint hint Dr. Whitt D.
Thank you for this discussion.
My son was given 100 mg of Zoloft and he jumped off our seven floor apartment. I insisted he was showing bipolar depression II but no psychiatrist heard me. Why does it have to be years for kids to be diagnosed with bipolar and first time treatment always have to be suicide induced antidepressants???
Maybe theses kids are Not bipolar but just hyper food induced sugars! Too many kids are diagnosed bipolar that’s not true All for big pharmaceutical to make millions off the injustice of these children who are harmed years later. Look at all the school shooting they were all on psychotropic medications , antidepressants, benzodiazepines. It’s very disturbing!
I’m very sorry for your loss.
I was misdiagnosed w “only” depression for years and years.
I think it’s hard to tell in a teen or young adult because the symptoms could be many things. How can a dr spend a few minutes w someone, and separate depression from bp, etc? I knew something else was wrong and no one would listen to me “you’re being dramatic “.
That's such BS, these doctors have no business handing out SSRIs to anyone under the age of 25! This frustrates me so much. Were you even warned that these drugs can cause suicidal ideation in young people? At the very least they need to provide intensive talk therapy in order to avoid such tragedies. I was put on Paxil at 21 and immediately became suicidal. I am so so sorry.
Can't there be a group of grass root people who can join forces to make these gaslighting mds admit that people have been drastically harmed by these drugs? Does this travesty just continue on forever
Hey, count me in!!! We put Harvey Weinstein away with the me too movement. The Sackler family just got a gazillion $$$ judgement. Let's start holding big pharma, health insurance companies and prescribers responsible!
I'm went to a psychiatrist to see if an antidepressant would help my mood. She gave me a starter pack of Prozac. By the 3rd day, I began to sink further into the worst depression I've ever experienced. I showed up at the doctors office where she told me the results take time. I then became worse and couldn't get out of bed, I couldn't lift the pillow off my head. It took an extra 3 days without the medication to begin to feel a little better. I was between jobs, and that mood was simply due to the circumstances of my life. I'm much older and wiser now. Diet, exercise, and support groups make a positive difference.
Thank you for all of your videos !
Thank you guys for this information. Keep it going you can help a lot of us that need this information. Cause I feel our drs. don't have a clue.
I DON'T AND NEVER HAVE BELIEVED A WORD THEY SAY
Illuminating interview, well done to both.
They have to change the length of the studies…8-12 weeks is NOT long enough. Pharma companies should be required to provide a guide on how to taper off safely and also make dosage sizes small enough to taper safely. Cutting tablets isn’t exactly safe and not everyone can do volumetric dosing. Doctors should be held liable for the damage they cause from gaslighting patients and not doing their own due diligence. Also, the U.S. has to ban pharma commercials online and on Tv. It makes my blood boil when UA-cam makes me watch ads for drugs on THIS channel sometimes. It’s shameful on YT and big pharma. The government must do more and stop taking kickbacks.
20, 50, 200 weeks, lives are ruined. results would be horrible by then.
Also why is it not mandated that the doctors don’t report BACK to the FDA about the side effects of a drug???
SO MANY DRS DONT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY MY SIDE EFECTS!
SO MANY PSYCH DRS SAY ITS FINE TO JUMP OFF PSYCH MEDS WHEN ITS NOT!!! EVEN WHEN I TELL THEM MY SYMPTOMS.
This makes me wonder if these pills caused two family members suicides you think about the illness more than the medication but now you see the medication is more dangerous especially with all the side effects we were so shocked that we didn't even give this evil medication a thought but now im not blind anymore! And im angry. 😢
I was on antidepressants in the seventy.l was a walking zombie I had to take more drugs because of the side effects of the antidepressants it was a nightmare and I am lucky to be alive.
Same
Journalism. Comment for the algorithm.
Depression is lack of love and abandonment trauma
It makes a person Question if this isn't related to all the mass destruction at schools and other places.
I used to the call the ' being out of head ' experience like ,' the twilight zone '.
My cousin was on antidressants for over 20 years and now has dementia. Besides the suicides, how many have functioning brains after being addicted so many years?
@GlockPeace I have the same completely flat emotions to you, anhedonia, however get extreme anxiety. I've been off sertraline 22 years and was only on it for 2 but my emotions have never been normal since. Blankness, never excited about anything etc
My doctor attempted to prescribe wellbutrin to help me quit smoking....... That was a big NO. For me still need to quit smoking though.
Not medical advice but N-Acetylcysteine (NAC) helps with addiction like smoking. It's non prescription. As always do your own research
I finally quit! I used the cheek pouches. I feel better, but I still want one. I just need more time. Good luck. It helped me when I stopped looking at them as my 'friend'. They're not.
i am a lawyer escitalopram ruined my life. It was 18 years of devastating sife effects. Am having a life beyond bearable. i was 29 years old when inwas prescribed the drug
I just had the creepiest side effect on only 2 days of zoloft. Looked in the mirror. Eyes were black ⚫️ and wide open. It wasn't me looking at myself. Some demon or something. I then passed out. I'm sure whatever looked at me in the mirror and made me passed out is what causes some people to unalive.
This!!!!! I totally feel this!!! You are so right! These medications are a opening/ portal to the enemy... I've researched this many years ago. Every time I see something crazy in the headlines I think I wonder what the entry was that made/ caused them to do such things.
I'm so glad you're in tune with yourself, cause it's so important
18:54 Great intervention by Josef. The narcissism is real.
How about the Covid "vaccine "????
Since mental health is the development of a mental + emotional cathexis - why isn't the Mental Health Industry training people for this, instead of drugs/ECT?!
My friend's 6 year old son has been prescribed an SSRI for "anxiety" wtf 😢
Criminal!
Psychiatrists who prescribe these drugs should catch into the manipulation of big pharma
I have had a serious suicide attempt every single time starting a new antidepressant. Yet i was gaslighted to believe they were doing what they could to help. I'll never, ever take any psychiatric medication again. I've learned the lesson.
The "double-blind placebo" test as a "gold standard" is itself absurd. The prevalence of side effects serves to effectively unmask those in the active arm
of any given study so as to make it plain to both physician and patient that they are not taking a placebo. This being an obvious critique, the fact that
this gold standard has remained for so long attest to the problem of willful stupdity as a social norm, as likewise the utter dearth of salient conversations
within these interviews and among those of us who watch them and converse in discussion sections such as this. Amazing.
I think I have to disagree with you, but I'm not sure. To help me understand what you mean, what do you suggest as a higher standard of evidence? The problem is not the double-blind placebo control model of study in general, but in the specific study designs that are used to bring drugs to market such as the choice of data collected and how those data are treated (or mistreated).
@@TimTeatro If you don't understand the discourse, I would suggest that you do the reading. There are no adults present in these discussions. Principled conversation is non-existent.
@@TimTeatro I can't believe the mindlessness of your response. The logic of the insight could not be more obvious and yet nobody can think straight at all. Except me, evidently. This is a longstanding pattern and I suspect that we as humans are nothing but hyper-violent moronic-narcissists with no redeeming qualities. best then to anticipate total genocide and be okay with that. thank you for reminding me that humans are from hell.
@@noelgillett346 Thanks, but I'm still unclear. Which discussions? What should I read? I'm a scientist, I have a PhD, so I'm not sure what more you want me to learn. (Though, I am always open to learning.) I know how medical science is abused and thereby, I know how other so-called scientists use statistics, data and publication gaming, to tell horrible lies. But what I'm suggesting is that the problem is not fundamental to the study models, it's the way the models are funded, politicized, manipulated and published where the devil enters the details.
Maybe I'm not being very clear, but I hope that helps clear up my point of view---which I am happy to have confronted in further conversation. I genuinely want to understand what others think.
@TimTeatro Yes, I don't trust their 'numbers' anymore.
In 91, they knew this. Remember a guy named Kurt cobain? Well, people usually think opiates were his muse, but in toxicology, he was on Valium too. Plus, there are reports of cops going to his house and taking pills. Also, his wife was in rehab for tranquilizers. Has anyone else noticed his suicide could have been an allergic reaction?
It wasn't a suicide. The crime scene proves it. Js
such a waste b/c taking Vitamin D and magnesium. and eliminating wheat and sugar can help so much.
Sugar is very important , we need sugar.
@michaelzastenchik2881 Sugar is known to being a poison ngl. Fruit sugars are more natural but no, sugar is a No, NO.
I don’t know how not to be on ssris I am so fortified I don’t feel good with them and wayy wayyy worse without them
There is no condition bad enough for me to ever start SSRIs or benzos.
‘Sitting outside my body ‘is EXACTLY what I experienced also and even though I have experienced astral projection since I was a child these experiences while on Zoloft we the most frightening of my life because unlike my normal experiences there was no way of making the connection with my body, therefore waking up was almost impossible and therefore absolutely horrifying. Plus I’ve never cried so much in my entire life as I had during the time on this medication and others which are similar. I would NEVER recommend it to anyone, it did way more harm than good. My belief is that no doctor should be allowed to prescribe any medication which they themselves have not used previously.
When i was on a combination of sertraline and trazadone i felt like i was just a face floating in mid-air, like my head was a balloon and that's all i was aware of. It also made me feel like i have a "cat-face" - i really don't know how to explain it. When i was on remron and naltrexone/nalaxone laughter felt completely foreign and alien, and it didnt manifest from my stomach like it typically does, and didn't feel right. it was like the sensation was coming from outside of my body, and the trees looked evil like they were going to attack me... again, it's so bizarre i don't know how to explain it. This is how people get labeled as delusional or crazy, because it sounds crazy trying to describe these bizarre and frightening adverse effects. It really is terrifying what these drugs do to your mind and brain.
Well. They ruined me. I was having situational anxiety. Its part if life. Anyways i new i had to fix it and it was fixable, I started therapy, because i new that was the way to go. I was on the right path. My husband kept insisting and insisting to take medication, it was in my bureau i never threw it away. I kept saying no no no. Therapy is way to go. He kept insisting and insisting. I don't know i felt pressured. I gave in. Took it three days, then stopped, i felt sick. Went to hospital, they only gave me more and more medication. Anyways im totally messed up. Horrific.
But s Sr I's are poison too certain people that makes them more depressed. It destroys the brain and mind makes them more depressed. What is wrong with these doctors? Dathey tell them what we have to increase it. You have to give it 2 months to work. What the f*** is wrong with this c*** When it comes to your mind and your brain do not trust doctors for shit Remember when prozac first came out?They were giving coffee cups out the doctors with a big smiley faceing sam prozac
This is the dark side of the capitalist model, when you put sales first ... be it in pharmas, medical field or any other ... there will be some harms and some "sacrificial lambs." What I see is that it doesn't seem to be a problem for most people ... until it affects them or someone they care about.
1:48:22. "Safe and effective, just listen to those words"
I heard ...SATIN AFFECTED
Exactly the positive sound bites.
I agree with Kim.
I saw your video about the side effects of newer antidepressants and I would like to provide a more nuanced view of the matter.
It is true that SSRI/SNRIs generally have quite mild side effects. The most common side effects include nausea, dizziness, sleep problems, and dry mouth. In most cases, these side effects are mild and go away on their own.
However, it is also true that a smaller portion of users may experience more serious side effects, such as agitation, mania, suicidal thoughts, and sexual problems. It is also important to remember that it can be difficult to discontinue SSRI/SNRI treatment, and some people may experience withdrawal symptoms such as fatigue, anxiety, and dizziness.
You mention that older antidepressants (TCAs, MAOIs, Mianserin) do not generally have these problems. This is partially true. These medications can be effective for some people, but they often have more and more serious side effects than SSRIs/SNRIs. They can also be dangerous if combined with certain other medications or alcohol.
I agree that it is important to be critical of the pharmaceutical industry and that you should not blindly believe everything you hear. But I think it is wrong to scare people away from using antidepressants. These medications can be very helpful for people who suffer from depression and anxiety. They can save lives and improve the quality of life for many people.
Using antidepressants and benzodiazepines the right way
Antidepressants and benzodiazepines are two types of medication that are often used to treat depression and anxiety. While they can be effective for many people, it is important to use them the right way to avoid side effects and dependence.
Right dose: It is important to take the right dose of antidepressants and benzodiazepines. Taking too little may not make the medication work, while taking too much can cause serious side effects. A doctor can help you determine the right dose for you.
Right patient: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines are not right for everyone. They should not be used by people who are pregnant or breastfeeding, or who have certain medical conditions. A doctor can determine if these medications are right for you.
Right duration: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines should only be taken for as long as needed. Taking them longer than necessary can increase the risk of side effects and dependence. A doctor can help you determine how long you should take these medications.
Use with other medications: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines can interact with other medications you are taking. It is important to tell your doctor about all the medications you are taking, including prescription medications, over-the-counter medications, and supplements.
Dr. Josef (witt-doerring) and andrew kim m.d. for the win!
fking meds. my condolences.
I had a semi severe reaction to the COVID vaccine. Thankful I was okay in the end, but my doctors told me I had to be the one to submit the VAERS report. I tried my best, but I have no idea if the report was a decent one. Was never contacted afterward.
4:36 "he felt like he was outside of his body looking in..."
16:30 - drug company knew about strange sensation of head/body feeling disconnected
When i was on a combination of sertraline, trazadone i felt like i was just a face floating in mid-air, like my head was a balloon and that's all i was aware of. It also made me feel like i have a "cat-face" - i really don't know how to explain it. When i was on remron and naltrexone/nalaxone laughter felt completely foreign and alien, and it didnt manifest from my stomach like it typically does, and didn't feel right. it was like the sensation was coming from outside of my body, and the trees looked evil like they were going to attack me... again, it's so bizarre i don't know how to explain it. This is how people get labeled as delusional or crazy, because it sounds crazy trying to describe these bizarre and frightening adverse effects. It really is terrifying what these drugs do to your mind and brain.
1:42:09 yes, please help with proper verbiage to get effective recognition when reporting for med watch!
"- My husband died aren't I supposed to grieve?
- Yes but you don't have too "
Is so dystopian it hits level "1984 or Brave New World? ...why not both?!".
Meanwhile, actually human(e) trauma therapists : dissociation is how you survived, but you gotta sit with your emotions.