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Week of Big BoIIs: Transformmission Havok/Menasor
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2022
- In today's video, I deal with the hardest filming session I've ever suffered through.
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The whole idea of the Stunticons being worn out vets sounds amazing, I would actually enjoy seeing Menasor and the Stunticons blaring Fortune Son whilst just hanging about or fighting some Autobots. Neat idea.
Yeah see that sounds fun, and it gives them a reason to actually be dangerous. The Combaticons are ironically the conmen of the combiners, the Constructions the average working Joes of them, and the Stunticons are currently... What? What is their thing?
@@PerspectiveEnd I love this idea so much, it is so much more unique and interesting than the actual stunticons
I like your reimagining of the team, i can clearly picture them sitting around a crate playing cards while the beach boys plays on a busted radio
Exactly. Just burnt like no one can believe doing anything to pass the time.
Here’s my pitch for the Stunticons in my personal canon.
They were built as an anti-Autobot task force, designed to confuse the masses regarding who’s on what side. The team is composed of seven members: Motormaster (formerly known as “Nemesis Prime”) Drag Strip, Knock Out, Breakdown, Offroad, Wildrider and Dead End. While they originally served under Megatron and his smattering of soldiers operating out of the Nemesis’s remains on Earth, they eventually struck out on their own and took up residence in an abandoned junkyard.
Dead End is the member of the team closest to his classic version. He’s still an eternal pessimist who complains a lot, earning him much ire from his teammates. Unlike his classic version, he forms Menasor’s right foot.
Wildrider is where things start to diverge. Instead of being just a bad driver, he was once a fairly normal (if ill tempered) Decepticon goon driven mad by the combination process. Now, he’s barely anything more than a rambling savage and Menasor’s left foot.
Offroad is the Everyman of the team. He doesn’t have the same oddities that ail his teammates; he’s just… a guy. A guy who’s starting to dislike his teammates for how over the top they are, sure, but still just a guy. He’s Menasor’s right leg.
Breakdown is a bully burying his anxieties and insecurities under a tough facade. Picture him as TFP Breakdown with his G1 version’s colors and panicky personality. He acts as Menasor’s left leg (poor guy; he’s stuck to Wildrider).
Knock Out is fairly faithful to what we saw of him in TFP. He’s a flamboyant Decepticon medic obsessed with his stunning alternate mode; basically Tracks as a Con. I’m kinda surprised Hasbro didn’t just make HIM the Wildrider substitute in Combiner Wars due to how well he’d gel with the rest of the team.
Drag Strip is the Harley Quinn to Motormaster’s Joker- a quirky femme fatale trapped within a toxic relationship. (Yes, Drag Strip is female in my personal canon) She’s the right arm of Menasor.
And last but not least, we have Motormaster, a clone of Optimus infused with Megatron’s CNA. Originally, he was “Nemesis Prime” (bearing more of a resemblance to OP), but rejected this after upgrading into a bigger, more powerful form. He’s a very hateful mech. He hates Megatron for making him in Optimus’s likeness, he hates Optimus for being the one he was “knocked off” from, he hates his teammates for being so dysfunctional, and he secretly hates himself for not being his own mech, instead being a hollow copy of OP.
So they exist as like a disinformation campaign? Meant to turn the Humans against the Autobots.
Why switch Deadend's position in the combienr?
Wait how do you have 7 members of the combiener?
Wait why is Knockout there?
@@PerspectiveEnd Yes.
I decided to do a realistically scaled version of the gestalt where two members formed the feet, two formed the legs, two formed the arms, and Motormaster formed the torso. I figured that'd reduce the parts-forming.
Knock Out is here because I felt the Stunticons needed a medic (considering how rough and tumble they are).
Does my concept at least sound interesting to you?
I love your characterization of Menasor. That's going to be what I think of in my mind now when I think about the Stunticons.
Thank you, I felt very inspired when I came up with it.
I really like the head,especially the hornsm and the red eyes,this is probably my favourite menasor toy ever
Fully agree. It's real cool looking, and it's probably my favorite of him too, but I don't have any others.
Respectable characterization for the Stunticons, having them being the old vets makes sense for their general vibe. I always kinda envisioned them as a crack team of chaos insurgents, like a less formal Combaticons with Drag Strip the speedy assassin, Breakdown the paranoid gunslinger, Wildrider as the insane berserker, Dead End as the apathetic sniper, and Motormaster as the leader and brawler, but I dig that.
I used to not be one for the G1 model, but the Magic Square kinda changed my mind. I see it like the Menasor frame is just an empty frame, sturdier and stronger than the typical combiner but needs an insane amount of power and a lot of control. So the limb bots attach on as power generators/capacitors and Motormaster fills out the chest as a central command unit, not only adding his own power but also coordinating between the individuals powering and controlling the limbs to marionette the huge, incredibly strong Menasor body, but the strain of this sort of system causes Menasor to be batshit crazy.
Or maybe the headcanon is a cope. Hey, anythings a cope if you think about it hard enough.
That's an interesting idea for how to reconcile their combined mode. You could have it be like a prototype meant to make non combiners combiners.
That grim-faced expression though... He looks angry as hell, and I like it!
The head is phenomenal, I love it, like I love the rest of the look.
I really like the idea of a jaded crew of veteran cons, really contrasts well with the hopeful enthusiastic underdog energy that most Autobots have.
I also love the idea of Megatron finding these guys while street racing on cybertron to make ends meat. And is just like, “you guys want some space-weed?”
You want some space weed? Get in my space van.
To this day i still dont get what the animators where thinking when they design Menasor animation model and said "yep, good enought"
toy accurate Menasor best combiner.
Yeah the OG toy looked better than the show model and that's very rare to say.
well, you also have to consider that Motormaster should be a giant in comparison to th car guys, technically speaking the cartoon menasor is the more logical one
@@Sbungo61 to me Motormaster should always be a bit bigger than the other stunticons. I mean bruh, he is made entirely from a cab and trailer combined together so its more logical for Motormaster to be massive.
@@rexemuwu exactly, Motormaster (especially the G1 one) was always meant to be gigantic. Seriously, a semi truck is usually 20 meters long, and Motormaster is a semi standing up
Took me a while to realize that the title wasn't a typo, and that this week was actually called the week of Big BoIIs like all of those movies trying to have a cool title: "Fant4stic" "Scre4m"
Except here it's actually cool
I wouldn't say Cool but Cleaver. Wasn't even my idea.
Missed opportunity to say that the led eyes made the figure Menasore look menacing
I'm not all about that pun life.
The idea you have for the stunticons is honestly, pure genius. And I love it
having war torn stunticon vehicles dramatically role up to a battle blaring fortunate son is something I never thought I wanted until you put that image in my head
I'm happy to have corrupted your mind.
I think the backstory you thought up for them would be better for the Combaticons and have the Stuntacons be made byScreamer.
See I don't think it works for the Combaticons because they are already too well defined. They're like a heist crew, a bunch of dissidents and malcontents who steal and con their way to a good life. And all their individual members are interesting on their own.
I like the Transformers Animated Dragstrip because it's a small change but I don't see how it can go wrong especially if dragstrip and deadend are younger, motormaster being a tierd old dad and I guess the other two can keep their normal selves.
I have no memory of the Animated versions what so ever.
This is your best video yet. I am laughing hard. Also... I hope you had fun with Megazord week.
Really? I'm happy to hear that, just didn't expect to hear it.
The combiner parts can obviously become a trailer, as well as turn into a base mode
Yeah, I figured about the trailer. I wouldn't have counted that as an accessory though, it's to part and parcel of the altmode.
you have yet suprised me again and your videos get more and more amazing
Well thank you. I expected to surprise people, though I can't say I thought people would say this is better than my normal stuff considering how compromised it is.
they fixed the balancing issues with the later releases, and after curiosity i wanted to see what the induvidual bots were like and HOLY SHIT THEY ARE SO MUCH BETTER, they genuinely looks really fucking cool and i would display them like that if possible, motormaster is my personal favourite
Yeah the booklets have the untransformed versions on them and they look sick.
that idea for the team is amazing that is my head canon now just them charging the autobot defensive line blaring 60s music is great
Yeah I felt it worked, a lot of people told me it fits the Combaticons, but they are already very well characterized. They don't need a new thing.
“It’s beautiful and awful and I love it” is the most Thew thing you have ever said
I didn't think of it at the time but you are totally right.
I swear ur the most under rated youtuber EVER keep up the good work
I don't know that I can claim to be that, but thank you so much, your words are too kind.
@@PerspectiveEnd im not even trying to be kind u deserve everything plus more u are the most underrated transformers youtuber out there u will get what u deserve one day
Aw yeah, my favorite Combiner team! Also, I liked your idea for the Stunticons.
If they are your favorite team, why does my change for them appeal to you so?
By rewriting Menasor you made him Bruticus. If i was rewriting Menasor, i would leave only Dead End out of the whole team. And that would explain him being depressed : his buddies are dead and he is trying to avenge them. Maybe, he would be involved in a Shockwave's experiment, that makes him a mad zombie looking like TFP rendition of himself.
No I did not, because that's not who the Combaticons are. The Combaticons are the just in it for the money Mercenaries, and Conmen, who are only as loyal as the money is good.
They work kind of well together just because they are consummate professionals but they don't necessarily like each other.
Ima just go ahead and say it: I love G1 Menasor. I love the cars-strapped-onto-his-limbs look. He's my favorite combiner that isn't called Abominus.
Not saying this guy doesn't look cool, but I think there's a place for both looks.
Man why is that cool. The cars are so ancillary to his design. He'd be exactly as effective without the cars.
@@PerspectiveEnd Hey I'm an anime fan. We follow the rule of cool: as long as it looks cool, it doesn't need to make a lick of sense. :P
In a few years the week of big boys is just gonna be normal sized figures
Nah, they will be micro masters.
I really hope mmc covers menasor after there defensor, it will be a challenge but even gods need a challenge sometimes
Personally I'd like their next to be a Devastator, but Menasor after would be nice.
The regular version of this is actually really good and awesome from the reviews I've seen. Also a reason this might suck is because, while this is a lot cheaper, even tho it's covered head to toe with shiny paint, it's a lot cheaper than the normal version.
Also I'm pretty sure that Transform Mission is just Generation toy. They both do idw stuff, GT have made a devastator and from the accessories that store in vehicle mode and are generic and almost identical to each other, while being really cool, to the engineering, they feel pretty identical.
I've heard that theory before.
And from what I've heard the combined mode is always bad, but the individual bot's are pretty cool.
I’m pretty sure it’s safe to say that Menasor just isn’t a combiner
You just take motormaster, make him the size of a building
Give him devil horns and strap some cars to him
The point of a combiner is that the vehicles become the limbs
They don’t just attach like armour
Therefore Menasor isn’t a combiner
Yeah pretty much. Someone suggested a kind of cool idea where Menasor actually isn't a combiner. It's just a frame meant to make non combiners into one.
A long while ago I was trying my hand at my own Transformers continuity and in it the Stunticons were pretty important. Firstly they were inadvertently the reason why Orion PAC got to meet Alpha Trion (though that’s not hugely important). More importantly was that Cliffjumper used to be a Stunticon as pre-war they were just a crew of hand to mouth punks that trust no one but each other. However during a bank job Cliffjumper gets caught and is arrested. However when the war breaks out the Autobots are so desperate for manpower they’re willing to let convicts join the army in exchange for a reduced sentence. Cliffjumper signs up planning to bail to join the Decepticons first chance he gets, but ends up accidentally actually forming a friendship with Optimus and the rest of that unit to the point that Cliffjumper actually reveals his plan to Optimus (Optimus isn’t the leader of the Autobots BTW that’s Sentinel). Eventually Cliffjumper sees the bad stuff the Decepticons are doing and officially decides to commit himself to the Autobots despite their past differences.
Okay, back to the Stunticons (kinda went on a tangent there. When the Transformers crash on Earth, the Stunticons are like the first season goon squad, like they can hurt you, but they aren’t a huge deal. Eventually Megatron gets tired of this and after a botched mission against rhe Aerialbots (both pre-combination) he hands them all over to Shockwave to be used as Guinea pigs for whatever. Shockwave uses them as test subjects for a variety of experiments resulting in most of the exaggerated mental conditions they’re famous for that beforehand were just aspects of their parts personality(ie Dragstrip was usually the first one to enter a room before, but now he has an obsessive compulsion to always be first). Shockwave also used them when testing the mental combination aspect of combiners which did not help their mental state. So while Devastator was the first functional combiner that was unleashed against the Autobots, Menasor was the first combiner artificially created by Shockwave (as opposed to the enigma of Combination).
Menasor is unleashed during the Decepticon civil war following Megatron’s death between Starscream and Shockwave, though eventually Starscream wins before everyone is reunited under Galvatron. During Galvatron’s return to claim leadership, Starscream doesn’t believe that it’s Megatron and throws Devastator, Bruticus, and Menasor at Galvatron who defeats them all, killing Motor master in the process.
Not long after the war ends, Cyclonus forms Galvatronus using the Stunticons to bring back Galvatron, but Galvatronus is stopped by the Primus reviving Motor master who takes back the Stunticons to reform Menasor, leaving Galvatronus to be defeated.
Lastly there was a whole post war spin off idea that was just all the combiners in a spaceship travelling through space having adventures that was born out of the realization that the combiners as characters never get explored because they’re just the big guy in a fight, so i thought it would be fun to lock them in combined mode and let those personalities bounce off each other (though some have been modified from their G1 origins like Computron basically being Tony Stark but with huge insecurities about having nothing to add outside of his intelligence, so one episode would be all about “if I’m not the smart one, then what do I even add to this group?”)
Oh yeah also for some reason I wrote a romance between Deadend and Dirge.
A romance between Dead End and Dirge makes COMPLETE sense and would totally be more people’s go if Cyberverse didn’t start Dead End x Astrotrain
I love the idea of the gestalts interacting with one another this is really cool
damn man, I really liked this story! Maybe I'd even like to see more of you sometime or another
The heck is a Hand to Mouth Punk?
Man why would people follow Megs if he war crimes his own men when they loose a battle?
1 What is this version of Galvatron like, and 2 how the hell did he beat 3 combiners?
I feel like Deadend and Dirge would drive eachother insane, by just feeding into the others negativity.
@@PerspectiveEnd by hand to mouth I meant like the second anyone gets any food, it’s immediately getting shared and eaten. Very tight-knit, very poor, also they do crime.
Megatron gets worse and worse as the story goes on. That bit with the Stunticons is basically the last thing he does before dying and then Shockwave experiments on them for like a year before he comes back as Galvatron.
Galvatron in my world is stupid strong since in my world Optimus Prime is also stupid strong (avatars of Gods and all that). If I ever do the whole universe seriously maybe it will get turned down.
Deadend isn’t actually nihilistic in my world, he’s just lazy and spouts all that nihilistic stuff to justify he own laziness. The two meet at a party where Dirge is being a wallflower and the other Stunticons want Deadend to make friends with someone, so they throw the two at each other. Then they immediately leave to go watch a movie in a back room. (No that’s not a euphemism)
I have to say this. The only characters apart of Menasor I. I. Like is offroad, Breakdown, and Deadend. One is because of Cyberverse, another is because a prime, and last is because of a story that was made for an exclusive combiner with three repeats and a aerialbots, and one of the repaints is toxitron.
And to be fair the Breakdown in prime is a HUGELY different dude.
@@PerspectiveEnd same goes for Deadend in Cyberverse
In the G1 cartoon I like how the stunticons are just known to wreak havoc on the roads and pose much of a threat to most of the autobots, even when motormaster played chicken with Optimus. I kind of wished that the cartoon or even if they show up in a later TF cartoon show that they're a dysfunctional team that still manages to work well and even pose a threat to even the Decepticons because of how reckless they are regardless if they were trying to help or not.
I have a few questions for you
1 how do you feel about wildrider being replaced, and is it true that he quit because he was tired of losing?
2. If you watch Cyberverse what do you think about dead end and how the rest of the stunticons not appearing?
3. If you've played TF devastation what do you think of that menasor?
1 Don't really care if he's replaced or not, also he's too crazy to care about losing, if anyone cared about that it'd be Dragstrip.
2 I did not watch Cyberverse, I hear it gets better but I could not get through the first season.
3 TF Devestation Menasor is lame, though I did like the part where he refused to loose and just hucked the Ferrotaxis across the city.
Man, IDW have some of the best designs in all of tf
Fully Agreed.
Menasor/the stunticons is both my favorite Combiner/team and yet my least favorite G1 design. Dead-End is my favorite of the stunticons because i relate to his outlook on life, Dragstrip is my second because I love Racecars
Deadend is fun, though man cheer up. Lifes sick even if it ends. We get awesome toys in the mean time.
Had me in the first half of the intro. NGL. I think the only figure with poor shoulders to rival this figure would have to be Generations Skids.
We talking about "Shiny Thing Good"? Never handled that Skidz so I don't know about him.
Menasor design is just a Walmart Halloween costume. It reminds me of a Japanese robo combiner.
Viscious Savagery coming out of this mans mouth right here!
For me, I'm torn on Menasor. On the one hand, I love him and his team. On the other, I recognise that he does have a lackluster design. Yet I still love it all the same. I think the best thing they should do when designing him is to take the G1 design and take cues from the original toy. Also, I do love the idea of them being a bunch of rowdy psychopaths with a whole host of psychological issues who are just interested in running into things and people. It's an interesting shtick
I mean that's kind of what the IDW version is, it's more based on the toy than the show.
I have this guy in regular form, non metallic. And he is just as bad! But just as good looking! As far as where transformmission come from, I believe they’re something to do with generation toys. Great video man!! 👌🏻🤜🏻👍🏻
Thank you very much. Glad this one entertained ya. And yeah people have also been saying that those two are the same as Warbotron.
I like your idea for the team but I feel the war vet story could be better suited for the combaticons. My personal head cannon is menasor is the first combiner where the decepticons used random bots as the first experiment and the first time combined and personality merged gave all the stunticons their traits like deadends depression, breakdowns paranoia, dragstrips competitiveness, wildriders psychosis and motormasters inferiority complex, the stunticons would be the team that’s off to the side doing what it is they do which I think would contrast the combaticons being a well oiled commando squad and the constructicons being the well organised construction crew.
The problem is the Combaticons are already well defined. They are a bunch of Mercenaries and Gangsters only here for the money. Just cause they are military themed doesn't mean they need the Vitenam Personality.
And I mean what do the Stunticons have otherwise. Cause the Combaticons are the mercs, and the Constructicons are the average worker Joes.
@@PerspectiveEnd the Stunticons are the roided up gangster grunts you send when you want everyone and everything to die
@@tartatovsky Too late the Combaticons already stole that Schtick.
@@PerspectiveEnd nah. They're more Mercenaries than gangsters.
to be honest, your idea of a vet decepticon team which members get along fits a lot more the Combaticons (for obvious reasons) than the Stunticons. Also, realistically, G1 Motormaster would essentially be enormous in comparison to the other stunticons, so cartoon menasor being Motormaster with cars on his limbs works
See here's the problem with that. The Combaticons have already been really well characterized. They are the Mercs just out there for a pay check, who will scam and con everyone around them, and then bail if they feel the money isn't good enough.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yeah that doesn't really work for the combaticons, only for Swindle.
He scales with the Generation toy/warbotron combiners, that's the scale he's supposed to be
Interesting. That makes some level of sense now.
It's weird that the best painted figures, like Muscle bear Tarn and toy world Devastator, are also the most painfully or frustrating to touch, I guess "look only" is a appropriate term here.
Beauty is painful.
I like your Idea for Menasur. I could even see them having their Bio personalitys, but very much dulled down and withered from years of fighting. They could have been a dysfunctional team, only to grow to be a well oiled machine through years of being stuck together It would also help diversify the Combiner Teams a little
Also, I completely get it. Every time I see a shiny figure for sale I have to drag myself away from it in fear of buying it because it is shiny.
To be fair yeah, you could have it be that they started out as the team that hated each other, and wound up as the guys who had to pull each other out of the fire so many times they just got close by necessity.
The chrome is crisp.
Shinier than the will o' wisp.
The chrome is crisp.
Brighter than the hope
my child can overcome her lisp.
The chrome is crisp.
Gawd damn man, you just brought a tear to my eye.
@@PerspectiveEnd It's the beauty of poetry. :')
Hope you had a great weekend love your videos 😁
Thank you very much you have a great one too.
Not going to lie, you had me in the first minute. It's a pity it doesn't have the articulation or tolerances.
You liked the "Shiny Thing Good"? I've been waiting a full year to do that bit.
I have to say this, it’s wonderful how collectors can collect the same things and like completely different things, because is see this and I just think “wow I need to transform this 50 times at least” great video 10-10
Oh believe me, I REALLY wanna transform this, I just worry about damaging it. Also it seems like a nightmare to get together. The chest is a fake part too. Like everything is fake parts.
@@PerspectiveEnd fair enough, but I might have to watch some reviews because I love dragstrip and might just need this one
I don't know why this video made me want legacy Menasor.
Cause you know it has to be better than this.
Get the crystal furai model prime. No load bearing plastic or transformation so breakage won’t be as much of an issue. My brother has it and it looks great
It does look cool. Unh I wan it.
Me and all my brothers were saving up for this for a while. Now none of them care about Transformers. But I still really want this or the normal version. Just because it looks cool.
Sorry to hear that your brothers fell out of love with the fandom, but I would advise you not to pick this up, I hear the individual bots are good but the combiner just doesn't work unless you have it propped up against a wall.
the stunticons: a metal group of cons who don't give a crap
meanwhile if they both were alive:
offroad: can you please go out with me
alpha bravo: yes
toxitron: what are you 2 doing?
alpha bravo: nothing
fractly: i knew it you 2 were a thing
offroad: where you 2 watching us
counterpunch: us 3 were watching you
cast:
alpha bravo: adin rudd - ( kind serious voice)
offroad: eric bauza - (a calm voice)
toxitron: john dimaggio - ( badass american voice)
fractly: robin atkin - ( crazy scientist voice)
counterpunch: kevin michel -( for a bad ass spy voice)
Was that like a reference to something? What's with the actors?
@@PerspectiveEnd i thought of alpha bravo being a nice serious autobot and i thought of offroad as somewhat of a samurai so i went with the voice actor of drift in rid toxitron's personallity is based of the soldier from tf2 fractly is a crazy doctor and counterpunch is of course a spy and its no refrence to anything its just a joke that the stunticons are just wreckin stuff up while offroad is in a relationship with an autobot sincre funpub gave them a somehwhat couple ideal
I hate Menasor as a design but damnit I love the stunticons, between Deadend, Wild Rider, Breakdown, they're all great in their own way, I do see potential for the Legacy Menasor but I'm not raising my hopes too high, because it is still just Menasor, Toaster approved video
Menasor is such a lame design. Of all the combiners he's the one who REALLY needs some spice.
in my opinion the best menasor out there is the fansproject one just because unlike every other fucking one he isn't just a robot with cars slapped onto him his arms are actually completely made out of the stunticons and his calves are actually made out of the 2 lambos it looks amazing and is what a combiner should be at the very fucking least it just really pisses me off that menasor is even considered a combiner like he's the runt of the combiners and it just makes me angry that the legacy menasor is gonna be the exact same fucking thing every other company is doing rather then doing a nice stylized version
The fansproject one is just a different version of this same take on Menasor.
And yeah I fully expect the Legacy one to be boring.
While i prefer to imagine the stunticons as gángsters that joined the cons for benefit, your au sounds great.
Thank you very much.
Honestly I like Menasor and the Stunticons more for my own made up version of him rather than any canon appearance he’s had.
My version of The Stunticons are young reckless idiots to me basically, made a combiner by Shockwave since they were expendable.
They’re a the rookie team which can’t get along, with even their combined mode not working half the time, made up of a bunch of teen boys who are always fighting over stupid shit (even while in the middle of battle).
Basically I think of them as comedic characters who are only a threat because of how unpredictable they are and how SCARY he can be when they actually work as a team. Idk, when I heard ‘Stunticons’ I couldn’t help but think of young men drag racing and doing stupid shit in their cars.
But your version would probably work better as an actual team in a transformers story lol
Yeah just about the worst version of them is the official one. There's nothing interesting about them.
I don't know that I can call it my version, but it would fit better in a dramatic story.
This toy: 🎵 I'll never hide I can't I'm too SHINY🎵 WATCH ME DAZZLE LIKE A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH🎵 STRUT MY STUFF IS SO SHINY🎵 SEND YOUR ARMIES BUT THEY'LL NEVER BE ENOUGH MY HIDES TOO TOUGH🎵
I have no idea what you are referencing.
@@PerspectiveEnd it's Shiny from Moana
I’m surprised he never brought up FansProject Menasor
I didn't know it existed till after I started getting comments on this video.
From what I've heard about this set, the gestalt is the WORST part of it. Each of the individual bots on their own are excellent in both robot and alt mode, so most people keep them that way. Also I have to thank you for getting me into picking up the MMC Combaticons. I LOVE that set.
I'm so happy to hear that I convinced you to pick up that wonderful thing, it's so awesome isn't it.
And yeah it would make sense that the combiner is the worst part, though it's the coolest part.
Tf creators were like: decepticon F1? Let's make him archetypical victory obsessed racer
Like, they seem like guys who were thought about as cars first and cybertronians second
Yeah there isn't really anything inspiring about their characters. The Combaticons have Swindle, and as a team they are mercinaries, the Constructions have Hook a beauty obsessed crane and the teams are unique in other ways.
The Stunticons have...
I’m kind of excited for the legacy Menasor, because we still really need a good Menasor. I just really like the stunt icons. If you don’t, that’s ok. But I still think we need a good representation. Because most of the good figures in insanely complex, and stylized so they won’t fit in g1 or movies. And the ones that aren’t really stylized, well….. combiner wars. And the good non stylized Menasors, are too big, unless you collect only masterpiece, and are an actual financial idiot.
Yeah I hope that version of them really turns out. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with as most 3P Menasors tend to be extremely complex.
Yeah, the Vietnam vets weren’t zonked on _weed,_ bro. They were tasting a slightly stronger flavor of danger.
It was the 60s plenty of them were all about weed, and I'm not saying they are still in Nam, I'm saying they are like the guys who came back.
@@PerspectiveEnd the guys who came back brought the skag trade to the US. Often shipped inside coffins. For real.
I’m putting “like a muppet at a rave” on a tshirt.🤣
Feel free, just put my name in Quotes next to it.
PerspectiveEnd is gonna hate me for this, but whatever.
Menasor is my favorite Combiner ever, and I love how stupid his G1 design is, and I'm not being ironic. The thing is that I like to think to myself how a proper redesign of Menasor could make him look cool and, perhaps, _menacing_ .
Oh, and I also believe that he is indeed the strongest G1 Combiner.
I don't hate you for that.
Also if you like thinking of how to do a proper redesign of him, what's wrong with this?
@@PerspectiveEnd Actually, nothing. This design is, as you said, _excellent, yeeees!_ It's that I don't personally like it really much. But seeing your video I might change opinions. You're a wonder, Perspective!
Surprised that you never pulled the trigger on the PerfectEffect "M3 Intimidator" (a smaller CHUG scale IDW Menasor).
TransformMission...idk, but I suspect that much like Warbotron with their Bruticus & Computron - *especially with the way that face sculpt looks* - well...the only suspect I can come up with is Generation Toy. They have to be. That face looks WAY too similar to Gravity Builder.
Meanwhile...Jinbao Devastator & upgrade kit: WOW, that thing is amazing and makes the Jinbao Predaking look like a joke.
I never even heard about that thing, yeah it does look interesting.
What do you mean it's like Warbotron, with the way the FaceSculpt looks like Bruticus or Computron, Two characters who don't have a face.
Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks little of the stunticons, not only are they aren't as fleshed out as most would think but yeah their combined mode looks like one of the laziest combiners that came out of g1 and any design to fix the original is worlds ahead of them imo. Like I don't understand why some people think a big gray and black robot man with whole ass cars plastered against his limbs looked so cool, at least the idw design is one of the best.
Yeah he's awful, and I don't get why he's so many peoples favorite.
I really like the head sculpt but those horns look like they’d snap off quiet easily.
I realise you didn’t want to handle it too much but what were your thoughts on the plastic? Was there any diecast in it? Also I know you were worried about the chrome chipping but did any of it scratch off during the review?
Didn't have any chipping. The damn thing was very heavy but I don't know if that was just due to the chrome.
I wish more figures were this shiny
As do I. As do I.
i don’t know if someone mentioned this in another comment already, but to answer your question of if this company either rebranded or was just a one-off for another company: i vaguely remember reading somewhere that transform mission and generation toy were both offshoots of warbotron, aka the only company that can make the technobots look cool.
Someone else mentioned that to me, and I find it shocking because of how different this is from the Warbotron. Like outside of the Aesthetic the Warbotron was honestly better, and more durably built.
@@PerspectiveEnd i think this set might've had different designers or something, because even the generation toy stuff was better built and felt more reminiscent of warbotron design-wise. i guess this set just looks so different because they were explicitly going for an idw design instead of their own designs.
Does this set come with a small Optimus figure? I saw Emgo's review about it, which btw looks pretty good, doesn't fauxform and has a very good use of parts, it might have some proportional issues but looks great anyway, also and he said that transformmission is Generation toy (those guys who did the IDW Optimus and a devastator I think)
I did not receive any kind of small Optimus with this set no.
If you dont mind me asking what size is your lightbox? (In inches perferably) i only ask because i plan on purchasing a 16x16 one for my own reviews
This is the normal one:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07922MDPG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the big one:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GIL6EU4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
Imagine the stunticons being the fast and furious gang of cybertron and motor master saying family😂😂😂🤣
This is perfect 🤣🤣🤣
Motormaster: "I don't have friends, I got family"
The thought of that makes my skin wish to crawl off my bones.
I think you should watch a video to get the full rundown on the articulation, as it is actually a bit more pose able than that
Interesting. I don't know how. I did everything I could to get the joints to move. You have no idea how tight the elbows are, like on the Drag Strip arm I physically can only get to the first ratcheted detent. I can't get it to move any further. Is there a video you recommend on the subject... Just nothing from Emgo please.
@@PerspectiveEnd Sorry, but the best rundown I could find was emgo. Some don’t even mention the extending shoulders. Best thing I can recommend is using closed captions. As a side note, why don’t you want an Emgo video?
man so much complaint from a lot of people for all the issues previous figure had yet they didn't even try to fix it and just repainted it in chrome and re sell it again wow... hope a 4th party picks this up and fixes the problems with cheaper price tag they tend to do with lots of figures.
It'd be cool if someone did that yeah, but I don't see it happening for this particular design any time soon, though I want to be wrong.
That menasor is scary enough but I am still excited for legacy menasor but yes hehe shiny thing
Shiny Good.
3:21 Which explains why he was the only stunticon in cyberverse (
Interesting. Didn't know that.
@@PerspectiveEnd possible Swindle (a member of a combiner team that got fame outside of his team) of the stunticons?
I just realized that the title looks and sounds like "The week of big balls"
*combiner wars flaahbacks*
Grrrr, that voooooooiiiiceeee
Edit: ah, that's *_not even the fifth of it_*
Yeah he was pretty egregious in in. I like to think his last words before dying will be "But we have an army of combiners!" Before he gets chopped in half.
What is a fifth of what?
Okay, Perspective...Chrome toys are precisely the reason you buy those white gloves. can't make fingerprints if your organic tampographs are safely insulated from the toy.
Yeah, but then that's just partsforming for my own body.
I thought that thumbnail was a Movie verse of Scourge head prior to the bumblebee 2 announcement
I wish I could scoop like that.
I just realized after 4 months that the title says "week of big bolls" lol
Yep, It's a sequel. If I'm remembering correctly that wasn't my idea.
This Menasor screams Mike Costa everywhere.
No idea what that means.
@@PerspectiveEnd Is that Mike Costa is a cartoonist for a large part of Ongoing idw.
Generation toy, transform mission, and Warbotron are all the same company. All of their combined forms should be around the same size. Generation Toys defensor seems to break that sadly
Interesting. I had no idea. Warbotron was so unique in their designs I didn't think they'd ever want to make the official ones.
@@PerspectiveEnd Warbotron was the name of their Bruticus, so they rebranded after releasing that and their Computron. As generation toy, they released a devastator, defensor, and other random stuff. And Menasor is the only thing under Transform Mission
Is it just me or does his head look like an older version of starscream with horns?
I was just thinking that. If you pause it on the close up the frame after the light comes back on when the whole image is blown out, it looks just like Starscream.
Okay there, do you have a Superion? I am in the market for one and I’m thinking the Perfect Effect Unite Warriors version but what do you think. (Also, I know a lot of people hate the Aerialbots, but if you were born yesterday, wouldn’t you be a little skeptical if you were immediately put in a interplanetary war as well?)
I like the Aerialbots just fine, for a while as a Kid I was ALL about them.
And Unfortunately no I never picked up any set of them so I don't know which one would be good to get.
Whats your opinion on the Menasor design featured in Transformwrs Devastation?
I mean it's just basically Menasor with the Legs the smarter way around.
I still think it's a really uncool design.
Wait menasor actually looks cool?!
Also road rocket for legacy is a thing now, if they use the arcee mold that would be terrible but hopefully it’s a new mold or a remold but I doubt it, but hey beast wars inferno so hell yeah
What’s a crystal clear figure you are most likely to buy and review?
Man I don't know about the crystal figures. I want them but I know they'd be a bad idea so I'm not sure.
I'm sure it's going to be Arcee.
And wait are the Pics of Inferno?
@@PerspectiveEnd no pics of inferno yet sadly
I feel like your opinions on Toyworld devestator wouldve been similar to this if it didnt break so much
They'd probably be better because if it didn't break it would at least pose better. Though it wouldn't be as pretty.
As far as I know the Stunticons are meant to be the equivalent of a group of middle aged bikers. Even though they work for the Decepticons, their loyalty lies with eachother above all. I remember in one episode of G1, the Decepticons got into a big mess and the Stunticons were watching it unfold, I think the dialogue webt something like this:
Wildrider: should we help'em?
Deadend: that is Decepticon business, not Stunticon business, I say we let'em sort it out on their own.
They don't care for the Decepticons, they don't need the Decepticons. The Decepticons need them, I think that's what they are about, their sheer collective pride and arrogance.
I haven't seen the show in a while, but I remember that. As far as I'm aware they were the most consistent team as a combiner because their personalities worked together, whereas with the other Decepticon gestalts, the components were so chaotically different, the combiners would be just big lumbering brutes.
As I said, I may be completely wrong, but that's what I remember.
That's not quite what they were supposed to be like. They were supposed to be the Combining group who hated each other the most.
Motormaster is supposed to be a Sociopath who torments the others for fun.
Breakdown, is a paranoid schizophrenic who fears the rest.
Dragstrip is supposed to be an Obnoxiou Asshole who tries to one up everyone else.
Deadend is a depressing Nihilist.
And Wildrider is just a violent Psychopath like Treavor in GTA.
@@PerspectiveEnd ngl that does sound like a group of middle aged bikers from an 80's movie.
a wise man once said IT'S WEIRD!!!
To an extent yes.
Again thank Primus I'm not the only one that hates the Stunticons
I don't understand why anyone has tollerence for them.
I have this set and mine posed a little better than yours. But you'll wanna be VERY careful with Wildrider. The joint connecting to the hood and front wheels broke on mine. Mine also had lots of chrome chipping off. It's staying in combined mode on mine
Sorry to hear about yours breaking. And in what ways does it pose better, cause I don't see how mine could do more?
@@PerspectiveEnd Mine seems more stable and can get into more poses. It isn't as floppy as yours (which I am sorry to hear on your copy). I guess it's also because my combiner leg was able plug all the way in so there weren't as much hindrances. While my wildrider wheel broke off, it isn't that bad because you can still tab the wheel in place for both robot and vehicle mode. So technically a slight parts former now. Honestly the chrome did this set dirty. The layer of chrome was what made wildrider so fragile.
I've heard many people say that the newage transparent figures have strong plastic but I havent handled one myself
Yeah I'm just saying with everything being the clear stuff, there's gotta be at least 1 weak part in there.
I’m eager to see legacy Menasor
I want to know what that's going to look like already.
@@PerspectiveEnd They say that the breakdown will be that from Prime... I just hope we get a generation one looking Breakdown that can combine with em down the line at some point, idk about you... BUT I ACTUALLY WANT A GENERATION ONE LOOKING TITAN CLASS MENASOR
I really hope other companies do the more odd or forgotten combiners. Iron factory is doing a liokaiser and we’re getting the train team from hasbro but stuff like buildking (rid01), energon superion, fall of cybertron Bruticus, or the companies could do their own reimagined version.
Seeing G1 stuff isn’t bad but it’s been done a lot the past few years and something new is always nice
I think the problem with like Buildking is that he was so directly based on the toy, how do you improve on it. It would just be the exact same thing again.
Wait so would your concept Stunticons be as old as kup but in new bodies
I wasn't planning on that, just like they'd be from the first wave of Decepticons who probably wound up fighting more than most, maybe they were even veterans before the war started.
Transformission is Generation Toy(or so I've heard)... and isn't there a non-chrome version? It wouldn't surprise me if that variant handles better.
I have heard that the non chrome version has just as many problems. And Someone else said they are also Warbotron.
@@PerspectiveEnd After a bit of "research", I'm convinced that Warbotron, Transformission, and Generation Toy are at least related to each other. Both Warbotron and Transformission released Legends scale model kits along with their combiners(Shockwave with Warbotron, Optimus Prime with Havoc). Generation toy later released the Transformission Optimus Prime kit pre-assembled in a two-pack with their Legends Megatron. What's more, both Transformission and Generation Toy have *very* similar art styles. All that to say, some number of people probably worked on all three.
I would give magic square's menasaur a pass as it uses motormaster's trailer as the skeleton and the end result is reallly good, also its pretty small
Btw, did you find any of the deluxe bots from the ss bb movie wave?
I mean that's how all the Menasors do it now.
And funny you ask about that.
I know that this is completely unrelated to the video, but what are your thoughts on the Lego Optimus Prime rumor?
It's interesting. I'm not big into lego so I'm not too excited my self.
I know he ain’t in the video cus he’s not out yet but am I the only one slightly ticked off that dragstrip’s face is sliver and not blue?
I don't mind the less weird colored face my self.
5:34 Very relatable pain
Thank you for being able to sympathize.