@Apocalypse2031 If you take four years off from your job right now, you could work for 82 days straight too. Mike is a quitter. He quit for 2 years twice. That's four years of load management. Then he tried to be Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders but failed miserably in the "minor" league. At least Lebron stayed the course. Mike even quit once, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. Mental fatigue and burnout?! Mike is a soft nanny goat. And let's talk about the miracle shots of Steve Kerr and John Paxson. John Paxson hit the game winning shot in game 6 of the 1993 NBA finals to keep Mike from going to a game 7. Then Steve Kerr hit the game winning shot in game 6 of the 1997 NBA Finals to keep Mike from going to a game 7. They saved Mike's legacy. Steve Kerr was the most prolific 3 point shooter in the league. He shot 52.3 percent from 3 for a whole season. Steph Curry hasn't even done that. This is who Mike had. He was so good the great Gregg Popovich called him and he won 2 more chips without Mike. And let's talk about game 7 of the ECF against Indiana when Mike was stinking up the joint. Tony Kucoc took the game over and won it to send Chicago to the Finals. You think Mike didn't have help? He played with 4 HOF's and a HOF coach. Add himself and that's 6 HOF's. Mike is the only player in NBA history to play with a guy who is a Hall of Famer in 2 professional basketball leagues. Tony Kucoc is an NBA Hall of Famer and a FIBA Hall of Famer. And you talk about Lebron's Finals losses but don't mention Mike's playoff losses because he couldn't even make it to the Finals before Scottie got there. He got swept by Larry Joe Bird twice "in the first round" 🧹🧹, eliminated from the playoffs by Isaiah 3 times, gentlemanly swept by Milwaukee 3-1. That's 6 seasons off the top. Then he begged Chicago to get Dennis Rodman from San Antonio. The guy he couldn't beat in the playoffs 3 times, he begged to play with. That's some KD type shit. I'll give you this, Mike is on Mt. Rushmore. But Lebron is on Mt. Olympus alone. He's way above Mt. Rushmore.
It’s call free agency it’s apart of sports, LBJ lad teams was never that bad to finish in the top 5 to draft a player like #5Pippen or have multiple 1st round picks #10 Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong #18, not to mention Orlando Woolridge was a good player he was their b4 MJ.
The metrics and accolades say MJ in almost every conceivable way. LeBron’s only real argument is longevity stats, but longevity stats never won a game much less a ring.
Thing is they didn’t even play against each other so it’s not even a fair comparison. But to compare abilities Bron is the better passer and rebounder. Bron is the more versatile defender. Both are supremely athletic but Bron might be a little more athletic cause of his size, strength to go along with the speed and hops. MJ had more agility and fluidity, more polished offensive game and better on ball perimeter defender at his peak. Bron a better 3pt shooter while MJ the better free throw shooter. This isn’t going to make sense for many people but MJ was the better player but Bron is the better all around player
Sadly he actually would. He has spent so much time telling all of us (and himself) that he’s the GOAT because he really wants us all to believe it. As if we couldn’t see what MJ did with our own 2 eyes.
One kid, Benny who admitted he’s only choosing Bron for personal relationships (Bron listens to Benny on live sometimes) and a random lol MJ is clearly better than Bron
@@cosmasrealestateconsultant Jordan has never left the conversation. People just keep throwing LeBron back in there. Once your time has gone for you to show and prove you get more opportunities. Especially when the other guy is retired.
Besides rings and stats. MJ is still the GOAT. He elevated NBA to new heights, he raised the bar. Every one who loves basketball wanted to be like Mike. His handles, his moves, his fadeaways, his dunks. He even made bald heads looked cool.. lol.
It’s MJ for me. Growing up in the mid to late 90’s. It’s all about moments. For some reason the shot in 98 finals vs the jazz is almost as iconic as the free throw dunk to me.
That competitor retired on his team to go play a different sport… and his team did fine without him. Jordan had mfs around him to give him help bron had to do it himself bc he wasn’t blessed to go to a big market team
@@daesamaJordan retired because his father passed away….. instead of just chillin, he tried baseball in memory of his father…his teammates did great because he built them into elite players, y’all like to say he didn’t win until he got help, well, his teammates were scared of the dirty boy pistons, so he decided to instill a hard work ethic and dedication…just look at his teammates in 87,88,89,90, they lacked confidence and inexperience….imagine if he left the bulls and joined the pistons, that’s what your boy did!… He couldn’t make his teammates better so he bailed on them and televised it, what’s worse is that he colluded and conspired with his banana boat buddies to get together and form a Superteam! It’s all on UA-cam, you just got to look for yourself!
bron trades players 3 times a year cause he needs more HELP! 21yrs & still hasnt matched Mj 6 chips, 6 mvp's & 10 scoring titles, what are we debating??💯
Lebron literally is the score king not to mention Jordan ain’t match bill russell. Clearly players don’t have to match each other to be better than one another
Notice when they answered. It is either is straight up quick answer JORDAN or a surprised look on their faces JORDAN like “wtf you seriously asking me this?” The ones that say Lebron has to pause and think about it. For the people born in the mid 80s (Millennials), we were blessed to see and witness MJs 2nd run with the bulls. We also got to witness Kobe’s greatness and Lebron. With that said, just the eye test alone it’s MJ. This generation that argues oh “Lebron had better competition,” is just asinine. MJ was just that far ahead that he made sure there wasn’t any competition to talk about. This is not a knock on Lebrons greatness because his whole body of work is amazing.
LeBron jumps from team to team and forces organizations to trade for the top talent the league has to offer and still loses championships lol 6 to be exact lol
I don't even think we should be comparing LeBron to Scottie Pippen, he's not even on that level yet. LeBron just happened to be on every great team assembled around him, and even then he missed out on so many opportunities. not even really top five, do the math and if Michael Jordan would have played as long as LeBron did he would have probably broken every record.
@@cosmasrealestateconsultantyes he does and I tell you one thing for certain Mike nor Pippen would sit on the ground for 15 seconds durning an elimination game praying for a foul what is great about that
Nobody will surpass the greatest shoe endorser ever!! I mean Jordan doesn’t have the most rings, MVP’s or points but no other sneaker will ever out sale the Jordans✅
@@toriblaine3676 its a devil’s advocate statement. Basically what makes Mike the GOAT?? He doesn’t have the most rings, MVP’s , points, Rebounds etc., so what makes him the goat, other than opinions?
@reefb4364 He has the most finals MVPs, The most scoring titles, he has the highest ppg scoring average for a career, in season and playoff averages for a career, now if we wanna say finals MVPs weren't around when Bill Russell was there I get it, but Bill won half his rings in a league of 8-10 teams, then when he was in the playoffs, there were just a simple 8 teams! MJs bracket was 16 so you could almost say 1 MJ ring is 2 of Bills.
@@reefb4364 If you don't know what makes Black Jesus the GOAT then you have the IQ of Jameis Winston in Uber on his way to an Angry Crab Shack. He came into the league with the maniacal mental of killers in serial. And when it comes to elite athletes those with the stout mental fortitude are vastly superior to those with the feeble cerebral. Jordan's mental was as robust as his physical. Speaking of which, his muscle fibers twitched extremely fast. Faster than any NBA player I have ever seen. And I've seen them all in person, while in their primes. And that's why he was such a freakish athlete with insane reflexes, absurd hand-eye coordination, ridiculous bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, quickness, explosiveness, agility, etc. Another very important factor is the fundamentals taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. We have never witnessed another basketball player with MJ's raw athleticism and impeccable fundaments. And the best of the best noticed very early. After the very FIRST time Bird faced a rookie MJ he told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever. You just watch." And after just a couple of years in the league Magic said "There's Jordan then there's everybody else." Russell has the most rings but he was carried by FIVE hall-of-famers offensively. For his career Bill averaged 16.5 ppg while shooting a pathetic .44% from the field. Only time MJ was carried was to the bench by Pippen during flu game. Kareem has one league MVP more than MJ. The first three he won in Milwaukee he had Big O as a teammate. Big O fed him and drew a lot of attention from defenders, allowing Kareem to see a lot of one-on-one coverage. Can't say that about MJ. He never had a teammate that demanded double-teams. NEVER! Then Kareem went to Lakers and played with Magic. Chamberlain averaged 30 ppg for his career but in the NBA Finals he only averaged 18.5 ppg. On the biggest stage he'd wilt. MJ also averaged 30 ppg for his career but in the Finals it went up to 33.6 ppg. Kareem and Wilt were too busy trying to get buckets to become defensive heathens. Not MJ. He's one of the best perimeter defenders all-time. Another extremely important factor is the fear he instilled in foes and how that gave his teammates supreme confidence. Steve Kerr said it best "You were scared to death of him. He was the most dominant force on the floor in every regard. It wasn't just the talent - it was the force of will. People, opponents were defeated by Michael before they even walked on the floor. He made me way better. Not only from the standpoint of the traditional 'great player drawing attention,' and 'OK, they're going to double-team him, I'm going to be open.' That's the easy explanation. But it's more than that. It's don't be scared. It's like, you've got to compete. That's probably the biggest thing I learned from him, watching him, was he was just so fearless. He never shied away from the stigma that would come through failure. He understood fully that if he just went all out every single game and went for it on every single play, the positives would outweigh the negatives, but you just to have to live with the failure. It was unbelievable to be on his team, to be his teammate. And you had to accept that responsibility. You knew he was going to be harsh on you. You knew he was going to be tough on you, was going to talk trash to everybody in practice, test you. And his reasoning was: If you couldn't handle the trash talk in practice, there's no way you could handle the pressure of the NBA playoffs. It made perfect sense. He was right!" No other all-time great had this effect. ZERO! Opinions? Isn't that what it comes down to? Majority of hall-of-famers (Cousy, West, Baylor, Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Mutombo, Barkley, McHale, Kobe, Iverson, Nash, T-Mac, Wade, Ginobili, etc.) view him as the GOAT. Even today's best like Curry, Durant, Leonard, Tatum, Doncic, Lillard, Zion, Butler, Harden, Edwards, Ingram, LaVine, Mitchell view him as the GOAT. And I'll guarantee you that the majority of commentators here will say he's the GOAT. Like the great poet Reggie Noble once said "Case closed."
MJ all day, playing i the league back in the day the refs let those dude play, elbows and all. Lebron have accomplished a lot in his career, but I respect the fact Mike won all 6 of his Championships on the Bulls. I think Jordan or Kobe would of been a much closer comparison in my opinion
@@FIEFA22_ Jordan wins throughout the world. Just not in Drink Champs. If u don't, that's fine. But a lot gonna pick Jordan and truth be told. NBA still hasn't been popular since The Bulls Dynasty was over and Jordan left the League.
Larry Legend will say it's "God disguised as Jordan." Did you know that after the very FIRST time Bird faced MJ in the NBA he told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever - you just watch."
@@focuz4899 Then he'd be blatantly lying like Metamucil Tan aka Mushroom Hammer aka Stormy Relationships aka Hush Payments Due to Bone Spurs when he said Covid would definitely disappear with summer heat since Larry was beaten 3 out of 4 times (twice in NBA Finals and once in NCAA chip game) by a magician who couldn't walk on air and was inferior to Black Jesus. And if anyone is as illiterate as a Mayweather - take your pick, it is you cause you're the one that couldn't read between the lines. What Rocky Dennis hairdo aka Ugly Larry was saying is you on your cocaine circus squad without at least ONE All-Star teammate can't beat me and my FOUR hall-of-fame teammates. How many decades later and no one talks about Boston and them FIVE hall-of-famers sweeping MJ in first round of 86 playoffs. All they talk about is MJ blowing up that rat-infested Boston Garden for 49 pts. in Game 1 and 63 pts. in Game 2 and being named Player of the Game both times even though he lost. And MJ was just a baby Jordan ala Harold Miner. He wasn't even close to touching his prime and Bird was in his and MJ was already superior. Danny Ainge was on Ys Guys podcast recently and said that even though his "stacked" team beat the Bulls that they ALL knew MJ was the best player on the floor.
It’s not about the Finals. It’s not about the stats. If you watch an hour of Jordan highlights and then watch an hour of LeBron highlights, you can CLEARLY see Jordan is the better and more skilled player and it’s not even close… then when you look at the stats and the championships, that solidifies it.
You do realize that there is a player who won 8 straight right? Not two separate 3 peats but 8 straight. With no years off between seasons. This alone pokes holes in your opinion.
@@focuz4899 I give all due respect to Bill Russell… But… You do realize that there were also only 8 and 9 teams in the NBA during that run right? And you do realize the Celtics were overwhelmingly the most talented of those teams right?
@@MDAce150 You do realize that Bill Russell's era was harder than any other era in sports right? He won in the face of all kinds of adversity. Michael Jordan quit once, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. He would have never made it in Racist Boston in the 50's and 60's. Blacks weren't welcome in hotels, on team buses, in restaurants when they traveled. And white players didn't want them in the same shower facilities. Bill was called hateful names, beaten in protests, and received death threats just for winning against white players. And he still won in the face of all that. Again, MJ quit, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. He would have never made it.
@@focuz4899 You don’t know what you’re talking about. MJ thrived in adversity. His mental fatigue and burnout wasn’t because of playing the game, but the side effects of the fame and lack of privacy. You act like people never heckled him or called him names. He was dominating everyone. As amazing as he was, people still rooted against him if they weren’t Bulls fans. He used their hate as fuel. Just like Bill Russell. They’re cut from the same cloth.
Comical - Lebron is one of the main reasons the NBA is so weak. Walking around in tights flopping all over the place not playing tough defense it's a joke now a bunch of dudes and female extensions
LeBron not the commissioner. If anyone made the NBA what it is it's you ppl. After the malice at the palace they had to clean their image. So of course the game looks weak. Them MFS not trying to lose money and have a bad look with predominantly black athletes looking like thugs in the eyes of the media
Better Question is MJ or Kob, I would take a shot because I was born in 96 and seen a lot of kobs games live, Like his game winners everything but it's hard because MJ's Defense, Plus he's more skilled, It's almost Like Pac & Esco... I was born when pac was alive but when I was growing up Death Row Or Amaru ET. Started releasing posthumous albums of pac, But I actually bought nas's albums growing up especially Untitled, Life Is Good, KD 2, And the first Magic album, One of my favorite nas albums of all time besides It Was Written, I Am.., Death Of Escobar Bootleg I had lost, Or Stillmatic, God's Son, iLLMatic Is too much of a classic you just can't touch the album, Just like certain BIG or MJ songs you can't touch or play out, You cannot touch that iLLmatic album Pac is my Jordan, Nas Is my Kobe, When to me nas is Jordan but I'd say kobe cause he's close to pac...
Since he was 10 yo, he was expected to be the next one. To be in the Books at such a young age isn't due to effort but talent first. Kobe was not expected to be what he was before he entered the League and went deep into it: this IS effort! With all respect due
In an era that Doncic said it's easier to score in the NBA than in Europe. Juwanna Mann would average 35 ppg in this Monistat yeast infection cream league.
So what? With modern medicine and training techniques, mixed with the fact he picks and chooses when to play during the regular season, shouldn’t he have a longer career? In those 20+ seasons LeBron’s only played the full 82 games ONE time (and played 81 once). MJ played ALL 82 games NINE times. NINE!!!… (and played 81 and 80) in 15 Seasons. Think about that. He was the best player the world has ever seen and played at an INSANELY high level and out of 11 of his seasons he missed 3 games. Over LeBrons 21 seasons he’s averaged 69 games per season. If Jordan had today’s modern medicine and training techniques and sat out 13 games every year he could have played longer too.
@@MDAce150 Great points. Another thing is that MJ didn't have the luxury to rest while his multitude of prime All-Star teammates carried the load. JR Smith was on JJ Redick’s podcast and said “Kyrie was so good and dominant as a Cav that so many times he made Bron seem like he wasn’t on the court - like he was on the bench.” We've all witnessed Wade and AD do the same.
Bron came out of highschool though 🤷🏾♂️ he a family man with a wonderful family and you don't hear nothing on this dude I got Bron people be riding MJ to hard
King James is the goat Y’all talking like longevity is nothing lol Because it’s the only real individual stats Bill Russell with 11 rings I don’t hear he’s the goat or Kareem with 6
Who are these people that carry this debate??? Cuz clearly anybody either sense knows Jordan will always be the Goat. There’s too much you can’t “re-create” …too much that will never be done again and yes 6-0 MATTERS. I don’t care who you play 💁🏾♂️. Lebron lost to Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, and an OLD Spurs team.
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Jordan's Legendary status is Untouchable !!💥💥
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Exactly MJ🐐💯🔥🔥
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When was this filmed? Because one of the gentleman was talking about Lebron's Space Jam. Was this before that movie came out?
@Apocalypse2031 If you take four years off from your job right now, you could work for 82 days straight too. Mike is a quitter. He quit for 2 years twice. That's four years of load management. Then he tried to be Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders but failed miserably in the "minor" league. At least Lebron stayed the course. Mike even quit once, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. Mental fatigue and burnout?! Mike is a soft nanny goat. And let's talk about the miracle shots of Steve Kerr and John Paxson. John Paxson hit the game winning shot in game 6 of the 1993 NBA finals to keep Mike from going to a game 7. Then Steve Kerr hit the game winning shot in game 6 of the 1997 NBA Finals to keep Mike from going to a game 7. They saved Mike's legacy. Steve Kerr was the most prolific 3 point shooter in the league. He shot 52.3 percent from 3 for a whole season. Steph Curry hasn't even done that. This is who Mike had. He was so good the great Gregg Popovich called him and he won 2 more chips without Mike. And let's talk about game 7 of the ECF against Indiana when Mike was stinking up the joint. Tony Kucoc took the game over and won it to send Chicago to the Finals. You think Mike didn't have help? He played with 4 HOF's and a HOF coach. Add himself and that's 6 HOF's. Mike is the only player in NBA history to play with a guy who is a Hall of Famer in 2 professional basketball leagues. Tony Kucoc is an NBA Hall of Famer and a FIBA Hall of Famer. And you talk about Lebron's Finals losses but don't mention Mike's playoff losses because he couldn't even make it to the Finals before Scottie got there. He got swept by Larry Joe Bird twice "in the first round" 🧹🧹, eliminated from the playoffs by Isaiah 3 times, gentlemanly swept by Milwaukee 3-1. That's 6 seasons off the top. Then he begged Chicago to get Dennis Rodman from San Antonio. The guy he couldn't beat in the playoffs 3 times, he begged to play with. That's some KD type shit. I'll give you this, Mike is on Mt. Rushmore. But Lebron is on Mt. Olympus alone. He's way above Mt. Rushmore.
I’m from Cleveland. Jordan all day, everyday.
Then you are not from Cleveland cuz Jordan won't say anything to you, just like I'm from Detroit "ITS NEVER MJ DAY"
You not from Cleveland if Bron isn’t your goat foh
I'm sorry did Jordan win that ring for Cleveland. I'm pretty sure LeBron and Kyrie did.
I'm not from Cleveland or Chicago MJ is a million times better than LeDiddy James
Bron blew it when he left Miami 2-2. It's no longer a conversation..
It’s call free agency it’s apart of sports, LBJ lad teams was never that bad to finish in the top 5 to draft a player like #5Pippen or have multiple 1st round picks #10 Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong #18, not to mention Orlando Woolridge was a good player he was their b4 MJ.
@@HarlemPSGameryou can discuss this with JJ Barea😂😂
@@HarlemPSGamer Kyrie Wade bosh AD Klove. 😂😂😂😂
coz he wants to fire the coach. P. Riley says, no can do....
thats the problem with players who jumped into the NBA after highschool.
They both took 7 to 8 years to win they first ring regardless of circumstances
0:23 alicia didn't hesitate 😂😂😂
No one should have… like, what are we doing here? This shouldn’t even be a question. 😂
I was wondering why others were. Either they don't know, don't show or don't care about what's going on in the game of basketball.
It's laughable.. really.. Also laughable how ppl automatically rank him ahead of Kobe too 😂
😂😂😂@@hansmransm8835
@@hansmransm8835cos they don't want to hurt his feelings and miss endorsement from LeBron
People who took too long to answer are Lebron fans who didn’t want to admit shit but also didn’t want to lie
Lol true
Yeah like from Chicago so he really didn’t want to pick LeBron but you can tell he’s a huge LeBron fan
or friends with lebron
The metrics and accolades say MJ in almost every conceivable way. LeBron’s only real argument is longevity stats, but longevity stats never won a game much less a ring.
TRUEEEEEEEEEEE
FACTS 💯 Boss!
It’s insane how MJ on top of every advance stats. He really was dominating
Thing is they didn’t even play against each other so it’s not even a fair comparison. But to compare abilities Bron is the better passer and rebounder. Bron is the more versatile defender. Both are supremely athletic but Bron might be a little more athletic cause of his size, strength to go along with the speed and hops. MJ had more agility and fluidity, more polished offensive game and better on ball perimeter defender at his peak. Bron a better 3pt shooter while MJ the better free throw shooter. This isn’t going to make sense for many people but MJ was the better player but Bron is the better all around player
Longevity is made up. It hurts his career. 😊
LMFAO Alicia Keys is like is that even a question?! 😭😭😭
FACTS 💯
She’s a female I doubt she knows anything about basketball
@@HarlemPSGamerknows more than you!😂😂
That's why her voice cracked at the Superbowl
@@FIEFA22_kinda like LeBron’s game cracked in the finals against Dallas and last season versus Denver! 😂
People thinking were just thinking of burning a lebron relationship bridge.
Alicia keys kept it gangster. She almost asking ‘you kidding me’
i bet lebron aint got her as the best r&b neither
Are you kidding
mj is like an institution. Even Lebron wouldn’t be mad we pick mj over him.
Sadly he actually would. He has spent so much time telling all of us (and himself) that he’s the GOAT because he really wants us all to believe it. As if we couldn’t see what MJ did with our own 2 eyes.
@@MDAce150he said it once
@@Hyuugo1 Where’s the clip? Never seen it. And was this before or after he called himself the GOAT?… Twice.
@@MDAce150 YOU show me all the clips where says he's the goat
@@Hyuugo1 ua-cam.com/video/BUqh7t-Aj3c/v-deo.htmlsi=lfhu49yA1NzSfTQP (Standby for the other one)
Its tough choice because they are all GOATs. Greatest Of All Time vs Going On Another Team
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damn💀🤣🤣that's the first one i've heard
It not a rough choice when
People realize nobody is even close to Jordan resume
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Yeah and Jordan never played for the wizards and he put the whole team together in hopes to win another ring 😊😅😂… #delusional
One kid, Benny who admitted he’s only choosing Bron for personal relationships (Bron listens to Benny on live sometimes) and a random lol MJ is clearly better than Bron
Jordan stans so insecure 😂😂😂
@@jaliancasey5409 Jordan “Stans” are just true basketball fans, who understand the game and likely life on a deeper level
@@The_GOE yeah I’m sure calling MJ the goat means you understand life 😂😂😂
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@@jaliancasey5409hell no, on the other hand you seems to be the insure one🤣🤣🤣
Those two guys in the beginning acting like it’s such a tough choice 😂😂😂😂
Vince staples😂
@@seanliu6193 he’s a young buck
MJ will always be the GOAT no matter what Bron does
Period. Lebron fucked up too many times to get that title.
Pretty much. MJ All Day.
That’s what they don’t understand. That shit solidified. Bron can win 100 rings, break all records etc but still…..
You liar Bron has been a Goat for a long time that you have to bring MJ back in talks so we dont forget him
@@cosmasrealestateconsultant Jordan has never left the conversation. People just keep throwing LeBron back in there. Once your time has gone for you to show and prove you get more opportunities. Especially when the other guy is retired.
I compare Lebron to Karl Malone, rock solid , above average but not as skilled as the best of all time , but able to stay consistent for a long time.
True 💯
The better debates and comparisons to lebron should be wilt, pippen or bird not jordan
Bron wouldn't even be mad if he saw this, Bron said himself seeing Jordan was like seeing God himself. That says it all 🤷🏾♂️
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So yu telling me God is a hooper
Jordan for sure
MJ🐐🐐🏀✅🏀✅🏀
this shouldnt be a debate
I been said it wasn't a debate
Jordan made me interested in basketball 👌
There is no confusion it's Mike all day for me
It should be MJ vs Kobe...
and it still would be MJ...
This the first video I've seen that it wasn't even close.
It’s MJ all day, everyday, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Legendary status.
Besides rings and stats.
MJ is still the GOAT. He elevated NBA to new heights, he raised the bar. Every one who loves basketball wanted to be like Mike.
His handles, his moves, his fadeaways, his dunks. He even made bald heads looked cool.. lol.
0:18 when my phone falls on the floor and the screen shatters to pieces😅
Lebron wears NBA jerseys with MJ's logo on it.....debate over.
Very True 🤣🤣💯
I definitely say Jordan
Mj fame and effect are incredible.
Goats don’t flop.
Jordan, thats easy, next question.
Only Gen Z kids be saying Bron. Those who seen both in real time know it's Jordan.
Two legends but i choose jordan
Never a fucking debate on that one Airness MJ all day
Kobe Vs Jordan woulda been a more interesting debate
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What interesting it's obvious jordan on that debate
It’s MJ for me. Growing up in the mid to late 90’s. It’s all about moments. For some reason the shot in 98 finals vs the jazz is almost as iconic as the free throw dunk to me.
No flopers allowed in the GOAT conversation. Recruiter vs. competitor
That competitor retired on his team to go play a different sport… and his team did fine without him. Jordan had mfs around him to give him help bron had to do it himself bc he wasn’t blessed to go to a big market team
@@daesamaJordan retired because his father passed away….. instead of just chillin, he tried baseball in memory of his father…his teammates did great because he built them into elite players, y’all like to say he didn’t win until he got help, well, his teammates were scared of the dirty boy pistons, so he decided to instill a hard work ethic and dedication…just look at his teammates in 87,88,89,90, they lacked confidence and inexperience….imagine if he left the bulls and joined the pistons, that’s what your boy did!… He couldn’t make his teammates better so he bailed on them and televised it, what’s worse is that he colluded and conspired with his banana boat buddies to get together and form a Superteam! It’s all on UA-cam, you just got to look for yourself!
Stop it you know damn well players was flopping even back then
It was the blowout that I expected.
It aint a debate!!
As a Kobe’s fan
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
bron trades players 3 times a year cause he needs more HELP! 21yrs & still hasnt matched Mj 6 chips, 6 mvp's & 10 scoring titles, what are we debating??💯
Lebron literally is the score king not to mention Jordan ain’t match bill russell. Clearly players don’t have to match each other to be better than one another
@@DJRonnyRon1200, the king of padded stats that goes with the longevity, not much of something to be impressed about.
@@DJRonnyRon1200 all time scoring dnt make u the goat it jus means u played longer 🤡😂😂😂😂
@@DJRonnyRon1200 we measure nba players by yr to yr awards and per game stats not all time longevity stats 🤡😂😂😂😂
@@kylonp7311 soooo. In what year was Jordan numbers better than lebron???
Like Dennis rodman said Bron has no moves MJ had moves
Vince is a vibe haha
M.J. and this needs to stop being a question
Jordan or ..... it's always Jordan
FACTS 😂
Nore should’ve known Jeter was gonna pick Mike, he’s a Jordan brand athlete.
I would say Jordan because of his impact
Notice when they answered. It is either is straight up quick answer JORDAN or a surprised look on their faces JORDAN like “wtf you seriously asking me this?” The ones that say Lebron has to pause and think about it. For the people born in the mid 80s (Millennials), we were blessed to see and witness MJs 2nd run with the bulls. We also got to witness Kobe’s greatness and Lebron. With that said, just the eye test alone it’s MJ. This generation that argues oh “Lebron had better competition,” is just asinine. MJ was just that far ahead that he made sure there wasn’t any competition to talk about. This is not a knock on Lebrons greatness because his whole body of work is amazing.
MJ
Who's the brother from 0:45 ? Can't remember his name like in two days trying find it. Shame I forgot it ... Help pls
Jordan is lebrons inspiration. Jordan ain't playing with none of the players from start to finish.
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MJ..and it ain’t even close!!!
That’s a dumb a$$ question😂😂😂 MJ!!!!!
Exactly MJ🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥
George mikan and wilt better
LeBron jumps from team to team and forces organizations to trade for the top talent the league has to offer and still loses championships lol 6 to be exact lol
I don't even think we should be comparing LeBron to Scottie Pippen, he's not even on that level yet. LeBron just happened to be on every great team assembled around him, and even then he missed out on so many opportunities. not even really top five, do the math and if Michael Jordan would have played as long as LeBron did he would have probably broken every record.
Do u even watch basketball
@@cosmasrealestateconsultantyes he does and I tell you one thing for certain Mike nor Pippen would sit on the ground for 15 seconds durning an elimination game praying for a foul what is great about that
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A cool clip, as always 👍
Nobody will surpass the greatest shoe endorser ever!! I mean Jordan doesn’t have the most rings, MVP’s or points but no other sneaker will ever out sale the Jordans✅
Nobody picked him because of his sneakers. They picked him because he is the best and greatest at basketball
@@toriblaine3676 its a devil’s advocate statement. Basically what makes Mike the GOAT?? He doesn’t have the most rings, MVP’s , points, Rebounds etc., so what makes him the goat, other than opinions?
@reefb4364 He has the most finals MVPs, The most scoring titles, he has the highest ppg scoring average for a career, in season and playoff averages for a career, now if we wanna say finals MVPs weren't around when Bill Russell was there I get it, but Bill won half his rings in a league of 8-10 teams, then when he was in the playoffs, there were just a simple 8 teams! MJs bracket was 16 so you could almost say 1 MJ ring is 2 of Bills.
@@reefb4364 If you don't know what makes Black Jesus the GOAT then you have the IQ of Jameis Winston in Uber on his way to an Angry Crab Shack. He came into the league with the maniacal mental of killers in serial. And when it comes to elite athletes those with the stout mental fortitude are vastly superior to those with the feeble cerebral. Jordan's mental was as robust as his physical. Speaking of which, his muscle fibers twitched extremely fast. Faster than any NBA player I have ever seen. And I've seen them all in person, while in their primes. And that's why he was such a freakish athlete with insane reflexes, absurd hand-eye coordination, ridiculous bounce, hang-time, mid-air body control, quickness, explosiveness, agility, etc. Another very important factor is the fundamentals taught to him by a highly-esteemed Univ. dean. We have never witnessed another basketball player with MJ's raw athleticism and impeccable fundaments. And the best of the best noticed very early. After the very FIRST time Bird faced a rookie MJ he told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever. You just watch." And after just a couple of years in the league Magic said "There's Jordan then there's everybody else."
Russell has the most rings but he was carried by FIVE hall-of-famers offensively. For his career Bill averaged 16.5 ppg while shooting a pathetic .44% from the field. Only time MJ was carried was to the bench by Pippen during flu game. Kareem has one league MVP more than MJ. The first three he won in Milwaukee he had Big O as a teammate. Big O fed him and drew a lot of attention from defenders, allowing Kareem to see a lot of one-on-one coverage. Can't say that about MJ. He never had a teammate that demanded double-teams. NEVER! Then Kareem went to Lakers and played with Magic. Chamberlain averaged 30 ppg for his career but in the NBA Finals he only averaged 18.5 ppg. On the biggest stage he'd wilt. MJ also averaged 30 ppg for his career but in the Finals it went up to 33.6 ppg. Kareem and Wilt were too busy trying to get buckets to become defensive heathens. Not MJ. He's one of the best perimeter defenders all-time.
Another extremely important factor is the fear he instilled in foes and how that gave his teammates supreme confidence. Steve Kerr said it best "You were scared to death of him. He was the most dominant force on the floor in every regard. It wasn't just the talent - it was the force of will. People, opponents were defeated by Michael before they even walked on the floor. He made me way better. Not only from the standpoint of the traditional 'great player drawing attention,' and 'OK, they're going to double-team him, I'm going to be open.' That's the easy explanation. But it's more than that. It's don't be scared. It's like, you've got to compete. That's probably the biggest thing I learned from him, watching him, was he was just so fearless. He never shied away from the stigma that would come through failure. He understood fully that if he just went all out every single game and went for it on every single play, the positives would outweigh the negatives, but you just to have to live with the failure. It was unbelievable to be on his team, to be his teammate. And you had to accept that responsibility. You knew he was going to be harsh on you. You knew he was going to be tough on you, was going to talk trash to everybody in practice, test you. And his reasoning was: If you couldn't handle the trash talk in practice, there's no way you could handle the pressure of the NBA playoffs. It made perfect sense. He was right!" No other all-time great had this effect. ZERO!
Opinions? Isn't that what it comes down to? Majority of hall-of-famers (Cousy, West, Baylor, Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Mutombo, Barkley, McHale, Kobe, Iverson, Nash, T-Mac, Wade, Ginobili, etc.) view him as the GOAT. Even today's best like Curry, Durant, Leonard, Tatum, Doncic, Lillard, Zion, Butler, Harden, Edwards, Ingram, LaVine, Mitchell view him as the GOAT. And I'll guarantee you that the majority of commentators here will say he's the GOAT. Like the great poet Reggie Noble once said "Case closed."
What MJ has done for the culture is unparalleled...
This is not a debate
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Hey Guys. Can I watch this anywhere in full Time?
MJ will always be the GOAT!!!!! I'll take Larry Bird over LeBron all day.
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MJ all day, playing i the league back in the day the refs let those dude play, elbows and all. Lebron have accomplished a lot in his career, but I respect the fact Mike won all 6 of his Championships on the Bulls. I think Jordan or Kobe would of been a much closer comparison in my opinion
Why did Alicia get upset when she answered? 😂
its not even comparable thats why
Because it's a stupid question
C'mon now? Some ppl just know real. 🤷🏿♂️
Because asking is an insult to real ones, real ones know! GOAT = MJ faux GOAT = Lebron
Never understood the debate. Both played different positions in different era. Jordan's the G.O.A.T. period.
Literally asking the generation that watched Jordan growing up
Nah! Some young ones and a lot of them pick Jordan
@@midwestkrazy83turner50who young in that video?
@@FIEFA22_ Jordan wins throughout the world. Just not in Drink Champs. If u don't, that's fine. But a lot gonna pick Jordan and truth be told. NBA still hasn't been popular since The Bulls Dynasty was over and Jordan left the League.
96 Bulls sweep any LeBron team.
ASK LARRY BIRD
Larry Legend will say it's "God disguised as Jordan." Did you know that after the very FIRST time Bird faced MJ in the NBA he told a Boston Globe reporter "That guy is going to be the greatest ever - you just watch."
Asked him he says he likes both but ultimately doesn't give a fuck
@@silewis9396not what he said lmao you silly as fk tho
@@katrinachavez3533What Larry was saying was even god can't beat me 😂. Read between the lines.
@@focuz4899 Then he'd be blatantly lying like Metamucil Tan aka Mushroom Hammer aka Stormy Relationships aka Hush Payments Due to Bone Spurs when he said Covid would definitely disappear with summer heat since Larry was beaten 3 out of 4 times (twice in NBA Finals and once in NCAA chip game) by a magician who couldn't walk on air and was inferior to Black Jesus.
And if anyone is as illiterate as a Mayweather - take your pick, it is you cause you're the one that couldn't read between the lines. What Rocky Dennis hairdo aka Ugly Larry was saying is you on your cocaine circus squad without at least ONE All-Star teammate can't beat me and my FOUR hall-of-fame teammates.
How many decades later and no one talks about Boston and them FIVE hall-of-famers sweeping MJ in first round of 86 playoffs. All they talk about is MJ blowing up that rat-infested Boston Garden for 49 pts. in Game 1 and 63 pts. in Game 2 and being named Player of the Game both times even though he lost. And MJ was just a baby Jordan ala Harold Miner. He wasn't even close to touching his prime and Bird was in his and MJ was already superior. Danny Ainge was on Ys Guys podcast recently and said that even though his "stacked" team beat the Bulls that they ALL knew MJ was the best player on the floor.
How can you pick one? Both 🥃
MJ all day
Shannon Sharpe is fuming throwing his phone all over the place after this video 😂 MJ will forever be the GOAT. 🐐
Shannon minding his own business being rich you creating fan fiction in your comments being broke
And u fuming when lebron is mentioned u no better than him
No 1 JORDAN
No 2 KOBE
No 3 RODMAN
No 99 Lebron
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Jordan played with a top 3 player? Jordan fans are not gonna want to hear that 😂.
Cant no player say that there 3-1 vs Mj n the finals like Curry is over LeBron can't be the goat
Only Kareem and Bill Russel can be ranked over Jordan.
Idkkkk 😂
Wilt
Even george mikan
Easiest pick ever on here
It’s MJ isn’t not even close
Jordan never loss in the finals
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It’s not about the Finals. It’s not about the stats. If you watch an hour of Jordan highlights and then watch an hour of LeBron highlights, you can CLEARLY see Jordan is the better and more skilled player and it’s not even close… then when you look at the stats and the championships, that solidifies it.
You do realize that there is a player who won 8 straight right? Not two separate 3 peats but 8 straight. With no years off between seasons. This alone pokes holes in your opinion.
@@focuz4899 I give all due respect to Bill Russell… But… You do realize that there were also only 8 and 9 teams in the NBA during that run right? And you do realize the Celtics were overwhelmingly the most talented of those teams right?
@@MDAce150 You do realize that Bill Russell's era was harder than any other era in sports right? He won in the face of all kinds of adversity. Michael Jordan quit once, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. He would have never made it in Racist Boston in the 50's and 60's. Blacks weren't welcome in hotels, on team buses, in restaurants when they traveled. And white players didn't want them in the same shower facilities. Bill was called hateful names, beaten in protests, and received death threats just for winning against white players. And he still won in the face of all that. Again, MJ quit, in his own words, due to mental fatigue and burnout. He would have never made it.
@@focuz4899 You don’t know what you’re talking about. MJ thrived in adversity. His mental fatigue and burnout wasn’t because of playing the game, but the side effects of the fame and lack of privacy. You act like people never heckled him or called him names. He was dominating everyone. As amazing as he was, people still rooted against him if they weren’t Bulls fans. He used their hate as fuel. Just like Bill Russell. They’re cut from the same cloth.
Comical - Lebron is one of the main reasons the NBA is so weak. Walking around in tights flopping all over the place not playing tough defense it's a joke now a bunch of dudes and female extensions
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LeBron not the commissioner. If anyone made the NBA what it is it's you ppl. After the malice at the palace they had to clean their image. So of course the game looks weak. Them MFS not trying to lose money and have a bad look with predominantly black athletes looking like thugs in the eyes of the media
The debate should be Kobe or Mike... Other then wearing the #23 Lebron has nothing in common with Jordan
That's a lie they do have one thing in common Lebron has at least 4 MVP awards. Its just as easy to say the debate should be Mike or Kareem.
There's no debate like that because it's boring. No hate just facts. That's why there's a MJ LeBron debate video we are commenting under.
@@FIEFA22_ yea this era is all about BS over actual facts
Debate is tried and pointless. Mfs been asking the same shit for 15 years and its the same answer everytime shit boring af
Apparently not boring if I can search MJ and Bron debates and see results. However you search Kobe vs MJ debates and see what you get... I'll wait.
Better Question is MJ or Kob,
I would take a shot because I was born in 96 and seen a lot of kobs games live,
Like his game winners everything but it's hard because MJ's Defense,
Plus he's more skilled,
It's almost Like Pac & Esco...
I was born when pac was alive but when I was growing up Death Row Or Amaru ET. Started releasing posthumous albums of pac,
But I actually bought nas's albums growing up especially Untitled,
Life Is Good,
KD 2,
And the first Magic album,
One of my favorite nas albums of all time besides It Was Written,
I Am..,
Death Of Escobar Bootleg I had lost,
Or Stillmatic,
God's Son,
iLLMatic Is too much of a classic you just can't touch the album,
Just like certain BIG or MJ songs you can't touch or play out,
You cannot touch that iLLmatic album
Pac is my Jordan,
Nas Is my Kobe,
When to me nas is Jordan but I'd say kobe cause he's close to pac...
If you’ve seen MJ and Bron play it’s rather easy to choose from a pure basketball pov and MJ is better on every statistical metric you look at it.
Im going bron im sorry hes my fav player i watched him since i was a kid
So you’re admitting you’re biased then. I never watched Jordan but I don’t need a soothsayer to tell me he’s the greatest
@@toriblaine3676 waab biased like a mf
Plz do Muhammad Ali Or Mike Tyson that would be a good one
lebron is doin it in his 40 .. that's crazy tbh 🔥🔥
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Still not better then Jordan he can do it until he is 50 and still not better then Jordan facts
😂 no defense league
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LeBron have to retire first and then we can revisit this conversation.
MJ & Messi: TALENT And LeBron & Cristiano Ronaldo: EFFORT.
Since he was 10 yo, he was expected to be the next one. To be in the Books at such a young age isn't due to effort but talent first.
Kobe was not expected to be what he was before he entered the League and went deep into it: this IS effort! With all respect due
Lebron shouldn’t be compared to Jordan. So many other greats better than Lebron James.
Bruh people don’t ever realize Lebron is doing average 25 in his 40 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Nothing but STAT PADDING now a days
How does that make him the goat?
In an era that Doncic said it's easier to score in the NBA than in Europe. Juwanna Mann would average 35 ppg in this Monistat yeast infection cream league.
So what? With modern medicine and training techniques, mixed with the fact he picks and chooses when to play during the regular season, shouldn’t he have a longer career? In those 20+ seasons LeBron’s only played the full 82 games ONE time (and played 81 once). MJ played ALL 82 games NINE times. NINE!!!… (and played 81 and 80) in 15 Seasons. Think about that. He was the best player the world has ever seen and played at an INSANELY high level and out of 11 of his seasons he missed 3 games. Over LeBrons 21 seasons he’s averaged 69 games per season. If Jordan had today’s modern medicine and training techniques and sat out 13 games every year he could have played longer too.
@@MDAce150 Great points. Another thing is that MJ didn't have the luxury to rest while his multitude of prime All-Star teammates carried the load. JR Smith was on JJ Redick’s podcast and said “Kyrie was so good and dominant as a Cav that so many times he made Bron seem like he wasn’t on the court - like he was on the bench.” We've all witnessed Wade and AD do the same.
Beans with the Miami Heat Beanie on saying MJ😅
MJ will always be the goat absolutely ZERO debate.
Lebron is so big that some couldn't even pick...with that being said MOST of thr ppl asked are 45+ yo.... WE FINALLY HAVE A COMPETITION FOR MIKE!!
Bron came out of highschool though 🤷🏾♂️ he a family man with a wonderful family and you don't hear nothing on this dude I got Bron people be riding MJ to hard
This is a basket ball question
Mf talking about he has a wonderful family and riding too hard at the same time 😂
@@silewis9396 haters love to hate 🤣🤣 just like you love riding Jordan
@@elliot2177 I know the question lil man
@@jeremiahhudson302 you don't, obviously
It’s really not that hard, it’s Michael Jordan. The real question starts at who’s #2.
MJ doesn’t have a losing record to any of his contemporaries. Steph Curry has a winning record against him.
King James is the goat
Y’all talking like longevity is nothing lol
Because it’s the only real individual stats
Bill Russell with 11 rings I don’t hear he’s the goat or Kareem with 6
Y'all should put respect on Jordan's name ❤
How can you not be the GOAT when you are the most recognizable SPORTS figure WORLD MUTHFKN WIDE! Since the fuckin 80's !
No thinking required: JORDAN. Don't need to talk about why.
6 rings with one team for only 13 years vs 4 rings with 3 teams play for 20 years and still playing tell me who's the real goat?
Mike Jordan
Who are these people that carry this debate??? Cuz clearly anybody either sense knows Jordan will always be the Goat. There’s too much you can’t “re-create” …too much that will never be done again and yes 6-0 MATTERS. I don’t care who you play 💁🏾♂️. Lebron lost to Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, and an OLD Spurs team.
It was strange that Scarface chose neither
Means his team nvr could beat Jordan and The Bulls and lost probably alot of money. I've heard stories from the past of that going on.
Not really there's a plethora of players that have goat like resume