Grain Spawn Experiment FULL: Finding the best type of grains for mushroom farming
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2022
- Fresh from the Farm Fungi's Gary dives deep into grain spawn exploration. This video covers the full comparison between millet, wheat, rye, oats and pop corn grains used as grain spawn! The race is on and yields are on the line in this exciting Myco-experiment MUSHLOVE
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OK here is the deal: For the last 4-5 years, I have been watching so many and many videos related to mushroom growing, so I can learn about this science, in terms of doing the most with the least amount of work and expenses. If I had my own Oscar award organization, I would have given this video the TOP AWARD in lots of categories. The first one would be: you truly took the time in PLANNING the topic you wanted to present. The second category, lets call it STAGING, you generously set the stage for all different grains for benefit of your viewers! That means you CARE and have EMPATHY for viewers like me from Missouri so you went the extra mile for creating small size grain containers. Also an award for executing your research plan for extended number of days. Keep up the good work!
thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🍄❤️
I agree 💯% , very informative video, I love experiments like this ! Plus this guy seems like a nice person and authentic, anywho take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Would have liked brown rice tested. It is used all over the world and is available. The ones tested are often not available...
I'm in Philippines...thanks.
But he did not explain anything about the bulk substrate 😕
@@bozzigmupp510 that wasn't the topic of the video. So that makes sense. He covered the topic of the video very thoroughly I thought.
best mycology channel on youtube
thanks!
Hey Gary, what a great experiment, and thanks for sharing it with us. The so-called porosity is another factor that can be used to determine if the grains tend to be more on the dryer side or the wet site. Here, Oats are more on the dryer side, and corn on the wet side. Wheat, millet, and rye are in between. Congrats on the new book.
Great video, I love that it wasn't a series, but rather a full start to finish video. I am ready to start growing and your videos have helped a lot.
Dude get tf outta here with that shit. This is UA-cam
Potential nark alert
Gary, this video was genuinely awesome! I especially enjoyed being shocked on which grains cane out on top for times and weights. Thank you SOO MUCH for sharing the journey with us on this!!
So stoked to watch this. Thanks for documenting your grain experiments!
Love this video. Thank you for sharing your work and passing along this knowledge.
Thanks for all your informative videos Sir.
Thanks so much for this complete video.
Absolutely great experiment! Thanks so much for sharing.
Absolutely fabulous video very helpful and super informative very well done thank you!!!!
Great video I appreciate you showing the progression
Thanks for the great info Gary. Looking forward to getting your book. Enjoyed your contributions on 90sm live stream.
Such a dope video. Really cool to watch the experiment process!
Thanks for asking questions, finding answers and sharing the process. Love your content.
Thank you so much for this experiment, we loved it. Keep them coming
I will say, your workshop was incredible. Thank you
Thank you so much for sharing this information with us all.
Thanks Gary for sharing knowledge
Great experiment, not the result I was expecting. Thanks for the vid 👍
That is a big ass flo Hood
Great video! Thank you so much for running that experiment! What beautiful mushrooms . I’m a year late discovering your videos but I’m learning so much from your channel ❤
Great video, you can tell a lot of thought and effort went into this. Really appreciate it.
Thank you for sharing this valuable video
Excellent! As always.
Thank you for love!
Epic video! By far the most educational, start to finish, thorough UA-cam video I've ever seen. Well done!👏
Awesome videos.....your teaching.....I'm learning ....thanx for the great videos!!!!!!!!!
Gary.... you did an excellent job on this video. Thank you for showing people how fast millet gets the mushrooms growing! Keep up the good work!
Great ..Excellent Experiment Process....n Clear Presentation any Lament can Folow easily...
Gary, always a pleasure. Been following you since the beginning. I like your rubber band trick for side fruiting prevention. Mush Luv Dude!
Great video, keep up the awesome work! I love to shake and break my grain spawn 24 hours before I run it on bulk. Gives it a extra boost with the head start. Mushlove
Super grateful that you posted your experiment here. I’m did a mix of rye and millet at a 7/30 ratio and it worked spectacular. Shortly after my first break and shake it was full colonized within days
Excellent video. Great info 👍
Thanks man really helped me out!
I am from Romania and I am happy to follow you. The problem is that I don't know the language and google doesn't translate well. However, I understand something with the help of images. I'm a beginner in the field. I think it's a fun hobby. Thanks for all the tips!
Hello
Thanks a lot for the work and Info.
Regards from Germany
Super awesome video thanks !
Best mycology video I've seen on UA-cam. Thank you for sharing so much information with us!
thanks! 🍄❤️
Great analysis
awesome video. thanks for the info!
Excellent experiment, I really appreciate you sharing this information. I’d love to see a ‘grow-off’ between wheat, millet, and sorghum/mylo ❤
Really helpful experiment. It's great to finish with what really matters, it's whatever you can get cheap! And that's going to vary based on Time, Location, etc
good work great information thank you
Excellent presentation! I learned a lot and was fun to watch . Thanks 👍 take care! Peace ☮️ from Welland Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Awesome information, thank you😊
Amazing man. A well thought out experiment with a well executed video. Love that it was all one video and I didn't have to search for parts. Keep up the good work and I always look forward to you on 90s lives.
Great video keep it up man.
Great video by the way.
I really enjoy the videos, you seem to break things down into layman's terms! Keep them coming
What a great video - compelling viewing! The suspense was killing me! Well done.
Amazing Great job, thank you Sir.
I've been testing on barley. Seems to be fine. A 50lb bag for 12.50 from a farm store. Wild bird feed works also it has a mixture of everything.
Very nice. You obviously thought a lot about this and the delivery was great. I also think at current pricing Oats is the sweet spot. But I would never have really known it unless you ran that experiment. Great job.
This video was awesome!!!
Milo (sorghum) grain is my preferred spawn. It’s excellent.
Great video
Been waiting for this one. Thorough work. Very cool seeing the progress and outcomes in one video. Outstanding as always. Thanks for sharing.
20:18 REALLY good to learn that you can still send a stalled grain spawn to bulk and it can still continue myceliating and spring back into action!!!
Seems like the yield may have been lower due to the stall, but "lower yield" is infinitely better than "no yield" 😁 Thanks, Gary!!! 🤘🏻
Awesome vid, dude.
I wonder how a millet/popcorn blend would work. The millet could fill in the gaps around the popcorn, letting you pack in more calories.
great study, tyvm
Great content!
Millet is awesome, although with prices as they are, Whole Oats is the cheapest, best option for my grows.
It was 16 bucks for a 50 lb bag of whole oats and now it is up to 26 bucks. Millet is 42 bucks for a 50 lb bag.
I think an experiment like this would be best performed over a long term, recording averages. Otherwise a single instance like this is going to be anecdotal at best. Run solely corn for a few months. Measure the performance like you did here, but average it across many, many bags. See how it performs with different species. See how different levels of moisture affect the performance, etc. Then repeat for the different grains. I suspect there a lot more variables here affecting the results than what grains were used, personally. The good news is this: all the selected grains produced mushrooms! So for newbies, the key lesson here should be to "just start!". Don't be afraid. Buy whatever is cheap and easy to get, and use it.
yes my own experiences are reflected in this video but once I have more data I will revisit this
Especially corn may benefit from a few pulses in a blender.
Very interesting work - Thanks!
Thank you for this info
I did similar test, considered combination of their hydration capacity, size, nutritional value and price. Rye is almost pure winner in my book, especially when i pay 1$ per 10lbs*.
*Buying directly from small farmer, which doesn't use any fungicides, pesticides or herbicides. They aren't the most pretty ones and cleanest, but washing and separating floaters solves the problem. Floaters are amazingly well accepted as spawn run by Ganoderma btw, so nothing goes waste.
cool thanks for the ideas!
cool experiment.
Great information, great work, 100% A+++
Great content bro. I’m also here in denver.
wow you really went ALL in
Very informative. Just love you channel. Like to know your opinion regarding brown rice for making spawn. Thank you.
it works but it can get very sticky and is easy to overcook - but if it’s cheap and accessible it can be a great option
Spoiler alert!!!
Wow! so the pop corn caught up in the end.
Hey neighbor, I'm here in Denver too. Very cool experiment, just getting into cultivating gourmet mushrooms and I'm finding the process and engineering to be some of the most fun parts. I'd love to see a rundown of your equipment and setup (if you haven't posted something like that already). I've hella gotten way ahead of myself while waiting for my spawn to colonize, I'm attempting to design and build an embedded control system to monitor and handle FAE and humidity automatically in the fruiting phase. Mostly for fun, I'm sure it's extremely impractical. But it's been an incredible learning experience as I have done several "dry runs" with a kind of mock bulk substrate to test the system. Your videos have helped me a ton, so thank you! I'd love to take a class if you start doing those again.
cool! Check out our farm tour video here - ua-cam.com/video/OSbySIa5lBE/v-deo.html There is definitely a need for this in the market space right now I use inkbirds amzn.to/3wPjfle but they do not have a CO2 sensor so it took a bit to dial in and still continues to drift now and again. If you could manage that and keep the price point reasonable Id be interested for sure! Also, check out the video on air exchange explained in breaks down the environmentals more
Its great to learn from ure experiments. Love this channel. I will experiment in near future with mycelium for product design in my studies, so its nice have people like u, who share their knowledge. 💚
Maybe an inspiration for u. I thought about starch und glucose based hydrogel, if crunched could be a good spawn material. It could be a more controlled medium. Anyway
Go ahead 👍😁 and greetings from germany.
I have been running tests using popcorn, with another grain that I used with 'Sillies' - Brown Rice. I also put coffee grains in there. Hydrate the grains separately, and combine. Imagine how many thousands of inoculation you end up with. Plus, the coffee is a good source of nitrogen. Humans like coffee, too.
love the head to head comparison, but would have been nice to have seen my favorite grain milo in there too!
Yes milo is a great spawn
I was in Colorado a couple of times ❤
Great tutorial !!
Can you make a video on how to create spores before inoculating into the glass jars.
yes we have one here ua-cam.com/video/uSutQFMqo0c/v-deo.html
Great video. Where is the Wild Bird Seed at? That’s all I use. Easiest of all to get.
I used rye all time and always shook it up.
I've never seen mycelium stop growing afterwards.
I lately decided changing over to millet.
Please make a video about chanterelle grain spawn and in Petri dishes.
Brilliant, many thanks 👍🏻 🙏 🌹 🌈 🇬🇧
Hello. Great video.
By the way, I really like Your jars to grow spawn. Do You use them also for sterilization ?
they can be autoclaved yes - I sometimes store pieces of my media extractor in them so yes 👍
My dream is to one day just do expirements like this but on a massive scale, like 30 bottles of each and averaging together all the data, and repeating and all that to truly determine stuff like this
I’d love to be able to finance these efforts as well - Give me about 10 years to grow the business and I can hire you for R&D
One of my other issues, even with wide mouth, is using quart jars; because the jar is still more wide than the opening. With the 1pint wide mouths, the opening and the jar are the same ID, so the stuff slides right out. Quarts are ok if you have a long transfer needle, but otherwise the 1pint wide mouth are great for both spawn and lc's; it's really the only size you need with jars.
yes this is true but I like how many fit inside a pressure cooker especially doing test batches 👍
Excelente seu vídeo. Você pode explicar como esterelizar os grãos? Obrigado. Brasil/ES
Great video. Do you usually have good luck with syringe filters on grain jars? I just ran quarts with them and I'm pretty sure they choked out. I know that syringe filters stop the vacuum in LC jars and suck in filtered air but not sure how good they are at allowing for passive GE.
they work great for me with these half pint jars and I like it for pressure cooking I don’t have to worry about loose lids
If you ever do the test again you might want to try using whole grains like ya did and then do another set with crushed grains like say rolled corn just to see if it speeds up colonization. It’d be an interesting test
Wish you did brown rice as well but good job
I got 50 pound bags of oats -- the cleanest oats I have ever seen! -- at Tractor Supply, for only $10 per bag. I won't be using anything else for mycology work. The man who helped me was trying to get rid of them. Someone ordered 50 bags and never picked them up. I win! 🎉🎉🎉 TRIPLE CROWN WHOLE OATS, NATURAL is the brand name. I didn't have to pick out a single bean or a piece of straw out of it. I've been looking for a clean grain. I finally found it! 🙌🏽
good day to celebrate! 🎉
im astonished by the differences in yeild. maybe it's just probability or the later flushes will equalize them, but from the data, i'd think its definitely worth to look deeper into what makes a little bit of millet move the needle that much
Hey Gary! Great video as always!
Why did you stop using sawdust spawn?
mostly because it was getting harder to source and store. but also yields, speed of growth and consistency between batches improved when I switched to grains
As popcorn has a very hard outer layer, consider using cracked field corn ?
Whole corn fed to cattle passes through their digestive tack and come out whole. Pigs eat the cattle's manure and can digest most of the corn. Chickens pick through the pig's manure to get the remaining corn.
Gross, but breaking the grains hard coating it the answer to higher feed conversion.
Hi, great videos and I am learning a lot. A quick question here on sourcing substrate. I am also in the Denver area and cannot seem to find either rye or soy bean shells. Do you have a local source for these? thanks
@Hope Beel thanks, but I am not looking for kits. I need the rye seeds and the soy bean shells for the master mix.
I'm just learning and there is so much to learn,
Did you mention what you used for sub straight ?
I must have missed that.
And what is the best and cheapest sub straight one can use for home use ?
Goud job
Thanks so much for the video. I placed an order for your Pioppino LC on Etsy yesterday. Are you using a large grow bag? I have 3t and xlst bags. Looks like you are using a .5 micron filter? Will the finer filter cause problems during pinning? I'll cut hole in it after pinning anyway...just wondering if the smaller filter could be an issue with air exchange for this specific mushroom.
I think they will both work, the tradeoff for air exchange is kind of balanced because there will be less evaporation - usually that means more fruits but smaller or skinner - they will both work well 👍
Very well done as usual. I'm curious to know for a first timer and home use only grower do you suggest to use half pint jars or quart jars for making spawn? I'm assuming you used half pint just for the experiment but use quarts for production? Thanks Gary
I like half pints for breeding and testing and then I use 5lb bags for production 👍 quart jars would work too though they have their place - If I was doing 10lb bags Id consider
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi Should I NOT use a full Qt spawn jar for a 5 Lb bag? I have 36 fully colonized, FULL, Qt jars ready to go. I'm just waiting one week for my apartment inspection before rebuilding my living room/walk-in chamber.