Thanks for your great comparison video! If budget isn’t an issue, would you go for the ApplePie Rocket (with the 6490 chip) or one of Carlinkit’s models (6225 or 660)? I’ve heard Carlinkit’s system might offer a better experience. I mainly plan on using it for Spotify and UA-cam Music, and maybe watching a few UA-cam videos now and then. What’s your recommendation?
Both adapters you mentioned will do UA-cam Music and Spotify as well as UA-cam videos very well. Lag is very dependent on the car system that is plugged into and you’ll find if it lags on one it will lag on the other. It’s just how the car system is working with the box in general. So if you want to save some money, I would go for the carlinkit 660, or MMB 5.0 or ApplePie 996E or the Linkifun GT6 I reviewed recently on this channel. The 6490 will certainly have the grunt to do many other things and play games without breaking a sweat, but if you really are just watching video and listen to music then it doesn’t have to be the fastest box available.
So, in digging about, I THINK the difference may be that while the 6225 is nominally newer and faster than the 660, the Adreno 512 GPU actually has better marks across the board compared to the 610 if you look at the aggregate scoring on Notebookcheck. I'm not sure as to WHY, I know there are higher shading units, cache and memory bandwidth listed for the older GPU, so might very well be application specific. In either case, I think I'll be sending my 6225 box back for a 660 rather than bank on a software fix. ;)
That’s a wise choice. Also you may have to make sure the Adreno info is the mobile version and not the desktop/laptop version which could have more horses behind it. Still it doesn’t really explain the bug some 6225s are having and some that do not have the playback issue. I also learnt very recently that the 6125 can playback video up to 4K 30 whereas the 6225 can only do up to 1080 60. I have downloaded some samples to test this in my future adapter tests.
Wow these boxes are still using the floating dot? My 3 yr old box isn't much different... been waiting for a reason to upgrade, but they just don't want my money I guess.
You can disable the floating button, and use back control on your steering if you have one to get back. If you want an upgrade go with Apple Pie rocket.
@@Vanessa-dk6bj I have been looking at the Applepie Rocket. My hold up is the 5G network compatibility. I am in the US and keep seeing conflicting info if it works here or not. I can't find a video that states or demonstrates this working in the US.
Hi mate I got an otto cast cartv mate pro adaptor. It has LAG! look like its going at 30fos, a bit like a slideshow. is this normal for the HDMI conversion adapters? I got a carlinkit one but it won't work with my Mercedes EQS. I tried upgrading software but it won't let me. says 'retry' on the page to update it. what's the best box you've tasted? Is the SDM 660 the best option/shout or are there better options?
These hdmi to CarPlay adapters are pretty new so I still think they are figuring it out. 30fps sounds about right, but slide show certainly doesn’t. The CarlinKit is really picky with what car system it can work with and upgrading them is pretty useless. There plenty of Ai boxes out there. The best fastest chip is the QC6490. Then QC6225, then QC660 then QC6125. Anything less than this you’ll want to avoid. The MMB 5.0 packs the 6225 as does the ApplePie AI 996E. You might notice in this video the ApplePie has a very high DPI setting which can make some apps appear very small but also be better for navigation in some apps. Something I might touch on in a future video. Hope this helps
It is interesting that you mentioned this. I too have recently purchased a carmate pro. The C4 carplay/AA model. Using a firestick, the framerate seems to go at 25fps. Duplicate and drop frames. Firmware has been updated as well. Very disappointed in the C4. I want to try the carlinkit version but am afraid the results will be the same. I am using a 2023 Genesis G80
I rented a car yesterday that experienced the same video lag and audio problem. Never had the problem with my car and I am using a box with the 6125 inside. I am going to try it again inside my car to see if it happens again. I don't know if it was a car compatibility problem or something software-wise that affected my box yesterday.
the lag in audio sync can be very car system-dependent. My VW Golf had some varying levels of lag, and in my newer Born system, I don't experience as much lag in some of the boxes I've tested (aside from the AI Boxes with the issues reported in this video). I'll need to revisit the CarlinKit 6125 to see if it is a common issue with this family of chipsets, but as I pointed out in the video, some other brands don't have this trouble with the same chipset. Very odd behaviour. 🤔
It’s mostly down to how both CP & AA works on these boxes. It’s done through software layer via an App on the Android platform of the box than being done on chip through a dedicated adapter or native on a car display. Only then does pinch and zoom work on Android Auto.
If we’re talking CarPlay, Carplay doesn’t support pinch and zoom. The closest way you can do at least in Apple maps is to double tap the screen and on the second tap hold and swipe up and down to zoom in and out
That would be great on an Ai box but I can’t see them doing it. I’m not sure if you have to licence each box to have androidTV on them, and that would cut into their chunky profits :)
Thanks for the comparison. Even though the 6225 was recommended, I went with the 660 because of the USB port. I drive an Audi -tron. Everything works fine, no lag in audio or video, good gaming. Only thing I cant get to work is Android Auto. The T-UHD says in my menu system that I am connected through Carplay (Even though my phone is a Samsung S21 Ultra android) When I switch the box to android auto ( Blue led light), it shows up as "Android Auto-Google Pixel". But when I try to connect to it says: " Connection could not be established. Please ensure that you have selected a device, thats is compatible with Audi Smart phone interface" So I continue to use it in apple carplaymode (green led light) I dont notice a difference. Is there a difference at all when connecting through Apple carplay, instead of android auto? Some apps I love using: Retro Arch / Security cameras Reolink / Doorbel / IPTV/ Smarthome system. The TUHD is now the focal point in my car!
You lucked out there with the 660. Phew! ☺️ It doesn’t make much difference between running it on CP or AA. In my test here ua-cam.com/video/YTHFJZVPYDo/v-deo.htmlsi=oYsSCR8G_O4nhx6V I found CP was slightly faster than running it on AA platform.
Thanks for your great comparison video! If budget isn’t an issue, would you go for the ApplePie Rocket (with the 6490 chip) or one of Carlinkit’s models (6225 or 660)? I’ve heard Carlinkit’s system might offer a better experience. I mainly plan on using it for Spotify and UA-cam Music, and maybe watching a few UA-cam videos now and then. What’s your recommendation?
Both adapters you mentioned will do UA-cam Music and Spotify as well as UA-cam videos very well. Lag is very dependent on the car system that is plugged into and you’ll find if it lags on one it will lag on the other. It’s just how the car system is working with the box in general. So if you want to save some money, I would go for the carlinkit 660, or MMB 5.0 or ApplePie 996E or the Linkifun GT6 I reviewed recently on this channel. The 6490 will certainly have the grunt to do many other things and play games without breaking a sweat, but if you really are just watching video and listen to music then it doesn’t have to be the fastest box available.
So, in digging about, I THINK the difference may be that while the 6225 is nominally newer and faster than the 660, the Adreno 512 GPU actually has better marks across the board compared to the 610 if you look at the aggregate scoring on Notebookcheck. I'm not sure as to WHY, I know there are higher shading units, cache and memory bandwidth listed for the older GPU, so might very well be application specific. In either case, I think I'll be sending my 6225 box back for a 660 rather than bank on a software fix. ;)
That’s a wise choice. Also you may have to make sure the Adreno info is the mobile version and not the desktop/laptop version which could have more horses behind it. Still it doesn’t really explain the bug some 6225s are having and some that do not have the playback issue.
I also learnt very recently that the 6125 can playback video up to 4K 30 whereas the 6225 can only do up to 1080 60. I have downloaded some samples to test this in my future adapter tests.
Wow these boxes are still using the floating dot? My 3 yr old box isn't much different... been waiting for a reason to upgrade, but they just don't want my money I guess.
Haha yes still going strong. They don’t spend much resources on the software side of things, unfortunately.
@@CarPlayLifedo you know if there is a way to get the home and back buttons back?
You can disable the floating button, and use back control on your steering if you have one to get back. If you want an upgrade go with Apple Pie rocket.
@@Vanessa-dk6bj I have been looking at the Applepie Rocket. My hold up is the 5G network compatibility. I am in the US and keep seeing conflicting info if it works here or not. I can't find a video that states or demonstrates this working in the US.
Hi mate I got an otto cast cartv mate pro adaptor. It has LAG! look like its going at 30fos, a bit like a slideshow. is this normal for the HDMI conversion adapters?
I got a carlinkit one but it won't work with my Mercedes EQS. I tried upgrading software but it won't let me. says 'retry' on the page to update it.
what's the best box you've tasted? Is the SDM 660 the best option/shout or are there better options?
These hdmi to CarPlay adapters are pretty new so I still think they are figuring it out. 30fps sounds about right, but slide show certainly doesn’t. The CarlinKit is really picky with what car system it can work with and upgrading them is pretty useless.
There plenty of Ai boxes out there. The best fastest chip is the QC6490. Then QC6225, then QC660 then QC6125. Anything less than this you’ll want to avoid. The MMB 5.0 packs the 6225 as does the ApplePie AI 996E. You might notice in this video the ApplePie has a very high DPI setting which can make some apps appear very small but also be better for navigation in some apps. Something I might touch on in a future video.
Hope this helps
It is interesting that you mentioned this. I too have recently purchased a carmate pro. The C4 carplay/AA model. Using a firestick, the framerate seems to go at 25fps. Duplicate and drop frames. Firmware has been updated as well. Very disappointed in the C4. I want to try the carlinkit version but am afraid the results will be the same. I am using a 2023 Genesis G80
@@CarPlayLife Thanks. Sure, it's about 24-25FPS. not a slideshow but for a video game, in my opinion not playable! for something like Mario Kart.
Yeah it won’t be good for Mario kart 😂
I rented a car yesterday that experienced the same video lag and audio problem. Never had the problem with my car and I am using a box with the 6125 inside. I am going to try it again inside my car to see if it happens again. I don't know if it was a car compatibility problem or something software-wise that affected my box yesterday.
the lag in audio sync can be very car system-dependent. My VW Golf had some varying levels of lag, and in my newer Born system, I don't experience as much lag in some of the boxes I've tested (aside from the AI Boxes with the issues reported in this video). I'll need to revisit the CarlinKit 6125 to see if it is a common issue with this family of chipsets, but as I pointed out in the video, some other brands don't have this trouble with the same chipset. Very odd behaviour. 🤔
Why is there no pinch to zoom on google maps?
It’s mostly down to how both CP & AA works on these boxes. It’s done through software layer via an App on the Android platform of the box than being done on chip through a dedicated adapter or native on a car display. Only then does pinch and zoom work on Android Auto.
@ so you’re saying as long as im using an iphone i can never get the pinch to zoom?
If we’re talking CarPlay, Carplay doesn’t support pinch and zoom. The closest way you can do at least in Apple maps is to double tap the screen and on the second tap hold and swipe up and down to zoom in and out
Are there any of these boxes with google tv built in with out any other adaptors needed?
That would be great on an Ai box but I can’t see them doing it. I’m not sure if you have to licence each box to have androidTV on them, and that would cut into their chunky profits :)
Can I use this device to connect my Android phone to my Apple Carplay screen? (my car supports Apple car play only)
Yes that’s possible with this adapter. You can also try CarlinKit 4.0 wireless adapter for just wireless Android auto
@CarPlayLife thanks for feedback 👍
Thanks for the comparison.
Even though the 6225 was recommended, I went with the 660 because of the USB port.
I drive an Audi -tron. Everything works fine, no lag in audio or video, good gaming.
Only thing I cant get to work is Android Auto.
The T-UHD says in my menu system that I am connected through Carplay (Even though my phone is a Samsung S21 Ultra android)
When I switch the box to android auto ( Blue led light), it shows up as "Android Auto-Google Pixel". But when I try to connect to it says: " Connection could not be established. Please ensure that you have selected a device, thats is compatible with Audi Smart phone interface"
So I continue to use it in apple carplaymode (green led light)
I dont notice a difference.
Is there a difference at all when connecting through Apple carplay, instead of android auto?
Some apps I love using:
Retro Arch / Security cameras Reolink / Doorbel / IPTV/ Smarthome system.
The TUHD is now the focal point in my car!
You lucked out there with the 660. Phew! ☺️
It doesn’t make much difference between running it on CP or AA. In my test here ua-cam.com/video/YTHFJZVPYDo/v-deo.htmlsi=oYsSCR8G_O4nhx6V I found CP was slightly faster than running it on AA platform.