This case just reassures me to listen to my gut, and if something feels off, it's ok to not follow through. Lindsey was so worried about the whole thing for a reason. So heartbreaking.
I wouldn't call it amateurish. They had a premeditated plan, committed the crime and fled within 15 minutes, left no evidence or witnesses and it's still unsolved.
@@ma2967Yes. And it seems like the boyfriend did everything he could to avoid actually being there with her. Almost like he wanted to make sure she was alone.
@@cassie1264He also made SURE his friend was with him at the time, even though they weren’t supposed to meet up until later that evening. Jason drove around almost aimlessly, and I think he pretended to not know the address on purpose. He asked, what? Two or three people where this house was? Totally sus.
Agreed, they even had a phone purchased prior. Seems like it was definitely planned out well enough for it to still be unsolved. It seems like it was committed by someone personal, either they hired someone, or planned in advance to follow through themselves
Lindsay's dad needs to get a private investigator to look deeper into Jason, his mum and the business. I believe he hired a hitman for her murder, he conveniently left late, had a friend/alibi, couldn't find the house and didn't go in with her as an associate. Gave them enough time inside, parked behind bushes so they "couldn't see" them escape. A burner phone and fake accent, a referred client she cant get a hold of. It was a planned, personal attack. Rip Lindsay
He tried everything but police wouldn't release the files because they say it's an active investigation. This is the main reason why police is not closing this case. Once the case is closed her father has a right to see all the case files and they won't let it happen.
My theory is it was boyfriend's mom or family... they seem really involved in her relationship. She was ready to leave him until they went to spend time with his family, where they probably convinced her to stay with him. It seems very much like a "don't hurt my baby" sort of situation, and he conveniently parks where they can't see the house during the time they were leaving the house. The whole situation is shady
I also agree. The no messages in the fortnite prior to or from Lindsay is very suspicious to me. A boyfriend could easily delete all her messages. He encouraged the viewing even though she felt uneasy about it. He was conveniently late, with a witness, and he was lost and made alibi confirming phone calls for directions.
Boyfriend showed up late despite her expressing numerous times how nervous she was, didn't see another vehicle in the driveway although he saw the couple in the house and not his girlfriend, and then took 35 minutes to investigate further?! Involved or not, thats some questionable behavior.
He definitely did that on purpose, especially with him knowing how worried she was about the meeting. I don’t buy his act whatsoever, I think he hired someone to do the job for him :(
Hey Bella, I usually don't comment but this one got me too. I seriously think it was someone close to her (if not her bf). My reasons: 1, everyone worked in real estate, they know buying and moving into a house cannot be completed in 3 days. You need at least 2 weeks to take care of the legal end. 2. The client vetting is seriously sketchy. You realtor makes a file for you, with your name and information... not to mention they need to verify if you can even afford to purchase a home before showing a house to you. A client that wants to purchase a $1 million home in a weekend would need to access to a lot of cash. I would think an entire family of real estate agents would know this.... so the fact that him (the bf), the brother and mom who worked in the same office made this seem normal is odd behavior. 3. Who is this client that recommended them and if she called them (with no answer) was the client spoken to by police? Because if they referenced an actual client of hers how did the murderers get the client's name?! 4. The chat history being deleted is also odd... why would the murderers even care or be able to access her social media accounts (like how did they get her account information)? That all seems like behavior of someone who knows her not a random drug enforcer. I don't think the police looked at the bf's family close enough.
I am also a realtor and I find it insane that him being experienced would let her do that alone. The fact that he ran late and wasn’t in any rush knowing her concerns just doesn’t sit right with me.
I thought murder for hire as well and he used his friend as an alibi. I also agree with the statement of letting her go alone. He didn't have to introduce himself as her bf, realtors from one agency co-list/work together all the time. It would not have been strange for him to attend the showing with her.
Ever since I first heard this case, I fully believe the boyfriend hired someone to do this. He created the perfect alibi; almost too perfect. He was on camera in another location, with another person, he didn’t go into the house when she didn’t answer her phone and he didn’t see another vehicle, so that would be weird; like wouldn’t you wonder how the couple arrived? I’m convinced he did it and planned it so well that he got away with it.
@@chickensauce85maybe they had a rocky or toxic relationship. my friend stayed in a relationship that everyone thought was perfect and turned out to be an abusive one, not everything is as it seems… who actually knows
i mean how many times have we heard this same story, he was jealous, he was controlling & insecure, she wanted to leave you never know whats actually happening behind closed doors. its always the bf
You were very kind to her current boyfriend and his family. We live near the area, and that family has been involved in many incidents of questionable intergritity. You should interview her dad, Jeff. He does a walk in her honour yearly. Love ya from 🇨🇦
Let’s not forget that the murderer had her cell number and named a prior client of Lyndsey’s. Only the boyfriend would have been able to provide this info. I believe he meticulously planned this murder and hired someone to kill her.
Lindsey is from my hometown and I remember when this case happened… her father is still searching avidly for answers and he has done amazing work advocating for his daughter. I’m so glad this case is making it around the world. Someone knows something. Someone knows these people. Someone has seen that dress.
Exactly what I was thinking. They planned it especially with the buying a prepaid phone and not activating it until later; closer to murder date. They still haven’t been caught. They knew how to murder and sadly as of now get away with it. I pray her and her family get closure❤
I think it's more in the perspective of how they carried out the murder. For all the premeditation behind it, and how fast they escaped the crime scene, it was all very calculated - so why would they not carry out a less intense, more subtle murder? What was the reasoning for such a brutal murder if everything else was so calculated? I think that's what Bella means
Agreed. The actual method of murder itself was sloppy, it everything around it was meticulous and well planned. Burner phone, giving reason why they need to meet on the day and at the house, having access to names of previous clients, leaving in a car nobody saw. I honestly think it’s very weird the police even said it was amateurish.
@@jessmcleod3823 bc it was both personal AND well planned and executed. Amateur is the wrong word used here. Sloppy but no prints or dna evidence was left?
I know the police have said this is a very amateur murder that doesnt seem like it would be a hit or a hired murder plot - but they did a fairly good job of it considering no one has even an inkling of what happened. Seems like they did a quite a professional job to me!
@@susivarga7303 of course but usually amateur killers or crimes of passion leave behind at least some evidence , the set up and premeditation of it all doesnt seem very amateur at all . at the very least it doesn't seem like it's the first time this person has killed , it feels cold and calculated
As a realtor I can say that meeting strangers at a house is a big no no. All realtors and experienced realtors know this. I’m surprised her boyfriend and boyfriends mom didn’t discourage her from meeting them at the house or at least recommended that she ask for a preapproval which would verify they are serious buyers. Someone in the office was involved. Someone who knew she wasn’t experienced and didn’t advice her well. It was a personal attack so it would make sense.
I always thought that realtors r really brave to just meet a bunch of strange people at open houses! How do u guys screen properly? And what precautions do u take for safety?
My gut tells me Jason is involved. Firstly, Lindsay had been looking at breaking up with him. Secondly, the woman on the phone had Lindsay's mobile number, why would she call the house and how would she have the number? I think Jason lied. If there was a call at that time, I think it was for him. Third, Jason did not leave to meet Lindsay until the time he was supposed to be there and his GPS was conveniently not working. Fourth, He arrives and shines his lights in the house, like a signal. Then parks far enough away not to hear screams. Why not park across the road. The veiwer shouldn't know who he is and therefore should take no notice of two guys sitting in a vehicle talking. Fifth, He conveniently had a mate along to verify his version of events. This commonly happens when people are somehow involved in the death of their partner. I also struggle to believe he could get the lock box to open. As he works in real estate, I don't believe he couldn't open the lock box. I think he deliberately messed up the code. I am wondering if he was seeing someone and they hired a hitman or a friend to get rid of Lindsay. The woman could have been their and set everything up, just to put Lindsay at ease.Women are more likely to trust a woman or a couple than just a man on his own.
@@Amari37-x1o Perhaps he deleted messages where she confided in her friends/family members about concerns regarding his potential for abusive behavior or her fear of him doing something harmful idk
I don’t understand? She told multiple people she felt something was not right yet no one went with her? Sometimes I am just shocked at the stupidity of the human race. He didn’t see her but waited in his car just wow like these murders make me so angry. Preventable that’s what this could have been %100
Same here, I was actually surprised at how infuriated I became thinking about this dude taking his grand old time. Feel like I haven't been this angry in months
She trusted her boyfriend and I think he set her up. There's no reason for him to not go with her. Realtors work together all the time, she could have easily introduced him as a colleague. The only theory that makes any bit of sense is that her boyfriend and his family set this up and then closed ranks to protect each other.
Someone just wanted her dead and it was a hit. Suspicion must fall on the boyfriend. Very suspicious that he did not arrive by 530 when she was worried about these people. Then he wasted more time before trying to go in. Also, he took Someone with him which you might take to have a witness that you weren't involved.
Him being so late and having such a solid alibi with his friend and the CCTV could have been very careful set up. I know its been said it was too amateur to be a hired Murder but i keep thinking that it wasn't that amateur considering to this day they have absolutely no leads and no idea really what happened. When you consider that it does seem quite professional.
@@selena9310 its so easy to imagine how he could be involved in it!! This case is crazy but I feel like if you take away the most crazy stuff and just focus on what seems logical, it seems like it could be easy to understand. It's crazy!!
I haven't finished this video, yet, so you may give updated info, but I know the case well and going by what I've known.. I still believe the boyfriend and his mother set this up. It's so sad; she took every necessary precaution and the ones she trusted (IMO) set her up. They knew the listing, they knew her, they knew to give the name of an unreachable client as a reference name, etc. The bf and the mom are the only ones that would have known all of that information. Which is also why he was unavailable to her right as she went in with them..he knew what was to take place. I'm praying Lindsay and her family get justice.
@@Dollyspeaks211 Jason’s mother, and all the times she blatantly insulted Lindsay, said she wasn’t good enough for Jason, thought Lindsay was trash. Who was the “witness”? Jason. He wasn’t there to help, he was there to make sure it was done.
I agree. I've followed this case for years and it doesn't make sense for it to be anyone other than the bf and his mom. The mom had such connections with the local police that it's made the investigation so frustrating to follow. Lindsey knew too much and whatever she had overheard that spooked her so much and had her questioning her relationship and everything else made her a target and a liability that the mom had to get rid of. I just wish she had told her dad or someone what she had heard. I just hope that someday Lindsey gets justice and her dad gets answers.
God....Lindsay was soo damn careful and did everything to stay safe.....talked about her suspisions to her bf, father, co-workers, tried to verify the refrence those clients mentioned, got database checked for the client's info, told her bf to be there and confirmed multiple times if he was coming and he did come but she still ended up getting murdred in such horrific way! RIP Lindsay!
No he didn't. He showed up after he was sure she was already dead. It makes me so mad. He left late after she reminded him over and over to be on time and he didn't leave the bar until it was time for the showing and wasnt on the way until she confirmed she was already there. She died before he was even otw bc of his GPS supposedly. He is clearly directly involved and sadly the person she trusted to protect her.
The fact that she ended the phone call with her bf at 5:30pm saying that the viewers had just arrived & she had to go, yet he said at 5:45pm when he drove past it looked like they were just taking off their shoes to tour the place is suspicious to me… Why would it take 15 mins to even get into the house? 🤔 if he wasn’t involved this definitely should’ve been a red flag for him
Agreed. Also I see the point Bella makes where she said that Lindsay and her bf didn’t want him to be too involved in the viewing but I wonder if Lindsay actually said out her mouth that she didn’t want him in the house or near the house? It seemed like she really wanted him to be there ie. In the house, outside the house. I just don’t see the point in him arriving late and then he allegedly thought they were just getting into the house why would the first thought be to drive away from the house all the way down the cul da sac where it seems he couldn’t even see the house?? If anything wouldn’t he text or call her to let her know he is there and see if she wants him to come in or even just park outside the house where he can at least see.
I think when the couple was heading to the front door they may have been trying to flee the scene not expecting for people to be waiting out front and had to come up with a different exit strategy.
This case literally happened right down the road from where I live it’s crazy! The house is for sale again and I feel super bad for whichever agent is listing it. Must be super scary
also who is going to buy that house? i would be creeped out to even go inside a house with such a history, let alone stay there for the night or normally live there.. what would you use the room in question for? i really cannot imagine it..
@bella your misinformed…Lindsay’s dad did a interview a couple years ago, and a big suspect was Jason’s mother. He mentioned that she told him that she saw something wrong but wouldn’t tell him what it was…. He basically insinuated that the family might be involved in organized crime and a risk of her going to the cops might be the reason she had a hit on her…kinda makes the most sense, probably using the real estate company to wash big money. And yeah, make it messy so it doesn’t look like a professional hit. Also knives are quieter than guns in a populated neighbourhood.
My thoughts exactly. I don't know what she knew, but clearly, they weren't happy, especially if they thought the relationship was going south. It's better to get rid of all the loose ends before Lindsey started talking. JMO
I can’t believe this has never been solved. The people that killed her knew her. Someone in her life is to blame. I don’t know if I trust the boyfriend
I saw this case years ago, and the boyfriend was a suspect. She had told her father that she was breaking off the the engagement with her boyfriend, because things were really bad, I believe he had something to do with it. Conveniently he arrived late, knowing how concerned she was, very suspicious, he could have hired someone. I don't believe it had anything to do with drugs.
He had money. He definitely could have paid someone to do it. He knew how very worried she was about the viewing…showing up so late is definitely sketchy as hell.
100% believe boyfriend planned it and hired those people to execute. boyfriend had an alibi, his friend. i can almost promise you that she was excited about this HUGE potential sale and Jason told her to be worried, which made her worried in the first place. he grabbed her once he saw her dead, strategically so if there was any DNA then it could be explained. he made her scared about the situation and purposely got there late. he drove around to make it not look “sketchy” but I bet you it was to show police he was in his car the whole time. a caring bf would sit in the driveway the entire time if he knew his significant other was scared for their life and meeting up with strangers.
what would be the motive though? I totally agree with you that his actions are suspicious.. but I feel like having a troubled relationship is not reason enough to hire a hit. they weren’t even married.
Hey Bella, not to be the stick in the mud, and say that your videos are anything less than stellar, because that’s just not true. But I will say with this one I do feel like there’s quite a bit of context missing on why people suspect Jason and his mom. If you dive quite a bit deeper and listen to things by Sheila Wysocki and Menzies dad, you will see that there is a lot more reasons behind why they think Jason is involved. And that Shirley is definitely somehow wrapped up into this. There’s so many things that are missing from this, which I understand because it’s a 30 minute wrapup of the story. But if you deep dive and get into the nitty-gritty of everything that was going on in their lives at the time between Lindsay Shirley , Jason, Lindsey‘s dad. Matt. There’s just a lot. And I think that missing that context, kind of leads people to think that it’s not possible for Jason to be involved, because it was just kind of iced over as oh he left the car place at 5:30 and then he went in at six and found her dead. Little things like he ran directly to where she was. How did he know where she was? How did he know she was upstairs? Also, the fact that Shirley showed up at the crime scene in less than 10 minutes. How? How did she know? How did she get there? So fast? I’m not saying that Jason killed her. Clearly he didn’t. But that doesn’t mean he and his mother weren’t involved in it. It’s very clear that this was a hit. Not necessarily a personal hit like from a hitman, but it definitely was a Target attack for Lindsey. Somebody really wanted her dead and I don’t see very many people that had anything to gain from that besides, her boyfriends mom perhaps ??
I don't think the murder was amateurish at all - there is no suspect, they got away, no apparent DNA or other evidence left behind. It was brutal and personal, but the phone was bought ahead of time and never used again, there was planning, it was not heat of passion in any way. Her missing messages are key, someone had access and wanted some information to disappear. It is too sad that she didn't take up co- workers on their offers to go with her, and even more tragic that Jason did not get there when he was supposed to.
Exactly, it may LOOK amateurish but the fact there is absolutely no evidence, sniffer dogs couldn’t pick up anyones scent and no one close to Lindsay having an obvious motive I fully believe it was a professional job by someone she didn’t know. It was just made to look like an emotional murder. Also, if it was someone she knew, surely she would’ve recognised them when they came to look at the house and if that was the case, surely that would raise her suspicions and she wouldn’t have gone into the house with them? Why would they go under the guise of being a random couple referred to her by someone from way back when?
Just wanted to say I went checking for more and there is a petition in her dads website for her (I’ll comment it under this comment) for everyone to sign and seek justice for her, they’re so so close to the goal like 200 signatures left. Being a true crime watcher comes with some responsibility and if only 200 of all the people that watch this video takes the time to sign it we can really help her and her dad get justice❤
I am so glad that you covered this case. This happened in my hometown, and it truly is haunting for everyone that this isn’t solved. She truly deserves justice.
Brilliant detective skills. Let’s just base the guilt of a person on how their eyes look. Right? Let’s just accuse a person of murder based on their facial features because that isn’t any sorts of fucked up. I’m sorry, but comments like this are why people don’t take this community seriously. It’s stupid and dangerous to say things like this. The True Crime community is so toxic the way you guys just pounce on someone, fully willing to ruin their lives based on absolute garbage reasoning.
Thanks for covering this case Bella! A youtuber who has long since deleted her channel posted this case years ago and I’ve always been so curious as to why more people don’t cover this one. It’s so bizarre.
@@audreyjarvie8570I’m glad someone else remembers! I’m a little bummed Bella didn’t cover the mom but to be fair that theory is almost entirely speculation but it makes more sense than the 2 official theories IMO.
My intuition says that the bf is involved somehow, and that the only reason he is seen in the CCTV is because he simply wanted an alibi. Poor girl and her family😢
Your true crime videos were the first that I watched many many years back. And they still are my favorite! I remember you covering the case of the Beaumont children as if it was yesterday! I love you Bella! Thank you for your videos! ❤❤❤
Hello Bella glad to see another case have been missing you. You are 1 of my favorite channels. I love how you spread knowledge about all your cases. Heart❤
It still feels like the boyfriend. He knows how viewings work and how long they take, and unless he is chronically late to everything, and just generally blows her off, he could have deliberately delayed leaving so he would have an alibi. Parking around the corner and where you can't see anything is also weird. Why wouldn't you wait out front? Big house like that has a lot of street parking out front. The whole thing with him is super weird. They were wealthy so he could have paid someone to do it. Anyone who kills people for money are psychopaths so the frenzy wouldn't surprise me, especially if they weren't professionals and just someone he found who would be willing.
I’m unsure if Jason knew but I’d be very interested to hear the family dynamics between Jason’s mom and how they felt about Lindsay and their relationship. I could see an overbearing mother “taking care of a problem” for her son. Especially if it came to business and her knowing something or them not wanting her working with them anymore.
I think Jason hired it, honestly. Whoever killed Lindsay got her personal phone number from somewhere. Her personal messages were then accessed & deleted afterward. Jason repeatedly messed up on getting to the house Lindsay was showing that evening, and didnt even leave on time. He encouraged her to go despite her gut feelings, only take him for protection, didnt go to the house for 35 minutes, & then never actually hurried into the house. He asked people if he should break the window but didnt, asked for the passcode to the door which didnt work, etc.... then after calling his brother + the police: he realizes the back doors are open? Goodbye
This reassures a huge lesson on listening to your gut man you rather be safe than sorry 🥺 So sad Update: maybe his wealthy family didn’t want him with her and tried to get rid of her? Didn’t his mom work there also?
Hey Bella! I love your videos and how you give great background info and create a vivid description of each case. As always, this case shocked me so much. Unsolved cases are somehow way scarier to me than solved ones because the fact that the killer is still out there is horribly frightening. I wonder if you've covered the Parker-Hulme case in New Zealand? I read about it online recently and it shook me to my core. I would love to see your take on it. You rock and lots of love from India!😄
You are my favorite ! Just found you this week. Your delivery of the stories is so easy to follow. You have a wonderful way about you. Keep up the good work!
I just watched the movie Reptile or Reptiles and it's based on this murder. I literally open youtube to search more about it and your video was on my home screen. Just sharing the coincidence hehe I love your content
Poor girl, I feel so bad. People in careers where you have to meet people alone in strange or new places should hire private security or have safety alarms. I know it can be pricey but nothing is more important than safety. And even then, tell multiple people your plans & when they should hear from you.
I agree. I think a clue that it is probably a hired hit job is that the burner phone was purchased months before. I suspect whoever purchased the burner phone probably kept several on hand; it was a regular thing to just grab a burner phone from a stash and use it for a job.
The partner being late is so frustrating, just leaves so many theories up in the air, but also I think incriminates him, if he was soo concerned then it was surely not that hard to just be on time. Was there any info on the relationship with his brother, no jealousy etc. Also who was the girl the bf was pictured with 👀 I really hope this one (and all of them) get solved 🤞🏽
I 100% think the boyfriend was involved. Very convenient that he waited so long to go to her showing he was supposed to go to. I think he hired someone OR her ex hired someone.
I agree, the more I dove into this case the more the boyfriends family seems sus. There’s so many little connections that make this case so much crazier.
Holy shit! I've been WAITING for someone to cover this case! Im from Victoria and it's truly so absolutely insane that this happened. Thank you for sharing her story. May she rest in peace 🫶🏽✨
I'm so glad you covered this case! I can't explain why, other than Lindsey is around my age and her and her friends reminded me of my friends, but this case has stuck with me for years. I always come back to it and look for updates or for new interviews/podcasts with her dad. Her dad's determination to find justice for Lindsey is another reason why this case stays with me. She had her whole life in front of her and to walk into work and never walk out is just gut wrenching. To me, this had to be someone close to her and most likely related to her boyfriend's family. Her boyfriend was so weird the whole time, his story and actions just are too convenient and the fact he wasn't there says a ton. It almost reminds me of the Adelson family in the Dan Markel case where the entire family was involved and all covering for each other. The connections the family had make finding the truth so frustrating and all I can hope is someday Lindsey gets justice and her dad gets answers. 😢
I read that his mother set this up. The mother worked in real estate. The same company. She did not like her. I heard Lindsay and the mother had a lot of issues together. There was another channel that went through some very extensive details.
Just not liking her and having issues wouldn't be a motive for murder that her son was also involved with. Just break up, problem solved. There had to be more to it involving some wrongdoing that Lindsay found out about.
I wonder if the mother was up to something dodgy and Lindsay knew about it so she wanted her eliminated? Simply not liking her son's current girlfriend would be a thin motive for murder so I wonder if through the business Lindsay knew more than she was supposed to know.
Lindsay‘s father recently posted on Facebook about how her ex-boyfriend and his mother are suing him or something like that. I personally think they’re guilty as hell.
This case is local to me, still so wild. Hoping one day it’s solved. I recently watched the movie Reptile and I could have SWORN elements of the movie were taken right from this very case
Respectfully, there’s quite a lot of information missing from this video. If someone who knew nothing about this case watched this video, they could easily write off the boyfriend’s movements around/during the murder as just unfortunate. However, there are a lot more compelling reasons as to why many people believe the boyfriend (AND his family) could have been involved - and I wish that was all discussed in this video because it’s important to the case and people need to know.
As someone who's been in an abusive relationship with a very smart person who knows how to lie and cover their tracts very well, I 100% believe this was the bf. Like it couldn't be more obvious. If he really loved her as much as he said he did, he would have been there on time if not early. He clearly knew what he was doing. Any random person would have no reason to delete her messages. Really the only person who would be able to delete her messages would be the person she was sharing a laptop with. I think he probably knew these people very well so that's why they were willing to help him.
Lindsay was encouraged by Jason to show the home. He assured her he would be there. Jason's mother, a long-time realtor, vetts all her potential clients. Jason in the industry knows the process to qualify anyone, and this was his practice. So we have one family who encourages a young new realtor to bypass all the precautions they would take themselves. There is no mystery......money laundering/mortgage fraud, I believe Lindsay saw something. What colleague,BF, husband would promise to be at the property, then not show up? Keep up the good work❤
Omg this happened right by the house I grew up in! A block from my childhood home. I remember my mom and I having to detour because of the police & it being blocked off. It was a little scary for me there when I found out what happened, thank you for covering her story ❤ this case still bothers me to this day, I’ll never forget it 😢
Hey Bella! Omg I’ve been following you for years , and then I just hear Calgary Alberta , that’s where I live !!! So shocking but cool to hear you talk about a case from where I live !!!
What pisses me off is the bf was late after she TOLD him she felt anxious to meet this mysterious couple. (If he wasn’t involved) he should have shown up early or right on time to go in the house with her considering they spoke about this particular showing beforehand. Things could’ve went differently if he kept his word.
I am so glad you did this case. I started listening to it on a channel once and never finished so I never found out what happened. I think about it all of the time, but I had no idea what it was called.
I would be very interested to have spoken with workers at the ferries around that time. I’m sure ferry workers would have definitely seen these suspects at some point while they were making their way from Vancouver to Victoria.
It was definitely targeted. I.feel like someone benefitted from this. I don't trust Jason and his friend at all. I don't even trust his mother Shirley.
definitely the bf/bf’s family for me. i don’t think it was due to something as simple as relationship issues though. i think she must’ve known something she wasn’t supposed to know (potentially came out on the family trip). or maybe she had some sort of shared ownership over something that the bf didn’t want to split and he knew she was going to leave her some time.
how was her boyfriend SO late😭😭 im actually shocked. she was so scared and worried, he had no reason to leave where he was at the time he was supposed to be there, and had no reason not having the address and route prior. im actually BAFFLED
If Lindsay was an informant, LE wouldn’t confirm it if there was an ongoing investigation. Considering she was repeatedly reaching out to former associates who were reportedly involved in illegal activity, I think Lindsay may very well have been an informant.
But Bella, really think you would be a great investigator about The Vatican Girl, a girl that went missing over 30 years ago(I believe) & the cold case was just reopened too. Would love to hear your thoughts on the sad, strange, very conspiracy theory-hype case. I say this all with respect, I just want your take on the famous case, it’s so messed up Bella. Missed you.
The police had so much information with this case and it is still unsolved. I feel like this was carried through with a professional, especially with the phone previously purchased. Hired by someone that was close to her. or either planned out in advanced and followed through by someone close to her. How did they get her number? And how did they know a real name of someone that was a previous client?. This also ties in with the theory that the mum or boyfriend was involved. As much as I don’t want to believe it’s the boyfriend because he seems so genuine, someone else stated how coincidental it was for his map to not work and him to have to go get his friend, while she was literally being murdered.
People don't only assume Jason for those reasons though. I obviously don't believe he was that actual murderer however, Lindsay worked with his mother - which could explain how the killers managed to convince Lindsay that one of her clients (who was conveniently out of town at the time) was the one who gave them her personal number. In addition, Jason ran up the stairs immediately after getting inside as if he knew he would find her there. Besides being late, him being with a friend (a witness that would side with him), not having his GPS working that day, and moving his car so far away from where he was originally parked to a location where he could not see at all - could easily signify he only put on the lights as a signal and then moved the car to let the killers leave without his friend witnessing. It doesn't make much sense based on the description of the killers, that Lindsay knew them. It doesn't sound like they did that much to hide their identities. Otherwise, I'm sure she would have confronted them & made atleast some commotion for them lying about who they are? Meaning that she most likely was set up by hitmen. It could be speculated that she was killed with a knife because that was requested by the person who set her up? To make her suffer more? Also, the murder is not that amateur. The killers bought a phone months before ever even calling Lindsay for the first time, appears they paid for it with cash, they left no kind of evidence behind including never using the phone again, not even the car they used to get away was spotted... them killing her with a knife could simply mean it was requested or they wanted the "thrill". Doesn't necessarily mean they didn't think it through.
I've never been so sure about an unsolved murder before but this was 100% a hit man. Knowing that, they were then most likely hired by the boyfriend/family. He also had access to her Facebook and could've deleted those messages.
the hardest to investigate crimes are those committed by someone who has absolutely no connection to the victim, and it’s so scary. if they leave no evidence, it’s nearly impossible to catch them.
You said they know the mysterious woman used a burner phone can they not go back and use surveillance cameras to see who purchased the phone cause they are obviously involved
Oh man it seems very strange that Jason was so late leaving to be there for Lindsay if she was so worried about being there alone. He is late leaving then his nav system doesn’t work and doesn’t have the address until he is already late leaving. 35 min is a long time for someone to be killed. If he is innocent he did a really bad job of being there to protect her (murderers don’t wait for someone to be 15 min late) or maybe it was on purpose. Even if he didn’t do it he could have been connected to him. I don’t understand how he could have protected her if something happened by being down the street without being able to see anything?
Thank you for covering. I live in BC and I remember when this happened. Sometimes you never find out the conclusion so thank you for sharing her story.
Just a guess but maybe she didn’t take her earring collection with her when moving to London, I doubt they would be a priority when moving so far with limited luggage space?
@@xocreme Care to elaborate. You can’t be referring to this video because it was a woman that died not a girl. Also, someone dies in almost 100% of her videos and that didn’t stop her from wearing the unique earrings before.
@@marlaacoleeIt’s really weird to shame someone for asking a question about something that used to be standard in videos. You could make an argument that Bella talking about people’s deaths and making money off of it is insensitive too.
@@marlaacolee 🤨... with that logic, it could also be seen as a little insensitive to be speaking about if her style changed or not. Very contradictory comment you made. It's the fact you shamed someone for asking a question about something non-related (in your opinion) on a true crime video, while also answering their question...??! Hope you saved some of that shame to pass onto yourself, too!
She saw something she shouldn’t have, she told her dad. However,she didn’t tell him what is was. I think she saw something at her job, something to do with the Zailo’s. So they hired someone to get rid of Lindsay. So heartbreaking. Praying for Jeff to get answers soon, to find out what happened to his daughter. Justice for Lindsay.❤️
Could it be the wife of one of the individuals in the drug bust? The intensity of the murder would align with the anger of a wife who has just found out her husband is to be sent away in prison for years? As you said they want to point fingers and perhaps believe it is Lindsay who snitched?
As someone from Victoria, in my opinion this was a hired hit on Lindsay. Someone who kills for a living came over here from Vancouver after somebody else paid him for it
I remember watching a video on this case years ago, and there was a theory that her boyfriends mom had something to do with it. I’m not sure why though
This case just reassures me to listen to my gut, and if something feels off, it's ok to not follow through. Lindsey was so worried about the whole thing for a reason. So heartbreaking.
Facts! 😭
*Lindsay
Your intuition is ALWAYS right, it’s so sad that she knew something was wrong and it still ended this way :(
no fr !!!
I wouldn't call it amateurish. They had a premeditated plan, committed the crime and fled within 15 minutes, left no evidence or witnesses and it's still unsolved.
Yeah and weirdly enough it feels to me like they knew she would be alone. Even though she made plans not to be.
@@ma2967Yes. And it seems like the boyfriend did everything he could to avoid actually being there with her. Almost like he wanted to make sure she was alone.
@@cassie1264He also made SURE his friend was with him at the time, even though they weren’t supposed to meet up until later that evening. Jason drove around almost aimlessly, and I think he pretended to not know the address on purpose. He asked, what? Two or three people where this house was? Totally sus.
Yes and they could have done multiple stab wounds to throw off detectives
Agreed, they even had a phone purchased prior. Seems like it was definitely planned out well enough for it to still be unsolved. It seems like it was committed by someone personal, either they hired someone, or planned in advance to follow through themselves
Lindsay's dad needs to get a private investigator to look deeper into Jason, his mum and the business. I believe he hired a hitman for her murder, he conveniently left late, had a friend/alibi, couldn't find the house and didn't go in with her as an associate. Gave them enough time inside, parked behind bushes so they "couldn't see" them escape. A burner phone and fake accent, a referred client she cant get a hold of. It was a planned, personal attack. Rip Lindsay
He tried everything but police wouldn't release the files because they say it's an active investigation. This is the main reason why police is not closing this case. Once the case is closed her father has a right to see all the case files and they won't let it happen.
True! And didnt he also perform CPR.. giving him the perfect opportunity and excuse for his DNA being all over the scene.
My theory is it was boyfriend's mom or family... they seem really involved in her relationship. She was ready to leave him until they went to spend time with his family, where they probably convinced her to stay with him. It seems very much like a "don't hurt my baby" sort of situation, and he conveniently parks where they can't see the house during the time they were leaving the house. The whole situation is shady
I agree ....
I also agree. The no messages in the fortnite prior to or from Lindsay is very suspicious to me. A boyfriend could easily delete all her messages.
He encouraged the viewing even though she felt uneasy about it.
He was conveniently late, with a witness, and he was lost and made alibi confirming phone calls for directions.
Boyfriend showed up late despite her expressing numerous times how nervous she was, didn't see another vehicle in the driveway although he saw the couple in the house and not his girlfriend, and then took 35 minutes to investigate further?! Involved or not, thats some questionable behavior.
And he took his friend with him for a solid alibi
Yeah, her bf was sh** for showing up late. Sounds like he could potentially involved.
but he was very helpful with the investigation
Hind sight is always 20/20, isn't it.
He definitely did that on purpose, especially with him knowing how worried she was about the meeting. I don’t buy his act whatsoever, I think he hired someone to do the job for him :(
Hey Bella, I usually don't comment but this one got me too. I seriously think it was someone close to her (if not her bf). My reasons: 1, everyone worked in real estate, they know buying and moving into a house cannot be completed in 3 days. You need at least 2 weeks to take care of the legal end. 2. The client vetting is seriously sketchy. You realtor makes a file for you, with your name and information... not to mention they need to verify if you can even afford to purchase a home before showing a house to you. A client that wants to purchase a $1 million home in a weekend would need to access to a lot of cash. I would think an entire family of real estate agents would know this.... so the fact that him (the bf), the brother and mom who worked in the same office made this seem normal is odd behavior. 3. Who is this client that recommended them and if she called them (with no answer) was the client spoken to by police? Because if they referenced an actual client of hers how did the murderers get the client's name?! 4. The chat history being deleted is also odd... why would the murderers even care or be able to access her social media accounts (like how did they get her account information)? That all seems like behavior of someone who knows her not a random drug enforcer. I don't think the police looked at the bf's family close enough.
You laid this out well, and I 100% agree.
Very interesting, I thought of a crazy stalker or something but what you said fits better
I agree. I think it’s murder for hire and her bf is involved.
I am also a realtor and I find it insane that him being experienced would let her do that alone. The fact that he ran late and wasn’t in any rush knowing her concerns just doesn’t sit right with me.
I thought murder for hire as well and he used his friend as an alibi. I also agree with the statement of letting her go alone. He didn't have to introduce himself as her bf, realtors from one agency co-list/work together all the time. It would not have been strange for him to attend the showing with her.
Ever since I first heard this case, I fully believe the boyfriend hired someone to do this. He created the perfect alibi; almost too perfect. He was on camera in another location, with another person, he didn’t go into the house when she didn’t answer her phone and he didn’t see another vehicle, so that would be weird; like wouldn’t you wonder how the couple arrived? I’m convinced he did it and planned it so well that he got away with it.
Agreed
i agree, but what motive could he possibly have had?
@@chickensauce85maybe they had a rocky or toxic relationship. my friend stayed in a relationship that everyone thought was perfect and turned out to be an abusive one, not everything is as it seems… who actually knows
@@chickensauce85my thought but sometimes people have no motive people are just plan sick in the head
i mean how many times have we heard this same story, he was jealous, he was controlling & insecure, she wanted to leave you never know whats actually happening behind closed doors. its always the bf
You were very kind to her current boyfriend and his family. We live near the area, and that family has been involved in many incidents of questionable intergritity. You should interview her dad, Jeff. He does a walk in her honour yearly.
Love ya from 🇨🇦
Let’s not forget that the murderer had her cell number and named a prior client of Lyndsey’s. Only the boyfriend would have been able to provide this info. I believe he meticulously planned this murder and hired someone to kill her.
What are the people saying in the area so strange this has not been solved been following it for years
Lindsey is from my hometown and I remember when this case happened… her father is still searching avidly for answers and he has done amazing work advocating for his daughter. I’m so glad this case is making it around the world. Someone knows something. Someone knows these people. Someone has seen that dress.
*Lindsay
You said it’s an amateur murder … they literally got away with it with no sign of evidence, or nobody seeing them leave the house. That’s not amateur
Yes!!! This is what I've been saying and thinking!
Exactly what I was thinking. They planned it especially with the buying a prepaid phone and not activating it until later; closer to murder date. They still haven’t been caught. They knew how to murder and sadly as of now get away with it. I pray her and her family get closure❤
I think it's more in the perspective of how they carried out the murder. For all the premeditation behind it, and how fast they escaped the crime scene, it was all very calculated - so why would they not carry out a less intense, more subtle murder? What was the reasoning for such a brutal murder if everything else was so calculated? I think that's what Bella means
Agreed. The actual method of murder itself was sloppy, it everything around it was meticulous and well planned. Burner phone, giving reason why they need to meet on the day and at the house, having access to names of previous clients, leaving in a car nobody saw. I honestly think it’s very weird the police even said it was amateurish.
@@jessmcleod3823 bc it was both personal AND well planned and executed. Amateur is the wrong word used here. Sloppy but no prints or dna evidence was left?
It is so interesting how you can just have a "gut feeling" about a situation, I really hope this case is solved one day
I know the police have said this is a very amateur murder that doesnt seem like it would be a hit or a hired murder plot - but they did a fairly good job of it considering no one has even an inkling of what happened. Seems like they did a quite a professional job to me!
You know that not every single murder case gets solved, right?
@@susivarga7303 of course but usually amateur killers or crimes of passion leave behind at least some evidence , the set up and premeditation of it all doesnt seem very amateur at all . at the very least it doesn't seem like it's the first time this person has killed , it feels cold and calculated
@@susivarga7303 What she’s trying to say clearly went over your head beloved. 😅
Exactly 🙌🏽
@susivarga7303 oh my God - really?! My world has been rocked 😉
As a realtor I can say that meeting strangers at a house is a big no no. All realtors and experienced realtors know this. I’m surprised her boyfriend and boyfriends mom didn’t discourage her from meeting them at the house or at least recommended that she ask for a preapproval which would verify they are serious buyers. Someone in the office was involved. Someone who knew she wasn’t experienced and didn’t advice her well. It was a personal attack so it would make sense.
I always thought that realtors r really brave to just meet a bunch of strange people at open houses! How do u guys screen properly? And what precautions do u take for safety?
Especially with a $1million house. Definitely prequalifying would be standard. Mom & son don't look to good to me.
@@aali9778we knew our realator but even then we had an initial meeting at a public place with a mentor
@@aali9778thought that too
My gut tells me Jason is involved. Firstly, Lindsay had been looking at breaking up with him. Secondly, the woman on the phone had Lindsay's mobile number, why would she call the house and how would she have the number? I think Jason lied. If there was a call at that time, I think it was for him. Third, Jason did not leave to meet Lindsay until the time he was supposed to be there and his GPS was conveniently not working. Fourth, He arrives and shines his lights in the house, like a signal. Then parks far enough away not to hear screams. Why not park across the road. The veiwer shouldn't know who he is and therefore should take no notice of two guys sitting in a vehicle talking. Fifth, He conveniently had a mate along to verify his version of events. This commonly happens when people are somehow involved in the death of their partner. I also struggle to believe he could get the lock box to open. As he works in real estate, I don't believe he couldn't open the lock box. I think he deliberately messed up the code. I am wondering if he was seeing someone and they hired a hitman or a friend to get rid of Lindsay. The woman could have been their and set everything up, just to put Lindsay at ease.Women are more likely to trust a woman or a couple than just a man on his own.
Very good points esp about the satnav coincidentally not working..
Also her messages are deleted, he probably did that for some reason.
@@Amari37-x1o Perhaps he deleted messages where she confided in her friends/family members about concerns regarding his potential for abusive behavior or her fear of him doing something harmful idk
I don’t understand? She told multiple people she felt something was not right yet no one went with her? Sometimes I am just shocked at the stupidity of the human race. He didn’t see her but waited in his car just wow like these murders make me so angry. Preventable that’s what this could have been %100
Same here, I was actually surprised at how infuriated I became thinking about this dude taking his grand old time. Feel like I haven't been this angry in months
Some of her colleagues did offer to go with her, and she told them not to worry about it, because Jason was going with her.
She trusted her boyfriend and I think he set her up. There's no reason for him to not go with her. Realtors work together all the time, she could have easily introduced him as a colleague. The only theory that makes any bit of sense is that her boyfriend and his family set this up and then closed ranks to protect each other.
@@cassie1264 I don't think he had anuthing to do with it. Just very angry that he was late like that
@@cassie1264 I think you're right
Someone just wanted her dead and it was a hit. Suspicion must fall on the boyfriend. Very suspicious that he did not arrive by 530 when she was worried about these people. Then he wasted more time before trying to go in. Also, he took Someone with him which you might take to have a witness that you weren't involved.
Very good points!
Him being so late and having such a solid alibi with his friend and the CCTV could have been very careful set up. I know its been said it was too amateur to be a hired Murder but i keep thinking that it wasn't that amateur considering to this day they have absolutely no leads and no idea really what happened. When you consider that it does seem quite professional.
100%
@@haileyranson8255shoot the footage is so blurry he could’ve paid someone to drive his car away and to the scene. Now I’m thinking too much lol😂
@@selena9310 its so easy to imagine how he could be involved in it!! This case is crazy but I feel like if you take away the most crazy stuff and just focus on what seems logical, it seems like it could be easy to understand. It's crazy!!
I haven't finished this video, yet, so you may give updated info, but I know the case well and going by what I've known.. I still believe the boyfriend and his mother set this up. It's so sad; she took every necessary precaution and the ones she trusted (IMO) set her up. They knew the listing, they knew her, they knew to give the name of an unreachable client as a reference name, etc. The bf and the mom are the only ones that would have known all of that information. Which is also why he was unavailable to her right as she went in with them..he knew what was to take place. I'm praying Lindsay and her family get justice.
I think it was murder for hire too. Definitely the bf. Not sure why the mom would be involved though. That’s horrid.
I’ve always thought it was Jason’s mom. Bella didn’t cover the fact that the woman hated Lindsay and even tried to set her son up with other women.
But what’s the motive?
@@Dollyspeaks211 Jason’s mother, and all the times she blatantly insulted Lindsay, said she wasn’t good enough for Jason, thought Lindsay was trash. Who was the “witness”? Jason. He wasn’t there to help, he was there to make sure it was done.
I agree. I've followed this case for years and it doesn't make sense for it to be anyone other than the bf and his mom. The mom had such connections with the local police that it's made the investigation so frustrating to follow. Lindsey knew too much and whatever she had overheard that spooked her so much and had her questioning her relationship and everything else made her a target and a liability that the mom had to get rid of. I just wish she had told her dad or someone what she had heard. I just hope that someday Lindsey gets justice and her dad gets answers.
God....Lindsay was soo damn careful and did everything to stay safe.....talked about her suspisions to her bf, father, co-workers, tried to verify the refrence those clients mentioned, got database checked for the client's info, told her bf to be there and confirmed multiple times if he was coming and he did come but she still ended up getting murdred in such horrific way! RIP Lindsay!
No he didn't. He showed up after he was sure she was already dead. It makes me so mad. He left late after she reminded him over and over to be on time and he didn't leave the bar until it was time for the showing and wasnt on the way until she confirmed she was already there. She died before he was even otw bc of his GPS supposedly. He is clearly directly involved and sadly the person she trusted to protect her.
The fact that she ended the phone call with her bf at 5:30pm saying that the viewers had just arrived & she had to go, yet he said at 5:45pm when he drove past it looked like they were just taking off their shoes to tour the place is suspicious to me… Why would it take 15 mins to even get into the house? 🤔 if he wasn’t involved this definitely should’ve been a red flag for him
no he said they looked like they were putting them on to leave
@@LuxIqraa Initially… but if you listen @13:45 after they turned around he claims he thought it had just started.
Omg that’s such a good catch! Also him seeing them and then not even really paying attention and not even seeing them leave???
Agreed. Also I see the point Bella makes where she said that Lindsay and her bf didn’t want him to be too involved in the viewing but I wonder if Lindsay actually said out her mouth that she didn’t want him in the house or near the house? It seemed like she really wanted him to be there ie. In the house, outside the house. I just don’t see the point in him arriving late and then he allegedly thought they were just getting into the house why would the first thought be to drive away from the house all the way down the cul da sac where it seems he couldn’t even see the house?? If anything wouldn’t he text or call her to let her know he is there and see if she wants him to come in or even just park outside the house where he can at least see.
I think when the couple was heading to the front door they may have been trying to flee the scene not expecting for people to be waiting out front and had to come up with a different exit strategy.
This case literally happened right down the road from where I live it’s crazy! The house is for sale again and I feel super bad for whichever agent is listing it. Must be super scary
The Watts house was sold to a family with 2 kids.
A reduced price is everything.
also who is going to buy that house? i would be creeped out to even go inside a house with such a history, let alone stay there for the night or normally live there.. what would you use the room in question for? i really cannot imagine it..
Is this the first time it's been for sale ever since Lindsey's death? Wow.
@@mimixmin from what I know yes
@bella your misinformed…Lindsay’s dad did a interview a couple years ago, and a big suspect was Jason’s mother. He mentioned that she told him that she saw something wrong but wouldn’t tell him what it was…. He basically insinuated that the family might be involved in organized crime and a risk of her going to the cops might be the reason she had a hit on her…kinda makes the most sense, probably using the real estate company to wash big money. And yeah, make it messy so it doesn’t look like a professional hit. Also knives are quieter than guns in a populated neighbourhood.
Yep spot on. Exactly what I was thinking 🤔 makes the so much sense
My thoughts exactly. I don't know what she knew, but clearly, they weren't happy, especially if they thought the relationship was going south. It's better to get rid of all the loose ends before Lindsey started talking. JMO
I can’t believe this has never been solved. The people that killed her knew her. Someone in her life is to blame. I don’t know if I trust the boyfriend
I saw this case years ago, and the boyfriend was a suspect. She had told her father that she was breaking off the the engagement with her boyfriend, because things were really bad, I believe he had something to do with it. Conveniently he arrived late, knowing how concerned she was, very suspicious, he could have hired someone. I don't believe it had anything to do with drugs.
Boyfriend and help from his evil mummy. Eurgh what a gross family.
He had money. He definitely could have paid someone to do it. He knew how very worried she was about the viewing…showing up so late is definitely sketchy as hell.
100% believe boyfriend planned it and hired those people to execute. boyfriend had an alibi, his friend. i can almost promise you that she was excited about this HUGE potential sale and Jason told her to be worried, which made her worried in the first place. he grabbed her once he saw her dead, strategically so if there was any DNA then it could be explained. he made her scared about the situation and purposely got there late. he drove around to make it not look “sketchy” but I bet you it was to show police he was in his car the whole time. a caring bf would sit in the driveway the entire time if he knew his significant other was scared for their life and meeting up with strangers.
I hope this case gets solved soon!!! Is so rood she doesn't deserve diet like that !!!
what would be the motive though? I totally agree with you that his actions are suspicious.. but I feel like having a troubled relationship is not reason enough to hire a hit. they weren’t even married.
Hey Bella, not to be the stick in the mud, and say that your videos are anything less than stellar, because that’s just not true. But I will say with this one I do feel like there’s quite a bit of context missing on why people suspect Jason and his mom. If you dive quite a bit deeper and listen to things by Sheila Wysocki and Menzies dad, you will see that there is a lot more reasons behind why they think Jason is involved. And that Shirley is definitely somehow wrapped up into this. There’s so many things that are missing from this, which I understand because it’s a 30 minute wrapup of the story. But if you deep dive and get into the nitty-gritty of everything that was going on in their lives at the time between Lindsay Shirley , Jason, Lindsey‘s dad. Matt. There’s just a lot. And I think that missing that context, kind of leads people to think that it’s not possible for Jason to be involved, because it was just kind of iced over as oh he left the car place at 5:30 and then he went in at six and found her dead. Little things like he ran directly to where she was. How did he know where she was? How did he know she was upstairs? Also, the fact that Shirley showed up at the crime scene in less than 10 minutes. How? How did she know? How did she get there? So fast? I’m not saying that Jason killed her. Clearly he didn’t. But that doesn’t mean he and his mother weren’t involved in it. It’s very clear that this was a hit. Not necessarily a personal hit like from a hitman, but it definitely was a Target attack for Lindsey. Somebody really wanted her dead and I don’t see very many people that had anything to gain from that besides, her boyfriends mom perhaps ??
Someone knows something. I hope someday her family will get justice. This is one weird horrible mystery.
I don't think the murder was amateurish at all - there is no suspect, they got away, no apparent DNA or other evidence left behind. It was brutal and personal, but the phone was bought ahead of time and never used again, there was planning, it was not heat of passion in any way. Her missing messages are key, someone had access and wanted some information to disappear. It is too sad that she didn't take up co- workers on their offers to go with her, and even more tragic that Jason did not get there when he was supposed to.
I think Jason persuated her not to take any friends so he could be her backup instead.
Exactly, it may LOOK amateurish but the fact there is absolutely no evidence, sniffer dogs couldn’t pick up anyones scent and no one close to Lindsay having an obvious motive I fully believe it was a professional job by someone she didn’t know. It was just made to look like an emotional murder. Also, if it was someone she knew, surely she would’ve recognised them when they came to look at the house and if that was the case, surely that would raise her suspicions and she wouldn’t have gone into the house with them? Why would they go under the guise of being a random couple referred to her by someone from way back when?
Just wanted to say I went checking for more and there is a petition in her dads website for her (I’ll comment it under this comment) for everyone to sign and seek justice for her, they’re so so close to the goal like 200 signatures left.
Being a true crime watcher comes with some responsibility and if only 200 of all the people that watch this video takes the time to sign it we can really help her and her dad get justice❤
What's the website? Truly would like to help out
Please link the website for us!
Link?
Signed❤
Couldnt find your other comment with the link-?? Can you comment here as a reply?
I am so glad that you covered this case. This happened in my hometown, and it truly is haunting for everyone that this isn’t solved. She truly deserves justice.
Thank you for doing an unsolved case. I like these better than solved ones and they need more coverage.
I’m 99% sure her boyfriend organized this. He has evil in his eyes that I’ve rarely seen in my life that chills me to my core.
Absolutely agree!
Brilliant detective skills. Let’s just base the guilt of a person on how their eyes look. Right? Let’s just accuse a person of murder based on their facial features because that isn’t any sorts of fucked up.
I’m sorry, but comments like this are why people don’t take this community seriously. It’s stupid and dangerous to say things like this. The True Crime community is so toxic the way you guys just pounce on someone, fully willing to ruin their lives based on absolute garbage reasoning.
Was she autopsied? Do we know if she was pregnant? The bf may have wanted to get rid of both.
Thanks for covering this case Bella! A youtuber who has long since deleted her channel posted this case years ago and I’ve always been so curious as to why more people don’t cover this one. It’s so bizarre.
Her case coverage blew my mind and I’ve been fascinated ever since, i miss her :(
@@audreyjarvie8570I’m glad someone else remembers! I’m a little bummed Bella didn’t cover the mom but to be fair that theory is almost entirely speculation but it makes more sense than the 2 official theories IMO.
I remember her channel too! Her coverage of this case was so memorable to me. Hope she's doing well.
Cayleigh?
Actually a lot of UA-camrs have covered this case
Yay! Always look forward to your post, despite the brutal content😬 you always do such a good job at staying respectful!
My intuition says that the bf is involved somehow, and that the only reason he is seen in the CCTV is because he simply wanted an alibi. Poor girl and her family😢
Your true crime videos were the first that I watched many many years back. And they still are my favorite! I remember you covering the case of the Beaumont children as if it was yesterday! I love you Bella! Thank you for your videos! ❤❤❤
This is so heartbreaking. She did everything right, and set up protection but still couldn't save herself.
Hello Bella glad to see another case have been missing you. You are 1 of my favorite channels. I love how you spread knowledge about all your cases. Heart❤
It still feels like the boyfriend. He knows how viewings work and how long they take, and unless he is chronically late to everything, and just generally blows her off, he could have deliberately delayed leaving so he would have an alibi. Parking around the corner and where you can't see anything is also weird. Why wouldn't you wait out front? Big house like that has a lot of street parking out front. The whole thing with him is super weird. They were wealthy so he could have paid someone to do it. Anyone who kills people for money are psychopaths so the frenzy wouldn't surprise me, especially if they weren't professionals and just someone he found who would be willing.
Hey bella! Love the Unsolved series and your narration is just perfect! ✨
I just got so excited to see Bella pop up in my notifications!! ❤❤ I love the way she talks! 😂😂
I’m unsure if Jason knew but I’d be very interested to hear the family dynamics between Jason’s mom and how they felt about Lindsay and their relationship. I could see an overbearing mother “taking care of a problem” for her son. Especially if it came to business and her knowing something or them not wanting her working with them anymore.
This is so sad. This story just reinforces my pet peeve about people not being on time or being where they say they’re gonna be.
I don't understand how the "boyfriend" was late when she expressed that she was unsure of it. He obviously wasn't worried.
Good morning Bella! So happy you’ve been posting a little more lately☺️💜
I think Jason hired it, honestly. Whoever killed Lindsay got her personal phone number from somewhere. Her personal messages were then accessed & deleted afterward. Jason repeatedly messed up on getting to the house Lindsay was showing that evening, and didnt even leave on time. He encouraged her to go despite her gut feelings, only take him for protection, didnt go to the house for 35 minutes, & then never actually hurried into the house. He asked people if he should break the window but didnt, asked for the passcode to the door which didnt work, etc.... then after calling his brother + the police: he realizes the back doors are open? Goodbye
This reassures a huge lesson on listening to your gut man you rather be safe than sorry 🥺 So sad Update: maybe his wealthy family didn’t want him with her and tried to get rid of her? Didn’t his mom work there also?
Hey Bella! I love your videos and how you give great background info and create a vivid description of each case. As always, this case shocked me so much. Unsolved cases are somehow way scarier to me than solved ones because the fact that the killer is still out there is horribly frightening.
I wonder if you've covered the Parker-Hulme case in New Zealand? I read about it online recently and it shook me to my core. I would love to see your take on it.
You rock and lots of love from India!😄
if you’re ever wanting to do another canadian case, i recommend the calgary massacre. i’ve never seen anyone cover this case!
You’re the best Bella, please do more cases like these! So fascinating. My question is, couldn’t police retrieve those deleted Facebook messages?
You are my favorite ! Just found you this week. Your delivery of the stories is so easy to follow. You have a wonderful way about you. Keep up the good work!
I just watched the movie Reptile or Reptiles and it's based on this murder. I literally open youtube to search more about it and your video was on my home screen. Just sharing the coincidence hehe I love your content
Omg that's what I thought I was like Reptile!!!!!
i didn’t know Reptile is based on this case but this my first time hearing it too. now it makes sense and they said it was the rich bf and his mom smh
Was binge watching your videos when you posted this new video. So excited to watch this new case. You're my absolute favourite x❤
Poor girl, I feel so bad. People in careers where you have to meet people alone in strange or new places should hire private security or have safety alarms. I know it can be pricey but nothing is more important than safety. And even then, tell multiple people your plans & when they should hear from you.
They had to have been hired - she would've recognized them, otherwise. It was personal- but she didn't know those who stabbed her.
I agree. I think a clue that it is probably a hired hit job is that the burner phone was purchased months before. I suspect whoever purchased the burner phone probably kept several on hand; it was a regular thing to just grab a burner phone from a stash and use it for a job.
The partner being late is so frustrating, just leaves so many theories up in the air, but also I think incriminates him, if he was soo concerned then it was surely not that hard to just be on time.
Was there any info on the relationship with his brother, no jealousy etc.
Also who was the girl the bf was pictured with 👀
I really hope this one (and all of them) get solved 🤞🏽
I 100% think the boyfriend was involved. Very convenient that he waited so long to go to her showing he was supposed to go to. I think he hired someone OR her ex hired someone.
I agree, the more I dove into this case the more the boyfriends family seems sus. There’s so many little connections that make this case so much crazier.
Holy shit! I've been WAITING for someone to cover this case! Im from Victoria and it's truly so absolutely insane that this happened. Thank you for sharing her story. May she rest in peace 🫶🏽✨
I'm so glad you covered this case! I can't explain why, other than Lindsey is around my age and her and her friends reminded me of my friends, but this case has stuck with me for years. I always come back to it and look for updates or for new interviews/podcasts with her dad. Her dad's determination to find justice for Lindsey is another reason why this case stays with me. She had her whole life in front of her and to walk into work and never walk out is just gut wrenching. To me, this had to be someone close to her and most likely related to her boyfriend's family. Her boyfriend was so weird the whole time, his story and actions just are too convenient and the fact he wasn't there says a ton. It almost reminds me of the Adelson family in the Dan Markel case where the entire family was involved and all covering for each other. The connections the family had make finding the truth so frustrating and all I can hope is someday Lindsey gets justice and her dad gets answers. 😢
It’s a Thanksgivings miracle🤗🥳. Bella is back & just in time to save us from boring family chit chat! Happy you’re back
I read that his mother set this up. The mother worked in real estate. The same company. She did not like her. I heard Lindsay and the mother had a lot of issues together. There was another channel that went through some very extensive details.
Just not liking her and having issues wouldn't be a motive for murder that her son was also involved with. Just break up, problem solved. There had to be more to it involving some wrongdoing that Lindsay found out about.
@@zebralove2840 Yeah boo there is ALOT more to the story. I just did not elaborate on it.
I wonder if the mother was up to something dodgy and Lindsay knew about it so she wanted her eliminated? Simply not liking her son's current girlfriend would be a thin motive for murder so I wonder if through the business Lindsay knew more than she was supposed to know.
It’s the fact that his GPS just happened to completely stop working, very suspicious
Omg I was like I’m just gonna watch one of her old videos on my break but a new one 😍😍😍
Imagine the killers actually watching these unsolved mystery videos and listening to theories of themselves 😵
Lindsay‘s father recently posted on Facebook about how her ex-boyfriend and his mother are suing him or something like that. I personally think they’re guilty as hell.
This case is local to me, still so wild. Hoping one day it’s solved. I recently watched the movie Reptile and I could have SWORN elements of the movie were taken right from this very case
I thought of Reptile too
WHAT A GREAT START TO THE MORNING! Bella is so lovely!!
Respectfully, there’s quite a lot of information missing from this video. If someone who knew nothing about this case watched this video, they could easily write off the boyfriend’s movements around/during the murder as just unfortunate. However, there are a lot more compelling reasons as to why many people believe the boyfriend (AND his family) could have been involved - and I wish that was all discussed in this video because it’s important to the case and people need to know.
As someone who's been in an abusive relationship with a very smart person who knows how to lie and cover their tracts very well, I 100% believe this was the bf. Like it couldn't be more obvious. If he really loved her as much as he said he did, he would have been there on time if not early. He clearly knew what he was doing. Any random person would have no reason to delete her messages. Really the only person who would be able to delete her messages would be the person she was sharing a laptop with. I think he probably knew these people very well so that's why they were willing to help him.
Lindsay was encouraged by Jason to show the home. He assured her he would be there. Jason's mother, a long-time realtor, vetts all her potential clients. Jason in the industry knows the process to qualify anyone, and this was his practice.
So we have one family who encourages a young new realtor to bypass all the precautions they would take themselves.
There is no mystery......money laundering/mortgage fraud, I believe Lindsay saw something.
What colleague,BF, husband would promise to be at the property, then not show up?
Keep up the good work❤
Omg this happened right by the house I grew up in! A block from my childhood home. I remember my mom and I having to detour because of the police & it being blocked off. It was a little scary for me there when I found out what happened, thank you for covering her story ❤ this case still bothers me to this day, I’ll never forget it 😢
Hey Bella! Omg I’ve been following you for years , and then I just hear Calgary Alberta , that’s where I live !!! So shocking but cool to hear you talk about a case from where I live !!!
What pisses me off is the bf was late after she TOLD him she felt anxious to meet this mysterious couple. (If he wasn’t involved) he should have shown up early or right on time to go in the house with her considering they spoke about this particular showing beforehand. Things could’ve went differently if he kept his word.
not only being late but then parking down the street facing away from the house!? if he wasn’t involved he’s a total jackass
I am so glad you did this case. I started listening to it on a channel once and never finished so I never found out what happened. I think about it all of the time, but I had no idea what it was called.
Bella!! You should do the Springfield three case. By far one of my favourite true crime cases I’ve ever come across
I would be very interested to have spoken with workers at the ferries around that time. I’m sure ferry workers would have definitely seen these suspects at some point while they were making their way from Vancouver to Victoria.
The algorithm must have been doing me dirty cause I missed you lady!!! Happy to see ya 🎉
I loveeeee seeing this case getting coverage!
It was definitely targeted. I.feel like someone benefitted from this. I don't trust Jason and his friend at all. I don't even trust his mother Shirley.
definitely the bf/bf’s family for me. i don’t think it was due to something as simple as relationship issues though. i think she must’ve known something she wasn’t supposed to know (potentially came out on the family trip). or maybe she had some sort of shared ownership over something that the bf didn’t want to split and he knew she was going to leave her some time.
how was her boyfriend SO late😭😭 im actually shocked. she was so scared and worried, he had no reason to leave where he was at the time he was supposed to be there, and had no reason not having the address and route prior. im actually BAFFLED
It’s still unsolved….thanks for sharing cases with us which we don’t know
So interesting to hear a local story! I’m from Vancouver.
If Lindsay was an informant, LE wouldn’t confirm it if there was an ongoing investigation. Considering she was repeatedly reaching out to former associates who were reportedly involved in illegal activity, I think Lindsay may very well have been an informant.
Interesting how the cops call the murder “amateur,” and yet it’s still unsolved. What does that say about the police?
But Bella, really think you would be a great investigator about The Vatican Girl, a girl that went missing over 30 years ago(I believe) & the cold case was just reopened too. Would love to hear your thoughts on the sad, strange, very conspiracy theory-hype case. I say this all with respect, I just want your take on the famous case, it’s so messed up Bella. Missed you.
The police had so much information with this case and it is still unsolved. I feel like this was carried through with a professional, especially with the phone previously purchased. Hired by someone that was close to her. or either planned out in advanced and followed through by someone close to her. How did they get her number? And how did they know a real name of someone that was a previous client?. This also ties in with the theory that the mum or boyfriend was involved. As much as I don’t want to believe it’s the boyfriend because he seems so genuine, someone else stated how coincidental it was for his map to not work and him to have to go get his friend, while she was literally being murdered.
People don't only assume Jason for those reasons though. I obviously don't believe he was that actual murderer however, Lindsay worked with his mother - which could explain how the killers managed to convince Lindsay that one of her clients (who was conveniently out of town at the time) was the one who gave them her personal number.
In addition, Jason ran up the stairs immediately after getting inside as if he knew he would find her there.
Besides being late, him being with a friend (a witness that would side with him), not having his GPS working that day, and moving his car so far away from where he was originally parked to a location where he could not see at all - could easily signify he only put on the lights as a signal and then moved the car to let the killers leave without his friend witnessing.
It doesn't make much sense based on the description of the killers, that Lindsay knew them. It doesn't sound like they did that much to hide their identities. Otherwise, I'm sure she would have confronted them & made atleast some commotion for them lying about who they are?
Meaning that she most likely was set up by hitmen. It could be speculated that she was killed with a knife because that was requested by the person who set her up? To make her suffer more?
Also, the murder is not that amateur. The killers bought a phone months before ever even calling Lindsay for the first time, appears they paid for it with cash, they left no kind of evidence behind including never using the phone again, not even the car they used to get away was spotted... them killing her with a knife could simply mean it was requested or they wanted the "thrill". Doesn't necessarily mean they didn't think it through.
I've never been so sure about an unsolved murder before but this was 100% a hit man. Knowing that, they were then most likely hired by the boyfriend/family. He also had access to her Facebook and could've deleted those messages.
the hardest to investigate crimes are those committed by someone who has absolutely no connection to the victim, and it’s so scary. if they leave no evidence, it’s nearly impossible to catch them.
just in time for Thanksgiving !! Thank u for uploading Bella!! missed u!!!
You said they know the mysterious woman used a burner phone can they not go back and use surveillance cameras to see who purchased the phone cause they are obviously involved
Oh man it seems very strange that Jason was so late leaving to be there for Lindsay if she was so worried about being there alone. He is late leaving then his nav system doesn’t work and doesn’t have the address until he is already late leaving. 35 min is a long time for someone to be killed. If he is innocent he did a really bad job of being there to protect her (murderers don’t wait for someone to be 15 min late) or maybe it was on purpose. Even if he didn’t do it he could have been connected to him. I don’t understand how he could have protected her if something happened by being down the street without being able to see anything?
Thank you for covering. I live in BC and I remember when this happened. Sometimes you never find out the conclusion so thank you for sharing her story.
So very sad. My husband met her father and they discussed the murder. He is still very committed to getting justice for Lyndsay.
Yayyyyy so excited to see you posted today ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hello Bella. Missing the earrings. Did you happen to mention why you stopped wearing them and I just missed it. Your hair is growing. It looks nice.
Just a guess but maybe she didn’t take her earring collection with her when moving to London, I doubt they would be a priority when moving so far with limited luggage space?
A girl died….
@@xocreme Care to elaborate. You can’t be referring to this video because it was a woman that died not a girl. Also, someone dies in almost 100% of her videos and that didn’t stop her from wearing the unique earrings before.
@@marlaacoleeIt’s really weird to shame someone for asking a question about something that used to be standard in videos. You could make an argument that Bella talking about people’s deaths and making money off of it is insensitive too.
@@marlaacolee 🤨... with that logic, it could also be seen as a little insensitive to be speaking about if her style changed or not. Very contradictory comment you made.
It's the fact you shamed someone for asking a question about something non-related (in your opinion) on a true crime video, while also answering their question...??! Hope you saved some of that shame to pass onto yourself, too!
I get so excited and so happy when a new episode is up the most brilliant UA-camr ever!! Bella 👏👏👏👏
She saw something she shouldn’t have, she told her dad. However,she didn’t tell him what is was.
I think she saw something at her job, something to do with the Zailo’s. So they hired someone to get rid of Lindsay. So heartbreaking. Praying for Jeff to get answers soon, to find out what happened to his daughter. Justice for Lindsay.❤️
Could it be the wife of one of the individuals in the drug bust? The intensity of the murder would align with the anger of a wife who has just found out her husband is to be sent away in prison for years? As you said they want to point fingers and perhaps believe it is Lindsay who snitched?
As someone from Victoria, in my opinion this was a hired hit on Lindsay. Someone who kills for a living came over here from Vancouver after somebody else paid him for it
It’s always so strange to hear about cases that happened so close to me that I’ve never heard of 😢
I remember watching a video on this case years ago, and there was a theory that her boyfriends mom had something to do with it. I’m not sure why though