Rings of Power Season 2 Trailer Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Amazon Prime's Rings of Power Season 2 trailer is set up like a horror movie, which may very well suit fans of the source material who aren't going to watch this after the debacle that was season 1.
I can't take credit for this but I saw something to the effect of: "But all of them were deceived, for a new wig was made..." 🤣🤣🤣
With all the emphasis about elven hair since PJ’s trilogy, it’s been a few years I’ve entertained myself with the idea of the elves getting bald because of their lost connection with the Undying Lands, and a dark Lord promising them wondrous wigs, while "forging a Master Wig in the fires of Mount Doom". I was probably not the first on the idea but now, with the trailer of ROP online, it’s only become a new zeitgeist.
One wig to rule them all, one wig to find them, One wig to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them; In the Land of MorHair where the shadows dye.
@@troupemusographes2460 That's a perfect idea for a parody of Rings of Power specifically.
Just realized that I care more about your cats than I do about this show.
@@jimmykawasaki833 I mean... me too 😅
I am so glad to see you back talking about these shows.
She's a treat to listen to, for sure
It’s so easy to misjudge narrative manicheism as being simplistic and old-fashioned, though sometimes it is (most often than not in low-quality fantasy?). Unexperienced writers are prone to this mistake, thinking they’re bringing depth and subtlety while inserting morally flawed heroes and not-so-evil villains in a universe usually built on strong moral duality.
Not that it shouldn’t be tried. Star Wars show Andor does it well, thanks to its good writing, and the showrunner has been smart enough to leave aside all narrative elements that could play as obstacles to his own take on the franchise (jedis...).
All in all, I agree that nobody should never try to implement this kind of trendy trope into Tolkien’s universe. It ruins it to the core.
@@troupemusographes2460 Andor was great! Looking forward to season 2 of that show. I hope it holds up.
I think one of the problems with "wokeness" in storytelling is that because writers are so conscious about "perpetuating harmful stereotypes" you can kinda guess what will happen based on the race, sex etc of characters. e.g. the Sith inquisitor in Obi-Wan Kenobi will redeem herself because she's played by a black woman
The people that are woke are usually first world citizen that are not suffering any kind of hardship. If you are a straight white male in Ukraine you are privileged an oppressing a spoiled person in the US. That is how I see it as a non-American. And you are also never included in the stories. They only represent American. Wokeness replace one culture white American with the same culture black American.
Putin is a good example of wokeness . He think America is oppressing Russia and its all Americas fault. But people only believe in the part of wokeness that benefits them. That they oppress the whole world, according to their own teaching, is not welcome. The reason is they want to be oppressed. The reality is they are the most privileged people and therefore they are oppressing the rest of the world.
@@Brand131 This is only the case with weak writing though. The writing would be weak if all the characters were white, straight, etc. too
@@amys0482 I think you're entirely *technically* correct with your position on this. Weak writing is weak writing, and a story can have (even quite strong) woke elements and be excellent.
However, it's impossible to ignore that in the current entertainment environment we can predict whether a story will be weak with nearly 100% accuracy based solely on how woke it appears from promotiinal material. Many of those so-called facists (I don't know who you're thinking of but that term gets used just as freely as woke does) may not be the most articulate, or pass as intellectual giants to you, but they've usually identified something real.
@@Golmov_the_Wretched The begrudging way you acknowledge that a story "can" have woke elements and be excellent is the problem--not a problem with you, but with the success of the rhetoric or as evidence of discriminatory bias.
I would argue strong themes nearly always make stories better, especially progressive themes.
What the critics point out is that "performative" or tokenist writing can be cringey and lower the quality of the work. But I think calling this "woke" is disingenuous.
It's not the message that is bad. It is how it is woven or shoved into the story.
The whole production has been, to steal from Douglas Adams, almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Tolkien's writings. The only reason to watch it is curiosity, but it is the sort of curiosity that makes train-wrecks fascinating. Even setting aside the extremely poor portrayal of Tolkien's 'feigned history'' (as he called it), the storytelling itself was egregious. Númenor makes no sense; _mithril_ makes no sense; time and distances make no sense; the whole 'key' plot for Mount Doom makes no sense; the Harfoot society makes no sense. One could go on. I will let Mark Twain (writing about James Fenimore Cooper's literary offenses) say it for me:
"A work of art? It has no invention; it has no order, system, sequence, or result; it has no lifelikeness, no thrill, no stir, no seeming of reality; its characters are confusedly drawn, and by their acts and words they prove that they are not the sort of people the author claims that they are; its humor is pathetic; its pathos is funny; its conversations are-oh! indescribable; its love-scenes odious; its English a crime against the language.
"Counting these out, what is left is Art. I think we must all admit that."
Nice to see you again. I'll watch out for your reviews.
It just goes to show how spoiled we've all become (me included). In the 70's I would watch every single fantasy output I could get my hands on and love every second regardless of how cheesy or implausible it was. 🙂 I miss that. Being fussy has become boring. Amyway. Great review.
Good to see you will be taking on RoP season 2.
There's nothing wrong with Wokeism. The problem starts when imposters (Erik Kain's term) appropriate it and insert tokens in the name of representation.
Agree with you on black and white, evil and goodness.
Throwing yourself on the grenade for the amusement of others? All I can do is, wish you well.
@@SummitSummit Meaning watching a show? If I got through Blood Origin, I can get through ROP 😅
@@amys0482 Well, make sure you take plenty of notes on first viewing so you don't have to subject yourself to what will undoubtedly be unforgivable drivel more than once.
"Therapy works and to prove it to you all I'm going to watch season 2..." Good luck I know I couldn't do it!
Critiques like this are direly needed, otherwise people think that corporate slop equals leftist wokefied art. Which sounds insane when you realize what most successful creatives tend to be, but here we are... Even Tolkien, whose religiosity can't be questioned, definitely had a lot of sensitivities as a creative person that are rare in deeply dogmatic conservative people.
@@alexkats30 I think Tolkien was more conservative than a lot of modern fantasy authors and readers maybe realize, but still, yes. I watched a fascinating video about how Eowyn was inspired by a fairytale that is arguably a trans myth, and Tolkien put a more conservative spin on it. Truly fascinating. I'll dig it up if you're curious.
@@amys0482 Tolkien was definitely very religious and conservative. But he had certain sensitivities and insights about humanity, the environment, the human condition and the average person that I doubt most people who are vying to "claim" him nowadays, would actually agree with if their belief system was put to the test
thanks: Forgot the show too. But happy to watch it through channels like yours.
Other than you - I pretty much think Elrond was just like Galadriel. The show trys to confince you that the character is the opposite of what he really is.
Galadriel just got the "stoic elvelike" face and Elrond got the "sundayschoolteacher smirk elvenlike" face direction from the showrunners. Elrond literally only shows up because he needs something from the dwarfs, lies to his friend (by losing the rock-smashing), spys on his "friend", breaks into his secret mine, breaks his oath and tells everyone about mithril (he couldn´t make the offer of wood and stuff without the permission of the king and talks with the smithelve openly about mithril and let him study it) and in the next scene he says "but you can trust me because I am only an half elve". He could have slept with Disa and Durin and himself would still say he is the best guy/friend in the world. I think he is worse than Galadriel - because I don´t care for anyone who interacts with Galadriel - but Durin and Disa would be such a good couple to follow if it wasn´t for oathbreaker Elrond.
Sorry - It seems season 2 will open some old wounds. ;-)
The most shocking was - I read that Halbrand is called that, because its German for Halb (Half-) Rand (Frame) and its glasses that only has a frame on the bottom of the glasses - because he is an eye! I speak german and think its the most hilarious trivia I ever read about a show.
The whole thing is about the choice between submitting to the will of Eru, as you deem it, or following your own desire and ignoring the rest of His creation. Melkor wants to possess Arda. Feanor makes the Silmarils to capture the beauty of Arda, then sends his family to hell in an oath to retrieve them. Galadriel finds peace when she is able to forsake the ring, like a lesser Silmaril, and abandon her quest for power. The dwarves follow the will of Aule, not Eru and are perhaps doomed. Men war because they are deceived into fearing death, rejoining Eru. The hobbits are at peace because they follow the word of Eru as it appears in their own hearts, to seek harmony.
Amazon just decided not to include that part lol.
I cannot wait to hear your reactions to each episode. I too thought season 1 was bad for essentially all the same reasons as you, and I'm looking forward to seeing how much messier it all gets in season 2 😂
Wokeness is as destructive as committing social injustices. In fact it is. Im a multi racial individual and the best way to reach social equality is to ignore race and gender and respect the individual and their culture!!!
@@ThomasAnomolus Respectfully disagree as someone with a disability who has workplace accommodations
I didn't even know a teaser was out for this show.
@@Darm0k They've been quieter on the marketing!
@@amys0482 a little strange considering the amount of money they've sunk into it.
I'll watch episode 1 because I'm curious to know how they will try to climb out of the hole they dug in the first season. And then maybe just watch a few UA-cam reviews for the rest of the episodes. I watched the first 3 episodes of season 1 and then lost interest and just continued to follow the series by watching youtube reviews for the laughs. Or maybe if it's any good then continue to watch both the series and the youtube reviews.
The main issue I have with the entire production of Amazon's Rings of Power is the mediocrity of their approach. IP issues aside, the story as told so far, lacks a soul. It's endless baiting without recompense. Its pseudo-Tolkienian tone clashes with the grandeur of the source. Honestly, the expectations are low and I'd rather reread the books or watch the Peter Jackson adaptations. If anything good comes from it, will be the digest and reviews like yours. I'll be sure to save the popcorn for then. Cheers.
@@arkzulu I really do think this is it. There's no struggle of the heart, no complex thinking or expression of a lived experience or theme. It's just plot points stitched together with pretty scenery. Not my kind of storytelling.
Well, Amy, thank you in advance for watching it so I don't have to.
Hi Amy - welcome back! I will be one of those people who will not be watching season 2 and will look forward to your coverage. That's how I satisfied my curiosity regarding WOT season 2 as I could not muster enough motivation to actually watch it.
I wonder if the reason Galadriel never mentions the Halbrand/Sauron reveal to the other Elves was to allow the writers to pin the destruction of Eregion on Galadriel to give her more stuff to be angry and and angsty about in season 2. She's already done that to Numenor by brining Sauron to their Island and help drive a wedge between the factions. So basically this Galadriel is Sauron's helper because she's just that dimwitted? No wonder they keep trying to ship them.
Regarding the moth lady - maybe she is one of the three priestesses or whatever they were who were tracking "Gandolf" in season 1? Didn't they all turn to moths when he blasted them?
@@mickypea1 I forgot all about those people. Quite possibly!
Only 37% of US viewers finished the show
I rarely get super indignant about stuff concerning money. But when I had finished watching season 1 of RoP, I could not stop myself from thinking, "Seriously? 1 billion god damn dollars for this? 1 billion dollars for 8 episodes of at best mediocre tv? How is this justified? How much good could be done with that much money? Some people are struggling to even save up 5 thousand dollars, and these people at Amazon spent 1 BILLION dollars on making something this bland and ridiculous?"
What a letdown😅
If the sea is always "right", then does that mean...
- morally righteous?
- rhetorically correct?
- politically conservative?
or...
- off to the side?
So many questions.
@@Bonko78 I have no idea. It could be "don't turn your back on the ocean" or it could be something weird. I know why Haggard thinks the sea is always good in The Last Unicorn, as it is a major plot point. I have no idea what is being referenced in ROP.
@@amys0482 Well, joking aside, I would assume that your first conjecture may be the closest. These people seem to worship the sea almost as a deity and will accept it's harsh treatment as a form of judgment. But the choice of words makes their chant sound dumb rather than profound.
You made many good points in this video and I like that you try to be objective, despite having a stated preference toward the "woke" stuff. I think the political aspects of this show create unnecessary disputes and baggage but it's indeed possible to look at the writing in isolation from that.
You said it all so so well. Its so.. so bad, lol. Ugh. I keep thinking about why Amazon would hire the two writers with zero experience or know-how to do a big project like this - is it really just for money's sake? Like, they didn't want to hire someone actually good because they didn't want to have to pay them the kind of salary they would demand? Amazon.. yknow, the super poor and struggling company that's gotta hire the cheapest guys in town to head their biggest franchise ever.... lol wow. I just really can't with today's corporate BS. They have zero respect for anything besides their own greed. Sadly all of our favorite stories that were written by actual artists will go down the same drain when it comes to tv or movie adaptations, which is a huge shame, since really, they do absolutely have the power to make an amazing show! Lol that's what gets me. I don't think it would really be that hard, would it? With so many people out there who know LOTR religiously, like you said, it's not like the talent or passion or smarts isn't out there, they just don't want to pay for it. But they'll pay for the pretty CGI because they think that's what will make them money overall. Pretty shiny thing, humans want. lol sad but true. So here we are. :( I'll watch your reviews of this coming season cuz I want to know what happens.. but I don't want to waste much more of my lifetime on something so wasteful.
@@grump9001 I don't know but I would guess it is a combination of better writers declining the project, knowing it is folly, and Hollywood being Hollywood. Even Amazon's version of Hollywood invites the same slick, quick-cash, conartistry that the industry is famous for.
@@amys0482 I can totally understand people's unwillingness to put their name on something crap, but still. Not a job I'd pass up personally! lol But I guess I'm too idealistic, thinking it would turn out better. lol Idk. Very disappointing though. You'd think with how much money they have, there would be people trying hard to make it great. Which- well to be fair, there ARE a lot of people working their butts off on these shows, they're just not the writers apparently :(
@@grump9001 Yeah, there are hard workers involved for sure. One of the reasons the poor writing is so disappointing.
I don't know how true it is but I've been told that they shelved the Conan tv series by Ryan Condal in favor of this franchise. If this is true I assume then that the budget earmarked for that show was transferred to this. So it can't be that they don't have the money for top notch writers.
@@Coycoy well they definitely HAVE the money... its just a matter of if they're willing to actually spend it on someone worth a shirt. but it would seem not. :( Or are they actually that confident in some writers who had zero experience? that's what i'm wondering. is it just plain stupidity? lol or greed? or both? 😆ugh
I'm looking forward to hearing your review of Season 2. Please review Blood Origin. My brother and I enjoyed bonding time chopping it to bits.
Ooo, don't ask her to review that. Watching it once was harmful enough.
@@SummitSummit I honestly don't think I can watch it twice.
Still wondering how they're going to arc RoP Galadriel to LotR Galadriel. The latter has Istari-level magical power and skills, patience, prophesying, and wisdom. All that, and about a foot in height over RoP Galadriel, who is a single-minded hothead with the emotions of a teenager even though she's the oldest main character (*) in RoP. They've got a lot of ground to cover to tone her down, wise her up, ramp her magic skills, and manifest her ethereal grace and telepathy talents. I've whined before and I'll whine again: the original LotR trilogy showed that you can take a well-loved property, follow it quite closely, and still have a winning and beloved set of movies. Same with GoT for the first five seasons. I know showrunners want to make their bones but could they please do it with their own properties, not the revered ones with the built-in audiences? We don't mind little surprises but don't make foundational changes to narratives which have stood considerable authorial attention and reader challenges.
(*) Meteor Man might be older. Probably is. But clearly not in a continuously-conscious way. Galadriel has already seen a *lot* of stuff.
@@kevindenelsbeck7444 They'll probably have Galadriel learn magic from Gandalf, which would be cringey, but I can see them doing that.
Also forgot the show existed
What I don't get it why would Anatar go to Eregion in season 2, The 3 rings are already made in season one, do you remember Amazon changed the idea why the rings were made. He touched the only 3 rings he should be aware of, this show completely illogical to the books or the 6 PJ movies.
@@dododimitrov9657 oh the condensed timelines and reshuffling of events are nowhere near book accurate.
@@amys0482 also not accurate to their own invented previous plot lines.So this new Sauron in disguise appears in brand new wig and they forgot what happened in season one and decided to trust him. I am lost, even if I ignore the lore and follow what Amazon has to offer.
You should take a look at the Fallout show. It's not perfect by any means but they don't do any of the things that you mention here: the plot is thought through, the characters are likable, the female character is really strong but not a Mary Sue etc.
I really enjoyed Fallout, and especially the characters of Lucy and the Ghoul. But I wouldn't say it's a well thought through show. I'd argue the plot is basically nonsensical actually, and relys almost entirely on several insane coincidences.
The vibe was top-notch though.
@@Golmov_the_Wretched You could be right. But I liked it as well nonetheless. :)
@@Kentchangar that is the important thing 🙂
I predict Tom B will give the Stranger his hat and blue robe, turning the Stranger into the Blue Wizard. After that is confirmed, I am going to turn it off.
@@psazani I just recently saw that Tom is going to be in this. Wincing already
I'm sure you would do a better job than these two bozos
Rings of thrones doesn't do it for me...
You’re the greatest “girl boss” ever! Be careful! Your book shelf looks like it will fall on you. I will saaavveee you! 😀
Wait, what?
It wasn't cancelled?
But it was SOOOO bad...
It was the Ring of Power in a television show format.
Watching it is effectively like telling the universe that you want to be a slave.
Why is there going to be a season 2?
Oh, right, Amazon.
I forgot, people with money can waste more than people without it.
@@Dam-a-fence they committed to five seasons!
It's not worth it seeing this show, at least not unless you want to have a laugh seeing how dumb and crazy people creating it is.
@@luisquecedo7385 Basically this
@@amys0482 have fun then, I remember I started S1 being outrageous, but I managed to change the chip and enjoy how bad the final 2 episodes were and how stupid the themes and reveals turn out to be.
But as long as S2 is refered, I don't think i'll give them the views. Maybe if I'm too bored and reviews got something funny, I'll watch it, but from a piracy site, I won't tarnish my prime account again.
I guess the studio wants maleable inexperienced people on this show
@@elektrikmaus Maybe they "know someone" and talked themselves into the job? No idea.
@@amys0482 From what I've heard, Dumb and Dumber were recommended as screenwriters to Amazon by Jar-Jar Abrams, with whom they worked on the Star Trek franchise - they're disciples of his "mystery box" nonsense.
People on the left keep confusing diversity with woke. Diversity is fine because it's organic - I give you shows like OZARK and HALSTON and THE DIPLOMAT. There are plenty of diverse characters in them, but those characters are never handled with kid gloves - those characters are never given a pass, and never clumsily and predictably elevated over heterosexual white men, simply by virtue of certain immutable features. This is called art. Whereas woke, which commits all of the above-mentioned crimes and more, isn't art. It's propaganda, and propaganda is the death of art.
@@waltergold3457 Diversity is fine but woke commits the above "crimes" and more?
I work in the DEI space. I think you misunderstand it. DEI is not a zero sum game where unqualified people with immutable features are elevated above hetero white men. It is about shifting systems of prejudice that formally ONLY gave opportunity to hetero white men to allow equal access to marginalized groups.
@@amys0482 Crimes against art, yes - and as a worker in the DEI space, which I think largely a racket, you devise the divisive and counterproductive "struggle sessions" to which I referred in another comment? 🙂 I hardly need remark that when - like Amazon, creator of THE RINGS OF POWER - you create formal policy and checklists which demand the hiring and promotion of certain groups over other ones, based solely on things like race and sex, you've already built your house on sand, and are merely practicing racism and sexism in their modern manifestations.
@@waltergold3457 That's not what DEI is. I work in pay equity.
@@amys0482 Equal pay for equal work is only fair and, I think, the law of the land for nearly sixty years.
So you dont want to watch it but you are going to so you can critique it. So are you just a click hunter. Lol do you like the peter jackson trilogy?
@@SmiloRen I don't think watching something to review it is the same as click hunting. I like Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy, but not the hobbit movies. The books have some things the movies don't and visa versa. I like some of the changes made but not all of them.
@@amys0482 no its click hunting if your gonna just trash it because you dont like it like the rest of the hater brigade
@@SmiloRen I don't know if I will hate it or what I will say about it before I watch it
@@amys0482 well thats fair