Yesterday I watch your video, today I went to buy the elbows, got a bucket and put it together in 20 minutes. It works like a charm. Hope you read this and known that you make some dude in Argentina extremely happy.
@@JoeBlow-24 But it doesnt doesn't tell you how much micro particles came through and those are the dangerous ones. To sort out the big junk is not a problem. Actually bought and made me the same system and I can tell you you still need a bag a filter and an air cleaner for the Dangerous dust. Most of the reviews on UA-cam are lacking Proper testing.
@@PatchworxStudios who's to say there isn't a hepa filter on the vacuum? It seems to me the focus of this test is to separate as much bulk as possible. In that regard this cheap solution was a success.
@@JoeBlow-24 There was a statement about clogging up the filter slower but still it's the fine dust that will clog it. I am not against the idea for I am using it myself. What i wanted to say is that it somewhat useless to weight the dust because it is not representative for the efficiency of a cyclone. Even a poorly made one has a very high efficiency if you measure it like this. By the way those Bucket builds are just not even close to a proper cyclone cause of the geometry of said bucket.
Thanks Mark! This is an awesome solution to dust collection. I did as another guy did and angled my pvc fitting in the lid slightly downward and sealed the lid for a better vacuum. If you want to get a little fancier for about a dollar or two more, cut a small slit about an inch wide and 3 or 4 inches long towards the top of the bucket and hot glue a piece of plexiglass it in from the inside. Now you have a sight glass to know when your bucket is filling up. Thanks again Mark!
Made it. Works great. One tip: it doesn't work if the bucket falls over, so you might want to put a base on it to prevent it from tipping. You should also try to get the most flexible hose you can. A stiff hose makes it more likely to tip over.
I love that this design is so much simpler than others I've seen. No wood blocks cut out in the middle, no bs worrying about coupling random vacuum pieces, just straight up pvc glued in. From what I understand, I'll probably put the top piece centered on the lid for slightly better suction.
Built one very similar to this about 10 years ago,used 2 " pvc fittings,installed in the lid, same style fittinds,just measure 2". it has worked great ! Glad you showed this to everyone .
@@robertjacques6468 Works well, but I have a small piece of chain screwed to the side of mine drapes down and lays on the floor, this will stop you getting any nasty static shocks that you really don't want....ask me how I know 😩😟🥺..ha ha ...happy building.
Thx for taking the time to share this. The magic is the 45 deg pipe for the inlet. That was quite clever. What a time saver. Adding the second 45 and centering the outlet is the final ticket. Hmm adding that additional 45 is going to jack the price up another 75c. Thx again.
This is smart, cheep, easy to build and most importantly, it works. I know because I have build the same exact contraption and have been using it for the past four years. Today I was looking in UA-cam for a way to improve it but seeing this video has changed my mind. Simple is best! All you really need is that 45 degree fitting on the side of the bucket to make the cyclone effect. Good going Mark! I like the way you think!
made this in the exact same way yesterday. watched a fair few of these videos and so many are seriously over engineered... this one is super simple and it works. Thanks for sharing Mark Susak.EDIT... I did slightly angle the side insert downwards in the bucket a couple of degrees in the hope it would keep a little bit more debri away from the top vacuum insert.
This works INCREDIBLY well. My local hardware stores didn't have the correct size PVC so I had to improvise. I used 2 dust control flex cuffs with hose clamps. I inserted the PVC pipe and tightened for an air-tight seal then hot glued all the seams. I was shocked to see how well it worked. You're awesome!
Hi Mark, I made mine from an old drywall bucket (free) and used old (also free) swimming pool fittings and hose. I did however put both the inlet and outlet thru the top which makes it MUCH more convenient to empty the bucket. I also added a coffee can with a hole in the bottom, upside down, inside the bucket, around the connection to the vacuum, which was centered in the top. This increased the cyclone swirl effect and kept the dust from 'shortcutting' it's way to the vacuum. It works GREAT and it cost ZERO. Yea, you have to empty it when it gets 3 - 5" full but it's very easy to do and greatly saves having to service the shop vac. Thanks for the idea.
I agree running both through the top for ease of emptying. I think I will try the same thing only add a 4 or 5 inch straight piece to the 45 for the intake so its down in the bucket a few inches. I can't wait to try this.
I had all the items for this build in my workshop. The bucket was 1 that was used for wine making in the past now has a new lease of life. I did use a 90 degree fitting for the inlet instead of 45 degree fit, it work just as well My home made cyclone was a bargain. Thanks for making this video
Thanks so much for this! I live in an apartment so I don't have a shop and I do most of my woodworking out on the balcony when it's not freezing nor raining. The limited space means I don't have room for a shopvac, but I'm slowly ruining my normal household vacuum every time I collect sawdust. This intermediary will undoubtedly extend the life of my normal vacuum and when not in use I can use the bucket as storage for the hoses and other tools. Really an ideal DIY, thank you for sharing!
Mark, thank you for this! The only question/feedback I had was giving advice on the measurements. I had to run around the big-box store until I found someone who knew how to handle PVC pipes (since I had no idea.) For those wondering about numbers: If the hose opening of your shopvac measures 1 inch, you should look for a 1 and a quarter inch PVC pipe to connect with and insert into the bucket. Thanks again and have a great day.
Worked like a charm. My first run wasn't so hot so I applied bathroom sticky tape around the inside of the lid to get a better vacuum and it made all the difference in the world. Hardly any sawdust got by the super "Mark Susak" cyclone. Thanks Mark.
Assuming that it does work as demonstrated (and there is no reason not to believe that it does) this it the BEST (= easiest to make, cheapest, efficient) dust collection system I have EVER seen, period! Surely by experimenting with the IN/OUT tube diameter, length and placement as well as the overall height of the bucket plus the power of the vacuum, you can increase efficiency to be close to 99% which is what the professionally made models claim but at a much heftier price. But even at ~96% I'm happy, so I am definitely sold, and thank you so much (a thousand times), I am making one for sure! Mark you da man !!!
reminds me of the drywall dust collector I came up with. but I called it the "Bong", because I used water (wet dirt don't fly), and both holes were on the lid with one tube barely going into the lid (going to Shop Vac), and the other tube just into the water. (hence the term "Bong", Hookah if you like LOL). It was a bit messy, but my Shop Vac was not eaten alive by all the drywall dust.
Absolute genius. Saved me from clicking that buy button on Glamazon and spending $70+ for something with not-so-good reviews. You're my hero! I love making stuff that saves me money anyways, so thanks again.
I like your delivery, very awesome. It was quick and you kept my attention --- also using the scale and giving us the percentage efficiency was perfect .
Excellent tutorial and the part about the cyclone effect on the bucket: first time I saw that being explained so simple manner and easy to understand! Thanks mate!
An Aussie accent that sounds like you live just up the track, a bucket of briliance and proper sawdust. Works exactly the same as the homemade paint bucket pond filter the pobblebonks are raving about out the front. Beaut!
Not really, this is one of the worst. Even his measurements are embarrassing, no pre measure, no taring, etc. Kinda goes with his poor build quality. Several much better ones like ua-cam.com/video/1WnitgYFnE0/v-deo.html and here's a much better measuring video ua-cam.com/video/S5ryW5Fm_Sc/v-deo.html
Mate....I built it...after watching a tonne of cyclone vacuum dust collection garbage.....THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION.! cheap, nasty and works really well, so well it sucked a piece of melamine that stuck in the hose and cracked the plastic bucket.!!!! nothing a bit of gaffa tape didn't fix.! Mark - awesome aussie ingenuity ......
My poor over worked vac filter thanks you. Dust has become an issue now for me and after some research I cans do this with stuff I got lying around. Thanks for sharing
Im about to buy a table saw and have been looking at dust collection. This is just the job, even if buying a bucket and hose new, it's still a better deal. Thanks for posting this video, has saved me some £££.
Thanks, I have buckets & lots if pvc fittings, A glue gun I got it all and ill make this as soon as I figure out how to convert every thing back to the small hose.. Sure is easy.
Another great bucket source is any swimming pool owner the does the maintenance themselves. I've got a stack 8' high of very sturdy chlorine bucks with locking lids. I am always happy to off load some. Well done, and thank you for a simple version. 97% is excellent when you consider that the over-enginered versions with fancy baffles and connectors that take hours to build are only slightly more effective
That is effin' inspirationally cheap. I love it! Having a small shop and an even smaller budget, I shall be making this type of cyclone, for sure. Nocely done mate.
I'd use a 90 degree fitting on the inlet and extend it down to around two inches off the bottom of the bucket. Then add four to six inches of water to the bucket. You'll get exhaust from the bucket that has no dust in it whatsoever. Clean ups a little more trouble but you won't be spreading dust around the shop. You can cut out the bucket by simply converting the shop vac in this way and you end up with the equivalent of a three hundred dollar factory model rainbow vacuum.
In order to increase efficiency you want to make the inlet (exactly) tangential to the edge of the container. The sawdust namely falls down based on friction, and the tangentiality causes for a soft catch rather than a bounce against the wall; slowing down the dust more.
You should almost just use a straight pipe and insert it into the bucket at a tangent. That'd make the cutting a bit more difficult... I think I'll try that!
@@Kenjaiz if you could cut the pipe on an angle and cut the hole as an ellipse to match, it would work better. i think doing this for as cheap as possible, most people probably dont have the skill or tools to do that kind of stuff cleanly. i definitely dont , thats why im looking at DIY cyclones :P
Thanks Mark! I was just going to search this up to build and your video showed up on my subscription list. Almost spooky, nice and simple but does what it is intended to do. Thanks, Bill
I will definitely build one of these for my shop this weekend. Thanks for the tutorial! I may sandwich the lid with some scrap plywood and cut both holes from the top rather than one on the side. I can use a small piece of pvc to direct the dust further down and along the edge of the bucket and away from the exhaust pipe, and keep the exhaust pipe short within the bucket and at the center.
Thank you for posting this easy, cheap but very effective project. Just made my own,works great! I’ve found that 6 mm chisel works great for making the holes
Definite thumbs up for the cheapest, simplest design. I saw some other video showing the efficiency of this type of design and while it is good when it is empty, it decreases dramatically when it is at 25% and obviously even more at 50% full. So with the cheapness also comes more work of frequent emptying to maintain decent efficiency.
This simple, yet cost effective addition to my occasional use hobby work shop, might be a little less efficient than other versions but it is easy to make and more importantly cheap. THANK YOU!
Yep. Just having a second slurp at a pile of sawdust when it clogged. BRRAPP! it goes. Cut a disc of 9 mm ply to fit the drum half way down. Now it goes 'plop' , but the dust still by-passes from in to out.
Try one of the green 45 degree connectors you find in the electrical section. They provide a longer and smoother transition to the inner curve of the bucket. I'd put a schedule 40 sharp 90 degree bend through the bucket and then attach the green 45 degree connector to that on the inside. I'd also cut the bottom out of one bucket, stack it on top of another, and glue and/or duct tape them together. Thanks for the great concept to avoid a hefty cyclone tax.
I just built one of my own. I centered the inlet in the lid, and 45°on the side. The shop vac I purchased has a bag in it and comes with 2 filters. Plenty enough to keep dust out of the exhaust and the bucket collects the majority of the dust and debris. My shop is in the back of my truck, so this was amazing and so much cheaper. Only issue I have is the hose from the side whistles under suction, its ridiculous loud, but I can save my airways.
Ha I've also got a bucket dust separator! I've chopped up a traffic cone and siliconed it on top to give the classic cyclone separator effect After 3 months on a cnc router the bucket is half full and no observable evidence in the vacuum itself Agree they work well!
Good low cost DIY. The top outlet hole would work better in the center of the lid. A sharper angel from a 90 degree elbow on the side inlet would create a better cyclone.
Thank you so much for this video. I made mine for about 4 bucks due to adaptors and it works AMAZING. Also, if you're swapping media in your blast cabinet, just suck it all up and the media will collect in the bucket. Even course grade soda. I tend to swap between walnut shells and aluminum oxide alot.
You can pay around 150 quid for one in the UK. 30 quid for the "kit" to make your own. A smarter version of those plumbing connectors and some clips. Good work, that man!
Just made mine based off this video and it works great! I've watched a whole bunch of DIY videos and some of them get pretty complex. This was dirt cheap and super easy so I decided to just do that and it works great! I think I spent less than $10 not including the shop vac.
Hey buddy, I’m a few years late to this video because there is thousands of cyclone videos. You said something that should be first and foremost in every woodworkers mind whether building a cyclone or piano: “It’s not Rocket Science!” Having been a rocket scientist for a few days (my wife will never let me forget the pulse jet fiasco) I can attest to keep it simple. One last thing, I never expected that voice to come from a youngster like you. Ever thought of being on the radio? Take care, Bruce God save the King
each 90 deg connection make the airflow worse. 45 are much better. Actually even conneting 2 x 45 to each other is still better, as the airflow does two 45 deg corners better than one 90 - which slows it down significantly. Of course for a small project like this it wouldn't make that big of a difference, but any dust collection system would suffer. Also keeping as little flex hose as possible is a good practice, limiting the ribbed surface slowing down the airflow.
Heat the bucket up with a heat gun if you have one, and use a hole smaller than the fitting. Also, if you have an extra crevice nozzle around, you can make a rectangular hole instead of a round one. Also, hook blades for utility knives make cutting buckets quite easy!
Very simple improvement.. Yes, center the top hose, and also, if you add a second 45* angle to the inside intake(where sawdust goes in) to keep the debris closer to the curve of the bucket, your efficiency goes up.. I tried to figure out the angle to include here, but I grew a tail and ran in circles like a neurotic dog. You want it close to parallel, a hair pointed downwards. When I tried to make a larger one using a steel garbage can, I found a thin piece of plastic(like a tub surround) inside the can helped immensely, the particles kept up their speed like they are supposed to, slowing down as they got closer to the bottom. This "airstream" keeps even fine particles out of the shopvac or larger filtration system.. Last but not least, for that extra mile, a bucket about 2-4 inches high half filled with water kept everything out. A 5lb bag of flour and I got zero particles when I tapped my shopvac filter on dark brown paper. Change the water often, sludge doesn't work, and you don't want mold, so clean it daily.
I tried this. I used the flour and water like you suggested but I must be doing something wrong. When I opened it up later, there was a fully cooked fresh pizza in there.
to put it simply its called 'flow dynamics" its why you want a bending of the current (be it water or air) and not a wall it slams into and then has to turn...
I'm building mine now and have cut a viewing slot in my bucket. 1/2" W x 7" H and hot glued a piece of clear plexiglass over it. Used my heat gun first, to actually bend a slight curve in the P glass to match up w/the bucket's bend. I'm not done with the project yet but I assume I'll be able to watch as my bucket gets full and know when to stop, clean it out.
I'll bet this would also be useful for people who have central vacuum cleaning systems; anything to lengthen the time between filter-cleanings or bag changings will save effort and possibly money.
If you don't have a drill, file, or saw, there is very little chance you will be making a dust separator. Nice to know that this cheap simple design can be so effcient, thanks for sharing.
Yes, you could need a drill, file or saw, but since you don't have one, you probably would not need a dust cyclone. Why would someone with no tools, build a dust cyclone? I can think of a few, but they are very unlikely.
I have put this on my bucket list
Hahahaha good one.
My God you're really pushing the boat out!, my list is slightly more ambitious ...Although I agree with your logic, and will do one myself...😜👍
That's the first thing on my bucket list....Getting a Bucket
LOL
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This sucks ...
Yesterday I watch your video, today I went to buy the elbows, got a bucket and put it together in 20 minutes. It works like a charm.
Hope you read this and known that you make some dude in Argentina extremely happy.
Thanks Julian! Happy woodworking :)
Finally, someone that weighed their dust sample!
And what does it tell you?
@@PatchworxStudios Tells you how much dust is actually making it into the vacuum.
@@JoeBlow-24 But it doesnt doesn't tell you how much micro particles came through and those are the dangerous ones. To sort out the big junk is not a problem. Actually bought and made me the same system and I can tell you you still need a bag a filter and an air cleaner for the Dangerous dust. Most of the reviews on UA-cam are lacking Proper testing.
@@PatchworxStudios who's to say there isn't a hepa filter on the vacuum? It seems to me the focus of this test is to separate as much bulk as possible. In that regard this cheap solution was a success.
@@JoeBlow-24 There was a statement about clogging up the filter slower but still it's the fine dust that will clog it. I am not against the idea for I am using it myself. What i wanted to say is that it somewhat useless to weight the dust because it is not representative for the efficiency of a cyclone. Even a poorly made one has a very high efficiency if you measure it like this. By the way those Bucket builds are just not even close to a proper cyclone cause of the geometry of said bucket.
This saved me a huge headache. I've almost bought a dust collection system 1000x. Glad I found the video. Worked perfect!
that was a good tip about drilling on a curved surface. Very thoughtful and considerate of you to mention that. good to see caring people out there.
Thanks Mark! This is an awesome solution to dust collection. I did as another guy did and angled my pvc fitting in the lid slightly downward and sealed the lid for a better vacuum. If you want to get a little fancier for about a dollar or two more, cut a small slit about an inch wide and 3 or 4 inches long towards the top of the bucket and hot glue a piece of plexiglass it in from the inside. Now you have a sight glass to know when your bucket is filling up. Thanks again Mark!
Made it. Works great. One tip: it doesn't work if the bucket falls over, so you might want to put a base on it to prevent it from tipping. You should also try to get the most flexible hose you can. A stiff hose makes it more likely to tip over.
I love that this design is so much simpler than others I've seen. No wood blocks cut out in the middle, no bs worrying about coupling random vacuum pieces, just straight up pvc glued in. From what I understand, I'll probably put the top piece centered on the lid for slightly better suction.
The other guys at least read about it before building. There is a reason for all that extra steps.
Built one very similar to this about 10 years ago,used 2 " pvc fittings,installed in the lid, same style fittinds,just measure 2". it has worked great ! Glad you showed this to everyone .
Dude this really worked? On it tomorrow
@@robertjacques6468 Works well, but I have a small piece of chain screwed to the side of mine drapes down and lays on the floor, this will stop you getting any nasty static shocks that you really don't want....ask me how I know 😩😟🥺..ha ha ...happy building.
Thx for taking the time to share this. The magic is the 45 deg pipe for the inlet. That was quite clever. What a time saver. Adding the second 45 and centering the outlet is the final ticket. Hmm adding that additional 45 is going to jack the price up another 75c.
Thx again.
This is smart, cheep, easy to build and most importantly, it works.
I know because I have build the same exact contraption and have been using it for the past four years. Today I was looking in UA-cam for a way to improve it but seeing this video has changed my mind.
Simple is best! All you really need is that 45 degree fitting on the side of the bucket to make the cyclone effect.
Good going Mark!
I like the way you think!
Thanks for the kind words!
Hi If I am trying this does the pvc have to be the same size as my vacuum hose fitting ? thoughts please thank you
made this in the exact same way yesterday. watched a fair few of these videos and so many are seriously over engineered... this one is super simple and it works. Thanks for sharing Mark Susak.EDIT... I did slightly angle the side insert downwards in the bucket a couple of degrees in the hope it would keep a little bit more debri away from the top vacuum insert.
This works INCREDIBLY well. My local hardware stores didn't have the correct size PVC so I had to improvise. I used 2 dust control flex cuffs with hose clamps. I inserted the PVC pipe and tightened for an air-tight seal then hot glued all the seams. I was shocked to see how well it worked. You're awesome!
Thanks for the great tip. Drill $75, bit $10, bucket $10, pvc pipes $2, hot glue gun $30, sharpie $1= $128. Not bad
Hi Mark, I made mine from an old drywall bucket (free) and used old (also free) swimming pool fittings and hose. I did however put both the inlet and outlet thru the top which makes it MUCH more convenient to empty the bucket. I also added a coffee can with a hole in the bottom, upside down, inside the bucket, around the connection to the vacuum, which was centered in the top. This increased the cyclone swirl effect and kept the dust from 'shortcutting' it's way to the vacuum. It works GREAT and it cost ZERO.
Yea, you have to empty it when it gets 3 - 5" full but it's very easy to do and greatly saves having to service the shop vac.
Thanks for the idea.
I agree running both through the top for ease of emptying. I think I will try the same thing only add a 4 or 5 inch straight piece to the 45 for the intake so its down in the bucket a few inches. I can't wait to try this.
Love this solution, especially the coffee can idea. One of the larger ones would work best, I imagine. Cheers!
I had all the items for this build in my workshop. The bucket was 1 that was used for wine making in the past now has a new lease of life. I did use a 90 degree fitting for the inlet instead of 45 degree fit, it work just as well My home made cyclone was a bargain. Thanks for making this video
Thanks so much for this! I live in an apartment so I don't have a shop and I do most of my woodworking out on the balcony when it's not freezing nor raining. The limited space means I don't have room for a shopvac, but I'm slowly ruining my normal household vacuum every time I collect sawdust. This intermediary will undoubtedly extend the life of my normal vacuum and when not in use I can use the bucket as storage for the hoses and other tools. Really an ideal DIY, thank you for sharing!
Thanks Nathalie and I hope it works great!
Maybe one of those small wall-mounted Shopvacs would work for you?
Mark, thank you for this! The only question/feedback I had was giving advice on the measurements. I had to run around the big-box store until I found someone who knew how to handle PVC pipes (since I had no idea.)
For those wondering about numbers:
If the hose opening of your shopvac measures 1 inch, you should look for a 1 and a quarter inch PVC pipe to connect with and insert into the bucket.
Thanks again and have a great day.
Worked like a charm. My first run wasn't so hot so I applied bathroom sticky tape around the inside of the lid to get a better vacuum and it made all the difference in the world. Hardly any sawdust got by the super "Mark Susak" cyclone. Thanks Mark.
Assuming that it does work as demonstrated (and there is no reason not to believe that it does) this it the BEST (= easiest to make, cheapest, efficient) dust collection system I have EVER seen, period! Surely by experimenting with the IN/OUT tube diameter, length and placement as well as the overall height of the bucket plus the power of the vacuum, you can increase efficiency to be close to 99% which is what the professionally made models claim but at a much heftier price. But even at ~96% I'm happy, so I am definitely sold, and thank you so much (a thousand times), I am making one for sure! Mark you da man !!!
Installed this on my blasting cabinet. It works absolutely GREAT! 👌🏽 Great and very cheap solution.
reminds me of the drywall dust collector I came up with. but I called it the "Bong", because I used water (wet dirt don't fly), and both holes were on the lid with one tube barely going into the lid (going to Shop Vac), and the other tube just into the water. (hence the term "Bong", Hookah if you like LOL). It was a bit messy, but my Shop Vac was not eaten alive by all the drywall dust.
Absolute genius. Saved me from clicking that buy button on Glamazon and spending $70+ for something with not-so-good reviews. You're my hero! I love making stuff that saves me money anyways, so thanks again.
Makes great sense. Amazingly not over engineered (thought). Not everyone can think like this. Congratulations and thanks!!
Excellent proof of concept, weighing the dust before & after. Very convincing. Thanks!
I like your delivery, very awesome. It was quick and you kept my attention --- also using the scale and giving us the percentage efficiency was perfect .
I made one of these. It works brilliantly thank you, and so much easier than cutting and attaching baffles.
I like the fact that you weighed the results. Pretty impressive.
Excellent tutorial and the part about the cyclone effect on the bucket: first time I saw that being explained so simple manner and easy to understand! Thanks mate!
An Aussie accent that sounds like you live just up the track, a bucket of briliance and proper sawdust. Works exactly the same as the homemade paint bucket pond filter the pobblebonks are raving about out the front. Beaut!
This is THE BEST video on UA-cam for this project! Well done mate!
Not really, this is one of the worst. Even his measurements are embarrassing, no pre measure, no taring, etc. Kinda goes with his poor build quality. Several much better ones like ua-cam.com/video/1WnitgYFnE0/v-deo.html
and here's a much better measuring video ua-cam.com/video/S5ryW5Fm_Sc/v-deo.html
Been watching a few different methods and yours seem to be so much simpler and direct. Gonna be trying this method tomorrow and post afterwards
Mate....I built it...after watching a tonne of cyclone vacuum dust collection garbage.....THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION.! cheap, nasty and works really well, so well it sucked a piece of melamine that stuck in the hose and cracked the plastic bucket.!!!! nothing a bit of gaffa tape didn't fix.! Mark - awesome aussie ingenuity ......
Followed your step by step instructions, got a Nice Cyclone out of it!! Thanks
My poor over worked vac filter thanks you.
Dust has become an issue now for me and after some research I cans do this with stuff I got lying around.
Thanks for sharing
Im about to buy a table saw and have been looking at dust collection. This is just the job, even if buying a bucket and hose new, it's still a better deal. Thanks for posting this video, has saved me some £££.
Thanks, I have buckets & lots if pvc fittings, A glue gun I got it all and ill make this as soon as I figure out how to convert every thing back to the small hose.. Sure is easy.
Built this tonight it works great. Thanks for the video
Another great bucket source is any swimming pool owner the does the maintenance themselves. I've got a stack 8' high of very sturdy chlorine bucks with locking lids. I am always happy to off load some.
Well done, and thank you for a simple version. 97% is excellent when you consider that the over-enginered versions with fancy baffles and connectors that take hours to build are only slightly more effective
just built 2 of them this weekend...super easy...very effective...thank you for posting this video....
That is effin' inspirationally cheap. I love it! Having a small shop and an even smaller budget, I shall be making this type of cyclone, for sure. Nocely done mate.
Simple and economic, absolutely brilliant.
I made one based on your easy instructions. Works perfect. I just need to build a rolling Base for the two to sit on. Thanks
I'd use a 90 degree fitting on the inlet and extend it down to around two inches off the bottom of the bucket. Then add four to six inches of water to the bucket. You'll get exhaust from the bucket that has no dust in it whatsoever. Clean ups a little more trouble but you won't be spreading dust around the shop. You can cut out the bucket by simply converting the shop vac in this way and you end up with the equivalent of a three hundred dollar factory model rainbow vacuum.
Thanks for taking the time to weigh the dust. I hate not knowing how effective a project is.
In order to increase efficiency you want to make the inlet (exactly) tangential to the edge of the container. The sawdust namely falls down based on friction, and the tangentiality causes for a soft catch rather than a bounce against the wall; slowing down the dust more.
You should almost just use a straight pipe and insert it into the bucket at a tangent. That'd make the cutting a bit more difficult... I think I'll try that!
@@Kenjaiz if you could cut the pipe on an angle and cut the hole as an ellipse to match, it would work better. i think doing this for as cheap as possible, most people probably dont have the skill or tools to do that kind of stuff cleanly. i definitely dont , thats why im looking at DIY cyclones :P
Thanks Mark! I was just going to search this up to build and your video showed up on my subscription list. Almost spooky, nice and simple but does what it is intended to do. Thanks, Bill
+Yellowdog Welding awesome! Glad you like it Bill!
You just saved me $100. Thanks Mark, champion effort!
Beautiful. Just beautiful. Bravo, mate . . .
Great video, I went to Bunnings and spend around $20, as the buck was rather expensive, but this works like a treat, much appreciated mate!
You are so smart to make it efficiency.
I will definitely build one of these for my shop this weekend. Thanks for the tutorial! I may sandwich the lid with some scrap plywood and cut both holes from the top rather than one on the side. I can use a small piece of pvc to direct the dust further down and along the edge of the bucket and away from the exhaust pipe, and keep the exhaust pipe short within the bucket and at the center.
Good job mate. Too easy....works great! I can't believe the complex designs others have made when yours works so well for bugger all cost.
If you have to buy a drill for this, you don’t need one of these. Not just the cheapest but by far the easiest setup I’ve seen.
Thank you for posting this easy, cheap but very effective project. Just made my own,works great! I’ve found that 6 mm chisel works great for making the holes
Definite thumbs up for the cheapest, simplest design. I saw some other video showing the efficiency of this type of design and while it is good when it is empty, it decreases dramatically when it is at 25% and obviously even more at 50% full. So with the cheapness also comes more work of frequent emptying to maintain decent efficiency.
This simple, yet cost effective addition to my occasional use hobby work shop, might be a little less efficient than other versions but it is easy to make and more importantly cheap. THANK YOU!
I knew there had to be a less expensive and technical way to do that. Thanks.
Thank very much young fellow your a good lad. Not many like you that seem to care anymore. God bless you from an old bloke.
Love the simplicity!! Thanks!!
Utilizar una lima para madera para rebajar o pulir el plástico lo dice todo! Bravo! Veri chapu!
I tried with a similar bucket, works a treat. Just don't block the air-flow or the bucket collapses with a bang that will scare the wits out of you.
nlo114 guessing you found that out the hard way? 😂
Yep. Just having a second slurp at a pile of sawdust when it clogged. BRRAPP! it goes. Cut a disc of 9 mm ply to fit the drum half way down. Now it goes 'plop' , but the dust still by-passes from in to out.
Hahaha! Love the sound effects. Seemed so real.
Nia Jax goes BRAPP sometimes, too
Did you post it on UA-cam
Not bad at all! To induce a more effective cyclone within the bucket, try placing the exit port dead center in the lid. Cheers mate
What have I just found?! Thank you for the great post! I'm planning to build a small workshop shed and this may just save space and money! Thank you
Hi this must be the simplest method and cheapest on UA-cam I will have a go at making this project this morning
Try one of the green 45 degree connectors you find in the electrical section. They provide a longer and smoother transition to the inner curve of the bucket. I'd put a schedule 40 sharp 90 degree bend through the bucket and then attach the green 45 degree connector to that on the inside. I'd also cut the bottom out of one bucket, stack it on top of another, and glue and/or duct tape them together. Thanks for the great concept to avoid a hefty cyclone tax.
Earl Wallace
Mark- I followed your directions and the dust collection system works perfectly. Thank you.
I just built one of my own. I centered the inlet in the lid, and 45°on the side. The shop vac I purchased has a bag in it and comes with 2 filters. Plenty enough to keep dust out of the exhaust and the bucket collects the majority of the dust and debris. My shop is in the back of my truck, so this was amazing and so much cheaper. Only issue I have is the hose from the side whistles under suction, its ridiculous loud, but I can save my airways.
What size fittings did you use?
Ha I've also got a bucket dust separator!
I've chopped up a traffic cone and siliconed it on top to give the classic cyclone separator effect
After 3 months on a cnc router the bucket is half full and no observable evidence in the vacuum itself
Agree they work well!
looked at a lot of videos and this is definitely what i am using for my indoor vac system with a 16 gallon shop vac! thanks!
Glad I could have helped!
finally a straight forward build with good enough results. I'm definitely going to build one or more of these.
Good low cost DIY. The top outlet hole would work better in the center of the lid. A sharper angel from a 90 degree elbow on the side inlet would create a better cyclone.
Thank you! Simple, smart, direct to the point. Great video!
Excellent video. Straight-to-the-point. Look forward to seeing more of your videos
Im so excited to make this! Thank you
The best and cheapest of them all and right up my street easy as....thanks
Thank you so much for this video. I made mine for about 4 bucks due to adaptors and it works AMAZING.
Also, if you're swapping media in your blast cabinet, just suck it all up and the media will collect in the bucket. Even course grade soda. I tend to swap between walnut shells and aluminum oxide alot.
Bloody easy. Have been looking for a lazy way to clean my driveway of dust and leaves. This would work perfect - THANK YOU.
Thanks Mark. I have several buckets left over from winter ice spray. I am making presents for all my woodworking mates.
You can pay around 150 quid for one in the UK.
30 quid for the "kit" to make your own. A smarter version of those plumbing connectors and some clips.
Good work, that man!
Interesting idea. I may have to try it.
i knew something like this could be cheap and easy, thank you for demonstrating it!
I believe that is a 30 degree elbow, which is the angle you want to help create the cyclone effect. Thanks for the tip and the savings.
Just made mine based off this video and it works great! I've watched a whole bunch of DIY videos and some of them get pretty complex. This was dirt cheap and super easy so I decided to just do that and it works great! I think I spent less than $10 not including the shop vac.
I like your design.
Simple, straightforward, and inexpensive to build.
Well done!
Pick me up on your way down
Great. Watched other videos, over complicated, sophisticated tools, etc. This is simple, cheap and apparently works.
Thanks Nic! it really does. Such a simple idea
Hey buddy, I’m a few years late to this video because there is thousands of cyclone videos. You said something that should be first and foremost in every woodworkers mind whether building a cyclone or piano: “It’s not Rocket Science!”
Having been a rocket scientist for a few days (my wife will never let me forget the pulse jet fiasco) I can attest to keep it simple.
One last thing, I never expected that voice to come from a youngster like you. Ever thought of being on the radio?
Take care, Bruce
God save the King
Thanks Bruce!
I’ve thought of it, but the Aussie accent isn’t popular around the world haha. All the best in the workshop be safe!
Solid mate. Keep it on the cheap and get on with it. Cheers.
One small suggestion - that you use swept 90 deg. bends to maximise airflow, and the connecting hoses fit easier. Nice vid, useful, thanks.
each 90 deg connection make the airflow worse. 45 are much better. Actually even conneting 2 x 45 to each other is still better, as the airflow does two 45 deg corners better than one 90 - which slows it down significantly. Of course for a small project like this it wouldn't make that big of a difference, but any dust collection system would suffer. Also keeping as little flex hose as possible is a good practice, limiting the ribbed surface slowing down the airflow.
nice , I hate spending money where not necessary.
Heat the bucket up with a heat gun if you have one, and use a hole smaller than the fitting. Also, if you have an extra crevice nozzle around, you can make a rectangular hole instead of a round one. Also, hook blades for utility knives make cutting buckets quite easy!
Very simple improvement.. Yes, center the top hose, and also, if you add a second 45* angle to the inside intake(where sawdust goes in) to keep the debris closer to the curve of the bucket, your efficiency goes up.. I tried to figure out the angle to include here, but I grew a tail and ran in circles like a neurotic dog. You want it close to parallel, a hair pointed downwards. When I tried to make a larger one using a steel garbage can, I found a thin piece of plastic(like a tub surround) inside the can helped immensely, the particles kept up their speed like they are supposed to, slowing down as they got closer to the bottom. This "airstream" keeps even fine particles out of the shopvac or larger filtration system.. Last but not least, for that extra mile, a bucket about 2-4 inches high half filled with water kept everything out. A 5lb bag of flour and I got zero particles when I tapped my shopvac filter on dark brown paper. Change the water often, sludge doesn't work, and you don't want mold, so clean it daily.
P Huster thank you. May need diagram.
Why not just make 2 of these buckets and put them in line?? Seems way easier.
I tried this. I used the flour and water like you suggested but I must be doing something wrong. When I opened it up later, there was a fully cooked fresh pizza in there.
Instead of a 45 why not use a 90 to push the incoming air against the side more?
to put it simply its called 'flow dynamics" its why you want a bending of the current (be it water or air) and not a wall it slams into and then has to turn...
I'm building mine now and have cut a viewing slot in my bucket. 1/2" W x 7" H and hot glued a piece of clear plexiglass over it. Used my heat gun first, to actually bend a slight curve in the P glass to match up w/the bucket's bend. I'm not done with the project yet but I assume I'll be able to watch as my bucket gets full and know when to stop, clean it out.
I just finished working on my dust collector. And work great!
Wow! Thank you Mark, Will definitely do this, you've just saved me a lot of money. 👍
This is awesome. I work with cyclone and micro-cyclone equipment in manufacturing and it really is that simple. ;)
It really is!!
I'll bet this would also be useful for people who have central vacuum cleaning systems; anything to lengthen the time between filter-cleanings or bag changings will save effort and possibly money.
If you don't have a drill, file, or saw, there is very little chance you will be making a dust separator. Nice to know that this cheap simple design can be so effcient, thanks for sharing.
edvard brown / If you don't have a drill, file or saw, there is very little chance you will need one??
Yes, you could need a drill, file or saw, but since you don't have one, you probably would not need a dust cyclone. Why would someone with no tools, build a dust cyclone? I can think of a few, but they are very unlikely.
Very great information! Thank a lots!
Have a great day :)
Thanks for sharing this brilliant idea !
Now, let's go and find a buket .... 🤔😋