A tough new gearbox is required // Marty's WRX STI
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- Subaru 5 speed Gearboxes have a reputation of being weak, a few launches and they are often exploded into a thousand pieces. A 6 speed gearbox out of a newer STI is an excellent upgrade and in this episode with the help of our mate Benny (aka Mechanical Stig) we swap in an entire driveline into Marty's 1999 2 Door WRX STI.
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Hello from the states guys can't wait for you to return for more awesome content
I just wanted to know if ye would send me stickers if not at least I asked
Hey guys, my last shipping update was may 16. Is there any other way to track my order to Canada?
@@pking6021 shoot us an email we'll check on it for you!
I get home working 9 hours as a mechanic, do a side job, work on my own car, and sit down to watch someone else do what I do for a living... I've never asked myself why until now.
Inception
also did that and now i miss being an actual mechanic and work on my car...miss that
@@cenourattis why not anymore a mechanic?
I do the same. But I'm in lawncare.
So it's truly watching the grass grow...if its in your blood you are kinda obsessed.
yesss, I know they have their own channels now but I have missed the Bennie, Turbo Yoda etc. colabs!
Truuuuuue. Feel like that could also be more reason for colabs now though
It's always nice to see Benny giving some time to help out, He's a legend.
He's a Subaru guru not just a legend 😁 as much much as moog hates to admit it. Essentially Subaru has made the channel what it is 😁 moog secretly loves them too
Is he,do you know him personally....
It’s amazing how easy this all looks like from your armchair holding a beer.....
It isn't easy being an arm chair mechanic! The real struggle is having to get up and grab another beer 😂
It's the only time I get t see a dismantled car with my hands being clean.
Or how clean these cars are one bolt will take hours living in the north east
"Marty and Moog make it look so easy!"
4 days later: "Be a car guy, they said. It'll be fun, they said. I swear to God if I hit my knuckles one more time you'll be able to see bone through the skin. Who thought it was a good idea to design it this way? How am I supposed to reach that bolt? I should just buy a new car"
If you like this kind of armchair engineering, check out bad obsession motorsport. It’s crazy!!
I literally just bought a six speed for my bc5 legacy 2 days ago this is going to help a lot
you're gonna love it!
only the STI 6 speed is any good. the standard 6 speed is junk like the 5 speeds.
imoo vabull I’ve got a v6 prodrive pack 6 speed to through in
I've got a v7 STI 6 speed I'm about to swap into my bc6 legacy!
I'd love to get one for my BG Outback.
No one :
Video: GREEN
I thought it was my phone
Yeah the occasional flash of green.
It's probably some currupted files in the video, I reckon they decides to post it anyway so the we at least got a video
@@MoggzyGaming my flashes were not occasional, they came about once every four to five seconds.
I didnt have any such flashes myself.
I love seeing them drive that short road and going around those 2 roundabouts for those intro clips. People who know that road know how short it is.
Heh, yeah in the vid it's like the background is on a short loop :)
As someone who lives in the salty climate of Minnesnowta, I can only be jealous of those who dont...working on rusted cars is a serious PITA.
Some from Wisconsin hahaha
We know your pain,
sincerely,
Canadians.
I live in Alberta, Canada and a couple weeks ago I was working on a 3 year old truck that had a bunch of bolts seized with rust. It's brutal!
Here in Maine also...
Broken bolts everywhere. Seized bolts everywhere else. I hate NY.
It's crazy how once you've pulled apart one Subaru of this era, you've pulled apart them all. Mad video lads.
They were ahead of the curve in global platform manufacture well before this decade where others have followed, though not all 6spds from Subaru are the same, the STi gear has a much shorter throw than a WRX or the std 6spd from any Legacy or other model, so the boys aren’t 100% correct there and it is stronger than the std 6spd, part of why an STI costs more, it’s not just a badge courage like riding the town bike!
@@maverick2242 the main problem with the 5 speed subie transmissions is the case and the small gear size, all the six speed transmissions from this era share the case and gear size, which are much bigger than the 5 speed, so any 6 speed is waaayyy better in almost every way from the era, even the legacy one is as strong as the sti one because the 6 speed legacy trans only came with the ez30 engine from the spec-b versions
@@maverick2242 I mean...I can bolt the trans from a 2004 GTI into a 1977 golf. It's not something new.
Hondas are pretty much the same. Especially late 80s/early 90s. You can kinda take bits from one and put them on another for easy bolt on upgrades. Take Integra suspension bits and put them on a Civic, you'll get good results. I've got a project Honda, first gen Integra. Engine is a D16A3 which has the same bottom end as the EK Civic. Cheap to build a bottom end, but DOHC 16 valve head as opposed to a SOHC 12 valve with VTEC. Throw in the 5th gear from '85 Accord and the factory LSD from a '92 Civic and bam. Hillclimb monster with short gears 1-4 and a tall enough 5th to crack 200km/h. For peanuts.
Also VTEC is a fuel economy thing. 80's DOHC stuff revs to the moon and is way more aggressive off the line.
I feel like this applies to a lot of cars though. My best mate is a Ford guy and he often gives me information on using stock parts to make crazy stuff. Particularly with Falcons. Like apparently LPG taxi engines from BA Falcons have the same bottom end as the XR6t. So I assume this same thing applies to a lot of other cars.
@@dadi2450 Thats not why 5speed is getting damaged at all. Main reason is subaru just kept reusing 5mt box that was only ever meant for naturally aspirated ej15-ej25 motors. Adding a turbo adds tonanof torque and in veru brutal fashion especially if people go ham with boost instead of keeping it stock. Its already strained to its limit with 320nM of torque from WRX's motor.
It is true that other 6 speeds like one in newer wrx and crosstrek/xv/2L Legacies was not based on 6mt of sti but was a rework of very same 5mt again, case is very similar, it was strenghtened a little tho and sadly is cable actuated unlike STi/Spec B 6 speed box and old 5mt.
ho yeah I remember that "I WILL DESTROY ALL NISSAN'S"
It never really gets old does it?
i just rewatched that a few days ago
Marty: "wrx"
Moog: "sti"
Wuuuuut. Tables have turned 😀
The beauty of working on cars is the way you feel when your friends join you for a snack, a brew, and a great conversation. Love your show, my son does too. Keep 'em coming the projects are inspiring.
I've got one of those STi 6 speeds in my 92 SVX. Totally changes the character of the car. Money well spent. These boxes are awesome.
That sounds awesome! Have you upped the power, too, or just the conversion?
Manual SVX is amazing. I threw an LGT 5mt in mine, love the 4.11's! Thinking of going rwd...
@@iplaysdrums I've done just about everything but. Adding power to these cars basically requires forced induction, and that's no small task. There's no aftermarket, so everything must be custom one off.
Those svx's have to be one of my favorite looking cars!
This car needs an entire set of new bushings, I can't begin to imagine how good that would feel
Kevin Garrett
Driving feeling sportier drinks more fuel.
Nothing to do with bushings lol!
@@fastinradfordable Either he's not joking and wheel alignment is out of whack or he means that because it now feels right, it has encouraged him to drive faster thus increasing fuel usage as a direct consequence 😁
I was suprised to see they didn’t do that, I would
Just doing that on my type R, and new suspension all round
Just did mine on the miata, a whole new world. And even beyond being damaged, i realize the precedent owner mounted them without knowing you're supposed to tighten them with the suspension compressed. The car went down almost 5cm just from installing them right. Breaks my spine every speed bump now though.
Previous videos:
Moog: it's a wrx
Marty: it's an sti
This video:
Moog: sti
Marty: wrx
Subaru’s greatest looking Impreza ever. I have owned a sedan and coupe GC8 USDM Impreza. One NA and one WRX swapped. This was always my unicorn upgrade I never obtained. Bravo gentleman on helping a middle aged man live vicariously through your endeavors.
Today was a really sh*t day for me, but MCM always makes me feel much much better! Thank you guys! ❤
Glad to hear it joe
Love seeing Benny still come into your vids ! Even though he is killing it on his own nowadays
Awesome to see Benny helping the boys again. I watch Benny's channel as well, as it's entertaining and informative.
I absolutely love this channel and everything you guys do, thanks for keeping the window into your car lives open for the rest of us
Anyone else seeing weird green frames every once in a while or is my graphics card dying
Same
It's the video
Glad I'm not the only one
I stopped the video to check the comments to make sure I wasn't going insane
yup nope its me too. It's something with the rendering of the video that's gone wrong.
I always found it kind of funny how in Subarus you want the 6 speed to have the strongest gearbox, but in an Evo if you have a 6 speed you're going to have problems. And Evo guys swap in 5 speeds for more reliability
Usually less gears mean more room for strength, like Celica 4 speeds etc. but yeh funny how Subaru is different.
Same thing for the S15 guys! Swap out the 6 speed for a 5 speed!
evo guy here. that is some weird stuff. its like these cars are from different planets.
With subies it's the moreso about the shape of the box. Cause the 5 speed is split down the middle into halves it warps slightly under lots of load which causes the gears to shatter being misaligned. 6 speeds are beefy and not split with chunkier gear sets so they can handle more power :)
That’s because the EVO gearbox was not changed or updated, Mitsushittsi decided they could fit another gear in the same box which they did, so actually made it weaker, again these were cars for the street not a serious machine for modding, if you do that you build the car accordingly, every car stock is going to have issues somewhere once you start adding power. Where as the STI gearbox here was developed, I learnt something I didn’t realise the other half of Nazi family VW / Porsche helped develop it.
6 speed was the best mod I ever did to my gc8. Took a week or two under the car after work each night, but I eventually got it in by myself and without a hoist. A helping hand and a hoist would have been a dream.
For someone from Northeast United States seeing that long bolt come out so easily from the rear knuckle on a 20+ year old Subaru is jaw-dropping material.
I love how you guys do this car such justice!
Love watching this journey. Also just got the poster in the mail and can’t wait to slap some stickers on the mk2 Scirocco I am rebuilding as we speak.
thanks for the support!
Mighty Car Mods yeah! Thanks for keeping up the content.
Changing the clutch on a 6-speed Subaru was the worst time I've had in my garage. That thing is HEAVY! Good for you for having 3 pairs of hands!
It's been a minute since i watched MCM .Miss this good old aussie channel .We get to watch and enjoy a 30 min clip while it would've taken some sweat and a lot of hours for all that spanner work Love the car boys #subiegang!
That hand -thing always makes me snort out loud! My wife thinks I am nuts.
Mind filling me in? It has to have some sort of meaning, but I'll admit it's lost on me.
Always reminds me of the Best Motoring vids... maybe a intentional reference to those too by them, perhaps... I dunno
It's the sex fist that they took to them in NZ
@@cattalematt Its the sex fist that they "Caught" when fishing in NZ
It seems like an homage to Russell Flights All Aussie Adventures hand shaking scenes :)
Dang, this driveline is ready to see more power than that engine will ever produce lol
you could be right, but we'll still kill it
Mighty Car Mods build it, break it, repeat 💪🏼 that’s what we’re here to see
@@mightycarmods I can say, 250 whp, but able to do near dead clutch drops, it's a whole lot of fun.
At least it shouldnt break. That's what's important.
IIRC Not long ago a spare 3.6 was spotted lurking about the shop.
Is it possible the WRX is going to become a Superbeast?
I have to say, I really enjoy seeing what's cool in other countries. Great to watch something other than a Mustang or Camaro being built! Love the channel!
Thanks Benny Great Job. STi is becoming a weapon. More mods More Money and then watch us go and see what it takes to break it.
Marty: "Fourth gear is a little crunchy." *wink*
One last thing I want to know for the O.G's is, does Rake love it?
Rake will be forever missed. I hope he comes back someday.
Love watching yall wrench while I take breaks between my own wrenching. Keep it up
Love this show. This proves to me, that it makes more sense for standard left hand drive cars. Since auto manufactures don’t mirror the gear box. The gears closest to you are the ones you use most. 1-3. With 4, 5, 6, and reverse are furthest away.
But if you drive in a standard car in england/southafrica/australia/new zealand/japan. The gears closest to you are the ones u use least.
I love your videos. Gives me something to look forward too esp being in the hospital. Thanks to rona I cant have visitors.. it's hard, but anyway, not trying to make this about myself lol. I really love your videos tho. Been here for YEARS watching you guys. Can't believe how far yall have come. Great work guys!!!!
Good luck with everything.. hope you're out at some stage to enjoy the open world that is reality again..
As I have a 6 speed swap sitting on the floor of my garage that I'm too lazy to install. 😂
do it do it do it
@@mightycarmods alright you've convinced me. 😂❤
@@wanderer397 I've got plenty of other projects as well. 🤷🏼♀️
Zach Seaverns if you in america i would buy it from you, i have a GC8 coupe with the STI swap because america never came with a turbo
@@Jonjims1532 i keep hearing excuses!
i have a twin disk clutch in my 95 mustang and the manufacturer was very strict on the orientation and where the spacers were located because everything had to go back exactly where they put them for balancing reasons. blue loctite, torque specs and cleanliness is the name of the game.
I drive a 02 RXi WRX converted to a fully iron ej20 62mm turbo. Once I went 6spd. Turned the boost up to 26psi. - - 403hp to the wheels all day no problems and running 10.8s. Though I never touch 1st gear. They are strong as hell!
Launch in 2nd?
@@mightycarmods at 7.5k rpm sure. From Auckland if you guys would like a ride. I'm sure my insurance company won't like me but that's fine, I'm 62k NZD deep now. #projectCarLife
“To save our backs and health” also Marty * drops steering wheel like a hissing cat
The way Moog lowered the old gear box hurt my back
Burnt out tail light and a door panel missing. I want to see this gem perfect. Its amazing.
I don't understand how "Mighty Car Mods" video's "likes" are not close to the number of views? I know out of the 135K plus view about 100K forgot to like the video...that must be it because these videos are amazing. Lots of respect from South Africa.
So good to see Benny again! Deadset legend.
my trabant has got a 3-ish speed manual-ish transmission
@@dominic5824 they can shake enough and shift themselves XD
HTML5 semi-automatic neutral controlled with murphys logic.
pretty sure trabants were 4 speed with 4th speed being a freewheel, so you could coast.
@@hojnikb The only way to pick up speed beyond 100km/h :D
Trabants will always be cooler than any Subaru.
“Glass transmission” was what my mechanic told me when I had my wrx... every time I went hard on it I kept feeling like I was tempting fate 😞
Only if you drive like a hoon.
They do have glass transmissions in the early years now the trans is great but the engines blow literally
I know exactly what your talking about. I sold my old rex cause i had a "feeling" the gearbox was gonna go. You just know....
Trashed my 2002 WRX gearbox twice - both times 3rd gear let go... Not sure that 340bhp, track tyres and a very hot track day were such a great idea...
I got jammed out of 2rd gear in my Forester XT after I tried shifting at redline while doing helis. The syncromesh gets stuck as the failed shift puts burrs on the edges but it eventually freed it self up and was fine after that.
Most other UA-camrs would have made this one episode a 4 part series to maximize the content out of it. MCM just does it right and makes it 1 video everyone loves and watches.
Keep up the good work.
My friend hooked me up with Cheryl's box last christmas, I have dipped my fingers in a few times since then, and it is always a pleasure, Still a few untouched things of beauty in there though. I used the towel immediately as I was sweating profusely throughout the experience. Cheers guys, another great video
I got a 6 speed as well, first, second, third, fourth, fifth and of course reverse.. :p
Lol nice
Random green frame at 4:54 f20
Edit: OK there's quite a few more
Whoa man! I just replaced the thermal paste on my old chromecast and I tought I killed it 😂👌
Just got a new to me gpu and that frame gave me a mini heart attack.
Subliminal messages 😉
So good to see how far you guys have come in your knowledge of working on cars. From just the kids who were doing basic mods.
Love that you’re doing laps of Pidding rd for a nice bushy backdrop
I love to see how I have sweat in every single hole in my body whilst you guys are wearing hoodies and beenies... love from the opposite part of the world.
Haha and they're in Sydney where it doesn't even get cold ever (saying that from a much colder part of Australia).
Nice to see Benny back in the shop with you guys.
Oooooo look they got Benny from Bennys Custom Works to help them!
He he he great to see Benny back helping the boys.
Somebody should let Marty know hes got a reverse light out.
Also front Subaru badge...
and the wrong rear lights...
Good to know that Subaru gearboxes usually don't break except when you use them. 🤣
There's a difference between using, and being a monkey at the wheel.
*abuse
I did this swap on the ground with a friend of mine into my 03 yellow bugeye, it took about 3 weeks worth of prep and tinkering to get everything from the donor car to my car (the donor car was in a barn with a super sketchy wood floor 🤣) and I tell you what, those 6spds are a lot heavier when one is right over your head 😂😂😂 it's so awesome to see you guys doing something that I have done, and seeing you all do it shows that I have a ways to go in my mechanical career haha
Best video compilations, hosts and MUSIC, always....
Look forward to every post by you guys.
That STi rocks
Who needs to fix a crunchy gear shift when you can swap the whole drivetrain 👌
Last time I was this early, Phil Swift had fixed my 5-speed gearbox with Flex Tape.
Datsalottadamage
After that he sawed a boat in half
Good to c Benny back on the show
Great job in a day! Reminded me of years ago when I converted from 4spd to a 5spd from a L-series into an old MY81.
No one:
Video: IRISH SPRING GREEN GREEN
FIRST. Woohoo! (After MCM themselves that is)
Very true! Got her box delivered a couple weeks ago. Thank you very much! best box I’ve had in ages 😏
I always enjoy Engine/Transmission internals being crazy colors opposed to just plain silver or blaaaack, nobody but you will ever know that your clutch is purple and it gets hidden but its still a fun added touch.
😂”they don’t break” continues to swap to a 6 speed because he’s scared it’s going to break 🤦🏽♂️
Then shows 2 seperate clips of him breaking Subaru driveline bits
He also was saying 4th was crunchy on the track day vids
He’s going to add more horspurs, did you not watch the video
Glad to see you with Benny.
Things I learned via my brother (original and continued owner of a 2002 WRX Wagon, first year in US) about WRX 5-speeds: in mid-2002 production, the regular 5-speed got updated with the Type-RA gearbox from earlier special (Type RA) WRXs. The Type RA gearbox has physically longer gears so the gear teeth are longer and have more surface area; they are the largest gears that fit in the 5-speed gearbox casing. It wasn't a huge difference, but those 2002.5+ (you can find the VIN cutoff online) 5-speeds are a bit stronger. Starting in 2003 Subaru added a clutch damper to prevent super-snappy clutch dumps and take some more strain off the driveline. My brother's wagon is one of the late 02s with the stronger 5-speed but the snappier clutch, and I love the clutch feel on it, but even that "stronger" 5-speed feels delicate to the hand.
I hate you guys in the most loving way possible! You guys made this swap look so easy compared to my experience. Took me 3 days to do by myself on jack stands.
Great to see Benny there with you guys.
Best video i've seen in the entire week!
Amazing job!
One of my favorite builds you guys have done so far! 😍
Excellent episode, well done, I'm pleased you chose to go all the way with the transmission for the future mods. That is the way to do it.
Perfect timing I literally just started my swap in my 06 wagon yesterday
loved the 'Russell Coight' handshake.
Awesome video thnx for sharing all your juicy subaru knowledge with us.
So many good unreleased songs in this episodes!! @moog please release them!
Saw 2wited on the road the other day nice to still see it around, what a mad car
Awesome build guys! Can't wait to see this thing go.
This is the one upgrade I wish I had done with my 98 RSTi. I loved that car and enjoyed rallying it in Pennsylvania to Vermont in amateur events. Lots of fun for reasonable money
Amazing episode guys! Keep it up
So happy to see Benny again!
Just want so say thanks for Cheryl's box I am delighted with everything inside, Cheryl's box is so much bigger than I anticipated, Cheryl's box aside I love the show and I'm a big fan there isn't an episode I haven't seen. From Jason in the UK 👍👍🤙
When the clutch and trans are off, not only check the rear main seal, but also the rear separator plate you can see on the right as you look at the rear of the motor. That one is stamped steel, which is decent and usually holds for a while. The worst are the plastic ones, which should be replaced. The best (and the one I luckily have) are the cast aluminum ones. That plate is on all EJs, btw.
Digging the series so far, hope to see a 2.1 stroker kit in the future.
Very cool swap! The car just gets better and better every episode!
I feel the spirit of Russel Coight in those handshakes.
Shes in great condition! Great example you have there and didnt realise the 6 speed swap was such a pain. I know first hand on these 5 speed breaking as my friend went through 2 of them on his 300hp WRX and left us stranded for a day in the countryside XD
I just spent the week taking out a six speed and full drive line from a sti bugeye and about to put it in my 99 gc8 ! this will help so much thanks guys ! what a coincidence
The most amazing part of this for me was how your rear hub bottom long bolts came out without a fight! Had to chop mine out!
Thank you legends for the entertainment i am about to have to distract me from post mouth surgery pain. I look forward to seeing what you guys have been up to :)
Loving this series !!
Just loving this! Freaking awesome guys! MCM at its best.
Those 6 speeds are beastly. I had no problems speed shifting in my '05 STI. Not many manuals have their own internal oil pumps
I never broke my 5 speed, but I did shred a chunk of the clutch after a launch. I took the opportunity to also upgrade to the 6 speed MY2004. Ratios were a lot better, but the gearbox was a bit to harsh for everyday use. Great on a track though. I remember doing this pretty much by myself, having watched a ton of videos of clutch changes and gearbox swaps. Nice memories
Great video!! I highly recommend buying a Fluid Harmonic Crank pulley matched with the Light flywheel. Will save the crank bearings for long term!
This is a conversion I really should do on my GC8! It's just crazy expensive for the 6speed box here in Norway.
You should do an episode where you change all the old bushings with Superpro bushings! And this car really need JDM taillights!