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Hey Marty, I know how much you love tech, and I just had a thought. Hearing you talk about the modernizations you’d want to do to an EJ207 made me want to tackle similar upgrades on my own car. It got me wondering-could some of the raw footage from episodes where you go deep on these builds be run through AI transcription software? It’d be amazing to turn those conversations into detailed guides or posts. You could take the raw transcript, clean it up with ChatGPT or similar tools, and generate high-quality instructions without having to release the full footage. It’d be like creating the ultimate forum post, and you might already have most of the work done! Just think about all the engines and upgrades you’ve discussed in-depth over the years-there’s so much gold there that could help the community. What do you reckon?
At one point I had over 100 Subaru oil pumps that all had the same issue that all required short block replacement all collected within 3 years time. All 100 pumps had the same issue, the at least 3 of the rear cover bolts are loose which means the gear housing is not sealing and pressure is lost. I've told Subaru this and they refuse to listen, so I advise everyone building one. Remove the new screws and put a dab of blue Loctite on the threads.
I think you have found the classic used Subaru issue. Previous owner blew it up, replaced the bottom end and sold it. The ECUTek tune was probably a bit ambitious (read it was detonating) and didn't get fixed after the EJ207 swap....
I also have one of those subaru engines. Previous owner blew it, did fast slap together, left rod bolts loose. Lucky got engine for good price for parts. Had some pricey parts in it, that can be reused with bit of love and time.
@mightycarmods pretty common story back when I was working in a Subaru performance shop. We'd also get cars with no engine and everything in boxes in the boot rock up.... after going somewhere else because they were cheaper. Good times.
@@mightycarmods you may or may not also know that the V5 STi sold in Australia was the JDM version, including the JDM fuel and ignition map. Australian fuel wasn't the same octane rating, and the speed limiter was a hard fuel cut. I know of at least one car that had the engine replaced under warranty after repeatedly hitting the speed limiter on NT roads in the early 2000s.
@@wesharriott9870 yeah this is before we had 98 octane. Shell released optimax about a year after we got these cars but the damage was done. 95 was just too low
Yeah even the later STI oil pans and pickups were better, but still not robust enough to really protect the engine in track use during long sweeping turns. It takes a bit more work to keep the oil in the pan and out of the heads on these flat engines.
No WRX should be pulling Gs without at least the Killer B performance sump package, they snap welds on the pick-up starving the engine of oil. Dry sump is the way to go if you have the coin.
This build will likely be very near to me because I just finished a 9 month journey with my World Rally Blue STi (which I registered as TOOWRXY thanks to MCM) which started with the forbidden glitter, and ended with a new motor.
I feel your pain, Marty. I love Subarus and, don't mind too much, doing the work to keep them running. I'm getting ready to do a swap on an '88 Subaru GL-10 wagon. Those EA82Ts are fun little motors and getting harder to find by the day. Luckily, with the help of a very talented family member with the instincts of a Bloodhound, he was able to find, not just one, but two! One had been forgotten in a warehouse for 16 years!
I am glad to see the STI coming back to life. Nissan owners can talk sh7t all they want, but replacing gaskets brings the mates together. That's a different outlook on "Cars and Coffee" - "Gaskets and Coolant". Good luck! 🙂
10:42 did you know, a lot of the intake manifolds are symmetrical so you can turn it around to have the throttle at the front for a front mount intercooler.
I love seeing you guys do cars you genuinely like. The Hondas were funny in their own way, but the videos are always so much better when one of them are GENUINELY into the car.
Block stamp S20C means that it is V7 sti block. Killerb baffle, pickup and sump way to go if you are planning on doing track days. I bet this is what we will see or something similar made in Australia I also have vf 28, 2.13L stroker ej20 and it produces 222kW from the crank with 14psi of boost! It spools up nicely at 3000rpm! Also V5 and V6 ecus are tunable, according to MRT performance there in Australia.
Reliability mods are a science and need to be done in specific steps. If these are not done properly things have been proven to happen. 1st mod that is essential a Air Oil Separator but if that is going to be only your mod for now then the most important mod to start with is a upgraded oil pickup and upgraded baffle and pan. IAG makes the best products for these. Your next mod would be having a built engine with forged internals. If you only had these mods and a proper tune the engine would last for 300,000 miles even with hard driving. Subaru factory engines have extra tight piston to cylinder tolerances The pistons are cast hypereutectic aluminum-silicon (Al-Si) alloy; a very common material choice for modern engines. Well proven engines like the 2JZGTE, 4G63, SR20DET, RB26DETT, LSX, K-Series, and others all use Al-Si alloys. However, Al-Si alloys can vary depending on the percentage of silicon in the material. Subaru has opted for a "hypereutectic" alloy which is a high-silicon (12+%) mix. This makes the piston have extremely low thermal expansion, and allows Subaru to run an extremely tight piston-to-bore clearance. The high-silicon content also makes the piston considerably stronger than aluminum itself. For example, a 9% silicon (by wt.) alloy has a 14% higher yield strength than a 7% silicon alloy. This strength comes at a cost: fracturing. This is where a built engine comes into play. IAG makes specific builds rated up to above 1000 horsepower to the wheels depending on which build you order. People want to complain this and that about Subarus but did they follow the reliability steps proven to work with statistics to back or did they skip essential steps and complain something broke. Spend the money and follow the steps. Science R&D and real life statistical data doesn’t lie. Also if you’re cheap and don’t have deep pockets pick a Honda to modify and just go buy a eBay turbo and be one of the “trendy folk”
So glad to see this project back on the channel. Put my WRX in the bin this summer after 256k miles and 20 Midwest salty winters. Missing it bad, so happy to see this one get a new lease on life.
That's Subaru EJ life for you, arguably the worst JDM motor ever made. The only ones, that ever survive are basically stock. Have done all the preventative maintenance mods on them. And not driven hard.
This build series could not have come at a better time! I bought a v4 Type R STI that had been standing for 16 years, proper barn find, caked in dust and all, and I was planning to get stuck into doing some work on it this weekend. So amped!
This banter is what keeps me coming back. I'm really hoping for this particular Subaru to shock peeps with its gains. (And I'm NOT a fan of them.) Great video guys.
I kind of love that I see cartube creators all over the world putting things in the bin in clear reference to MCM. Also like the occasional Binky bracket reference I see.
My very average 240sx at one time felt like the fasting thing in the world. It genuinely felt like i gained 50hp and 100 torque. I swear on everything it literally shifted itself.. the smoothest shift ive ever felt in my life, better than the best auto gearbox... it blew... I was 17 all id dreamt about was owning a 240 and driving it. I just welded my diff.. just got apexi n1's.. it blew... sold the motor and tranny for 600.. friend sold me his motor and tranny that was "gunna blow any second" for 400.. ive put 160k miles on it, closing in on 300k on the chassis. Its still good but its never felt like it did that day..
Yo Marty, you obviously know your Subarus and this is probably already built. One thing I have always done with the stock blocks is like you mentioned, AN fittings - Parallel fuel lines, new fuel rails, delete all that OEM garbage. Injectors and run all head and crank case breathers to a catch can. Mine is hidden passenger side low by the gearbox. Then Sump upgrade with pickup and baffling is a must! Heaps of options. Also the rear passenger side Coolant mod for cylinder 4. And the fact you are in Sydney, you should go see PSR for headers, up pipe and I am sure we will see a turbo upgrade. Unsure if you can get them new anymore, but if you stay top mount, the best intercoolers are Wagner Tuning from Germany. If you are in there an oil pump upgrade wouldn't hurt either. Good Luck dude! Love your work guys.
Love it! Got the poster! My GC8 is a beat up 96 but all the 'reliability mods' from oil sump to better turbo are coming. see ya in 2 years! (IAG here in the states has made quite a big aftermarket name for themselves.)
Most difficult thing to do when rebuilding the block is finding a machine shop to line hone the crank bore. Very few machinists do this and absolutely necessary on split block engines.
Once got into an argument with a known subaru master mechanic online who said "its not an oil problem, its a detonation problem, and then ringlands go boom" and then just to be an asshole I asked "what are some of the causes of detonation" and they said "heat" and and I said "what are some causes of heat" and they finally said "oil" but didn't realize I just trapped them into agreeing that low oil = high cylinder temps = detonation = failure. And the most COMMON issue with subaru engines are low oil. My 05 STI would eat enough oil that by 2000 miles in, i was a quart or more low on oil. So I started doing my oil changes at 2k miles (drove it like I stole it, daily). And it never blew up because I kept up with fluids. Hell I also had an s2000 and was told that "the rear end is glass, dont drift or launch it" meanwhile I drifted publicly (yeah im that asshole) every day on the way to and from work. Drift the onramp, drift the offramp. Take some back roads in the twisty's and drift there. NEVER ONCE did my rear end go boom. I would even launch it at some redlights to race people. The rear end never broke. WHY? Because every 2-3 oil changes I would swap rear diff oil. All my mechanic friends "that's overkill" yeah? well my rear end never broke! fresh fluid means fluid that works properly. Sure, there was a long period of time via the official database for fluid changes for diff/trans. But I would do mine MORE OFTEN to ensure good life. Hell, the greatest drifter of all time Keiichi Tsuchiya has spoken many times about his personal vehicles and how he does fluids "way too often" to ensure long life. And none of his cars break down typically. I remember the first time I heard him say it, was when he was racing his mini-van (honda odyssey) on is show for fun. And talking to the other people mentioned how often he changes fluids and they called him crazy. But his cars never break....
It is kind of a spiral/circle though. My previous block had the piston rings stuck, causing a lot of blowby, increasing the oil consumption to 1l/1000km right before the rebuild. Stuck rings were again caused by the previous owner not being on top of the oil service intervalls. It didn't start with high consumption but with bad maintenance.
@@DrivingMatterMedia 100% bad maintenance is pretty much the killer of most builds. funny how lack of oil caused the rings to go bad and then for you no matter how much you tried to do things proper, you were screwed by the previous owner. but yeah. i find it funny how many subaru people out there are clueless. not ALWAYS the case. but its pretty common. I once met a dude who bragged about his car, but someone else build it and maintained it for him. "Oh this -insert performance shop- does everything for me" nice guy but when his engine goes its going to be his fault for not being an active owner.
@@growingup4487 the BRZ fa24 was having oiling issues recently when making turns with high g forces and losing oil pressure, spinning bearings. It's been fixed on the FA24 turbo in the WRX tho.
That is excellent to hear! I bought my first slowbaru. '24 WRX. It's my understanding these are "the best". If so, this will be my first and last slowbaru. They're mediocre at BEST & I will never understand the "hype".
@@Inv1ncbleBears the turbo FA has some scavenger pump for the turbo that helps with oil pressure. But WRX wouldn't pull as many G's as BRZ in the first place, the issue with the BRZ is when they take on track and have lowered / hard suspension with sticky tyres. They've done tests and in stock form on street or back roads (even driven hard) it isn't an issue at all.
finally I’ve waited for this since rodney starting saying hey on the track god this is a great day, can’t wait for the next episode i’m so keen and 5:22 was so wholesome mainly cause i’m on team subaru with marty but still nonetheless love you both bloody legends ❤ keep it up 🎉
Seen a few comments talking about moto iq and IAG parts etc. All very proven parts and very knowledgeable people, but I feel like it’s a shame to go international with help we have a large Subaru community in Australia with equally as smart and knowledgeable people. Some examples are Techworkz and Deshele Performance for Subaru specialists on the east coast plus many more
Claims these engines last a long time if well maintained. Opens engine and remarks on how clean and well maintained it is. Me: ahh yes, that must be why it blew up.
The look on your face when you knew the bottom end let go 😢 ... I feel you. Normally, I buy cars after things have gone badly for someone else, so i haven't been to that exact place.
They're just delicate cars, they require a lot of mods and a careful owner to be driven like a sports car without blowing up, the Subaru community just excuses these weaknesses though
subarus have no reason to exist. better center of gravity to corner but has no ability to lubricate under cornering so it's irrelevant. double the cam shaft, double the head gasket, double the parasitic loss. Make gravity work against you. Impossible/ expensive to work on. Name something positive, because i can't. The sound is the only thing i can think of and it isn't special because you can modify your exhaust to have the same sound on anything else. But nobody will do that because uneven exhaust is worse.
Spent $35k+ on an engine build on my sti all the best parts only for it to last a few months on low boost as it burned a ton of oil in a very short amount of time spinning a rod bearing. Sounds just like that knock.
I have been racing in multiple clubs with many different cars for 7 years and the only ones that have broke is a 2.5 subaru and a rx8 rotary. My mirage, mx5, lancer, swift engine just keep going forever
Firstly, where does one find their own 'Subaru whisperer?' haha. Subie girl here. My Subaru liberty gt did a big end bearing a couple years ago, and I still can't get that knocking noise out of my head. The poor thing has sat for like nearly 3 years. But should be back soon enough. Watching videos like this and like yours, just reminds me why I love cars and why it's worth every amount of effort and money to get your pride and joy back on the road. Keep up the good work guys!
I'm so excited to see this car back after a few years! Actually, I always thought you were gonna eventually replace the engine and go for a swap ever since you did the Super Levorg and you were left with the extra modern 2.5 STI engine. Anyway, cool to see you went the short block route!
They aren't that bad. Part of the problem is that P platers get them, put a boost tee on them, turn the wick up, don't look after them and then they blow up. It's like that meme of the guy putting a stick through the spokes of his own bike while he is riding it lol. I've done several seasons of competitive motorsport with 270awkw on stock RA long block , never a problem with the engine. edit, and full disclosure, I'm not even a Subaru person.
@@richieduck67 The whole head gaskets thing is embellished from a certain period of 2.5L NA engines, but people just ran with it because they like hating on stuff for no reason.
just finished a big trip up to port douglas in my gc8 I understand with a 25 year old car you need to pay to play and it was nothing but smiles and cheers driving it up through the coastal roads. such a fun little car that forces you to treat well in order to get the best out of it
Rod knock isn’t quite blowing up your engine. I’ve blown two engines, one of course a Subaru. Unless you see a cloud of smoke in the rear view mirror and some parts exiting the block consider yourself lucky😂
@ Thanks, I know what piston slap is. The comment was made before we learned what the issue was at the end of the video. Still repairable, unlike making a window in your block.
Iv owned a -99 wrx sti type r limited edition back in 2018. Best car iv ever owned in my life, if i ever can afford one again ill buy it. I miss the GC8. Great video guys. Cheers from sweden😊
It'd be a blast to see you chaps swap in a modern Subaru FA24 with a low mounted twin-scroll turbo. Even stock FA24's are proving to hold more power, more reliably, than the EJ series.
Problem is that the FA24 is direct injection. You'd need to swap the ENTIRE fuel system, and run a Motec or similarly expensive ECU to run direct injection.
@flameninja00 True. That project would definitely require a stand-alone ECU and fuel system. If going that far however, a dual port/direct fuel injection system would be possible (that turned out to be the workaround for high power FA20 builds when they ran out of fueling).
@@edwardpeters4700 you'd need an even more expensive ECU to run both port and direct at the same time lol. Afaik, only Motec, Link, and ECUmasters can run DI, and I'm not sure any of them other than Motec can run both simultaneously. They're buddy buddy with Haltec, so I don't see that happening. Problem isn't fueling for power, it's controlling the fueling.
Love Subarus. I have 2, miss my WRX though and now I was googling Imprezas from the 90s for sale. Ordered a poster. I had a shit week and especially day, thanks for cheering me up.
My V3 STi Type R engine fell apart on the road due to the previous owner not locking down the bolts for the crank, at all in some places. Had to go for a total rebuild with far stronger internals, new/bigger turbo (because why not) and new ecu/remap. It's been great ever since, the remap increased the stock BHP/Torque numbers as the supporting mods were in place. As long as you feed the car the right stuff and don't abuse it, it should last a long time. :)
Excellent video guys, sorry about your motor Marty. Hearing that sound is a bugger, you know it's going to cost you. Looking forward to the rebuild. Cheers
Only the most Special of cars get a poster, and this is one of them! Limited time only: mightycarmods.com/products/limited-edition-gc8-poster-autographed
Look into cryogenic treatment for a engine..
Love martys subi love it u guys know what the subarute got me into mcm bk in the day was sick asf
Boo Hoo Woo... I Bwroke my Subwarwooo....... BUT we can rebwuild it Bwedder,! LOL
I loved the SubarUte ya'll made for us 'Mericans! LOL
When you have that Subaru will you need the gold wheels
Hey Marty, I know how much you love tech, and I just had a thought. Hearing you talk about the modernizations you’d want to do to an EJ207 made me want to tackle similar upgrades on my own car. It got me wondering-could some of the raw footage from episodes where you go deep on these builds be run through AI transcription software?
It’d be amazing to turn those conversations into detailed guides or posts. You could take the raw transcript, clean it up with ChatGPT or similar tools, and generate high-quality instructions without having to release the full footage. It’d be like creating the ultimate forum post, and you might already have most of the work done!
Just think about all the engines and upgrades you’ve discussed in-depth over the years-there’s so much gold there that could help the community. What do you reckon?
" I will destroy all Nissans" proceeds to blow up the Subaru, a classic
The words of a determine racer who knows no limits of his willpower.
A tale as true as time.
Funny too coz you will find nissan parts in a subaru of that age from factory 😂
@@carlsberg1668 you beat me to it
@@doubletee4391 better luck next time brother 😏🤘🤘
At one point I had over 100 Subaru oil pumps that all had the same issue that all required short block replacement all collected within 3 years time. All 100 pumps had the same issue, the at least 3 of the rear cover bolts are loose which means the gear housing is not sealing and pressure is lost. I've told Subaru this and they refuse to listen, so I advise everyone building one. Remove the new screws and put a dab of blue Loctite on the threads.
They don't fix it because they will LOSE MONEY..
why? just wtf why?
We found the same thing. Every ej oil pump was loose
Hahaha no way. I thought to myself - "this sounds familiar..." Then I looked at the username.
@@garystinten9339 what kinda 2d chess are you thinking they're playing? People hesitate to buy a product if they know it's bad. that makes zero sense.
I think you have found the classic used Subaru issue. Previous owner blew it up, replaced the bottom end and sold it. The ECUTek tune was probably a bit ambitious (read it was detonating) and didn't get fixed after the EJ207 swap....
Quite possible!
I also have one of those subaru engines. Previous owner blew it, did fast slap together, left rod bolts loose. Lucky got engine for good price for parts. Had some pricey parts in it, that can be reused with bit of love and time.
@mightycarmods pretty common story back when I was working in a Subaru performance shop. We'd also get cars with no engine and everything in boxes in the boot rock up.... after going somewhere else because they were cheaper. Good times.
@@mightycarmods you may or may not also know that the V5 STi sold in Australia was the JDM version, including the JDM fuel and ignition map. Australian fuel wasn't the same octane rating, and the speed limiter was a hard fuel cut. I know of at least one car that had the engine replaced under warranty after repeatedly hitting the speed limiter on NT roads in the early 2000s.
@@wesharriott9870 yeah this is before we had 98 octane. Shell released optimax about a year after we got these cars but the damage was done. 95 was just too low
Marty and Blair, this is wholeheartedly a joy to watch! It gave me back the first old MCM vibe when I started watching when I was 16.
Ever since the early days of this channel the music always made MCM feel so unique. Glad you guys are still at it.
I love the musical transitions!!❤❤
Install an oil pan baffle, for these subies is a godsend and prevents a lot of issues like spun bearings and many more things
Yeah even the later STI oil pans and pickups were better, but still not robust enough to really protect the engine in track use during long sweeping turns. It takes a bit more work to keep the oil in the pan and out of the heads on these flat engines.
No WRX should be pulling Gs without at least the Killer B performance sump package, they snap welds on the pick-up starving the engine of oil.
Dry sump is the way to go if you have the coin.
@@andyc7595 absolutely, specially when you're using it on mountain roads or tracks with elevation changes
@@hunterlang578 for real, I'm finishing my gc8 and I'm terrified of the thought of tracking it without at least a baffle
@LeweMan not many people can say "my car grips that hard it snaps the factory welds on the oil pick-up".
"The idea of a dream car is often an elusive adventure for many car enthusiast"...well said! It's a sickness and I don't want to be cured!
Already waiting for your Christmas special guys, you never seize to amaze me
There's one coming, it's epic
david... 'seize' is a poor 'choice' of word re any engine subject!😅
An upgraded oil pan, pick up and baffle should have been a must for this before you took it to the track.
Agreed. I'm not interested in people's project cars if all they do is try to screw more power out of it and don't do anything else.
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This build will likely be very near to me because I just finished a 9 month journey with my World Rally Blue STi (which I registered as TOOWRXY thanks to MCM) which started with the forbidden glitter, and ended with a new motor.
I feel your pain, Marty. I love Subarus and, don't mind too much, doing the work to keep them running. I'm getting ready to do a swap on an '88 Subaru GL-10 wagon. Those EA82Ts are fun little motors and getting harder to find by the day. Luckily, with the help of a very talented family member with the instincts of a Bloodhound, he was able to find, not just one, but two! One had been forgotten in a warehouse for 16 years!
I am glad to see the STI coming back to life. Nissan owners can talk sh7t all they want, but replacing gaskets brings the mates together. That's a different outlook on "Cars and Coffee" - "Gaskets and Coolant". Good luck! 🙂
10:42 did you know, a lot of the intake manifolds are symmetrical so you can turn it around to have the throttle at the front for a front mount intercooler.
I love seeing you guys do cars you genuinely like. The Hondas were funny in their own way, but the videos are always so much better when one of them are GENUINELY into the car.
The nice thing about being a Subaru mechanic is you always have work.
Job security in this economic environment. God has blessed you with thin block walls and poultry ringlands 😅
"You can't get them anymore" - really feeling that for parts there days!
Marty: "If you squint, the skip bin and the 180 look very similar."
Moog: "They'd probably smell similar."
Me: Spits coffee out while laughing.
Block stamp S20C means that it is V7 sti block. Killerb baffle, pickup and sump way to go if you are planning on doing track days. I bet this is what we will see or something similar made in Australia I also have vf 28, 2.13L stroker ej20 and it produces 222kW from the crank with 14psi of boost! It spools up nicely at 3000rpm! Also V5 and V6 ecus are tunable, according to MRT performance there in Australia.
Reliability mods are a science and need to be done in specific steps. If these are not done properly things have been proven to happen. 1st mod that is essential a Air Oil Separator but if that is going to be only your mod for now then the most important mod to start with is a upgraded oil pickup and upgraded baffle and pan. IAG makes the best products for these. Your next mod would be having a built engine with forged internals. If you only had these mods and a proper tune the engine would last for 300,000 miles even with hard driving. Subaru factory engines have extra tight piston to cylinder tolerances The pistons are cast hypereutectic aluminum-silicon (Al-Si) alloy; a very common material choice for modern engines. Well proven engines like the 2JZGTE, 4G63, SR20DET, RB26DETT, LSX, K-Series, and others all use Al-Si alloys. However, Al-Si alloys can vary depending on the percentage of silicon in the material. Subaru has opted for a "hypereutectic" alloy which is a high-silicon (12+%) mix. This makes the piston have extremely low thermal expansion, and allows Subaru to run an extremely tight piston-to-bore clearance. The high-silicon content also makes the piston considerably stronger than aluminum itself. For example, a 9% silicon (by wt.) alloy has a 14% higher yield strength than a 7% silicon alloy. This strength comes at a cost: fracturing. This is where a built engine comes into play. IAG makes specific builds rated up to above 1000 horsepower to the wheels depending on which build you order. People want to complain this and that about Subarus but did they follow the reliability steps proven to work with statistics to back or did they skip essential steps and complain something broke. Spend the money and follow the steps. Science R&D and real life statistical data doesn’t lie. Also if you’re cheap and don’t have deep pockets pick a Honda to modify and just go buy a eBay turbo and be one of the “trendy folk”
Thanks! Helpful
@boos..a really top level informative post. Thanks!
Nr.1 reliability mod would be a K-series 😂😂
@@mightycarmodshey moog whats the song name at 6:52 ive been searching for ages but cant find this banger😭
Lots of useful info... Username checks out!
So glad to see this project back on the channel. Put my WRX in the bin this summer after 256k miles and 20 Midwest salty winters. Missing it bad, so happy to see this one get a new lease on life.
Marty has always been quick with blowing things
Well...he's just testing the limits then making Aussie awesome.
@@tfoen7678 woosh
That's Subaru EJ life for you, arguably the worst JDM motor ever made.
The only ones, that ever survive are basically stock. Have done all the preventative maintenance mods on them. And not driven hard.
😂😂😂good one
@@igvtec Heh.. not driven hard..
This build series could not have come at a better time! I bought a v4 Type R STI that had been standing for 16 years, proper barn find, caked in dust and all, and I was planning to get stuck into doing some work on it this weekend. So amped!
When a flat 4 breaks, a flat 6 shall take its place.
2 different piles of the same 💩 😂😂😂
Just K swap it
@@Vato18st2.0 But then it wont sound as good
@@Qixew it'll sound better
@@Intdyr It'll sound like every other 4 cylinder fart can, UEL rumble clears.
I love these forensics episodes because it really shows you how everything works .. although you still have to know what you're doing, of course!
-"How's the trans holdin up?"
-"Fine man...."
That video is classic Subaru history
😲
Been waiting for this series ever since the STI blew. Cannot WAIT for each and every episode.
There is something poetic about blowing an engine at a race track for a race/race inspired car. Engine going out how it should, bitter sweet.
Completely agree. It’s the risk you take.
An honest title. Love this channel.
Edit: oh and that DnB drop. YES
Looked clean with the silver wheels
GCs are in a class of their own in the topic of Subarus tbh. They are their own vibe!!
Bros! So happy that poster is up! Just landed a job and I can finally get one and of my favorite car! Order placed!
Don't!
@@bradleywilkinson8882why not?
@garystinten9339 Not a Subaru Impreza I hope. They usually have a 100% failure rate ,head gaskets etc.
@@bradleywilkinson8882 Gronk
There’s heaps of quality information about them because they always let go and everyone is used to fixing them ❤
Definitely one of your best videos so far!
Even though you’re a bot, i'm gonna leave this here just cause its so nice
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This banter is what keeps me coming back. I'm really hoping for this particular Subaru to shock peeps with its gains. (And I'm NOT a fan of them.) Great video guys.
I kind of love that I see cartube creators all over the world putting things in the bin in clear reference to MCM.
Also like the occasional Binky bracket reference I see.
Kicking it back to the old days!!! I love how Marty is a fan of Subaru!!!!
My very average 240sx at one time felt like the fasting thing in the world. It genuinely felt like i gained 50hp and 100 torque. I swear on everything it literally shifted itself.. the smoothest shift ive ever felt in my life, better than the best auto gearbox... it blew... I was 17 all id dreamt about was owning a 240 and driving it. I just welded my diff.. just got apexi n1's.. it blew... sold the motor and tranny for 600.. friend sold me his motor and tranny that was "gunna blow any second" for 400.. ive put 160k miles on it, closing in on 300k on the chassis. Its still good but its never felt like it did that day..
Yo Marty, you obviously know your Subarus and this is probably already built. One thing I have always done with the stock blocks is like you mentioned, AN fittings - Parallel fuel lines, new fuel rails, delete all that OEM garbage. Injectors and run all head and crank case breathers to a catch can. Mine is hidden passenger side low by the gearbox. Then Sump upgrade with pickup and baffling is a must! Heaps of options. Also the rear passenger side Coolant mod for cylinder 4. And the fact you are in Sydney, you should go see PSR for headers, up pipe and I am sure we will see a turbo upgrade. Unsure if you can get them new anymore, but if you stay top mount, the best intercoolers are Wagner Tuning from Germany. If you are in there an oil pump upgrade wouldn't hurt either. Good Luck dude! Love your work guys.
Love it! Got the poster! My GC8 is a beat up 96 but all the 'reliability mods' from oil sump to better turbo are coming. see ya in 2 years! (IAG here in the states has made quite a big aftermarket name for themselves.)
06:53 I've been searching Spotify and apple music for this song for years now. Does anyone know if Moog released the track? Thanks
I am asking the same question! This song is fire!
I will keep coming back to this comment till we get a name for the track lol!
@@rubes3601I hope someone can put a name to the track
Moog has a number of songs that get frequent use which haven't been released. I've been waiting for an older one for ages.
I'm sure its hard to manage all of the filming with competing priorities and Moogs TG job, but yall do great. Thanks for everything lads.
Most difficult thing to do when rebuilding the block is finding a machine shop to line hone the crank bore. Very few machinists do this and absolutely necessary on split block engines.
mike...line boring was the 'done thing' in 60's & 70's ... don't know about these days?
@@iggyppup yeah nowaday pretty much not done except on split case engine like this, Porsche split case engines, and UHP engine builds in motorsport.
The Subaru WRX STI will be amazing Well Done Marty and Moog Find it up👏👏👏👏👏
Once got into an argument with a known subaru master mechanic online who said "its not an oil problem, its a detonation problem, and then ringlands go boom" and then just to be an asshole I asked "what are some of the causes of detonation" and they said "heat" and and I said "what are some causes of heat" and they finally said "oil" but didn't realize I just trapped them into agreeing that low oil = high cylinder temps = detonation = failure. And the most COMMON issue with subaru engines are low oil. My 05 STI would eat enough oil that by 2000 miles in, i was a quart or more low on oil. So I started doing my oil changes at 2k miles (drove it like I stole it, daily). And it never blew up because I kept up with fluids. Hell I also had an s2000 and was told that "the rear end is glass, dont drift or launch it" meanwhile I drifted publicly (yeah im that asshole) every day on the way to and from work. Drift the onramp, drift the offramp. Take some back roads in the twisty's and drift there. NEVER ONCE did my rear end go boom. I would even launch it at some redlights to race people. The rear end never broke. WHY? Because every 2-3 oil changes I would swap rear diff oil. All my mechanic friends "that's overkill" yeah? well my rear end never broke! fresh fluid means fluid that works properly. Sure, there was a long period of time via the official database for fluid changes for diff/trans. But I would do mine MORE OFTEN to ensure good life. Hell, the greatest drifter of all time Keiichi Tsuchiya has spoken many times about his personal vehicles and how he does fluids "way too often" to ensure long life. And none of his cars break down typically. I remember the first time I heard him say it, was when he was racing his mini-van (honda odyssey) on is show for fun. And talking to the other people mentioned how often he changes fluids and they called him crazy. But his cars never break....
Yeah I put 500ml more than full on the stick in before that track day, as I’ve always done. You’re right, low oil is a killer!
It is kind of a spiral/circle though. My previous block had the piston rings stuck, causing a lot of blowby, increasing the oil consumption to 1l/1000km right before the rebuild. Stuck rings were again caused by the previous owner not being on top of the oil service intervalls. It didn't start with high consumption but with bad maintenance.
@@DrivingMatterMedia 100% bad maintenance is pretty much the killer of most builds. funny how lack of oil caused the rings to go bad and then for you no matter how much you tried to do things proper, you were screwed by the previous owner. but yeah. i find it funny how many subaru people out there are clueless. not ALWAYS the case. but its pretty common. I once met a dude who bragged about his car, but someone else build it and maintained it for him. "Oh this -insert performance shop- does everything for me" nice guy but when his engine goes its going to be his fault for not being an active owner.
My EJ205 360k km's and still going strong. Never been modded though... Rare.
2:12 he said it! He said Moog!
I've always wondered why he didn't say his name. That's the first time I've heard him say it!
Did that on purpose just for you
Finally!!! Been waiting forever for this!! And ordered a poster immediately!
From a flat 4 to a flat 3 in just a few laps.
19.46 absolutely yes i doo need to see that marty i absolutely do need to see you two fight over binning car parts
Subaru still doing the oil thing 40 years later.
much better system on the FA
@@growingup4487 the BRZ fa24 was having oiling issues recently when making turns with high g forces and losing oil pressure, spinning bearings. It's been fixed on the FA24 turbo in the WRX tho.
That is excellent to hear! I bought my first slowbaru. '24 WRX. It's my understanding these are "the best". If so, this will be my first and last slowbaru. They're mediocre at BEST & I will never understand the "hype".
@@Inv1ncbleBears the turbo FA has some scavenger pump for the turbo that helps with oil pressure. But WRX wouldn't pull as many G's as BRZ in the first place, the issue with the BRZ is when they take on track and have lowered / hard suspension with sticky tyres. They've done tests and in stock form on street or back roads (even driven hard) it isn't an issue at all.
Love the jam at the end. This feels like an old MCM episode too, keep it up!
5:01 blah blah blah ....its because it goes ptsscchh ptssscchhh that is all 😂
finally I’ve waited for this since rodney starting saying hey on the track god this is a great day, can’t wait for the next episode i’m so keen and 5:22 was so wholesome mainly cause i’m on team subaru with marty but still nonetheless love you both bloody legends ❤ keep it up 🎉
Man, talking to the boys at MotoIQ seems like the best idea here.
Seen a few comments talking about moto iq and IAG parts etc. All very proven parts and very knowledgeable people, but I feel like it’s a shame to go international with help we have a large Subaru community in Australia with equally as smart and knowledgeable people. Some examples are Techworkz and Deshele Performance for Subaru specialists on the east coast plus many more
I’ve never bought MCM merch before. As soon as I saw the Subaru poster I bought one and two shirts.
So stoked! Thanks guys! Love the content!
Moog's tunes are da bomb.
What are the tracks used in this video?
Saw you lifting up that poster and was already in the checkout buying it 😂 Been waiting years for a poster of it!
Claims these engines last a long time if well maintained.
Opens engine and remarks on how clean and well maintained it is.
Me: ahh yes, that must be why it blew up.
You ignore the bit about boost and tracking it?
The look on your face when you knew the bottom end let go 😢 ... I feel you. Normally, I buy cars after things have gone badly for someone else, so i haven't been to that exact place.
Subarus doing subaru things because theyre subarus
They get a bad rep because people thrash them without doing the proper preparation and maintenance
Yes-very true.
Just like Jeep folks, it's a jeep thing which no one understands unless they have one.
They're just delicate cars, they require a lot of mods and a careful owner to be driven like a sports car without blowing up, the Subaru community just excuses these weaknesses though
subarus have no reason to exist. better center of gravity to corner but has no ability to lubricate under cornering so it's irrelevant. double the cam shaft, double the head gasket, double the parasitic loss. Make gravity work against you. Impossible/ expensive to work on. Name something positive, because i can't. The sound is the only thing i can think of and it isn't special because you can modify your exhaust to have the same sound on anything else. But nobody will do that because uneven exhaust is worse.
@ryanmitchell6827 SAME WITH ANY FLAT MOTOR..THE OILING ISSUES ARE ONLY AT EXTREME FORCES LIKE SUSTAINED 1.5G+ .
I was so heartbroken for you when it went poo, so glad to see you guys fix and improve it
Spent $35k+ on an engine build on my sti all the best parts only for it to last a few months on low boost as it burned a ton of oil in a very short amount of time spinning a rod bearing. Sounds just like that knock.
Ouch
I'd be having a strong chat to your engine builder if that is the case
I have been racing in multiple clubs with many different cars for 7 years and the only ones that have broke is a 2.5 subaru and a rx8 rotary. My mirage, mx5, lancer, swift engine just keep going forever
Firstly, where does one find their own 'Subaru whisperer?' haha. Subie girl here. My Subaru liberty gt did a big end bearing a couple years ago, and I still can't get that knocking noise out of my head. The poor thing has sat for like nearly 3 years. But should be back soon enough. Watching videos like this and like yours, just reminds me why I love cars and why it's worth every amount of effort and money to get your pride and joy back on the road. Keep up the good work guys!
I'm so excited to see this car back after a few years! Actually, I always thought you were gonna eventually replace the engine and go for a swap ever since you did the Super Levorg and you were left with the extra modern 2.5 STI engine. Anyway, cool to see you went the short block route!
Subaru engines blowing are a daily occurrence.
One of the only times I’ve seen Marty devastated about a broken car. You can tell how special this car is.
My car blew up - on no
It's a Subaru - oh no wonder
They aren't that bad. Part of the problem is that P platers get them, put a boost tee on them, turn the wick up, don't look after them and then they blow up.
It's like that meme of the guy putting a stick through the spokes of his own bike while he is riding it lol.
I've done several seasons of competitive motorsport with 270awkw on stock RA long block , never a problem with the engine.
edit, and full disclosure, I'm not even a Subaru person.
@@ndk2k4 is that why EJs are used in light planes?
Mine has 250,000 kms on it original head gaskets
@@richieduck67 The whole head gaskets thing is embellished from a certain period of 2.5L NA engines, but people just ran with it because they like hating on stuff for no reason.
@@pursuitforspeedna engines that had graphite layer lol
Ordered my poster yesterday, can't wait to add another awesome poster to my collection
Piston dropped a ring, slapped around and destroyed the cylinder.
Classic Subaru.
The music playing the back from around 6:00 to 7:45 is awesome. Moog needs to make that a song asap!
What song is at 13:26
I'm still lookin
Im trying to figure it out too!
Been checking Moog’s Spotify channel, he hasn’t released the song yet
For real ive been driving myself crazy tryna find it
just finished a big trip up to port douglas in my gc8 I understand with a 25 year old car you need to pay to play and it was nothing but smiles and cheers driving it up through the coastal roads. such a fun little car that forces you to treat well in order to get the best out of it
Rod knock isn’t quite blowing up your engine. I’ve blown two engines, one of course a Subaru. Unless you see a cloud of smoke in the rear view mirror and some parts exiting the block consider yourself lucky😂
Piston slap is not rod knock.
@ Thanks, I know what piston slap is. The comment was made before we learned what the issue was at the end of the video. Still repairable, unlike making a window in your block.
@@agonatas you’re in with a shot at repair, sure. But the case might be the only thing of use under circumstances like that as well.
Uncle Rodney always comes a knockin' (if you drive a Subaru and dare to take it over 2500rpm. (I drive a Subaru btw))
I’ve been watching you guys since day one, the new videos hit just as good as ever🤙
Iv owned a -99 wrx sti type r limited edition back in 2018. Best car iv ever owned in my life, if i ever can afford one again ill buy it. I miss the GC8. Great video guys. Cheers from sweden😊
My94 wrx is barely holding on in life. Excellent to see you not giving up. It’s not in my dna either to give up on Subaru
3:47 PUT A K SERIES IN IT
Blasphemy…. But I like it.
They unfortunately don't fit unless you delete the AWD transmission
I love seeing the range of emotions that you guys have. I have been desensitized living in California usa. This shows that money can make you happy.
It'd be a blast to see you chaps swap in a modern Subaru FA24 with a low mounted twin-scroll turbo. Even stock FA24's are proving to hold more power, more reliably, than the EJ series.
Problem is that the FA24 is direct injection. You'd need to swap the ENTIRE fuel system, and run a Motec or similarly expensive ECU to run direct injection.
@flameninja00 True. That project would definitely require a stand-alone ECU and fuel system. If going that far however, a dual port/direct fuel injection system would be possible (that turned out to be the workaround for high power FA20 builds when they ran out of fueling).
If they're going to swap it they should go with an ez30....but if they're going to all that trouble they should just build a bullet proof ej207
F that!
@@edwardpeters4700 you'd need an even more expensive ECU to run both port and direct at the same time lol. Afaik, only Motec, Link, and ECUmasters can run DI, and I'm not sure any of them other than Motec can run both simultaneously. They're buddy buddy with Haltec, so I don't see that happening. Problem isn't fueling for power, it's controlling the fueling.
Another awesome video gents! Much love from the central Oregon coast!
Love Subarus. I have 2, miss my WRX though and now I was googling Imprezas from the 90s for sale. Ordered a poster. I had a shit week and especially day, thanks for cheering me up.
Knock knock
Whos there.
Rodney?
time to K Swap it
My V3 STi Type R engine fell apart on the road due to the previous owner not locking down the bolts for the crank, at all in some places. Had to go for a total rebuild with far stronger internals, new/bigger turbo (because why not) and new ecu/remap. It's been great ever since, the remap increased the stock BHP/Torque numbers as the supporting mods were in place. As long as you feed the car the right stuff and don't abuse it, it should last a long time. :)
I've had 4 subaru's. None of them ever blew up. still have one 1994 EJ22 Liberty with 350k's. no mods but lots of love and servicing.
I’ve had 4 and 2 of them blew up
I'm so happy it's back. Very excited for the next stage of this buil.
A broken Subaru? I'm shocked! SHOCKED I tell you...Well, maybe not that shocked
What a great way to end a long day. Always puts a smile on my face when I see a new mcm video.
Option 5 : sell it and buy an Evo...👍🏻
Did that, came back
@@mightycarmodsbuy an actual EVO brother. Awd, 4g63t, the works. The Dsm world will shock you. I promise you, you won't be disappointed.
Killer B pan, pickup, and headers are defiantly a must
0:12 Aw yea! Nothing like artificial scarcity to create hype for a poster that could be reprinted at a momments notice.
They haven’t done that for any of them lol chill out kid you’ll be okay
I've been waiting for this series for so long! Finally!
Defending EJ engines is a disease, done only by Subaru nubs
@@obsidian.... I had to have a peek at your other comments... when did a Subaru hurt you, little buddy?😂
Awesome vlog boys!!! Keep them coming!!!
Literally bought 2 gc8s and 1 gf8 today. Excited to see how this series is gonna help me with them
You guys are pumping these out man. It’s insane
Excellent video guys, sorry about your motor Marty. Hearing that sound is a bugger, you know it's going to cost you. Looking forward to the rebuild. Cheers
Good luck with the build!!
Only 51 minutes to fully pull the engine is actually insane. So much experience and skills right there.