WMO/Used Oil as Diesel FUEL, Filtration Setup, Filtering, Test Drive - Jeep Cherokee XJ 2.5 TD
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2020
- FREE FUEL!!!! :-)
This video shows a system I made for filtering wasted motor oil (WMO) which can be fuel for older diesel engines.
Various oils can be used for fuel: motor oil, diff oil, brake fluid, hydraulic oil, transmission fluid etc.
This fuel is also called black diesel.
My Jeep likes it! :-)
Test vehicle:
1997 Jeep Cherokee XJ
2.5 VM Motori turbo diesel engine (factory installed)
5 speed manual transmission
NP231 Command Trac transfer case
Rusty's 3 inch lift kit
31x10.5x15 Cooper Discoverer STT PRO tires - Авто та транспорт
The Jeep has more power than driving on diesel fuel. At least it seems so. 😅
probably.. your end fuel has a higher cetane. Problem will be your likely getting more uncombusted fuel as well though. You will want to find something your happy with to clean out your combustion chambers (run some cleaner thru engine more often..... and/or water injection, water methanol, or HHO as an engine cleaning tool. ) also injection cleaner to clean injection system. Do this at much higher intervals than you normally would
@@coachgeo you're right. I have to do this anyway. This was a test for now more out of curiosity.
that a very good idea i will try it on my 1996 mitsubishi space runner TD with 20lt of cooking oil mix 30lt of regular diesel to see whats whats
@@Bryan25105 the first thing you will notice is barbeque smell from exhaust! 😁
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar 🤣🤣🤣 that will make people behind me hungry 🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking to try a 2.1 mixing ratio like 20lt diesel 10lt fresh cheap lidl oil
That's a great use of old oil. After your initial set up of pumps and filters, that will be a good savings of money. I hope the engine likes it.
Engine really likes it. It seems to have more power than with diesel fuel. 😁
I was the KING of alternate fuel here in Chicago!! I used over 35,000 gallons of transformer oil in my Detroit and 855 Cummins powered old trucks for years, straight in the tank without ANY admixing! The trucks ran great! Needed ether a little warmer than Diesel would. Did it from 1995 until it got hard to get in the early 2000s. I did use several thousand gallons about 8 years ago after a transformer job on the CSS&SB railroad. I did mix it with 50-50 Diesel since it went into newer macks with E7 computerized engines. Take THAT, IFTA!!!!
That's awesome. It was a pleasure to read your comment. 🙂
Thanxxx!!! I wish I had that oil when Diesel was close to $5.00 a gallon! That would have been a saving of well over $150.000! Back then when I used most of the oil, Diesel was around $1.70 a gallon only! A lotta people thought I was full of shit when I talked about doing that!!
@@junkdeal they used to attack me on the internet because of the ecology. I searched because I was curious about it but I could find almost nothing.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Believe me, if the right people had found me, they would have attacked me too!!!
@@junkdeal I’ve read a lot about it, England even has a law about it. Driving on wmo is allowed, the only thing is that they have to pay a fee when registering the vehicle. It may not be as bad for the environment as it seems.
This is so amazing man. You actually made my day.
I'm glad! 🙂
Cheers! 🙋🏻♂️
Wow this is AWESOME CONTENT!! 🔥🔥🔥 This is exactly what I want to do!! I'm new to your channel and want to learn about this more so I can convert my diesel truck 😁 thank you please keep sharing knowledge please🙏
Thanks I appreciate it.
This is pretty much everything you need to know. The engine is completely stock. If you want to know any detail, just ask. 😉
I think the idea is fine - but the filter you are using is really for a final "spit and polish" of already clean fuel. If you are trying to filter the grot out of WMO, I think MUCH larger filters would make more sense - perhaps a simple cascade:-
Untreated > settled tank > 100 micron filter > 50 micron filter > 20 micron filter > 5 micron filters > 1 micron filter. Tradition then has it, that if you mix this with around 20% petrol/gasoline then you have a product sufficiently diesel-like that even most modern diesels will handle it.
If using the ten inch water filter housings and the pleated filters, they are CHEAP and apparently work well.
With your existing setup, I would think the filters will block (and just bypass) extremely quickly - and are then expensive to replace.
Also your first filter enclosure (they are cheap, you can have a few), can simply pass the WVO over as strong a magnet as you can fit in the filter. A lot of garages will put ALL the crud into the waste oil tank, including the sludge. The magnet "filter" costs almost nothing, never needs replacing (just the odd clean), and can collect a surprising amount of crud.
First, I let the WMO sit for a few weeks to let the impurities sink to the bottom and then I filter the oil. In the meantime, I added two more filters, 5 and 1 micron, and I mix that oil with gasoline. Works well but I don't like the smell. 😁
Thanks for all the valuable info mate ! 👍
Amazing, and simple setup, my suggestion would be to thin your oil with your clean diesel prior to filtration.
My theory (and in my testing shows to be true ) is that particulate would be released from the thinner fluid easier as well as running through the pumps faster, I would build a pump setup like that given I had the space necessary.
I live in the states, drive a 1985 Mercedes 300D turbo OM617A
Currently running 50/50 wmo diesel mix.
Thanks man!
Now I thin the oil before refilling, but not because I had problems. The pump more easily pours the fuel it the tank. LOL This thing will run on everything that is poured into the tank.
But thanks for the advice, it seems more reasonable.
Well I'm going to have to try this on my Cummins. With the fuel going to skyrocket like the Obama administration times I need a alternative.
@Everald I don't have emissions or inspection where I live.
So my recommendation is whenever inspection is coming up fill up on regular diesel to flush any wmo out and change your filters you should be fine
With this old Mercedes engine you can run 100% wmo. If you live in a warmer area. If not then just mix 90% wmo with up to 10% regular gasoline.
@ronny8855 I fed my 85 300d turbo almost exclusively 50/50 wmo, diesel even in cold weather, my suggestion was to simply let the viscosity of the oil break down a tad and then allow some natural separation before filtering
For homesteaders, this will be great for diesel generators.
Old turbo diesel engines with a mechanical pump work best on alternative fuels. Diesel engines without turbo, at least as I read, can sometimes have problems with injectors but I can't say that from my own experience.
A lot of people drive common rail cars on WMO as well, but in a smaller percentage.
great set up for recycling - here in the states oil from fast food fryers are used - they call it Bio-Diesel
I tried vegetable oil too but it was new oil. Runs great too. 🙂
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keep the black gold content coming !
🙂 Thanks for the comment. I'll see what I can do. 😉
You needed to throw some gas in the oil to thin it out so it’s not as hard for the injection pump on the Jeep engine.
I mix about 30% diesel and it runs great.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar, for mixing using diesel to dilute oil is preferred, but gas can dilute oil faster than diesel can pretty quickly, & I have access to gas much easier than diesel, so I end up using some gas. Although I just acquired some decent used Yanmar L70s for my garden tractors that will be using motor oil. the hard part is getting a good source.
I have a mechanical pump so if the engine starts, it works. 😁
That synth bass man ..... Wooohoooooo ! That was something.
Thank you 🥳 🙏 🤘
Very interesting idea. I have the filter, I have the pump and the power supply. I also have a Cherokee 2.5td.
but.....
There's no oil left in it. 😁
Thanks for the info and the music mate!
PS: I was about to write ''I have a Cherokee. Does this system work to filter oil from water'' and decided not to be too cynical after all 😁
LOL thanks for the comment. As for the water, I leave the oil to settle for a while and never filter to the end because the water and impurities from the oil settle to the bottom.
I ran a 1998 12 valve Cummins on Black Diesel but I mixed it with RUG about 15% or 20% when it was really cold. My engine did not run smooth at high rpm on pump diesel but with the BD it ran 100%.
The gasoline thins it out for our colder climate but in the summer I thinned it with either gas or diesel depending on which one was cheaper at the pumps. The only real way too filter it right is with a centrifuge though.
You're right about filtration, but this engine loves anything you pour into a tank. I drove it for two seasons on 100% vegetable oil.
My father have also Jeep with this engine and works perfect on any type of oils too.
I also run my 96 cummins on waste oil. I mix about 25% gasoline or 35% diesel with this mixture I can remove almost the blue smoke at idle and it run perfectly. For the filtration I use five micron for filling my truck, under my truck I use a 5 micron and for the final stage I use 1 micron. I run my truck like that for about 7 year 80000 km!
@@nikwax194 Nice! I haven’t tried mixing with gasoline yet but I will.
What is "RUG"?
Thanks
@@libertyliberty2306
I think it means regular unleaded gas.
The metalic additives in terrestrial is engine oil will create a thick crust of hard ashes and it will preignite mixture after a while...
You may be right but I have read that such things happen on diesel engines and rarely on turbo diesel engines. This Jeep still works great. 🙂
hey we've written already a lot.
I'm currently finishing planning to drive black diesel on a common rail diesel car. In the next days I'll start building my set up.
The car was cheap
Cool!
I wish you a lot of free miles! 😉
I'll hope so too.
My filter set up is 100€ all in and I'll filter down to 0.2 Micron
The most expensive thing is the final 0.2 Micron filter which alone costs 40€ .
Everything else is small stuff.
Hi, tried the setup on a mercedes, runs great, engine works smooth, but having and issue with starting the car, the hotter the engine is, its taking a lot of time to start it. Did u have any issue with yours?
Mine start harder when is cold. When the engine is hot usually starts great but every now and than it takes some time to start even if it is hot. But it's the same on diesel fuel so that's normal for me. LOL
hey I've never asked you. Does your car have an additional pump in the tank or somewhere else or does the distributor pump in the engine compartment suck all the fuel from the tank to the engine
It has stock mechanical pump and that's it. Except lift kit, rims and tires, everything is stock.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar on mine I can feel in colder climate that it can't pull enough fuel and starts to cut out. Thinking about an additional suction pump before the filter
Except lift kit, wheels and tires everything is stock. 😉
5 - 10 Celsius or more and no problem. Once it starts, it will run. If it’s colder, you can add more diesel. 😉
Wow! Great!
Harley is closer... 😉
Old diesels like OM606 (UNTIL OM611 and up) dont even need mixing, they can run on anything
I drove this Jeep on 100% veg oil too. 🙂
I run with 2.2 105kw ( OM611 ) now 5000km with 50:50 Waste engine oil : diesel, and it works nice. little bit low power, and little bit more smoke.. but... all almost same
Any power difference between the 2.5 diesel vs 2.5 gas ?
Horse power are almost the same but turbo diesel has more torque.
How long does a filter last until you change it? I mean by liters?
I change the filter once a year. I haven't had a case to clog up filter yet, so...a lot. 🙂
I have been doing wmo for about 7k miles now no problem with power just not as good fuel consumption
Nice! What car and engine? Do you mix it with diesel??
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar 2.0tdi bkd
I'd do 60% diesel 40% oil
@@dantediana9229 nice! How do you filter the oil??
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar you can buy 1 micron aquarium filters I run it through them and then leave it settle for a day to separate any water
@@dantediana9229 that's great idea! That's sounds better (cleaner) than my filtration system. Thanks for the info! 👍
I was using hydraulic oil in my former VW T3 1.6td...
I read that it was the best but no way to get it. 😁
You didn't mix any normal diesel at all? I've heard you can go up to 50% emo /diesel blend ..let us know how it works over time
In the summer I drove it on 25% diesel 75% WMO. Few years ago I drove it on 100% vegetable oil without problems. But I will ad 2 more filters, 5 and 2 or 1 microns.
Are you still driving on wmo and diesel ,and do you have had issues and what are they ,also what si the best mix of oil and diesel fuel is the best
I’m not driving on WMO right now because I don’t have time to filter it. I didn't have any problems with that.
My engine was running even on 25% diesel and 75% on WMO but it really depends from car to car. Older motors with a mechanical pump work well but for starters don’t put more than 50% WMO.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar thanks for the information
I was curious to know , because those 2.5TD is famous for his problems with overheating est
@@goshogosho8368 you're welcome. As for overheating, it doesn’t matter what fuel you drive it on. I didn’t notice any difference except in the smell.
Thanks for sharing. I'm not familiar w/ the 2.5VM Motori td engine, is it rare? Always thought it'd be cool for a Jeep to have a diesel. - take care man
These XJs with 2.5 TD engines were sold in Europe and Australia I think. They are not so rare here at least they weren't. Now it's hard to find it in good shape.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Cool. How much Squeeze, compression ratio ?
@@leeisenberg compression ratio is 21:1, 116 HP and torque is 221 lb-ft.
I am no mechanic but I do suggest you change the fuel filter more regularly
You're right about that.
Your waste oil looks better then the oil in my car haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL
How is your engine doing? How long you been doing this to the engine? Thanks for the video
The engine is great but honestly I didn't drive a lot on the wmo because there's a lot of work with it. I also drove on vegetable oil for two years and it works just as well. It smells much nicer on veg oil, like a barbeque. 😁
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar what kind of work is associated with using the black diesel?
@@skyraiderjet you mean, like, get clean fuel?
Filtering process takes a lot of time.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar I noticed your process is way shorter than many others because you don’t heat the oil or run a centrifuge, but even with those things it should still be shorter than processing wvo. From your video it doesn’t look like a lot of work but correct me if I’m wrong.
@@skyraiderjet I don’t filter too much because this engine doesn’t require it. I know some put WMO from the engine directly into the tank without filtering. OK, that's crazy but this engine will run on anything.
Great video! What type of filter are you using? There are unlimited types of filters to buy... but I have trouble finding the housing and hoses...
Thanks man!
Housing is from Volvo truck if I remember correctly but I had to do some modifications and these are regular hydraulic hoses that match in diameter. The best thing to do is to go to a car parts shop and say what you want. If they don't have it there, I'm sure they can order what you need. And my advice is to take a stronger pump. The oil is thick and the pump overheats quickly.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar thank you for your reply! Will do that. I will be using this www.biltema.se/bil---mc/bilverktyg/oljeverktyg/Pumpar/fatpump-2000041983 not only for exercise but I also notice that the pump you have is quite loud (I have bad relationship with my neighbours) and now that you say that it overheats rather quickly, I think I will just use the manual pump. And buy some aquarium filter as well as someone said in the comments! :)
You will certainly not overheat manual pump! 😉🙂
Hello, i am running a 50/50 mix but I am getting a lot of blue smoke? Before i added oil into the diesel it had almost no smoke. Does anyone know how to solve this issue?
Hi!
Sometimes it smokes, sometimes not, sometimes black, sometimes gray. It probably depends on what kind of wasted oil is in the tank. Some say it can be solved if mixed with gasoline but I haven’t noticed a difference.
Svaka čast na ideji čovječe, jesi li probao sa korištenim uljem iz restorana ?
Hvala! 😁
Dvije sezone sam vozio na suncokretovo ulje, ali na čisto dok je bila velika razlika u cijeni. Dok god je vani temperatura iznad 5, 6 stupnjeva, radi na čisto biljno ulje bez kapi diesela.
Na korišteno biljno ulje isto ide samo sa tim je puno posla da se dobro filtrira, a i zbog masnoća je gusto dosta.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Pretpostavio sam, a samo mi reci molim te ovaj filter kako se stručno zove, planiram u skorijoj buducnosti da uradim sličnu stvar?
Kućište filtera je od nekakvog Volvo kamiona ili nešto slično, ali manje bitno. Možeš i 2 komada sa kućištem povezati. Prvi filter je uljni, a drugi je za diesel gorivo, taj drugi je finiji. Na početku cijevi, na usisu je još jedan mali filter za gorivo. Taj mali zaustavi veće nečistoće, uljni je puno finiji, a zadnji je najfiniji. I tim redoslijedom dosta dugo traju. Dobra stvar je da ulje prije odstoji pa se većina nečistoća spusti na dno. Kad filtriraš, ne ideš skroz do dna da ti ne povuče smeće i zaštopa filtere. Ako te još bilo šta zanima, samo pitaj! 😉
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Puno ti hvala na objasnjenju, ja sam slicno radio sa jestivim koristenim, ostavim 2 sedmice da odstoji pa fitriram sa vrha 👍😄😊
@@kerimmusovic9503 nema frke! Za koji auto/motor bi to bilo?
Waste motor oil should be thined with gasoline (20-25%) mixed well left alone for settling for about a week or more then filtered throught 2 pcs house water filters 1 micron.
I'm using gas now for WMO. 🙂
Čim sam vidio Topla akumulator, bilo mi je jasno da nisi bolan 'mer'kanac. 😆
🤣🤣🤣 Tek sad sam i ja skužio da je to Topla akumulator. 😅
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Nemreš to meni sakrit, non-stop su mi na punjaču bili. 😂
@@nz4602 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Taj je bio na Jeepu kad sam ga kupio. Ne znam koliko je bio star, ali kad se prvi put temperatura spustila na 10 stupnjeva, gotovo! 😅
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Takvi i jesu. Kad garancija iscuri, napuše se k'o nogometna lopta.
Ja sam ih zvao "Jednokratni akumulatori". Najbolji za prekupca. 😆
@@nz4602 😅👍
I'm about to order that same 12v 10gmp kit, but it didn't seem like it was moving it that fast from the tank to your Jeep. Would you recommend it if u had it to do over again?
- thanks man
You mean the 12V pump? It overheats quickly and I wouldn’t recommend it. I believe there is a good 12V pump but it should be something more quality.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Good to know, thanks for the heads up man. Does it even still work or is it just shot/worn out? Chinese crap, sounds like they should've vented it, & put some air cool fins on it. I'll be keeping my eyes & ears open. Might get a good used pump, but better than Chinese.
@@leeisenberg I had two, one died quickly. On the other one the wires and carbon brushes are changed and still works but it must not work for long if WMO is too thick. I think you will do better with a quality used pump.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Looks like H/Freight sells the exact same pump but it has a blue metallic frame & costs more. They sell a Drummond brand for about $55ish.
@@leeisenberg pay attention to flow too. The one I have can pump out 45 liters per minute (diesel fuel).
Btw how many microns do you filter and how often do you change your filters?
I use one oil filter and two fuel filters. I change them when the flow decreases.
Do you cut them open to check what's inside?
@@no-damn-alias no. I'm not that curious. 😁
nah I'd be too curious
LOL I'm afraid to open it. 😅
Hi what type of filter set up is that I have a pump already just not sure about the filters ?
Hi!
There is a small fuel filter on the hose, and of the larger ones the first is for oil and the second for diesel fuel.
Any resources to make that filter housing or similar filter housings?
My friend works in auto parts, so I explained to him what I needed. He found this and this is for some Volvo truck if I'm not mistaken. There were more choices but for this housing, the filters are cheap so that's also a good thing to consider.
Try your local auto parts store, I believe they will find something. There can be two housings, each with one filter, so they can be connected with a hose.
About the pump, buy a better one right away because this 12V pump overheats very quickly.
How does brake fluid not hurt the fuel system?
I don't know but it works. I saw a video where a guy was driving on brake fluid only. I think that the fuel system is as strong as the brake system because of the various additives in the fuel.
Can I change my fuel pump to a mechanical one on the newer jeeps? Let's say a v6 diesel 2010?
I'm not sure. 2010 is a Common-Rail diesel engine. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I'm not sure.
Is your milage the same as with normal diesl? Does your car consume slightly more?
I didn't notice any difference, mpgs or performance. Sometimes I have the feeling that it goes better, sometimes worse but I don't think there is any difference.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar ok thanks a lot. I will use black diesel on mine soon 😉
@@erwinwizzy I wish you a lot of free miles! 😉
I can not seem to find an answer, does synthetic oil work as well as real oil in this process?
I'm sure it does. I get all kinds of oil and have never had a problem.
And Where'd you get all those nice new cubies???... I could use a few of those.
I got the canisters for free from a friend who worked with detergents. There were various detergents in them.
Do you have a method for testing oil viscosity?
Hi!
No! 😁
You have to send it to a lab to have it tested. I haven't seen a home test kit.
Would this work on a 2006 6.0 ford excursion powerstroke?
If it has mechanical pump I think it would work but you should find more info. I'm sure someone has already tried it and written about it.
What kind of filter do you use ? I mean the size of the filtration
In this video the first is oil filter and second is fuel filter but thats maybe 10 microns. Now I added 2 more filters, 5 and 1 micron.
Pozdrav, koji filter (od cega) koristis za filtraciju?
Bok!
Naprijed na crijevu je običan mali filter za benzin ako se ne varam, samo je vrh odrezan. Ovo kućište je ako se dobro sjećam od nekog Volva, stroj nekakav. Prvi filter je uljni, drugi je za diesel gorivo. Nakon toga sam još dodao 2 za vodu, prvi od 5, drugi od 1 mikron. Što se ovog kućišta tiče, najbolje je u auto-dijelove ili trgovina za traktorske dijelove pa vidiš šta imaju i složiš nešto slično. Pumpa, nemoj gubiti vrijeme sa ovom od 12v jer se za minutu pregrije. Uzmi pravu 220v pumpu za ulje. Košta, ali si na miru i brzo pumpa.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Hvala na brzom odgovoru!
@@aleksandarjovanovic2894 nema na čemu. Sretno!
عیول به ولد ولدی به ولد گول نزدی مارو دمت گرم کارت درسته رفیق
Unfortunately google translate can't translate this text. 😕
Any upgrades to the fuel system?
Everything is stock. It probably depends from car to car. This Jeep likes oils. 🙂
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar wow cool, how are things going with it? Might have to clear some garage space and copy you lol
I have no problems at all. But I don’t drive on WMO all the time so I don’t know if that matters either. But if I had more time for filtering, I think I would drive all the time on WMO.
I like better to drive on used vegetable oil
i liked your filtration system you gave me a good idea
how to filter wvo
I liked the video
but running on used engine oil doesn't sound good for the planet lol
In my country there is no law on this, and in some European countries it is allowed. Europe is pretty strict about it so I hope it doesn’t pollute more than diesel. I have also similar video with vegetable oil. Engine likes both. 🙂
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar what comes out the tail pipe is significantly worse than diesel. about 100x worse.
the further away from an older mechanical injection diesel that you can actually manipulate the timing of when the fuel is injected.. the further you get from using any alternative diesel fuel efficiently. Diesel engines are timed to be combustion efficient for diesel fuel's ignition characteristics. Ultra computerized engines even finer tuned to this. Each alternative fuel has different combustion characteristic.... so to keep engine working happy you have to do something to either
1. create an alternative fuel that is near exact in combustion characteristics to diesel
2. change /trick the engines injection system to inject/ ignite the alternative fuel based on that fuels combustion characteristics.
@@coachgeo I searched, but I can't find any information about wmo and the pollution. Do you know where I can read more about it? I can't say I don't care...
@@coachgeo bullshit.
This engine is not made even for todays diesel (euro). It was made for diesel fuel which you can't buy anymore (d2).
According to that, these engines with mechanical IP will work so much better on wmo/wvo mixed with diesel.
@@srbincetnik01 wmo does leave nasty pollution. It is the additives mostly and some combustion waste that makes the nasty end of the pollution. This will be more invisible as it is coming out of the tail pipe and a lung/atmosphere pollution issue. You can clean wmo of the nasty., would be much better to use as fuel, but you have to rid of the nasty waste. That is the.... issue for a DIY person..... what to do with the waste. It is the same waste/pollution that would have gone into air if you were just running a wmo blend in the fuel tank... just condensed down into a more compacted collection of yuck that when dumped would be a bad thing for the land and animals. can't win here.
Wish I had an answer cause I want to do this too. To remove much of the contaminants use the same way WMO recycler's do; you treat it with acid to make the crap drop out. wikipedia gives brief explanation of process if you search "Recycled motor oil". Then if you want to crack the motor oil down to something closer to diesel... that process is called Pyrolysis .
am debating how Im going to go about it myself. Leaning toward acid clean and cracking further down to something closer to diesel by getting dual use of part of a Plastic Pyrolysis apparatus since the steps are near identical... in particular the last stages. Sorry cant put links to the numerous studies and discussions I can pull up for you. No url's allowed here. Have even tried to disguise the url but youtube still catches it and removes the whole message
best of luck to you.
U can put this oil in your M51 BMW engine powered jeep but if u do this to an new engine with comonrail u blown engine!
I read that a lot of them also drive common rails on WMO but in a smaller percentage. I wouldn't try that though.
Is the smell of the exhaustsmoke difference?
Yes, it is much stronger.
what oil is it that is yellow ,, cover the red jerry can
63 used oil
21 of diesel
Yellow oil is diesel fuel. 😉
I put some diesel fuel to dilute the oil. Like you said, 63 l used oil and 21 l diesel fuel, about 30%.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Thank you very much my friend ,,, have shared knowledge ,,,
@@honocoroko448 no problem man! Cheers! 🙋🏻♂️
Druze jel potrosnja manja veca el ista ?
Bok! Nisam nikad točno mjerio, iako sam čitao da je svima manja potrošnja. Više manje, sve je isto kao i na diesel. Ovisno od tanka do tanka, nekad sam imao osjećaj da i dosta bolje ide. To isto i drugi kažu.
Old Hi lux 1kz will work well loves wmo
Mechanical pumps love WMO. 🙂
Gotta hand it to ya' man, I've hear of using 50% WMO black diesel, but you're using how much, 75% er more?... TTYL man, - take care
This engine runs on anything. I have video with 100% veg oil in the tank... 😁
Hi. Can you try using 15% Gasoline blended with 85% waste motor oil? This should be the same viscosity as the 30% diesel and 70% waste motor oil. Also did you notice any unusual smell of combusted 70% motor oil compared to 100% diesel?
I didn't try mix with gasoline but that should work, maybe even better. Yes the smell is different compared to diesel, you cant miss it. I like the smell of vegetable oil much more! 😁
gasoline to thin out the waste oil doesn't work. Tried it and it's shit. The petrol evaporates on the hot injector tip after you stop the engine and some of it in the high pressure line. 5% petrol is the maximum you can do and then already you need to crank the engine pretty long. It's way worse with more than 5%. At 10% I had endless cranking after stopping the engine hot.
works on commun rail diesel engines ?i have a Honda I-CTDI 2.2 ? anyone using it after good filtration ?
It should work but in a smaller percentage. I read some people put 30% WMO in common rail diesels and a friend of mine put 50/50 in a 2006 Renault and the car ran the same. I would try first with 30% and see how it behaves, then if it runs great, I would put 40% in the next tank...
Pre 2000 diesel cars can be run on almost anything. Modern cars will have problem with fuel injectors, Egr and so on…
True and I like older cars anyway! 😁
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar they are the best and reliable. My friend dad had old mercedes w124 and probably went over 1 million kilometers. The clock didnt work for over 20 years hahaha. He used almost everything as fuel. Sunflower oil, old engine oil what ever the car could burn he pour inside the tank 🤣
@@PajaPatakBrakeTheLaw I agree about old cars. For two years, I also drove on vegetable oils. I like vegetable oil more because I prefer the smell of barbecue! 😅
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar hahaha that is true. Also vegetable oil is make zero pollution compared with diesel and old engine oil. Also it has better lubrication properties. Thats why we dont have it on gas stations 🤦♂️🤣
@@PajaPatakBrakeTheLaw I'm afraid that's true.
When I poured the veg oil for the first time, I immediately noticed that the engine was running much quieter - lubrication properties. 🙂
With todays gas prices damn can any diesel run that ? I have pump diuse euro 3 1.9tdi.
What year? A friend of mine tried it a few days ago in 2005 Renault with a common rail engine. For now, everything is great and has more power.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar 2003 vw sharan
@@christiann7320 I'm not sure but google it. I'm sure someone tried it.
Great idea but there’s more to it than just filtering.
You're probably right but it works great if it's not too cold. Even when is cold works great if WMO is properly mixed with diesel or gas.
Not really. There was a guy more than 5 years ago I'm trying to re-find. He used WMO filtered, de-watered (using a barrel heater) and run through a centrifuge (another filter type thing), then added 15% regular unleaded gas (RUG) and drove a ton.
@@shannonp4037 I've seen that guy's video not long ago. That's basically a distillation process. His sistem costs a LOAD of money. He invested in it because he's got access to tons of WMO and produces 1000L at a go. I think he sells it then as cheap diesel fuel.
I wander if there's a cheap way to at least reduce the carbon/ash content of WMO.
Also, it seems that turbo diesel cars don't have problems running with WMO/gasoline mix in 4 to 1 radio.
You can also add some solvent to keep injectors clean and build a HHO generator (which i have just done). That enhances the burning of oil/fuel.
I have an engineer friend who did this in his 2013 Mercedes Diesel and he said it constantly fouled his injectors.
Modern diesel engines are not happy with WMO but these old engines will run on anything.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Thanks for clarifying that about old diesel engines. Does my 1994 Cummins 5.9L 12 valve with a P-pump...fit into that category of "old era diesel engines" ?
@@lmnopxyz5796 my XJ is 97 so yes, I would try it. P-pump is mechanical pump and it should work. For the first time, try with 30% of WMO and every tank you can add more and you will se how it would work. Just try to mix it before you puring it in the tank. Now in the winter I use 20% of gas for the mix and works great.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Thank you for your detailed reply and for taking time to help me!
@@lmnopxyz5796 no problem. If you have any more questions, just ask.
Moze li za nas sa Balkana pojasnjenje oko filtecije sta tacno da se radi, hvala unaprijed !!
Naravno. 🙂
Prvo ulje ostavim da odstoji da se ono gusto spusti na dno (iako to više ne radim). Nakon toga filtriram kao što vidiš, to je da se uklone nečistoće iz ulja. Na cijevi na početku je mali filter goriva, drugi je uljni i filter za diesel gorivo je zadnji (ovaj veći). Sad planiram dodati još dva filtera, jedan od 5 mikrona i zadnji od 1 mikron tako da bude što čišće. Ovaj Jeep bez problema radi i ovako, ali na 1 mikron ne može ništa proći osim čistog ulja pa se može točiti i u common rail motore u nekom postotku.
Kad filtriram, ne ispraznim cijeli kanistar. Ostavim nekoliko cm od dna da ne zaštopa filtere jer se dolje sakupi nečistoća iz ulja.
Miksao sam sa diesel gorivom, u zadnje vrijeme sa benzinom. Benzina je dosta 20% zimi, a sad kad je toplije i 10%. Miksa se zato jer je ulje pregusto za većinu motora i da lakše upali na hladno.
Ako te zanima bilo koji detalj, samo pitaj. 😉
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar imam 124ku tako da me uglavnom interesoalo filtriranje i mijesanje, znaci mogu sa onim pred filterom malim na izvlacenje i da ga propustim tipa kroz dva fultera dizel goriva kao na autu sto su i onda 5 pa 1 mikron filtere na kru pomijesano sa benzinom i radi sve ? Mislio sa da treba kerosin ili nesto kao kad prave biodizel od przenog ulja ali
@@DaniloMarkovic-jz5pk 124 bi trebao raditi na to, pogotovo ako je turbo. Turbo dieseli to lakše gutaju. Onaj mali filter na početku ja imam čisto da ne povuče nešto pa da ne zaštopa ove iza. Nakon toga je filter za ulje pa onda za diesel gorivo. Taj za ulje je malo grublji, ovaj za gorivo je finiji. Ovaj za ulje na nekom pritisku ako se i zaštopa, propustit će ulje, ali na ovom za gorivo će se zaustaviti. Onda znaš da ih treba zamijeniti. Ovi od 5 i 1 mikron su filteri za vodu, to je da si siguran da nema nikakvih nečistoća koje bi mogle oštetiti pumpu na autu itd. Kod mene to odlično radi.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar nista iskopirscu tvoj set-up pa cu ici do 1 mikrona cisto zbog mirne glave, HVALA PUNO !!!!
@@DaniloMarkovic-jz5pk nema na čemu. Želim ti puno jeftinih kilometara! 😉
What is your engine type ? Crdi or straight old ?
Old type of turbo diesel engine with mechanical Bosch pump.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar i try used engine oil my old Fiat tractor nice idea greetings from Turkey
Thanks!
Greetings from Croatia!! 🙋🏻♂️
@@Largo5441 nasıl oldu ne zman dir kullanıyorsun motora zararı oldu mu
@@m.alisepik7826 Genel de sıcak havalarda yağ koyuyorum. Bir de enjektör memeleri zaten değişmek istiyor bu nedenle yağ koymakta sakınca yok. Motora hiç bir zararı olmadı.
Može li broj kučišta od filtera i od filtera?
Hey!
Trenutno nisam na adresi gdje to filtriram. Kućište filtera je od nekakvog Volvo stroja. Prvi filter je filter za ulje, a drugi je za diesel. Na početku je običan mali filter za diesel. Ako nije problem, sjeti me sutra ranije u neko doba pa pošaljem brojeve filtera.
which pump did you use to filter?
It's a cheap 12V pump fr diesel fuel and oil, but I would recommend a better one because this one overheats quickly.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar does it shutoff when overheating? How long did it last so long? For how many liters? It seems to have a good pressure for the filters compared to other cheap pumps
@@no-damn-alias no it doesn't shutof and after a minute it starts to smoke. 😅
It is great for diesel fuel but struggles with oil. I would not recommend it because then the whole process takes a very long time.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar ok so which pump are you using then? I mean you have filtered a few liters
Now over the winter I didn’t even drive on oil, I didn’t have time to filter. But the pump broke down so I connected it to an electric drill. 😉
Does it smell deferently?
Yes it does. I like smell of veg oil much better
waste oil how micron filtretion ?
To be honest I don't know. I use one oil filter and two for diesel fuel. It’s an old type of engine and it works perfectly. 🙂
Bok! Misliš da može isto sa Common Railom?
Bok!
Može, ali u manjem postotku. Frend ima neki Renault kombi, 2006. mislim i pola-pola natanka. Radi jednako, jedino nešto više dimi.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Planiram probati kod sebe, samo što sa filtracijom do 0,5 microna i s doatkom hemije koja malo pročisti dizne, kao toluen, ksilen, aceton. Isti sustav imaju dodaci za gorivo.
A šta se tiče WVO - loš izbor, jer ostaje parafin u filteru goriva.
@@marekzippel5638 to je svakako bolja opcija. Slabije ide na WMO i nakon što natočim diesel, performanse se vrate tek 3. tank diesela. Treba mu da se pročisti.
@@marekzippel5638 nisam nikad imao problem s tim, čak i zimi pali dobro ako nije baš debelo ispod nule. Ok, svaki servis promijenim i filter goriva da sam siguran.
did you keep doing it?
Yes, but not all the time. Sometimes I don't have wasted oil and there is a lot of work about it. 😁
So you mix is like 20% of diesel.to the vegetable oil but online they said either 20% gas or 50% diesel so why just 20% that still good ??
I also drove on 100% veg oil. It works great and starts without problems when the temperature is up to 10 Celsius / 50 Farenheit, even lower. Now I drive it on WMO and currently mix it with 10-20% gasoline, depending on whether it's summer or winter but this engine swallows everything. If you're going to do it, start with a lower percentage and see how it behaves, then increase the percentage of oil a little.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar ok thanks for the info i mix it with gasoline cheaper its just 20% but i might try with diesel as well
@@toyotat100rules should be fine with both but you need less gasoline. Cheers!
Im from canada cold so i guess that why i need to add more mix so the vegetable oil doesnt freeze up lol
@@toyotat100rules from my experience gasoline is better for cold weather. 😉
bok, koliko si kilometara napravio na rabljenom motornom ulju?
Bok!
Ne znam točno, jer sam prošlu zimu vozio na diesel, nije uvijek ulje bilo u tanku. Dok je ulje bilo oko 5-6kn, vozio sam na suncokret dvije godine. 😁
Zadnjih nekoliko tisuća km je bilo isključivo na ulje.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar a kakav je miris dok si vozio na rabljeno motorno ulje? Je li jako smrdelo kao pokvarena jaja?
@@antoniosestar3671 pa dosta je jak miris. Teško je objasniti kakav, kao ta neka stara ulja za strojeve, samo se jače osjeti...
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar hvala na odgovoru, ja planiram prerađivati rabljeno motorno ulje u pogonsko ulje, ali još moram smisliti način kako ukloniti sumpor iz ulja i neugodne mirise
@@antoniosestar3671 nema na čemu. Kažu da miješanje sa benzinom neutralizira mirise, ali nisam primijetio neku razliku. Ja sam imao dosta ulja za diferencijale i skužio sam da to ulje ima puno jači miris od motornog.
Za koji auto/motor ako nije tajna?
What system is this
You mean the filters? At the beginning of the hose is a small fuel filter. The other two, the first is an oil filter and the second is a diesel fuel filter. I plan to add two more filters, 5 and 1 micron.
I want to get a oil centrifuge
That's probably the best for WMO. I will add two more filters.
Where’d you buy the filters?
Car parts store. I found filters and housings from some Volvo truck. They are cheap and easily available here in Croatia.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCarNice.
I’m thinking I can buy a fuel filter system from a semi truck at the commercial vehicle dismantling yard.
Going to start running black diesel in my 1999 24v Cummins pick up truck
@nikasumo In the meantime, I added 2 more water filters, 5 and 1 micron. About the pump, don't make mistake like I did. The 12v pump is a waste of time, it overheats. Now I bought an electric oil pump. It is way faster.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar You mean an electric one that plugs into a wall outlet?
@@nikasumo yes I forgot to mention that. 😁
Can it be done on Crdi engine?
I’ve read that some do this with common rail engines, but in a much smaller percentage.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar like 50/50?
@@sagarsalunke2417 more like 30 WMO/70 diesel but it depends on engine. You should google about your engine type. I’m sure you’ll find something because I remember reading a lot about it and people driving the common rail at WMO as well.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar bro im using Scorpio SZ2600 Crde engine from mahindra Scorpio
@@sagarsalunke2417 does it have a mechanical pump or a common rail system?
Where did u get your filters & housing? I need to get both for my 'new' 120v pump. Got my 12v pump like yours for collecting wvo, & when I was shopping online think I saw on 1 of the 12v pumps a 30min./1/2hr. duty cycle, so that makes sense after what u told me about them overheating. You need to get a 120v pump if u haven't already, like this or something similar, Cactus Bob in AZ has it going on man: ua-cam.com/video/EtyWEzuCIrw/v-deo.html
- take care man
I bought the filters at a car parts store. These double filters with housing are from a Volvo truck if I remember correctly. I saw filters like that in online marine stores for boats etc. This is great pump on this link. 👍
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Thanks man, do u remember about how much $$ for the double filters? I've got to start shopping for 1 soon.
@@leeisenberg you're welcome. I don't remember exactly. A friend of mine works in an auto parts store so he found me a housing with filters. When buying a housing pay attention to the prices of the filters so that they are not too expensive to replace.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Okay cool, thanks. I think any truck diesel fuel filter will work well. Did u watch that Cactus Bob clip? He's got a good setup, filters coming in And going out. - take care man
@@leeisenberg no problem! I don't remember but I will take a look. Cheers and I wish you many many cheap miles! 😉
I'm jealous
I have a eco crap dodge diesel
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL but mine is so slow...
BTW nice bike on the thumbnail. 👍
guess I inspired you :)
You drivo on WMO too??
Well you commented on my cold start video on waste transmission oil about a year ago and we had a small conversation in the comment box. Told me that it's legal in Croatia
I remember now. Do you still drive it on WMO and did you have any problems?
Well I figured that petrol is a bad idea to thin your wmo. It does a great job making the oil thinner but after you stop the engine the petrol evaporated on the hot injector tip making it hard to start so I switched to diesel which worked fine hot and cold. I modified my glow plug relais so it pre glowed 45 seconds no matter what the temperature was. My biggest problem was smoke under heavy load and a leaking injector pump. The smoke was a blown turbo hose and I changed the gaskets on the injector pump. Worked like a dream but unluckily somebody rear ended m, car catastrophically. Not worth fixing it and it probably was impossible too. The rear axle moved forward about 10cm so sold it. Somebody came and bought it for the parts. In between I had a car with LPG and for some waste oil fun a Peugeot 106 diesel. I got the 106 for free so of course I took it. It ran much better with the waste oil. It'd start right up even at -5 with almost 100% waste oil. But slow and loud. I gave it away to a family friend who just made his driving licence. So now I'm driving on LPG as it's also very cheap and far less of an hassle as 4 months ago my son was born. How is your experience so far. I hope you, your family and property are fine sfter the earthquake
Thanks, I really appreciate it. We are OK. I was at the quake site on Saturday as a volunteer because they were looking for people with off-road vehicles. My team was of 5 vehicles and we drove food and essentials to hard to reach places. I will go again because these people really need help.
Good to know about gas and WMO. I mix it with diesel fuel and it works great.
1gallon used oil , 4 gallons of gasoline ..pored thru coffee filters ..shake up ..brown gasoline , works good
Works well in a gasoline engine? That would be too much gasoline for my engine. 😁
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar I use this mix in my gas engines whenever I have used oil get rid of
@@relaxingnature2617 cool! Is it a newer engine?
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar most of my vehicles are efi 2006 caravan ..2000 Chevy Truck ..2012 kawasaki Quad ATV with efi , motorbikes . ..I usually mix at 20% ..but when I mix at 10% it feels like more power than just gas ..I think that's because detonation is slightly delayed , same effect as octane booster gives
@@relaxingnature2617 so it works on modern vehicles too... Is there any smoke?
Ran WMO in my 7.3 IDI F250 for about a month, and it ruined my injectors. Oil doesn't burn well ,and you get a lot of Coking in the cylinders.
What happened? Did you lost power or engine didn't want to run at all?
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Engine wouldn't start, i changed the fuel filters and drained the fuel tank, and added fresh diesel, it still wouldn't start. I had to get rebuilt injectors and change out the precups that were full of very hard carbon.
OK, thanks. I'm currently on diesel fuel anyway. 😁
I had the same issue with my mercedes om617 engine, I had a mix of 50% kerosene / 50% wmo cleaned thu diy centrifuge . The engine run quieter and had more power. But all my prechamber were full of carbon buildup after just 3 days and didn't want start even after adding straight diesel. I had to pull and clean them.
@@tsitohainaranto1005 I don't have problems for now and I hope it will stay like that. Cold start is not like on diesel fuel but it starts.
hi , still work ?:)
Yes sir!
No problems at all. 🙂
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar hmm i must try...:) But i have CDI
@@groobo1 my engine is old type of turbo diesel with mechanical pump. Read and see what they say about your engine. I remember that I once came across a forum about alternative fuels etc. A lot of information can be found on the internet for a lot of different types of engines.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar I watched on UA-cam that the cdi also drives on it ... I'm a bit afraid ... but curiosity will probably win
@@groobo1 filter well and gradually add WMO and you will see. I hope everything will be OK.
Zna balkanac, kako ustedit...😉🤣
😅😅 A jbg, moramo.. 😅
Part numbers?
Unfortunately, I don't have part numbers. The system is assembled from various parts, and a friend who worked at the parts store no longer works there.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar the filters don't have part numbers on the side?
@@justawfulgamer7738 the filter housing is from some kind of Volvo machine or truck, I don't remember exactly. First filter is oil filter and the number is: COF103101S and the second (bigger) is fuel filter, number on it is: TQ - FG0001
I'm from Europe so I don't know if that makes a difference.
After a while I added 2 more filters, 5 and 1 micron. These are water filters. I hope that helps.
Można skontaktować się na priv?
You mean a private message?
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar yes, you are from poland?
@@matrixx991 no, I'm from Croatia.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar license plates look very similar to polish so i thought you are from poland. Anyway, i will ask here: how is your engine performing and long term? I have a huge problem of junk sitting at the end of injector tips that makes my engine smoke a lot, have no power and its hard to start. Its vw 1.6td.
So far, so good. Last two seasons I was driving on vegetable oil and this season on WMO. Everything is just like with diesel fuel.
How long you use WMO as a fuel?
I can’t TRUST a MAN that DONT WEAR A BELT.
LOL OK. 😅
Still nasty oil
It is but it works. 😁
Nice start...... after you replace the injection pump or whole engine then you will start over with far better filtration; that is not near enough. Nor is that enough mixing of the diesel wmo either. (or you will read up more and more and save your engine by improving what you have real soon)
Also be aware the stuff coming out your exhaust is now extremely nasty. 100x worse than diesel.
All the above can be mitigated. Nothing unfortunately in life is easy.
With the last sentence, I couldn't agree more.
Waste oil is used in industry to run boilers if you don't burn it someone will. Recycling oil is a lie they burn it. its not used as engine oil again its used for heating energy
Hate the music background.
Sorry I'm shy in front of a camera and English is not my native language, that's why there is music.
@@V8AmericanMuscleCar Thanks. But honestly just be yourself and get rid of that music. People relate more to others that have faults. SO dont worry about that.
I find videos like this absolutely useless it's alright for you you know what you are doing but you are not explaining what you were doing and why yes I know the idea is to correct diesel from engine oil please explain the process to make the video useful instead of playing the crappy music to hear you discuss what is happening and why and how long it takes would be far more beneficial
You may be right but there is not much to explain. If you are interested in any details, ask.