5 BIGGEST PROBLEMS With Electric Cars That Will Make You Think Twice
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- 5 biggest problems with electric cars you must know before buying one. We explain the biggest problems with owning an electric car that you might not know about. Are electric cars worth it? Are electric cars better than gas cars? Are electric cars the future? Are electric cars more reliable? How long do the batteries last? Are electric cars safe? Are electric cars sustainable or better for the environment? If you are buying a new electric car or electric SUV, make sure to watch this video.
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I think one major issue is not mentioned. Its ability to repair the vehicle after minor accident. Slight damage to the battery compartment may result in the need to completely replace battery or qualify your car as a total loss due to the cost of battery replacement . Also a lot of body shops cannot perform repairs. You have to go to manufacturer certified shops which increases cost by a lot.
Exactly! And while insurance companies will protect themselves from that with higher premiums, this is precisely why EVs are not for real world ownership.
I mean if you damage the battery pack it wasn’t a small accident. It’s like saying a small crack to your engine block is not easily replaced.
@@matthewmanzi9504 and one can damage it in simple fender bender or by driving over a simple debris on the highway . The tolerance of ICE cars in these cases much higher. Exactly. This I think this alone will raise insurance cost exponentially when we start to have more and more of those. Unless electric cars will become really disposable commodity with 3 year life cycle. In order for it to happen on the mass scale, the cost of a new ev car should be brought down to around 10-15k
@matthewmanzi9504 look for some videos about the Ioniq 5 from Hyundai. Seems some owners had little scratches on the battery cover and they were quoted with battery replacement (50k...😮)
Americans typically and usually miss very important points when talking about any issue.
I got quote from my Erie car insurance: 2023 Tesla Y Long Range is $1685/year….2024 Toyota RAV4 Prime Plugin Hybrid is $750/year
Bad driver men mine went down weird fake info
Depending on your policy as well. Dont think its fake just not well explained
Mine is $1648 yearly on my new 2023 Model Y long range through Tesla insurance. I live in LA county. I think that is decent for full coverage with a $1k deductible. AAA wanted a ridiculous 4K a year for full coverage.
I pay $485 a year on my 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis. Liability only, and I'm the only covered driver. There are HUGE benefits to owning and driving an old car. Not only cheap insurance, but no car payments. Especially if you are a mechanic like I am.
Someone says bad driver, not at all. In most cases Erie will never insure high risk drivers. I have Erie for everyday divers and business vehicles, farm, and I had a like experience. I pay by the year for full tort and full coverage on four units including my Harley, under a grand. I had to sell my Honda Insight with a stick after messing up my one hand. I asked about buying a used Leaf EV just for local use; Erie wanted more for it than all the others combined.
20 years ago digital cameras were crappy and expensive. Today they are fantastic and cheap. The early adopters paid for the R&D that drove costs down and improved quality. Same story with EVs
They were mostly replace, with smartphones, by the time they took off
I would agree if it weren't for the fact that now digital cameras are used in one of two major ways. Highly expensive professional use which is still thousands of dollars or cheap use such are dash cams and phone cameras.
All these issues are coming up more and more here in Ireland to the extent than some garages wont even take them as a trade in
Been wondering about reports of EV sales having cratered in the EU. Not being able to trade it in could be a big reason. It certainly would be for me.
I suppose Ireland is a great place to look for a cheap second-hand EV.
@@runeaanderaa6840 Just about anywhere is good for a used BEV. They don't sell. The depreciation is equal to a luxury ICE car even when it's the bottom of the barrel BEV, 40% in less than 3 years.
That’s a major issue here in Brazil as well. Used car shops and garages are simply refusing to accept EVs in trades. They claim that used EVs are extremely hard to sell, so they prefer to avoid them entirely.
@@Alexsdiver It's the smart move.
My biggest objection regarding EVs is the Government trying to force them on us. EVs are great for some and not so much for others. The decision should be up to the buyer, not big brother.
cuz.....BIG CORPORATIONS (oil and auto industry) are the BETTER big brother...
amiright?
Free market is the better "big brother" or "invisible hand." @@darthvirgin7157
Excellent overview! We bought a Kia Sorento PHEV with absolutely no regrets. We charge the battery at home and have only purchased four tanks of gas since buying it in June of last year. Ninety plus percent of people only drive an average of forty to sixty km’s per day and will go on an extended trip one or two times per year. This, i believe, greatly reduces the need for public charging stations. And finally, the increase to our hydro bill has been negligible!
Same here!! When my math calculation showed that 90% of my driving was purely my commute, I dropped everything, and bought a used Ford Fusion Energi plug-in with a tiny 9.5 kw battery. Thirty-five cents of electricity (two hours for a full charge) would cover my commute completely, but my employer is happy to let me charge up completely at work (five hours for a full charge) instead of me doing it at home. So my commuting cost is ZERO. Even after I return home from work with the battery nearly depleted because I didn't charge up at work, after dinner I've got a full battery again (40k in winter, 50k in summer) for using some part of that 10% personal use driving. Three tanks of gas used per year, and no car-ownership inconvenience whatsoever. With ICE I used 34 tanks of gas per year. UGH
PHEV battery and motor functions the same way as EV except they are far less powerful and efficient. If PHEV can handle your daily commute, EV can handle it better.
PHEV is just not solely battery dependent & yes issue with EVs of reliability almost same on PHEV batteries but you don’t have to wait to get charge to drive. Its good for 20-30 miles everyday commute
@@mr.mahmudhossain8033 it’s better to just go with ICE if you drive only 20-30 miles a day. Hard to make up the extra phev premium cost, especially if it involves highway and/or winter driving.
If you drive over 40-50 miles a day, the PHEV battery is not enough. At that point, it’s better to go with the EV.
That’s why I believe PHEV is a middle product that does not fit well for any driving circumstances.
charge EV at home is effortless. Occasional long distance road trip is not that bad either.
@@DVinCanada Here in the UK, I have a Toyota Prius Excel Phev 2020 and it is more efficient than the Prius HEV version. EVs are not as efficient as you think when are on the motorway or when driving in extremes of temp or going up a hill. For me, the cost of owning (insurance, depreciation, unscheduled repairs, fuel, road tax) a Toyota Prius Excel 2020 PHEV is cheaper than an MG4 Trophy EV. Similarly, it is cheaper for me to own a Toyota Corolla 2L Excel HEV than a MG4 Trophy EV.
460.000km on my Tesla S. No nightmares of whatsoever, more reliable then any of the dead reliable cars I used to own, like W124 for example. One battery rebuilt, one motor preventive rebuilt, otherwise almost nothing, just small, easily repairable stuff.
Nice cope
You're aware a battery rebuild would still be considered major maintenance right? That's on par with replacing a fuel tank in a normal ice car
@@charlesbarden2970 c'mon, be serious. I can replace a gas tank in an hour, while battery takes a few days of work.
@user-zo4wp4lg8i nah a rebuild is just replacing a couple burned out cells it's just a bit of soldering. I used to work with very similar lithium cells in another industry gotta be careful but it's not too bad
@@charlesbarden2970 a bit of soldering, you are right about that. But it still takes a lot more, too. A few days of work.
It's interesting to consider whether these are "problems" with the cars? Or whether people's habits have to change. Using public charging for anything other than long distance travel is a fools errand. If you don't have home or work level 2 charging, don't get an electric car. You MUST precondition the battery in cold temperatures. If the car doesn't support that, or your lifestyle doesn't, then don't get an electric car. It turns out one of the problems with the Chicago event was there were a lot of uber drivers participating in the hertz electric car sharing program. They had cars that were near empty that were not pre-conditioned, so when they showed up at public charging to charge their car, it didn't work.
The behaviors of the drivers didn't match the expectations of the car. (not preconditioned, no charging at home). That turned into a "run on the bank", where the charging stations were basically taken by abandoned or cars charging at very low rates.
I'm sure if I go back in the youtube archives from 1918 I'd see a whole set of videos on how horses were better than automobiles (having to take the car to a petrol station? When I can just leave the horse in a field and it fuels itself? That will never work!)
For people looking to buy electric cars today, you MUST look at your lifestyle and willingness to change. And if it doesn't fit for you, then don't buy one. It's that simple. they will improve over time.
We’ve owned a Bolt EUV for two years and live in Seattle. We haven’t had any issues. We mostly drive in the city though. We also own a charger at home. Had to deal with public charging for the first year. Accessibility wasn’t great due to copper thieves cutting charger cables. Since we got our own charger, no issues there. We did one road trip to Vancouver with a stop to charge in between. As for insurance, we now pay less than when we owned a Honda civic, so I call BS on the insurance pricing, at least in Seattle. I do agree with the fact that EVs are not for everyone.
Replacing a new Bolt, 25k; Replacing a Model Y, 90k. That explains it…😊😅😅
I have news for you. Insurance companies haven’t full priced in the cost of a battery fire. Maritime insurance is going through the roof and ferry or transporting your car overseas may not be possible. As the number of vehicles on the road increases, we shall see how often battery fires occur. China is the king of EV ownership, and they’re seeing a lot of battery fires. Personally, I would put one in my garage that’s attached to a house, or even wither 30 feet of a house. When a battery goes up, everything combustible around it goes up too.
@@georgewilliams4679 battery fires can originate from ordinary batteries lying around in your house. I’ve seen it happen. There’s always a risk of things going wrong, nothing is perfect. I don’t own a garage and park my car outside so it’s not really an issue if the battery starts to act.
First of all, I’m sorry that you live in Seattle, second of all I’m sorry that you purchased an EV
@@spittinvenom9843I’m sorry you were born a narrow minded republican troll. I love where I live and am very happy with my car.
My nightmare ended quickly when I sold my EV !! Now it's someone else's nightmare
Well 2 years in n I'm still enjoying the benefits n savings of my 2018 leaf.
@@3rreid Report back in 8 years.
Now the pollution you’re causing is everyone’s nightmare
Great review I keep my vehicles 30 plus years. My 96 Accord still has allot of life left in it!
U can’t afford a new car 😂😂😂
Now that's what I call being environmentally friendly! Taking great care of my 2015 Mazda 3, hopefully it goes the distance!
I can buy whatever I want; but I prefer to count my $100 bills and not burn them. Still have my mint 69 z28 7k miles, I collect! @@bobbyr8071
Prefer to count my $100 bills rather than burn them!@@bobbyr8071
@@bobbyr8071 why spend it on a new car when you can spend it on vacation and or hobbies
This is not based on factual information but based on feeling and what is read in the news.
and MUSKYfanboys ARE the epitome of overfeelings and oblivious facts.
Let me guess you drive an EV and this information offends you?
@@charlesbarden2970 there is a myth campaign here in the UK because of this sort of thing. Not offended because it does not affect me directly but I can imagine it slows down the rights for everyone to breathe clean air especially in our cities or near our schools.
I live in Denmark, where EV´s have taken a remarkable part of the market. 40% of all sold new cars are EV´s, on top a lot of 6-12 months old cars are imported from other countries, especially Germany, making EV´s take more than half of the car market these years.
I know a lot of people driving them, and they claime, that there is no going back. Reliabillity is higher and costs are lower, and the driving experience is much better due to more power and linear delivery.
Lower taxes on EV´s and high taxes on fossile fuel are important incentives to drive EV´s, but also the charging infrastructure is very important. And the latter has exploded tha last few years, so you can go anywhere when you want to.
Another important incentive to drive EV´s is the ban of fossile fuel cars in cities from 2030, that might be the final nail to the coffin for petrol and diesel cars.
Batteries are hardly ever replaced on EV´s, they are rebuilt at a much lower cost, making older EV´s retain good value over the years.
Development of better EV´s is an ongoing process, but devellopment does not make older cars worse. Hence if your car serves you good, it will go on doing so.
Advise when buying EV´s would be somthing like stay away from the Japanese cars, they generally sucks, Only Nissan Ariya is a nice car. Buy one with preconditioning of the battery, and software that guides you to charging points when on tour, and with a deasant charging curve. From 20 to 80% in 30 minutes in cold weather is nice. Don´t forget that people rarely charges outside their home.
In Singapore.... an ICE BMW X3 is USD240K whereas Tesla Model Y is selling at USD160K. So I just placed an order for a Tesla with USD80K spare for 2-3 times of battery replacements. Haha.
I imagine when cars first came out and there were very little gas stations around people missed their horses, so I guess eventually there will be charging stations everywhere and cars will be able to recharge quickly, then like the horse, gas guzzlers will rarely be used.🤔
The replacement cost of the battery alone would keep me away. Too risky.
The average lifespan of an EV battery assembly is 15 years and then it can still be used in non-automotive use afterward. Average car lifespan is 12 years.
@@glennmartin6492 12 lol. In Europe it's 20
Good! Do European cars travel less average mileage than North American?
All battries and drive train items on all electric vehicles is 10 years.no worry
Tesla also tests and reports show 500k miles or more with the same main traction battery
We are in a very early and messy stage of EV adoption particularly here in Canada's frigid temperatures. I'm a plug-in guy who went from 34 tanks of gas per year with ICE, 24 tanks with my hybrid, and now only 3 tanks with my plug-in charging half my tiny 9.5 kw battery at home for 15 cents, and half at work for free. That's a fifteen cent commute. In 17 months my savings covered every single expense of switching from hybrid to a used Ford Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid. And using my engine and muffler only one tenth of the average user, should make my electric motor-enhanced engine last ten times longer. Oil changing is ridiculous - it looks brand new when you drain it! With a plug in, you receive the most important benefit of owning a car - freedom to go anywhere, at any time, in any climate. Every time I meet an EV owner I shake their hand and profusely thank them for their purchase during this hugely difficult, risky and costly early period as we move to the tipping point, improve the grid and start selling our old batteries for re-use in non-automotive capacities.
That's nice! I'm planning to get a Niro PHEV in the future. How many miles/KM per year are you doing?
I have a Tesla M3 long range and it is the best car I have ever had.
My wife also want an electric car due to how well my Tesla behaves in the winter!!
She now have a Lexus hybrid, we live in Sweden and we can charge at home.
If you cannot charge at home, you should not have an electric car.
I feel loke there are a lot of information missing from some of your points.
The charging at low temperature is very much impacted by your vehicle having a heat pump or not. Not all ev are equiped the same re charging tech. I just did a Mtl - Toronto at -15c with zero issues.
Chargers are also more numerous every day, and if you're in quebec, its never an issue. The "issues" with charging varry from territory.
Prices for bateries come from the lack of stocks right now. That can improve over time.
EVs are a solution for daily transportation and hybrids for long distance drive. Or even better, take the train for long distance trips.
This is WAY overly negative. EV ownership is pretty amazing. As a Tesla owner for three years, I’ll never buy a gas vehicle again. No oil changes, extra storage, better performance, brake pads that rarely need replaced, and I save about $130 a month on gas (after charging).
Of course there are some charging concerns if you buy an EV without a garage & a home charger/220v outlet in your garage. But these are amazing vehicles!
Yeah, he's a hater. My wife has a 2013 leaf. It's no tesla, but it isn't junk either. The thing is quick, quiet, efficient, little to no maintenance, cheap as hell to charge and convenient. Just charge and go. We have had zero issues. Once they figure out sodium-ion batteries, electric will kill the gas industry. Li-ion just isn't capable.
I’m a used Tesla ❤ owner. Mine is ten years old. The low resale value meant a low price for mine. 😅 While the range is only 220 miles, so is my bladder’s tolerance. If/when I face a new battery, a rebuild is only $8k. 😮 not $56k mentioned in the video. BTW, recharge is free for life 😊. Everyone I ever met with a Tesla wants to replace it with another, fancier Tesla. Snow all wheel drive and range have not been a problem . My neighbor, the retired Fire Captain tells me non EVs burn 10X more often than mine.
As for the savings and money I beg to differ. I save more money, driving EV than any of the cars that I’ve had and as far as insurance there is no difference in insurance Ashley, my EV cost less than insure than my BMW and my hummer.
I just charged up my EV at home for nothing the past weekend as on an agile electric tariff ... as we roll forward the fast charges on the road will drop and ICE is dead
I charge at home, so nope not worried about public chargers. Besides, Tesla chargers are the best. Never seen one ever broken unless it was vandalized
No thanks. Let others be guinea pigs not me
says the v8 engine driver...
You didn’t mention fire initiated in any number of ways…but Fire Departments can’t stop the burning resulting in complete loss of the car and occasionally entered buildings surrounding the BATTERY heat source.
Excuse me, but charging at home is not a half baked solution. I would strongly advise anyone that ownes an EV to make sure they buy and install a home charger for their EV needs. It is very convenient, safe, and practical. It will also save you money as you charge at home where it is cheaper than public charging stations. Being able to charge at home is one of the many great things about owning an EV. 2:24
I generally agree with your points.
One issue buyers of new, and near new, EVs may face is when they come to sell. If used car buyers are put off buying an older used EV because of the reasons you outline - high cost of battery replacement and the vehicle going out of warranty - the new EV buyer will have no one to sell their used EV to.
I have four petrol cars and and I have always been a buyer of used cars aged 10 years or older. This approach has saved me many thousands of dollars throughout my life. When an EV is 10 years old no one in their right mind would buy it. I for one certainly wouldn't. The value of an old EV will be far less than its battery replacement will cost. So EVs will have a much shorter lifespan than traditional petrol cars, which will pose big environmental problems in the coming years. And auto wreckers/dismantlers will become very hesitant to take them due to the fire hazard risk from old and crash-damaged batteries self-igniting in the yard. This has happened in Auckland, New Zealand, twice already, and its still early days.
Here in New Zealand we've had major weather events that have taken down pine forests and so we have loads of 'slash' damaging the environment. This slash could be used to make low emission petrol. P1 Fuel is a German company who already make very low emission petrol out of wood chips and other organic material. P1 Fuel's petrol was used in Toyota-powered race cars in the New Zealand Grand Prix series, 2024. P1's fuel may well mean that petrol power remains with us for a very long time yet, if not forever.
Glad to inform you I don't have this issue since I put in more mileage per year on my bikes than car which sits in the driveway and no, I don't own e-bikes nor will I ever recognize them as "bikes."
Better increase your home insurance if you parking in your garage.😖
Just the extra car and home insurance will wipe out any potential savings that might be expected from a EV.
No that not true 😂
150,000 miles without one single issue.
They don’t drive that far in Norway either like we do, and the EVs over in Europe are smaller typically like the smart and 500e in addition to Tesla, etc. No large electric SUVs or trucks
all your points about EV's are well taken. you couldn't pay me enough to get an EV.
you didn't include the battery thermal runaway concern
if you've never seen a EV battery fire its pretty frightening. they're extremely difficult to extinguish and they happen more often than you think.
thanks for your overview.👍
My house has been full of lithium batteries for over 20 years: many many laptops, cell phones, other portable lithium products like tools, etc. Multiples of some of these given the entire family would have these products. Too many to count, really. Exactly zero of those batteries have experienced "thermal runaway".
I had two plug in hybrids in teh garage for over 8 years, they had ~7kwh batteries in each of them and zero fires. I still have one of these hybrids parked out front right now. we have also owned five teslas at this point, also zero fires.
Of course this stuff does happen, however, one has to actually consider: why and how does a "thermal runaway" occur? Batteries do not just spontaneously combust, you have to over heat, over charge or damage the battery in a certain way. General use of an EV eliminates two of those scenarios almost entirely. In my opinion a little knowledge goes a long way toward respecting that these "risks" are not as frightening as they seem.
I will pay you $1 if you test drive a tesla. The best part of a tesla is the power. No gas-powered vehicle can do that unless it's a lambo, ferrari. etc. About 30% of cars are electric where I live and I have never witnessed an EV battery fire. I drive about 50 miles daily. What I have seen is many gas-powered fires in my life-time. Stuff happens.
As far as older electric vehicles, you do have some older 2013 model is that is still running most of them with over half 1,000,000 miles. I can’t see that for other EV companies but now you have one for that one.
It’s pretty obvious that the sensible option is lease deals rather than outright ownership. Get your maintenance covered in the deal, and dont worry about longer term resale value drop.
It is encouraging to observe individuals shedding light on the realities surrounding electric vehicles (EVs). While EVs undoubtedly represent the future of transportation, it is essential to acknowledge that they still require significant advancements. A conservative estimate suggests that 10 to 15 years of development may be necessary before EVs can fully mature. In the interim, gasoline-powered vehicles continue to undergo improvements, making them a viable option for many consumers. Personally, I find it prudent to remain with gasoline engines for the time being, given their current advantages.
What you said is happening in the progress... By now, there is no country whose EV sales are more than half of total cars sold.....
The problem is they are BEV and not EV powered directly from the grid. Nothing that has a built in battery is a long life item.
That's laughable...."gasoline-powered vehicles continue to undergo inprovements" How much did you pay for gas 20 years ago? How much do you pay now? Improvement? LOL
more than half the issue is price tag. Maybe check out BYD seagull, selling at 11000 USD with a range of ~200miles
350 km range is enough if fast charging point is available everywhere we can use flight or train if we have to go long 1000-2000 km distance to save time and energy
new battery for mine is $13,000 not $30,000
Just got a volvo xc60 recharge instead and loving it.
Norway is a cold country and is full of Teslas... Crazy expensive insurances are a big problem, in Spain for a model Y basic insurance you must pay 1000 euros, and if you want full insurance the bill is almost 7 k 😮.
I was so into ev and hybrid until my friends had to replace their batteries. It’s not just EVs that need replacement batteries but also hybrids. After spending 5k+ on their hybrid battery, I’m sticking to my gas car. I have a 2007 Scion tC and battery replacements cost me less than 100. My friends have newer hybrids and theirs cost 5k+ replacements after only a few years.
Great channel!
Nice to know that gas cars don't have costly engine and transmission failures.
MG 4 Australia insurance $AU950 annually . less than my nine-year-old, VW golf was two years ago.
They don’t have any problems in Fairbanks, Alaska or Trumaine, Norway
Number 6 should be...tyres. Heavy heavy cars, wear out tyres faster!!!
Theyre about 10-20% heavier than their gas equivalents. Thats negligible.
Thats a complete myth. Mine have lasted longer on my EV
All the first issues you’ve mentioned, ice cars have the same problems. I went through - 32 C in AB was fine as long as your plugged in like ice cars. The cars around my house had to run their cars for hours in the cold. I selected precondition it warmed up for a few minutes and I could just get in and go. My EV has a LFP battery it’s great even in the cold. Battery is under warranty just like ice cars. Ice car start on fire too. Please get your facts up to date.
And for your info my insurance went down because of all the safety features on the car. 🙂🖖🏼
The facts are up to date, your OPINION will change as your EV ages just a bit. Reality will set in.
@@davewhite113 😂 don’t think so! Sorry, I feel sorry for you fall for all the EV BS. It’s been the best car I’ve ever owned. Even in the cold. 😊
I changed to an EV (a Tesla) a year ago. It started as an experiment, and here's what I learned about EVs in the cold.
Heating the car in the cold is not an issue, as long as you have a heat pump. On a single charge, I'm able to heat the car for at least 24 hours (that is without driving of course). Now, the issue with cold temperatures is, that for driving, the battery has to be heated. When starting up the car in the morning in the cold, the heat pump runs like crazy - not because it has trouble heating the passenger space, but because it has to bring the battery up to temperature. This is very energy intensive, and I would estimate that it doubles energy consumption, effectively reducing range to about 50%.
That is, until the battery is on temperature. After that, just normal heating for the passengers is required, and range is great, just impacted by heating a tiny bit.
So, when starting up in the morning, you get the impression that range is reduced a lot, and if you drive only short distances, that's true - but then it doesn't matter. If, on the other hand, you drive a long distance, after a while the car will behave almost like in the summer. You just do get the initial impact on charge that cones from heating the battery. Which you can prevent alltogether by heating the battery before you drive (when you have a home charger, like we do). Then you can start a long distance drive with already heated up car+battery, and there is almost no range loss.
@@valuemastery I don’t have a heat pump and my Mach e was fine at -32C as long as you have it plugged in and precondition the battery. It’s way way better than any of my ice cars were in that kind of cold. All the EV comments have to be checked and checked again. All the misleading BS about Evs needs people to do some fact finding from informed reparable people.
When people point out the problem with EVs. Evanglists always say the same thing, "but ice cars have the same issues." No, they don't. To compare EVs with real cars is just excuses.
Our second to last car had got total engine failure after 60.000 miles, the last after 140.000 miles. NMC batteries are designed for 400.000 miles, LFP batteries for 1 million miles. If you buy a used electric car, you can read the SOH (State Of Health) of the battery. If the battery weaks, it still works. An ICE engine life ends from one moment to the other, without prior notice. You can buy an expensive used ICE car and one day later, you have complete motor failure and costs of 10.000$ and above. This cannot happen with an EV.
I drove my electric car now the second winter, I live in cold southern bavaria. All works fine, no restrictions at all. Of course, the range is generally lower and the range decreases in winter, but the percentage loss is not different from ICE cars.
My opinion: If you can connect in your garage, I wouldn't think for a second. EV are much more convenient.
I think it’s all down to research and knowing limits/reality. Having a charger at home and as a second car….it makes sense for some models. I know my gas vehicles in the past did not always get the range advertised, plus poor mileage in the winter, towing and driving at highway speeds. I think Kia/Hyundai had some ICE failures, and the cost to replace, also 5 figures. Our Mini SE had its first service (after 2 years) which cost us nothing and the only maintenance has been windshield fluid and wiper blades! My Ford Maverick Hybrid has had 6 recalls in 2 years, including one called “fire under hood” which is still not repaired due to part unavailable. I think this video (and your others) is good to have people think and do their homework.
Completely agree. We bought at 2016 Leaf as a second vehicle for local duty only, in the era when Ontario had massive incentives. Our other car is a Prius for longer drives or travel (and recently got a new Prius Prime 😎). I can count on one hand how many times we have publicly charged the Leaf out of necessity; almost always charge at home, still don’t feel that comfortable with availabliltiy/reliability, especially Chademo..
It’s really too bad there are no “affordable” practical EVs like this any more, everyone is moving to expensive crossovers and trucks, with less incentives available as well. The Leaf is going away. The Bolt would have been a decent replacement, but GM killed it. The MX-30 seems interesting, but back seat is ridiculous, and way too expensive compared to 2024 market.
If I were shopping for a single-vehicle EV solution, the only one I would really trust is Tesla due to their network. This may change as they open up their network, however I don’t really trust the Korean manufacturers with some of the failure stories lately… 😕
I have been driving my 2018 Nissan Leaf for almost 3 years. In that time I have saved close to $10,000.00 in fuel and maintenance costs. The only part of your video I could relate to is the charging. Until recently charging a non-Tesla could be a nightmare as many public chargers are broken. That has all changed within the last month since Tesl opened up its chargers to competing brands. Thankfully I have a charger at home so over 95% of my charging is at my house. You mentioned decreased range while towing or in certain weather conditions. That also happens with gas vehicles but is not as noticeable as the next fuel station is just around the corner and filling up is quicker than charging, or at least used to be. Fast charging is making great strides forward. My only regret is not moving to electric sooner. Over my lifetime I have driven everything out there and this is the best driving experience for me to date.
I have an excellent top-of-the-line Ioniq 5, LR, AWD that consistently gets me over 500 Kms in the summer. The issues are having to pay $3,000 every 3rd year to replace low conductivity coolant and our terrible charging infrastructure in Ontario. I'm looking at trading my EV in for a hybrid instead. If you are looking at buying an EV, my practical advise is to wait about 5 years. By that time frame, the charging infrastructure should be far better and new models will be around.
I am grateful for your (Fossil Fuel Sponsored) misinformation. Your work allowed me to pay 20 cents on the dollar for a used Tesla. It is a wonderful car. People mistake it for a new one daily. Dim witted hotheads goose their throttles alongside me at intersections wanting to race. I don’t have the heart to show them how my Tessie can tromp their precious V-8 with my 750hp.
I have an EV, the majority of concerns expressed are real yet I perceive that many are overstated. Yes, battery replacement costs are currently exorbitant but would only apply in the rare case where a collision has damaged the battery. Most EVs come with up to 10 year warranty plans. Gas is not the only source of savings, there are no oil changes needed and no transmission to fail/maintain, it's just an electric motor and a battery.
As for hybrids, yes these can help bridge range/charging anxiety issues. But you now have two propulsion systems to maintain. No skipping oil changes like electric only vehicles and would not the increased complexity lead to even more reliability concerns.
One last thing, leasing may be the best way to proceed into the battery electric arena. Battery technology continues to evolve rapidly and being able to return a care after 36-months may let you ride the technology/learning curve.
BEV warranty doesn't cover damage to the fragile battery cover.
@@robertkubrick3738True. Yet, what warranty for any sort of vehicle whatsoever covers collision damage?
@@oldebill1807Those that are traditionally easier to repair. Youll wait longer and pay more with EVs. Former collision repair here
Today, right now, I don't doubt it. Going forward, I expect there to be learning curve effects for manufacturers, owners, and service providers alike. I expect horses were easier to maintain when cars first emerged and that you had to be your own mechanic and went to the pharmacist for fuel. Nowadays, not so much.
@@oldebill1807 I've driven a lot of miles and run over a lot of crap in the road and offroad none of it was an insurance claim ever, most of it didn't require a repair. I have ridden with people in ICE cars when they ran over a curb and never wondered if we were in danger of dying a firey death.
Good cautionary video on EV buying... EVs may be the future but they are not for everyone at this time until many of the bugs are resolved.
The number one most important accessory to add to your EV is a bike rack.
Great video! A lot of great information in one short video, awesome!
The most important EV infrastructure element is a level 2 connection AT HOME. I’ve owned a Tesla for 18 months with absolutely no problem
I’ve used the Tesla charging network maybe 15 times in 12k miles. Quick easy and trouble free. Never ever use other public charging. Tesla rules in this area. That simple. You are the beta tester for every other EV at this point. This is why Tesla sells every vehicle they build
After 85k miles on my 2014 tesla S I have had only one warranty issue. One set of tires. That's it. Battery costs are going down. Newer battery chemistry will reduce costs even more. I will never go back to an ice.
Five biggest issues with EV: 'exaggerated driving range, especially in the cold', 'many chargers are broken', 'generally not as reliable as ice vehicles (GM EV chevy)', 'battery replacement is very expensive', 'poor resale value', 'far more expensive than ice vehicles'. The early adapter blues.
It's like this. If you don't pay your road the tax Government can't afford to fix the road. Same you want free fuel the company can't afford to fix charging machine.if made in china. Bad Electrical part's.
Until the infrastructure is in place to reliably charge these vehicles, I think that the general public will not move in large numbers to adopting them. I know that my cost of ownership of a 4-cylinder VW Jetta is quite low, insurance is low, and maintenance is cheap. There really is no reason for me to purchase a much more expensive EV.
Thank you. I was surprised, tho, that you neglected to mention that the cost of electricity is only going to go up, up, up. There will be no savings over time.
Far from the finished article, and you do get the impression they'll charge greatly for an EV that is 🤔 Great vid
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Made a mistake of getting a Tesla model Y I should’ve got a hybrid a Lexus rx which is way better than the electric . Cause my range is kind of decreasing 😢 little bit . I do charge at home and get the vehicle pre heat before departing not work or any other suggestions can you reply I do watch all your videos .
Thank you
These are the reasons why i recently bought a new Hybrid gasoline car instead.
I refuse to sit 30 minutes at a gas station to charge too.
Unless you have clear data showing otherwise, the main reason for depreciation issues with EVs is the price reductions and repaid advancement in technology. Price reductions is the easiest to see in action. It is a double-edged sword since initial price has been a major concern with EVs - but reducing their price causes resell/depreciation issues. Since I normally keep my vehicles for 10 years, this is less of a concern for me - I'd rather have more affordable vehicle available - this is at a time when most other vehicles are increasing in price.
Insurance is something you have to shop around. I haven't had issues finding reasonable rates.
I love the concept of EV's and I commend everyone that is building, buying, and adding infrastructure to make them work. I do have a warm place to charge a vehicle but I would need to feel extremely comfortable with a Plug-in Hybrid before making the leap. Great job Shari! You have presented a great and honest reflection of the current state of the EV market. Kudos!
5:30 All this does is just highlight why Tesla is still so far ahead. $16k AUD ($10k USD) to replace the 60kwh LFP battery on a RWD with a new (not refurbished) battery inclding labour, and it has 3 times the life expectancy of a NMC battery (800k to 1million miles).
Spot on Ari!! Only in America do manufacturers build a new technology class of vehicles, and then only AFTERWARDS try to figure out how to create an infrastructure to allow owners to charge them! Kind of like building railroad cars and forget to build the national network of railway tracks to let them ride on! For me, I don't have to worry about range anxiety, but I would have anxiety about the BIG increase in automobile insurance as a result. Enough to prevent me from getting an EV as my next vehicle for now!
Of course a century ago, the gas cars spread all around before gas stations were all around.
It's called charge at home overnight. Cheaper electicity and you have a full battery when you get in your car in the morning. Nice!
1) it's well known that EVs are best as city commute vehicles. Not as good for road trips (teslas are ok for road trips, others - no). Also, you buy an EV only if you can charge it at home overnight. With these two conditions - they are excellent vehicles, no range anxiety, and help you save on gas a lot. EVs are most efficient in cities, while ICE vehicles are most efficient on highways
2) there are two types of EVs: teslas and non-teslas. Unfortunately, no other manufacturer was able to create good competition for teslas yet. Non-teslas are produced in smaller numbers, not mature yet and have more issues. And in North America right now it's a nightmare to travel with non-Teslas until they finally switch to Tesla's charging port and are allowed on Tesla's charging infrastructure. Reliability is a moot point, because a lot of issues are software bugs that are fixed by over-the-air updates. So, rankings are not usually relevant - it's like saying that your iphone or samsung phone is not reliable because it's regularly getting updates to fix software issues. Fixable software issues should not be accounted for in reliability evaluations - only mechanical and/or the ones requiring a visit to a dealer should count
Great and informative video as always. Thank you very much.
I'm a big proponent of EVs, and Non-Fossil vehicles in general. Having stated that, I wouldn't get an EV as my only car.They need to solve the range problem, the recharge time problem, and the temperature problem before I'd consider it. Reliability will come around as the industry matures. But I'm not waiting 3 hours for a full recharge.
Just my take. Early Adopters: Thanks! You can tell who the pioneers are, they're the ones with the arrows in their backs....
Non EV people giving us EV owners their expertise about EVs. I love it
U pay 100 buck per month for my Tesla full coverage insurance
Government subsidy and lack of oversight plus contractor greed. What do you expect from public charging station?
Don't buy one unless you can charge at home ,but it's the only car you can fuel from the roof of your house. More positives than negatives.
I guess the residual heat from the house fire is a positive.
and don't leave town.
More positive? Those batteries are one step away from a fire losing EVERYTHING YOU OWN. No fire extinguishers can put out a battery and there’s been plenty of fires from them. Insurance is another battle and thats a fact. MAY FORCE BE WITH YOU
I don’t want an a electric car but think there are too many haters out there . I know electric car owners that care happy .
never again, sold it with a big loss
I learn from others mistakes. Thanks for sharing
Sure u did 😂😂
We talked to our Progressive insurance company and they claim the insurance is the same for EV verses ICE.
Actually spit my drink out laughing when he called the batteries a ticking time bomb.
I am honestly looking into the the New 2024or 2025 Honda CRV SUV Proloque machine to lease for around 4 years! Is this truly a reasonable and affordable price thing to do right now in my case ❤❤❤😂!
While I agree with the EV-specific issues you state in your review, I disagree with your blanket statement on dissing EVs for now. I own a 2020 Nissan Leaf and have had no issues with it whatsoever. It’s such a nice little hatchback where I can easily fit my bike or other cargo in. If your family can afford to have two vehicles, you should really consider having an EV as one of them. That way you could use your combustion engine vehicle for longer trips while enjoying the quiet, almost maintenance-free EV all other times.
FUD, my neighbor kept sending me FUD articles like yours after I bought a Tesla. Last month his 6 month old pickup went back to the dealer for 8 days (without a loaner car) for electrical problems & 4 recalls. My neighbor 4 doors down had her Honda burn up & another had a $7,500 bill to replace an ECU in his MB. My M3P has been perfect & costs about 1/3 to home charge vs buying gasoline.
You forgot one important factor: majority people are NOT good at all in science and stupid in common sense. How many of people good in mathematic and physics in your middle and high school class?
Thanks for making this very informative video.
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Can sell people car advice since you don't have a fraction of the problems with electric cars versus gas!
Literally none of this is true for Tesla so long as you have a garage
Still driving my 92 Chevy k2500 4x4 Pickup and my 96 GMC 4dr 4x4 Yukon.
235k+ miles on each.
Insurance $1300 year combined.
New motor $6k installed
New transmission $4k installed.
Simple math.
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Evs are and will soon be universally seen as disposable items. As such., they need to be around a tenth of the price of a 'real' or traditional car that could at least in theory still be on the road in 60 years.
There are many adverse issues regarding EVs but by far and away the greatest most intractable one is their inevitable and rapid depreciation. The only way to solve this is for them to be much cheaper than ICEV in the first place, not 30% more expensive. Especially Western car manufacturers started at the top end of the market when they should have started at the very bottom end of it.
Who in their right mind, will want to 'invest' in a Porsche EV at £125,000 that loses 65% of its value after just 2 years? This is a depreciation of around £2.00 per mile on average. On the other hand, a car costing around £8,000 new can depreciate almost as quickly without scaring off the potential punters. If the owner gets 10 years out of the glorified milk float before they dump it, they may consider this good value for their money. However, the environmental costs of producing many millions of low-priced disposable cars will be catastrophic, to say the least.
If our ruling elites seriously want to save this planet in any way whatsoever ( which they clearly don't) the use of any electrically charged fixed battery is a total NO, NO, and NO again.
Is it beyond the witts of man to come up with an engine that lasts for a lifetime and does not emit either CO2 or anything else deemed bad for the environment? Of course not, indeed I have no doubt that they already know how to do this. Do you really believe we can't simply capture the CO2 before it leaves the exhaust pipe, how difficult or expensive could this be?
EVs are not just a bad alternative they are the worst possible alternative in every possible respect.
10 years guarantee for 10 years. I will sell this car long before that
Can doors be opened in case of crash and burn ?
The hype for EV has died down but the government wants to put an end to gas cars by 2035. Not sure how that will work. Any suggestions?
People who lease a BEV are not buying them at the end of the lease, even at their bargain residual values. This should tell you that you shouldn't either.
No way right now, love my Rav4 hybrid!
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Indeed, but I found a way - I had the same vehicle and absolutely loved it for several years. It reduced my yearly gas use from 34 tanks of gas to 24. However, when I calculated that 90 percent of my usage was purely commuting, I decided to sell it and get a 2019 Ford Fusion Energi (50 kms in summer and 40 kms in winter due to tire changes). Now I use 3 tanks per year. It took 17 months to recover all costs of switching, including the installation of a 240V charger in the garage, replacing the RAV'4s windshield, the loan interest due to my purchase of the Energi before selling the RAV4, paying for certification twice and even roof racks and mud flaps etc to make the car perfect... and all of it was recovered by my gas savings. Visiting gas stations only 3 or four times a year is great!
I'm glad for you, but I don't have a garage so home charging is not an option and would not like to depend on finding reliable charging stations.@@davidmcdougall8595
I think technology is not here yet. I agree with you I live in prairies we have extreme winters and if I buy one, I have to have a two cars one piston second EV that it’s mean two insurances two parking spaces and for EV high cost of replacing battery questionable warranty I mean I drive over gravel roads little scratches and possibility of avoiding warranty
Not enough charging stations
My question where is savings?
EV's are simple - pay upfront for all the gas you might ever have used in an equivaent ICE vehicle. Also pay extra for charging if you depend on charge stations at the mall etc. At the end if you make it past the warranty the the batteries will fail and the cost to replace them will make the car almost worthless. You may alos experience some electronic board failure of some kind to find out that the componets are extremely expensive and hard to get after 4-5 years. We hafd a Kia soul - this was our experience.
Thank you for your great reviews.
Agreed.
Following a trend on any video about EVs. Those who own one usually are satisfied with the vehicle. Those who own 1278 Toyota Corolla will give you the most detailed list of problems and reasons why EVs are devil's work.
Owned one for 5 years none of this was a concern
Charging EV outside is like going to a coin laundry, you could do nothing but wait until it's done, what a waste of time.
How many mins do you think it takes to charge a Tesla using super charger?
Plug it in at home with cheap off peak rate power. You can preset the charge level and wake up charged and ready to go. I charge my Tesla for $2.00 or less used to pay $100.00 plus for my gas car tank fill.
@@brianhay5550 agree
@@brianhay5550You guys can take that fire risk. We like to keep what we own. Hope you know no fire extinguisher puts out those batteries.
dealerships wont trade them as a 2nd hand vehicle...they r a throw away item..like mobile phones😂😂