Yes, thankfulness is spiritual warfare, the war in spirit is relentless, every minute of every day and night. Constant repentance, constant self-reflection. Praise Jesus, as he saved me
They complained about missing Egypt because their parents and grandparents kept telling them stories about how much better it was in Egypt. We set the standards and examples for our children.
Oh boy, I"ve been going through a stage of grumbling. I've listened to those self-discipline videos for success, that say to focus on your goal, to push you to work harder. However, doing so has just made me dissatisfied with where I am now (living at my parent's place, though I'm 50). Wow, this is a good wake up call. "There's a real danger in thanklessness." Maybe I should start the day writing 10 things I'm thankful to the Lord for!!!
Every morning while My grand babies are getting ready for school, I would say name 3 things You are grateful for in 5 seconds, it had to be something different every day. They looked forward to it. There's so much to be thankful for 💜🙏🙌
According to Numbers 14:29, it was only those age 20 and above who were condemned to die in the wilderness, so there would have been a good number of children and teenagers who were able to remember the events that had happened 40 years before.
The distinction between "should not perish" and "would not perish" in John 3:16 came to mind regarding your question, a subtle yet profound distinction exists. Where "would" is used to talk about a possible or imagined situation, and is often used when that possibility is not going to happen. "Should" is used to say that something is the proper or best thing to do, or to say that someone ought to do something or must do something. Indeed, we SHOULD raise our eyes and look to the cross every time we WOULD complain about God abandoning us in our times of trial.
It comes very naturally to us as sinners. No one needs to learn how to complain, Pastor. And remember that some of them would’ve been old enough to have heard their parents complain as well.
What transaction occurs at our baptism? Paul says we are "Baptized into His death" with the result that we will "walk in newness of life" because of His resurrection. In our baptism, then, we are placed IN Christ in His death on the cross and IN Christ in His resurrection. The transaction that occurs is that God takes us OUT of the old Adam and place us in the new Adam. From now on we are hidden in Him! Hallelujah! In Him we have crossed the Jordan from the wilderness of self to the promised land of God's provision for us. We have left our own labors and entered into His rest. In Him we die to grumbling.
The precious presence. :) I am with you. It is all a gift. Be thankful. Your whole life, a gift. Eternal Life, a Gift. God a gift. Nature a gift. Created. In creation. Jesus The stories we tell ourselves over and over, and hearing the word over and over within the seasons of the church. Add to that our seasons of man and how the word speaks to each of us uniquely to our own person. Faith. To each as God wants us to hear. Lately, the burning ears of what we want to hear comes as a warning. Yet, what do I want to hear. The healing bond of the love of Christ? Yes. That's what I want to hear. Yet I must hear of my sin, Yes I must. Complaining? We have evidence everywhere. To be new children in what He is telling us, not what our human parents or our ancestry tells us. Yet our heritage is the church and the faith of our fathers is what we pray in. Amazing. I am with you. No one but Jesus to trust. Look at the seasons of this man and the stories of the press and all the ideologies through this 67-year-old story. The Bible and the word of God has only been the truth that is not to change. The forces attempting to change it, and the wrestling we do in attempting to hold onto the uncorrupted word. Beyond our knowing to trusting in the word as it is spoken to our hearts and minds today. Look at the snake and live. Look at the word and live. Look at Jesus and put on the armor of God. Salvation, Righteousness, Faith, Spirit, Truth, Word. All in physical manifestations of putting on those things in the Roman Armor. That we have no armor on our backs.. We are to turn with God upon all our grumblings (as the children of Israel) and be moved. This being Still and knowing god is God and surrendering our manliness. Our selfishness. Yet God is with us and knows us and all our works are predetermined. To be human has wrestling. It is like the calm that comes over us in great fear. As in my experiences of while racing yachts in great storms. I was in a crew and inexperienced, and the calm came over me. I was the Captain and sailing alone and the wind and the waves and my fears seemed to be overwhelming me. And the voice came to me as I crouched down at the helm steering with a rope to not touch the metal wheel and to present a less object to be struck by lightning all around the boat or the wind at 100 miles an hour and being driven to the too close lee shore. The voice saying. I have given you the best teachers. You know what to do and do it. If the storm is scaring you, no longer look at it. Do not see it. It was, and it went and all the strength I needed was given, and it was actually beyond understanding to have been able to adapt and do that which I knew what to do. Super human strength and It was and I am. Here today. Much older, reflecting on the love of God in answering those prayers and the prayers of this day. To not look. But to do and follow. Yes, as we age and our thoughts have us wrestling. It is. The word is. Armor up. Another glorious day which the Lord hath made, let us rejoice and be glad in it. Thankful in all things. Forgiving, forgetting the things of the past yet remembering and giving thanks. To each their own adventure and work in this life. To each their own vocation and purpose. Love the Lord your God with your whole heart and mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself. Love of self. We have spoken on this in many times over the years. Self-love as in like the 40 years and the memories of our parents inflicted upon us as in the less than things, the sinful nature of our being and theirs in us. The displacement of all that to each day and to all days in generations of the word, displacing those thoughts and the insertion of the word of God to our person and all of humanity to theirs. Then we all believing and acting in such a manner. Yet not all will and to grieve no this tribulation, accepting endurance tribulation and the hope of Jesus Christ in us through the word. Applied Agape David Millette and I came up with this at Concordia Lutheran Seminary so many years ago. Applied love. Applied understanding and struggles to understand and the healing balm of the word to our souls in our person through Christ always. To turn. To be turned by the word. From ourselves to Christ and His Word. Now, to remember the drills and teamwork of gibing the spinnaker. Who where and the process. Knowing how helps. :) Captain Tom digressing to younger days. :) Thanks be to God for Good teachers and trained Theologians. Support your Seminary.
Obedience is not taking the easy out, The Serpent wants mankind to take the easy way out. Suffering brings Endurance Character and Hope. Christ is the Antivenom to the Serpent.
God does very intricate things but makes them simple for us, like just look up and be thankful for those simple things that save us from ourselves. Watching grandchildren, it is very obvious that thanklessness and grumbling are simple also and easily copied. Our prayers are with you, your family, and both churches. Love to watch you think and listen to your Christian mind at work!
Maybe this is why it says God visits the sins of the children to the 3rd and 4th generation and it is because we can pass on our bad attitude and unrepentant heart and thanklessness to our children and they pass it on too. We need to ask God to forgive us daily and the Holy Spirit to turn our hearts toward Him each day and pass that on to our next generations.
Numbers 14:22 & 29 show that the people who died were men above the age of 20, the men who believed the bad report. So there were 19 year old men who remembered Egypt who were now approaching 60 years of age.
It's to highlight the ingratitude of the jews. Imagine God doing miracles for you every day. Sending you mana from heaven and flocks of little birds to eat every day and you still have the nerve to complain because you don't have delicacies. You've got a serpent on a pole to remind you of God's power as well. Visible miracles every day and you know where they come from and that still isn't enough. I tear up when I think of all the little things God has done in my life when I really needed him. Stuff those full of concupiscence would just dismiss as pure coincidence. I can't imagine grumbling that he didn't just make fat stacks of cash appear or make it rain jolly ranchers.
OH that's good - thankfulness is spiritual warfare. Lack of thankfulness is idolatry. Neither acknowledge God or give thanks for who they are and what He has given. Complaining about things we don't even know about - so God says, I'll give you something to complain about! But I what I didn't remember was that they turned that into an idol too and had to be destroyed. The means points to the promise - and that is how baptism saves. As a fellow former evangelical, I was just talking about how hard it is to explain baptism saves when we and they have faith alone as a pillar of belief. Just look at the serpent and be saved.
So I read that passage in numbers. That is not the passage where people talk about cucumbers. In this passage they only ask why Moses brought them out of Egypt to die in the wilderness. Then they complain about the worthless food Moses is making them eat. It can make sense then. Like I could ask, why did our ancestors lead us out of Europe and steal America for us? Now we have worthless food we brought with us, like wheat, and don't have bison meat or chestnuts... I've never been to Europe for beer and sausage. I've never tasted bison meat or chestnut bread but I can imagine it tastes better than this worthless bread which is full of gluten that irritates my bowels.
This is important difference to the misplaced emphasis of "Egypt was better" - that these people were focused of the "worthless bread." However, it is the vertical and not the horizontal in view - Moses did not give them this "bread" - it was the gracious act of God and that was being called "worthless." The manna was a picture of the "Word of God." It was the means of grace that sustained the people in the wilderness. Christ brings this into focus with His 40 days in the wilderness - "Man shall not live on bread alone but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." Sadly we in the Church likewise grumble about feeding on God's Word daily and in the flesh look to the "onions and leeks" of the fallen world as desirable. The Old Testament is rich in the sacramental - the use of God of means to deal with His people. The bronze serpent lifted up required the people to look at an "abomination" - something that could be interpreted as an idol. Christ lifted up for the sins of the world was an "abomination" as well - all that sin placed upon the only sinless One. But will you look to the cross of Christ for eternal life - the only solution to your original sin, that you and I are born sinners and are cursed to die by God because sin is in each us. But behold sinner - look to Christ hanging on the cross - trust His sacrificial and atoning work - and you will have eternal life. Refuse Christ on the cross for your sins (the serpent's poison in each of us) and die in the wilderness of this world. Also in regards to the grumbling being inherited from the parents, it teaches use why God calls us to "Honor your father and mother." God has placed parents in the first position of authority - standing in and for Himself. Thus parents are to model these two things to their children based on the Romans 1 passage Pastor quoted - we believe we are accountable to our Creator (parental authority points to ultimate authority) and we are to be thankful to Him. When parents teach neither, we have the decaying mess of our society. Do you believe you are accountable to your Creator? Are you thankful to your Creator (i.e. view Him as good)?
Yes, thankfulness is spiritual warfare, the war in spirit is relentless, every minute of every day and night. Constant repentance, constant self-reflection. Praise Jesus, as he saved me
Wow. Grumbling passed on to the next generation. Thanks for sharing.
They complained about missing Egypt because their parents and grandparents kept telling them stories about how much better it was in Egypt. We set the standards and examples for our children.
Oh boy, I"ve been going through a stage of grumbling. I've listened to those self-discipline videos for success, that say to focus on your goal, to push you to work harder. However, doing so has just made me dissatisfied with where I am now (living at my parent's place, though I'm 50). Wow, this is a good wake up call.
"There's a real danger in thanklessness." Maybe I should start the day writing 10 things I'm thankful to the Lord for!!!
Every morning while My grand babies are getting ready for school, I would say name 3 things You are grateful for in 5 seconds, it had to be something different every day. They looked forward to it. There's so much to be thankful for 💜🙏🙌
I'm also 52 and back at My parents. .....still grateful🙌
@@RobinDavid-f7o Thank you so much for sharing that with me! xo
Amen. May the Lord help my unthankfulness.
I feel that the opposite of complaining would be contentment. Being content with the blessings that God has given you
According to Numbers 14:29, it was only those age 20 and above who were condemned to die in the wilderness, so there would have been a good number of children and teenagers who were able to remember the events that had happened 40 years before.
This was eye opening. I never considered that the grumbling generation had never even been to Egypt l. That's pretty cool 😎
"Thankfulness is spiritual warfare"...what a quote! I'm gonna keep that one in the back of my mind for a while and pop it out when God tells me to!
The distinction between "should not perish" and "would not perish" in John 3:16 came to mind regarding your question, a subtle yet profound distinction exists. Where "would" is used to talk about a possible or imagined situation, and is often used when that possibility is not going to happen. "Should" is used to say that something is the proper or best thing to do, or to say that someone ought to do something or must do something. Indeed, we SHOULD raise our eyes and look to the cross every time we WOULD complain about God abandoning us in our times of trial.
It comes very naturally to us as sinners. No one needs to learn how to complain, Pastor. And remember that some of them would’ve been old enough to have heard their parents complain as well.
Very well said Bryan - true sobering and encouraging words! With thanks, Rod - South Australia.
What transaction occurs at our baptism? Paul says we are "Baptized into His death" with the result that we will "walk in newness of life" because of His resurrection. In our baptism, then, we are placed IN Christ in His death on the cross and IN Christ in His resurrection. The transaction that occurs is that God takes us OUT of the old Adam and place us in the new Adam. From now on we are hidden in Him! Hallelujah! In Him we have crossed the Jordan from the wilderness of self to the promised land of God's provision for us. We have left our own labors and entered into His rest. In Him we die to grumbling.
The precious presence. :) I am with you. It is all a gift. Be thankful. Your whole life, a gift. Eternal Life, a Gift. God a gift. Nature a gift. Created. In creation. Jesus
The stories we tell ourselves over and over, and hearing the word over and over within the seasons of the church. Add to that our seasons of man and how the word speaks to each of us uniquely to our own person. Faith. To each as God wants us to hear. Lately, the burning ears of what we want to hear comes as a warning. Yet, what do I want to hear. The healing bond of the love of Christ? Yes. That's what I want to hear. Yet I must hear of my sin, Yes I must. Complaining? We have evidence everywhere. To be new children in what He is telling us, not what our human parents or our ancestry tells us. Yet our heritage is the church and the faith of our fathers is what we pray in. Amazing. I am with you. No one but Jesus to trust. Look at the seasons of this man and the stories of the press and all the ideologies through this 67-year-old story. The Bible and the word of God has only been the truth that is not to change. The forces attempting to change it, and the wrestling we do in attempting to hold onto the uncorrupted word. Beyond our knowing to trusting in the word as it is spoken to our hearts and minds today. Look at the snake and live. Look at the word and live. Look at Jesus and put on the armor of God. Salvation, Righteousness, Faith, Spirit, Truth, Word. All in physical manifestations of putting on those things in the Roman Armor. That we have no armor on our backs.. We are to turn with God upon all our grumblings (as the children of Israel) and be moved. This being Still and knowing god is God and surrendering our manliness. Our selfishness. Yet God is with us and knows us and all our works are predetermined. To be human has wrestling. It is like the calm that comes over us in great fear. As in my experiences of while racing yachts in great storms. I was in a crew and inexperienced, and the calm came over me. I was the Captain and sailing alone and the wind and the waves and my fears seemed to be overwhelming me. And the voice came to me as I crouched down at the helm steering with a rope to not touch the metal wheel and to present a less object to be struck by lightning all around the boat or the wind at 100 miles an hour and being driven to the too close lee shore. The voice saying. I have given you the best teachers. You know what to do and do it. If the storm is scaring you, no longer look at it. Do not see it. It was, and it went and all the strength I needed was given, and it was actually beyond understanding to have been able to adapt and do that which I knew what to do. Super human strength and It was and I am. Here today. Much older, reflecting on the love of God in answering those prayers and the prayers of this day. To not look. But to do and follow. Yes, as we age and our thoughts have us wrestling. It is. The word is. Armor up. Another glorious day which the Lord hath made, let us rejoice and be glad in it. Thankful in all things. Forgiving, forgetting the things of the past yet remembering and giving thanks. To each their own adventure and work in this life. To each their own vocation and purpose. Love the Lord your God with your whole heart and mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself. Love of self. We have spoken on this in many times over the years. Self-love as in like the 40 years and the memories of our parents inflicted upon us as in the less than things, the sinful nature of our being and theirs in us. The displacement of all that to each day and to all days in generations of the word, displacing those thoughts and the insertion of the word of God to our person and all of humanity to theirs. Then we all believing and acting in such a manner. Yet not all will and to grieve no this tribulation, accepting endurance tribulation and the hope of Jesus Christ in us through the word. Applied Agape David Millette and I came up with this at Concordia Lutheran Seminary so many years ago. Applied love. Applied understanding and struggles to understand and the healing balm of the word to our souls in our person through Christ always. To turn. To be turned by the word. From ourselves to Christ and His Word. Now, to remember the drills and teamwork of gibing the spinnaker. Who where and the process. Knowing how helps. :) Captain Tom digressing to younger days. :) Thanks be to God for Good teachers and trained Theologians. Support your Seminary.
As the man in black says, 🎶He turned the water into wine 🎶
Obedience is not taking the easy out, The Serpent wants mankind to take the easy way out. Suffering brings Endurance Character and Hope. Christ is the Antivenom to the Serpent.
Please we need more Lutherans in Minnesota and the Dakotas please! Lutherans should travel more!
Evangelize the Somalis, who were sponsored by Lutheran Charities in the 1990s. Seriously,.
@@exvan3571 Yeah Lutherans in Minnesota should do that!
God does very intricate things but makes them simple for us, like just look up and be thankful for those simple things that save us from ourselves. Watching grandchildren, it is very obvious that thanklessness and grumbling are simple also and easily copied. Our prayers are with you, your family, and both churches. Love to watch you think and listen to your Christian mind at work!
Amen
Good video
Grumblers beget grumblers and those who model Thanksgiving beget thanksgivingers 😁🙏🏻
Maybe this is why it says God visits the sins of the children to the 3rd and 4th generation and it is because we can pass on our bad attitude and unrepentant heart and thanklessness to our children and they pass it on too. We need to ask God to forgive us daily and the Holy Spirit to turn our hearts toward Him each day and pass that on to our next generations.
Complaining vs being grateful.
Numbers 14:22 & 29 show that the people who died were men above the age of 20, the men who believed the bad report. So there were 19 year old men who remembered Egypt who were now approaching 60 years of age.
They were the MEGA Party, Make Egypt Great Again.
It's to highlight the ingratitude of the jews. Imagine God doing miracles for you every day. Sending you mana from heaven and flocks of little birds to eat every day and you still have the nerve to complain because you don't have delicacies. You've got a serpent on a pole to remind you of God's power as well. Visible miracles every day and you know where they come from and that still isn't enough. I tear up when I think of all the little things God has done in my life when I really needed him. Stuff those full of concupiscence would just dismiss as pure coincidence. I can't imagine grumbling that he didn't just make fat stacks of cash appear or make it rain jolly ranchers.
I don't understand. If some of the people complaining were, for example, 70 years old, they would've lived in Egypt up to 30 years of age...
OH that's good - thankfulness is spiritual warfare. Lack of thankfulness is idolatry. Neither acknowledge God or give thanks for who they are and what He has given. Complaining about things we don't even know about - so God says, I'll give you something to complain about! But I what I didn't remember was that they turned that into an idol too and had to be destroyed.
The means points to the promise - and that is how baptism saves. As a fellow former evangelical, I was just talking about how hard it is to explain baptism saves when we and they have faith alone as a pillar of belief. Just look at the serpent and be saved.
Oooh, it was better in 1986.
Real ... pre invasion but the 1960 evil was still baked in
So I read that passage in numbers. That is not the passage where people talk about cucumbers. In this passage they only ask why Moses brought them out of Egypt to die in the wilderness. Then they complain about the worthless food Moses is making them eat.
It can make sense then. Like I could ask, why did our ancestors lead us out of Europe and steal America for us? Now we have worthless food we brought with us, like wheat, and don't have bison meat or chestnuts... I've never been to Europe for beer and sausage. I've never tasted bison meat or chestnut bread but I can imagine it tastes better than this worthless bread which is full of gluten that irritates my bowels.
This is important difference to the misplaced emphasis of "Egypt was better" - that these people were focused of the "worthless bread." However, it is the vertical and not the horizontal in view - Moses did not give them this "bread" - it was the gracious act of God and that was being called "worthless." The manna was a picture of the "Word of God." It was the means of grace that sustained the people in the wilderness. Christ brings this into focus with His 40 days in the wilderness - "Man shall not live on bread alone but from every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." Sadly we in the Church likewise grumble about feeding on God's Word daily and in the flesh look to the "onions and leeks" of the fallen world as desirable. The Old Testament is rich in the sacramental - the use of God of means to deal with His people. The bronze serpent lifted up required the people to look at an "abomination" - something that could be interpreted as an idol. Christ lifted up for the sins of the world was an "abomination" as well - all that sin placed upon the only sinless One. But will you look to the cross of Christ for eternal life - the only solution to your original sin, that you and I are born sinners and are cursed to die by God because sin is in each us. But behold sinner - look to Christ hanging on the cross - trust His sacrificial and atoning work - and you will have eternal life. Refuse Christ on the cross for your sins (the serpent's poison in each of us) and die in the wilderness of this world.
Also in regards to the grumbling being inherited from the parents, it teaches use why God calls us to "Honor your father and mother." God has placed parents in the first position of authority - standing in and for Himself. Thus parents are to model these two things to their children based on the Romans 1 passage Pastor quoted - we believe we are accountable to our Creator (parental authority points to ultimate authority) and we are to be thankful to Him. When parents teach neither, we have the decaying mess of our society. Do you believe you are accountable to your Creator? Are you thankful to your Creator (i.e. view Him as good)?
Ted's Montana Grill. Bison burgers are great.
I wish boomers would have grumbled about how bad things were getting during their generation so that something would have been done.
And if you’re older than 41… just forget about it. You’re washed up.
I was going to ask what about singles in their 50s ...
@@suewalton5322 Get a dog
Moses was 40 when he fled Egypt, after that he married. Then 80 when he went back to Egypt. 😊
@@Perktube1 We aren’t Moses.