Scott Rayow knows how to play a great Shredder. Utrom Shredder was more serious and vicious, while Demon Shredder likes to play with his victims, emits he’s evil and enjoys it, and loves to laugh at the death and destruction he’s making.
@zachpottinger1842 his utrom shredder sounded more robotic and business-like while his tengu voice was more expressive and snakey, almost like steve blum's orochimaru
Ch’rell was the Shredder in terms of relationship with the Turtles, actions, and what they pulled from the source material(basically putting Krang and Shredder together without the Krang elements being so obvious) But I’ll give Tengu credit for being the THE SHREDDER, instilling fear and creating myths Ch’rell was intrigued enough to take as his own identity when the time came.
Ch’rell not only took Saki's identity as his own, he actually surpassed him as the conqueror of worlds and the one who nearly destroyed entire Multiverse out of spite.
The true life of Oroku Saki from the long, long past of the 4th Century in Ancient Japan that Splinter told his sons about the legend of the Five Dragons.
@@Diainvcgtslover hmm no. Krang not even the same level utrom shredder btch slap that one easily and what you mean clone shredder there is a clone 3 shredder in tmnt 2003 like the comics
I also wish he would work as an Union VA instead of working for studios that MOSTLY dub anime. Tengu Shredder or Utrom Shredder SHOULD have been the final villan of the 2012 cartoon. NOT 1987 Shredder & Krang, they SHOULD have been the second final villains.
I love that Rise has rescued the idea of the Shredder with "mystical origin". I wonder who would win in a fight between this Shredder in his dragon form and Rise's "Anti Spiral" Shredder, both being the most powerful versions of the character.
I have to say Tengu Shredder we just didn't get enough of Rise Shredder to see all his powers but I will say his giant form can compete with the Tengu Shredder's dragon form
@@quranbooker6655 Well still think Tengu dragon form would win against Rise Shredders giant form but lets not forget Tengu shredder has the be able to pierce the dark armor or he will probably never die which I'm pretty sure Tengu Shredder can possible do
@@rickyronny4019 Wish we saw more of the Tengu Shredder. There was actually going to be another season involving time travel where all 3 shredders were battling each other, just like was shown in the beginning of season 7, but that was also cancelled.
Now I’m starting to think his energy was supposed to stay red and black but 4kids saw his death and was like, “can you make it green? That’s gonna look like blood there.” Doesn’t detract from the moment but that was my thought watching this though getting to there.
It's also interesting to know that in that part when we see him getting revived we can actually see a bit of gore in a TV-Y7 kids show aired on 4kids of all places.
When the Tengu Shredder had been resurrected by the Foot Mystics, I would've preferred having him still wear the same armor that the animators had him wear of the flashback story of the episode "Legend of the 5 Dragons" instead of having him wear different armor.
I think his armour became somewhat rusty over the years. Also notice how he looks more undead than human. His death meant that Oroku Saki was completely gone and the Shredder has completely merged with soul. Maybe his cape was also created by the mystics or somewhat fashioned by his dark magic
18:16 honestly, this scene would have been better for me if it was the Utrom Shredder facing off the demon shredder. I just wasn't able to take Karai seriously as the Shredder, she didn't have that same coolness and badass appearance in character and action as the other shredders.
@@rickyronny4019 Karai was good as Shredder. She actually found the liar and almost killed the turtles. She should have stayed as main antagonist for s5 or at least secondary Antagonist
@@zemox2534 She wasnt bad but it just wasnt the same, her personality is nothing like the Utrom Shredder. I wish Ch'rell could have fought the Demon Shredder with the sword of Tengu, but the sword nor he was around anymore lol.
@@ayo3291 I always wonder why the sword of Tengu was called like that. was it originally belonged to the Demon Shredder and Ch'rell rebuilt it with Utroms's metal?
This will always be *the* shredder to me. Utrom shredder is definitely iconic and will never be forgotten or underestimated, but THIS is how I was introduced to the shredder. And it’s epic and awesome! 🤩😁
Oroku Saki was chosen by Tengu Shredder to become his successor and plunge the world in darkness. But instead more worthy of the title was not him, but an Utrom alien conqueror, who by the end of the show became the very embodiment of evil and hatred (especially for... Turtles!) and who nearly destroyed entire Multiverse out of spite! Tengu Shredder/real Oroku Saki, can you surpass that!?
@@aSpectreAppears _Seriously?_ She was the weakest. If anything, she was the only "Shredder" that never really lived up to the name. She never really had _The_ Shredder aura... It's not really as simple as simply putting on a Shredder-esque armor...
Am I the only one who thinks Ch'rell and Demon Shredder would be (kind of) best pals if they met? Demon Shredder had no respect for Karai, but I think he'd have respect for a guy who has plans to conquer the entire universe. He may even see Ch'rell as a worthy successor and let Ch'rell absorb him like Oroku Saki did.
I think Ch'rell is already the fusion of an Utrom and the demon shredder. after Oroku Saki finish the demon off some of his energy must fade off to another galaxy and he convinced Ch'rell to let him inside his soul like he did with Oroku Saki. This changed Ch'rell intro a red Utrom with the symbol of the tengu shredder on his head and turn him evil. I Believe that's how Ch'rell had a knowlegh of shredder voice because there is really no other way he could know. so when Ch'rell said that he is the Shredder he is actually telling the truth. He just faked the Oroku Saki persona from an obvious reason. the little energy the tengu fused within Ch'rell was not enough to give him super powers, just knowlegh and evilness. I believe that if the Utrom Shredder and the Original Shredder will ever to fuse the Tengu monster shredder that once terrorized Japan would live once more.
This Series of TMNT showed The Shredder in so many different forms, from Human, Demon, Utrom, Cyber, even a Virus. None of the other TMNTs could Honor the Shredder like this Series has done.
And karai shredder and the clone mutant shredders. Love it sadly wish Karai shredder looks stay with when she was laughing destroyed sewers or that one in one fight with leo when she was shredder because a lot of shots it just looks like she is wearing a junky version of the regular shredder
The demon Shredder is more terrifying than Ch’rell due to how sadistic he is in my opinion. Ch’rell was so inspired by the original Oroku Saki that he literally created a sword to match his powers. Guess he was inspired by the Demon Shredder because he matched his evilness and lust for destruction. I really wonder how he returned by the time of the Shredder war. It’s important to note that the Shredder fought evenly with his counterparts one on one without levitating over them, just used his superhuman reflexes and his demonic powers to an extent but fought them much more seriously than he did with Karai and the Turtles with their alliance, showing that perhaps death has changed him. His powers also seemed to have greatly diminished with him not summoning his undead ninjas, and using just red magic which was incredibly powerful originally but he preferred to use it the green magic when he was resurrected by the Mystics, but he was still powerful all the same after he was vanquished by Yoshi.
@@TheMegatron673 Still, Saki seemed more ruthless and sadistic. He legitimately seemed to enjoy the suffering of others, and knew his conquest would turn the world into a “dark, chaos” which is what he strives for. Darkness and chaos were fuelling the Tengu Shredder.
@@justsomeguy747 Watch the episode "Same as it never was" in season 3. Ch'rell was way more evil and deadly. but I'm glade they made the Tengu Shredder. this make the stroy more interesting and rich as well as Ch'rell more bad ass for taking on his identity
@@UUSER142 I’ve watched it several times, it’s great. Indeed, Ch’rell is what the Tengu Shredder would have been if he became more accustomed to the times rather than being used to an ancient world.
I think they both ruthless, cruel and evil. But, if we speak about a heinousness, then Ch’rell (Utrom Shredder) wins since we saw and heard that he destroyed a billion of worlds in space and instigated a lot of the wars for his own twisted benefits and ideals. True, Oroku Saki (Tengu Shredder) is the original evil and also heinous, but his heinous standards are pales in comparison to the heinousness of Ch’rell (well, if we saw more about Tengu Shredder, then maybe he will be equal (if not more) heinous than Utrom Shredder).
I loved demon shredder he was a true shredder and a demon but all the same I wished they continued like he was trapped in a another dimension but got out to get revenge
20:29 Shouldn't Karai not be affected by that face reveal, considering that she knows fully well that the Shredder she regarded as her father is an Utrom?
@@UUSER142 She actually knows that her "father" is some kinda four-legged slug from outer space, since Karai was the only member of the Foot Clan who saw the Shredder as Ch'rell
@@flashn00b I know that. I meant she saw him most of the time as an exo-suit so the Tengu Shredder's face effect her. I think the Tengu Shredder did that in purpose. The five Mystic ninjas probably told him about Karai-Ch'rell relationship
Tengu Shredder was THE TRUE SHREDDER, not Utrom Shredder. Ch'rell was bad ass, make no mistake, but he wasn't the original. TMNT had to side with every other villain (except Utrom Shredder) to beat this guy.
One thing that’s never been explained and probably never will is how did Ch’Rell not only learn about the Original Tengu Shredder but his actual name and Identity??
@Miles Goodison-Fearon so did he used the same Exo-suit over 1,000 of years until the Tmnt destroy his Armor in the episode secret origins part 3? if not who gave him a new exo suit as non of his men knew he was an Utrom beside Karai who he adopted very "shortly" before the events of the current days. maybe he killed the ninjas that replace his exo-suit too?
@@jonathanthomas4182 forget the name and identity, that could be heared from legends. how did he knew his exact voice pitch?!!! there were no tape recording back there. my theory is that after Oruku Saki killed the Tengu Shredder some of the Tengu energy fade and reformed in another Galaxy and the Tengu convince Ch'rell to fuse with him, turning him red and evil, with the symbol of the shredder on his head. there was not enough energy to left in the Tengu to give Ch'rell super powers, but he did gave him knowlegh of his other half (including Oruku Saki) so Ch'rell knew how he sounds in both the Shredder and Oruku Saki.
I highly doubt they came up with the idea of the "true shredder" while making first seasons, it looks more like spontaneous idea even tho there was some kind of background leading to this story. But it fitted quite well, unfortunately fantasy-turn didn't make good ratings... People got used to the original story
The Tengu shredder was good, but I have a few notes about how he could have looked cooler. 1. Stay with the armor he had in Legend of the Five dragons 2. Not have him rely so much on magic but instead incorporate his magic with his fighting skills as hes supposed to be a skilled warrior too. 3. Have him face off against the Utrom Shredder instead of Karai for a more epic showdown since they were both formidable foes.
I think utrom shredder would worship him in order for him to grant him power like the final episode of ben 10 auf when vilgax absorbed power from dragon after inditmating him and utrom shredder would become his new host since he also goes by oruku saki, his utrom armour now would have demonic abillities.
There's really not that much difference between the regular Utrom shredder and this one. This one slightly has more of a personality. Slightly. He's a demon and just here to fck around
@@rickyronny4019 No, not really... Utrom is pretty boring and bland by comparison. Tengu is wittier and has more sense of humour. Utrom is just evil and evil, cruel, through-and-through and just wants to kill everyone and that's about it. While Tengu has certain playful and mischievous nature to him.
43:22 this felt like shredder vs krang despite being known for tengu and utrom. But here’s a reference from out of the shadows. Tengu shredder: chrell. Chrell: there you are oroku, I thought you never come near. Tengu: it is nearly finished and once the portal is unleashed we rule all reality. Chrell: I’m sorry there is no we. Tengu shredder: we were a team we had a bargain! Chrell: there will be no bargain! Teams are for the weak family is for the coward, the universe is my toy! And I will be the true shredder! Tengu shredder : you betrayed me! Chrell: you won’t leave here alive.
Would love a fanfiction where he teams up with Shao Kahn, Onaga, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, Hotoru, and Havik from Mortal Kombat to decimate Earthrealm, only to betray them later😈
I think Tengu Shredder is my favorite. Kinda reminds me of Oda Nobunaga from the Onimusha video game series. In the game, Nobunaga was known as the Demon King though he was a human once who the vessel for the original King of the Demons. I should also point out that Nobunaga was real, but he was a ruthless warlord who slaughtered many people, not just in battle, but women and children. He even burned down Buddhist monasteries. Because of this, he was known as the Demon King.
0:55 I wish The Ancient One didnt said anything during that Samurai Battle-Cry. Also: Why didnt The Ancient One answer Leos question? Its not that hard.
"You speak my name, but you don't know me! I am Ch'rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one TRUE Shredder! I am the destroyer of worlds, and I FEAR NO MORE!" - Utrom Shredder
I know tmnt 2003 was release very late because new managers in 4kods happen so but a tmnt 2003 game was made where tengu shredder shows up but it's an RPG mobile game. Not sure of Karai shredder ever made it into a game though
It would be cool if The TMNT free the Utrom Shredder in season 5 to help defeat the Tengu Shredder. after all he took his role for the longest period so he could drain his power the most. After the defeat of Tengu Shredder, The Utrom Shredder could steal his artifacts and gain more power and return to be the TMNT main enemy
@@SuperVladdrakula True. Considering that he is one of the most evil and heinous (if not the most) of all Shredders (Tengu Shredder is more powerful true, but in terms of heinousness he pales in comparison to Ch’rell).
@@slasher19necroslayer42 "Considering that he is one of the most evil and heinous (if not the most) of all Shredders (Tengu Shredder is more powerful true, but in terms of heinousness he pales in comparison to Ch’rell)." I doubt that... It's not because of "more heinous" or whatever... It's simply because he hates the Turtles too much... He literally is willing to die himself if it means he'll take them with him, he tried it, at least, two times...
tengus are real yokai in mythology their bird creatures with long noses the resemblance is uncanny. the fact they made him a tengu confuses me you can interpret creatures in different ways but why make him a tengu if he doesn't even resemble one if he was an oni it would make more sense
In TMNT 2003 the term tengu is used to all Japanese demons (they have Kappas, who are also Tengu, skeleton demon, who is Tengu too, and Nezumi (demonic rats)).
@@SuperVladdrakula well, actually in retrospect the reason why aku looks like a clown cause well I mean that’s how they showed him but In actuality he literally just like freaking souless being without any care also it’s impossible to kill him, even with the same evil
@@kingwolf2902 "the reason why aku looks like a clown cause well I mean that’s how they showed him" Aku spent his time sitting down and telling fairy-tales to children once... Can you imagine Shredder doing that? "he literally just like freaking souless being without any care" That's true... But his personality and attitude is noticeably less serious and intense... "also it’s impossible to kill him, even with the same evik" Didn't Jack supposedly _did_ "kill" him in the end? Though I admit, it's ambiguous...
Since the Shredder Tengu & Saki now shared the same body, it shows that the Shredder Tengu still lives and is bringing chaos, while Saki's body is merely its host. So, I guess you can say Saki and the Shredder Tengu are as one and died as one. And in a manner of speaking, the Shredder Tengu is in a new form (not literally, but in a way).
Ch'rell will need the sword of Tengu just to has the slightest chance of surviving for 10 seconds. it would be interesting to see the original Saki before he fused with the demon vs Ch'rell or Ch'rell in the super exo-suit from Exodus part 2 or The same as it never was .
If you're talking about that brief moment when the Turtles were returning to their present timeline, I know what you mean. @@LordBeerusGodofDestruction
25:55 - 26:05 How does he know the Romeo and Juliet reference? He was from the Year 300 AD, but I thought Shakespeare had written the play between 1591 and 1596.
This man.. definitely should have gotten more time in the show.. and some real good opponents, considering that the only reason he even finds destroying the Turtles fun the first time is because with all that power, he is.. just that bored.
Can I have all the scenes with Shredder from 1987? I just want to see ebb on your channel. А можно все сцены со Шреддером 1987 года? Просто хочу увидеть эбб на вашем канале.
11:34 Knock knock, who's there? 26:08 Karai! 42:57 Shredder: I will fight you to my very last breath! Hamato Yoshi: This demon is your very last breath!
I think a cool twist i would've done is have Ch'rell be the reincarnated Tengu Shredder after he was defeated by the ninja tribunal, that would've brought the whole story together. Its would also be a cool twist if Karai was related to the Tengu Shredder through her family lineage.
18:26 when you back talk your grandparents
I understand
@@DalekWave1384 Tengu Shredder Is Juha Bach from Bleach
@@rheubhenncabizares9912 k
@@Megatron-101 hi
@Megatron-101 you know Shredder don't care right
The voice actor was having the time of his life playing this shredder
Scottie Ray
Scott Rayow knows how to play a great Shredder. Utrom Shredder was more serious and vicious, while Demon Shredder likes to play with his victims, emits he’s evil and enjoys it, and loves to laugh at the death and destruction he’s making.
@zachpottinger1842 his utrom shredder sounded more robotic and business-like while his tengu voice was more expressive and snakey, almost like steve blum's orochimaru
@@jaykimmerman8608 that’s what I said.
*SCOTTIE RAY CLEARLY ENJOYED PLAYING SHREDDER*
Yes
Ch’rell was the Shredder in terms of relationship with the Turtles, actions, and what they pulled from the source material(basically putting Krang and Shredder together without the Krang elements being so obvious)
But I’ll give Tengu credit for being the THE SHREDDER, instilling fear and creating myths Ch’rell was intrigued enough to take as his own identity when the time came.
Tengu Shredder deserved to be the overarching Antagonist.
@@jturner2577 Isn’t he already an overarching antagonist of TMNT 2003.
Ch’rell not only took Saki's identity as his own, he actually surpassed him as the conqueror of worlds and the one who nearly destroyed entire Multiverse out of spite.
@@jturner2577 He was
@@maksymilianziele28 Ch’rell is merely a copy... A Shredder's avatar at _best..._
Tengu Shredder: The REAL Shredder
Utrom Shredser: The TRUE Shredder
Donatello: How many Shredders are there that we defeated him?
Me: Good questions: Well at least there would be only two.
İts actually 4 ıf you consider that demon in the flashback. I dont consider digital copy as canon.
Oroku Saki is the real shredder. The utrom just took on that identity later on.
@@Vilgax00nope he is
Technically 3 main shredders and all there forms don't count its still the 3 main shredders
Notice how Saki’s armor was the only one that wasn’t identical to the other four. Even BEFORE he was corrupted by The Shredder lol
Maybe, it was more powerful and Saki killed Shredder because of it.
@@yaroplay9208 More like Saki was more ambitious and arrogant. Even before he sold his soul he already had a darkside and the Tengu exploited it.
It was also the same color scheme as the demon before he fought it so……..fate, I guess?
Go go, Shredder Rangers!
@@sougotokiwa8439 lmao 😂
There he is: The REAL 2003 Shredder/Oroku Saki.
The true life of Oroku Saki from the long, long past of the 4th Century in Ancient Japan that Splinter told his sons about the legend of the Five Dragons.
The real 2003 Oroku Saki/Shredder
Ch’rell is basically if Krang and a clone of Shredder did a fusion dance
Yes
@@josephzielinski8817Yeah, the emojis aren’t necessary.
@@Diainvcgtslover hmm no. Krang not even the same level utrom shredder btch slap that one easily and what you mean clone shredder there is a clone 3 shredder in tmnt 2003 like the comics
Scottie Ray, you are amazing! I wish you got a special award for voicing Shredder!
Patrick Seitz voice Tengu Shredder👺
@@Shadow-lb8tf What? No.
@@Shadow-lb8tf Not true. Scottie Ray voiced all Shredders in this series.
I also wish he would work as an Union VA instead of working for studios that MOSTLY dub anime. Tengu Shredder or Utrom Shredder SHOULD have been the final villan of the 2012 cartoon. NOT 1987 Shredder & Krang, they SHOULD have been the second final villains.
Totally
I still found it shocking that the utrom shredder was a imposter who was using the name of the original demon shredder just to gain power and respect
I love that Rise has rescued the idea of the Shredder with "mystical origin". I wonder who would win in a fight between this Shredder in his dragon form and Rise's "Anti Spiral" Shredder, both being the most powerful versions of the character.
I say tengu shredder 😎
I have to say Tengu Shredder we just didn't get enough of Rise Shredder to see all his powers but I will say his giant form can compete with the Tengu Shredder's dragon form
@@iwasjustcomingoutheretopic8598 you really think so 🤔
@@quranbooker6655 Well still think Tengu dragon form would win against Rise Shredders giant form but lets not forget Tengu shredder has the be able to pierce the dark armor or he will probably never die which I'm pretty sure Tengu Shredder can possible do
@@iwasjustcomingoutheretopic8598 wow cool 😎
His resurrected form is who I consider Tengu Shredder. Cuz lets be honest, he looks WAY MORE BADASS than he used to before his imprisonment.
I swear season 5 went full anime....I love it
Yeah. The lost season was awesome
@@rickyronny4019 Wish we saw more of the Tengu Shredder. There was actually going to be another season involving time travel where all 3 shredders were battling each other, just like was shown in the beginning of season 7, but that was also cancelled.
@@ayo3291 true
without filler too
Couldn’t agree more
I want Scottie to be the voice of every villain, for there is no voice better than his!
Now I’m starting to think his energy was supposed to stay red and black but 4kids saw his death and was like, “can you make it green? That’s gonna look like blood there.”
Doesn’t detract from the moment but that was my thought watching this though getting to there.
10:32 Saki’s original body decayed but the spirit was still alive.They really just buried that man alive and let him suffer in that coffin 😂
Yup 😂
It's also interesting to know that in that part when we see him getting revived we can actually see a bit of gore in a TV-Y7 kids show aired on 4kids of all places.
@@UrBloodOnMyFace 2003 TMNT was full of gore
A “kids” show
Oh crud~
I love how gruesome his resurrection was! haha!
And true life of Oroku Saki from long, long past.
Master Yoshi’s spirit within the Turtles was just perfect. Master Splinter Taught them Well💯
"I Expected To Find Warriors Here,Not School Children. Go Home To Your Mothers Little Ninja". GODDAMN! Tengu Shredder Is A Verbal Savage.
When the Tengu Shredder had been resurrected by the Foot Mystics, I would've preferred having him still wear the same armor that the animators had him wear of the flashback story of the episode "Legend of the 5 Dragons" instead of having him wear different armor.
interestingly, his armor was different from the rest from the very beginning
@@nozarick_vladicka I know, but still, I prefer the armor that the animators had him wear of the flashback story of Legend of the 5 Dragons.
@@JoshuaModerwell agree
Me too my friends.
I think his armour became somewhat rusty over the years. Also notice how he looks more undead than human. His death meant that Oroku Saki was completely gone and the Shredder has completely merged with soul. Maybe his cape was also created by the mystics or somewhat fashioned by his dark magic
I love this Tengu Shredder for his: armor, his accent voice, powers, and his ability to take form of a dragon.
Red Armor Shredder never sit right with me
“I will fight you… to my very last breath!”
“This, demon… IS YOUR VERY LAST BREATH!”
Such an awesome pre-mortem one liner…
18:16 honestly, this scene would have been better for me if it was the Utrom Shredder facing off the demon shredder. I just wasn't able to take Karai seriously as the Shredder, she didn't have that same coolness and badass appearance in character and action as the other shredders.
Agreed. Karai does not make a good Shredder 😂
@@rickyronny4019 Karai was good as Shredder. She actually found the liar and almost killed the turtles. She should have stayed as main antagonist for s5 or at least secondary Antagonist
@@zemox2534 She wasnt bad but it just wasnt the same, her personality is nothing like the Utrom Shredder. I wish Ch'rell could have fought the Demon Shredder with the sword of Tengu, but the sword nor he was around anymore lol.
@@ayo3291 I always wonder why the sword of Tengu was called like that. was it originally belonged to the Demon Shredder and Ch'rell rebuilt it with Utroms's metal?
Same Karai as Shredder not to be mean was a joke to me. It would've been better if she went to find a different path.
This will always be *the* shredder to me. Utrom shredder is definitely iconic and will never be forgotten or underestimated, but THIS is how I was introduced to the shredder. And it’s epic and awesome! 🤩😁
Cool
18:47 Shredder plays Among Us
1:01 Saki looks sooooo out-of-place next to the other 4 guys. :P
They really should've designed another casual outfit for him.
Oroku Saki was chosen by Tengu Shredder to become his successor and plunge the world in darkness. But instead more worthy of the title was not him, but an Utrom alien conqueror, who by the end of the show became the very embodiment of evil and hatred (especially for... Turtles!) and who nearly destroyed entire Multiverse out of spite!
Tengu Shredder/real Oroku Saki, can you surpass that!?
No
No need to "surpass", there would be no Shredder in the first place without _The Shredder..._
Karai was a decent successor.
Nope
@@aSpectreAppears _Seriously?_ She was the weakest. If anything, she was the only "Shredder" that never really lived up to the name. She never really had _The_ Shredder aura... It's not really as simple as simply putting on a Shredder-esque armor...
I just realized that the Rise shredder is basically a composite of the Utrom and Tengu Shredders…
10:10 Shredder's resurrection
Tomb of Oroku Saki.
I agree
@@Megatron-101 And Tomb of Tengu Shredder.
The 2003 shredder was the best! His voice and the suit was just amazing!
Out of all the Shredders from the 2003 version of TMNT, this one EASILY has to be my favorite.
Tengu shredder gave me nightmares as a kid
I absolutely loved this arc and dragon designs are awesome
This guy is even more heartless than ch'rell
Arguably the strongest incarnation of the shredder.
Not arguably he is
Either that or Rise Shredder since they’re both demonic entities
Probably my favorite version of shredder
Tomb of the Tengu Shredder, indeed.
6:45 Tengu Shredder: 😈 Now you shall taste the terrible beauty of true power, and you shall be... DESTROYED!!!
7:28
The True Tomb of Oroku Saki.
It just accrued to me that the Rise incarnation of the Shredder is essentially a new take on this version of the Shredder.
Yeah. And he’s pretty good too
Am I the only one who thinks Ch'rell and Demon Shredder would be (kind of) best pals if they met?
Demon Shredder had no respect for Karai, but I think he'd have respect for a guy who has plans to conquer the entire universe. He may even see Ch'rell as a worthy successor and let Ch'rell absorb him like Oroku Saki did.
I think Ch'rell is already the fusion of an Utrom and the demon shredder. after Oroku Saki finish the demon off some of his energy must fade off to another galaxy and he convinced Ch'rell to let him inside his soul like he did with Oroku Saki. This changed Ch'rell intro a red Utrom with the symbol of the tengu shredder on his head and turn him evil. I Believe that's how Ch'rell had a knowlegh of shredder voice because there is really no other way he could know. so when Ch'rell said that he is the Shredder he is actually telling the truth. He just faked the Oroku Saki persona from an obvious reason. the little energy the tengu fused within Ch'rell was not enough to give him super powers, just knowlegh and evilness. I believe that if the Utrom Shredder and the Original Shredder will ever to fuse the Tengu monster shredder that once terrorized Japan would live once more.
@@UUSER142 flawless opinion and grammar dude 👌👏
They did met in session 6 last ep I think
Utrom Shredder and Tengu Shredder did meet in the final season. And they tried to kill each other
Tongu Shredder was the og and real one
The one we used to see was an imposter
The Krang Shredder was okay, but I wish this was the main shredder of the series.
I was thinking that too, demon shredder is cooler.
1987 Shredder: But I don’t want to fight Krang! I want conqueror the world!
@@peepsg yeah, james avery was the best shredder
ngl my favorite shredder always loved magic and demons more then science and tech, helps that he is also pretty badass
This Series of TMNT showed The Shredder in so many different forms, from Human, Demon, Utrom, Cyber, even a Virus.
None of the other TMNTs could Honor the Shredder like this Series has done.
And karai shredder and the clone mutant shredders. Love it sadly wish Karai shredder looks stay with when she was laughing destroyed sewers or that one in one fight with leo when she was shredder because a lot of shots it just looks like she is wearing a junky version of the regular shredder
Well he's not a demon he's a lich ( a type of an undead monster which mostly use magic)
This is why Shredder is one of my favorite villains
Always liked the original tengu form and the weapon oroku saki used. Shame we don’t see either again
You can't kill the demon, unless you have to learn to live with it. It is taiji in Chinese philosophy.
The demon Shredder is more terrifying than Ch’rell due to how sadistic he is in my opinion. Ch’rell was so inspired by the original Oroku Saki that he literally created a sword to match his powers. Guess he was inspired by the Demon Shredder because he matched his evilness and lust for destruction. I really wonder how he returned by the time of the Shredder war. It’s important to note that the Shredder fought evenly with his counterparts one on one without levitating over them, just used his superhuman reflexes and his demonic powers to an extent but fought them much more seriously than he did with Karai and the Turtles with their alliance, showing that perhaps death has changed him. His powers also seemed to have greatly diminished with him not summoning his undead ninjas, and using just red magic which was incredibly powerful originally but he preferred to use it the green magic when he was resurrected by the Mystics, but he was still powerful all the same after he was vanquished by Yoshi.
remember ch'rell tried to destroy all of existence.
@@TheMegatron673 Still, Saki seemed more ruthless and sadistic. He legitimately seemed to enjoy the suffering of others, and knew his conquest would turn the world into a “dark, chaos” which is what he strives for. Darkness and chaos were fuelling the Tengu Shredder.
@@justsomeguy747 Watch the episode "Same as it never was" in season 3. Ch'rell was way more evil and deadly. but I'm glade they made the Tengu Shredder. this make the stroy more interesting and rich as well as Ch'rell more bad ass for taking on his identity
@@UUSER142 I’ve watched it several times, it’s great. Indeed, Ch’rell is what the Tengu Shredder would have been if he became more accustomed to the times rather than being used to an ancient world.
I think they both ruthless, cruel and evil. But, if we speak about a heinousness, then Ch’rell (Utrom Shredder) wins since we saw and heard that he destroyed a billion of worlds in space and instigated a lot of the wars for his own twisted benefits and ideals. True, Oroku Saki (Tengu Shredder) is the original evil and also heinous, but his heinous standards are pales in comparison to the heinousness of Ch’rell (well, if we saw more about Tengu Shredder, then maybe he will be equal (if not more) heinous than Utrom Shredder).
Tengu Shredder has always been my favorite!
original Oroku Saki deserves his own show
And Tomb of the Shredder.
I loved demon shredder he was a true shredder and a demon but all the same I wished they continued like he was trapped in a another dimension but got out to get revenge
Karai: Go crawl back to the grave where you belong!!
Demon Shredder: *bitch wanna catch dis mystical ass-whoopin*
Foot mystics: YES SIIIIIIIR....
20:29 Shouldn't Karai not be affected by that face reveal, considering that she knows fully well that the Shredder she regarded as her father is an Utrom?
she used to see her father as an exo-suit so...no.
@@UUSER142 She actually knows that her "father" is some kinda four-legged slug from outer space, since Karai was the only member of the Foot Clan who saw the Shredder as Ch'rell
@@flashn00b I know that. I meant she saw him most of the time as an exo-suit so the Tengu Shredder's face effect her.
I think the Tengu Shredder did that in purpose. The five Mystic ninjas probably told him about Karai-Ch'rell relationship
@@UUSER142 He knew because he's a _spirit..._
I found UNBELIEVABLE how In Universe NONEONE found curious or strange that The Tengu & Saki's armor have the EXACT SAME DESIGN & Colors
And voice.
22:13 - 22:48
Am I the only one who's seeing some really creepy subtext here?
No you're not, I see it too. And it's quite creepy.
Yup. Disturbing...
Yeah I think by slave he meant concubine
@@kobebrewster2549 yes. He wants her to kneel...
@@kobebrewster2549 Yeah and I'm pretty sure the writers knew what they were doing there
I wish the animators kept the original armor its my favorite looking armor
Tengu Shredder was THE TRUE SHREDDER, not Utrom Shredder. Ch'rell was bad ass, make no mistake, but he wasn't the original.
TMNT had to side with every other villain (except Utrom Shredder) to beat this guy.
One thing that’s never been explained and probably never will is how did Ch’Rell not only learn about the Original Tengu Shredder but his actual name and Identity??
@@jonathanthomas4182 Overhearing conversations. Story telling, writings etc.
@Miles Goodison-Fearon so did he used the same Exo-suit over 1,000 of years until the Tmnt destroy his Armor in the episode secret origins part 3? if not who gave him a new exo suit as non of his men knew he was an Utrom beside Karai who he adopted very "shortly" before the events of the current days. maybe he killed the ninjas that replace his exo-suit too?
@@jonathanthomas4182 forget the name and identity, that could be heared from legends. how did he knew his exact voice pitch?!!! there were no tape recording back there. my theory is that after Oruku Saki killed the Tengu Shredder some of the Tengu energy fade and reformed in another Galaxy and the Tengu convince Ch'rell to fuse with him, turning him red and evil, with the symbol of the shredder on his head. there was not enough energy to left in the Tengu to give Ch'rell super powers, but he did gave him knowlegh of his other half (including Oruku Saki) so Ch'rell knew how he sounds in both the Shredder and Oruku Saki.
I highly doubt they came up with the idea of the "true shredder" while making first seasons, it looks more like spontaneous idea even tho there was some kind of background leading to this story. But it fitted quite well, unfortunately fantasy-turn didn't make good ratings... People got used to the original story
Demon Shredder Is Best TMNT 2003 Villain!
Don’t You Agree?
Yes.
Definitely 😁
Yes
I think ultom shredder is better
@@ahmedghazal4240 He More like Krang as The Shredder.
I really wish tengu shredder met utrom shredder
yes, but we can guess what will happened. Tengu Shredder will probably want to kill him because he stole his identity like with Karai's case
It happened in fast forward. Along with Cyber Shredder.
The Tengu shredder was good, but I have a few notes about how he could have looked cooler.
1. Stay with the armor he had in Legend of the Five dragons
2. Not have him rely so much on magic but instead incorporate his magic with his fighting skills as hes supposed to be a skilled warrior too.
3. Have him face off against the Utrom Shredder instead of Karai for a more epic showdown since they were both formidable foes.
I think utrom shredder would worship him in order for him to grant him power like the final episode of ben 10 auf when vilgax absorbed power from dragon after inditmating him and utrom shredder would become his new host since he also goes by oruku saki, his utrom armour now would have demonic abillities.
There's really not that much difference between the regular Utrom shredder and this one. This one slightly has more of a personality. Slightly. He's a demon and just here to fck around
Utrom Shredder had plenty of personality what do you mean?
@@rickyronny4019 No, not really... Utrom is pretty boring and bland by comparison. Tengu is wittier and has more sense of humour. Utrom is just evil and evil, cruel, through-and-through and just wants to kill everyone and that's about it. While Tengu has certain playful and mischievous nature to him.
@@SuperVladdrakula Eh to me it just seems like Tengu Shredder just does even more shit talking lol
43:22 this felt like shredder vs krang despite being known for tengu and utrom. But here’s a reference from out of the shadows.
Tengu shredder: chrell.
Chrell: there you are oroku, I thought you never come near.
Tengu: it is nearly finished and once the portal is unleashed we rule all reality.
Chrell: I’m sorry there is no we.
Tengu shredder: we were a team we had a bargain!
Chrell: there will be no bargain! Teams are for the weak family is for the coward, the universe is my toy! And I will be the true shredder!
Tengu shredder : you betrayed me!
Chrell: you won’t leave here alive.
My favorite version of the Shredder. He's pure evil and loves it.
I never watched but from the villains wiki i knew that the cyber shredder is the least evil one
Tengu shredder and Statue of Liberty be love
0:47 Also the ONLY one with both a first name & last name.
Four dragons are enough, one is traitor, four superior dragons of heroic and new user of honor and goodness replace that shame of darkness.
I do like the dragon form it looks badass
True
So true
Tengu Shredder my beloved ❤
Would love a fanfiction where he teams up with Shao Kahn, Onaga, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, Hotoru, and Havik from Mortal Kombat to decimate Earthrealm, only to betray them later😈
Who are these people you mentioned
@@DalekWave1384 they’re the villains from the Mortal Kombat video games.
@@eddiejmartinez8631 then why would mortal combat crossover with tmnt
@@DalekWave1384 I just thought it would be a a cool fanfic
@@eddiejmartinez8631 understood
😮Wow, tengu shredder is so scary
I love this arc!
I think Tengu Shredder is my favorite. Kinda reminds me of Oda Nobunaga from the Onimusha video game series. In the game, Nobunaga was known as the Demon King though he was a human once who the vessel for the original King of the Demons. I should also point out that Nobunaga was real, but he was a ruthless warlord who slaughtered many people, not just in battle, but women and children. He even burned down Buddhist monasteries. Because of this, he was known as the Demon King.
0:55 I wish The Ancient One didnt said anything during that Samurai Battle-Cry. Also: Why didnt The Ancient One answer Leos question? Its not that hard.
man came back as dracula
"You speak my name, but you don't know me! I am Ch'rell, Oroku Saki, Duke Acureds, the one TRUE Shredder! I am the destroyer of worlds, and I FEAR NO MORE!" - Utrom Shredder
Master Shredder! You have returned 😮
Moral of this story for the Foot Mystics: Never, ever, EVER tell The Tengu Demon Shredder how to do his job. You'll utterly regret it 😂
15:30
"Go home to your mothers"
Same energy as "Go home and be a family man."
I know tmnt 2003 was release very late because new managers in 4kods happen so but a tmnt 2003 game was made where tengu shredder shows up but it's an RPG mobile game. Not sure of Karai shredder ever made it into a game though
It would be cool if The TMNT free the Utrom Shredder in season 5 to help defeat the Tengu Shredder. after all he took his role for the longest period so he could drain his power the most. After the defeat of Tengu Shredder, The Utrom Shredder could steal his artifacts and gain more power and return to be the TMNT main enemy
I doubt Ch'rell would help them...
@@SuperVladdrakula True. Considering that he is one of the most evil and heinous (if not the most) of all Shredders (Tengu Shredder is more powerful true, but in terms of heinousness he pales in comparison to Ch’rell).
@@slasher19necroslayer42 "Considering that he is one of the most evil and heinous (if not the most) of all Shredders (Tengu Shredder is more powerful true, but in terms of heinousness he pales in comparison to Ch’rell)." I doubt that... It's not because of "more heinous" or whatever... It's simply because he hates the Turtles too much... He literally is willing to die himself if it means he'll take them with him, he tried it, at least, two times...
tengus are real yokai in mythology their bird creatures with long noses the resemblance is uncanny. the fact they made him a tengu confuses me you can interpret creatures in different ways but why make him a tengu if he doesn't even resemble one if he was an oni it would make more sense
In TMNT 2003 the term tengu is used to all Japanese demons (they have Kappas, who are also Tengu, skeleton demon, who is Tengu too, and Nezumi (demonic rats)).
@thundertits.
Right. And Tengus varies how they act depending on the people they encounter in the forest.
But I think ch'rell is more criminal and killer than Tengu Shredder
when the shredder was created in the original comics, he was called the shredder because he wore shredded blades on his arms.
No shit, Sherlock
Demon shedder reminds of aku from Samurai Jack
Shredder is much worse... Aku's a clown by comparison...
@@SuperVladdrakula well, actually in retrospect the reason why aku looks like a clown cause well I mean that’s how they showed him but In actuality he literally just like freaking souless being without any care also it’s impossible to kill him, even with the same evil
@@kingwolf2902 "the reason why aku looks like a clown cause well I mean that’s how they showed him" Aku spent his time sitting down and telling fairy-tales to children once... Can you imagine Shredder doing that? "he literally just like freaking souless being without any care" That's true... But his personality and attitude is noticeably less serious and intense... "also it’s impossible to kill him, even with the same evik" Didn't Jack supposedly _did_ "kill" him in the end? Though I admit, it's ambiguous...
Since the Shredder Tengu & Saki now shared the same body, it shows that the Shredder Tengu still lives and is bringing chaos, while Saki's body is merely its host. So, I guess you can say Saki and the Shredder Tengu are as one and died as one. And in a manner of speaking, the Shredder Tengu is in a new form (not literally, but in a way).
Wish that they'll make a of the tengu shredder and his dragon avatar with glowing red eyes.
ya know...he is something of a immortal himself
@@Hateful_Rex oh yes I know my friend.
I would've really loved to see Ch'rell against the Tengu Shredder.
Ch'rell will need the sword of Tengu just to has the slightest chance of surviving for 10 seconds. it would be interesting to see the original Saki before he fused with the demon vs Ch'rell or Ch'rell in the super exo-suit from Exodus part 2 or The same as it never was .
They fought before but Tengu Shredder had the advantage
If you're talking about that brief moment when the Turtles were returning to their present timeline, I know what you mean. @@LordBeerusGodofDestruction
25:55 - 26:05 How does he know the Romeo and Juliet reference?
He was from the Year 300 AD, but I thought Shakespeare had written the play between 1591 and 1596.
It's reference for us, viewers.
In-universe he doesn't know about Romeo and Juliet. Just a coincidence
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@slendertentacle probably during his heyday.. he might have seen something similar either before or after he became the Shredder.
This man.. definitely should have gotten more time in the show.. and some real good opponents, considering that the only reason he even finds destroying the Turtles fun the first time is because with all that power, he is.. just that bored.
So, Oroku Saki has made a deal to the devil for absolute power.
Yeah, pretty much. That's Shredder for ya 😂
So he became this undead
Wish we could get a series like this again. Instead of whatever the heck that mutant mayhem trash was supposed to be.
Mutant mayhem was awesome its just not this
What? You mean the turtles actually acting like teenagers for once? Mutant Mayhem was totally fine the way it was dude
Can I have all the scenes with Shredder from 1987? I just want to see ebb on your channel. А можно все сцены со Шреддером 1987 года? Просто хочу увидеть эбб на вашем канале.
I remember watching this on TV as a kid and thinking it was epic. Good to know I still think the same
20:41 *FOOLED YOU!*
He's so demonic.
11:34 Knock knock, who's there?
26:08 Karai!
42:57 Shredder: I will fight you to my very last breath!
Hamato Yoshi: This demon is your very last breath!
The shredders are fighting
the turtles: Who should we fight
@@striped_hyena18 "Air horns"
@@Megatron-101 The undead one is better than this sick chrell and the cyber is cool too
@@striped_hyena18Viacom and Nick own the rights to the show
@@Megatron-101 what
That's cool to see a clan of heroic Shredders. I would have loved to see a heroic version of him but oh well
Tengu Shredder is not playing around when became full-on dragon form by the moment.
The demon shredder is my favorite version of the shredder!
1 tengu shredder
2 utrom shredder
3 cyber shredder
Well it's clear he's not a demon he's a type of an undead monster mostly a lich because he rose from the dead
This tengu is cool it looks like a samurai waybig
I think a cool twist i would've done is have Ch'rell be the reincarnated Tengu Shredder after he was defeated by the ninja tribunal, that would've brought the whole story together. Its would also be a cool twist if Karai was related to the Tengu Shredder through her family lineage.
20:37
My child.
20:41
HA HA HA HA HA.
Leo, "Oroku Sai was real?"
Ancient 1, "0:55!"
True life of Oroku Saki.
20:35
Shredder being a Tengu.
29:03
The definition of modern society.
26:08 No! It can't end like this!
If i were tengu shredder, would just run away since i was weakened and lost my army and hide forever never being seen again.
This season never was shown in my country because it was "Too scary"