Is Diablo 4 The Real Deal or Is it Another Ruse? - Basil's Thoughts on Diablo IV
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Upon the announcement of Diablo 4, Basil thought he'd share some of his thoughts based on the introduction Blizzcon presentation! Come let me know what you think as well!
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They should have the option to have that “fog of war” affect from the previous games.
Moving through the world and being unable to see what’s ahead adds a layer of unease
as far as the d4 announcement goes.. i think d4 looks better and more like diablo game.. but it still looks gutted and simplified to the point its just hard to look at with interest.
Agreed. It looks better but still just so simplified.
At first glance I get that Diablo 3 feeling again, and I don't mean that in a good way. Diablo 3 never had that dark magic that 1 and 2 had, and I don't want a overly shiny, WoW-ish Diablo 4, but too early to tell I guess.
Latest footage from the rogue gameplay trailer shows us exactly what you have said, all they did was make the graphics darker and grittier, I hope we get proved wrong and they give us something more like D2.
Lilith created Sanctuary with Inarius (I'm sure you remember this) and if I recall correctly was later banished by the prime evils. During the reveal trailer as she was summoned I think I remember hearing someone say "come home" to her. Maybe she'll release Inarius from his torment and he'll become a main boss. Maybe she'll try to resurrect Mephisto, and he'll resurrect the prime evils. I wonder what would happen to Malthael after he's reborn, as angels are. Surely the angels will be a little bit annoyed with him lol. Lots of possibility.
@SuperRisingStorm lol I actually went back and read everything again after making my comment, but thanks for clarifying some things for everyone.
@SuperRisingStorm You never know though, all of the evils have always wanted to rule on their own, but that didn't stop any of them from reviving each other in D2. There could be other motives for resurrecting the other evils, like trying to gain their power.
Blizzard as we grew up with is long dead. Now fanboys design the game and corporate out of touch big wigs get the final say.
I've mostly read positive reactions to the cinematic trailer, but I have a huge problem with them showing the main antagonist right of the bat. That's not how to build suspense. The unknown is scary. The danger should be shrouded in mystery and revealed later on. D3 had everything explained and thrown in your face which was absolutely awful. Now we know the name, face and the manner of which this demon was summoned. Kinda ruins it. Cool looking cinematic for sure though.
how do you know that's the main antagonist? ;)
Yeah i have a feeling Rathma (the other looking evil guy in the crypt) will probably end up being a bigger impact on the game. Just my guess.
@@Nerobyrne Haha, well I suppose I don't. But her face is on everything D4 so far so that would be my assumption. Regardless, I'd rather have her identity and true nature be something to be revealed later on, after some build-up of tension and mystery.
I'd love to see you come back with more content some day, IRL responsibilities come first obv.
I've only played Diablo 3 and never the first two games. But i do like how dark Diablo 4 looks and don't mind it going back to whatever the more hardcore Diablo fans wanted from 3.
As long as the game is still as fun as 3 was, i'm all on board.
dude you need to go play d2
The latest footage of D4 still gives me that D3 bullet hell arcade game feel... F! Keen to hear your thoughts on how you think it's shaping up now that we have more info and gameplay.
Always nervous anything Diablo. We will see!
Keep at it. Love your content about the Diablo franchise. Great vid
Always awesome content basil! Everything looks good to me so far!!
Hey someone said my name on UA-cam!
Thanks man, I'll keep an eye out for any unique D4 news
Pretty hyped, hope it will be worth the coin
Cant believe you only have 5k subs .. i just watch the 4 episode you did about d3 .. good work good analysis very well said .. good job
The greater evils where absorbed into diablo along with the lesser evils as well using the black soul stone Reaper of souls ended with it being shattered essentially resetting things so yes the greater evils and Lesser evils can make a return with no major retcons there may need to be some soft ones involving diablo absorbing all of them but other than that nothing major
Darker, but still too much light and glares and rainbows and no need of thunders, lights and explosions everywhere all the time in all the colors.
Not gonna give a chance to this until they prove they did it right that time..so say, 2 months after the release, if they have a good amount of good reliable reviews and they dont repeat the mandatory login to play. and specially in a never working servers like d3 was..
Imagine I can still play my d2 game still today, but my vanilla d3 is useless at this point.
Microtransactions, two slot (runewords), castrated version of D2 skill tree and much more to expect - thanks, but i pass this time. Ps: graphical aspect looks good, but keep in mind that it will come out in 2021 or 2022.
I want the walk and run option with stamina back in the game. The slow pace and sense of dread is what we need.
And I don't want that in the game. One of the only things that I would change even in D2 is the complete removal of stamina system. It's just annoying sticky keys triggerer.
As I was always saying, D2 would be a perfect game if it was better graphics and there was no stamina annoyance. (And more balanced runewords but that's whatever). Just for some reason, people think that game design HAS TO change because it was used before... which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
@@ShadowViewsOnly I played the darkening of tristram event in d3, and what made It more challenging was the walking pace. As for making the game more mainstream that is the dumbest thing iv read from a diablo fan.
sure d2 with better visuals is what I would prefer too, but I also don't want the ability where I can easily run away when in danger.
Kiting diablo @ hell with a a friend is still one of the most memorable moments from Diablo II
@@Dknightxs Looks like you didn't understand what I wrote AT ALL.
The Darkening of Tristram was cool for 1 sole reason: The gritty goodlooking artstyle. Just like anything else in D3, the anniversary event did not have ANY difficult parts in it that were memorable. If you think that it was in any shape or form difficult, then I'm sorry for your damaged brain.
Getting rid of the stamina bar is in no shape or form streamlining. It's just the removal of a constant button mashing, that would have had 2 impacts: 1 was that sticky keys wouldn't have constantly come up, basically alt tabbing out of the game, and 2, disrupting the flow of the game by having to mash control all the time, making your hand positioned at a very awkward and unconfortable way. Now that I DEFINATELY remember from back in the day... And I always wished it didn't exist... Even David Brevik agreed :D.
You cannot just run away from danger, neither in D2 or D3, nor in Vanilla WoW, and that has nothing to do with the stamina bar. It has to do with the quantity of aggroed mobs and their abilities. Just to take an example from WoW (knowingly not from Diablo), try running away from Defias Trapper and Defias Pillager group in Westfall... Good luck with that. Just a quick note tho, you will fail :)
Even though WoW doesn't have a stamina system at all, you cannot just run away from fights. AKA, not having the stamina bar, doesn't mean that you can just flee from a losing fight. (even though I think that's stupid in the first place, not being able to choose when you engage, but whatever).
Also, I dunno why you would need to kite diablo in D2, even in hell, you can just beat him down easily, chaos sanctuary is MUCH harder than diablo himself, but let's just skip this point now.
@@ShadowViewsOnly thanks for explaining in so much detail, however I think it was my poor choice of words. Maybe its not the stamina that I want but rather the slow paced game style. D3 despite its fluid combat just didn't felt right.
Looks good, most have some dedicated members on the team now. Fighting the prime evils again would be lame. Maybe Mephisto.
Diablo IV should have the prime evils become human. And you can choose which ones to hunt down first and the final boss is the fully demon form of the prime evil you chased after last.
Items and customization seem as bad as d3 from the devs talk.
Just discovered your channel and love it. Let`s hope D4 lives up to the d2 quality. For now i`m more hyped by Path of Exile 2.
hope this diablo 4 dont suck .. i play diablo 1 and 2 but never play diablo 3 because its tooo cartooney and u know the rest !
I don't know, it seems to be everything i wanted from a Diablo. Darker and Gorier, but for some reason i am not excited one bit. They fucked the story with D3 and these "Nephalem" characters who are basically Demi Gods cutting through anything on their parth... 50 kills in a few hits... kinda lame honestly. I like the pace of the first game because it was brutal and had no remorse if you fucked up in a corner, each fight was an epic journey. I doubt D4 can bring something like that, from what i seen is D3 with less bright and cartoony feel.
my man
I think they just announced it because of the pressure. I dont think they were in any rush to create diablo 4. If the fans wouldnt have been completely pissed after the disaster that was the announcement of diablo immortals, they wouldnt have even bothered. Just like bethesda with TES 6. They just released a trailer to shut people up. As it stands now, it looks wack tbh.
Basil you've made a grave mistake. You keep calling them Blizzard. They're called Activision now.
True.
you should do a video about d2 median sigma, that mod is amazing
max level 40 ?
No traiding to bis items ?
"Paragon Levels ? "
Attack and deffence ONLY ?
As much i want to believe , deep down in my heart i know.I know what's gonna be.
The road they have taken has not turning back and i am afraid i will be true at the end.
I wish i am wrong
I'm gonna be honest...they only returned to the dark and gritty look because they knew that would sell with the people who've been pissed about Diablo 3, Diablo Immortal, etc. I hate to say it, but LOOKING dark and gritty just isn't enough. If the gameplay is too shallow, people will leave again anyway. And guess what? So far, the loot itself is STILL not exciting, interesting, engaging, or tactical in choosing what to wield, at all. From what they've shown off, it seems they're doubling down on how powerful you get with set pieces, AND they had the audacity to add mythic items, which are basically Destiny 2 exotics...just no. If I want to play Destiny 2, I'll go fucking play Destiny 2. Just give me a worthwhile sequel. Give me engaging gameplay, gritty, gripping, terrifying visuals and story, give me atmospheric music. I just want to play Diablo again, and so far, they've only nailed the gritty and dark visuals (and from what we've seen) story. It's a step in the right direction, but it's going to take more than appealing to my base nostalgia for what once was to get me to buy a Blizzard game that isn't Diablo 2 again.
All I see is a newly skinned Kerrigan from Starcraft 2. Modern Blizzard, by a long shot, doesn't have the creativity to recapture the class and spirit of their pre-Activision titles. They still make games with good gameplay but the aesthetics (graphics, animations and audio) remind me of Disney; Starcraft 2 is a good example of this. Diablo 4 will in all likelihood have some solid gameplay but will lack the extensive charisma of their older titles. Is this a bad thing for a videogame? For most people probably not, but for me, a Blizzard title is not the "holy fucking shit" moment it used to be during the late 90s and early 2000s.
D4 looks like what D3 should have been. I still dont think blizz will be able to replicate what blizz north back then did though. D1 and D2 are hard to replicate all the subtle things that made them so good. IDK if you can take that modernize it while trying to get the mass appeal audiences they want. The world bosses/mounts and stuff seem odd and out of place. We will see
Seems that you seen to think they are leaving D3 lore behind, they never say this so as to the end of reaper of souls stats, the souls of ALL the evils are free from the black soulstone
I’m gonna be honest I’m not really a Diablo fan cause I’ve only played 3 (and i liked it) but i will say this, these guys didn’t even make you a game till everyone bitched in the 2018 Blizzcon. From watching your past reviews of D2 vs D3 it seems they also neglected a lot of their previous work when making D3. So I really wouldn’t have your hopes up. It’s kinda bull that Blizzard is treating you guys like this.
I would like to present to you my list of feedback concerning artstyle. Feedback was detailed but mostly focused on game mechanics but I felt like the community missed some aspects of the game. Art and ascetics are a subjective topic, this is why I had to gather enough screenshots and references to prepare this list. I think they are doing big mistakes that nobody talked about. Some smaller mistake could become bigger once they develop the game further.
us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d3/t/d4-art-look-feel-screenshot-catalog/7397/
I don't know if this help you, or if you know are into history. These issues took me a lot of time to analyse, immediate feedback is good, but in depth feedback is also very important. I don't know if you plan to make other feedback videos, if you gather more feedback from other people...But I'd love to watch them.
holy hell! I'll definitely check this out. This is extensive stuff I've been looking for. My script is in the works at the moment and I'll definitely make sure I include some of your insight in regards to the artstyle.
I am by no means an expert on that subject so this is very helpful.
Thanks!!!
@@TheSuperRetroBros Feel free to use my pictures. You can also provide the link if you want. Thanks so much for your reply. Diablo means a lot to many of us. (Feel free to comment my thread)
Regarding game mechanics, you probably know the videos of Mrllamasc, who made a breakdown of d2's strengths right after Blizzcon.
I also find this video particularly deep:
ua-cam.com/video/X9iAlQQaXGA/v-deo.html
Anyway I look forward to see your take on this.
No DH!!!??? :( Sorc it is then!
Hm, I would assume other classes will return in xpacs or DLC...
But yeah Sorc looks pretty cool like usual.
I really don't know if I should jump the gun with diablo 4, on one hand I fucking hate blizzard for all the shit they have done to there fans for years
but also theirs that side that loves diablo 2 and classic blizzard
I'll buy D4 if and ONLY if it has the necromancer and not mtx of any kind.
it wont :)
Then you are not really a fan of Diablo anyways
The prime evils should be back at the end of d3 the black soul stone was broke releasing the souls of the prime evils which means based on the lore the souls will return to hell and Lilith made sanctuary I dout she coming to destroy it and not to mention when they were going to kill e nephlim she went psycho and killed all the angles and demons on sanctuary she pronounces going to be brought back to help stop them
It's ok we all have stuff to do. d4 release is VERY far away. Take the time to gather all the informations online and on the forums. Then make a complete video :)
Yup, real deal, FOR ActiBilizzard...Full price game, full price expansions, always online, "cosmetic" shop à la Eververse. 15$+ epic mounts, maybe throw in a "time saver" or two. I just vomited inside.
Seems like improved and darkened Diablo 3. That's fine but it's another branch of Diablo mechanics.
Real Diablo is Torchlight and it's a pitty those developers are removed from the franchise, they can grow and they expanded D2 mechanics.
It looks amazing, but the storytelling is apparently still going to tell you everything and not let you figure out/imagine anything yourself.
If they are making it with console versions in mind, will be the same disaster. The 3rd didn't fail because the cartoonish style (see Torchlight), It fails because it is a console game.
Good RPGs and ARPGs was always planned to be played on PC: Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Diablo 2, Divinity Original Sin, Dragon Age Origins, Pillars of Eternity, Path of Exile, etc. then, ofc they can be 'ported' to consoles, but we notice that they are 'unplayable' with controller, cause was designed for Keyboard + Mouse. Different was Diablo 3, which we can FEEL it has a simple design, even when was launched first on PC, was obvious they had console versions in mind because of its extreme simplicity, empty scenarios, etc.
The key is to design only with the Mouse in mind, then, if they want, they can port in whatever quality, but PC version (which everyone WILL play it forever), should be the only version in mind during the development.
Diablo III wasn't on consoles at launch
@@Robin-lg6mzI talked about that, yes, wasn't, but it is obvious was designed limited enough to fit in a console with minor adjustments.
U cant compare torch and diablo. It's ok for torch to be cartoon ish. Diablo 3 was to much wow like for some1 who never played wow or will ever play it looked awful. I did not even buy ROS and I really did not care how good they made diablo 3 with that expansion becous it was still the same loony toon cartoon artwork.
The game was like PG..5. well am sorry let 5 year olds play that bugs Bunny diablo then
If they cut off boss cinematics and just give them creepy vocal when u meat them. This new game would be 30% better then d3 already
I agree with the notion that D4 should be designed with PC in mind FIRST, and whatever console iterations they come up with will satisfy the crowds outside of the PC community.
You named quite a few amazing games there.
@TheSuperRetroBros
Betting $100
It's another Warcraft pretending to be Diablo... (Gameplay, Enemy design and Boss Stage design)
Blizz didn't actually listen to the problems..
I remember when diablo 3 was announced, everything looked like it was going to be like diablo 2. Man, did we ge screwed. I went it bought it right as it came out. Diablo is dead because blizzard is they. Just let them die so the next big-shot company can come along and release the next diablo 2 ...
Always-Online, Microtransactions, the Auction House...all of that is coming in Diablo IV.
Someone else deserves this IP, not Activision/Blizzard.
The franchise died with d3. Activision cannot make a good blizzard game.
diablo 4 is a mobile game. Do you think they'd give up the mobile phone market just because they spent 20,000$ on a 9 minute animated film? Whether we like it or not, blizzard is right that the mobile phone market is way bigger than PC market, and they will go after that money.
Diablo 4 is a console and pc game. Diablo immortal is mobile. Immortal looks like it's based off the d3 engine. Diablo 4 looks like it's based on unreal engine but could be something in-house. But graphically it's very unreal
@@freedomofmotion no lol. D4 looks exactly based on D3. Even the items glow the same on the ground (orange glow)
@@meocats Because the glow items give off is how to tell what game engine is being utilised rather than literally everything else that makes up the image.
Just look at the character select screen for diablo 3 and diablo 4 and tell me again it's the same game engine.
Or just research ? "It’s a brand new engine, brand new renderer, brand new lighting tech. We have dynamic time of day that happens when you’re in the overworld. We even have dynamic time of day in the random exterior dungeons we’re making."
Every asset is now a 3d model as well, the way the game is made is completely different.
@@freedomofmotion new models same engine. why would they write a whole new engine, that's extremely stupid. It takes years and then it comes with its problems on release which need to be patched.
@@meocats Because the d3 engine was already ancient on release.
Newer engines /APIs can utilise hardware more effectively so often can reduce system requirements at the low end. Plus they look better if you do have good hardware.
You can't just keep dragging your feet using ancient software ,that's why Skyrim and fallout are so buggy because game byro is old as shit and they hamfist features Into it.
So despite the developers of the game stating it's brand new you believe otherwise,that just seems obtuse.