Karen Read Case: What Happened to Officer John O'Keefe?
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- Опубліковано 1 вер 2023
- Karen Read is accused of killing her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe, by hitting him with her car, leaving his body in the snow. Read claims she is a victim in a big cover up by police. The battle in and out of the courtroom has been intense. #CourtTV breaks down each piece of evidence in the case to try to answer the big question: what happened to John O'Keefe?
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The home owner Brian Albert, who happens to also be a Boston Police officer, never even came outside while a fellow officer was found dead on his front lawn.
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Albert is not just a police officer. He's a high ranking official in Boston Police Department. He is very decorated along with his family.
Why was the basement floor replaced? Why was the pool filled in? Why sell the house that was said to have been in the family for 50 years? Dog is MIA. The wounds on O'Keefe's are seem to be difficult to explain since they look like he was not wearing a long sleeve shirt & winter jacket! It seems like there was little or no clothing protection on his arm. imo
I find that hard to believe. Or was he not a friend ? Ppl even go outside if a Dog/pet gets hit but not for a friend. And friend enough to hang out with and invite to his hm. Or were they “friends”. Seems unreal IMO
That's because they had something to do with it as well as his dog IMO she's innocent they are framing her PERIOD
Why never ask any neighbors for any doorbell footage? Why never go in the house and investigate? How come his “buddies” never came out side to help him? Too many unanswered questions.
How do u know they didnt talk to neighbors or get footage?
The Canton Police Chief lives across the street. He claims there is nothing on his camera. @@WVGIRL72
@@WVGIRL72They did not, read the case documents.
its proven days ago they hid the 18 year olds car in front of the house where he was placed and he got kicked out of bridgewater state and has to go see a grand jury , they believe he did it
@@WVGIRL72 they did not. They detail in the court documents what they did/who they sought out cameras or footage from. They didn’t even subpoena for the neighbors Ring camera across the street pointing directly at the alleged crime scene. Why wouldn’t they want the best form of evidence to support/prove their case? There are hundreds of cameras on her route home they could’ve retrieved, but they retrieved none. That’s intentional.
Does anyone find it shocking that Brian Albert replaced his basement flooring and sold the house after this incident?? How about the fact he got rid of the 6 year old family dog as well.
I would like to see the proof of this. Where can I find it please?
Can you please tell us where you heard this ?
Sad really, but huge red flags. I go over this case on my channel cuz the corruption is rampant here.
What would even be the implied relevance of those details? It's not like he buried a bodyin the basement, the guy was found dead outside. It's not like his dog killed the guy and he got rid of the evidence 😂 maybe he was already selling his house or maybe he sold because of the bad attention the home would be getting now.
Well I would like to know how long after did he redo the basement and sell the house. I mean if he was getting Harassed obviously, he's gonna sell the home and a lot of times basements always need to be redone or finished before putting on the market. But If I play devil's advocates. The only reason why he would change the basement get rid of the dog as if it was partial evidence and the reason why they would have put him outside is maybe he went unconscious lost consciousness, and they thought that he was dead already. But it's way more likely this was an accident and both sides are pointing the finger for no reason. She should be charged for Is drunken in dangerment if she hit him. And I see alot of these drunk cases where ppl don't even remember seeing small details at the time. Especially with being drunk. There was a police that watched a girl turn a corner and hit three vehicles and she totally couldn't get out her car because it was smashed into the vehicles and she really fight about being able to get out. She swear her vehicle wasn't hit or damaged and everyone could see it was. And she wasn't faking she was drunk.
Question: if the prosecutor is so confident of their investigation WHY have they fought tooth & nail to keep her defense team from getting access to everything? Why are they not allowed to have an independent autopsy injury by injury? Why not turn over his clothes? Why not present the dog even to rule dog scratch out? Why fight the actual words from Celebrite? She also indicated finding the Google search & erased? Those who have nothing to hide hide nothing!
Have there been any motions to compell filed? If not it is a rumor that state is withholding evidence.
@@kristenpino4635yes there has been. A lot!
Turtleboy on you tube has a link that will clearly show undisputed evidence Karen Read is innocent!
Good questions!
@@kristenpino4635yes many times
Why would she run him down on purpose in front of a cops house? No way.
I think she knocked him down but I don't think she did it on purpose. The court case will bring more info and clarity.
Because you know where everyone thinks the best place for murder is? Right in front of TWO cops’ houses! The neighbor directly opposite the street is also a cop.
@@BritBiatchthe state’s alleging & charged her with doing it on purpose…2nd degree murder
Running him over was probably an impulsive decision , fueled by anger and alcohol. She was probably angry he wanted to go to this party and she didn't .
@@exitscreaming4637you have zero knowledge about this case.
Innocent people don't start deleting phone calls while their "friend" is dying on the lawn!!
What time did she delete things? How do you know he was " dying " at the time ?
Guilty people don't volunteer the phone either. She volunteered her phone, hard to think someone involved would do that as well.
@@exitscreaming4637 I don't know when she deleted sorry, but she deleted messages, do you know why? I still say,innocent people don't start deleting, they say "here, take it, go through it, have at it,..I have NOTHING TO HIDE" ..
@@NancyBarry-qn8zn I can easily see a scenario where someone would delete things . We don't know her explanation , but she testified that Karen was panicked when they discovered the dead body and asked her multiple times "how long it takes someone to die in the snow " or something similiar.
@@exitscreaming4637 ok in my opinion, there's be no reason to start deleting messages, it's not a good look, I'll agree to disagree, since there's a hundred more things we could say. Why did they sell the house, oh, people move all the time, so what? Where's the dog, oh, that's normal, but when I worked with canine officers, their dogs were treated like family members, honored for the work they've done, allowed to retire & live out their lives with their cop & family. There's too much reasonable doubt, and idc what time she was allowed to delete messages, her, and everyone's phones, should have been taken in as evidence, as the caution tape should have been in place, and a proper investigation done, maybe we wouldn't be here today, trying to rationalize a person deleting things during, before, or anytime DURING a murder that had just so recently occurred.
Them injuries are 100% NOT from being run over/stuck by a car
He wasn’t “run over”, he was struck and smashed his head probably on the hydrant when he landed. The cuts were from the glass he was holding
@RealTigress ok, struck at what speed ? It was on a driveway and snow on the ground remember, so it will be doing 5 -10 mph and it causes all them injuries and death, wake up !
@@RealTigressaccording to who? The state hasn’t alleged any of what you’ve stated
@@Leightonkexactly also if he were struck by her car it would be in the street. Karen was already faced in the direction to go her route home and there was no one in front of her, according to Jen maccabe, Matt McCabe & ryan Nagel. Why would she put her car in reverse if she was facing the right direction and didn’t need to turn around or reverse directions to go home? Furthermore, if she had inexplicably gone in reverse, why would she back up and drive onto someones front yard, especially toward a fire hydrant? Plus he wasn’t really found next to the fire hydrant, rather it seems a bit further back & to the right closer to the flagpole.
@OliviaNile I agree, nice to hear from someone with some common sense, as there seems to be a shortage of it lately
It’s not that they believe they are framing her as much as they believe they are using her as a scapegoat to protect one of a fellow police officer
I agree. Something happened i that house. They moved the body outside.
Good point
There was another car directly behind Karen Read arriving at the crime scene….how did 3 people in the car behind NOT see a 6” man getting struck by car???
And there were several people in the house who all had to go home at some point. How did they all walk out into the front yard to get into their cars and not see a dead body on the lawn?! The people in the house are liars.
My Dude, Are you freaking NUTS???!!!!!!
John O’Keefe WAS NOT 6” tall!!!!
He was a Full-Sized adult male, not a “Miniature” Person.
Dude: Here’s The First OBVIOUS question:
How could you become a Boston Cop if you’re only 6” Tall?
Imagine a guy who is 6” Tall trying to apprehend a Bank Robber. It’s not a good Idea to hire a 6” Tall Cop.
Get real.
I’m tired of you claiming he was 6” Tall.
@@marygoff3332you’re right I didn’t even think about that part.
He was only 6 inches tall (“) not 6’? WOW! 😂 I know it was a typo but I had to laugh.🤣
@@marygoff3332 exactly, the prosecutor states 11 witnesses in the house. Funny they are considered witnesses, yet no crime committed.
That google question about how long takes to die in the cold , and the fact that nobody inside the house went out to check where he was, are real red flags about the crime happening inside the house and afterwards throwing the body out in the snow,therefore the question of how long takes to die in the snow, to make sure the victim is going to be dead when someone find him,and clearly unable to talk. The killer or killers were inside the home.
Exactly 💯
It is ridiculous how the evidence that raises reasonable doubt gets ignored and the lack of investigating things that could be evidence to exonerate Karen wasn't done.. hmmm
Exactly.
A conversation about the cold may well have been discussed in the house innocently, which in turn led to somebody googling how long it takes for a human to die in the cold. Nothing strange or weird about that, just coincidental. Also, the phone evidence relating to the movement and position of the actual phone will trump any silly step-counting app data that can be altered by merely shaking the phone. If the phone never entered the house then neither did John. End of.
💯💯💯 spot on
Next thing I noticed you guys had gotten wrong. Karen Read was already back home at johns house at 12:45. And nobody ever claimed to have seen her vehicle back up. In fact the only person saying they saw the car leave in the court documents says she left the same direction her car was facing. And still, nobody saw a body? Plus again, if Karen’s statements aren’t reliable because of drinking well then the same thing should apply to the rest of the people in that house
@HalfHammerr. Great points.
Cops don't drink and drive though, so.....
My Deepest Sympathy to Officer O:Keefe's Family, Department, and his Community.🥀🥀🥀💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️ Prayers for Justice 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Notice how this channel didn’t think it’s important to send their condolences to the family of the victim. Maybe because they were too busy suggesting one side is to blame.
@renee1961. Your comment is the best by far. You have humbled me. I am ashamed. I will pray for forgiveness, and repent of being far too interested in judging comments.
Dear God in the name of Jesus Christ, keep Renee always surrounded by Your grace. Amen.
His family yes.
And ALL HE O”KEEFES FAMILY WANT KAREN IN PRISON. BECAUSE THEY NOW HOW EVIL SHE IS. NOT THE FIRST TIME
Go ask turtle girl. THAT COWARD BLOCKS ANYONE THAT ASK REAL QUESTIONS. HER FAMILY N LAWYERS ARE PAYING TURTLE BOY. THATS FACTS. it’s all for money for scam artist turtle boy
If someone drops you off at a house, would you walk around the back of the car ? How fast did the car hit him on a snow covered sloped driveway?
How would glass get embedded in the bumper, it would have to impact something immovable not a human?
The wounds are NOT from a car accident period, if experts say they are they need to change jobs ffs
She did a 3 point turn. That means she backed up smfh
First off, wether or not all of the drinks were alcoholic or if she was drunk. Your “expert” woman who first spoke said she can’t believe these officers let a person drive drunk. WTF DO YOU THINK THEY WERE DOING THEMSELVES?!?! Everything this “expert” is saying could be applied to every single person at that house.
Another good point. They need to move on from this.
Homeowner replaced flooring in house…then sold the house for under value of market. Hmmm
Home owner also got ride of their dog.
I hope to God the FBI tracked down the flooring material that was removed from the house right after the incident.
@@marygoff3332 or go into the house with new homeowners permission and do an investigation. Something has to be left behind.
A house that had been in the family for 50 years. They are not innocent
@@dianahernandez1709a home is a key component to generational wealth. He sold it at a loss robbing a next of kin the chance to inherit it. That’s a cover up. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever to sell that home.
John had all of that trauma and injuries but the only thing damaged on the car was a taillight?
Not even the whole taillight was broken and no damage to rear end.
And wouldn’t she have to hit something harder than a body to break a headlight? Like another car!
Those marks to me are consistent with a dog attack, I have first hand experience. A dog attacked me a number of years ago, didn't puncture but scratched exactly like in those pictures. I still have the scars from it.
Dogs scratch differen now aday!
My dog got into a scuffle with a GSD. The GSD had a scratched ear my Bully "had mark's just like that", because the GSD couldn't get his teeth into my little piggy. It was my fault, I'd only had him 2 weeks at the time, fixed the problem.
Same here. I was attacked by a German Sheppard at 9 years old. My scars look like I fought Wolverine. The pictures my gradpa took of my bites are identical to his, but on the top of my arm. Also I'd like to add, when I was attacked by the dog I got a massive head injury because the force of the dog leaping on me, I hit my head on the curb, the pictures of that look as if I got hit with an axe. I had a tee-shirt on. My mother still says the emts said it would of been deeper wounds if I didn't have that on.
Agree, they absolutely look like scratch marks. When I was a kid the neighbors Shepard jumped up on my back and slid all the way down. It looked like my back had been slashed just like the injuries seen here.
Poor girl cant even mourn his death.
The " poor girl " who is accused of his murder ?
Why not? Assuming she's innocent, she's likely mourning it right now.
Very fishy. These people know more.
The Google search only happens after he was beaten to a pulp inside the house then put out in the front yard to die. Plow driver saw no body less than 10’ from the curb at 2:30am.
Its not a conspiracy to frame her per se.. its a conspiracy to keep one of their own from being in the frame!! There IS a difference! And she is innocent.
She’s innocent? Lol
@@bbginc694are you saying those lacerations on his arm were caused by a car knocking him over?.. Don't give up your day job!
All of the people at the party would have to be in on it. LOL
@@brbrknndy Are you kidding me? The house belongs to LE.. First thing these people do is close ranks... ITS THEM OR US, and so a cover up begins!
Agreed❤
There has been 2 people that are retired K-9 trainers. They both said these are definitely bites from K-9. What's this ladya training in K9 bites. She have any. Or is it just her opinion. Karens car had no damage at all. With these injuries she would have damage.
I trained and raised dogs for 15 years. His arm injuries are 100% dog claws & Canine teeth.
Her car had damage , then her lawyers lied and tried to explain it away as her car hitting John's .
Not a chance. I googled dog bite photos and they look NOTHING like this.
The Google Search IS the smokin gun!
To say these people are experts is laughable.
They were all drinking and driving not just Karen
I know. They keep emphasizing that Karen was drinking, when they ALL were, tho!! 😡
Agreed! But, we all have to remember, it's Karen's trial now.
@@EC-dz3fb but everybody involved was drunk. They're all part of the case
There was a known angry dog in that house. The victim has dog bites on his arms. Dont need much of an imagination to figure out what happened. Victim reacts, dog owner reacts. Fight ensues. The medical examiner and crime scene people should be able to tell the differences between a car run over. Which in my mind doesnt make sense.
Where is the dna from these scratches. They have to present or cased closed..
@@adriennem7927police did NOT investigate that …homeowners then removed their family pet a German Shepherd
@@adriennem7927based on the latest court filings it appears dna from John’s arm lacerations may have not been preserved for the defense to independently test.
@@adriennem7927 the district attorney discarded the evidence
@@adriennem7927 you tell me
The defense lawyer is not playing around. He means business. Good
She did it!!
She did it and she sits there so smug. And as far as those spectators they probably getting paid. I wouldn't want any of them on a trail because apparently they hate police.
Protestors are entitled to protest. If they believe an injustice is happening, who cares what the DA says.... he can take a tantrum for all anyone cares. He cannot silence those who know what has happened. I really hate the way a defendant is scrutinies in every tiny part of her life, to try and make mud stick!!!! This is a reasonable doubt case before it kicks off!!! Should never have come to court!!
If the protesters "know" what happened, they should be on the witness list. js
I KNOW more than 5 cars will drive past my house before I go to bed.
Doesn’t take a big leap nor a genius to figure some things out
@@ByronTexas I'm trying to figure out what you're saying. I know many cars go past my house, but not because I'm looking for them to pull up for a party. How does that connect to what the protesters know? js
How do you know who knows what happened?
Protesting outside the court house is one thing, however, making relentless physical threats of bodily injury and death threats to the witnesses as is the frenzied supporters of the killer & being orchestrated by a male individual who in this video, admittedly stated he doesn't even know the accused from a complete stranger in the street, is a whole other thing altogether.
Jennifer’s google search certainly creates reasonable doubt
Reasonable doubt of what
@@supriseimblackreasonable doubt of the defendant’s guilt. Was that a serious question?
@@TwistOfFate444 The Google search is not exculpatory. If anything it's inculpatory...
@@TwistOfFate444I mean there's already reasonable doubt throughout the case. So to say that the Google search ‘creates’ reasonable doubt doesn't make any sense...
I watched a hearing and, I'm leaning towards believing her.
Learning the victim’s cellphone health app that tracks steps etc showed he walked 80+ steps and climbed 3 flights of stairs after he arrived at the house. That did it for me!
Good job, you are right. Morissey will burn in hell.
@@jettyoeill Learning that Karen called a friend before returning to the murder scene and told her that John was dead did it for me .
@exitscreaming4637 where did u hear that?
@@heathertaylor5716 " Prosecutors have said that Read told the friends who she was with, as well as a Canton firefighter/paramedic at the scene, that she believed she hit O'Keefe with her SUV. One of the friends told police at the time that Read called her at 5 a.m. and said, "John's dead, I wonder if he's dead. It's snowing, he got hit by a plow."
I have a lexus suv there is no way that backing up into a person will brake the tail light you need a lot of force to brake it, it is very durable
And when a lexus tailight cracks the pieces go inside the rest of the light not out, its designed like that!
I think they killed him in the house, the dog definitely played a roll, plus the phone an the phone call, sink the prosecution, plus the forensic reports favours a beating not run over, not to mention hypothermia!
Why don’t they produce the 2 other victims who were attacked by the homeowner’s (Brian Albert’s) German Shepard? I’d be curious to hear about & take a look at (if any photos or documentation from the medical visits) what their injuries were like. That might provide some more insight on the relevant injuries the dog is certainly capable of given it sent 2 other people to the hospital, before it was mysteriously vanished about a week after the defense’s first motion filing implicating the dog.
She is 100% innocent and the party ppl know that too. I hope they don’t get away with this.
So you were there that night - will you take the stand? 🙄
@@dawnb3194fuck the police she's Innocent
Ok. Well you just saved so much money Kay. No more courts or lawyers or judges. Let’s just go with trial by UA-cam. She’s 100% innocent !
These are the only 2 who think she’s guilty. She didn’t do it! Get a clue experts.
So his head bounced of the ground 7 other times????
Apple health doesnt work like that Mr King. Its steps. The internet search indicates at least one person knew he was outside in the snow. Not rendering help. Was he hit by a car or was he beaten and placed there to finish dying? They need a second autopsy independent.
Turtleboy on you tube has a link to interview w the plow driver that night. It will answer all your questions, trust me
According to her testimony regarding the internet search , she googled that at the request of Karen after they discovered the dead body.
@@exitscreaming4637 no, she googled it at 2:27 in the morning… 3+ hours before she heard from Karen. And then she deleted the search and tried to override it. Explain that. Read the court documents and cell phone data.
@@Kidfunkids123 I think the time of the search is up for debate. It will be interesting to hear from the other people there
@@anadeandrade5368 I really don't want to have to look this up can you just tell us precisely what the plow driver said and if you think it was the plow driver who knocked him down and didn't realize it ?
I believe Karen Read is innocent 100%. John went into that house, from the scratches from the dog on his arms, to the apple watch walking through the house and upstairs, to them selling the house and the dog which now can't be investigated.
This has been a cover up by the ones there on the night and local LE (not through the ranks) and I'm assuming that the owner of the houses sister or wife may have been hooking up or flirting with John and that guy "an experienced boxer" got jealous/protective beat him up unintentionally killing him. Probably a king hit or as we call it a coward punch.
just to add if this fight happened there's a possibility John fell down some stairs sustaining more injuries and the Google search and knowing how long they needed to keep Karen away from finding him before he died makes sense. If she survived he would have said what really happened and they would be on trial now. I believe they knew where he was.
You clearly have not watched the Court TV videos who dispute the evidence and that includes the dog. D
@@BritBiatch I wish somebody would explain what they mean about the dog people keep bringing up the dog but I have no idea what they are saying ... did they sell the dog somebody else said they thought it ran away ?
I'm confused because somebody implied it was a police dog and I never heard of a police dog running away ... ?
Could only picture that happening if it was abused or traumatized .
Bro u are a genius man u are hired as my lawyer even though I haven't done anything wrong
Lol my boyfriend went in the house and hasn't come out in 15 min
Guess I'll just leave . Ok ??????
Those are definitely dog bites!
Nope.
She's gunna make Millions of this bull crap
If she did it or not, there’s no way Ms. Read should be convicted. There’s an inordinate amount of reasonable doubt here. I tend to believe she’s innocent and would be stunned if they convicted her.
They won't convict her. There were supposedly 11 people in the house. They all had to go home at some point. You're telling me 11 people who walk out into the front yard to get into their cars - and no one sees a dead body on the lawn, huh? Their case is BS.
@@marygoff3332 Agree, Mary. I don’t even believe this case should’ve been prosecuted. So, so many holes.
good point@@marygoff3332
@@marygoff3332 very good point
DNA FROM ARM!!
They failed to bring up the state trooper who had the vehicle and all physical evidence is a close family friend of the people who murdered John . How don’t those look like dog bite or scratches?
Worst cover up of all time and it needs to stop! 😂
Look up the Carol Ann Stuart case and you'll come to see that BPD lack integrity.
Let’s not assume she was intoxicated. I would go out with my friends and not ever drink alcohol but would have a Diet Coke. Just because she had a drink in front of her at any of the places they went doesn’t mean it had alcohol in it.
Great point, every witness interviewed in the police report stated that Karen Reed did not appear intoxicated
Karen told Jen and Kerry she was so drunk she didn’t remember dropping him off
@@reab07not true! She remembers all of it. She said she watched him walk to the door. A witness saw her in the car, dome light on, hands at 10 & 2 o'clock on the wheel.
Stop lying!
Then why did Jen and Kerry also both say she was not visibly drunk or appear intoxicated in their police interviews?
Who honestly drinks 6-7 sodas one after another? Alcoholic drinks are more likely.
I can’t believe this, the state police had the car 1 whole hr before, they said they did!
Soooo shady.
It seems like Albert pulled his connections to make this go his way. He's not just a patrolmen beat cop in Boston. He and his family are all-stars in the Boston Police Department and highly decorated.
It’s really unfortunate because if it was a regular joe schome with no money theyd be jail forever. Turlteboy you tube has a link to when he first spoke to the man who plowed 34 Fairview Rd. And boy is everyone scrambling now
This is crazy!!!
These are some real pieces of shits, now so much has come out that Feds have more than enough circumstantial evidence to fry at least 3 ppl an counting🤦🏽♀️it’s a shame that I’m from Boston. Commonwealth and Aunty Bias Bev should be ashamed of their behavior😠
They were HIS children. He adopted them.
♡😔♡
Looks exactly like paw scratch.
Oh Vinny! Nobody ever seems to mention the victims, the children that John and Karen cared for, who I wonder if a guardian should be making a claim on their behalf and on behalf of the estate of John for the loss of their uncle/guardian/services against the owner of the dog/owner of the house that would open up discovery under oath, and hold that claim in abeyance until further evidence comes forward in this criminal case so they do not miss a limitation . 💖🐾
That’s what really interested me in this case, she helped care for his nieces and nephew when their parents tragically died. Also the fact that his family was not speaking out w all the evidence. I feel so bad because Karen Read, was not allowed to grieve and help those very children that she took care of for the last 4yrs grieve. Instead made her look like a cold hearted, psychopath who decided “oh here’s my chance to kill him” dropping him off at a party.
Omgosh, there are legit too many problems with this case/investigation to even mention. So sad.
Mike King don't want to believe it
@@anadeandrade5368she started trust funds for the kids. She paid to bail Johns brother out of jail when he got arrested for DUI. She was a professor @ Bentley university & investor at fidelity.
They’re charging her with 2nd degree murder which requires intent & malice. Who in their right mind finds it remotely believable that anyone would think “you know where sounds like a good place for murder? Right in front of a cops house full of other cops, with Ryan Nagel also sitting in his idling car in the roadway near Karen, and directly opposite another cops house with a ring camera”.
Sounds like literally the dumbest place for murder. You know what else murderers don’t do? They typically don’t call their victim right after murdering them & leave an angry voicemail out of frustration because they’ve not responded to you since they stepped foot in the house.
And wouldn’t you think that if Michael proctor were so confident of this taillight murder theory that he’d subpoena for the ring camera directly opposite the street, which would provide the best evidence?
Why would he not do that? Maybe it’s because he doesn’t want to investigate something that may involve cops.
Simple case , accused was out of her head on alcohol, drunken argument ensues , she hits the gas , runs over boyfriend . Guilty of manslaughter
accidently clipped him, manslaughter at best. coverup is crazy af keep fishing.
I thought they have to prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?! Not that she has to prove her innocence?! The google searches provide enough doubt imo.
How many murders does it take for a murder to be arrested? From my understanding the Albert family already has one murder and one incident of hitting another officer at an event…. I say their history pretty much sums it up!!!
Does anyone know when this trial is going to start? I am definitely going to watch this one.
Next court date is 9/15/23
March
Starts tmro April 28
The very first time I heard this story it was so clear something happened in that house that is being covered up. I think there was a physical fight and okeef died or should I say murdered imo
Yep. Collin Albert, the aggressive meat head nephew who was dealing drugs and his MMA trained uncle, Brian Albert, sucker punched John.
@@meloneyparkerprobably sicked the dog on him than pounced on him themselves.
This case is so fu**ed up.
There was so much mentioned about the cameras catching her drinkin and it was a lot. Why not mention what the others were drinking and how they drove home?
Wait ... why would that pertain to 𝗞𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻'𝘀 innocence or guilt? (Sorry if I'm being thick! Just unable to connect those dots. ♡)
They all drove drunk including 3 cops and an atf officer and they only guess how much she drank they dont actually know they actually say they were guessing her BAC in the charging documents... which is ridiculous, u cant guess someones blood alcohol level LMFAO.
As she backs out of the garage you can see the light is not broken if you look at when she hits the brakes it's still red if broken it would be white light. i could be seeing it wrong but that's my observations. Most of us know we can't trust cops.
Or firefighters
That's exactly what I thought as well
i still think she had something to do w/ it. i don’t think Everyone else is lying. too many ppl telling that same story.
She is innocent. Crooked cops in that area.
Wasn't there a snowplow guy that went by and didn’t see him lying there?
It’s not a conspiracy to “frame her”, it’s a conspiracy to protect them, to protect their own. They could care less about Karen, of course, because who the heck wants to frame their own? If anything, this is all about protecting their own.
I tend to agree with that👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
What a panel!
Thank goodness for them all-
What a case!
FREE KAREN READ! 💥💥
So even if she did hit him, and say that lady who watched from the house saw the time it happened but didn't realize that he had been hit, - to me it looks like an accident. So if I was on the jury I would vote not guilty
This is exactly why I love Vinnie and his guests……they ask all the questions. Even the HARD questions 🌹🌹
💫What a great panel today!! I love all of you!!💕💕💕💕💕
They seem like nice people but again, the guests have zero knowledge of the details of the case. Like criminally ignorant
@@ByronTexasexactly. Zero knowledge.
ALCOHOL(ISM) is the main reason this happened
😢 dang, unfortunately
I find it disingenuous that Court TV did not show any other autopsy photos as they would show the injuries being greatly inconsistent with a vehicle hit. Those two blackened shut eyes definitely did not come from a vehicle hit.
Seriously?... It's an open case you dolt.
@@missypuffin8985 What ?
@@missypuffin8985 The autopsy photos are out there. Court TV just chose to not show them which was not honest.
She is guilty... she thinks she is entitled!
The car would have some body damage
This panel is absolutely ridiculous objective towards the wrong thing. Clearly a cover up
Not. their first cover up either. Google Sandra Birchmore and you will see this is not new.
glad you noticed too......although how could one miss that..
The 3 men weren't even prepared to go on the show. They clearly didn't even know about the google search. You could tell that was a surprise to them. That's unforgivable when you're asked to be "an expert" for the viewers.
He definitely violated ethical rules.
who did?
Procter
gotcha... agreed!
I'd venture to say that every member of that goof troop in that house that night has violated ethical rules... I mean, they failed at doing the BARE MINIMUM when they tossed human decency out the window... if they can't be decent human beings, how on earth can we expect them to be ethical?
The days that we automatically assume the cops and prosecutor are well meaning ARE GONE! I am former law enforcement and I do not just trust either. They may be pursuing justice or they may have an agenda. One thing I am sure of " I have never met a cop or a prosecutor that would admit it, when they were wrong!
Bingo. Never admit when they are wrong or make a mistake ever.... and thats a red flag for me.
I think it's possible either on purpose or by accident, she may have run him over. But reasonable doubt? All over the place. There is no explaining why Brian Albert didn't even leave his bedroom even when told about the body, cops, ambulance, etc., and he stays in the house? Why? And the google search. Those 2 things are more than reasonable doubt.
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I've never trusted the cops and neither do the judiciary. My late uncle by marriage was a high court judge and he told me "The police have abused every power they've ever been given."
i can believe Brian Albert never came out of the house with a fellow Boston PD Officer on his front lawn....what i'll never believe , is that he slept through the commotion of the plow driver scooping up John O'Keefe and driving over his grass like murphy stated on another Court TV episode
This next woman describing the injuries to his forearm is concerning as an “expert.” Those are certainly punctures and then scraped while punctured. Those wounds are open. They’re not just a scratch and certainly not road rash. And she says “could be from a car part?” Which car parts would cause an injury that punctures the skin than pulled at it? Those are absolutely consistent with an animal. You guys should be ashamed at having that woman on. She was clueless. She does not explain at all how those injuries could have even been possible in the incident of a car hitting them. Surprisingly neither has the prosecution. Because it’s almost impossible to do so in any logical way.
Edit: the other “experts” agreeing that those aren’t consistent with an animal. This is ridiculous. One google search will disprove that immediately. Google dog bites. These bites are exactly where dogs who are trains, get trained to bite. It’s absolutely unbelievable all would say those couldn’t be dog bites or scratches. That’s beyond nuts to dismiss
How did this case get this far? And people wonder why no one trusts cops or the court. Its shameful. Let this woman grieve.
Have you seen the behaviour of her friends in the courtroom? There is no way this woman is grieving, LMAO.
Why didn’t the canton police find glass at the scene ? It was found by state police 5 hours later…. Hmmmm
Good evening, Vinnie! Love your work! Thank You!
So was he holding a wine glass then when he got out of the car to go to this house ? Did he bring it with him from the bar they were at and was gonna carry it inside the house with him ?
Also this episode failed to mention how the commonwealth just this weekend changed the words in their own previous court document filings of this case to try to change context of things. That’s highly unusual and suspect. No mention of it here and I have to wonder if any of these people besides Vinny are actually paying attention to any of this case.
This! Trying to change and cover their asses!
How the hell can you edit previously submitted court documents?
@@j.d.buchanan4897 you’d have to ask lead investigator Michael proctor of the mass state police department and/or the DA’s office. Because they’re the ones who did so
@@j.d.buchanan4897 They cant, they submitted more documents just changing certain words, phrases, contexts and adding things. The fact that the judge says nothing about it is a problem.
This panel is full of boot lickers and shills. They're playing the ol, "So the whole department and DA's office is in on the coverup and frame job?" angle. The DA is going to give the PD every single ounce of benefit of doubt, and believe everything their officers say, and use any micro shred of so-called evidence to prosecute this helpless woman so they don't have to go after the a whole bunch of cops in the PD.
I love the stupid looks on this panels face as they one by one say, "Well those don't look like dog bites to me". Bullsh!t.
#1 if there was no tail light damage when she pulled out of her garage at 5:00am how is that not evidence of innocence bc supposedly she had already hit him?
#2 the google search for how long to die in cold is the smoking gun.
#3 massive police cover up. As if that's shocking and totally out of the question.
My phone showed my walking into the middle of the Atlantic ocean when I went for a three mile walk in uk. 😂phone is un reliable.
Yep. And I have watched my food being delivered to me as the driver drove through multiple peoples houses and yards to bring it to me. Those maps are unreliaable for sure.
They are not uniform and symmetrical marks. Have they even googles dog bite marks?!
I did just now and what I saw looks nothing like these photos. These are NOT dog bite marks.
Why is everyone so quick to throw her under the bus ????? As they said - if SHE had done the ‘how long to die in the snow ?’ search - It would be the prosecutors winning card. But because someone else from inside the house did it - they are all trying to find reasons why the prosecutor must be careful in using it. I am totally confused
Karen didn't Google it; it was Jenn, I believe.
@@mollykillarney2419 I know. That’s why I am confused 😐 Because if Karen had done the search - it would be a no brainer. But it was done from inside the house - that should be a no brainer 🤷♀️
@@tracyjane1000 Ahhh - now I see what you meant.
She didn’t google it, the ‘friend’ Jennifer did (then deleted history) hours before calling her at 5 am to say where’s john leading karen back to the home where the murder occurred to find John herself, starting the frame job.
Woah woah woah. Hold on. Major injury missed in the section that went over the injuries. It’s major because it’s to his hand. Bruises that are commonly known as boxers fractures which bruises the top of the hand above your knuckles. Which is exactly what also showed up and was missed here
So when she’s let go will these cops be charged
Shoot, I’d be surprised.
Fed are involved. They better be!
Aiden(turtleboy) has all the evidence. This is the sloppiest cover up! RIP O’Keefe! Free Karen Read!!
I can see from your other posts that you fall for anyone who cries victim. It’s nice that you think the best of the one who seems to be the underdog, but I really encourage you to read about malignant narcissist traits. You’re a compassionate person & those types will damage you if you don’t educate yourself about how they operate.
Karen will never sleep with TurtleBoy, though obviously, that’s His Dream.
Here’s what actually happened:
Karen and her Boyfriend were drunk and fighting.
He got out of the car, and in her drunken state, she ran him over, and probably didn’t even know she did it.
She drove home drunk, and probably has a vague recollection of that night.
She killed him, yet probably has no recollection of it, and most likely did it by accident.
@wildmercuryfilms that's not what the evidence shows. Why did Jenn McCabe Google "hos long to die in the cold" at 2:30 am and then attempt to delete the search?
@@wildmercuryfilmsyeah and all of this took place in front of a seasoned cops home and they never saw it or heard it even though Jen and Matt McCabe claimed to be watching for john to arrive 🥴🤪🙄
Seasoned cops? I say corrupt cops!!
I hope they took swabs from his arm to get DNA to determine if is a dog 🚨🚔if thats possible
This is nuts. She is innocent of murder
@@bbginc694 that Google search was done by Jenn McCabe not Karen Reed
@bbginc694
I think that Google search came from the wife of the police officer, owner of the house where party was.
@@bbginc694she didn’t make that google search 😂😂😂
@@discopuma why did Jen Google it and than erase it?
@@bbginc694 that’s the big question.
What is victims family saying ?
I apologize if I'm wrong, but I believe(?) they feel Karen had something to do with their son's death. 😔
Dunno much about this case but looked up dog wounds, bites, scratches and that looks definitely like a dog attacked him so many similar pics if you search…
Chloe was their family german shephard they got rid of when the 1st questions started being asked about her (longtime family dog) and animal control records that the dog sent two other ppl to the ER. Also they sold that house and did over the basement floor after it happened its only been a year and a half and that house and dog have been gone a while.. the house was never searched. Another cop who lived across the street at the time just happened to claim his ring cam magically was not working that night... too many damn coincidences here obv something stinks
Also the home owner who was also a cop NEVER came outside when EMS & cops and a body are on your lawn, your a trained cop and you never go outside? C'mon!
I've watched this a number of times . No way theres any broken glass from the taillight when she reverses out that guy who said you see it shatter is corupt no way did it brake just look at the angle of inpact impossible the friends are involved they killed him and trying to implicate Karen Reed who is innocent . Thats a dog injury seen it before you got a lot of coruption going on .
The suspected dog bites?
Look like one my daughter got from her German fighting another German Shepherd , when she rried to break them up with her arm. Exactly the same.
And they will attack if someone had attacked their owners
Why would she google that? Google gets people everytime
That video of Karen backing her car up to "go find John" where she hits John's car... I think that was done on purpose. She knows her car was damaged and she needed an excuse. She knew there was a camera there, so that's where she did it. It literally looked like she backed up with the specific intentions of hitting that parked car.
There wasn't any damage though. The alleged "tail light" evidence did come into play until HOURS later. The tail light was intact until after the vehicle had been towed and the conflicted to say the least Mass State Police lead investigator who has a Long standing personal relationship to those inside 34 Fairview had access to it. A personal relationship so close that his mother has called them their "2nd family".
And how does this girl get home from more Drinking??? A cops house and his domain. Hes responsible for his guest too. Nobody????
All I can say is that if I were to beat somebody up and especially if I were police officer, I sure as heck I'm not going to leave them outside my house
Great panel tonight, Vinnie. ❤Dr. Kenny Kinsey.❤
It doesn’t stick out to me because I’ve been on a date with a police officer who was drunk driving. I was scared for my life, he was going 90 in a 40 mph speed zone. He told me it’s okay I always get pulled over and they let me go.
you are stunning