Plasma Cutter VS Circular Saw STEEL CUTTING
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2020
- This is a dedicated steel cutting circular saw engineered for the heavy duty task put against a top of the line, industry leading Hypertherm Plasma Cutter (running on 220volts).
Evolution Steel Cutting Saw S185 (3yr wrnty): amzn.to/33K1ZRI
Spare 7.25" blades (made in Japan): amzn.to/2DPSMvY
Hypertherm Powermax 30xp(USA MADE): amzn.to/3ksGyu6
Silver/Red Metal Marking Pencils: amzn.to/33GGml0
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Thoughts: I wouldn't give up my plasma cutter but I wish I had this affordable circular saw 15 years ago. Blade life is dependent on the operator and the material being cut. The more stable the material the longer the blade life. Also the less force used by the operator, the cooler the blade runs and the longer the blade lasts.
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Thanks Moe, I didn't even know the saw existed. After watching your video I did a Google search for the thickness of bank vaults.
I'll bring the saw over and we can test it out on a few vaults..........
I think you might want to get the 9" version for that :)
I've used that saw for several years now and like using it. Still like using a worm gear skillsaw with a diablo ferrous metal blade better simply because of being able to see the line I'm cutting more clearly. But, the evolution 9" saw has a more powerful motor for cutting thicker steels and doesn't overheat as quickly. Nice video for those just getting started, or older people who need an easier route for a worn out body from YEARS of doing it the hard way! 👍
Manda el link de compra!
*Works great **MyBest.Tools** . Little lacking in power. You just have to cut a little slower. Compare to Rockwell pretty similar experience but cheaper price tag for this one. Love the lightest. Cuts accurately too.*
As a newbie in this area, I am still learning. I am glad I came across your channel. Very educational as I don't have the money to spend on expensive tools. Thank you so much for the video. It made me look at my circular saw in a different light. God bless you and stay safe.
Yeah, he is very impressive and has dozens of very creative solution videos to various problems.
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Good info. Retired from the sign industry where we cut tons of aluminum on miter saw. I piddle around at my friend's custom bike and rod facility. They do a lot of angle disc cutting. I'll show them this comparison. They also have plasma. Enjoyed vid. Good day.🇺🇸
Thanks.
Thanks Moe, now that's a brilliant demo and information. Love your work!
That was a great demonstration. But your dog is really kick ass!
Hey Thanks Man!
Pity he cut its tail not done on the breed at all.
Great video. I’ve been looking at the evolution stuff, now I’m sold.
Thankyou for the video! I like that the plasma cutter is not loud. Please do another with these two equipment and comparison with a vertical bandsaw.
A few points. Thanks for wearing your safety gear and the instructions, but most importantly, I love your pup.
Thanks for watching! Ginger is always up for a good water fight.
Great video as usual!
You are 100% on as to time and consumable estimates. Besides radius cuts there are still some place a plasma cutter is the best tool, For example chassis work with the body still on the car, it all depends on the type of work you are doing.
Keep up the good work!
I wouldn't trade my plasma cutter for anything but I'm realizing I no longer like it for straight cuts. However if I have my plasma already set up on a job and I need to cut something long straight I would still use. The tight spaces and angles my plasma can get into is invaluable.
I'm impressed. Like you, I purchased a plasma cutter for other than straight cuts. I still use my old cutting wheel but after seeing that saw in action, I may be changing my methods.
I new it was faster but I personally didn't think it was that much faster.
Plasma you can cut any shape you want no limit
Great information on the evolution saw and blade. If I ever do much metal work that would be one of my first tools. I have tried to use a magnetic broom but I don't any more cause it kept sticking to my head. Thanks for the video.
Thanks. Funny!
LmFAO! 🤣🤣🤣
One of the best Video's on cutting metal. Learned a lot. Thank you.
Thanks James
That saw was amazing! Totally impressive tool. Need to be getting one
I'm impressed with it.
Great video! I have for the most part switched to carbide wheel on my angle grinder for cutting. They last way longer then the high end abrasive disc's and as long as you don't mess them up in the first few cut will save money in the long run.
But each tool has its thing it excels at.
Which carbide wheel do you use on your angle grinder?
@jheissjr sorry for the super late reply 😅
I use the Lennox disks the last one has lasted over 3 years with median use.
Great video. Doing a project needing 1/2 in plate now I can finish it. Thanks.
The last 30 seconds of your video put a big smile on my face!!!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Thanks, Buddy and Ginger suits your family!! And with the saw it looks like you could cut bevels if needed and no air line or compressor. Just a drop cord or outlet. I just score stuff with a grinder and then beat it about the head and ears till it relents and turns loose. THEN clean it up! Thanks again and GBWYall!
Hey Thanks. Score and beat. Been there done that!
Thanks for the video. This cooled of my desire to wish for a plasma cutter. I've been using the metal cutting circular saw blade and find it very simple to use. I made a track fixture that allows me to clamp my material and cut angles.
Very cool! Problem is that 95% of all my cuts are straight. So the occasional times I need the plasma it's handy but not really worth the investment.
wow - I didn't know these products were made. Thanks for the video. I wasn't expecting it to be that quick.
Wow! I had no idea a metal cutting circular saw could be so fast. Nice demo!
Thanks for watching!
I just used one of these saws yesterday. I used the bigger saw has a door on the side to keep metal chips from going all over. Plasma cutter and Torch an chop saws all have their pros an cons! These saws are ver bulky an don’t fit into a lot of areas that a plasma cutter an torch will. Saws are nice for cutting plate steel catwalk an d flat wide open areas. Try sticking it inside a tight spot like a engine compartment or say leaf spring work? Each tool works better than others! I used saw to cut strips out of 2” - 1/4” square tube to make plow turf bars for a V-Plow. Much faster an cleaner than plasma or torch.
Well....Im SOLD....Thank you for the great demonstration
Thanks for watching.
Sold!!!!! Been using standard cutoff wheels for 15 years this was a mind blower!!
I bought the Evolution Compound Miter Saw last year. I've been using it in the shop cutting steel and aluminum, working on a basement remodel cutting wood, etc. These things are incredible!
My plasma cutter mostly sits on the edge of my welding table collecting dust now.
There WAS some serious pucker factor the first time I ran that blade into a bar of steel, but it cut through it like butter. No looking back since then.
That's where I am. I pretty much only use my plasma cutter for dismantling stuff anymore.
Both tools are better than a 4 1/2 in grinder and eating up cutter discs and showering yourself with hot sparks
I've burned up my fair share of 4 1/2 grinder discs.
So true!
Unless you're working from a basket 30 feet in the air. Or you've gotta crawl into a tight space and cut something out. But in a clean shop with plenty of room, you're definitely right.
I've still got one of those metal cutting saws that Harbor Freight used to sell. It cuts great, but is a real pain to change the blades and when you're cutting you can't see the blade so it's hard to make an accurate cut. It works best for long, straight cuts when you clamp a straightedge to the material. I still prefer a torch for cutting anything thicker than 1/4" though. If I start having a need for a metal cutting saw often, I'm going to look at this Evolution brand.
I love the little glass window on the operator side. It allows me a clear view of the line and front edge of the cutting blade.
Awesome video comparison.
I paid about $30 for my 7-1/4" Diablo steel demon blade and use it on my regular circular saw. I haven't used it much yet but it has cut 3/8" flat bar pretty easy. The thing I hate is bits of metal do go flying everywhere so I have to cover up.
The dedicated metal saws have more shrouding and spin slower so much chips fall to the ground.
Rheostat helps slow down saw
@@sixtyfiveford I use my Dewalt worm drive saw with a diablo blade. Turns a little slower than a sidewinder. Works great. I no longer see a need for a plasma cutter
This is new to me also. But I just purchased one because of your video. Thanks for your input and links.
I love these saws.
Just added metal cutting circular saw to my wishlist. Thanks for the info.
I'm impressed. I have their 9" which I thought I would use more, but it's heavy and bulky so I find myself avoiding it unless I need to do lots of straight cuts. This smaller 7.25" one though is light and nimble and does everything my 9" does(minus depth of cut) without operator fatigue. This has been my go to for the past 4-5months of owning it.
For plate steel, I often use my cordless DeWalt 5-1/4” circular saw with a carbide blade, and it works great - but I’ve never used it on more than 1/2” sheet or anything dimensional. For the latter, I always use a small horizontal bandsaw with cutting fluid to spare the blade. Plasma cutters are awesome, though, for non-linear cuts. Nice comparison video.👍🏼
The nice clean cut a carbide saw or bandsaw gives are great.
Thanks for this loved it. I have been putting off getting a plasma cutter.
They are fun but expensive.
Thanks for the demo, nicely paced and very informative. Guess who will be buying a steel cutting circular saw, if I can find one here in NZ at a sensible price.
It's amazing how different regions charge such different prices. I've been looking at a bunch of Makita tools that are only sold in NZ/AU and others that are cheaper than here in the States.
That Evolution saw is nice!! The plasma and abrasive wheels throw sparks and can start rags etc. on fire, looks to be safer for that. Great review.
The sparks is a major concern for me in the shop.
If you’re starting rag fires from your spark the grinder isn’t your problem lol
Been there n had that happen fire 🔥 bad
your tool den looks really impressive these days, you cleaned up good!
Thanks Man. Cleaning is just hiding stuff from yourself. I do like it but I've lost hours trying to find stuff that has been in the same place for 10years.
@@sixtyfiveford Until you get accustomed to where everything is, what you can do is take pics of your stuff, and in an app of your choosing, create a “where is it“ list (type in item & location). Since you’ll have a bunch of items in a single drawer/cabinet/shelf, just separate each tool name or category of tool with a comma, then state their location. When you’re looking for an item, just type it into the search bar.
There was a time when I knew where every single item I owned was stored, but my mind likes to purge information with greater frequency now, so I let the app do all the work for me. I just use the Reminders app on my iPad. I could use the Notes app, as well. The format doesn’t matter as much, as long as the search function does its job.
That's a great test...I'm going to get one of those saws...Great video
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
I see why you'd want to use the saw for straight cuts. I still want a plasma cutter though!
Different tools for different tasks... The circular saw is great for straight cuts where you have a bit of room around where you need to make the cut... A plasma cutter will be able to do curved cuts or ones in tight spaces... And when the power goes out or you're somewhere that there is no electrical power, it's nice to have an oxy-fuel cutting torch... :)
Appreciate the video! I’ve been thinking about buying that metal cutting saw but wasn’t sure if it was worth it. Looks like it definitely is. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Mountain Man I’d love to hear how that works! I thought maybe a skillsaw might rotate too fast but guess you never know until you try! 👍
I already own the Evolution S380cps chopsaw and absolutely love the damn saw and now I think I'll be adding this circular saw to my steel cutting arsenal..
They are so much better than abrasive chop saws. I have the s380cps and it's their best saw yet.
I have done a lot of frame cutting with a dewalt jigsaw. It beats the hell out of cut off wheels. It is not too loud, doesnt tear through consumable wheels every 20 minutes, doesn't throw a shower of sparks, doesn't set random fires around the shop and I use a blade for a long time before replacing it. I used it to cut rust out of a frame. All I had to do is drill 2 holes and cut away from the holes at 90 degree angles to remove a rectangle. It would be hard to do this with a circular saw. The jigsaw is so much cheaper than any other option.
I'm going yo have to pick me up one of those S85.
I like to run a retractable power cord outside and then do all my cuts , grinding and sanding outdoors that way there's less cleanup and the wind blows the dust away.
I like your tool box setup how it's configured like a L with the table on one side
Thanks and thumbs up
Great info. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the comparison. Interesting video. Looking into getting a plasma cutter now myself. However with the relatively low use case scenario I have, I couldn't justify that cost. So perhaps a cheaper model. I have a chop saw but it is limited obviously WRT dimension. A metal cutting circular saw is a great idea that I need to investigate.
Thanks for the video. I think both have their place, saw for speed, plasma for cutting shapes and tight corners, but i will use your link to get the saw, to date ive used a band saw for tube and jig saw for sheet. I have a plasma cutter but trip the breaker with it so doesnt get used much. a circular saw would help me loads and dont want to destroy my Mikita wood circular saw trying a carbide blade in it lol
It is important to adjust the depth of cut. This will help the blade last longer, as well as be safer cutting, less likely to bind. Just like cutting through wood, you don’t want or need to have the saw at its deepest setting. This is one reason why there is an adjustment.
I own two 14” chop saw style and a 7 1/4” handheld, and regularly use these saws - they are fantastic. I also own a plasma cutter and multiple torch sets in order to use the best tool for any job.
Thank you for your videos, I watch, comment and enjoy them regularly.
Actually it's the opposite with steel cutting. You want the blade at full depth as it is making a smaller cut. Take 1/2" plate: At 90 degrees to the material you're cutting through 1/2 thick material. If you raised the blade to protrude say 1/8" underneath the blade is cutting at an angle and now cutting through 1-1/2 material. This overheats the blade/tool and reduces the life dramatically.
Say you're cutting on a chop saw some 4" x 1/2" flat bar. You'd stand it up on edge so the blade takes 1/2" cut all the way through. 1/4" wall square tubing it's recommended to cut as a diamond with the clamp adapters.
I understand what you are saying, and the chop saw stuff is absolutely correct, but I disagree with your statement about the handheld. In fact, many times I use the handheld to score a piece of flatstock so that I can bend it, then reweld at the desired angle, since I don't have a brake capable of bending anything greater than sheet metal. Also, you don't need to adjust it exactly like you would cutting wood. By leaving the depth adjusted all the way up, you are causing the entire blade to have to go through the cut. This causes more heat to build up on the blade as it passes through the cut. The body of the blade is not so much thinner than the tip as to not have some contact passing through the cut. If you don't believe me, look at your blade. I guarantee the paint/writing on the blade is scraped off to some degree, if not completely. By making the entire blade pass through the cut it collects more heat in the blade and doesn't allow the heat to dissipate as well.
That's it, I said my piece. Agree or disagree. I have collected much knowledge from your channel, and hope to do the same in the future. My post was not meant to argue, but to hopefully share knowledge. Take care.
I like to hear that some guys are still using the cutting torch. I have my torch on oxy/propane. Goes where there are no lectrics🌞
I am going to try a carbide metal wheel on the angle grinder, and one of my old circular saws. THANKS!
I was also looking at a small second hand Craftsman band saw... $50 CAD
Can't beat the Oxy torch.
I was skepticle of a 20 volt circular saw. But I have several B&D 20 volt batteries and the drill Works great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . I saw the 4 stars and some glowing reviews so decided to purchase this saw. Well, leave your money in your pocket and run a cord because this little saw won't cut
Nice technique! That's some impressive saw work
Thanks 👍
I have a PowerMax 45 plasma cutter. I normally use the plasma cutter for most projects. If I have something that just needs one small cut then I will use the metal cutting circular saw.
I fought internally forever whether to get the 45xp or 30xp. I finally decided the 30xp would suffice and have had 2 times where I needed more capacity.
Very cool saw I have to try one of those. Great dog you have my dog used to love to do that.
She's been a great dog.
Great video and comparison, thanks, Moe!
Ginger is on that water stream, lol!
Hey Thanks.
Always the video I’m looking for thanks !
Hey Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Andrew Camarata has used the circular saw on thick steel. Leaves a great clean edge.
Great demonstration Moe. I use a regular circular saw with an evolution blade in it for this kind of cutting. As you said it is clean and quick.
You might want to check your saw and blade. All the Evolution blades I have seen are designed to turn at a lower maximum RPM than regular circular saws and can be hazardous if used in them. Diablo has come out with blades which can operate at the higher RPM of regular circular saws.
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Good point. This particular blade is rated up to around 5800rpm though the saw only spins around 3500rpm. So technically it should be fine in most Skilsaws. I do notice though, the dedicated metal tools are "geared down lower" to supply more torque vs a wood cutting tool that is more about speed. Their other blades like the 14" for the chop saw would be ran way to fast if put on an abrasive saw. Diablo blades work great as well, they just seam a little thinner and cheaper made (personal opinion with nothing to back it). The Evolution blades are all made in Japan and I think the Diablo in Italy. Both good countries to buy quality tools from vs China.
Thanks for demoing that circle saw. I am impressed by how well it cut. Unfortunately I furnished my home metal fab shop before the metal cutting cold saws became available. So I use a Well Saw brand horizontal bandsaw that will cut through up to a 12 cross-section for cross cuts . I like that it has a vice and fluid cooling. Work comes out square and cold and chips are contained. For portability and non-straight cuts I have a 60 amp ESAB plasma cutter. Honestly, your torch is a lightweight and shouldn’t be expected to handle more that 1/4” material. My 60 amp torch can tackle 1/2” but it requires a 50amp 240v power source. I have used it on a 30amp 240v portable generator. Just can’t crank it up past around 30-35 amps output. I bought a consumable kit with the torch but haven’t had to replace the tip yet (It’s 10 years old). So consumables have cost me nothing so far. I did install a desiccant filter on the whip air hose coming into the unit and my shop air goes through 3 filters and a lot of iron pipe before I use it so it’s pretty dry. What I’m saying is that the commercial quality plasma torches don’t eat up consumables if you’re careful with them and use dry air and don’t drag cut with them at over 30amps output.
You'd be surprised what technology has brought to the plasma cutters in the past 10 years or even 5years. I've owned a handful over the past 15years and you can't judge them by amps as much anymore. This 30amp is rated for a clean cut at 1/2" and I can severe up to 7/8-1". It can run commercially all day and it's bigger brother the 45amp can cut 7/8" super clean, severe up to almost 1.5". I had late 90's SnapOn that was pushing 60amps and it could barely cut 1/4". I also had a Chinese 20amp machine that could maybe cut 1/8" on a hot day. I played around with a Chinese 50amp a year ago and it couldn't cut much more than 3/8" and you had to crawl.
If you drag cut them, just do it at a slight angle.
Had no idea those saws existed....... Thanks!
I have an Evo chop saw and it's great. That saw of yours is downright amazing for the examples in the video. Though I'm pretty sure no one buys a 30XP to cut 1/4 and 1/2. They're really considered sheet metal cutters. I'm pretty sure my PM65 would keep up with the circular saw in the cuts in this video. Edge quality still wouldn't be as nice though. I'll have to grab one of those and check it out. I mostly cut 14ga at 45A with it. It does that at over 300ipm. I doubt I could track the saw that quickly and keep it straight.
I've used the 65 and 45 and think the 65 could match the cutting speed of the saw but any speed would be 1/2-1/4 with the cleanup time. I think you underestimate the 30xp though. I think it does 1/4" at around 50-60ipm and sheet metal faster that you would ever go free hand at probably close to 150+ipm. The XP models blow away the old none by over 50% larger/faster capacity. So a 30xp will cut as good as an old 45.
Who would have thought.....great information.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
The fact that you can get your plasma cutter in very small spaces is a huge plus.
Yes it is.
I would like to see a table saw version
The only way to make a table saw more scary is to have it throw metal guillotines at you.
I just bought a Plasma cutter and got it today. Have not yet had time to open the box. Your video makes a fool out of the Plasma cutter. However I think the Plasma cutter is more versatile as one can cut circles out in steel or patterns where I do not think you will be doing that with the circular saw. Great video.
I have gotten to the point where I will really try to figure out a different way to cut steel rather than use the abrasive wheels, they are dirty, slow, noisy and a little bit sketchy. I have the Evo chop saw but it's no good for long straight cuts. I use oxy/acetylene (old school plasma cutter) but the radial saw looks way better. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
I've used the Diablo Cermet blade that cute through stainless steel as well. One blade cutting ferrous and non ferrous metals on one blade
Thank you for the review. Liked,shared. All my best.
Much appreciated!
Wow thats a hard choice but for me I love my plasma cutter , just depends on what your using it for . Most start off in fabrication with the basic cutters but end up with a plasma cutter if they can.
I wouldn't trade my plasma cutter for anything. The versatility of getting into tight spots and cutting radius is amazing. However, every-time I cut sheet I'm dissapointed in my plasma cutter's speed and cut quality. However if I already have the plasma cutter set up on a job I probably wouldn't go out of my way to pull the saw out for an 8" straight cut.
Good comparison video.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Great video! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
That was good information, Thanks. The dog is cool too.
Thanks for watching!
your video is impressive but i have a cut55ds plasma cutter by yeswelder and with the settings right for the thickness of the metal i can cut way faster than your video shows and there is next to no mess when i am done. That said i did enjoy your video it was well done. thank you for taking the time to do it.
You've reinforced my decision buying a circular metal cutting saw made here in good old Ohio.
How about a link to the source? From a fellow Ohioan who also likes to buy home grown.
I was buying expensive consumables for my plasma cutters for years, but I found that the ones on Amazon for 50 cents a pop work just as good and last just as long. My go to plasma has been a prime weld 60 cut for a number of years now, it was so nice that I sold my other 2 lincoln plasmas and the nice thing is it only costed about $650 and it is cnc compatible if your into that.
I've used cheap consumables on a Chinese Harbor Freight plasma cutter I had for years. They burnt out all the time, but they were around $2 a set if I ordered from China; so no big deal. The Hypertherm just seams to keep going and going with it's oem consumables that are around $15-20 a set. Consumables easily last 10+ times what the consumables did on the Harbor Freight unit and one of the main reasons I bought it.
@@sixtyfiveford I see... Ya I've never had good luck with anything plasma cutter related from HF but I can see where yr comming from
As per usual, another quality video. Thank you very much 🥰👍
Thank you too!
Pretty cool blade
Good video, I like the idea of this to cut metal instead of the old, hard way with hack saws or reciprocating saws or other things.
Do you think you could put one of these larger blades into an older harbor freight chop saw so it cuts faster?
Thank you.
The Abrasive saws spin too fast for the carbide blades to handle.
Great demo 👍 you still need the plasma cutter for circular cuts .
I'm going to be looking for a saw and blade tho .
👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Evolution winner, by a long shot. My cheap Chinese plasma cutter sucks. Its broken right now. But just a diablo steel demon blade $30 and a standard circular saw is
all you need. Great comparison!
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome saw and great cut quality! I noticed the blade spins backwards from a conventional circular saw. Does this help with the cut quality or help to hold the saw down to the workpiece?
It spins the same way as a conventional circular saw. Looking at the blade side it spins counter clockwise. It must have been the video frame rate making it look like it spins backwards.
Radius cuts notwithstanding, I agree. The saw is way more intuitive to use.
Thanks for the video..it confirms (to me) what I've felt for some time now..which is I don't need the plasma cutter.
Great point!
Why? You can't cut holes or radius cuts with eh evolution... but you hobbyist don't know shit anyways
Good stuff those steel demon saws are nice
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Great info. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Great vid thanks 🤠👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice demonstration. Makes me want to cut some metal just because. 😜
I just got a new Milwaukee 3" cutoff tool today and was cutting stuff for no reason other than to cut stuff. I just need to make sure I don't cut stuff I need later.
@@sixtyfiveford 🤣😁🤣 I feel you.
great vid and great gen lee sticker
Thanks 👍
cant wait for mine to arrive, im kinda afraid of the cutoff wheels with angle grinder
Looks almost like the chips you get from a band saw. Thanx I was wondering if those worked.
I'm impressed by it.
Great review.
Most metal cutting blades are rated for lower rpm saws. Diablo Cermet blades, metal demon, can handle higher rpm saws like most of us have. I bought a 7 1/4" blade for around $35 at the Depot and it cuts beyond belief. Even used it in my chopsaw with a modified table and fence. These blades are some type of ceramic and are absolutely amazing. Just be sure to verify saws rpm and that on the blade before using.
Great point! One other thing to note is the dedicated metal cutting saws have upgraded, higher precision bearings that take out any vibrations so you don't destroy the saw or the carbide teeth on the saw blades. Diablo makes some great blades. On a side note I destroyed a wood cutting Chop Saw and a circular saw using abrasive blades made for them by the aftermarket. The Chop Saw lasted around 4 cuts and the circular saw made it 2. Their motors aren't up to the heavy task nor are they shielded good enough to not allow metal chips all over inside.
Ok, agreed on most circular saws. I should stated that I was talking about a worm drive skilsaw. For over 40 yrs. I've used these saws to cut everything from concrete, drywall, metal, roofing, and even wood.....( Carpenter 40+ years ). These saws have never given me a problem ever, hell, most every one went to flight school more than once too. Blades and rarely brushes are all I've ever replaced. Never a bearing. Believe me, I've abused these saws plenty. Enough said.
Perhaps some of the sidewinder circular saws are more prone to what you mentioned. Someday I'd love to own a task specific metal saw but first, the Skilsaw's gonna have to quit.
I tend to leave my power tools to the task they were designed for. Mitre saw or circular saw for wood and shallow concrete cuts. Band saw or dedicated chop saw for straight metal cuts like metal stud framing. I did a job where the exterior of a diner was almost all stainless steel. A plasma cutter was indespensible for that task. A jigsaw with a metal cutting blade would have just boogered up the material. I use corded tools for repetitive cuts and cordless where accessibility is a factor like roof work. I find this methodology extends the life of the tools e.g. batteries.
I need that saw. I have a plasma cutter and don't use it that much because of the consumables. And I find myself cutting straight cuts more than anything where a plasma cutter would shine.
I hate wearing out consumables. I use them way past their rated life that's why I bite the bullet and bought extra when I bought my plasma cutter. The high price sting wasn't as bad compared to how much the cutter was. I did buy Chinese consumables for my last plasma cutter(Harbor Freight Brand) and they sucked.
Bought a Diablo blade from the Depot. Put it in my old worm drive Skilsaw. I was impressed at how quickly it cut.
I wonder if a regular circular saw would work
@@MyDIYAdventures too fast. it will burn up the blade quickly
TheKajunkat I thought the metal saws were a slower RPM...thanks for confirming!
The Diablo and Evolution blades will work on a wood circular saw as long as they are under 5800rpm. However, metal cutting circular saws run at a gear down 3700rpm( way more torque) to handle the increased load. This also allows the blade to run cooler/last longer. The metal cutting saws also have full shielding/guards to keep the hot metal chips from hitting you (they hurt).
@@sixtyfiveford I looked at my saw and it says 4400 RPM on the motor. Just perfect for me. I wear a heavy apron when I use it because it does kick out some nasty little bits.
I’m thinking about a plasma cutter just because of the versatility of it. Not sure if my compressor is big enough though. Helping my daughter restore her ‘68 Beetle and think it’d be handy for cutting out the rusty panels. Might have to get both at some point. 👍🏻
Plasma cutter is the way to go for cutting out rusty panels. A 20-30gallon compressor is adequate or you can buy plasma cutters with a compressor built in. If you have 240volt access, go that route as you can cut nearly anything.
@@sixtyfiveford thanks! I appreciate the input!
I used a $30 walmart 7 1/2" saw and one harbor freight 7 1/2" abrasive disc to cut a 1/4" thick 250 gallon propane tank in half. Cheap, effective, and a straight clean cut.
Been there and it worked.
Does anyone else besides me just click thumbs up asap whenever homeboy posts a video???
Of COURSE! Doesn't everybody?
I do, first thing. Many years and Moe never disappointed. I'm greatful for the great content. I also want to make sure I don't get caught up and forget.
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Awesome Review thank you 👍🇺🇲 The Vermonter
Thanks for watching!
wow.thanks for sharing this.i wondered about those blades. now i know. just a quick question is the saw a special one or could you use a wood power saw with that blade? revolution speed different?
You can actually use these blades in a regular circular saw. The blades are rated to 5800rpm. They will throw hot metal chips everywhere but they work good.
@@sixtyfiveford cheers mate.thanks for reply
If you set the depth of cut on the saw to 2-3 teeth deeper than the material it’s faster and doesn’t wear out the blade as fast. Also 40-60 tooth wood finish blades work great on aluminum and steel.
I would say the bonus of the plasma is being able to do circles and shapes. I have the circular saw and the chop saw, but I still kinda wish I had a plasma for holes and such.
Being able to cut any direction is invaluable. It's just an expensive tool for the average DIY shop. Though not as fancy and price varying wildly depending on region, I think I highly overlooked tool is the oxy/acetylene torch that can cut nearly as fast, weld, heat, melt and allow effortless bending of metal.
Great comparison!!! I’ve often wondered the differences and this was great!!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Good stuff..
What are your thoughts about using this to cut out window holes in a shipping container? Would I need to cut a starter hole with a grinder or can you pull back the shield and drop in the first cut?
You can plunge it in like a regular circular saw. You have to keep a firm grip but it works fine.