Brayflox at least had a tank-specific set... but I remember this all too clearly. I was originally playing through ARR as a white mage, and Brayflox was such a wall at the time that I actually went back, leveled up black mage, and swapped main jobs over to that, playing as a caster for the rest of the expansion. I still get nervous trying to heal anything to this day because I don't think I'm up to it after failing so much to just get my story clear of Brayflox.
Yes. But if I remember correctly when you went to the suggested gear button I think it prioritized that tank/dragoon gear over the tank gear. I could be remembering wrong though.
@@KumiChan2004it still does this today with ARR gear sometimes. I _think_ the recommended button looks at _only_ Vitality for tanks. That's why we keep saying to sprouts that they should ignore that button until they hit level 50.
Happy didn't mention it but Sword Oath & Shield Oath were GCDs up until stormblood. So if you had to swap in the middle of a fight, say goodbye to ur gcd
Honestly I could see them upgrading Shield Bash with a trait that turns it into Shield Swipe again after blocking. It becoming a OGCD with a short window to utilize before falling off after a block. Especially with them removing the guaranteed blocking from Shelton in favor of a general defense buff in 6.3, so Blocking is an occurrence now rather than something you can trigger manually so that would balance it out. Give it a potency like Riot Blade'a combo potency and make it auto-trigger the new Divine Might effect and that would be a nice ability giving PLDs more flexibility and the ability to skip to their strongest non-requistcat window GCD without doing their combo
@@HyouVizer TBH, a full video just about the changes is obviously coming so not muddying that with the retrospective is probably the better plan. Also another video so more content/views/engagement/etc. so better business plan.
Brayflox without a proper tank stance on PLD could be very rough, especially if the dps spread their attention. Back in the day, it was common for tanks to mark their primary target with a 1, some even would number the entire pack.
I remember struggling with old paladin and being told that on trash pulls all you did was spam flash and riot blade so you could flash more. It worked, but it was not fun. although part of me kinda wishes they would bring flash back in some fashion.
@@oshaapproved7612 That's the way I leveled and played PLD in ARR and HW. Riot Blade was an incomplete combo (no -3), but generated sufficient MP to keep the Flash spam going. It was crude, but effective for AOE tanking.
@@oshaapproved7612 Flash being an aggro tool is one of those FFXI carryover things like spirits within high HP damage. In FFXI, flash was a paladin(and whm!) spell that massively increased enmity. In endgame, when it was better to have ninja subjob for utsusemi blink stacks to mitigate damage, you needed to flash on cooldown since you didn't have warrior sub job for provoke. So I think they kept it around for as long as they did just because of that old feeling, since flash was such a big part of what Paladins did in FFXI.
Weirdly you say the most accurate way to see about old jobs is the way back machine but actual the best way is to look through your old videos as they are always top notch.
I recall using Stoneskin all the time in coils, it was a 1 free hit mitigation per cast and had no cd, was the perfect way to use my mana and save my healers mana, also tank and healer damage were not that important in ARR so mitigation was our real and only job. HW punished us with a 30 sec cooldown on what was basicly the new Stoneskin named Sheltron for Paladin. Btw I believe Mr. Happy didn't mention but "Divine Veil" couldn´t be self proc by PLD clemency, it was fixed later in HW and added line "by self or party member ", so it says unchanged in SB but you can compare and notice that its not the same by 4.0. No PLD was prepared to face the magical dmg reign, I had no idea I was taking so much dmg because of being a physical dmg tank. The fortress tank that took down Bahamut was discarded and abandoned, I would not change to a new job where I had no exp tanking, so I fell with PLD and my days in XIV were shorten until SB.
Paladin has always gotten the short stick, especially in HW. Virtually every patch buffed PLD but never hit the main problems. Which always let me know how SE patches their classes. Ninja was the biggest and fastest they ever fixed a class on a scale that actually mattered. PLD could have had the ability to block magic whenever they wanted and waited an entire expansion to do it. But PLD proved one thing over all: Defensives are better than damage. Cover removed mechanics or changed the way the fight worked, but have a defensive buff over that was what really made it almost required. Doing Kefka if you remember a chinese team beat him the fastest by using sheilds mainly. Being a tanky tank gives more DPS to the team than bein a DPS tank. Ive always wanted them to go this route, being this unstoppable wall, but Stormblood proved it would destroy the game. Very interesting times.
Damage was always king. Nobody cares about HP as long as its above 1. Cover was a problem because it was a gamebreaking gimmick that could not be balanced properly. But in general, Damage has always been the most important metric in this game.
Fun story about cover.... and not sure if it still works like this. If the paladin is covering someone and an attack goes out that knocks everyone back AND the paladin didn't have knockback immunity up, the paladin gets launched twice as far while the person they're covering stays put. We had this happen early on in Stormblood in the fight against Shinryu. If I recall correctly, bard didn't get knockback immunity back then, so our paladin covered our bard for the knockback attack, but their own arm's length didn't go off in time, so the paladin got punted so far out of the arena they broke their game for a bit. Also worth noting when you went over the cross-class skills, paladin didn't have the trait for protect either, so if the paladin cast it, it only reduced physical damage, and not magical. Same thing actually applied to scholar back then. Only white mage casting protect would provide the shell effect in addition to protect.
really love the video, as a paladin main since end of shb only, it's nice to see where the job come from, in an ideal world I would like to play all those jobs like they were back in the day, but yeah ^^''
I would love for something like a more polished version of shield swipe to come back because a minor pet peeve of mine is that paladin doesn't use its shield aside from sheltron, so more shield-based actions on the one job that uses shields are always nice.
The problem with Shield Swipe is that it forced you to always want to main Tank. If you weren't tanking then and there, you were losing DPS. So half your parse was you learning how to game the fights to get more blocks to get more DPS if you ever wanted a high end parse
@@Copain88 That's why I said a more polished version. It could, idk, trigger off 'blocking' an attack through cover or intervention, or an rng proc off the aoe combo (situational, I know, but would still be fun), or it could just be some debuff/self buff.
@@stefanfr13 shield toss is a useless skill and passage the most hated mitigation tool in the game for how akward it is to use. So yes, they *are* jokes to most of the playerbase xD
I am SO HAPPY to hear you point out Arms Length's slow effect, I main Gunbreaker and always pop it in a combo with Reprisal and its such a POWERFUL mitigation tool for wall to wall pulls, I can use Aurora and with a barrier/regen on me, that is usually enough to survive trash pulls.
I don't know exactly when in SB I joined but PLD was my first job and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The idea of the stance dancing really intrigued me and it kept me on my toes when playing through dungeons and trials. My friend who got me into the game was even surprised on how well I picked up on that. When I came back from hiatus, did not have any more free time, was out and I was thrown off after seeing all the changes. After a bit I was used to the changes and I'm still a PLD main but I will always miss the old days. Hopefully the upcoming changes aren't bad.
One aspect of PLD's stances that you overlooked a bit was that before shadowbringers, they were the only tank that required a GCD to turn either of their stances on. It also required MP. DRK required a gcd and MP to turn on, but they could turn it off for free on the ogcd. This is part of why it was tough for PLD to MT at times because it would completely change their rotation.
I have a feeling that the reason they removed shield swipe was the same reason DRK's blood price went away: "It caused MT drama". While it was never an issue in dungeons, it becomes a source of contention in raids. The strange thing is that there's an easy solution for this which is to make a dance partner like mechanic for the PLD/DRK where they have the ability to add some passive mitigation (imagine it like a block/parry that gives like a passive 5-10% damage mitigation proccing based on block/parry rate) that would still allow the shield swipe/blood price to proc and get your damage. It could have been a really fun and cool mechanic and with the stormblood era oGCD it would be a nice additional button press every so often in the current more static rotation. Also, Barricade is probably just going to be "increases block rate by 50% while reducing damage by 10% for 20 seconds" on a 90 second cooldown. lol
just to note magic burst didn't decrease to 1000 (or 10% MP) until endwalker. in the past, before the trait, magic used to cost 40% of the MP or 4000 and after the trait, it reduced the cost by half to 2000 MP (or 20% MP). before EW your req burst used all your MP, but after you were left with 5000 MP. do note clemancy stayed at 2000 MP, but as of endwalker it was no longer affected by req aside from the instant cast. stormblood cover also had no mitigation attached till the trait at level 66.
I miss the damage reduction in Cover it was great and made it actually worth gadge also making shout outs to all the fight AIs we totally broke and literally had to get hotfixs... Old cover was based as hell. Also give me shield swipe back cowards
Btw, not sure if it's been mentioned already, but you can still see some of these skills using squadrons. The gladiator class uses ALL the old skills and cooldowns. The marauder does as well but as of typing this, their overpower does no damage (I'm assuming since the actual ability was changed from a cone to a full aoe).
I started in April 2018 as a Gladiator in Stormblood, and played it solid until I got into Heavensward and picked up Machinist because “Buck Duane” is a gunslinger. After 15 years online, not one person has ever recognized the reference to Zane Grey’s “The Lone Star Ranger”, but a few people caught onto the joke of me glamouring my Paladin in Anemos gear at least: “Have Sword, Will Travel” instead of “Have Gun, Will Travel”, since I was “Paladin” and a cowboy. Oh boy, 4.0-5.0 era Machinist… that was a doozy I’m sure you will get to eventually… I miss being able to retaliate with my shield after a block, even though it interrupted my combo. It just felt… natural. As it is now, all your shield does is block other than Shield Bash’s stun (which I still utilize very often, especially for instance when fighting Clink and Clank outside of Livia’s boss room in the reworked Castrum dungeon when they both try to cast something, I Shield Bash one then instantly Low Blow the other, and my healer usually appreciates it) and in real life battles, shields were often employed as offensively as defensively to strike opponents, trip them up, or even stab if the shield was designed for it-though, these shields were very rare and often unwieldy from the extra weight, not “every” shield like some very misguided UA-camrs have tried to claim (thank you Shadiversity for straightening it out), so the shields in FFXIV do to me still kind of feel lacking a bit… I say give us back Shield Scrape, but I doubt they would eliminate the combo interrupt and remove Shield Bash’s combo interrupt for that “unbalancing it all”. Goring Blade is losing the DoT? …seriously, what do the devs have against DoTs at Square Enix?
As a warrior main my favorite thing was to be paired with a Paladin on Titan EX they'd cover me for the third Mountain Buster so I didn't have to swap it was great.
@@DEEKPro the trajectory of the spell wasnt gonna hit warrior of light had they kept running. They only stopped cuz that elf called out to them, even then it was gonna hit WoL few feet near them. The elf died for nothing lol...
@@DEEKPro coughs in hollowed ground, but my take how ever is plot holds more weight than logic in that situation (specifically the way im thinking of it)
Scholar's Sacred Soil also has the weird wording of "Creates a designated area in which party members will only suffer 90% of all damage inflicted." I really don't know why they don't keep it the same for all mitigation.
Oh man, so many memories of Paladins not doing their quest jobs back in the day. Get to Stone Vigil and woops, tank doesn't have Shield Oath, so they're getting hit like a truck or literally everyone is tanking something because they couldn't hold aggro. Nightmares.
It looks like in Stormblood, Shield Swipe became and ability, so you could use it ogcd I think. Also, it's kind of sad that Paladin was the featured job for this expansion, but is getting a major rework halfway through.
I love the thought of Shield Swipe coming back--I never played before ShB, but I could see it as a skill that procs after an auto block or after a certain amount of blocks? Just as another damage deal, kinda how you said for Bullwark.
Cover on T13 stopped the Earth Shaker puddles, which helped free up a lot of room and improve DPS since the melee or casters didn't have to move. I feel like Silence was always on Spirits Within since I thought people used it to beat A1 ADS with BRD and PLD alternating. Shield Swipe Pacification was actually pretty powerful as it worked on almost everything even if they were immune to Stun so it could actually interrupt or delay mechanics, but I don't think it worked in raid. My recollection was that WAR was still undervalued until its self-healing was altered and they got more proactive rather than reactive mitigation so people often used double PLD in first coil. I also recall WAR was often the offtank because tank stances all made you do less damage and PLDs could also accidentally pull hate over time as offtank too since they only had an enmity combo. I recall PLD and MNK both using Fracture as long as they expected the fight wasn't too long to run out of TP.
So cover and passage read the way they do because they actually come first in the damage calculations before any other defensive buff on the party members. So when a Boss deals damage the calculation would go: Bossdmg-debuffs>cover/passage>party buffs. This way tou could calculate the dmg eith cover and passage having the priority over other buffs on the party
For flash it had pretty big diminishing returns on the blind debuff. It would blind for like 8 secs the first time, then like 4 sec the next time, then like 2 sec the 3rd time. Then I think mobs became immune to the blind. And someone PLS correct me if wrong, but I think you could overwrite your longer blind debuff with a shorter blind duration if you spammed flash to close together. Meaning youd hit the mob with 8 sec blind, but if u hit flash again right away youd immediately erase your 8 sec blind and get the 4 sec blind duration and so on.
I ended up maining warrior because i found it so hard to hold aggro on paladin between Flash not dealing damage like Overpower and not having tank stance until 40 ultimately made me fully in Warrior Superiority camp.
I started in SHB (I think 5.5) and GLA was my starting job with PLD my main all the way until the end of Endwalker MSQ. It was super rough doing dungeons with NPC healers because of the lack of mitigation. As soon as I finished MSQ I abandoned tanking until 6.1 and picked up GNB.
shield swipe coming back would honestly be really cool. Maybe make it a ogcd that procs off of blocked hits, like monk's forbidden chakra. But then you'd have raiders bitching about maximizing its damage like they do with DRK and TBN giving edge of shadow procs. It would also heavily favor them being main tank, which I think tanks performing equally well whether MT or OT is a good design choice. plus people into optimizing damage seem to not like mitigation and damage being tied together
Biggest thing in EW was the reduction of mp costs for the aoe dps skills. PoM's holy would destroy your mp if you weren't using lucid or thin air along side with it. EW reduced the mp cost to be equal to the single target.
If I had to guess about the original passage of arms wording, it'd be that it didn't stack with other damage reducing effects. I could be entirely wrong though
Sacred soil to this day is the same as passage of arms - it says everyone inside takes 90% of damage inflicted. I think the damage formula treats these somewhat differently to just normal damage reduction
Happy missed it but Shield Swipe became an ogcd during Heavensward, which made it feel a lot less shit to use. Unfortunately this also led to both Dark Knight and Paladin wanting to main tank so they could parry/block attacks to proc Reprisal/Shield Swipe. Also for whatever stupid reason they decided to make Royal Authority combo off of Savage Blade.
Ill say it up front that I feel like my perspective on this may be completely different from most peoples but I feel like my opinion on this is also valid. Im not sure of the changes so i won't doom it yet but Paladin was the one job outside of blue mage, Paladin is the only job that feels like it has some real variety like a battle mage class. I could heal, I could do long ranged magic attacks, do close ranged physical attacks, and do super important shielding moves for my party. Honest to god it kinda feels more like a FFXI Red Mage lol. And in bozja you could get back stoneskin and even raise. It felt so fun to play a variety role in a more modern setting. I love FFXIV for the story and graphics but gameplay to me has kinda felt somewhat worse over time. When I play especially now that everything is much more homogenized I feel like all im doing on every job is just a set button combo, and the real focus is on dodge mechanics. Like there really isnt any difference between attack, magic attack, no enfeebles, and no elemental stuff to think about. Shoot normal attacks aren't even really a thing to think about much anymore outside of the arbitrarily hardest content in the game. At times to me it just feel like a dodge simulator more than real combat. Paladin was the one job that really gave me that variety of gameplay that I looked for in FFXIV. If they nerf it or just homogenize it more i'm gonna be super bummed. I mean at this rate im also curious as to whether or not they are gonna start homogenizing button presses like they have in PVP so you wont even have to switch crossbars.
You're using the way back machine, so I would guess that the reason the icons are missing was due to not having the resources when the info was posted. As you know, being first is priority. The passage of arms 85 % is probably an algorithm thing that makes it interact with shielding or mitigating a different way I would guess.
i would've loved it if paladin was a sword and staff class, with how they made it it just seems like how it should be. All skills could remain intact if it was a staff too.
I kind of like how strict PLD is currently, its a shame that the game's design has moved in such a way that everything has to conform to the same flow, really hope they scarp that for 7.0. I feel like there should be value in both consistent high damage and explosive burst windows, but they have just been going all in on the latter.
@@ich3730 Those random values can be presented as % like in other games, and useless stats like tenacity can affect that, giving even more player choice in gear/materia selection. The concept is pretty common in other games
Weren't most TBs in HW phys? All of warring triad (although I guess Zurvan's was both phys and mag), 3/4ths of Creator, something like 1/2-3/5ths of the rest of Alexander (give or take). I mean, still no excuse for the rest, of course.
This is something id love. A "glam" for our spells could be awesome, and even open up mog station options for the greedy higher ups, but at elast in a non-predatory way
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 Pls no. This has been available through modding for years. I dont want SE to make money with something the community did for themselves for years
I always read the Passage of Arms skill as similar to the healer “bubble skills” (edit: SCH Sacred Soil i guess is the only one that’s a shield as part of the bubble, WHM and AST bubbles are just pretty regens and heal buffs… not a healer at all here😅) When you’re in my fart cloud, you take less incoming raidwide damage, AND dots didn’t hit as hard either.
AST bubble (Collective Unconscious) is a defense. WHM bubble (Asylum) isn't, it's just a (rather powerful) party HoT that also increases healing of people inside it. I think the HoT actually benefits from this (not 100% sure, though), which may be part of the reason it's so potent of a heal. WHM has no defensives other than wings (Temperance) and the single target one we got in EW (Aquaveil)
@@SubduedRadical what about Divine Benison tho? that's been around since Stormblood i thought (and the only shield i knew of WHM having for forever, cuz i usually think it says "Divine Venison" and would laugh at the thought of a healer throwing a chunk of fried deer steak at my character and it being a shield 😆) anywho, point of the post is "I think passage of arms also mitigates ongoing DoT damage - at the expense of the PLD not being able to do anything else while it's up" and the only other skill that reads similarly is the SCH's Soil
@@gdub1693 Divine Benison isn't a damage reduction. It's like if you took the shield part of Adlo and made it an oGCD with no heal and with a 30 second CD. It's a 500 (I think) potency shield. That is, it's not a "reduces damage by 10/15%", it's a "shield for 500 potency worth of damage". WHM didn't have any damage reduction ability (at all) until Temperance in ShB, and then in EW got Aquaveil (reduces a party member damage taken by 15% for 8 seconds) on a 60 sec CD. Aquaveil is basically if you could cast Rampart (though slightly weaker) on someone else. Temperance is AOE (all party members within 30 yards) take 10% less damage (it also boosts the WHM's healing potency by 20%) for 20 sec with a 120 sec CD. Since I'm looking at my abilities right now: Divine Benison "Creates a barrier around self or target party member that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 500 potency. Duration: 15s Maximum Charges: 2" with a 30 sec CD. So yeah, it's a barrier (the only one WHM has) but not a damage reduction bubble. So...I guess it depends on what you mean by "bubble skills", but when you said Sacred Soil instead of Adlo/Succor, I was assuming you meant "damage reduction"? . In EW, every healer got a single party member damage reduction (except SCH, oddly, but it has a bunch of party-wide ones and its single target one, Protraction, is like a castable Thrill of Battle, I think it is; increases target's max HP by 10%, healing recovered by 10%, and gives them a heal for 10% of their max health, so SCH can use this and then Adlo to make some big fat barriers) and I think they all have 2 or more party barriers, with the exception of WHM which only has 1, Temperance. It's one of the reasons I feel like Plenary Indulgence should have a damage reduction (like 5% or something) added to it. But it's not like anyone listens to me. : ) EDIT: Actually, I say that, AST may only have 1 also, but they have 2-3 party barrier things so they can shield damage that way somewhat. WHM only has the single target Benisons.
WHM old PvP skill Sacred Prism used weird wording too. “Envelops a designated area in a veil of succor, healing any who enter and nullifying 30% of physical damage.”
I’ve been playing as much pld as I can across all content to really get a feel for what they’re doing to it You don’t get any healing until 58 in clemency, all other tanks have a heal in their combos as well as some other ogcd, will we get a combo heal finally? You don’t get any offensive spells until Holy Spirit at 64 so is this divine might thing gonna be completely void until then? If goring blade and blade of valor are losing their dots, why do we still have the combo ender and our blade combo after confiteor, what will they do? Is atonement still a thing or are we replacing atonement with free holy spirits after royal authority? Will we also get divine might after prominence for holy circle or is it purely from royal authority?
I don't understand what PLD mains want. They say they hate the 2 minute burst and love the jank spreadsheet rotation, but the jank spreadsheet rotation is a direct result of the 2 minute burst. Without that 2 minute burst the rotation changes into an easy, perfectly consistent rotation that flows into itself without any need for adjustment. But they don't want that, because that's how other jobs work? But that's exactly what the job would be without the 2 minute burst? RIP to those guys but I hope they just design the job the way it was originally intended and give it a consistent rotation. I'm sure Square will fuck up some other job at some point so people who like garbage design can have something else to play.
The lack of a tank stance until level 40 was TERRIBLE. I remember just having an awful time leveling PLD back then. I distinctly remembering the leveling process as being a drag due to not being able to hold agro in dungeon runs against large groups without running out of MP from spamming flash...
I am still of the opinion that HW paladin was the closest a job in FFXIV has ever been to not being viable. Everything was so stacked against it. Their kit was fundamentally bad compaired to WAR and DRK.
@@YUXKE yeah true 2.0 WAR was on another level. But that was also when the game was totally new and they fixed it rather quickly. PLD stayed in its sorry state for two entire years even with another two years worth of experience on the devs part.
I was just utterly bored by the ARR PLD 123123 combo. Was why WAR became my tank pick to play, and my main job come HW. And now it hurts that WAR is the simpler job.
Personally, i kind of wished they would bring back stance swapping. Maybe my giving Paladin a "magic" stance, dedicated to using their spells, then swapping back to their normal stance. Magic could either be focused on burst damage or recovery in between, and the other stance does the other thing.
re: physical raidwides, I'm still lowkey salty about how many Dark Missionary uses I wasted in P1S before I realized that Warder's Wrath was phys damage I have no actual right to complain because Dark Mind was absolutely busted OTing P3S & is even more busted MTing the P8S door boss, but I'm a DRK main and angst is what we do, so,
No, it was an attack skill that can only be used after a successful block and applied Pacification on the target (Cannot use any skills, well in PVP anyways).
Oh shit Happy ,I think you forgot the biggest issue with Hallowed Ground in 2.x and early Heavensward kills didn't reset on group wipe so your strat need an early Hallowed and it was miss clicked or Y'all failed and wiped the group was waiting to Hallowed to pull again and a issue still where it used there is a brief period where it uses to but you are not yet invincible so you could die and just lose the skill
before holy shelltron I always HATED shelltron. It felt like such a nothing cooldown. it felt like a gauge spender for the sake of spending gauge. it felt so weak for an ability that lasted like, one and a half round of auto attacks...
Mr happy I'm actually a paladin Main and will be looking into what they do to my precious Paladin in the next update on my channel I'm hoping it won't change much but here's hoping
I hope you mean one then the other than the other. Paring defensives can be okay, but Invulns (especially true invulns, which PLD and GNB are; once activated, they take zero damage vs WAR and DRK where they take damage they just can't be brought below 1 HP) should always be used alone, otherwise you're wasting the effect of the other mitigations on a time you are immune to damage.
Started as a GLA in 5.2 all the way up through 6.28. Sadly 6.3's nerfs were too much for me to want to keep playing. The job isn't even comparable anymore and way more boring.
The double trouble of sword oath being the only stance available and the low-defense shared gear with dragoon made brayflox paladins literal paper.
Brayflox at least had a tank-specific set... but I remember this all too clearly. I was originally playing through ARR as a white mage, and Brayflox was such a wall at the time that I actually went back, leveled up black mage, and swapped main jobs over to that, playing as a caster for the rest of the expansion.
I still get nervous trying to heal anything to this day because I don't think I'm up to it after failing so much to just get my story clear of Brayflox.
Yes. But if I remember correctly when you went to the suggested gear button I think it prioritized that tank/dragoon gear over the tank gear. I could be remembering wrong though.
@@KumiChan2004it still does this today with ARR gear sometimes. I _think_ the recommended button looks at _only_ Vitality for tanks. That's why we keep saying to sprouts that they should ignore that button until they hit level 50.
Happy didn't mention it but Sword Oath & Shield Oath were GCDs up until stormblood. So if you had to swap in the middle of a fight, say goodbye to ur gcd
And it broke your combo
@@aer241 This is why some opted to just toggle on or off from shield stance, taking it off didn't cost a gcd iirc. Could be I remember wrong though
Godspeed to all the PLDs that ran Stone Vigil before getting their tank stance. So many nightmares…
Honestly I could see them upgrading Shield Bash with a trait that turns it into Shield Swipe again after blocking.
It becoming a OGCD with a short window to utilize before falling off after a block.
Especially with them removing the guaranteed blocking from Shelton in favor of a general defense buff in 6.3, so Blocking is an occurrence now rather than something you can trigger manually so that would balance it out.
Give it a potency like Riot Blade'a combo potency and make it auto-trigger the new Divine Might effect and that would be a nice ability giving PLDs more flexibility and the ability to skip to their strongest non-requistcat window GCD without doing their combo
I’m honestly surprised you didn’t hold off for the rework in less than a week, but I do love me some Mrhappy content so I’m here for it!
Would have prefer that too honestly
@@HyouVizer TBH, a full video just about the changes is obviously coming so not muddying that with the retrospective is probably the better plan. Also another video so more content/views/engagement/etc. so better business plan.
@@ZenBearV13 I mean it's not like he wouldn't have made a video, he would have just done another job
having started in 5.4 this series has been so much fun to watch thank you for taking the time
Brayflox without a proper tank stance on PLD could be very rough, especially if the dps spread their attention. Back in the day, it was common for tanks to mark their primary target with a 1, some even would number the entire pack.
I remember struggling with old paladin and being told that on trash pulls all you did was spam flash and riot blade so you could flash more. It worked, but it was not fun. although part of me kinda wishes they would bring flash back in some fashion.
Brayflox, un-nerfed-AV, Stone Vigil
Nightmare trio
@@oshaapproved7612 That's the way I leveled and played PLD in ARR and HW. Riot Blade was an incomplete combo (no -3), but generated sufficient MP to keep the Flash spam going. It was crude, but effective for AOE tanking.
Omfg you took me back just now... Cannot believe I forgot we used to do that shit..
@@oshaapproved7612 Flash being an aggro tool is one of those FFXI carryover things like spirits within high HP damage. In FFXI, flash was a paladin(and whm!) spell that massively increased enmity. In endgame, when it was better to have ninja subjob for utsusemi blink stacks to mitigate damage, you needed to flash on cooldown since you didn't have warrior sub job for provoke.
So I think they kept it around for as long as they did just because of that old feeling, since flash was such a big part of what Paladins did in FFXI.
Scholar's Sacred Soil also says "Players only suffer 90% of the damage inflicted", yet Fey Illumination says "Reduces magic damage taken by 5%"
Weirdly you say the most accurate way to see about old jobs is the way back machine but actual the best way is to look through your old videos as they are always top notch.
I recall using Stoneskin all the time in coils, it was a 1 free hit mitigation per cast and had no cd, was the perfect way to use my mana and save my healers mana, also tank and healer damage were not that important in ARR so mitigation was our real and only job. HW punished us with a 30 sec cooldown on what was basicly the new Stoneskin named Sheltron for Paladin. Btw I believe Mr. Happy didn't mention but "Divine Veil" couldn´t be self proc by PLD clemency, it was fixed later in HW and added line "by self or party member ", so it says unchanged in SB but you can compare and notice that its not the same by 4.0. No PLD was prepared to face the magical dmg reign, I had no idea I was taking so much dmg because of being a physical dmg tank. The fortress tank that took down Bahamut was discarded and abandoned, I would not change to a new job where I had no exp tanking, so I fell with PLD and my days in XIV were shorten until SB.
Paladin has always gotten the short stick, especially in HW. Virtually every patch buffed PLD but never hit the main problems. Which always let me know how SE patches their classes. Ninja was the biggest and fastest they ever fixed a class on a scale that actually mattered. PLD could have had the ability to block magic whenever they wanted and waited an entire expansion to do it. But PLD proved one thing over all: Defensives are better than damage. Cover removed mechanics or changed the way the fight worked, but have a defensive buff over that was what really made it almost required. Doing Kefka if you remember a chinese team beat him the fastest by using sheilds mainly. Being a tanky tank gives more DPS to the team than bein a DPS tank. Ive always wanted them to go this route, being this unstoppable wall, but Stormblood proved it would destroy the game. Very interesting times.
Damage was always king. Nobody cares about HP as long as its above 1. Cover was a problem because it was a gamebreaking gimmick that could not be balanced properly. But in general, Damage has always been the most important metric in this game.
Fun story about cover.... and not sure if it still works like this. If the paladin is covering someone and an attack goes out that knocks everyone back AND the paladin didn't have knockback immunity up, the paladin gets launched twice as far while the person they're covering stays put.
We had this happen early on in Stormblood in the fight against Shinryu. If I recall correctly, bard didn't get knockback immunity back then, so our paladin covered our bard for the knockback attack, but their own arm's length didn't go off in time, so the paladin got punted so far out of the arena they broke their game for a bit.
Also worth noting when you went over the cross-class skills, paladin didn't have the trait for protect either, so if the paladin cast it, it only reduced physical damage, and not magical. Same thing actually applied to scholar back then. Only white mage casting protect would provide the shell effect in addition to protect.
Paladins using cover on their Bards/Machinists for Exdeath but forgetting to hit Tempered Will is never not going to bring back smiles.
really love the video, as a paladin main since end of shb only, it's nice to see where the job come from, in an ideal world I would like to play all those jobs like they were back in the day, but yeah ^^''
Thank you for putting so much time and effort into making this video about my favorite job!
SCH's Sacred Soil still describes its effect the same way Passage of Arms described its damage reduction
I would love for something like a more polished version of shield swipe to come back because a minor pet peeve of mine is that paladin doesn't use its shield aside from sheltron, so more shield-based actions on the one job that uses shields are always nice.
The problem with Shield Swipe is that it forced you to always want to main Tank. If you weren't tanking then and there, you were losing DPS. So half your parse was you learning how to game the fights to get more blocks to get more DPS if you ever wanted a high end parse
Shield Toss and Passage of Arms: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@Copain88 That's why I said a more polished version. It could, idk, trigger off 'blocking' an attack through cover or intervention, or an rng proc off the aoe combo (situational, I know, but would still be fun), or it could just be some debuff/self buff.
@@stefanfr13 shield toss is a useless skill and passage the most hated mitigation tool in the game for how akward it is to use. So yes, they *are* jokes to most of the playerbase xD
I am SO HAPPY to hear you point out Arms Length's slow effect, I main Gunbreaker and always pop it in a combo with Reprisal and its such a POWERFUL mitigation tool for wall to wall pulls, I can use Aurora and with a barrier/regen on me, that is usually enough to survive trash pulls.
Shield Stance shall forever be known, in my mind, as... Shield Stance. Even if there is no Sword Stance, it is still Shield Stance
I cannot wait for the SMN video 🥺 oh the memories of the 2.0 SMN
I don't know exactly when in SB I joined but PLD was my first job and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The idea of the stance dancing really intrigued me and it kept me on my toes when playing through dungeons and trials. My friend who got me into the game was even surprised on how well I picked up on that. When I came back from hiatus, did not have any more free time, was out and I was thrown off after seeing all the changes. After a bit I was used to the changes and I'm still a PLD main but I will always miss the old days. Hopefully the upcoming changes aren't bad.
One aspect of PLD's stances that you overlooked a bit was that before shadowbringers, they were the only tank that required a GCD to turn either of their stances on. It also required MP. DRK required a gcd and MP to turn on, but they could turn it off for free on the ogcd. This is part of why it was tough for PLD to MT at times because it would completely change their rotation.
I have a feeling that the reason they removed shield swipe was the same reason DRK's blood price went away: "It caused MT drama". While it was never an issue in dungeons, it becomes a source of contention in raids. The strange thing is that there's an easy solution for this which is to make a dance partner like mechanic for the PLD/DRK where they have the ability to add some passive mitigation (imagine it like a block/parry that gives like a passive 5-10% damage mitigation proccing based on block/parry rate) that would still allow the shield swipe/blood price to proc and get your damage.
It could have been a really fun and cool mechanic and with the stormblood era oGCD it would be a nice additional button press every so often in the current more static rotation.
Also, Barricade is probably just going to be "increases block rate by 50% while reducing damage by 10% for 20 seconds" on a 90 second cooldown. lol
Thank you, Mr. Happy. I miss Stormblood Paladin. Looking forward to the changes.
just to note magic burst didn't decrease to 1000 (or 10% MP) until endwalker.
in the past, before the trait, magic used to cost 40% of the MP or 4000 and after the trait, it reduced the cost by half to 2000 MP (or 20% MP).
before EW your req burst used all your MP, but after you were left with 5000 MP.
do note clemancy stayed at 2000 MP, but as of endwalker it was no longer affected by req aside from the instant cast.
stormblood cover also had no mitigation attached till the trait at level 66.
I miss the damage reduction in Cover it was great and made it actually worth gadge also making shout outs to all the fight AIs we totally broke and literally had to get hotfixs... Old cover was based as hell. Also give me shield swipe back cowards
Btw, not sure if it's been mentioned already, but you can still see some of these skills using squadrons. The gladiator class uses ALL the old skills and cooldowns. The marauder does as well but as of typing this, their overpower does no damage (I'm assuming since the actual ability was changed from a cone to a full aoe).
really appreciate this kind of content, keep it coming :)
I started in April 2018 as a Gladiator in Stormblood, and played it solid until I got into Heavensward and picked up Machinist because “Buck Duane” is a gunslinger. After 15 years online, not one person has ever recognized the reference to Zane Grey’s “The Lone Star Ranger”, but a few people caught onto the joke of me glamouring my Paladin in Anemos gear at least: “Have Sword, Will Travel” instead of “Have Gun, Will Travel”, since I was “Paladin” and a cowboy. Oh boy, 4.0-5.0 era Machinist… that was a doozy I’m sure you will get to eventually… I miss being able to retaliate with my shield after a block, even though it interrupted my combo. It just felt… natural. As it is now, all your shield does is block other than Shield Bash’s stun (which I still utilize very often, especially for instance when fighting Clink and Clank outside of Livia’s boss room in the reworked Castrum dungeon when they both try to cast something, I Shield Bash one then instantly Low Blow the other, and my healer usually appreciates it) and in real life battles, shields were often employed as offensively as defensively to strike opponents, trip them up, or even stab if the shield was designed for it-though, these shields were very rare and often unwieldy from the extra weight, not “every” shield like some very misguided UA-camrs have tried to claim (thank you Shadiversity for straightening it out), so the shields in FFXIV do to me still kind of feel lacking a bit… I say give us back Shield Scrape, but I doubt they would eliminate the combo interrupt and remove Shield Bash’s combo interrupt for that “unbalancing it all”. Goring Blade is losing the DoT? …seriously, what do the devs have against DoTs at Square Enix?
As a warrior main my favorite thing was to be paired with a Paladin on Titan EX they'd cover me for the third Mountain Buster so I didn't have to swap it was great.
18:48 "couldnt not block magic attacks" if they could back then a certain elf would still be alive 💀
That person would still die since it's not intended to be taken by one person alone.
@@DEEKPro the trajectory of the spell wasnt gonna hit warrior of light had they kept running. They only stopped cuz that elf called out to them, even then it was gonna hit WoL few feet near them. The elf died for nothing lol...
@@DEEKPro coughs in hollowed ground, but my take how ever is plot holds more weight than logic in that situation (specifically the way im thinking of it)
@@dianitestar1234 He is not a paladin. As a knight he is more like a gladiator.
Scholar's Sacred Soil also has the weird wording of "Creates a designated area in which party members will only suffer 90% of all damage inflicted." I really don't know why they don't keep it the same for all mitigation.
Oh man, so many memories of Paladins not doing their quest jobs back in the day. Get to Stone Vigil and woops, tank doesn't have Shield Oath, so they're getting hit like a truck or literally everyone is tanking something because they couldn't hold aggro. Nightmares.
It looks like in Stormblood, Shield Swipe became and ability, so you could use it ogcd I think.
Also, it's kind of sad that Paladin was the featured job for this expansion, but is getting a major rework halfway through.
something to note, the potency disparity between Rage of Halone and Goring blade didnt get resolved until Endwalker release.
I love the thought of Shield Swipe coming back--I never played before ShB, but I could see it as a skill that procs after an auto block or after a certain amount of blocks? Just as another damage deal, kinda how you said for Bullwark.
amazing video
Figured you’d wait til 6.3 to do this
Cover on T13 stopped the Earth Shaker puddles, which helped free up a lot of room and improve DPS since the melee or casters didn't have to move. I feel like Silence was always on Spirits Within since I thought people used it to beat A1 ADS with BRD and PLD alternating. Shield Swipe Pacification was actually pretty powerful as it worked on almost everything even if they were immune to Stun so it could actually interrupt or delay mechanics, but I don't think it worked in raid. My recollection was that WAR was still undervalued until its self-healing was altered and they got more proactive rather than reactive mitigation so people often used double PLD in first coil. I also recall WAR was often the offtank because tank stances all made you do less damage and PLDs could also accidentally pull hate over time as offtank too since they only had an enmity combo. I recall PLD and MNK both using Fracture as long as they expected the fight wasn't too long to run out of TP.
Is crazy how divine veil has survived the way it is until the next patch, sooooo dumb, also changing blocking to reducing damage is awesome
So cover and passage read the way they do because they actually come first in the damage calculations before any other defensive buff on the party members. So when a Boss deals damage the calculation would go: Bossdmg-debuffs>cover/passage>party buffs. This way tou could calculate the dmg eith cover and passage having the priority over other buffs on the party
Iirc it's all multiplicative though, so the order doesn't matter.
Little correction, in ShB reprisal was AOE.
Monk also had a silence on Arm of the Destroyer... but that's TP intensive, so you aint gonna remember it lol
no mention of the Pacification in shield swipe, sandess. I swear Shield swipe was an OGCD but i might remember wrong.
For flash it had pretty big diminishing returns on the blind debuff. It would blind for like 8 secs the first time, then like 4 sec the next time, then like 2 sec the 3rd time. Then I think mobs became immune to the blind. And someone PLS correct me if wrong, but I think you could overwrite your longer blind debuff with a shorter blind duration if you spammed flash to close together. Meaning youd hit the mob with 8 sec blind, but if u hit flash again right away youd immediately erase your 8 sec blind and get the 4 sec blind duration and so on.
I ended up maining warrior because i found it so hard to hold aggro on paladin between Flash not dealing damage like Overpower and not having tank stance until 40 ultimately made me fully in Warrior Superiority camp.
I started in SHB (I think 5.5) and GLA was my starting job with PLD my main all the way until the end of Endwalker MSQ. It was super rough doing dungeons with NPC healers because of the lack of mitigation. As soon as I finished MSQ I abandoned tanking until 6.1 and picked up GNB.
Only thing I remember that was annoying about PLD stances when I joined in SB was that swapping stances took a gcd while WARs was oGCD.
Don't remember if it broke combo when you swapped though
@@aer241 It did. It was terrible.
shield swipe coming back would honestly be really cool. Maybe make it a ogcd that procs off of blocked hits, like monk's forbidden chakra. But then you'd have raiders bitching about maximizing its damage like they do with DRK and TBN giving edge of shadow procs. It would also heavily favor them being main tank, which I think tanks performing equally well whether MT or OT is a good design choice.
plus people into optimizing damage seem to not like mitigation and damage being tied together
As a tank main I'm looking forward to the PLD changes. Let's hope it gets better.
I like current pld but i looking forward to being tankier
Biggest thing in EW was the reduction of mp costs for the aoe dps skills.
PoM's holy would destroy your mp if you weren't using lucid or thin air along side with it. EW reduced the mp cost to be equal to the single target.
If I had to guess about the original passage of arms wording, it'd be that it didn't stack with other damage reducing effects. I could be entirely wrong though
One week early before being able to review the new changes lol
Sacred soil to this day is the same as passage of arms - it says everyone inside takes 90% of damage inflicted.
I think the damage formula treats these somewhat differently to just normal damage reduction
Happy missed it but Shield Swipe became an ogcd during Heavensward, which made it feel a lot less shit to use. Unfortunately this also led to both Dark Knight and Paladin wanting to main tank so they could parry/block attacks to proc Reprisal/Shield Swipe.
Also for whatever stupid reason they decided to make Royal Authority combo off of Savage Blade.
At 3:38 You could be remembering XI's Paladin Flash, which did blind a target for a couple seconds.
if you look at 26:34 Flash at least had a blinding effect in SB. (I remember that effect as that's when i started the game).
Ill say it up front that I feel like my perspective on this may be completely different from most peoples but I feel like my opinion on this is also valid.
Im not sure of the changes so i won't doom it yet but Paladin was the one job outside of blue mage, Paladin is the only job that feels like it has some real variety like a battle mage class. I could heal, I could do long ranged magic attacks, do close ranged physical attacks, and do super important shielding moves for my party. Honest to god it kinda feels more like a FFXI Red Mage lol. And in bozja you could get back stoneskin and even raise. It felt so fun to play a variety role in a more modern setting.
I love FFXIV for the story and graphics but gameplay to me has kinda felt somewhat worse over time. When I play especially now that everything is much more homogenized I feel like all im doing on every job is just a set button combo, and the real focus is on dodge mechanics. Like there really isnt any difference between attack, magic attack, no enfeebles, and no elemental stuff to think about. Shoot normal attacks aren't even really a thing to think about much anymore outside of the arbitrarily hardest content in the game. At times to me it just feel like a dodge simulator more than real combat. Paladin was the one job that really gave me that variety of gameplay that I looked for in FFXIV. If they nerf it or just homogenize it more i'm gonna be super bummed.
I mean at this rate im also curious as to whether or not they are gonna start homogenizing button presses like they have in PVP so you wont even have to switch crossbars.
You're using the way back machine, so I would guess that the reason the icons are missing was due to not having the resources when the info was posted. As you know, being first is priority.
The passage of arms 85 % is probably an algorithm thing that makes it interact with shielding or mitigating a different way I would guess.
i would've loved it if paladin was a sword and staff class, with how they made it it just seems like how it should be. All skills could remain intact if it was a staff too.
I like to eternally meme that Paladin used to have Raise (out of combat).
I kind of like how strict PLD is currently, its a shame that the game's design has moved in such a way that everything has to conform to the same flow, really hope they scarp that for 7.0. I feel like there should be value in both consistent high damage and explosive burst windows, but they have just been going all in on the latter.
Oh right, flash! They should give flash to MCH as an OGCD stun.
Wish they included more “on block” and “on parry” abilities to give players a bit more agency in action choice
Block and Parry are still rng props tied to no Stat investment. So you still wouldn't have agency over when you could use them.
@@D-Havoc You’re right, but they already have largely unused stats like tenacity and piety that could be modified to accommodate newer features
Block and parry are literally RANDOM bro xDDD Sure lets give players "more agency" xDDD
@@ich3730 Those random values can be presented as % like in other games, and useless stats like tenacity can affect that, giving even more player choice in gear/materia selection. The concept is pretty common in other games
Weren't most TBs in HW phys? All of warring triad (although I guess Zurvan's was both phys and mag), 3/4ths of Creator, something like 1/2-3/5ths of the rest of Alexander (give or take). I mean, still no excuse for the rest, of course.
I just can't wait to not have to skip atonements or skip holy spirit to go right to confetti....
Fast blade -> Savage -> Rage is so much better than Riot into Royal authority. I wish we could choose to use those animations at higher levels.
This is something id love. A "glam" for our spells could be awesome, and even open up mog station options for the greedy higher ups, but at elast in a non-predatory way
@@hellfrozenphoenix13 Pls no. This has been available through modding for years. I dont want SE to make money with something the community did for themselves for years
Heavensward was peak lol-PLD.
I always read the Passage of Arms skill as similar to the healer “bubble skills”
(edit: SCH Sacred Soil i guess is the only one that’s a shield as part of the bubble, WHM and AST bubbles are just pretty regens and heal buffs… not a healer at all here😅)
When you’re in my fart cloud, you take less incoming raidwide damage, AND dots didn’t hit as hard either.
AST bubble (Collective Unconscious) is a defense. WHM bubble (Asylum) isn't, it's just a (rather powerful) party HoT that also increases healing of people inside it. I think the HoT actually benefits from this (not 100% sure, though), which may be part of the reason it's so potent of a heal.
WHM has no defensives other than wings (Temperance) and the single target one we got in EW (Aquaveil)
@@SubduedRadical what about Divine Benison tho? that's been around since Stormblood i thought (and the only shield i knew of WHM having for forever, cuz i usually think it says "Divine Venison" and would laugh at the thought of a healer throwing a chunk of fried deer steak at my character and it being a shield 😆)
anywho, point of the post is "I think passage of arms also mitigates ongoing DoT damage - at the expense of the PLD not being able to do anything else while it's up" and the only other skill that reads similarly is the SCH's Soil
@@gdub1693 Divine Benison isn't a damage reduction. It's like if you took the shield part of Adlo and made it an oGCD with no heal and with a 30 second CD. It's a 500 (I think) potency shield.
That is, it's not a "reduces damage by 10/15%", it's a "shield for 500 potency worth of damage".
WHM didn't have any damage reduction ability (at all) until Temperance in ShB, and then in EW got Aquaveil (reduces a party member damage taken by 15% for 8 seconds) on a 60 sec CD. Aquaveil is basically if you could cast Rampart (though slightly weaker) on someone else. Temperance is AOE (all party members within 30 yards) take 10% less damage (it also boosts the WHM's healing potency by 20%) for 20 sec with a 120 sec CD.
Since I'm looking at my abilities right now: Divine Benison "Creates a barrier around self or target party member that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 500 potency. Duration: 15s Maximum Charges: 2" with a 30 sec CD. So yeah, it's a barrier (the only one WHM has) but not a damage reduction bubble.
So...I guess it depends on what you mean by "bubble skills", but when you said Sacred Soil instead of Adlo/Succor, I was assuming you meant "damage reduction"?
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In EW, every healer got a single party member damage reduction (except SCH, oddly, but it has a bunch of party-wide ones and its single target one, Protraction, is like a castable Thrill of Battle, I think it is; increases target's max HP by 10%, healing recovered by 10%, and gives them a heal for 10% of their max health, so SCH can use this and then Adlo to make some big fat barriers) and I think they all have 2 or more party barriers, with the exception of WHM which only has 1, Temperance.
It's one of the reasons I feel like Plenary Indulgence should have a damage reduction (like 5% or something) added to it. But it's not like anyone listens to me. : )
EDIT: Actually, I say that, AST may only have 1 also, but they have 2-3 party barrier things so they can shield damage that way somewhat. WHM only has the single target Benisons.
WHM old PvP skill Sacred Prism used weird wording too.
“Envelops a designated area in a veil of succor, healing any who enter and nullifying 30% of physical damage.”
I’ve been playing as much pld as I can across all content to really get a feel for what they’re doing to it
You don’t get any healing until 58 in clemency, all other tanks have a heal in their combos as well as some other ogcd, will we get a combo heal finally?
You don’t get any offensive spells until Holy Spirit at 64 so is this divine might thing gonna be completely void until then?
If goring blade and blade of valor are losing their dots, why do we still have the combo ender and our blade combo after confiteor, what will they do?
Is atonement still a thing or are we replacing atonement with free holy spirits after royal authority?
Will we also get divine might after prominence for holy circle or is it purely from royal authority?
I miss old Sword Oath stance so much T^T
I don't understand what PLD mains want. They say they hate the 2 minute burst and love the jank spreadsheet rotation, but the jank spreadsheet rotation is a direct result of the 2 minute burst. Without that 2 minute burst the rotation changes into an easy, perfectly consistent rotation that flows into itself without any need for adjustment. But they don't want that, because that's how other jobs work? But that's exactly what the job would be without the 2 minute burst?
RIP to those guys but I hope they just design the job the way it was originally intended and give it a consistent rotation. I'm sure Square will fuck up some other job at some point so people who like garbage design can have something else to play.
I FORGOT ABOUT PLD STONESKIN
The lack of a tank stance until level 40 was TERRIBLE. I remember just having an awful time leveling PLD back then. I distinctly remembering the leveling process as being a drag due to not being able to hold agro in dungeon runs against large groups without running out of MP from spamming flash...
The only thing I miss about cross class is having raise on PLD
I mained paladin for 6 years from 2.0-4.5.... I raided gordias and midas with pld ...kinda sad they're changing it but I'm a GNB now.
I am still of the opinion that HW paladin was the closest a job in FFXIV has ever been to not being viable. Everything was so stacked against it. Their kit was fundamentally bad compaired to WAR and DRK.
Yeah…..but then there was 2.0 warrior. A literal non functioning tank
@@YUXKE yeah true 2.0 WAR was on another level. But that was also when the game was totally new and they fixed it rather quickly. PLD stayed in its sorry state for two entire years even with another two years worth of experience on the devs part.
@@YUXKE doesnt really matter if you are non functioning if there is only 2 options for 2 slots to fill lol.
I was just utterly bored by the ARR PLD 123123 combo. Was why WAR became my tank pick to play, and my main job come HW. And now it hurts that WAR is the simpler job.
Youre so chubby and cute! Good video
Personally, i kind of wished they would bring back stance swapping. Maybe my giving Paladin a "magic" stance, dedicated to using their spells, then swapping back to their normal stance. Magic could either be focused on burst damage or recovery in between, and the other stance does the other thing.
Requiescat is magic stance :D
@@reyjusuf right now, yes. I mean post rework, as opposed to the likely "lets simplify it" route.
"The occasional add phase, which we just don't see that much any more."
*looks at Troia*
Looking forward to the changes that are coming as someone who really wants to like pld but i just don’t like current pld
So good to know that SE has always hated PLD. It's great now at 90, still good at 80, sucks every other level. This rework better make it slap.
I really miss when the jobs were more complex
Bring back shield swipe and make it an ogcd 😎
Should’ve just waited a week to release imo, not my channel though so ima shut up xD
re: physical raidwides, I'm still lowkey salty about how many Dark Missionary uses I wasted in P1S before I realized that Warder's Wrath was phys damage
I have no actual right to complain because Dark Mind was absolutely busted OTing P3S & is even more busted MTing the P8S door boss, but I'm a DRK main and angst is what we do, so,
I kinda miss Flash 📸 😂😂
I will watch it later today, but i would have waited to 6.3 release to not have to do another video later.
Why not just wait a single week and have all the info on New Paladin?
So shield swipe was more like tbn or vengeance?
No, it was an attack skill that can only be used after a successful block and applied Pacification on the target (Cannot use any skills, well in PVP anyways).
@@bl00dm0urne wish they brought it back but as an aoe for 1-2 seconds. be almost as OP whm holy
Im surprised you didnt wait until next week. Just doesnt make sense, but thanks anyway
I personally agree. Itd make more sense to do Paladin after the change, and it would emphasize that change is still happening.
Reprisal later became aoe
Oh shit Happy ,I think you forgot the biggest issue with Hallowed Ground in 2.x and early Heavensward kills didn't reset on group wipe so your strat need an early Hallowed and it was miss clicked or Y'all failed and wiped the group was waiting to Hallowed to pull again and a issue still where it used there is a brief period where it uses to but you are not yet invincible so you could die and just lose the skill
Lol since I play on ps4 I don't have shield bash lb or sprint on my hotbars
before holy shelltron I always HATED shelltron. It felt like such a nothing cooldown. it felt like a gauge spender for the sake of spending gauge. it felt so weak for an ability that lasted like, one and a half round of auto attacks...
Mr happy I'm actually a paladin Main and will be looking into what they do to my precious Paladin in the next update on my channel I'm hoping it won't change much but here's hoping
Am I the only one who says Rage of Halone as if the "H" was silent??????
Use Arms Length + Reprisal + invuln if you are going to pull wall to wall
I hope you mean one then the other than the other. Paring defensives can be okay, but Invulns (especially true invulns, which PLD and GNB are; once activated, they take zero damage vs WAR and DRK where they take damage they just can't be brought below 1 HP) should always be used alone, otherwise you're wasting the effect of the other mitigations on a time you are immune to damage.
This is bad advice
i hope you dont mean all at once lol.
i miss 40% sentinel
Tbh we need 2 allowable cross class action in 7.0 tbh watch pld go swift cast raise...
Started as a GLA in 5.2 all the way up through 6.28. Sadly 6.3's nerfs were too much for me to want to keep playing. The job isn't even comparable anymore and way more boring.