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I knew she was the 4.0 GPA right away when she stepped up. Excellent students aren’t usually very social, at least not right away to strangers. Also, her glare after being given 3.8 told me EVERYTHING.
honestly I thought it was too stereotypical for her to be the 4.0, usually they have someone who doesn't fit the common stereotype.
In my experience this is not generally true, because excellent students are also, multi-faceted. So, they kind of have to be social and they become somewhat of social butterflies.
as a person with a 4.0 gpa im not shy at all 😭
This is so dumb. You literally cannot “know” what someone’s GPA is by their body language or how they present themselves. That’s literally the entire point of the video.
sameeee
damn when the asian girl said she wanted to do premed the teacher was like 'oh thats really hard and competitive' when the guy was said the same thing the teacher was soo supportive and excited. How telling.
Yeah the way they said it felt like they were saying she wasn’t good enough without actually knowing anything about her…
yeah there is so much subtle sexism in this video its sad
no there isnt @@thedarkfroggy
@@thedarkfroggy i dont think there is. why would the woman discriminate against her own gender
@@kobalt4083 i dont know but some women do anyways
How could they dismiss the 4.0 girl just because she didn't seem confident? Do they not realize the better students are often the most self-critical because their standards are so high? That the more they learn, the more they realize they have yet to learn? My aunt CRIED after an exam because there were two questions she knew she'd gotten wrong. When scores and rankings were released, it turned out that those were the only questions she got wrong and she was ranked #1 on that exam and in the school. That's what a 4.0 student often is like.
Sigh. Me in a nutshell. It is exhausting. I have gone into depression over sitting an examination and thinking I failed.
@@rockyrae3455Rightt??? I'm kinda like that and I tend to completely exaggerate things. If I commit a mistake and know I did I totally lose my confidence for all the other questions and think I failed the exam completely. 99% of the time it turns out just fine
Yeah well that’s just how it goes. It’s great that she has a 4.0 in high school but the students that are going to stand out over her are going to have the same GPA + social skills.
@@michaellemmen "It’s great that she has a 4.0 in high school but the students that are going to stand out over her are going to have the same GPA + social skills." she doesn't "not have social skills" she just has a more reserved personality *sigh*
This is so me
The subtle glare given by the 4.0 girl when the green shirt teacher judged the more confident boy as the 4.0 for the exact same characeristics she displayed (pre-med, advanced courses) just because he was more outspoken and serious/succint with his answers was very telling.
i would've given a big ass glare tbh, i cant blame her
@@pamelam1101 Well, you also can’t blame the teachers. They are tasked with judging the grades of students they don’t even know. They can only base it off of first impressions.
Outspoken usually lower grade but more successful in future
what time was that?
THIS!
The 1.5 gpa guy was so well-spoken and seemed so academically smart. I really thought his dressing sense would be a red herring.
It is.
They struggled during covid. That's the only reason why their gpa isn't higher.
I know right, my brother does talk like him and he hated school and college ( he dropped out ) but got a job directly because of how he spoke. I always believe that grades don't shape people, if you work hard you will get them if you're not interested you won't
I'm just like him except I didn't have mental health issues. I think that's a Modern Trend. Not having mental health issues but like being outspoken about them like that. Like, if he was in the previous-generation, he probably would have just kind of moved on with his life instead of kind of exploring that Avenue.
So I think it's important to kind of just go about your business instead of like trying so hard. But I guess it's trends.
Anyway yeah I'm just like him. I'm very smart but I had a low GPA. But that's just cuz I didn't do my homework. Because I had other shit to do. Like I have a life to live
@@zzzcocopepeLets not discredit mental health issues. Mental health issues especially ADHD and Depression CAN cause problems for people in school especially with giving them a lack of interest or the mentality that they should "just give up"
@@tacobell1299 That's me in a nutshell. I was in AP classes for a bit and then my ADHD "flared" when I hit my teens - just made my executive function awful, which fueled my depression. I doubt I even got a 1.5 in anything. Ended up doing 5 years of high school, dropped out, and got my GED.
I finally got back on my feet after being diagnosed with ADD and getting the appropriate accommodations, but man, it was a nightmare until then.
Mental health/ND/ADA accomodations/care still needs to come a long way.
That male teacher with the glasses is so wholesome 🥺 whoever has him as a teacher is lucky af
They both have glasses.. 😭
he is my teacher !!!
which one bestie?
@@brigidstaveley2704 that’s cool!! do u like his class?
@@unordinaryo9886 it's obvious which one they were talking about
It saddens me how the math teacher expressed empathy to the skater dude for his mental health struggles but was nothing but critical to the shy student. My heart goes out to her as I was her in high school and was constantly overlooked because of the way I carried myself, which only perpetuated my lack of self confidence. 4.0 girl, if you’re reading this, I see you.
right?! ppl in the comments calling him "sweet" for empathising with the skaters mental health issues but ignoring how his words could affect the shy girls mental health
guys pls stop calling me a skater ive never skated in my life😭
@@zakaidavis-rodriguez6667 was that u??? that was a fire fit tho
Loool 😂 shy girl and skater dude. Forever more will be your names defined by the stereotypes of society 😂
Well he's a white dude... Can't expect him to resonate with an Asian girl's struggle against invisibility.
Asking the Black 3.8 student if he gets that GPA just because or if he works for it and his motivation made me super side-eye that man. Also, confidence and posture have no correlation with grades.
Right. From a SUBSTITUTE teacher
@@dsgbrebel03 lmaooooo-the gall!
Yeah these teachers were sus at hell. They definitely have some unconscious bias they need to work through
I hated all of their limited ass interactions with him. He had the look on, you know the look we have when they speak to us. So I'm glad but sadden that he already knows what's up.
I can't know for sure, but I think it's possible that the question was actually asking something like "Is school easy for you because you are gifted and you could get a 4.0 if you really wanted to but maybe you slack a bit because school has always seeemed easy, or are you average intelligence but put in a lot of effort and hard work to get the 3.8 GPA and if you didn't put in the extra effort then you might have a lower GPA?"
The teacher who offered support seems like an amazing teacher
I would have hugged him 😢
Yes, I do not think that many individuals take up the profession of teaching with the best interest of the students in their hearts; only a morsel of individuals.
Why was a crying when he said that
@@alexandrawhelan6422 because he is an empathetic human being 🤦♂️
W teacher
It was so sad to see all the teachers underestimate the Asian girl, especially since a lot of their reasons like lack of confidence is something a lot of girls struggle with. So happy she could prove them all wrong!
well i mean the way u present urself is a massive part of what other ppl are gna think of u whether u like it or not. idk y u find it that surprising lol
@SomeAsianDude
I agree that it's important to try to present yourself in the best possible light, but sometimes things like gender or race are unfairly considered in a negative way. Girls' skills are often overlooked often enough to cause a blow to confidence. I'm not surprised, I'm disappointed.
@@andrearace1168 Except for the fact that there is no solid ground for the argument you've made about a girl's skill often being overlooked, that's called hasty generalization and is quite unfitting. The reason I say there's no ground for it, apart from the obvious, is that it'd be the same as me making the claim that "ppl generally see boys as silly and unserious and don't do well in school hence it blows their confidence". This argument doesn't stand because there's nothing to actually back it up except for "i feel that..." what u may find to be true can be a world of difference from the actual fact.
@@someasiandude8645 I see your point, and it's valid. I don't have any objective facts to stand behind, but when started the video I would have guessed right away that she was the 4.0 student. Some forms of discrimination are subtle enough where there isn't solid logic that can be used to call it out, only trends in what you see. As far as what you mentioned about boys not succeeding in school, where there are statistics, there are reasons. It could be discrimination, or it could be an external reason, but it deserves to be investigated. I could be wrong as to why she doesn't come across as confident or isn't perceived as being as high achieving as she is, but for some reason she was underestimated by all three people even after talking to her, despite it seeming reasonable for her to be chosen by at least one of them as the 4.0 student. This seems to be a trend to me that women seem to be underestimated in their intelligence and abilities.
As an Asian woman, a lot of us struggle highly with self confidence. Many of us have such high expectations placed on us and it’s caused a lot of anxiety and self-esteem issues. Even now as I am about to start working soon, I’ve gotten so many comments from profs and supervisors over the years saying I lack confidence and my personality is too reserved. And I’m honestly so fucking sick of hearing this
I immediately knew she was a language arts teacher. Dont get me wrong she could be a nice person but from just this clip she gave off the same energy most of my ELA teachers gave. Like her most of my ELA teachers had a superiority complex… especially the way she talked to the lower GPA Kids she had a very condescending tone.
Dont get me wrong i had a few really good Language arts teachers but most just ruined the subject 🤷♀️
I noticed that too
I found the way she interacted with male students as opposed to female students to be very off. Reminds me of teachers who would favour the male students, and give less attention and praise to female students.
Exactly
Truee
I feel so bad for the Asian girl - everyone got hyped up besides her despite having a 4.0 which is such a microcosm of how society views women, but especially Asian women. A lot of us are taught to keep our head down, work hard, and don’t draw too much attention to ourselves. I’m so grateful I organically grew out of that thanks to amazing teachers. I understand needing confidence and eye contact, but not one person validated the countless hours of hard work she’s been putting in despite struggling with anxiety and panic attacks. I’m so proud of her and hope she’s doing well.
WHO cares
@@saske8484 you obviously cared enough to comment my friend
@@saske8484no one cares about you
why are u taught to keep head down? what is the reason behind? i mean how could that be good?
It’s so annoying how yt people live in their own box and don’t realize different cultures have different norms on what’s acceptable and how to act. not stereotyping but most asian women i knew in high school were all 4.0 students but always also very shy.
One of them kept bringing up the eye-contact avoidance as a lack of interest, while it can totally be a sign of just shyness or even autism. It shows the bias there still is about confidence being a reflection of smartness, which also transfers into the working world
This!!!
Yes, exactly what I was thinking. I can’t make prolonged eye contact but that doesn’t mean I don’t care about school, it’s the opposite.
Yeah, teachers would always tell me that and you only grow up to be insecure about your personality
Yep or trauma, ADHD. So many things.
That’s what I was thinking. I had good grades in high school, but I’m not extremely outgoing. I’m pretty shy and eye contact can be difficult for me, especially if I think about it to hard lol.
I was a 4.0 student. The lack of confidence thing made a lot of sense to me because I too was the quiet shy kid at the back with absolutely no self esteem. I used to find my worth through my grades and that became a big part of my identity, because I was convincing my worth through other people's validation. It was actually, really, sad. My confidence definitely got better in time but that comment killed me, because lack of confidence is the reason I had 4.0 but at the same time is perceived to be a negative characteristic
Feel that. I also had a 4.0. The way she carried herself screamed 4.0 to me. It was the anxiety and stress of that 4.0 mindset. And the frustration she had when they assumed she had 3.8 because of her lack of confidence. It was always so frustrating because you're trying so hard to make up for your personality with your GPA and then everyone just assumes the charmers are smarter and harder working than you. Not to say they aren''t, just the assumption makes you feel like shit.
Keeping a 4.0 was a bare minimum for me because I have the opportunity to get a free education unlike my parents. I had a little bit of stress but it was manageable. High school was pretty easy overall.
Bruh everyone in the replies got a 4.0 GPA?💀
In Canada we didn’t do GPAs in high school (only university) but I had an approximately 91% average among all my classes (my classes were math and science focused along with English and AP Micro Economics). However, I had no confidence and not really anything interesting going on in my life. 5 years later I have graduated university and started working and can tell you that in the real world no one gives a flying fuck about your grades, it’s all about confidence and your personality. I suppose grades are just thresholds to get into university programs, but from there it aint shit. In the hiring process they didn’t even ask for my university GPA 😂
I think she was also sad about all the encouragement the others were getting when it looked to me like maybe she needed it the most. She seems to feel a lot of pressure on herself
It's really bad how much these teachers correlate perceived confidence with ability. Not making eye contact (especially while thinking about or processing something), being withdrawn or less participative... For me, those are often signs that I'm concentrating and learning!
likewise
You're indeed right!
@@taigaforest2009
Well , I am a lot like u. But when it's comes to giving answer in vivas, displaying my abilities I do it confidently because I know I am prepared.
And in vivas when u get like 2-3 mins with the examiner u really have to rely on ur speaking skills and not just ur answer. I want the marks inv so I have to shed my shy personality at that point and appear as confident as possible. It's gives an impression that I know everything. It works always
You understand that's life? People who are more confident are almost always perceived to be more capable. It's not some anecdotal, small sample case. Everyone has this perception even you. It's very fundamental psychology.
this is why i had sooo much beef with my teachers as a 4.0 student, because at the same time, i am absolutely NOT shy. quiet and withdrawn and introverted - yes. but once they criticized me for who I am, I bit back immediately.
Felt my dude with the 1.5. So many students struggled with depression because of covid. As one of those students my heart goes out to him.
Same here.
yeah, I developed really bad anxiety bc of covid
bruh covid is over
@@ceoofaesthetics5281I can tell you’re like 10, clearly you don’t understand High School.
Praying that you are doing well❤
The guy with the 1.5 GPA had the same thing that happened to me happen to him. It sucks knowing that your mental health from years ago still affects your GPA now even if you get good grades. I'm an A/B student and I still have a 1.6 because of how bad I struggled my sophomore year during quarantine
as someone who’s not from America and doesn’t go off of GPA’s, I was wondering, how is it calculated? because like you said you get A/B’s so I would assume you have a high GPA but you said you don’t. just curious and hoping your mental health has gotten better now ☺️
@@penguin-tc1cx Pretty sure they mean that they're usually an A/B student but during that period the mental health struggles caused them to underperform. With the American GPA system if you fuck up one or two semesters it can be impossible to bring your GPA back up to close to what it was before.
@@penguin-tc1cxhey base it off your grade in the class by the end of the semester so say even if you are getting A/Bs on assignment but your overall grade for the class is bad then it’s not going to help your GPA when they add all of it together at the end of the year.
@That One Welsh Guy i was about to reply but you explained it pretty well so thank you lol
@@penguin-tc1cx basically all the grades you get throughout all four years is turned into a cumulative grade and that’s your gpa. Gpas are calculated every semester. So basically how you calculate gpas is every letter grade counts for a gpa number. A+ is 4.5, A is 4.0, B is 3.0, C is 2.0, D is a 1.0 and anything below that you don’t want lol. So last semester my final grades were a 4.5 in science, a 4.5 in English, a 4.5 in art, a 4.5 in fitness, a 4.5 in crew, a 3.0 in geography, and a 2.0 in math. The way to calculate it is to add up all of those and divide the number by what classes you have. So adding all those up is a 27.5 and when you divide that by the number of classes (7 classes) it’s a 3.9. But basically throughout high school you just want your grades every semester to be good then they average it and that’s your gpa for college
Last semester for me was really hard actually because a teacher told me how to calculate my gpa and I got obsessed with keeping it really good. I would check it every single day after school and get so stressed out sometimes that’s I wouldn’t be able to do anything except worry about my gpa.
You guys should do an episode on guessing their college GPA based on their current job. This would interesting to see how people develop after college and if peoples GPA genuinely impacts their future careers.
I’d love to see software engineers there. Plenty of 2.5 GPA students who make like $200-300k because GPA is not super important.
considering your networking lands a lot of gigs & most jobs arent looking at transcripts these days, it could be all over the place. Minus professions like doctors & lawyers we could see some really high achieving folks with low GPAs
@@johnnyyip9404 Well, there's significantly more to the story than that. The science shows that GPA, particularly in college, does correlate with success in one's future. However, software engineers tend to have "lower" GPAs because their classes are significantly harder than average and, therefore, are expected to be lower by employers. GPA, particularly in software engineering, is not very important because they will easily weed out those that can code well and those that can't in their hiring process. Many Big Tech interviews are multi-day, multi-hour interviews. Software engineering is the exception to the rule. Most employers are going to care about a candidate's GPA if it's their first job out of college.
Yes!!
I had a very low GPA in high school now I am a principal Engineer just did not want to do any work in school
The 1.5 GPA was so eloquently spoken and smart in my opinion, I bet their essay was really good too. I relate to struggling immensely mentally and physically during covid
I don’t think gpa has anything to do with how smart you are. If you have a low gpa things might not be going very well at home or you are depressed or you just simply aren’t good at school and feel like it’s holding you back etc
Writing and speaking are so different
That true 😭 bro It's just hard facing with someone during covid
bro respect these students for being able to withstand such jusdgement.
My anger issues could never.
I felt like they were judge to the Black guy and Asian girl 👀👀
yk most of the ppl sign up for this😭 u would look stupid if u got mad KNOWING you signed up for it , the whole point is to get judged, no one here knows them personally
"My anger issues could never" - 🤡 💀
@@karinacelestino9470 they didn’t sign up to be judged based off their race ….
@@ivykenner2206 3 months late, and whomp whomp then u sign up expect the worse yk how these go anyways shouldn’t have never signed up if ur that sensitive
The 3.8 guy, you can tell he comes from a good supportive background. The way he speaks, what he wears (expensive modern streetwear fit), and the fact that he brought up his mom gave it all away. I bet his mom/dad are like business people, drs, or lawyers or something lol
I didn't like the substitute teacher questioning why he could achieve a 3.8. He seemed to ask the others what they wanted to do next, whereas he was shocked that this guy could achieve this.
he has a DEO hoodie on !
@@evennotodd agreed. i think the easiest guesses should have been the 2.0, the 4.0, and 3.8 gpa. you can tell the 4.0 works hard and the 3.8 clearly has a strong support system
I had a very good support system, dressed like him, played sports etc, yet my parents are Latin American Immigrants. Don’t think that has all too much to do with it.
I would hire that guy for whatever job. Respectful, no bs (or at least does his bs in private), quiet but capable, attentive. Everything else can be learned on the job. Hope he can make his mom proud (not that she isn't already).
Talk about the self fulfilling prophecy effect. These judgments, whether conscious or not, will change the way teachers treat their students. The odds of performing well in school are against you once your teacher thinks you’re incapable or deficient.
So true and extremely sad.
It’s known as the pygmalion effect. Where the teachers expectations affects the students motivation & performance
Did you just take AP Psychology because I just learned that term LOL
damn. fr.
And they grade you accordingly.
It’d be interesting having teachers guess high school GPAs out of a lineup of adults who are 25+ and settled into adulthood. Edit: I said 25 PLUS. And frankly, there really are a lot of 25 year olds who have their career together.
I think you overestimate how many 25+ year olds are “settled” into adulthood lol
@@Alex-02 facts lmao im one of the unsettled still
25 is too soon after college to see ROI for college grads, would skew things in favor of the kids who don't value school as much and might have lower GPA. Wait until 30-35 for a more fair comparison.
I find it so interesting that the girl who has the 4.0 is the one everyone assumed was just shy of it. I think it shows that we can be doing everything perfect by definition but people will still assume you fall just short
Also that maintaining that standard and level of grade really stresses you out mentally, poor girl seemed really anxious
You and everyone in these comments are also not mentioning that the teachers were ranking these students off of what their preconceived notions are. Of course theyre going to go with their instinct or what they've experienced, you and everyone else on the planet would act the same way if they were given this opportunity to rank people, especially off of a defined metric where they have to rank them off of whatever numbers are placed in front of them. Im sure none of the teachers mean anything negative by ranking them the way they did, they were literally asked to rank them off of their experiences as teachers, thats why they have teachers doing this and not someone in another occupation. Also im not attempting to attack you with this, reply, just that a large majority of these comments act so upset what other people think, it shows insecurity instead of just believing in their own abilities no matter what people think of them. Nobody knows you better than yourself and i feel bad that it takes people so long into their lives to realize this.
@@Moleymolerfinally
@@Moleymoler you cant convince the keyboard warriors trying to find anything to get mad at good luck though
i got a 4.9 gpa in high school and i understand why that “lack of confidence means you’re not that smart” hit her hard. i was that shy quiet kid in the back of class too and i made up for my social and emotional shortcomings and bland personality by getting good grades. it’s like all of my worth was condensed into this little number and when people doubted my intelligence it felt like they were reducing me to nothing. stay strong brilliant peers, you can make it out too
isn't 4 the max gpa? Im from the UK so we don't use that system but from media I've always seen 4 as the best?
@@kathybrown3124 You can get a gpa higher than a 4.0 when you earn As in all AP classes I believe
My school had AP classes but the max was still 4.0. I think it just depends on the school.
@@Alyssa-oc7rj we’re u in them lol?
@@kathybrown3124 In my country the maximum is 6,0. F = 1, D = 2, C = 3, B = 4, A = 5 and A+ (or the mark you get for 100%) = 6
I knew the asian girl had a 4.0 based on her career goals. The fact that she had made up her mind about that already. I also knew for sure that the asian guy was most likely above a 3.0...either 3.4 or 3.8. It's a culture thing. Even if they hate or dislike school, the culture keeps them afloat IMO.
same
I knew because she was Asian and shy.
I was so surprised when they rated her lowest! I thought most teachers would be aware of the (true) stereotypes and she wants to do surgery!?!
A for Asians means Average. B for them means Below average. So Asians don't want to have too many Bs on that report card.
@@raquetball lowest? they all gave her 3.8, which is second highest
High chance 1.5 guy is actually academically smart, regardless of his gpa. He already said he got into college due to the essay he wrote and tests he took, so it's safe to assume the results could've been remarkable. Give the guy a break, we can't expect everyone to fit into the normal curve, especially if the education system mostly caters to a standard.
I was also a troubled kid like he was. I didn't even finish highschool. I was kicked out and subsequently admitted to a mental institution because of my depression. Pretty sure I had like a 1.0 GPA. I also never applied myself in school. I went back to do my undergrad at 26... I'm sitting at a 4.0 right now.
Fr
I really loved when the student asked "Does it make me dumb or intelligent?" The teacher replied, "All it means is that your focus is not towards academics." I can't agree more, your scores don't define your intelligence and neither your success in life!
4:35
I feel for the shy girl. I grew up being bullied for being Asian, so I ended up being super withdrawn and shy to avoid drawing as much attention to myself as possible. I did well academically in high school but my teachers favored the more outgoing and loud students. I’m lucky my college professors and peers much more understanding.
relatable as an girl of African immigrants. I'm sure my posture then was much worse. I couldn't even walk in the hallways without stepping weird cuz I was so tense. I'm 30 now and doing 100 times better! High school may suck kids, but its only the beginning of your life and will get much better!
@@MsDudette21 oh lord. That’s my problem now. I can’t even walk down the hallways without trembling, nearly tripping, etc.
Did things ever get better for you during highschool, or was it afterwards?
@Retired CHP Officer It got much better for me when I became an adulthood. Doesn't mean high school can't get better for you though! If it doesn't, remember you still have the rest of your life. At some point u won't even remember a lot of shit from high school.
@@Vernors most people are pretty awkward in high school dont sweat it
Same. I felt like my teachers favored the loud kids who did bad in school cause they gave the teachers attention idk.
i think this is a perfect example of why we need more diverse teachers. these teachers seem so close minded to different students. just feels off.
Well one must generalize to guess something like this. However. That guy said he took AP classes but they guessed he was 2.0, like why...
The glasses math teacher was really chill
@@monicawilson8075 cause they already filled the higher spots and couldn't change them. They literally said they would give him a higher gpa if they had spots available.
In reality they would be spending lots of time with the kids and seeing their work. If they didn't make any assumptions then this segment would just be all the teachers saying "I have no way to tell what is this student's GPA.
Yupp diversity is so important, especially in the classroom
I had a classmate in my AP Calculus class who was a goth/punk girl, had a bunch of piercings and different hair colors. She was super bright in class, had straight A’s in her other honors courses and did very well in the AP Calculus exam. Never judge a book by a it’s cover.
I’ve only seen 1 comment about the black student. It just reminds me of the racial biases in school that even I dealt with.
I had a teacher accuse me plagiarizing in front of the whole class in the 8th grade and I told her straight up that I’m just smart and that if she needed me to I could prove it to her. I also let her know how disrespectful that was.
For them to ask him if the gpa was given to him was pure disrespect. If I was him I would’ve asked “why would it be given to me?” So I can watch him stumble over his words…
A post on twitter explained this perfectly
“Black students have to endure only to be seen as the least intelligent in the group. Meanwhile, furry boots had the lowest GPA in the group, yet the teachers immediately thought she had the highest”
this!! omg. i remember being younger, & my teacher questioning my grade on an assignment saying "i dont think youre a hard worker," before. and that really crushed me, esp since i worked so hard for a good grade in her class, only for her to drop it to a 72% because i didnt complete a warm-up.
@@remwifeyykeep going guys 💖🥹💖
Good for you that you stood up. It’s disgusting when people with higher authority act this way. It says a lot about our society…
I’m a high school teacher and this video made me cry. I really related to the math teacher who got emotional talking about being there for his students. To me, my relationship with my students is more important than anything else like grades or behavior. I love my job and my students.
Keep it that way ! So many students need people like you !
Thank you for all you do!! Every school sounds like they need a teacher like you!
it really means a lot! my comfort teachers are what got me through high school. they motivated me when I felt like I had no one.
Very wholesome. Thank you for your service in the education sector.
Thank you for caring. It really makes a world of difference.
Tbh I feel sorry for the generation who had to attend HS during COVID. They really were robbed that HS experience that prior generation talked about
Rightt😢
personally it’s the only way i passed and didn’t commit suicide
@@audreycren litterally lol
yep, well it is what it is 🥲
@@audreycren LOL should have done it
9:58 "You'd guess wrong." HELL YEAH this guy is such a legend.
4.0 girl was a dead giveaway as soon as she stated she wanted to go into medicine and at an early age too.
It’s interesting to see teachers’ unconscious biases displayed. It reflects the importance of appearance/outward presentation… edit: also as other commenters have said, it's important to try and mitigate the effects those biases might have
its definitely not unconscious hence the "from MY experience" that one of the teachers said
It doesn’t reflect the importance of appearance as much as it reflects the importance of noticing and trying to disregard one’s biases
Disagree with that last part.
It reflects the importance of questioning your own fucking biases.
Is it baseless biases or pattern recognition that would often be correct ? 🤔
@@swegatron2859 it is the latter, and it's completely reasonable to have these judgement about people based on some of their caracteristics - everyone has them, and they can be useful considering our caracteristics, whatever they be, aren't isolated variables with no influences on one another (ex to avoid dangers - you will be wary of someone who has eardrop tattoos & menacing tattoos all over him, who looks intimidating and strong, who looks too serious, etc.). It'd be wrong to act on these preconceived opinions as if they were some absolute truth without learning about the individual (if you can), however.
I’m going to be honest. The substitute teacher that asked the black student with a 3.8 GPA. If he just gets the 3.8, or he actually worked for it. It kind of bothered me. It was low-key, a micro aggression. Him being a substitute teacher, he would know that students work for the GPA. By asking that he’s implying that black students don’t try as hard.
My hot take to that question was "do you find your coursework easy."
I literally looked right at my husband and said that when we saw that. He’s a horrible teacher. His entire vibe during this video said horrible old school teacher set in his ways.
I found that a weird question as well, maybe because he looked all nonchalant and unbothered he asked that
I mean does that 3.8 mean less because he worked for it...? I'm so confused. Props to that kid, even id his mom pushed him.
The. Went on to chuckle as if the kid was afraid of- not inspired by- his mother to achieve. Def racial bias.
i had a 4.0 in high school and presented just like that girl. i was mad for her that she wasn’t given the 4.0. i knew it was her immediately
They basically underestimated all the minorities which is so sad no one realized the implicit bias. But with the white kids the teachers had so much empathy and faith in their abilities.
It reminds me a lot of my experiences in school. Teachers always assumed i was dumb based on how i looked. Especially if i was too quiet they thought i wasn’t learning. Or if i had a bad day that i was difficult. I graduated highschool with a 3.8 unweighted taking all AP classes. And only didn’t get a 4.0 because i missed alot of school due to a concussion in gymnastics. But i graduated with a bachelors in engineering and information systems with a 3.8 and am working on my masters of computer science with a 4.0 as of now. I did 3 years of co-op as a software dev in undergrad and got recruited by a big company 5 months before graduation. Non of my teachers would’ve expected that from me.
Congratulations
On the other hand the white kids were the bottom 3 performers, so if those teachers generally aren't 100% accurate, they would always overrate the lower performers and underrate the higher performers.
It’s not that deep and your statement doesn’t hold that much racial importance, it applies for everyone of every race. You are not “unique” lmao. Woke ideology is truly such a dumb propaganda. If we wanted to go by school’s discriminations (which does exist) in the actual 2023/2024 US system then the girls should be ranked first, then the non-white races lastly white as the administration being as impacted by nonsense that racism and sexism do still persist but not in the way you think of.
These “implicit bias” you talk about are only your way of trying to victimise yourself and other people towards somethings that doesn’t exist.
would you recommened taking engineering and information systems over comp sci?
@@camchc5563 I prefer engineering depends what you want to do with the degree
My brother wore black metal band tshirts, pointedly straightened his hair into his eyes, and was an all around delinquent and ended up getting the highest math score in his entire grade. Even won an award. You really never can judge 😂
reminds me of Tom Rocks Maths, he has a Maths PHD in the UK and works at Oxford University in the UK one of the top two universities here. He has both arms filled with tattoos and several piercings. Its when you look closer at the tattoos you can see that he is probably one of the biggest nerds out there, literally has Pi twisting around his body to i don't know how many decimal places.
I really hate the implication that listing to black metal or metal in general suggests academic weakness. I know that wasn't your point, I just hate the stereotype.
@@hamiltonhardy289 you are right. Metal fans are probably **listing* to some brainy stuff.
There is a large stereotype that folks who have good grades are geeky losers with no life. Apparently, you can't even like music, or else your AP Human Geography teacher in 9th grade will pick on you all year (definitely not coordinated towards anyone at all, Mr. M)
@@hamiltonhardy289 I entirely agree with you! As a metal head in high school, many teachers and students are convinced I lack potential and am just an overall disinterested outcast. I’m about to finish my freshman year, and being most definitely a quiet, reserved student, my peers have a hard time believing I achieved a 4.5 GPA; one of, if not the highest in each of my classes. Anyway, if y’all want to talk music, my favorite band is by far The Black Dahlia Murder!
I really wish I would have had more teachers that gave a shit beyond the grades and care about the individual more, as these teachers seem to do. I think a lot of people lose interest and motivation once they spiral into the negative and teachers back in my school days used to make it worse, by judging the person based on their grade and treat them like lesser humans... its really refreshing to see this change
The school at work at follows this idea. We give no grades, there are no tests. There are so many ways to evaluate students other than grading them.
And isn't it disgusting how much garbage teachers are being put through in this country now? Indoctrinating kids, grooming kids, all this crap that is objectively not true. I just don't get it anymore how we can treat our teachers this bad, and then expect them to do their jobs and make the next generation of students with all this overhead. It's beyond me. Not to mention the pay situation most teachers deal with, having to buy supplies etc themselves. Just, ugh.
The whole argument or the proposition that school grades should be a determining factor of one's abilities is in and of itself a big disgrace.
Personally, I have always found myself disapproving the system of school, and I was always regarded as an inadequate individual in my school days; that lurking thought of being a useless student deteriorated me further -- I could not help myself but think that everything was very unfair given the plethora of students ranging from different types of backgrounds and abilities.
Shame, really.
That math teacher made me wanna go back to my Geometry teacher and tell him how much his support and giving me more opportunities helped me feel as if I wasn’t truly stupid. I’ve always been bad at math, and I still was, but for once I was able to improve like I never had before. Good teachers are genuinely one of the most important things in a kids life.
“Is your gpa just what you get , or do you have to work hard at it?” … what a racially charged question.
I love the skater guy,he is well-spoken and seems more confident than others. what he says is so relatable and true.
I agree, i bet he had a really strong academic record before covid and will no doubt bounce back in college
He also didn't boast. He's so humble and honest about everything.
@@Nuraar1 True, it's all about don't judge a book by its cover.
The younger guesser guy is such a teacher--takes it to mentor. I have tears in my eyes. He is serious when he says he feels a kid's pain. What a gem.
I didn't expect the posture and avoiding eye contact comment to get on my nerves like it did. I have the same "problem" and I've always been one of the best students in my class.
i was the best student of my class for years. i was quiet and mostly kept to myself and a group of friends. my posture sucked, my self esteem sucked and i couldn't keep eye contact. intelligence and performance have nothing to do with your social skills or confidence
wah wah wah
4:43 tbh she and I is in the boat. People judge me by my posture, avoiding eye contact, lack of confidence etc. 😢
I’m so thankful we don’t have a GPA system here in Europe. I can’t imagine the stress of having 1 bad term effect your score for the rest of your time at school!
I think it's actually better than having one exam determine your entire high school career. No matter how well we do if we end up doing bad in that one exam everything goes to waste there's no chance of redemption
@@ayasektaoui9958it actually not just one exam but two years (in germany) the last exams are the most important ones but if you had good grades in those two years befors you'd still have good grades in the end
@@nat9408 yea us too but even the first exam still is heavily influenced by the last one it just seems to me that the GPA system can be a lot more fair
@@nat9408 yep here in the Netherlands it's also the last two years and at the highest level (VWO), it's the last two years and for some classes the last three years. The exams are half of the final grade.
I actually like it. I got food poisoning last semester which really made it super hard to get all As, but I still did. A semester can be really rough, but I do better with semester by semester than by exam (I could never to the Chinese exam system). Also, depending on your school, you could retake the class and get a higher grade.
As a high school teacher of 15 years I got all of them correct. I really didn’t like the sub asking the 3.8 student about achieving his GPA. Black teens deal with too many biases as it is, and this was clearly evident in this video. Doesn’t matter how well spoken, well dressed, or well mannered we are our skin color will always dictate others perceptions and assumptions. It’s sad. He seems like an amazing person and I’m rooting for him!
Exactly
I agree.
That’s my son and he truly is an amazing kid. He was perfect for this video because I worked in education and am aware of the biases some teachers would have, especially with him being a 6ft black young man with locs. So much was cut out of the video but it was very interesting.
But they asked everyone general questions like that? The whole point was getting to know the students' motivations and aspirations.
@@Yonnieshieldsyou are doing amazing mom! Happy belated Mother’s Day! I’m glad you are in education because we really need supportive teachers to help our youth!
I loved the math teacher so much. He was super sweet and so caring about not hurting the feelings of the students that he felt or knew had done bad.
the math teacher seems like an incredible teacher and person. glad to see someone with so much compassion and awareness as to how much a good teacher can impact a student.
1.5 GPA guy is gonna go far, powered through all of that, and has his sights set, calling it 🙌
Had a 2.4 gpa, went to community college, dropped out, joined the Air Force reserves, went back, got my BS in mechanical engineering, landed a job at a federal laboratory, now I’m getting my masters in nursing as well as a second BS in mathematics at 29. Never too late to start over.
Congrats! Sounds like a lot of hard work, I’m glad its paying off.
(Though, technically speaking 29 is pretty on track for a MA)
@@claudiak22Yeah! In lots of countries it’s common to go to school all thorough your 20s. Education is a privelege
Went back to do my undergrad at 26 after getting kicked out of highschool. Sitting at a 4.0 right now.
If u don't mid me asking, what is your salary now
@@ginhitsugaya8245 I was only at the laboratory for 1.5 years. I started at $38.50/hour and left at $40.96/hour but I also traveled a lot which accrued OT which equated to another $5k/year. But I didn’t work as an engineer at the lab, I was a Technologist. Surprisingly, a lot of coworkers also had bachelors in engineering even though the position didn’t require one. Still in nursing school so no salary yet.
12:31 the asian girl when she hears the teacher : OK so my hard work means nothing:(
As I watched this video, I recognized the biases I have as a teacher. My desire is to never lose my heart that never loses sight of the beauty and potential in others.
I hated high school and took an exit exam to leave early when i was 16. I am now about to transfer to a university from community college with a ~3.8 gpa, and im much happier/healthier than i was in high school. For anyone out there struggling in highschool, I seriously recommend you talk to a counselor/your parents about exploring different options for your future.
So does it count for a high school diploma?
@@jeffoneto278xdA GED does
that’s american stuff tho in my country you could never leave early lol.
@@jeffoneto278xd in California you can take the CHSPE, which is what I did. It's supposed to be graduation equivalent. I don't know if they have similar things in other states, but i didn't have to do any other school before going to community college. I don't know about higher institutions. I've also met people who did middle college, and finishing high school by taking classes at community college. There's also trade schools, and probably other options as well depending where you live. I'm just speaking from my own experience so definitely do your own research if you think finishing traditional high school isn't for you
@@thankyoujieun I mean I know lots of other places have similar stuff. The UA-camr “Andrewism” is Trinidadian and got his pass and went into Uni early from homeschooling in 🇹🇹
That male teacher with glasses and a beard is a clear example of how teachers should be. They should be academically and morally supporting students. That is how students grow to their fullest potential.
Nah but he still made clear assumptions on the reasons for his low score, and was only supportive after he realised he hadn’t even considered that people have other factors in their life such as mental health. A good teacher should take their pupils whole lives into consideration at all times, to truly support them. Hopefully he learnt something from this and will now become a good teacher.
Nah that was an example of how teachers shouldn’t be, his comments about the nails was very condescending. Not to mention the other bias he had
I have to say, that all the teachers are quite heartwarming uplifting people. They seem good teachers with real heart.
I was that 1.5 student. I feel personally (at my high school specifically pre-covid) that there was just not enough sympathy or support for students with mental illnesses. It was so easy to understand the work and to get it done at school. But outside of school, that’s a whole different struggle when you don’t feel comfortable even being in your own home. College was a struggle for me too during covid, but around that, I feel like students are taken so much more seriously now that professors and educators are more aware of how debilitating mental struggles can be for a student and that’s a good thing. But I wish it didn’t take a global pandemic for most educators to learn to support students going through mental battles :/
i hope ur doing okay, here for you
Me too, I was in a toxic household situation, and being there everyday was really affecting my mental health. It wasn’t an aspect focused on a lot for students
It feels awful to be deemed as less than what I truly am due to a shy personality. And teachers like that intensifies our inconfidence. My own teachers used to ignore my achievements. They would say in class "no one worked out this homework problem correctly" while I literally did (and they marked my homework). And they would publicly praise another student for ranking No.1 for the past year while actually it was me. I have to say these experiences have affected my confidence for so many years. As a teacher, it's important not to do that.
I'm sorry. If it's any consolation, shyness is actually seen as desirable in other more collectivist cultures. There, being shy and reserved would make you appear smart, popular, and well liked. I'm sorry that your value and intellect was ignored, and I hope you'll receive better recognition for your abilities in the future.
@@dianaadamo5574 That is truly nice of you and I appreciate your kind words. Interestingly, I went to high school in China, a supposedly very "collectivist" culture. I replied only to add to the many comments already there relating to the 4.0 girl. Despite culture differences, maybe it's more of a universal human nature to be biased unintentionally. And that's why I feel that as teachers it should have been important to be aware of and fight against these bad natural habits in order to treat all students fairly.
I feel you brother. U need to report these types of people.
Only study for yourself I always got good grades for the praise of being smart but if you think about it it's really dumb you have to find the thing you really like and give it your all. believe me it is better that you didn't get the praise and you still had good points because when you get in university the praise is gone and you start to think why you even go to university
@@gabrieldasilva1560 I see your point. But the point is about being unequal. It's not like they are avoiding praising everyone in order to prevent this "studying for the praise" thing. It's about their preference and bias. Therefore, I would refuse to acknowledge even the slightest good for me in that past experience.
the skater guy’s story and the 4.0 gpa girl both hit close to home; i’ve been the shy quiet nerd and i also struggled through quarantine, my mental health really worsened and impacted my grades during covid
I used to be a straight A student til I got SA’d by a teacher in Senior Year. It really affects me til now, I’m just a broke ass college drop out and that teacher still haunts me in my dreams.
Oh darling, so sorry that happened to you😢😢😢
Happened to my sister. Just because of one teacher she lost her gold medal. She's become totally opposite of her bubbly personality. I sometimes wish she had never gone to uni.
I'm really sorry to hear about what happened to you. Don't let people of the past stop your from being the happiest in the present. All the best
i really feel for the 1.5 guy. i had a 3.9 in high school, one of the top students and entered a competitive premed program in university. then, i was hit with a million mental and physical health issues, which made keeping up with classes very very hard on top of the pandemic induced online classes. finished my freshman year with a 1.9. now i’ve been catching up, still hardcore dealing with these issues but i’ve made it to a 2.6 in my second year. the goal is to finish with a 3.9 hopefully, but it won’t go without millions of doctor appointments, therapy sessions, self hate and of course, my symptoms.
8:44 "Why do you think I didn't give you the 4.0?"
Uh... because you're judgy?
To be fair, their goal was to judge them. Being judgy is kind of required to be a judge.
that teacher mentioning the girls low confidence and bad posture made me so upset. how uncalled for.
I had very low self-esteem in school because of bullying, loneliness and things at home. Teachers, and later bosses, would hold me back on better opportunities because of it. Confidence can be overrated.
That makes sense: if you don‘t care about your body or don’t do any activities that give you confindence, why would you care about your education. If you don’t call it out, people will always keep these bad habits
Have you ever talked to the smartest kid in the grade, they know it and act like it. It’s fair to assumption to think the 4.0 might have had a little cocky attitude.
I was gonna say, the ppl with the best grades can be the quietest and least confident bc they rely on academic validation
I was a 4.0 student. The lack of confidence thing made a lot of sense to me because I too was the quiet shy kid at the back with absolutely no self esteem. I used to find my worth through my grades and that became a big part of my identity, because I was convincing my worth through other people's validation. It was actually, really, sad. My confidence definitely got better in time but that comment killed me, because lack of confidence is the reason I had 4.0 but at the same time is perceived to be a negative characteristic
The way they judged the 4.0 girl showed that they did not get 4.0 in high school and will never know what it’s like to be a smart and humble teenager.
these are the most high school high school teachers ever
3:52
Teacher: You got a cute outfit onnnnn 💅
Student: 😐
Insane they gave the skater white kid a 4.0 and not the Asian girl just because she was quiet and “slouching”? Lmao they were both premed insane how the guys confidence translated to a higher gpa in their head
I think it's cause it's a cut video and they tought it would be to obvious
If they gave the Asian girl the highest gpa them ppl in the comments might start saying they were stereotyping
i think you have to take into account tho they’re speaking from experience as teachers
Quiet and slouching is literally the indicator of a smart person 💀 quiet means they don’t have time to socialize, and slouching means they’re invested in doing work on a desk
@@David.124they gave the last girl a 4.0 because that's the only one that's left
Omg the teacher with the glasses… he is who all teachers should be. He genuinely cares about his students.
All three of the teachers are wearing glasses.
The L.A. teacher is the epitome to why I hated high school. "You look like a failure so you are one." She acted just like the guidance counselor who said I shouldn't waste my time with college. The greatest feeling was graduating top of my class in computer science.
6:50 that laugh 💀
It's so dumb i love it
10:15 . . *Bro, I felt every word that kid said. I understand that feeling of being lost inside those mental institutes & honestly not knowing how to get out of it; or better, what the future has for you going forward.*
I felt bad for the teacher man, I love that guy but it was clearly heavy on him too and he cares
The guy that was talking about slouching and no confidence literally made me facepalm. Not everyone needs to be outgoing and kissing the teacher’s ass every 5 seconds to get a 4.0
3:36 This quote "the biggest thing in education isn't to teach you facts, but to teach you how to think and problem solve" is so true. I wish more kids would understand this!
It would be more interesting if the teachers were asked to rank them prior to talking to them and then see how they change their rankings after talking to them.
Obviously the well dressed folks would rank higher. There would also be preconceived racial notions (asians coming off smarter), other stereotypes etc. that would be a disaster
@@aryav.1108 exactly, we could see how stereotypes play into people's preconceived notions of what they deem "intelligent" and then how those stereotypes r changed after getting to talk to them
@@egkidk that would definitely be an interesting experiment.
@@aryav.1108a necessary disaster because people like to believe race doesn’t play as big of a role in minor things as it does
It’s amazing how they conflate confidence and intelligence when in my experience it’s been the exact opposite lol
Jus say u insecure bro
He was intelligent though he just didn’t have good gpa
Confident people are usually intelligent. Knowing that you're intellectually superior to most other people definitely makes it easier to feel confident.
@@AD-nq2nz you mean like the girl with the 4.0?
@@AD-nq2nz youre not smart
The calc teacher is the best. So sweet. I wish my maths teachers were like that guy
bro that calculus teacher seemed so sweet in the end like him as a teacher going beyond what he is payed for to help students for an overall better future
I would love to see this again with teachers guessing the high school gpas of adults who have their career or professions established and see how their view of academics in high school did/n't influence who they became.
The 1.4 gpa guy is so cute, I can also relate to struggling mentally. He has such a soft spoken voice that I enjoyed listen to him and I’m glad he’s in college :)
I like the AP Calc teacher. He seemed to try so hard not to knock their confidence or demean them
The sub was kind of a jerk at times
This made me cryyyyy this is the best video i have watched from cut 🥺 100% relate to the 1.5 guy, i was severely abused theoughout childhood, extremely smart but i hated school and was in and out of mental hospitals causing my gpa to plummet.
I was like the girl who wants to do pre-med. I was very shy and not confident in school but got good grades (I'm not saying she is shy or not confident, just that it was picked up in the video). I'm now in medical school and a lot more confident and sociable now. Confidence grows with age and experience, and certainly doing a degree and med school interviews and now OSCEs force you to at least pretend like you know what you're doing. In school I was laughed at for shaking while doing a presentation. I now do a presentation almost every week. If anyone reading this feels like they don't have the confidence to go after your goals, you do have what it takes and you just need to keep persisting.
If you don’t mind giving the advice, how did you manage to shake off your anxiety in the workforce and when publicly speaking? I have social anxiety, and I struggle insanely with job interviews. It’s so bad I really believe I won’t be able to get a job once I graduate college in a few months.
@@ladymiresame. I graduate in December and I'm freaking out.
Bro posture has nothing to do with GPA💀
Tbf it has a lot to do with confidence, if you carry yourself well you may be perceived as confident and secure in your intellectual level
@@senoir.you can have an awesome posture and have the worst grades ever lmao. they do NOT correlate.
i have a high school score of 98/100 and i have the worst posture ever. it was basically caused by me slouching while i studied, sitting down.
You are reaching.
@@WinterStones that's why I added perceived, it doesn't correlate but it sure does affect people's judgement of you
Since the very first second, I knew that girl had 4.0. It was literaly so obvious.
As a 4.95 student back in hs I always look back like "you know what it never was? that serious." Your GPA nubmer doesn't define your life path
I had a 2.0 in school. I moved around a lot, skipped most of the year, abused drugs and had undiagnosed ADHD. I liked the teacher's comment about focus being elsewhere because if you don't know you have a mental disorder or are struggling with one, you won't be able to properly apply yourself. Proud to say that I'm well informed on my diagnoses now, I quit drugs and I'm going to school to be a nurse 🙂I wish the best for the 1.5 kid as well, he'll do great in life.
my senior year was during covid and it absolutely tanked my GPA. i also had undiagnosed ADHD funnily enough. godspeed fellow 2.0er
10:57 That's a teacher that really cares for their students
he was my science teacher about 6 years ago, dude is an amazing person and i really do love talking to him when i get the chance
He said 🧍🏻♂️ 1:01
this lineup is so cute they would be such a good movie group of besties
The slouching and confidence comment as if that has anything to do with intelligence
i mean the show is built on stereotypes so no matter what the teachers are going to get fucked in the comments
The 1.5 GPA guy really speaks to me, because when covid broke out i was in 10th. Being stuck at home at 15, really stunted my growth, physically and mentally. I developed disorders i didn’t have before 10th, anxiety and panic as well as depression. I was an A average student and then all of a sudden it was C/D grades popping up on my report card. I couldn’t focus during the day online and then i couldn’t focus enough to get homework done. The only thing that saved me was how “ordinary” admins tried to make my last year. It wasn’t normal and really probably never will be, but them trying is something i’ll always be grateful for. I was lucky enough to finish my senior year with a 3.1 GPA
“Do you get a gpa because that’s ‘what you get’ or do you ‘work hard’ for it?” That was kinda CRAZY of him to ask lol
IKKK like how else do you get a 3.8gpa, you don’t just get it!
Nah I didn’t try in high school and got the same. High school isn’t hard. Being a kid in high school is hard
@@warrenjones1725 good for you! The guy was still very micro-aggressive.
Not the casual racism against the black student
MICHAEL IS MY FATHER AND HE DESERVES ALL THE LOVE 🫶🏻
He’s right I seriously had to take an extra year in high school and am now and Executive Director for a Nonprofit. It took me time to find myself.
@@caitlincanup9768 Congratulations girl! 🎉😊
He seems great! Good for you, girl! I can tell he’s so proud of you!
Congratulations!!! You’re doing great and your dad is so visibly proud 🥹🥹
Thanks y’all he cares so much about his students he’s a good guy
I definitely get the struggle with worrying about your GPA. High school sucks
That is DEFINITELY an English teacher lol
His “one bad teacher and motivation” comment was 100%. My oldest was an extreme over achiever who loved school. Had a monster of a 4th grade teacher and ever since she’s hated school. Still an overachiever maybe not as much but always tells me her motivation was ruined after her and every year she hopes and prays her younger sisters don’t get her.