Had a dryer fire a few years ago that could have been a full house fire had it not been for the quick action of my nephew (I was away at work) and the ready placement of a proper fire extinguisher (our local volunteer fire department being five miles away made it for the cleanup, bless them all). Everything that was on at the moment got zapped (TVs, Oven, a couple of game systems), and the company that installed a new service from our pole said it was undoubtedly a surge, but from unknown sources. Our HomeOwners insurance (the people with the mighty Stag...) wouldn't pay a thing since we couldn't prove where the surge came from (of course, we changed insurance companies after that). Surge protection is well worth the costs!
Read and understand the directions for SPD’s. SPD needs to be connected as close to Main as possible. If using a dedicated breaker you need to move either top breaker down the stack to make room. If one of the current breakers is the correct size and rated for dual connections (noted on side of breaker) you can connect black wires to existing breaker. Best way is to put ring connectors on black wires and mount to L1/L2 studs just below Main breaker as seen at 2:44 in your video. That is as close as you can get. No breaker needed, no breaker shuffling. Use a step drill to pop a 1/2” hole in the side panel even with L1/L2 studs for shortest run.
I'm sure someone pointed it out earlier, but what you installed was the HEPD80 vs the HEPD50 as mentioned in the content above. Same installation techniques of course. Good work. - CED Antioch
Due to the physics of surge protection, it would be better to connect the ground as close to the grounding electrode conductor as possible (I'd put it in the next hole even if I had to move a wire out of it) and the wires should be trimmed to a minimal working length. But any install is better than nothing for surge protection!
Thanks for the comment. I'm just about to install one of these so I came to UA-cam for more info. My grounds and neutrals all mixed up on the bars as they are bonded anyway. I was still going to treat them as they are separate. Attach the ground close to the main ground, and neutral near the neutral coming from the service. Does that make sense?
My house has two main breakers after the meter that feeds two panels in my garage. Inside the two main breaker panel there is a 15 breaker for an outdoor outlet nearby. Do I need two surge protectors by the main panel?
This past year was one of the busiest hornets years I've ever seen. Must have taken care of 6 of them. Happy New Year. Thank you for being part of the channel 4 such a long time.
So basically the surge protector doesn't get installed in a series but is more of a passive device meaning it only has to be on a live circuit anywhere connected to the panel
Is it your understanding that I must add a new breaker in an empty slot to my panel to use this? They say to hook it to a 15, 20 or 30 amp two pole breaker but they don't specify whether or not you're supposed to add a breaker just for it. Also, I'm wondering which size of these 3 breaker choices is the best or does it matter as long as its a 15, 20 or 30?
The product recommends that you install this as close to the top of the box as you can. Dedicated breaker is recommended. The wires on this unit are a small gauge so any of those mentioned breaker amperage should be just fine.
Um, not how I would mount it. Wires as SHORT AS POSSIBLE. As CLOSE to the neutral/ground buss as possible. Why? For every inch of wire length, you increase the clamping voltage by 20-25 VAC. So if that device dumps voltage/current at 600VAC, you add on say another couple hundred volts for example till it starts working. Shot wires short wires.......
If the voltage spikes above 600V between one leg and neutral, or above 1000v between the 2 legs (black wires), the Metal Oxide Varistor inside it shorts the extra voltage through itself to try to keep the house voltage from spiking up. Most spikes last a tiny fraction of a second so it can handle quite a large jolt, as much as probably 80,000 amps through itself for that tiny fraction of a second.
Had a dryer fire a few years ago that could have been a full house fire had it not been for the quick action of my nephew (I was away at work) and the ready placement of a proper fire extinguisher (our local volunteer fire department being five miles away made it for the cleanup, bless them all). Everything that was on at the moment got zapped (TVs, Oven, a couple of game systems), and the company that installed a new service from our pole said it was undoubtedly a surge, but from unknown sources. Our HomeOwners insurance (the people with the mighty Stag...) wouldn't pay a thing since we couldn't prove where the surge came from (of course, we changed insurance companies after that). Surge protection is well worth the costs!
Read and understand the directions for SPD’s. SPD needs to be connected as close to Main as possible. If using a dedicated breaker you need to move either top breaker down the stack to make room. If one of the current breakers is the correct size and rated for dual connections (noted on side of breaker) you can connect black wires to existing breaker. Best way is to put ring connectors on black wires and mount to L1/L2 studs just below Main breaker as seen at 2:44 in your video. That is as close as you can get. No breaker needed, no breaker shuffling. Use a step drill to pop a 1/2” hole in the side panel even with L1/L2 studs for shortest run.
Thanks for posting! Very helpful.
I'm sure someone pointed it out earlier, but what you installed was the HEPD80 vs the HEPD50 as mentioned in the content above. Same installation techniques of course. Good work. - CED Antioch
Awesome video dude!! Thanks so much for the tips!!
Happy to help! This was installed because a nice power system is going in here at the house. Full install video coming soon!
Well done on the install. I looked up the specs on Square D surge protection and it's quite impressive.
Very helpful. Thank you. Much appreciated.
Due to the physics of surge protection, it would be better to connect the ground as close to the grounding electrode conductor as possible (I'd put it in the next hole even if I had to move a wire out of it) and the wires should be trimmed to a minimal working length. But any install is better than nothing for surge protection!
Thanks for the comment. I'm just about to install one of these so I came to UA-cam for more info.
My grounds and neutrals all mixed up on the bars as they are bonded anyway.
I was still going to treat them as they are separate. Attach the ground close to the main ground, and neutral near the neutral coming from the service. Does that make sense?
@@Jaw-t3t Sounds like a good idea to me. Be careful!
My house has two main breakers after the meter that feeds two panels in my garage.
Inside the two main breaker panel there is a 15 breaker for an outdoor outlet nearby.
Do I need two surge protectors by the main panel?
Working in a panel box wearing a wristwatch. I could tell you horror stories about doing that!
You should never turn a 200amp breaker on with all of your breakers in the on position.
I wanted to install this. however I dont have any blank spots for additional breaker.
How would that surge protector be hooked up if you only have 110v so one leg on panel that’s my situation in Alaska at my remote cabin
thats a nice hornets nest you got there . lol . happy new year buddy .
This past year was one of the busiest hornets years I've ever seen. Must have taken care of 6 of them.
Happy New Year. Thank you for being part of the channel 4 such a long time.
@@LandtoHouse its been fun buddy thank you for your content .
So basically the surge protector doesn't get installed in a series but is more of a passive device meaning it only has to be on a live circuit anywhere connected to the panel
How about that hornets nest under the breaker panel?!? Nice tutorial on how to install this surge protector.
Say hello to my little friends.
They "moved on" about 2 years ago.
@@LandtoHouse Their nest would serve as a good deterant to anyone who didn't know that they were gone.
My circuirt panel is inside the house and embedded in a plasterboard wall. What is the best way to mount a whole house surge protector?
Just get a smaller kVA breaker style unit. It's plug and play.
Is it your understanding that I must add a new breaker in an empty slot to my panel to use this? They say to hook it to a 15, 20 or 30 amp two pole breaker but they don't specify whether or not you're supposed to add a breaker just for it. Also, I'm wondering which size of these 3 breaker choices is the best or does it matter as long as its a 15, 20 or 30?
The product recommends that you install this as close to the top of the box as you can. Dedicated breaker is recommended. The wires on this unit are a small gauge so any of those mentioned breaker amperage should be just fine.
Um, not how I would mount it. Wires as SHORT AS POSSIBLE. As CLOSE to the neutral/ground buss as possible. Why? For every inch of wire length, you increase the clamping voltage by 20-25 VAC. So if that device dumps voltage/current at 600VAC, you add on say another couple hundred volts for example till it starts working. Shot wires short wires.......
Says so right in the instructions, Page 4, very first paragraph.
How does this surge protector work exactly?
If the voltage spikes above 600V between one leg and neutral, or above 1000v between the 2 legs (black wires), the Metal Oxide Varistor inside it shorts the extra voltage through itself to try to keep the house voltage from spiking up. Most spikes last a tiny fraction of a second so it can handle quite a large jolt, as much as probably 80,000 amps through itself for that tiny fraction of a second.
Looks a little crooked might want to turn it to the right a few degrees.
LOL, I thought the same thing, must be my OCD!
"In my box" 😆 sry everyone 😞
❤️
this guy need to learn how its installed , i think he never read the instructions
Bad tutorial. You shouldn’t use 20 amp breaker on 14 ga wire. You should also try to keep those wires as short as possible.
Sounds like you have this concept down.
14g wire on a 20a? Lol
I caught that too 🔥