In the end, it seems like the Chosen's greatest sin wasn't that they were a warlike and belligerent civilization, but that they weren't the *best* warlike and belligerent civilization
Fun fact: in Sparta kids were encouraged to steal stuff, they got heavily punished when they were caught not because of the fact that they stole but because they were caught, they did this to learn kids to survive behind enemy lines
@@art-games6230 fun fact: every time Sparta got fiesty they were put back in their place like the weaklings they were lol. Messengers were supposedly divinely protected and after a few years of doing the "this is Sparta" bit they actually were afraid gods were mad at them (because they kept losing) and sent two dudes to the Persians to be executed in retaliation. The Persian emperor straight up laughed when they said they came there to be sacrificed 🤣. Also, when Alex's dad said "submit or if I come down there I will destroy you and you won't rise again", they replied with "If". So Alex's dad came down there and destroyed them and they remained a shit hole forever lol
"If you are the chosen, then what am I?" - Lucius Maximus. Divine galactic emperor, Bane of the Unbidden, Exterminator of the Scourge, Destroyer of the Contingency, Master of the Shroud
I thought the chosen were just a random empire, I ended up fighting a guerilla war against them because they had so many habitats, anytime I beat them in once place they popped up in another, was literally my Vietnam in that game.
had the same thing happen in one of my games bug being an empire built on slaves and needing more i took all their space and pops and forced them to work as slaves within my empire
@@karloxgc45 not when they are chipped with control chips the entire galaxy had no choice but to serve in my slave empire those that refused were turned into raw resources for my other pops be it food or what ever else was needed
So, this suckers are sort of special? What explains why those weird *ssholes have that weird special name with the Gaia world capital without the Gaia world preference.
I ran into this. The chosen had one wormhole exit that was stuck behind an isolationist fallen empire. It has become a very angry little corner of the galaxy no one wants to explore.
@@armorking7258 and is that really a thing, does every update make players stronger? Or do we just keep getting better, because if so then we probably don’t want to buff the khan for the sake of newer players like myself
It's mostly due to better civics, origins, buildings, etc. If you're feeling overwhelmed, dont worry, the lower difficulty option keeps the Khan mostly in check for newer players and any buff shouldn't affect you very much. And you'll get so much more powerful as you gain more familiarity with the game's various systems. And maybe by pausing more lol? Idk how your playstyle is
I've taken to submitting to the Great Khan if they spawn too far from me. If I can't have the throne, then I will make it as hard as possible for anyone else!
One thing to keep in mind about the shielded worlds is that they aren't doomed to DEATH, per se, they're just cut off from the rest of the galaxy, they can't leave their world. That this a bronze/iron age civilization on a Gaia world, I'm pretty sure they're good for another thousand years or so. Hell, depending on how the crisis goes, that shield may be their salvation.
I found the Chosen Ones as eager explores at the start of the game. I thought I could cheese the l gate using the starting jump drives. It didnt work out
I feel like these "extra-galactic" systems do sort of spice things up playthrough to playthrough, where you have more "older than you" empires besides the fallen empires who largely just sit around until a War in Heaven starts.
Ive seen them once so far. Thankfully the wormhole on my side had 3 planets. 3 defensive orbital rings, plus fortress worlds and a 900k station. They never got out. They just continously threw themselves at my wall. And died by the milliona.
Sounds similar to how I contained the L cluster in a previous game. Another empire caused them to spawn and was nearly wiped out before I joined the fight. I turned that empire into a protectorate and pushed the nanites back to the L Gate. Set up a fortress in the system and continuously rotated out my fleets as an xp farm. Ultimately, the early signs of the crisis appeared so I invaded the L Cluster to make sure all fleets would be ready for the Unbidden.
not true. the very first game i played following the release of galactic paragons i had Ultima Vigillis spawn in the galactic east and the chosen spawn in the galactic north-west.
@@NotSoCreative_ Its this event ### Surveillance Supercomputer #Spawn event event = { id = ancrel.12050 is_triggered_only = yes hide_window = yes immediate = { random_list = { 2 = { } # nothing 1 = { random_rim_system = { system_event = { id = ancrel.12055 } } } 1 = { modifier = { factor = 0 has_first_contact_dlc = no } random_rim_system = { system_event = { id = fircon.3500 } } } } } } The second one spawns Ultima Vigillis, the last one spawns them only if you have the first contact dlc.
@@ScorpioneOrzion maybe my game was bugged or something then? It was straight after release so I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility. And I know I’m not disillusioned because I hopped into spectator mode and checked both generations out myself.
Stumbled upon these guys in my last game Though in my game a different empire apparently had their home system spawn in there as well.... By the time the Galactic Community was formed they had the Chosen contained and had a score equal to the rest of the galaxy combined.... And Advanced AI starts were turned off btw...
I think having more than two extra-galactic clusters and having them link to each other is really called for. This way there's more ability or opportunity for other empires to obtain power that can rival yours. In my experience the L cluster is far too overcentralizing in terms of power, you get so many benefits for having it, and it doesn't really feel super difficult to hold. Meaning the benefits are massive and the risks dont seem to match those benefits. This is why i think there should be other clusters, with their own different entrances. As long as its difficult for the player to hold all of that territory, it reduces the importance of the L cluster a bit Agree,/disagree?
Definitely agree that there needs to be some change to the L-cluster gate system. Whoever controls the L-cluster can port around the map without care, or during a war you pretty much need a fleet holding at the L-gate. Would be cool if you could choose to decommission L-gates, turning them into ruined megastructures that can later be repaired. This way you can ensure you don't have a critical backdoor into your empire.
I think the whole backdoor thing is the challenge in the L-Cluster. Even without talking about MP where holding the cluster will basically set you as a target to be destroyed, I see it more as a temporary buff before the crisis rather than anything, since collecting insights can be very slow, and by the time you get there given your pop growth and industrial power it's not really worthwhile to terraform and build up all the nanite worlds instead of invading another empire. So you basically get a ton of empty resource world and a few free nanites in exchange for a system that if taken by the crisis can bypass and backdoor half the galaxy's empires
MAKE MORE CLUSTERS like give it a whole slider and alot of potential spawn options for them. this way you could turn a tiny or small galaxy and have it grow into a 500 to 600 star galaxy threw new clusters threwout the game. avoiding thr issue of "there not enough space on the map" theres plenty of space in small 100 to 400 sized galaxies map waize for 3 clusters in earch corner.
I don't necessarily think we need more clusters, but the L cluster can be op. I think, tho, the AI should recognise this- they should prioritise claiming the L cluster and be much more hostile to antagonists that hold it from them. Currently, they sit like ducks when ye have it
@@tnttiger3079 I have the opposite problem, they'll suicide hundreds of thousands in fleet power of ships attacking it. It's extremely easy to defend if you have a Zroni stormcaster.
In my last playthough, their wormhole lead to the center of a spiritualist fallen empire. Needless to say they were pretty much contained until I jumped into their system.
It's interesting that they are life seeded as origin. With the distance between their core stars and the pre FTL planet and all makes it kinda curious to think about if they had been physically placed there prior
Awesome video, and I do love the little flub accidentally left in at 4:54. Montu's videos were always so perfectly enunciated I was getting suspicious. 🤣 Edit: Oh and another at 10:38! A two-fer! 💪
A playthrough set in an alternate universe where the Aetherophasic Engine went off and both the universe and the Shroud fused together into a new realm would be cool. It would feed into the 'Hole in the Void' lore and now any and all Shroud residents run rampant everywhere, while the ascended lifeforms turned gods who activated the machine, do as they please. It is believed the Böotes supervoid was the origin point of the merger, but nothing is certain. Now, even Shroud and Shroud-Empire people form societies together, seeking refuge orbiting around black holes, since their environment makes the only safe place from any angered or belligerant god.
I just found them yesterday and thought they were just some random empire, because they spawn right on the other side of galaxy. I was even impressed that they are as strong as me at that point. Funny enough then I found Ophala near my borders which shed some light who they were.
I fought the chosen in my last game. I was playing as a clone origin barbaric despoiler with the pox bombardment precursor. I rushed and vassalized most of the other empires, including the guys who had the wormhole to the chosen. They were equivalent to me for a good long while. But they never declared war to get out so eventually I just snowballed and laid waste to their worlds while this pops became slaves on my ring worlds.
I love the randomness that adds so much replayability. I had a game where upon first contact with a fallen empire they saw me the chosen race and began worshipping my race. I dunno if it was just my race type, settling a sacred tomb world or some archelogical discovery or some combination of the 3 that was made prior to first contact but yeah that was an interesting playthrough.
So, that's where the Chosen come from. Pretty freaking cool. ran into them as my ACME, Inc. MegaCorp of Coyotes. Threw so many ships at the problem, the Galactic community voted the Xenophile fallen empire protector of the Galaxy who then offered me a spot in their federation since I was seat of the galactic market and home to nearly a quarter of the Galactic population (of mostly droids). Largest two galactic economies working together fought them to a standstill. Then the Scourge showed up. Chaos was golden and I loved it.
I had them devolve into multiple civil and unification wars until a single holy empire with 2 vassals was left, forming one of the 4 major political blocs of the galaxy before eventually siding with MSI's bloc late game when the Egalitarian federation of half the galaxy's worth of lesser powers grew too strong and freed half of MSI's vassals. It was the most politically interesting galaxy I've played.
This is really nice, though they don’t spawn in the game as the chosen, they are a single unified empire that has a civil war and during that civil war, the chosen emerge and gain power. Noticed this in a game I played a couple weeks ago, still very interesting and this video showed more to it than I thought there was 👍
In my current playthrough I just took their only non-habitat worlds via a stellarite infestation and then jump-drived into their system while they were trying to fight a fallen empire on the other side of the galaxy
@@mister_dadstersays_hi7372 I once had Prikki-Ti become crisis It actually ended bad for them when FE bullied them, I was planning to let them conquer and purge then destroy them and not be considered a monster for purging half the galaxy sniff
In my game they aren't even interacting with they galaxy. They have been sitting in their isolated space for over 50 years, with no attempt of an expansion.
It happens, just had game over when a determined exterminator crushed half the galaxy by 2350. Cant really deal with its endless hordes. More fleet power than everyone else combined
In my last game Chosen had a rebellion and purifier was left with a single system, while normal peaceful empire was born. Ofc, being unaware of the story, I went “curious, huh” and crushed both of them, but still…
I've been trying to get the terriforming achievement and my journey with 0 empires has had me encounter the chosen so many times as I wait for that Legendary paragon.
This is extremely similar to the forerunner triliogy, where some Forerunners stayed in andromeda galaxy in a technologically regressed state after their armada travelled there millions of years ago to destroy the last of the precursors. and thinking of that there would technically be forerunners alive in andromeda, even during the events of halo and master chief.
Actually, unless I'm misremembering things, the first test-firing of the halo Rings was to focus the blast into a 'beam' for lack of a better term on the orders of the Master-Builder and target it _at_ the Andromeda galaxy in order to wipe out the technologically regressed Forerunners because they couldn't accept the fact they hadn't legitimately obtained the Mantle of Responsibility, and the Andromeda Forerunners' entire existence was an 'inconvenient truth' that needed to be erased. Frankly part of me thinks having the Flood at peak strength turned loose on the Forerunner Ecumene was far too merciful a fate for that race of arrogant bastards.
@@internetzenmaster8952 if I'm not mistaken, the Halo rings were used on the prophets (can't spell san-shyoon) home system in the containment bubble, after testing the ring on a human fortress world, with a lot of precursor relics. Faun Hakkor or something like that. If I remember correctly the Master builder was horrified at the idea of the rings being test fired a third time.
The Ophala system takes a full 1,000 influence to build a star base in. It appears that since you could only navigate there with a jump drive that there’s no calculation for reducing influence cost, so it just maxes out.
I once got a world gen of three dis connection word. One L-cluster, one eternal vigilance, and a third system contain a psionic entity and a shroud plant... The third one confused the shit out of me as i remember there were no events on that third system. It's just a shroud world that got turned into a giga world for no reason.
I'm using a mod to start in the L cluster, roleplaying as a determined exterminator (a second nanite faction created to help the gate builders beat the Gray Tempest, ended up destroying them both and barely survived to populate the L cluster), and the Chosen cluster spawned literally next door to the L cluster. Soon I'm gonna jump my fleets to attack the Chosen, and use their cluster as an alternative branch of the Harvester Swarm takeover.
Hey Montu, ever consider doing an episode or two on the community's 'must have' mods? I'd love your take on Planetary Diversity and Guili's Planet Modifiers.
I found them on the other side of the galaxy. They „claimed“ 1/3 of a 1000 star galaxy. I kind of played the Uno referse card as they attacked my long time ally via a wormhole. I enslaved them all for the betterment of mankind and sated my ally. They stood by me in my time of need, and even if they are insects … they are my Allies and nobody, no empire, no fallen empire and no crisis may touch them. I allways am loyal to my Allies in my games … I enslave half, ok … 3/4 of the galaxy but I am loyal while doing so.
I would love a origin that starts you in an additional extra galactic cluster of say 8-10 stars, and a technology or project to escape into the rest of the galaxy. Set up for a tall empire, think parade in attack on titan but Sci fi.
In one of my games I came across a system that had a shielded planet in it. The shielded planet had a pre-ftl civilization that was stuck in a time loop and the shield was baking the planet. You could fix the crack in the shield dooming the civilization to death after about 100 years or you could release them. If you release them they become a fanatical purifiers. I can't remember the name of either the event nor the civilization but it sounds very similar to this.
@@TheContingency25x Anyone who starts a permanent war with me just because I happen to be in the neighborhood gets to be called a jerk from my subjective perspective. Those're just the rules =P
I triggered contact with the Chosen by jump driving into the un-colonised system, building a 1000 influence starbase and completing the archaeology site first.
Had a game where they spawned with half their systems on the outskirts, and half in the galactic core. Took a long time to figure out why my empire boarders were so messed up and would not connect properly. Was only later I realised there was a cluster with about 8 systems cut off from the rest of the galaxy with a hype lane extending from the galactic core to the exterior of the galaxy.
@@starhalv2427 I don’t think it’s a bug, I had Systems spawn in the center of the galaxy on console before. Note that it was back when Necroids hasn’t even released yet on console which was a time when bugs were essentially non-existent (at least for me).
I had them spawn in my game but they weren't the exterminators named the Chosen. They had completely different ethics and were named Holy Kelsiotan Empire. Also i for that dig site you can only pick the unity option if you are a Exterminator type Empire.
i legit had no idea who these guys were, was just vibing and they went "rawr we have a worm hole in your space we will kill you" I just ignored them for few years and curbed stomped em with one 50k fleet (baited their fleets individually since they had like 4 40k fleets)
I've had such annoying experiences with pre-FTLs being enlightened and suddenly demanding territory or having a robot uprising and suddenly demanding territory I go aggressive and just land troops on pre-FTL worlds now. They get to continue to exist and will even get to reap the benefits of my late game utopian abundance living standard, but I got no time for shenanigans.
they kept astral locking a worm hole in my neighbours system after the galactic council declared them a crisis. I spent half the game trying to keep enough military ships to deter them coming through the wormhole, and another half of it trying to get a starbase on the other end of the galaxy so that i could construct a gateway and then jump drive to them.
I think this was in my last playthrough. It may be a different species but I actually encountered a species that asked us to shield their world instead.
I literally encountered this empire on my recent playthrough, I chose the human portrait and just few system away from my empire capital is the sol or the Human Administration so there is two looking human in my game, I thought why the H.A A.I don't colonize the system (cause I thought there's a hyperlane to that system) then a neighboring empire open the their L-Gate or The Wormhole (I didn't notice which is it until they contact my empire) and unleash The Chosen
I chose the slingshot to the stars origin and finished it around year 30 or so just in case I ran into helito, and while I was building my empire I found this place in my space and entered it with the slingshot lol I didn't even get to fight the chosens just went there and there it was
Haven’t been impressed with the chosen. In my latest game they carved out a large swath of the southern portion of the galaxy, but two decisive battles later and they were cut off and pushed all the way back to the wormhole. I got three new vassals out of it
I thought this was an ai empire that sprouted from a primitive, saved them since I was rolling a trade stacking build and wanted the insult buffs and free rivalry. Had to jump in with jumpdrives, just assumed all the habitats were from the fact that they were trapped and only accessible by jump.
i had something compleetly different at that lone star by the way which whas odd i had the cybran feel off that solar system whit the look of a circuit board and whit plasma storms so that star system is totaly random and i had the Living metal in the first visible L-cluster so trust me when i say what you get is totaly random
well to be honest, the chosen usually discovered our galaxy, way before we discovered them, the last few games, and brutal wars were the result. that, or they just withered away from another evil.
The prophetess thought they would find only pain, death and destruction why exactly? She heard her gods voice or something? Unless they caused it they would have been the dominant player on the galactic stage.
I was like even though I usually play determined exterminator I'd totally shield them cause it would be cool and it's a decent forever empire buff, but then I saw the ship damage buff and I literally went "So much for that idea" lol.
I didn't know what was going on with that cluster until later. But luckily their wormhole connected to my powerful defensive pack neighbor and together we dissuaded invasion until I was ready to give them the spanking they deserved.
In my run the chosen began to build the aetherophasic Engine and slaughtered half the galaxy, I was the only great power left as I was a isolationist technocracy and by the time I realized what was happening the engine was about halfway done, so I had to march my entire fleet across the galaxy and when I finally found the wormhole I obliterated the chosen home world and brought there entire population into slavery across my empire
I was showing my brother this game and in his first game he told me "Hey what're these systems I spawned next to that I can't go to" and I went "Wtf is that". Now I know.
I ran into them. I was playing as Halo's UEG (Unified Earth Government or a more militaristic UNE). I waged war and defeated them. Roleplay-wise I decided to make them residents rather than citizens due to their horrific intents. They also outnumbered my population. They didn't take that kindly. I went back a save and tried to make them citizens, still not working. In the end, I decided to purge using displacement. Roleplay-wise the UEG exposed The Chosen to the galaxy and asked what their fate should be. In the end, the galactic community was not in favor of allowing them to be UEG citizens. The UEG was the most powerful empire in the galaxy and vassalized half of the galaxy without waging war. If a purifier race were to become citizens of the UEG, they would outnumber the humans and may push the UEG to commit horrific atrocities. The galaxy wanted them to be removed from the UEG. The Enigmatic Observers Fallen Empire had prior opened borders to the UEG and took many of them with hopes of re-educating them. Others were scattered across the stars and met various fates such as being made citizens or turned into slaves. Now that I know this other world exists, I plan on opening that world up once they reach the space age. The prophetess can rest knowing her people's crimes faced judgement by the galaxy. I will not complete the shield because that would leave them to eventually die behind it.
I had my best playthrough in 3.9.2. thus far. I vassalized 6 empires bx the yeah 2270 , went psionic and started to build my first habitats. Unfortunately I was very curiuos about those two wormholes in my space , but I didn't exoect them to be a threat and never fortified the systems. Then I researched wormholes and a fanatic purifier empire declared war on me. They came in with 100000 fleetpower right in the middle of my empire. They annihilated me🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just 5 days ago I absolutely demolished those guys and took over their systems. I didn't think much of it but I guess it's new lmao. I also found the system that you can only reach with a jump drive, surveyed it and stuff but it costs me 900 influence to actually build a station there so I haven't checked it out. sadly stopped playing though because I could only get repeatable tech and I couldn't find any more bosses or the L cluster ;( Love your vids btw, they're really helpful as a new player.
Dessanus, Prikki-tis, Charyons and Khan's marauders gather in bar. Bartender shouts them to GTFO/GFY as all places are already booked by Prethoryans, Unbidden, End of Cycle and Contingency.
recently i had a game where the chosen were peafuly and even joined my federation but they had another name they called themselves holy Kreshhkes Empire i dont know if its intentoly or just a bug
In the end, it seems like the Chosen's greatest sin wasn't that they were a warlike and belligerent civilization, but that they weren't the *best* warlike and belligerent civilization
It’s only a war crime if you lose
Fun fact: in Sparta kids were encouraged to steal stuff, they got heavily punished when they were caught not because of the fact that they stole but because they were caught, they did this to learn kids to survive behind enemy lines
It’s like the Tau meets the Imperium
@@art-games6230 fun fact: every time Sparta got fiesty they were put back in their place like the weaklings they were lol. Messengers were supposedly divinely protected and after a few years of doing the "this is Sparta" bit they actually were afraid gods were mad at them (because they kept losing) and sent two dudes to the Persians to be executed in retaliation. The Persian emperor straight up laughed when they said they came there to be sacrificed 🤣. Also, when Alex's dad said "submit or if I come down there I will destroy you and you won't rise again", they replied with "If". So Alex's dad came down there and destroyed them and they remained a shit hole forever lol
@@mortache they tried
"If you are the chosen, then what am I?" - Lucius Maximus. Divine galactic emperor, Bane of the Unbidden, Exterminator of the Scourge, Destroyer of the Contingency, Master of the Shroud
"You are but another pest in our galactic destiny. Prepare to be annihilated."
Blow up the galaxy with a hidden Aetherophasic Engine.
“You’re The ‘Chosen’? That’s cute” - Fanatic Materialists
You indeed have been chosen...
CHOSEN BY US TO BE EXTERMINATED!
@@52flyingbicycles "the chosen?" the leader proclaimed, "chosen for what? target practice of my fleets?"
I thought the chosen were just a random empire, I ended up fighting a guerilla war against them because they had so many habitats, anytime I beat them in once place they popped up in another, was literally my Vietnam in that game.
Had a similar guerrilla warfare scenario against them after they conquered half 5he galaxy. Took 3 days for me to win that war
Their wormhole spawned near my empire. I was playing an AI Driven Assimilator. Their biological and technological distinctiveness was added to my own.
had the same thing happen in one of my games bug being an empire built on slaves and needing more i took all their space and pops and forced them to work as slaves within my empire
They spawned in my galaxy when I was playing fanatic exterminators.
There were 4 fanatic exterminators in that galaxy, it had a lot of genocide.
I bet they still resisted, though it was futile.
@@karloxgc45 not when they are chipped with control chips the entire galaxy had no choice but to serve in my slave empire those that refused were turned into raw resources for my other pops be it food or what ever else was needed
The Chosen can be absolutely devastating. They fought two stagnant ascendencies and a federal and a rebellion to a stand still as the crisis.
So, this suckers are sort of special? What explains why those weird *ssholes have that weird special name with the Gaia world capital without the Gaia world preference.
Do you mean a federation?
Funny in my game they got absolutely fucked before the Galactic Community was even formed by an Empire that spawned in their special cluster...
@@inasapostle13thapostleofthe12 you can spawn there?
A np empire spawned there as well during a multi-player game. They got wiped before I vassalized the other empire.
I ran into this. The chosen had one wormhole exit that was stuck behind an isolationist fallen empire. It has become a very angry little corner of the galaxy no one wants to explore.
So they are now space Karen
Love this addition. The mid-game really needed something to spice things up ever since the Khan has basically been eradicated by power creep.
Power creep? What’s that?
@@art-games6230 Power creep aka everyone and everything got buffed/improved but not them.
@@armorking7258 and is that really a thing, does every update make players stronger? Or do we just keep getting better, because if so then we probably don’t want to buff the khan for the sake of newer players like myself
It's mostly due to better civics, origins, buildings, etc. If you're feeling overwhelmed, dont worry, the lower difficulty option keeps the Khan mostly in check for newer players and any buff shouldn't affect you very much.
And you'll get so much more powerful as you gain more familiarity with the game's various systems. And maybe by pausing more lol? Idk how your playstyle is
I've taken to submitting to the Great Khan if they spawn too far from me. If I can't have the throne, then I will make it as hard as possible for anyone else!
That must be the 'M' Cluster. Next we'll have the N, O, and P Clusters
But then what happened to A-K?, destroyed by the contingency while they were observing the main galaxy?
@@art-games6230 Gone. Reduced to atoms.
@@ThatOneGuy_James
"Reduced to atoms"?
That's definitely nanites work
@@L_T31 they went from cluster to cluster but couldn’t access the main galaxy until our scientists opened the L-gates, that sounds a bit unlikely
@@art-games6230
Don't got the joke
One thing to keep in mind about the shielded worlds is that they aren't doomed to DEATH, per se, they're just cut off from the rest of the galaxy, they can't leave their world. That this a bronze/iron age civilization on a Gaia world, I'm pretty sure they're good for another thousand years or so. Hell, depending on how the crisis goes, that shield may be their salvation.
I found the Chosen Ones as eager explores at the start of the game. I thought I could cheese the l gate using the starting jump drives. It didnt work out
Uh oh
I feel like these "extra-galactic" systems do sort of spice things up playthrough to playthrough, where you have more "older than you" empires besides the fallen empires who largely just sit around until a War in Heaven starts.
Much like seeing the Cybrex return, seeing other ancient empires is nice. The Gruner might be a little too depressing though
So this is what that little cluster of stars that sometimes appears outside the galaxy is for!
It's this or one of 2 or 3 mini crises
*leaning in and whispering* “Sir, there’s a second cluster”
Ive seen them once so far. Thankfully the wormhole on my side had 3 planets. 3 defensive orbital rings, plus fortress worlds and a 900k station. They never got out. They just continously threw themselves at my wall. And died by the milliona.
then the ring of steel around the sector did its job keeping the disgusting denizens of the maelstrom warp zone
i mean extra stellar cluster
at bay
@@Nomadic_Gaming It certainly did. For 100 years they threw themselves at the wall lol.
Sounds similar to how I contained the L cluster in a previous game. Another empire caused them to spawn and was nearly wiped out before I joined the fight. I turned that empire into a protectorate and pushed the nanites back to the L Gate. Set up a fortress in the system and continuously rotated out my fleets as an xp farm. Ultimately, the early signs of the crisis appeared so I invaded the L Cluster to make sure all fleets would be ready for the Unbidden.
Did you know that they can't spawn when you have Ultima Vigillis in your game.
not true. the very first game i played following the release of galactic paragons i had Ultima Vigillis spawn in the galactic east and the chosen spawn in the galactic north-west.
@@NotSoCreative_ Its this event
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The second one spawns Ultima Vigillis, the last one spawns them only if you have the first contact dlc.
@@ScorpioneOrzion maybe my game was bugged or something then? It was straight after release so I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility. And I know I’m not disillusioned because I hopped into spectator mode and checked both generations out myself.
@@NotSoCreative_ I think it was first that both could be, but now they can't anymore
@@NotSoCreative_ There was a Chosen here, it's gone now
Stumbled upon these guys in my last game
Though in my game a different empire apparently had their home system spawn in there as well....
By the time the Galactic Community was formed they had the Chosen contained and had a score equal to the rest of the galaxy combined....
And Advanced AI starts were turned off btw...
I legit thought you were talking about a mod at the start. Good to see them doing something like this! The storyline sounds absolutely amazing!
I think having more than two extra-galactic clusters and having them link to each other is really called for. This way there's more ability or opportunity for other empires to obtain power that can rival yours.
In my experience the L cluster is far too overcentralizing in terms of power, you get so many benefits for having it, and it doesn't really feel super difficult to hold. Meaning the benefits are massive and the risks dont seem to match those benefits. This is why i think there should be other clusters, with their own different entrances. As long as its difficult for the player to hold all of that territory, it reduces the importance of the L cluster a bit
Agree,/disagree?
Definitely agree that there needs to be some change to the L-cluster gate system. Whoever controls the L-cluster can port around the map without care, or during a war you pretty much need a fleet holding at the L-gate. Would be cool if you could choose to decommission L-gates, turning them into ruined megastructures that can later be repaired. This way you can ensure you don't have a critical backdoor into your empire.
I think the whole backdoor thing is the challenge in the L-Cluster. Even without talking about MP where holding the cluster will basically set you as a target to be destroyed, I see it more as a temporary buff before the crisis rather than anything, since collecting insights can be very slow, and by the time you get there given your pop growth and industrial power it's not really worthwhile to terraform and build up all the nanite worlds instead of invading another empire. So you basically get a ton of empty resource world and a few free nanites in exchange for a system that if taken by the crisis can bypass and backdoor half the galaxy's empires
MAKE MORE CLUSTERS like give it a whole slider and alot of potential spawn options for them.
this way you could turn a tiny or small galaxy and have it grow into a 500 to 600 star galaxy threw new clusters threwout the game.
avoiding thr issue of "there not enough space on the map" theres plenty of space in small 100 to 400 sized galaxies map waize for 3 clusters in earch corner.
I don't necessarily think we need more clusters, but the L cluster can be op. I think, tho, the AI should recognise this- they should prioritise claiming the L cluster and be much more hostile to antagonists that hold it from them. Currently, they sit like ducks when ye have it
@@tnttiger3079 I have the opposite problem, they'll suicide hundreds of thousands in fleet power of ships attacking it. It's extremely easy to defend if you have a Zroni stormcaster.
In my last playthough, their wormhole lead to the center of a spiritualist fallen empire. Needless to say they were pretty much contained until I jumped into their system.
lol that fallen empire was most likely like, "Um guys, those ancient guns exist for a reason, (Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt!)."
Ohh so these are those odd aliens that i purged after i found them in my rear end of the galaxy
It's interesting that they are life seeded as origin. With the distance between their core stars and the pre FTL planet and all makes it kinda curious to think about if they had been physically placed there prior
Awesome video, and I do love the little flub accidentally left in at 4:54. Montu's videos were always so perfectly enunciated I was getting suspicious. 🤣
Edit: Oh and another at 10:38! A two-fer! 💪
A playthrough set in an alternate universe where the Aetherophasic Engine went off and both the universe and the Shroud fused together into a new realm would be cool. It would feed into the 'Hole in the Void' lore and now any and all Shroud residents run rampant everywhere, while the ascended lifeforms turned gods who activated the machine, do as they please. It is believed the Böotes supervoid was the origin point of the merger, but nothing is certain. Now, even Shroud and Shroud-Empire people form societies together, seeking refuge orbiting around black holes, since their environment makes the only safe place from any angered or belligerant god.
I just found them yesterday and thought they were just some random empire, because they spawn right on the other side of galaxy. I was even impressed that they are as strong as me at that point. Funny enough then I found Ophala near my borders which shed some light who they were.
I fought the chosen in my last game. I was playing as a clone origin barbaric despoiler with the pox bombardment precursor. I rushed and vassalized most of the other empires, including the guys who had the wormhole to the chosen. They were equivalent to me for a good long while. But they never declared war to get out so eventually I just snowballed and laid waste to their worlds while this pops became slaves on my ring worlds.
The Chosen killed me a couple of games ago... fun times.
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I love the randomness that adds so much replayability. I had a game where upon first contact with a fallen empire they saw me the chosen race and began worshipping my race. I dunno if it was just my race type, settling a sacred tomb world or some archelogical discovery or some combination of the 3 that was made prior to first contact but yeah that was an interesting playthrough.
L cluster 2? More like 'L for loser because the chosen are losers' cluster. Boom, gotem'
I feel like the cold open should have been getting out of hand.
That would have been great as well!
So, that's where the Chosen come from. Pretty freaking cool. ran into them as my ACME, Inc. MegaCorp of Coyotes. Threw so many ships at the problem, the Galactic community voted the Xenophile fallen empire protector of the Galaxy who then offered me a spot in their federation since I was seat of the galactic market and home to nearly a quarter of the Galactic population (of mostly droids). Largest two galactic economies working together fought them to a standstill. Then the Scourge showed up. Chaos was golden and I loved it.
Montu, I just love all the stellaris related stuff you publish in UA-cam
I had them devolve into multiple civil and unification wars until a single holy empire with 2 vassals was left, forming one of the 4 major political blocs of the galaxy before eventually siding with MSI's bloc late game when the Egalitarian federation of half the galaxy's worth of lesser powers grew too strong and freed half of MSI's vassals. It was the most politically interesting galaxy I've played.
This is really nice, though they don’t spawn in the game as the chosen, they are a single unified empire that has a civil war and during that civil war, the chosen emerge and gain power. Noticed this in a game I played a couple weeks ago, still very interesting and this video showed more to it than I thought there was 👍
Huh, I thought those guys where a mod i didnt know i had
In my current playthrough I just took their only non-habitat worlds via a stellarite infestation and then jump-drived into their system while they were trying to fight a fallen empire on the other side of the galaxy
In my game they were so disappointing. They never once took the crisis ascension perk so they just got beaten back multiple times by the ai.
Yea, here's the thing, I've never seen an AI empire become the crisis. I've heard people say that they do, but it has never happened in my games.
Can, confirm, my last vanilla game had a devouring swarm take the crisis perk.
@@mister_dadstersays_hi7372 I once had Prikki-Ti become crisis
It actually ended bad for them when FE bullied them,
I was planning to let them conquer and purge then destroy them and not be considered a monster for purging half the galaxy
sniff
In my game they aren't even interacting with they galaxy. They have been sitting in their isolated space for over 50 years, with no attempt of an expansion.
It happens, just had game over when a determined exterminator crushed half the galaxy by 2350. Cant really deal with its endless hordes. More fleet power than everyone else combined
In my last game Chosen had a rebellion and purifier was left with a single system, while normal peaceful empire was born.
Ofc, being unaware of the story, I went “curious, huh” and crushed both of them, but still…
I've been trying to get the terriforming achievement and my journey with 0 empires has had me encounter the chosen so many times as I wait for that Legendary paragon.
The Chosen!
I love content like this, game feels so deep and immersive thanks to it
Can't have any other fanatic purifiers taking my spotlight in the galaxy
Wait WHAT?! I got the chosen during a modded playtrough and I was sure it was from one of the mods! So cool that this is vanilla!
This is extremely similar to the forerunner triliogy, where some Forerunners stayed in andromeda galaxy in a technologically regressed state after their armada travelled there millions of years ago to destroy the last of the precursors. and thinking of that there would technically be forerunners alive in andromeda, even during the events of halo and master chief.
Actually, unless I'm misremembering things, the first test-firing of the halo Rings was to focus the blast into a 'beam' for lack of a better term on the orders of the Master-Builder and target it _at_ the Andromeda galaxy in order to wipe out the technologically regressed Forerunners because they couldn't accept the fact they hadn't legitimately obtained the Mantle of Responsibility, and the Andromeda Forerunners' entire existence was an 'inconvenient truth' that needed to be erased.
Frankly part of me thinks having the Flood at peak strength turned loose on the Forerunner Ecumene was far too merciful a fate for that race of arrogant bastards.
@@internetzenmaster8952 if I'm not mistaken, the Halo rings were used on the prophets (can't spell san-shyoon) home system in the containment bubble, after testing the ring on a human fortress world, with a lot of precursor relics. Faun Hakkor or something like that. If I remember correctly the Master builder was horrified at the idea of the rings being test fired a third time.
I met this guy when I was trying out the ship cost reduction spam in your last video. The best possible free asset for a void dweller!
Brb, gonna go make my new people, the Chosener
The Ophala system takes a full 1,000 influence to build a star base in. It appears that since you could only navigate there with a jump drive that there’s no calculation for reducing influence cost, so it just maxes out.
I once got a world gen of three dis connection word. One L-cluster, one eternal vigilance, and a third system contain a psionic entity and a shroud plant... The third one confused the shit out of me as i remember there were no events on that third system. It's just a shroud world that got turned into a giga world for no reason.
I'm using a mod to start in the L cluster, roleplaying as a determined exterminator (a second nanite faction created to help the gate builders beat the Gray Tempest, ended up destroying them both and barely survived to populate the L cluster), and the Chosen cluster spawned literally next door to the L cluster.
Soon I'm gonna jump my fleets to attack the Chosen, and use their cluster as an alternative branch of the Harvester Swarm takeover.
Hey Montu, ever consider doing an episode or two on the community's 'must have' mods? I'd love your take on Planetary Diversity and Guili's Planet Modifiers.
I found them on the other side of the galaxy. They „claimed“ 1/3 of a 1000 star galaxy. I kind of played the Uno referse card as they attacked my long time ally via a wormhole. I enslaved them all for the betterment of mankind and sated my ally. They stood by me in my time of need, and even if they are insects … they are my Allies and nobody, no empire, no fallen empire and no crisis may touch them.
I allways am loyal to my Allies in my games … I enslave half, ok … 3/4 of the galaxy but I am loyal while doing so.
2 can share the pie, not 3, but 2.
I would love a origin that starts you in an additional extra galactic cluster of say 8-10 stars, and a technology or project to escape into the rest of the galaxy. Set up for a tall empire, think parade in attack on titan but Sci fi.
In one of my games I came across a system that had a shielded planet in it. The shielded planet had a pre-ftl civilization that was stuck in a time loop and the shield was baking the planet. You could fix the crack in the shield dooming the civilization to death after about 100 years or you could release them. If you release them they become a fanatical purifiers. I can't remember the name of either the event nor the civilization but it sounds very similar to this.
The Priki-ti have been around for quite a long time, but yeah, they've always been huge jerks.
I love them
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979Jerks? No they are just misunderstood.
@@TheContingency25x Anyone who starts a permanent war with me just because I happen to be in the neighborhood gets to be called a jerk from my subjective perspective. Those're just the rules =P
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979 Oh. I've only seen then once. That is cool.
I triggered contact with the Chosen by jump driving into the un-colonised system, building a 1000 influence starbase and completing the archaeology site first.
Had a game where they spawned with half their systems on the outskirts, and half in the galactic core. Took a long time to figure out why my empire boarders were so messed up and would not connect properly. Was only later I realised there was a cluster with about 8 systems cut off from the rest of the galaxy with a hype lane extending from the galactic core to the exterior of the galaxy.
I once had Sol spawn in the galactic core in a ring galaxy. That bug really does mess up borders.
@@starhalv2427 I don’t think it’s a bug, I had Systems spawn in the center of the galaxy on console before. Note that it was back when Necroids hasn’t even released yet on console which was a time when bugs were essentially non-existent (at least for me).
@@Zeptus1488 it must be a bug, since national borders appear in a super weird and confusing way whenever that happened to me
9:54 Montu did an Urquan here, erecting a planetary shield to imprison a race. Join the mighty Montu lizard empire as a battle thrall, sign up today!
4:57 bro had a stroke trying to say that 💀
I had them spawn in my game but they weren't the exterminators named the Chosen.
They had completely different ethics and were named Holy Kelsiotan Empire.
Also i for that dig site you can only pick the unity option if you are a Exterminator type Empire.
They're wormhole was next to my capital and half of that star cluster was taken by origin overlord empire.
i legit had no idea who these guys were, was just vibing and they went "rawr we have a worm hole in your space we will kill you"
I just ignored them for few years and curbed stomped em with one 50k fleet (baited their fleets individually since they had like 4 40k fleets)
Ah okay, I thought it was just a glitch with map generation, but it's pretty cool that it's intentional.
I've had such annoying experiences with pre-FTLs being enlightened and suddenly demanding territory or having a robot uprising and suddenly demanding territory I go aggressive and just land troops on pre-FTL worlds now. They get to continue to exist and will even get to reap the benefits of my late game utopian abundance living standard, but I got no time for shenanigans.
"You are being rescued, please do not resist"
@@TamLe-bj2yl bringing them freedom. Space America style.
The Chosen vs Prikkiki-Ti
they kept astral locking a worm hole in my neighbours system after the galactic council declared them a crisis. I spent half the game trying to keep enough military ships to deter them coming through the wormhole, and another half of it trying to get a starbase on the other end of the galaxy so that i could construct a gateway and then jump drive to them.
FINALLY someone made a video about this thing
"But master, I thought I could be the Chosen One!"
I think this was in my last playthrough. It may be a different species but I actually encountered a species that asked us to shield their world instead.
I really like the Chosen. I got them in my most recent game, and the story behind them is awesome
I literally encountered this empire on my recent playthrough, I chose the human portrait and just few system away from my empire capital is the sol or the Human Administration so there is two looking human in my game, I thought why the H.A A.I don't colonize the system (cause I thought there's a hyperlane to that system) then a neighboring empire open the their L-Gate or The Wormhole (I didn't notice which is it until they contact my empire) and unleash The Chosen
I chose the slingshot to the stars origin and finished it around year 30 or so just in case I ran into helito, and while I was building my empire I found this place in my space and entered it with the slingshot lol I didn't even get to fight the chosens just went there and there it was
Always trust a civilization that calls themselves “The Chosen” or some variation. They always end up being the good guys /s
The Chosen target for a planet cracking? :D
That's obviously a drunk arrow making it's way home... not necessarily its own.
Haven’t been impressed with the chosen. In my latest game they carved out a large swath of the southern portion of the galaxy, but two decisive battles later and they were cut off and pushed all the way back to the wormhole. I got three new vassals out of it
I thought this was an ai empire that sprouted from a primitive, saved them since I was rolling a trade stacking build and wanted the insult buffs and free rivalry. Had to jump in with jumpdrives, just assumed all the habitats were from the fact that they were trapped and only accessible by jump.
I found a random single star sitting outside of the main galaxy once. It was just close enough to jump to. But it was probably a glitch.
I need Magellanic clouds for stellaris 2 pls paradox
i had something compleetly different at that lone star by the way which whas odd i had the cybran feel off that solar system whit the look of a circuit board and whit plasma storms so that star system is totaly random
and i had the Living metal in the first visible L-cluster
so trust me when i say what you get is totaly random
This sounds very inspired by the Zenith of Fallen Empires' ancient custodians
0:56 yo lookin that star up there lmao
Interestingly someone posted about this on Reddit and everyone dismissed it as a bugged galaxy gen. I never gave a second thought that it would exist.
well to be honest, the chosen usually discovered our galaxy, way before we discovered them, the last few games, and brutal wars were the result. that, or they just withered away from another evil.
The chosen in my Mp game ended up building a quantum catapult to get out lol
The prophetess thought they would find only pain, death and destruction why exactly? She heard her gods voice or something? Unless they caused it they would have been the dominant player on the galactic stage.
I was like even though I usually play determined exterminator I'd totally shield them cause it would be cool and it's a decent forever empire buff, but then I saw the ship damage buff and I literally went "So much for that idea" lol.
Haven't seen any of these yet but will be keeping an eye out
I actually discovered the chosen once after repairing a ruined Sentry Array
I didn't know what was going on with that cluster until later. But luckily their wormhole connected to my powerful defensive pack neighbor and together we dissuaded invasion until I was ready to give them the spanking they deserved.
In my run the chosen began to build the aetherophasic Engine and slaughtered half the galaxy, I was the only great power left as I was a isolationist technocracy and by the time I realized what was happening the engine was about halfway done, so I had to march my entire fleet across the galaxy and when I finally found the wormhole I obliterated the chosen home world and brought there entire population into slavery across my empire
I was showing my brother this game and in his first game he told me "Hey what're these systems I spawned next to that I can't go to" and I went "Wtf is that". Now I know.
I ran into them. I was playing as Halo's UEG (Unified Earth Government or a more militaristic UNE). I waged war and defeated them. Roleplay-wise I decided to make them residents rather than citizens due to their horrific intents. They also outnumbered my population.
They didn't take that kindly. I went back a save and tried to make them citizens, still not working.
In the end, I decided to purge using displacement. Roleplay-wise the UEG exposed The Chosen to the galaxy and asked what their fate should be. In the end, the galactic community was not in favor of allowing them to be UEG citizens. The UEG was the most powerful empire in the galaxy and vassalized half of the galaxy without waging war.
If a purifier race were to become citizens of the UEG, they would outnumber the humans and may push the UEG to commit horrific atrocities. The galaxy wanted them to be removed from the UEG. The Enigmatic Observers Fallen Empire had prior opened borders to the UEG and took many of them with hopes of re-educating them. Others were scattered across the stars and met various fates such as being made citizens or turned into slaves.
Now that I know this other world exists, I plan on opening that world up once they reach the space age. The prophetess can rest knowing her people's crimes faced judgement by the galaxy. I will not complete the shield because that would leave them to eventually die behind it.
I found one after exploring a worm hole, found an advanced fanatic purifier empire, proceeded to wipe out my empire :)
I had my best playthrough in 3.9.2. thus far. I vassalized 6 empires bx the yeah 2270 , went psionic and started to build my first habitats. Unfortunately I was very curiuos about those two wormholes in my space , but I didn't exoect them to be a threat and never fortified the systems. Then I researched wormholes and a fanatic purifier empire declared war on me. They came in with 100000 fleetpower right in the middle of my empire. They annihilated me🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just 5 days ago I absolutely demolished those guys and took over their systems. I didn't think much of it but I guess it's new lmao.
I also found the system that you can only reach with a jump drive, surveyed it and stuff but it costs me 900 influence to actually build a station there so I haven't checked it out.
sadly stopped playing though because I could only get repeatable tech and I couldn't find any more bosses or the L cluster ;(
Love your vids btw, they're really helpful as a new player.
Dessanus, Prikki-tis, Charyons and Khan's marauders gather in bar. Bartender shouts them to GTFO/GFY as all places are already booked by Prethoryans, Unbidden, End of Cycle and Contingency.
recently i had a game where the chosen were peafuly and even joined my federation but they had another name they called themselves holy Kreshhkes Empire
i dont know if its intentoly or just a bug
The Chosen L-Cluster spawned across my map
I wish there were more clusters without connecting hyperlanes, make wormholes less a clone of gates and more an opportunity for new systems.
Oh thats who this is. I found them in midgame and sent the stellar devourer to their stars for a laugh.
Accidentally ran into the Chosen with Eager Explorers by jumping directly into their cluster... oops
Is this vanilla or some expansion pack? I don’t have distant stars
galactic paragon aparently
You need First Contact DLC enabled for the Chosen to spawn, but they came with Gemini update.
@@benitoguajardo6168 :(
Reminds me of another empire that was hidden behind a wormhole... almost.