the fun part is where they will never use this with runic in the ocg as they refuse to accept that runic can be used outside of turbo stun and then when we get this we probably figure out this is the most broken card in the universe when used with a runic engin
Big issue with the card is that it's a NORMAL Spell, which means its best use is as a potential Thrust target. Runick players can use it to bring out Jowgen to wipe the board or something I guess, but that's going to force them to set cards they don't want discarded.
Do you think you can abuse it with the Invoked engine ? Especially because they have lot of differents Level of Invoked Fusion mosnters : - level 9 with Mechaba - level 8 with Augoeides - level 7 with Purgatrio - level 4 with Caliga
I'd say its a fun 1 of in Runick fur hire as another way to get into the fur hire engine without the use of your normal summon huggin into Rex (or donpa)
Generally lvl4 (Geri) for Planet Pathfinder/Cattycorn to search a firld spell. Degen answer, lvl4, get cannon soldier or lvl1 for telefon Also runicks line up with impcantation monsters that trigger on ss
Card is pretty fair and not broken since the targets is limited to 1-card Fusions and Synchros who can have a lot of options and not go -1 depending on your choice and targets. Can search handtraps, disruptions, combo pieces and extenders. In OCG searching Maxx C or Droll in Predaplants is good since i tried it with my Predaplant OCG deck its good. Pretty much the good targets are on the level 4 or lowers. Is it good? Not now but it greatly boosts consistency in Runick which in this deck can make use of the card very well. In Synchro decks there are too many options that its unrealistic to find one, im still experimenting, so far Chaos Ruler is a good target to search Level 8's since it can recur itself and Zombie Synchro decks can heavily abuse this card since they can summon their Synchro cards into the field again and again.
@@ethanhopper2467 I said i was experimenting. I was testing Extra Deck monsters with levels who can recur themselves into the field as well as do +1's and generate card advantage of just using BM+2Synchro Mats or just 1 card for a Fusion Monster and Chaos Ruler fit the bill while also being the easiest to summon. Still Runick was the king since all they need is 1-card to summon their monster and they can do that with repeatedly as well as having good targets in the main deck that also synergizes with Runick like Spright that extends into more card advantage and more tech options. Chaos Ruler was a good option with the plus 1's and only needing PUNK Engine. Cydra decks also can extend from Fortress Dragon via Clockwork Night to fetch a Level 8.
Hey @Lithium2300 ! I was wondering if its possible to make a special modern GOAT format deck (a.k.a either user modern cards that feel like they would fit in GOAT) or use retrains of GOAT-era cards (a.k.a Magician of Faithfuless, Back Mutation, Fierce Tiger Monghu...etc...)
Noooo. The bystial synergy, while strong and exciting, seems like one more reason for Konami to want to ban magna at some point. As a dragon deck enjoyer, I dislike the thought
@@Lithium2300That’s definitely true. I think the fact it’s searchable with Triple Tactics Thrust, making it a bit less sacky, makes the card fun without devolving to “summon a floodgate on their turn”. It’s definitely an interesting card which I find exciting!
@@Lithium2300true. Do you think a 60 card dark world infernoid deck in general could be good for master duel, as long as you have enough ways to out ariseheart, or at least after ariseheart eventually gets banned? I have used dark world for multiple events in master duel, and I've had some great builds with 60 cards in general. It's REALLY great, especially considering it just never stops unless you are hard countered immediately or you brick/get a bad hand or a hand where you unexpectedly get stuck by drawing the wrong cards mid combo.
the fun part is where they will never use this with runic in the ocg as they refuse to accept that runic can be used outside of turbo stun and then when we get this we probably figure out this is the most broken card in the universe when used with a runic engin
They're right. Runick is just another cancerous deckout strat, and you need to check that ego of yours.
I feel like after Worlds, they had their eyes opened to this style of Deck.
If you can make a level 6 synchro, you can make the altergeist synchro and it'll be reborn after the summon and you'll get material for a Beatrice
Runick sprights live twin is the best deck for this card. The rest they just get punished by ash
Runick Generaider might be clunky but this card builds a bridge between two archetypes that are lore related.
That dark world combo was crazy with plus on hand and board advantage.
Given it can tribute synchros surely there must be some ritual applications with Herald of the Arc Light...
Big issue with the card is that it's a NORMAL Spell, which means its best use is as a potential Thrust target. Runick players can use it to bring out Jowgen to wipe the board or something I guess, but that's going to force them to set cards they don't want discarded.
Oh it's 3 more copies of Rex.
Do you think you can abuse it with the Invoked engine ?
Especially because they have lot of differents Level of Invoked Fusion mosnters :
- level 9 with Mechaba
- level 8 with Augoeides
- level 7 with Purgatrio
- level 4 with Caliga
I'd say its a fun 1 of in Runick fur hire as another way to get into the fur hire engine without the use of your normal summon
huggin into Rex (or donpa)
Back mutation tribute apkallone to summon krawler soma from the deck is value out the wazoo
Something similar only thing is you got to play krawler cards you can easily go level 6 synchro to this engine
yeah soon. Instan fusion will banned too. Like in master duel, not because Kitkallos, but because this reverse metamorph
Magikey could have fun with this if there is a nice level 8 to tutor.
Generally lvl4 (Geri) for Planet Pathfinder/Cattycorn to search a firld spell.
Degen answer, lvl4, get cannon soldier or lvl1 for telefon
Also runicks line up with impcantation monsters that trigger on ss
Dis Pater into RedMd then Red brings Dis back.
Surely this will be the card that gets Runick Fountain banned
Lair of Darkness?
Card is pretty fair and not broken since the targets is limited to 1-card Fusions and Synchros who can have a lot of options and not go -1 depending on your choice and targets.
Can search handtraps, disruptions, combo pieces and extenders. In OCG searching Maxx C or Droll in Predaplants is good since i tried it with my Predaplant OCG deck its good. Pretty much the good targets are on the level 4 or lowers.
Is it good? Not now but it greatly boosts consistency in Runick which in this deck can make use of the card very well. In Synchro decks there are too many options that its unrealistic to find one, im still experimenting, so far Chaos Ruler is a good target to search Level 8's since it can recur itself and Zombie Synchro decks can heavily abuse this card since they can summon their Synchro cards into the field again and again.
Chaos Ruler is banned in every format now so not sure why that matters
@@ethanhopper2467 Not in Master Duel.
@@ethanhopper2467 I said i was experimenting. I was testing Extra Deck monsters with levels who can recur themselves into the field as well as do +1's and generate card advantage of just using BM+2Synchro Mats or just 1 card for a Fusion Monster and Chaos Ruler fit the bill while also being the easiest to summon. Still Runick was the king since all they need is 1-card to summon their monster and they can do that with repeatedly as well as having good targets in the main deck that also synergizes with Runick like Spright that extends into more card advantage and more tech options.
Chaos Ruler was a good option with the plus 1's and only needing PUNK Engine.
Cydra decks also can extend from Fortress Dragon via Clockwork Night to fetch a Level 8.
This card says synchro punk therion
How did no one mention Malefic Trains 😎
I was about to ask if it seems more gimmicky than good to someone else, but I see that many if not majority shares this opinion
If you use this card to summon Obelisk or Slifer, will they be sent to the GY or go back to the hand during the End Phase?
At the end phase you can choose the order of the effects. Slifer/Obelisk effect (going to GY) or the spell effect (back to hand).
Hey @Lithium2300 !
I was wondering if its possible to make a special modern GOAT format deck (a.k.a either user modern cards that feel like they would fit in GOAT) or use retrains of GOAT-era cards (a.k.a Magician of Faithfuless, Back Mutation, Fierce Tiger Monghu...etc...)
Noooo. The bystial synergy, while strong and exciting, seems like one more reason for Konami to want to ban magna at some point. As a dragon deck enjoyer, I dislike the thought
what do you think ? monarch plus diabellstarr seems doable
I don’t see an advantage tho 😅
@@Lithium2300 just small you can discard prime oder panth fe. You summon the witch and lock with an extra omni because she set also on normal summon
I knew this card was going to be broken when I saw it. Both love and hate these broken cards
It’s a pretty fair card, not broken. IF it would have been a quick play, THEN we could talk again 😅🤔
@@Lithium2300That’s definitely true. I think the fact it’s searchable with Triple Tactics Thrust, making it a bit less sacky, makes the card fun without devolving to “summon a floodgate on their turn”. It’s definitely an interesting card which I find exciting!
Pretty fair though, the targets are very limited deck wise. Its also not a quick-play to dodge effects.
@@Lithium2300we got duality and shadow's light. Dont show up in meta decks.
@@Lithium2300true. Do you think a 60 card dark world infernoid deck in general could be good for master duel, as long as you have enough ways to out ariseheart, or at least after ariseheart eventually gets banned? I have used dark world for multiple events in master duel, and I've had some great builds with 60 cards in general. It's REALLY great, especially considering it just never stops unless you are hard countered immediately or you brick/get a bad hand or a hand where you unexpectedly get stuck by drawing the wrong cards mid combo.
Meh. Card is OK in Runick, not worth it in anything else
I doubt its playable in runick as there are so many better things to run. Runick already hates being handtrapped and needs most of its hand to play.
runick/naturia MUGIN > camelia > tree> bamboo tribute summon on camelia. opp locked from spell traps