At 10:41 why did Mkleo turn left before up-smashing? By the way loving this Midwest commentary. Excited but still analyzing the match. West coast does too but there's more hype and emotions, which is cool in its own way
He actually did that once before that as well, so he turned left twice in a row. Maybe it tippers that way, or has a better chance of tipper. I don't know. He did it twice in a row so I doubt he's not doing it on purpose.
It actually didn't feel like mkleo got the tip after the sheild breaker, otherwise he woulda flew way faster and there would have been a pause before the launch. That's what it looked like to me
Looking at this match makes me feel as if mega-man is a good match up against marth. He just flat can outs space him with the numerous projectiles, his Aerials have a bit more priority, and simple mega-man things like patient neutral with a lot of pellets jab resets and a falling up airs can get a lot of percentage very quickly. Of course it's not like marth can't fire back because marth still has a good kit. F-air and N-air are still great approach options as is dancing blade. Not to mention that marth has arguably better kill options with tipper mechanics and rage something like a raged tipper shield break is super dangerous beyond 50%. Also raged counter could shake up mega-man and really shift momentum. But seems like an interesting match up I'd like to see more of.
There is a megaman in my local tournaments that always wrecks me as a Lucina main. I thought it was a tactics thing, but now I'm thinking I should just get a counter pick secondary for this match.
SHADE I agree. Good projectile characters are a nightmare for my two main characters, Falcon and Marth, so I've had to pick up secondaries for matchups like Duck Hunt, Link and Villager. Link I've just adjusted to using Falcon and Marth, and Duck Hunt is a pain, but has plenty of weaknesses, but Villager forced me to pick up Cloud and Fox as possible counters, and even then I still have problems with tactics.
MAJIN Z Villager seems like a good idea because of pocket but he simply lacks a ground projectile like lemon so sh and grounded lemone can just beat our villager cause of his low speed and approach options.
Ok can we please admit that kameme is up there as the best I mean come on! How many times does he have to beat Zero before people say he is better than MKleo
Characters like Cloud or Marth generally has no chance against Mega Man, given the fact he's just a projectile shooter. I recommend players like those to use characters with reflect skills [especially mario].
I main lucina and have lost to really good mega man mains so seeing this makes me feel better because it can show that lucina/marth have a hard time with characters with projectiles
ZeRo got 3-0'd by Kameme at EVO. Diddy confirmed for low-tier. Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? Well, that's the logic you're using there if you're considering a top-tier a low-tier based on losing to the best MM player in the world by far in a matchup relatively in MM's favor.
It's even, but only because to Marth its lolfair2win against low level Mega Man, where as Mega Man can actually capitalize on Marth's aerial approaches and punishing the laggiest ground moves hard. As either character, it hurts them bad if they are predictable. Sounds like a no-brainer, but its so true!
It depends entirely on how well you zone. Marth has to keep it at his range, then he wins. Mega man keeps it as his range, then he wins. It's especially important in this mu
I've never seen MKLeo outplayed at nearly every interval. Kameme is for real.
hardnewstakenharder Makes Mega man move at Sonic speeds lol
hardnewstakenharder zero
Proving why he's one of the best. So damn fun to watch
that weird hug at the end lol
SUPR AWKWRD :-/
Leo didn't wanna embrace Kam xD
Imagine combining Scatt's neutral with Kameme's kill setups... SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT
I LOVE KAMEME
BrickNGames Yes, so amazing
BrickNGames no
2019 and mkleo still can't win to kememe
2023 still seems to be the case
the bait at the end, he threw out the blade but went after Leo with the Bair instead
I like that these guys are having so much fun and laugh after every game. They don't even speak the same languages.
Rayhaku808 One of the reasons video games are the best. They bring people together to play without caring about nationalities
@@mochiboni2560 just like porn.
I've waited forever for this, I'm so happy.
Leo is weak against characters with shoryukens
Shockwave3456 you mean leo
DefinitelyNotEfeo yeah I better edit that now
Shockwave3456 Kameme knows the weakness order.
Shockwave3456
Zapkido lol. I wonder if anyone will get it.
At 10:41 why did Mkleo turn left before up-smashing?
By the way loving this Midwest commentary. Excited but still analyzing the match. West coast does too but there's more hype and emotions, which is cool in its own way
He actually did that once before that as well, so he turned left twice in a row. Maybe it tippers that way, or has a better chance of tipper. I don't know. He did it twice in a row so I doubt he's not doing it on purpose.
Jesse I realized a bit later that it also looks cooler hehe
It might be a tech thing though
soridosuneku pretty sure it's for a di mixup
soridosuneku Thank you :) It was me (Nightwing from Midwest) and Logic from MD/VA. It was a pleasure to cast with him.
MK leo vs kameme? This is gonna be great
2019 and he lost to Kameme again to the same back air lol
At EVO 2019. LOL
In top 32 winner side also
this is the counter to Leo in the Civil War crew battle
yeah seriously. :D
I betcha Kameme is ZeRo's counterpick so I hope somebody reveals a pocket Ryu to deal with MKLeo.
Mr. R has a Ryu, technically. The problem is kameme is the counter to almost half of their team.
It actually didn't feel like mkleo got the tip after the sheild breaker, otherwise he woulda flew way faster and there would have been a pause before the launch. That's what it looked like to me
Mike BLUU I play Marth and I'm 90% sure it wasn't tippered. It's just that fully charged shield break has crazy knock back anyway.
***** Glad I am not the only one!
Mike BLUU yea definitely not tipper
so impressive how kamehame maintains his 0% to keep a guy from doing damage before the respawn.
Just curious why they hardly do any forward and down smashes on the ground....
This was amazing to watch
Looking at this match makes me feel as if mega-man is a good match up against marth. He just flat can outs space him with the numerous projectiles, his Aerials have a bit more priority, and simple mega-man things like patient neutral with a lot of pellets jab resets and a falling up airs can get a lot of percentage very quickly. Of course it's not like marth can't fire back because marth still has a good kit. F-air and N-air are still great approach options as is dancing blade. Not to mention that marth has arguably better kill options with tipper mechanics and rage something like a raged tipper shield break is super dangerous beyond 50%. Also raged counter could shake up mega-man and really shift momentum. But seems like an interesting match up I'd like to see more of.
Michael Hollis I agree besides MMs aerials having more priority
Why would someone dislike this!?
Sonic Cat it was KEITARO! Jk...
Jonathan Parnes MK Leo fan boys that dont realize he lost but still played well
maybe also because "Megaman is cheap"
The legend Seagull in the crowd.
This was a crazy set
There is a megaman in my local tournaments that always wrecks me as a Lucina main. I thought it was a tactics thing, but now I'm thinking I should just get a counter pick secondary for this match.
SHADE I agree. Good projectile characters are a nightmare for my two main characters, Falcon and Marth, so I've had to pick up secondaries for matchups like Duck Hunt, Link and Villager. Link I've just adjusted to using Falcon and Marth, and Duck Hunt is a pain, but has plenty of weaknesses, but Villager forced me to pick up Cloud and Fox as possible counters, and even then I still have problems with tactics.
SHADE Get your self a fast char or a heavy char.
if you ditto MM then u have a counter for everything
villagers a good pick also
MAJIN Z Villager seems like a good idea because of pocket but he simply lacks a ground projectile like lemon so sh and grounded lemone can just beat our villager cause of his low speed and approach options.
you are the Best mkleo
Ok can we please admit that kameme is up there as the best I mean come on! How many times does he have to beat Zero before people say he is better than MKleo
@Joshua Suh greatest smash moment I've ever seen.
isn't he kamemushi? did he change tags?
I hope I'm not the only one who likes to see MkLeo lose. Good stuff to Kameme!
same here. I loved his MK, but I'm getting bored with his Marth and especially Cloud
YoBOB Squid you are not the only one xD
YoBob Squid I'm with you. The reason I enjoy seeing him lose is because of his annoying fanboys. lol He does seem like a cool guy in real life though.
Superpokemaster his fanboys are the worst and he as a person is very VERY inmature and cocky (he is 15 after all)
Yeah sure he is cocky.
But wouldn't you be cocky if you were able to destroy almost all smash competitors at 15?
My Hero
Characters like Cloud or Marth generally has no chance against Mega Man, given the fact he's just a projectile shooter. I recommend players like those to use characters with reflect skills [especially mario].
Emishimaru - Sama No chance is high ly inaccurate. It's simply a slightly disadvantageous matchup imo.
I main lucina and have lost to really good mega man mains so seeing this makes me feel better because it can show that lucina/marth have a hard time with characters with projectiles
11:45 "73 percent" he sounded like Kermit There for a second
The way Logic says Kameme's name is so cringey
birdwalk217 He puts the emphasis in the wrong syllable, not really sure why it's cringe though
mega Man is Beast
That reach tho last game! You go kameme! Good try too Leo :)
Marth confirmed for low tier.
It's true though : /
ᖴᗗᘘᖶᗅᔛᗰᓰᘗ ᖱᒪᕬ ᑤᗁᓰᘙᘜᕠᖱᕢ Lmao Marth at the very least is high tier. Also doesn't Leo also use Cloud and Metal knight, a top tier and a high tier?
ZeRo got 3-0'd by Kameme at EVO. Diddy confirmed for low-tier.
Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? Well, that's the logic you're using there if you're considering a top-tier a low-tier based on losing to the best MM player in the world by far in a matchup relatively in MM's favor.
He's being sarcastic, calm down
Dreadfury yo calm down it is a joke
drinking game... take a shot everytime a player jumps
Kameme didn't take a hit for a full minute 10 seconds, christ.
*minute 40
Did Pugwest retire?
Kameme is my waifu.
Personaje de espada contra uno de proyectiles para hacer spam, muy justo :u
Jeez game 3 was epic
niiice, Kameme
Can We all Donate money to get these fellas a descent barber. these r good people, lets crispn up these hairlines. whose with me
Great stuff to Kameme
mega man one of the funnest characters to watch and the worst to play against
Leo's lack of knowledge in the MU paired with Kameme's experience made this look awful. Leo jumped WAY too much which... isn't a good idea vs pellets.
lemons... *EVIL*
1:33, 10:03, and 11:49
He should of went with meta knight, that asian dude is no joke
Awful matchup for Marth holy damn
ChimeraGilbert False Pugwest and Kameme all think it's even actually
It's even, but only because to Marth its lolfair2win against low level Mega Man, where as Mega Man can actually capitalize on Marth's aerial approaches and punishing the laggiest ground moves hard. As either character, it hurts them bad if they are predictable. Sounds like a no-brainer, but its so true!
It depends entirely on how well you zone. Marth has to keep it at his range, then he wins. Mega man keeps it as his range, then he wins. It's especially important in this mu
buena leo eres un dios
Kameme was so close to getting that 0 to death. How unsatisfying...
LMAO!!
Leo needs a new hair stylist
leoキラー
Leo porfavor!
69 bruh
"Ka-may-uh-may" "saw blade" *cringe*
Semystic I mean, it is physically a saw blade. even though I know it's called Metal Blade in Megaman.
Top 5
1. Tsu
2. Zero
3.Shuton
4. Nairo
5. Kamen
kappa