you know what's funny is that the video proves you wrong. With the right amount of spacing Mario's suffer because of bad/predictable approach options. Ally is good at approaching with shield but suffers if you space him enough, and guess what's the easiest/one of the best spacers in the game? Marth
I empathize with Ally in Mario vs Marth/Lucina matchups. Hard to do much against such disjointed attacks. I think a Corinn as backup would be a good idea.
When someone is butt hurt that ally destroys everyone he supports and finally finds someone who can wipe his butt for him. Go back to your crib, playtimes over
Eternal Spartan you do realise Mario’s best killmove (Not strongest, but least punishable) is UpSmash, right? What Ally did wasn’t spam either, it was just using the move a couple of times, and Mario’s metagame (Which is mostly shaped by Ally, might I add) revolves a lot around heavly using UpSmash.
Salomonster Sorry what's RAR? I'm a Mario main but I been having trouble with sword characters like Marth especially him since he has tipper. I consider him high tier, I think he has the potential to be higher than Mario. Not sure though, any good strategies?
Man! People always complaining about bayo for being cheesy and nothing about Mario's up smash and down throw up tilt combo. This is bullshit, for real, so glad ma boy Leo showed the power of the tip!!
Marth - moves come out faster, stronger, and have more range. literally just attack in the direction of your enemy and you'll have no problem with end lag or spacing. Mario - moves are slower, weaker and have less range. where is the balancing here?
Does nobody else think DK's "Ding Dong" combo needs to be patched out? Imo it's just as bad as pre-patch diddy's hoo-hah if not worse. Guarantee'd combo damage of around 30% per grab and guarentee'd kills off a grab as early as 70%.
Poor Ally. ZeRo and Leo have to counter pick him to beat him. That's the life you choose when you main Mario though. Lose against swords. I think Ally should learn cloud to go against swords so it's even.
DocKarioSmash MK Leo actually used Meta Knight against Ally and could never beat him. He picked up Marth and Cloud later on for certain matchups obviously. Anyway, we all know ZeRo for a fact picked up Lucina just to beat Ally.
They appear unnecessary until you actually understand what he's doing. It's certainly not a simple subject to tackle; however, some simple examples can be found in Leo's set with VoiD from this tournament. Watch the set. Ask yourself, "How the fuck did Leo land so many Cross Slashes?" Then, rewatch it, and pay attention. PPing in the neutral at appropriate spacings is broken with Marth, Cloud, Sheik, Pika and Roy - just as a few examples. Some characters certainly do it better than others, though.
Jerad Berry yeah never mind the fact hes bringing us live content almost weekly and traveling the world in the process so he has 0 to know down time for himself. how dare he!
Oh man Mkleo's spacing was on point.*
Rain Osric yeah, you see him giving ally advice after the set. He had some good tips...
Rain Osric figuratively and literally!
Plot twist: Leo builds the wall.....
of f-airs and b-airs to keep a Canadian out
These vids need some love
"Marth is bad character and loses to Mario. Mario players shouldn't lose to Marth ever. MU is 0-100 in favor of Mario"
-someone out there, probably
you know what's funny is that the video proves you wrong. With the right amount of spacing Mario's suffer because of bad/predictable approach options. Ally is good at approaching with shield but suffers if you space him enough, and guess what's the easiest/one of the best spacers in the game? Marth
Rashyboy05 Lol no one says that
JW Money LOL
It's that imbecile JW Money. Genuinely surprised he didn't comment that yet.
"Sure. Approach me with that "I worship Ally" shit. See what happens, boy." - A Marth main somewhere.
Wow, spacing perfection, every hit was a tipper
1:18 "Ally saying, 'Fu-... What game?" Hahaha, caught himself before he said, "Fuck you."
why is the overlay taking up 40% of the screen? kind of annoying to me tbh
I empathize with Ally in Mario vs Marth/Lucina matchups. Hard to do much against such disjointed attacks. I think a Corinn as backup would be a good idea.
Ally having to run into a marth and a lucina in top 3. Feel bad for him
I honestly honestly only watch videos commentated by TKBreezy and EE... Or Coney where Coney at!?
ew
Chau Nguyen D1's good too.
Ally is my favorite. Much love to both player
5:19
What Melee match is going on in the background
The PM callout
3:57
That guy at the far right looks so much like Leo. Is that his brother or something?
Awesome match! I like that when MKLeo tried to escape a combo with his recovery, Ally punished him with an up smash.
9:40 Esam??
what is the Gimr-PM issue? i don't get it .-.
Andres Trujillo Nintendo doesn't like PM being talked about on stream with their game. It's kinda silly but that Nintendo
ally needs to pull a zero and befriend Leo and play him daily until he can beat him lol
game 2 - when ally starts spamming up smash but faces the harsh reality that when it doesn't work he can't do shit.
Eternal Spartan or maybe... mkleo readjusts his spacing and the Marth/Mario matchup kicks in, and ally has a hard time getting in.
Eternal Spartan dude, stop hating on Ally.
When someone is butt hurt that ally destroys everyone he supports and finally finds someone who can wipe his butt for him. Go back to your crib, playtimes over
Eternal Spartan you do realise Mario’s best killmove (Not strongest, but least punishable) is UpSmash, right? What Ally did wasn’t spam either, it was just using the move a couple of times, and Mario’s metagame (Which is mostly shaped by Ally, might I add) revolves a lot around heavly using UpSmash.
Nada impresionante aquí, solo otro match en SSB 4
So you can, up air after air dodging. And why is upair instanteous???? I'm a beginner to smash this but this is confusing
Wow how tough is it for Mario to get in or at least win neutral against a skilled Marth?
Juan Lands it doesn't look fun, I'll tell ya that
It's really hard, basically you have to be a god of dash shield and RAR to mix it up and catch them when they throw out their moves...
Salomonster Sorry what's RAR? I'm a Mario main but I been having trouble with sword characters like Marth especially him since he has tipper. I consider him high tier, I think he has the potential to be higher than Mario. Not sure though, any good strategies?
Ryan Gonzalez Lol I can see looking at Ally, and he is the best Mario. Any strategies for this issue to make it less painful?
I wish Doc Mario was the way he was in Melee. He was better than regular Mario.
mkleo jugando puro hueco
"Mario isn't top 5"
Damn straight lmao.
No but jokes aside don't fuck with Ally's Mario.
Kazahaki he lost.
I'm aware.
That's why I said damn straight.
Didn't you watch that mario footstool true combo? That shit can 0-death
still need a grab to actually land it lol
somebody buy ally some new clothes god damn
ming mctooter I'd like my own pair of clothes that give me money every time I wear them on camera.
MKLeo looks so cute when he talks xD
time to expand!
I honestly think doctor Mario has a better time in this matchup, he can use dair to gimp Marth's recovery and has a more disjointed bair.
This is channel is totally not shitpost But Marth can edge guard Dr. Mario.
I wish Ally had a secondary to cover this matchup
Does Ally wear anything else ever?
Thomas K well he has to rep his sponsor right?
should've used the fireballs more
*Donkey Kong?*
Man! People always complaining about bayo for being cheesy and nothing about Mario's up smash and down throw up tilt combo. This is bullshit, for real, so glad ma boy Leo showed the power of the tip!!
Are you joking
You better be joking
Marth - moves come out faster, stronger, and have more range. literally just attack in the direction of your enemy and you'll have no problem with end lag or spacing.
Mario - moves are slower, weaker and have less range. where is the balancing here?
Mister_S1R Sm4sh Marth is ass. Bring back the double F air and U air. Give him back his grab too.
崖上がれないときめちゃくちゃスマブラやめたくなる
Does nobody else think DK's "Ding Dong" combo needs to be patched out? Imo it's just as bad as pre-patch diddy's hoo-hah if not worse. Guarantee'd combo damage of around 30% per grab and guarentee'd kills off a grab as early as 70%.
That's why Mario mains hate marth 😊 and sword characters like cloud and most of the other fire emblem characters
DK on the front, but actually Mero?
Wow.
EE got timed out because of PM bahahahah
never ever ever ever never ever never never never ever ever EVEERRRR use dk against any sword user EVEEEERRR!!
Terrible choice.
Why are people playing DK so much?
BeastXI I guess it's because DK can cheese any character in the game with the ding dong regardless of matchups.
BeastXI decent secondary imo
DK is fun af and not too hard to use
He's a very simple character to use and no matter the matchup, 3 grabs, you're dead because DK.
Poor Ally. ZeRo and Leo have to counter pick him to beat him. That's the life you choose when you main Mario though. Lose against swords. I think Ally should learn cloud to go against swords so it's even.
What do you mean "Leo had to counter pick him to beat him"? All of Leo's mains are sword characters lol
Jesse oh shut the fuck up... he chooses to use his character and others choose their own... that's how the game works stop crying about matchups
chill them titties bro. The game also works with matchups, as you can clearly see so i don't get all the rage of shutting him up. lol
allys pulled the strife out before. maybe he will next tournament
DocKarioSmash MK Leo actually used Meta Knight against Ally and could never beat him. He picked up Marth and Cloud later on for certain matchups obviously. Anyway, we all know ZeRo for a fact picked up Lucina just to beat Ally.
Leo is good. does anyone ever get annoyed of watching him unnecessarily perfect pivot sometimes tho?
Eric Shelton no
Just Odis I do, ngga (:
They appear unnecessary until you actually understand what he's doing. It's certainly not a simple subject to tackle; however, some simple examples can be found in Leo's set with VoiD from this tournament. Watch the set. Ask yourself, "How the fuck did Leo land so many Cross Slashes?" Then, rewatch it, and pay attention.
PPing in the neutral at appropriate spacings is broken with Marth, Cloud, Sheik, Pika and Roy - just as a few examples. Some characters certainly do it better than others, though.
great match, too bad vgcbootcamp took 2 weeks to post it
Jerad Berry yeah never mind the fact hes bringing us live content almost weekly and traveling the world in the process so he has 0 to know down time for himself. how dare he!