Stockfish threatening something and preventing Torch from making a move, and then Torch just making that move anyway is the epitome of "Oh no! Anyway."
From the AI videos I've seen from you, it seems like the engines get their advantages not from winning material, but by trapping it. Very interesting and i think players will start to pick up on this idea more intentionally
I completely agree and noticed this already 10 years ago. I use trapping in my game too. Its not completely new i guess, but not so often mentioned or applied. Or maybe its just me.
That bishop was like that cowardly soldier in movies who just keeps away from danger to survive till the end having accomplished nothing while all his Friends died
Stockfish is still so far ahead the competion: Stockfish: 96.5/154 Lc0: 85.5/154 Torch: 83/154 Stockfish is like Bobby fischer the differnce between 1st and 2nd is insane
@@finnmacmanus5723 Leela is basically an improved version of alphazero, what are you on about? both stockfish and leela are way stronger than alphazero was at the time
God, I love the voice Levy uses for stupid-looking moves. It cracks me up every time. It’s like “Knight E7, king to E7, bIsHoP tO h2.” It will never not be absolutely hilarious and is a big part of why I watch these
It is nowhere near taking over stockfish, gotham just shows the matches where stockfish loses, rare but in like 100s of games it obv happens and only with black might I add so yeah stockfish is still the GOAT.
Bro stockfish is just a lightyear ahead of Torch. Last time stockfish finished with 101 point lead against Torch in a 1 vs 1 series. And now it is a multi engine round going on and Stockfish is almost 15 points ahead of Torch and Torch isn't even in the 2nd position. Even leela is ahead of Torch this moment. Nothing can defeat the nighmare fish...
This engine game coverage is great but you should specify what happened in the mirror openings. It isn't really a win if the other side also won as white.
@@rubensoeteman I mean, not even. Chess played perfectly is a draw, and chess played slightly less than perfect leads to white winning. White always has an advantage.
Torch is clearly #3. Updates: Stockfish went on to beat the shit out of Leela and Torch. Stockfish vs Leela : 37-9 Stockfish vs Torch : 50-2 Stockfish is still the KING by a long shot. And for those who are confused, the score is based on how many pairs it won. Edited: Stockfish won 50-2 Against Torch. So yeah Torch ain't even close to #2.
I would've appreciated Levy mentioning at the end the actual ongoing results of the tournament because Stockfish is still ahead with a big lead, whereas this video paints a picture where Torch is a true challenger to stockfish.
Levy: He doesn't even need a queen to checkmate. He knows how to checkmate with rook Also Levy a few minutes ago: I couldn't even explain what this move does if I wanted to.
14:51 - I thought he would say "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" but funnily enough that would adequately represent the forward thinking powers of this bot
Out of the winning games that you've shown with Torch, I feel like Torch often has long term master plans to win, and deep ideas. Often winning by deliberately restricting the opponent's play for a while. Stockfish seems to lack deep ideas to win, but rather programmed to play safety-first chess, but somehow stumble on its own lack of winning instinct. Nice.
Torch hasn't beaten SF in a real match, this is all biased matches coming from the business that created Torch. Torch needs to compete in a real setting like TCEC for anyone to take it seriously as a SF rival.
@@AndroidPoetryAnd let’s not forget any bot has winning odds with white. SF was in the defensive. If anything Leela shocked the world by winning SF with black two times.
Nah, it's still far away from actually challenging Stockfish. Stockfish has a pretty massive 11 point lead in the CCC With Leela and Torch fighting for 2nd place.
I'm I the only one who wants longer videos, I feel sad when the video ends, I swear it's like 2 minutes.. Videos from Gotham chess make me truly happy.
K at 8:47 , you could move knight to a4 and immediately capture queen next turn regardless and suffer the loss of a knight or bishop but gain huge advancment depending on what pieces are forced to be played upon the taking of the queen.
Torch rocks. Love its offensive no nonsense approach. I identify with the bishop that was useless in all of its life in the game against Dragon. Awesome win against Stockfish in the last game. Torch savage.
Where it puts the knight near the start is kinda how I've seen people suggest you should play the Jobava before pushing with G4 if black brings out their bishop
Stockfish would destroy the Torch under the water tho🗣
lol
fr
true
Torch could also destroy Stockfish in the depths of heck 🔥🔥🗣🗣
At least they're basically equal in space.
4:59 “and bishop to b3”
5:56 “king to h1”
6:05 “bishop g1”
6:29 “bishop h2”
Lol
thanks for drawing my attention to those moments
😂😂😂
SpongeBob VA reveal
LOL 😂
For a food blogger, Levy sure knows a lot about chess
fr fr
@@ikosaheadrom Wtf is your profile picture?????
@@Jake_Sherrell it looks like bread with an anime face
@@Jake_Sherrell
Bro good point 😭
he cooks a good horse & castle burger xx
Stockfish threatening something and preventing Torch from making a move, and then Torch just making that move anyway is the epitome of
"Oh no! Anyway."
Nah it’s more like “I tell you what, they better not miss”
So the book is available in both Europe AND Germany?!
Levy never fails to know his geography.
And the UK too
Actually, I believe it's available In Europe and in German (no y).
to be fair, it would be hard for a book to be accessible in germany if there wasn't a german version
@@KaneYork 01:01 literally says "in Germany"
Apparently
US+Europe = Everywhere
BTW, his Spanish with Mexican accent is flawless!
4:50 "Torch just doesn't give a f... It doesn't give an f file." was hilarious. 🤣🤣
Thats what i was thinking
it doesnt give a fffu f file
yeah
Who will win:
- a dragon who spits fire
-a torch likely made of that fire
”Stockfish is winning”
-Stockfish, The Art of War
It would be awesome to see some of these games in GTE. I think Levy would lose his mind
either there 300 elo or 3000 lmao I bet that would be levi's thought process 😂 😂
@@Maxx_6 that's because computers' way of playing chess is so counter intuitive to us mere mortals t
mere mortals 🤓@@tiletapper4ever
maybe it would be interesting if they had smth like 10 seconds each to play a whole game
@@imogene1563dont computers usually instant move
From the AI videos I've seen from you, it seems like the engines get their advantages not from winning material, but by trapping it. Very interesting and i think players will start to pick up on this idea more intentionally
I completely agree and noticed this already 10 years ago.
I use trapping in my game too.
Its not completely new i guess, but not so often mentioned or applied.
Or maybe its just me.
Capture a piece of render it useless, basically the same effect
I love when Stockfish said *I am 3800* and Torch responded *And I am Torch* . Truly one of the Torch moments of all time.
this got me feeling special
I am groot
@@NatalieDemary I just disliked your comment
@@NatalieDemary bro disliked back
@@NatalieDemaryleast bought account
The way he said “bishop to b3” 4:57
And “bishop to g1” 6:04
moving mad sus
Real voice reveal.
Levi is ET confirmed
6:28 bishop h2 aswell 😂
6:29 as well.
On the first game, wasn't it Morphy who said you should only castle if there's actually a reason to castle?
Murphy was 150 years ahead of his time
@@vinesthemonkeyliterally lol
Who wants Martin to destroy Torch 🗣️🗿🇧🇬?
My favourite part was when Torch said “It’s torchin’ time” and torched all over Stockfish
Underrated comment
Torch
people are accepting it now.....
Same
Thank you for posting one of the comments of all time
That bishop was like that cowardly soldier in movies who just keeps away from danger to survive till the end having accomplished nothing while all his Friends died
Survival.... it accomplished survival, dont hate the player hate the game.
Stockfish is still so far ahead the competion:
Stockfish: 96.5/154
Lc0: 85.5/154
Torch: 83/154
Stockfish is like Bobby fischer the differnce between 1st and 2nd is insane
Bobby Stockfischer
I miss alphazero
@@finnmacmanus5723 Leela is basically an improved version of alphazero, what are you on about? both stockfish and leela are way stronger than alphazero was at the time
What do those numbers mean?
@@AnasHartnumber of games won vs other bots (draw is 0.5 points)
Stockfish is like a sensei watching his disciples having practice fights
Levy should be a voice actor
4:59 “and bishop to b3”
5:56 “king to h1”
6:05 “bishop g1”
6:29 “bishop h2”
SpongeBob voice actor revealed
2 comments is wild
Lmfao ty kind sir.
God, I love the voice Levy uses for stupid-looking moves. It cracks me up every time. It’s like “Knight E7, king to E7, bIsHoP tO h2.” It will never not be absolutely hilarious and is a big part of why I watch these
I love this type of chess video where literally any human alive can only admire this games
"Torch just doesn't give... it doesn't give an F-file" Levy trying his best to be family friendly💀
Near the end of the CCC Rapid Semis and Fish is +9 with respect to Torch, who trails Leela for #3. Fish has won 9 pairs, lost none.
6:04 the funniest sound from levy
I loved when torch lit up..and cooked stock'fish' all over the board.!
23:32 Commentary so energetic that, Benji rises from it's dream to seek shelter
Turned stockfish into fish stock, torch gonna make a stew
cooooooook@@Enderia2
"Torch doesn't give an f-file" bro casually dropped this bomb
it's a shame that closed-source software is overtaking our beloved open-source stockfish
It is nowhere near taking over stockfish, gotham just shows the matches where stockfish loses, rare but in like 100s of games it obv happens and only with black might I add so yeah stockfish is still the GOAT.
@@fahrenheit8557 "stockfish is still the GOAT"... Interesting, I've heard of a seahorse but never a goatfish.
Bro stockfish is just a lightyear ahead of Torch. Last time stockfish finished with 101 point lead against Torch in a 1 vs 1 series. And now it is a multi engine round going on and Stockfish is almost 15 points ahead of Torch and Torch isn't even in the 2nd position. Even leela is ahead of Torch this moment. Nothing can defeat the nighmare fish...
Not overtaking just yet, but its getting closer every day
@@-zelda-nah bro it was #2 now it’s struggling to be #3
Torch vs Alpha Zero will be something
This engine game coverage is great but you should specify what happened in the mirror openings. It isn't really a win if the other side also won as white.
It's a win but maybe just half a win?
@@rubensoeteman I mean, not even. Chess played perfectly is a draw, and chess played slightly less than perfect leads to white winning. White always has an advantage.
"Torch just doesn't even give a F file"
The reason Stockfish lost is cuz it didnt read Levy's chess guide
Facts
Bruh he is a bot
@@jamal369bots usually read levy
This bot is everywhere
And yet Stockfish is absolutely taking Torth to the watershed right now in the CCC, 20.5 to 11.5 as of right now, this take seems sus
It looks like he's sponsoring torch, but then again, it is the new engine and is second best right now
@@valiantwarrior1988 Leela is giving Torch a run for its money in the CCC in the challenger match. Torch's #2 position is not certain at all.
@@valiantwarrior1988"sponsoring" it's a chess engine not healing crystals lmao
Torch is clearly #3.
Updates: Stockfish went on to beat the shit out of Leela and Torch.
Stockfish vs Leela : 37-9
Stockfish vs Torch : 50-2
Stockfish is still the KING by a long shot.
And for those who are confused, the score is based on how many pairs it won.
Edited: Stockfish won 50-2 Against Torch. So yeah Torch ain't even close to #2.
U mad?
As stockfish, i can confirm i went easy on torch for levy’s content
edit: why the mean comments below bro it was just a channel inside joke
Just because you smell bad and people beat you with clubs doesn't make you stockfish
As a fish stock, I can confirm I contain protein and nutrients
@@Blinkers2007GameDev😂
Alternative comment title, bro thinks he hikaru
I am alpharius
4:47 "it doesn't give an f file" ...bro I'm dead 💀💀
Lmao the Bishop in that dragon game looked like the DVD logo bouncing around the TV screen
the dust looking thingy next to his face makes me crazy
I got surprised by Levi's sudden Spanish 😂 that was nice
You are not watching attack on titan, it is Levy
Typically water beats fire so the power of broke the laws of physics
The power of torch*
I would've appreciated Levy mentioning at the end the actual ongoing results of the tournament because Stockfish is still ahead with a big lead, whereas this video paints a picture where Torch is a true challenger to stockfish.
He will never do that, as there is a near certain chance that he is getting sponsored to promote this closed sourced bot
"It doesn't give a f file" Awsome
Levy: He doesn't even need a queen to checkmate. He knows how to checkmate with rook
Also Levy a few minutes ago: I couldn't even explain what this move does if I wanted to.
14:51 - I thought he would say "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" but funnily enough that would adequately represent the forward thinking powers of this bot
Levy never fails to mate from the back
torch 1st game against Lc0: torch: my goals are beyond your understanding
4:47 I already lost it at this part xD
😂
"(I don't) give an F-file!"
Make it last! 😂
LMAO "IT DOESNT GIVE A F- THE F FILE"
Torch is a menace but stockfish is still the DAD
SF is the goat
Because he always beats me?
4:47 torch just doesn't give an F file
Thx for finally mentioning, when their own moves start, it's so necessary for this kind of recap!
"Torch doesnt give an f file" love it
i want to skip to stockfish but i want to give levy some money so i won’t skip
How generous
Mittens coming back for blood
Stockfish murked mittens, so torch would be Asian
Out of the winning games that you've shown with Torch, I feel like Torch often has long term master plans to win, and deep ideas. Often winning by deliberately restricting the opponent's play for a while. Stockfish seems to lack deep ideas to win, but rather programmed to play safety-first chess, but somehow stumble on its own lack of winning instinct. Nice.
This food blogger is pretty good at chess, he should consider a career in it
Torch is so smart, it can see the future.
Torch is in superposition, calculating all the possibilities and deciding on the best one.
Every engine does that, Stockfish by far the best.
@@Jartran72If Stockfish by far the best, Then why did it lose?
6:04 i always admire people that turn into gremlins whenever they get excited
I love how everyone freaks out when a bot beats stockfish
Torch hasn't beaten SF in a real match, this is all biased matches coming from the business that created Torch. Torch needs to compete in a real setting like TCEC for anyone to take it seriously as a SF rival.
@@AndroidPoetryAnd let’s not forget any bot has winning odds with white.
SF was in the defensive. If anything Leela shocked the world by winning SF with black two times.
WAIT WHAT@@agarrikr2996
LEELA BEAT SF WITH BLACK?!
that's INSANE!
@@agarrikr2996 yes if anything, stockfish has won many games in pairs, whereas Torch only with white
@@agarrikr2996when you say ‘winning with black’ does that mean leela won the pairing so stockfish wasnt able to win with black but leela was
2:55 Damn gotham the gamer
Torch really cooked that Fish 😂
Torch is cooking stockfish
As a Torch, I can confirm that I see this as an absolute W 🔥
If its a fight underwater always bet on stockfish 🔥💯
1st Game starts at 2:04
Gremlin gotham chess can't hurt you, it's not real:
Gremlin gotham chess:
chessmasters: walking your king to the other side of the board while there are 2 rooks is bad
torch: watch me
Gotham needs to do martin vs the new martin bot that just dropped
Was having a weird old day and this video cheered me tf up. Thank you man.
yeah
I'm very interested in Torch.
It could be the one that dethrones Stockfish.
Well the thing is any bot can win with white. Torch is still far away from SF level.
Leela is arguably second.
Nah, it's still far away from actually challenging Stockfish. Stockfish has a pretty massive 11 point lead in the CCC With Leela and Torch fighting for 2nd place.
Torch is in fact Struggling to get ahead of Leela in the tournament with Stockfish laughing at both with a massive lead.
I love it when Levy turns into a goblin every now and again 6:04
I'm I the only one who wants longer videos, I feel sad when the video ends, I swear it's like 2 minutes.. Videos from Gotham chess make me truly happy.
The weirdest thing about this is that the evaluation bar is Stockfish. So Stockfish is losing according to Stockfish.
Levi always disappoints ❤
The “bishop G1” at 6:05 threw me off hard
Sounded like a vampire
The biggest blunder was not getting the coq au van
I think Torch premoves the whole 30 moves or even more
Torch plays like magnus, completely trolling everyone.
The Bishop to b3 voice at 5:00 could actually suffice as an evil minion imo
6:05 это было страшно
I'm seeing a pattern that blocked pieces, especially bishops are stockfish's evaluation blindspot.
K at 8:47 , you could move knight to a4 and immediately capture queen next turn regardless and suffer the loss of a knight or bishop but gain huge advancment depending on what pieces are forced to be played upon the taking of the queen.
1:04 the best moment jajaj
5:00 Bb3 makes sense as a prophylactic move so B5 does not come with tempo.
torch vs Marten pls
Did you let your inner chess demons out at 6.05
11:07 "Ohhh I damage thier pawn structure, im so clever!" 😂
You could say that Stockfish's throne was *torched*
Nah, levys def getting sponsored
Torch rocks. Love its offensive no nonsense approach.
I identify with the bishop that was useless in all of its life in the game against Dragon.
Awesome win against Stockfish in the last game.
Torch savage.
And yet, stockfish won the match 50-2.
Ohh, seems like Torch aint that strong after all.
I love the on going joke abt the rook sac especially since my own first brilliant move was a rook sacrifice 🤣
Stockfish rematches torch underwater💀💀
I love how Torch just let "that stupid bishop" survive. Took literally everything else, but left the bishop. It was just that irrelevant.
6:40 eric rosen connect 4 trophy
Stockfish dismisses torch deep waters.
🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
“It’s like a Salvador Dalì painting, except it’s a chessboard” What a man of culture 😌
31:13 "Torch just TORTURES stockfish"
Where it puts the knight near the start is kinda how I've seen people suggest you should play the Jobava before pushing with G4 if black brings out their bishop
Damn the further the video goes the more it looks exactly like that lol
Stockfish left bar almost every move: "The hell you playin"
Best moment when Torch said "it's torchin' time" and torched stockfish all over the board
4:47 "Torch just doesn't give an f-file"
-Levy Rozman 2023
4:59 "Bishop to Bee 3"
5:56 "King Aych 1"
6:05 "Beeshop to Gee 1"
6:29 "Beeshop Aych Tu"