I'm hooked on *SHOGUN* (part one)
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Original Series: Shogun
If anyone’s wondering where the rest of the episode reactions are, I’ve decided to leave them as Patreon exclusive reactions due to how it performed on UA-cam.
I definitely didn’t intend on turning this into a Patreon exclusive reaction initially. I just don’t want to post something that could hurt the channel performance overall.
Regardless, I LOVED this show and am so happy I watched it!
Well, i guess i'm not watching it.
Oh... Well that sucks.
Well that’s devastating
youve had several other show and movie series do worse on ur channel. Starting a series then stopping the uploads on youtube because it didnt live up to ur standards is weird.
@@unculturedswine2154 And there's no reason to continue a practice that hurts the channel
Hiroyuki Sanada isn’t just the lead actor he’s also one of the hands on producers on the show. He wanted an absolutely accurate depiction of 1600 Japan, so he brought on historians and experts in Japanese etiquette to make sure everything was absolutely perfect for that era.
Plus, Hiroyuki is not only one of the best and most charismatic actors around but with his world class sword fighting and martial arts skills, he’s practically a samurai in real life. They literally couldn’t have picked a better person for the job.
I heard he also stayed in a Best Western hotel before.
The tiny innaccuracies that do appear are so benign as not to matter, it really is a great accomplishment.
Sananda-san was also a strong voice in the production of 'The Last Samurai' - and a lot of other Hollywood movies that portray Japan. He always fights for a more accurate portrayal of Japanese history and culture in whatever he's involved with, volunteering as a consultant to work with the producers and directors to make the production more respectful and accurate.
If anyone could walk in the footsteps of the legendary Toshrio Mifune, who portrayed Toranaga in the mini series, it would be Hiroyuki.
As a lover of Japanese culture and films, there is SO MUCH to love about Shogun! The attention to detail, the authenticity of the culture, the subtle/nuanced and layered performances by the entire cast, and the intriguing story and action sequences are all a sight to behold.
You’re what people call a Weeb. Ever wonder why Japanese people aren’t infatuated with other cultures?
AND it’s amazing they filmed in Canada. Parts literally oozes Japan yet it’s Canada. I’m so happy when I see practical sets and cast physically interacting with their environment.
A big part to take in is that the higher ups and their actions are interpreted by the common man as religiously ordained by fate, and their gods, to happen. Which oc fueled the generations of Japanese jihads that we get these badass stories from
It’s so cool that you were invited to check out the red carpet premiere of the first episode. Hiroyuki Sawada contributed a lot into making this show.
He is really proud of this show and that was enough for me to check this out
31:46 In this time of Japanese history (and even centuries earlier when the samurai were first formed), wives and female servants of samurai were often trained to fight to defend their estates and castles. The naginata (the spear with the sword blade affixed to the end that Mariko was wielding) was mostly their weapon of choice but they could also shoot from a bow (Japanese bows were a lot lighter and much more flexible than European bows, thus allowing women to fire them as well) and use knives and short swords. There are a lot of legends surrounding female samurai throughout the centuries, and so, while Japanese culture during this time period was just as sexist as most of the world, they still honor and value women's courage and skill when it comes to fighting. Japan has many Joan of Arcs and Boudicca's in their history.
Training wives to use a polearm is actually so smart. Reach and leverage helps to mitigate the strength difference between a homemaker and a soldier, and allows them to stall for as long as possible before death so that they can call for reinforcements.
38:10 Hatamoto means something like Bannerman and is one of ranks among the vassals of a Daimyō (feudal lord).
It also means he is trusted enough to bear arms in the presence of Toranaga -- and that gives Blackthorne both social and military rank.
And that provides insight onto the diving scene. While it is *also* wholesome, it gave Toranaga a way to show off the strength and skill of his new bannerman, and designate him as someone worthy enough to *learn from* .
The rank and status is such that the only person, within Toronaga's circle, higher than Blackthorne is Lord Toda Hiromatsu, Toronaga's main general
@@michaellockhart554 and the old spy. That's a hatamoto, too. Like most ninja. The most renowned Ninja was a Daimyo. His name was Hattori Hanzo, he was a vassal of Tokugawa Ieyasu.
Other Hatamoto would be the guards of the Daimyo's tent. Who would ride beside him in battle. Of course it depends on the power of a Daimyo, how many Hatamoto a Daimyo would have. But in this chase, I would say that Toranaga would have a thousand hatamoto at that point. The historical figure, Tokugawa Ieyasu, had 10.000 Hatamoto after he became Shogun.
@@jarlnils435 Hattori Hanzo is quite special among ninjas. Hanzo is an Iga ninja who was given a castle when Ieyasu became a ruler, but since ninjas are basically secret agents, this kind of treatment is very rare.
In a time when most modern television and movies are found wanting, Shogun is an absolute breath of fresh air.
Toranaga treats Anjin like his favorite hawk. Tires him out, keeps him confounded by blinds and jess, and feeds him from his own hand. In this way, he creates a weapon no other regent has. The book makes the comparison more obvious.
Some fav parts were Yabu being a madman.
Machiavellian as hell
Yep And Mariko is the falcon
Like Natalie said, one could also argue that Toranaga himself is like the falcon. He told his son about how it conceals itself against the sun while looking for the perfect moment to strike at its prey, and he himself is concealing his true intentions/secret heart from everyone while looking for the perfect opportunities to make his moves.
Finally one of my favourite reactors watching Shogun!
I watched the 1980 miniseries when I was in high school, and really enjoyed it -- along with most of the people in the United States.
My mom also loved historical fiction, so we had the book in the house and I read that afterward.
As one might expect, I discovered that a miniseries broadcast on NBC network television in 1980 had to leave out *a lot* . 😮
That said, it generated unprecedented interest in Japanese culture that persists to this day. That all *started* with the 1980 miniseries. 😊
Because this miniseries shows on a subscription streaming service, the production doesn't face nearly the same constraints. As such, it can (and does) explore the highs and lows of human experience, as well as the fraught nature of cross-cultural misunderstanding, in ways the original miniseries could never have gotten away with.
Highly recommended. This is the best thing I've seen since "The Expanse."
Yes. I remember liking the original series in HS. 😀
One little note: you said that Toranaga was taking a risk on John's life when he was put in the prison. Nope. He was one step ahead. In the book, we learn that Toranaga had men in the prison to protect the Anjin & to lead him to meet the Spanish priest. Toranaga knew about the priest, but couldn't touch him because the priest was the Taiko's prisoner, so out of bounds for anyone else. He killed 2 birds with one stone.
34:03 Edo was a major city during this time, some even calling it "the capital in the East" while Kyoto was still the original capital being the palace of the Emperor. It would soon become one of the largest and densely populated cities in the world: Tokyo. So...yeah, what he is saying is a big deal.
In the 1970s and 1980s, television miniseries were huge events that were fully part of the national consciousness. Roots was probably the most famous of all, but Shogun was an enormous success as well. North and South, V (which became a series as well), The Winds of War / War and Remembrance, Lonesome Dove, and The Thorn Birds were others that were extremely famous at the time.
I was obsessed with V. Mom liked The Thorn Birds. I also remember Bangkok Hilton being pretty big.
The theme song for Winds of War still plays in my head from time to time.
Don't forget I, Claudius
Women of Samurai families were often taught martial forms of combat from early childhood. The weapon/polearm she picked up is called a Naginata which women were particularly trained in. In trained hands it can be a devastating weapon in combat even when outnumbered. While most women in the Edo Period of Japan had absolutely no agency those from high born bloodlines were extraordinarily gifted in politics and were very often very very influential advisors to their Lords
You're hooked! As an English Literature Major, and Japanese Religion and History Major I'm obsessed despite the iteration and intentional allegory of the history of the story.
This is a series in which multiple watches per episode are necessary...and worthy of one's time.
Yes, this miniseries is that good.
Great reactions. Looking forward to seeing the remainder of episodes completed.
Gets invited to red carpet says she loves show but puts up half, the disrespect
I suggest also watching the original, which is even better (for its time). Ive studied Japanese for 3 years at University and this series is pretty good. Not accurate at all, but you get a good feeling of what it was like in terms of social components. Also Hatamoto means he is a member of the personal staff of Toranaga which is an insanely high honour
Superb show, happy you’re watching it.
I feel *Blessed* to have witnessed the first 'Shogun' broadcast across the open airwaves, so many decades ago. Also bought and have read/reread the book so many times, it's literally falling apart! Seeing some of the 'Reactions' to this remake has me intrigued. Obviously the quality of the episodes is outstanding, and from what I can tell, they're honoring the book.
Whoa, Shogun is a remake? When’d the original come out?
The book is great (I've read it several times) and the original miniseries is pretty faithful to the book. This new series has been updated a little to be more historically accurate but overall I feel it does a good job at telling the main narrative~ I'm just glad the new series has created so much hype for a book that I love~ Thanks for giving it a go~
As far as I can tell, this is the most authentic representation of ancient Japan ever put to film.
@@hafor2846 🙄 lol sorry, EDIT “representation of end of Azuchi-Momoyama Period Japan.”
Blackthorne's "hello there" really sounds like Ben Kenobi's "hello there" when he saw R2D2.
The cool thing about all this is that this story is based off real life events. And I love how close to detail they have gotten. Even have the beautiful graceful walk, the women do. It's like they are floating.
Personally, as someone who has watched Samurai films, been obsessed with Japanese cinema and culture, "Shogun" is one of those shows that truly deserves all the recognition. Hiroyuki Sanada and the company did a beautiful job portraying their beautiful culture and history for the screen in the most respectful and historically accurate way possible. This show deserves an Emmy!
Amazing! So cool you're enjoying as well. I read the book several years ago and I cannot believe how good they made the series so far.
I can remember watching the 80s miniseries with my parents (Love you mom 💔) and its an amazing show!!
Hiroyuki Sanada has driven the development of this and DEMANDED it be kept as accurate as possible for 1600s Japan! They're even speaking a more formal version of Japanese than what is typically spoken today :)
You're in for a treat with this show :)
In the book and the original miniseries Yabu's ... execution ... of that sailors goes on for FOREVER. It was called "The Night of a Thousand Screams" and its mercifully brief in this! 😂🤣😂
I watched the mini series a few times in the 80's while I was a kid. I don't remember much, but remember the excitement when watching. I'm so happy to see this new version as an adult and having those same feelings. Glad you're reacting to this great series. Was waiting for your video ❤
The first miniseries with Richard Chamberlain is pretty good too, worth a watch.
This show really is something special. I have to watch each episode twice, which I am super cool with. Once to get to grips with the story and subtitles, the second, to marvel at the sheer beauty of if all.
I am SO glad you're watching this. It's been so amazing.
I don't think a show has been able to capture people's attention this well since maybe Game of Thrones or The Boys.
You can tell that the showrunners and whole crew put real love into making this as authentic as possible.
I also liked Yabu in this remake. Great character. In the original series he was portrayed by Frankie Sakai. You should watch the "old" adaptation as well. It's worth it. Seeing Mifune Toshiro at work is just a delight.
*edit* Almost forgot John Rhys-Davies (Gimli from LotR) as Vasco Rodrigues. Also, worth the watch!
Hell yeah! Nat’s watching Shogun.
It’s not that Toranaga doesn’t want power, he just wants to be in a position to hold it first. He just knew that if the Taiko made him sole regent, the other lords would unite and easily overthrow him.
Toranaga’s strategy is to accrue strength but project weakness.
I also got emotional at Buntaro's scene on the harbour. I wasn't remotely attached to his character or story but the sheer respect and honor between him and his Lord in that moment was beautiful. The strength his wife showed was heartbreaking.
Yabushige is easily my favorite character😅 his facial expressions sure everything you don't need to know Japanese to understand
I love how he and the anjin have a whole relationship that's entirely built on the bro code.
Oh man, so glad you’re doing this one. It’s sooooo good!
What I like about this series is that it’s based on historical events. There was an English sailor who landed in Japan who did indeed became a samurai and helped shaped events due to his influence 🤔
Nice catch on that first scene with Toranaga. It pretty much captures the essential nature of his character and overall strategy...😊
yes yes yes, so glad to see you adding this!
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Shogun!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
A superb new miniseries based on my favourite novel 🎉
So glad you're watching this series!
Oh, Nat, you’re in for treat! This show is fantastic!
The opening scne of episode 3 skyrocketed my respect for Toranaga through the roof.
netflix has ruined my ability to wait a week for each episode i dont know what to do with myself inbetween them now
Best show since GOT
Just finished this finally. I have Japanese family and they gave this a thumbs up. Such an impressive production. Great acting. Great story. Great illustration of an insane society trapped in a cycle of toxic protocol, ritual, and blind obedience.
As an old fart I saw the original on TV back when so the story has no surprises to offer. This one is so well done and brilliantly acted you just gotta love it. Fumi winning it all for me. Love her.
This show got me so hooked in the first 2 episodes that I went and bought the book, I've almost finished it, and I'm really looking forward to the final 2 episodes of the show.
As someone who doesn't like sub shows, this show has kept me so engaged and left me wanting more with every episode.
At the risk of repeating another post, Hatamoto translates to Banner Bearer, basically it is a vassal that stands next to the clan leader under his banner in time of war, making Blackthorne the highest ranking person other than Hiromatsu, the old guy who is Toronaga's general
That boy is not Toronaga's son. As this is based on the historical figures, Toronaga being Tokugawa Ieyasu, he fought those who sided with the young prince and his mother. Ishida Mitsunari, in this show Lord Ishido, lost the battle of Sekigahara and disappeared. 15 years later, Tokugawa Ieyasu attacked Osaka and after a long and bloody siege, the prince and his mother died, with most of their followers.
Your comments on the theme in the 1st episode (only one I've seen so far) of facing death are spot on, actually. I hadn't thought about it but it's touched on very frequently in the episode in all of the storylines. Rather humourously you even have the Catholic priest (?) facing away (ie unaware) of his own death.
Toranaga's real historical counterpart, Tokugawa Ieyasu, was a lieutenant of the "Taiko" Toyotomi Hideyoshi, who had risen as high as he could in Japan, but didn't have the proper lineage to become shogun. Instead, on his deathbed, Hideyoshi asked Tokugawa to look after his infant son until he came of age and could take command. Tokugawa agreed and then essentially held the child as a prisoner while he consolidated his own power in a bid to become shogun. Tokugawa made the promise to Hideyoshi with no intention of letting the son rule. A heated war broke out between Tokugawa's new allies (the East) and those loyal to Hideyori, Hideyoshi's son (the West). The deciding battle was the Battle of Sekigahara with 15 more years of siege containment of Osaka Castle and the Toyotomi forces before Tokugawa finally won undisputed control of Japan and gained the title of shogun (having been born within the Minamoto family tree, unlike Hideyoshi).
It was a tv series in 1980 I saw it
TBH I am a huge fan of the 1980 Mini Series. This series is well done, but the additional information of the original makes much more sense at what is happening in the show. As a side note I actually learned to understand and speak some basic Japanese, as Mariko was teaching Anjin-san in the original.
24:26 You have to realize that, while there is a system of honour, there is also a system of people maintaining their own agendas. Also, this wasn't the information age where word travels fast. So, it's easier to control information. Toranaga didn't even know about this treaty until he asked Blackthorne about the world. This is really good show about how misinformation is used to destabilize basically the shogunate, be it for someone's personal reasons or otherwise.
Edit: In the end, Toranaga was wise to use Blackthorne as a distraction, because he knew that Blackthorne's presence was enough of a distraction.
Blackthorne isn’t trying to claim Japan for England. He works for the Dutch East India Company (VOC) to open up trade with Japan. Historically, the VOC indeed displaced the Portuguese for the next few hundred years.
A spy performs seppuku in a...dramatic fashion. He was the third of three. After the first 2 are able to perform with a 2nd, the last guy asks his opponent to act as 2nd.
kinda random but I just wanted to say thank you natalie. you don't know me but I just wanted you to know how much your reactions have helped me. I've been having a hard adjustment time in the military and with friends leaving your lively reactions have been one of the biggest helps in making my days a little less quiet because of how it feels like we as the viewers are watching it right there with you. please dont ever stop creating content :))
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Absolutely loving this show so far. 3 episodes in. 😊
I loved the book, was too young to remember the mini series, can't wait to buy it on disc, and love your reaction.
Great stuff - you are SO the right person to react to "Shogun!"
A beautiful intelligent "slightly expressive" young woman I've been subscribed to for years... can't think of a better person to review this new series I'm in love with ❤❤❤
In the 80's mini serie all the scenes where Japaneses speak amongs themselves are not subtitled or translated in order for the audience to feel like the main character: lost in an unknown coutry!
It stays pretty true to the novel - which you should totally read, it's a big fat pill to get through but it's a pretty rewarding read.
I'm hooked on the show, the official podcast is also worth listening to about how they put the show together and level of care and love for the original material and to make it as authentic as possible.
show is soo good
This is among the best shows of 2024
The mini series as well as the book is/was AAAA....MAZING!❤
I know you're too young to have seen that, but you should really read the book as well 😘
Thank you for watching this series.
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“Yes. But there are mitigating circumstances. Serious miti-”
“There are no ‘mitigating circumstances’ when it comes to rebellion against a sovereign lord.”
“Unless you win.”
Toranaga looked intently at him. Then laughed uproariously. He said something to Hiro-matsu through his laughter and Hiro-matsu nodded”
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The Captain-sama's ship and crew are likely in as much danger as Blackthorn because they helped Toranaga escape. Osaka would be a bad place for them to be for a while.
Loved your commentary and reaction to Shogun. Will be back for more. Keep up the great work.
Always remember the falcon comment. No person but Toranaga knows what Toranaga has planned.
The 80 version was good for 80 series… worth of watching also. If you can stand 80 TV series pacing and low budget.
This new one… yeah! Golden!
Such a good show....and....Mariko 😍😍
Whenever I see them throwing the guy in the pot, I can't help but think of the Bugs Bunny cartoon where he's being made into soup.
Lame af that it's being locked behind patreon after uploading the 1/3. Like why even bother at that point. When you're in it for the money I guess there's a loss of interest in actually doing something for the viewers.
Such a great series, would recommend seeing Akira Kurosawa's "Kagemusha" (produced by George Lucas), or even the classic, Seven Samurai.
_Ran_ is also a must-watch
I love the game "Ghost of Tsushima" and it looks a lot like that. Granted this is actually Japan and set 400 years after the events of the game. Love their culture and traditions that it looks like not much has changed in the way they do things or even how the armor looks in 400 years.
Watching it as well, but in English dub at least for the first time.
A lot did change between the Mongol invasions and the Sengoku Jidai. It's just that Ghost of Tsushima just used all the modern day stereotypes about Samurai in the game.
It looks like nothing has changed because actually, the Shogun series has period accurate stuff (if a bit early) and Ghost of Tsushima has period inaccurate things all over.
Easiest example is that Katanas didn't really exist for at least 100 years after the events of the game.
And don't get me wrong, I love the game. But it's about as accurate as "300" is an accurate portrayal of the battle of Greeks vs Persians.
‘Shogun’ was the first book I’ve read that was over 1000 pages.
I can’t wait for the reaction to episode 4
Your stuff is so well done the edits and the fact that I love your reactions 🤙🏽I’m so proud of my Asian stars really shining I saw the original and read the book in high school 😂
How weird is it that Bill Wurtz's "Entire History of Japan, I Guess" makes me feel like I understand the politics in this series.
Very weird
You probably won't, but you also should watch the old miniseries. I like it more in several points compared to the new series (John and Mariko's relationship and Rodrigues for example), though the new one definitely looks better. Let's see how this one turns out towards the end.
Shogun was filmed on Vancouver Island in Canada.
I saw first time Tadanobu Asano in a movie called ''Mongol''. He is great actor.
I remember watching the original Shogun series in 1980. I'll be curious to see if they change anything.
Love the old one from long ago. Happy that y'all new generation get to see it. Hopefully you will check out the original. Everyone stays safe and blessed much love from San Antonio
I started following you for some time, I love your reactions and videos, I'm glad you react to this series.
I have read the book many times since I first did in 1975, one of my favourite re-reads.
I love how every important decision Balckthorne makes in the show starts with a good old British F*ck it.
I was so disappointed they didn't use the original soundtrack.
I love how in the close caption they put (in english) but they are supose to be speaking portuguese 😂😂
hi wavy was mini series in 80's was awsome =0
Been waiting on this one ever since you said that you were excited going to the premiere and thought the series was gonna be a good one
Hi natalie, i was Wondering if u ever watched, inside out fron disney Pixar, Its so good
30% of war dead from this era were women, so they would fight along side men. Hatamoto is an upper bannermen, a great honor.