informative, I just got a steel cable winch. Just wanted something i didn't have to maintain as much and as long as you practice proper safety a Break shouldn't result in injury. Knowing paths of destruction can be big. Largest failure points are usually in Snatch straps or Tree savers. They can dry out with age and lose elasticity. My line of thinking was sometimes the danger is not just in a cable breaking but a vehicle tumbling down a hill in a nasty recovery situation and since recovery situation can be unpredictable going with something you have more confidence in not breaking would be what i am looking for. Basically Choosing Risk of damage to get more longevity and durability with a increased chance of successful recovery.
I've had nothing but bad experiences with the synthetic rope would definitely recommend wire cable if you live in colder climates and if you do a lot of rocky/mud terrain winching I've never had any issues with my cables the winch will break before the cable will I have pictures to prove that LOL so I'll definitely recommend wire cable over synthetic rope, it's only dangerous if you're not safe and make sure the whatever you are hooking it to is this a secure/solid point for winching, I've seen people do it carelessly and putting the winch hook on unsecure places resulting in injury from bumpers and other things coming undone,flying off the vehicles not the winch cables fault, That's users error I try not to stay in my vehicle while wishing winching someone out if I have the option ill stand behind a tree away from the path of the cable just in case its a safer spot lol I've seen what can happen 😂
Ive got both and i prefer steel due to rugged reliability. Synthetic is light and easy to handle but easy to damage and break. Ill take tough over easy anyday.
A: plastic rope will snapback. it does not just drop. but not as bad as proper steel cable. ( yes there is junk steel, and plastic rope out there.). buy only quality. B: plastic rope will not survive outdoors like steel cable does. aka out in the weather all year long. C: no cable or rope can survive sharp angles, but steel cable will fare better. D: under load the hausley farelead can melt the plastic rope. on the first pull. thus making it trash. E: steel cable is just as good with some minor kinks. the rope needs to be repaired if such is on it.
At the end of the day, it is all about personal choice. Some guys will choose the easy route and take cable because it is familiar territory and for various reasons they think it is better. Some will choose dyneema because they feel it is the superior route and are willing to go through the few extra hoops it takes to use it. Both have their pros and cons. Personally, I choose dyneema.
Yes synthetic line does. If you don't keep it covered the Arizona sun will eat synthetic line up. And I'd also like to know is how does stainless steel line rust?
Be Kind and Grease Your line.. Synthetic line with dirt in it will fray a lot sooner then steel. As well a dirty Fabric line looses half it's strength when dirty.
Everyone says cable winches are dangerous but they are still 1000 times safer than having someone else pull you out. So even if all you can afford is a cable winch and you go off-road a lot then get it!!!
For the price and quality it's tough to beat Harbor Freights Apex Badlands 12k winch. I suggest waiting for one of the 20 or 30% off coupons for the best deal which they offer quite frequently. Even at $600 it's still a great deal. Comes with synthetic rope, aluminum fairlead and wireless or wired option if the batteries go dead.
I have a atv winch . Mostly use the winch for snow plowing. So obviously snow ice and possibly rock salt and what the town uses to melt the road. What is your recommendation wire or synthetic? Thanks
Definitely use steel cable I put a synthetic rope on my Polaris sportsman 570 and of my friends got stuck in the winter time while it was snowing and I went to winch him out and my rope broke thank goodness I had a aspire steel Cable in my box just in case I was able to spool it on and pull him out so if you're in quartered climates I'll recommend a steel cable because the synthetic rope will retain water freeze and then break when you go to use it
Hi hope you guys can give me some advice. I have a 2020 F150 5L. I installed a westin bush bumper and winch plate. I want to install a winch but heard that I need to strengthen the front suspension. Is it true? Then is it worth getting a winch? And I want to get a 12 500lbs winch. With the push bar grill guard it dropped my front end 5mm so would love some advice and input. Thanks guys.
interesting second point on the stainless cable. Probably 10 years ago we were in the market for a new boat winch cable for our 27 footer. We were looking at the stainless option due to the salt environment. low and behold the place recommended against it stating it wont last as long as the gal cable. memory a bit vague here, but it was to do with the steel tensile rating, stainless having the higher tensile got weaker quicker from all the bending around the winch drum. Well we believed him for the fact he talked himself out of a big price difference into the cheaper option.
Warn is Chinese made trash and overpriced as hell. "Galvanized" is a fancy way of saying they put some rust inhibitor on the wire. It's still steel wire at the end of the day, I don't care if it's used in aircraft or not. Doesn't make up for their pos overpriced winches. They used to be the standard. Now, I can buy a winch at HF that does a better job and lasts years longer for half the cost. Just my two cents. Yes, I absolutely hate warn because a warn winch left a buddy of mine in the shit. Winch quite working and it had only been on the Yeep 6 months. He lost three fingers to frostbite before we finally found him. So yeah, fuq a pos warn.
informative, I just got a steel cable winch. Just wanted something i didn't have to maintain as much and as long as you practice proper safety a Break shouldn't result in injury. Knowing paths of destruction can be big. Largest failure points are usually in Snatch straps or Tree savers. They can dry out with age and lose elasticity. My line of thinking was sometimes the danger is not just in a cable breaking but a vehicle tumbling down a hill in a nasty recovery situation and since recovery situation can be unpredictable going with something you have more confidence in not breaking would be what i am looking for. Basically Choosing Risk of damage to get more longevity and durability with a increased chance of successful recovery.
I've had nothing but bad experiences with the synthetic rope would definitely recommend wire cable if you live in colder climates and if you do a lot of rocky/mud terrain winching I've never had any issues with my cables the winch will break before the cable will I have pictures to prove that LOL so I'll definitely recommend wire cable over synthetic rope, it's only dangerous if you're not safe and make sure the whatever you are hooking it to is this a secure/solid point for winching, I've seen people do it carelessly and putting the winch hook on unsecure places resulting in injury from bumpers and other things coming undone,flying off the vehicles not the winch cables fault, That's users error I try not to stay in my vehicle while wishing winching someone out if I have the option ill stand behind a tree away from the path of the cable just in case its a safer spot lol I've seen what can happen 😂
Ive got both and i prefer steel due to rugged reliability. Synthetic is light and easy to handle but easy to damage and break. Ill take tough over easy anyday.
Another great video! What are your top 3 synthetic winch line options and why?
A: plastic rope will snapback. it does not just drop. but not as bad as proper steel cable. ( yes there is junk steel, and plastic rope out there.). buy only quality.
B: plastic rope will not survive outdoors like steel cable does. aka out in the weather all year long.
C: no cable or rope can survive sharp angles, but steel cable will fare better.
D: under load the hausley farelead can melt the plastic rope. on the first pull. thus making it trash.
E: steel cable is just as good with some minor kinks. the rope needs to be repaired if such is on it.
At the end of the day, it is all about personal choice. Some guys will choose the easy route and take cable because it is familiar territory and for various reasons they think it is better. Some will choose dyneema because they feel it is the superior route and are willing to go through the few extra hoops it takes to use it. Both have their pros and cons. Personally, I choose dyneema.
Humm. 10# weight saving on a bumper that must weight 150#s.
There's that beautiful ARB stubby!
Yes synthetic line does. If you don't keep it covered the Arizona sun will eat synthetic line up. And I'd also like to know is how does stainless steel line rust?
If you maintain it, pull it out, inspect and grease, will last a while, longer than synthetic.
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so every time it rains do you unspool and dry out the synthetic cable?
thats a good question
Be Kind and Grease Your line.. Synthetic line with dirt in it will fray a lot sooner then steel. As well a dirty Fabric line looses half it's strength when dirty.
Everyone says cable winches are dangerous but they are still 1000 times safer than having someone else pull you out. So even if all you can afford is a cable winch and you go off-road a lot then get it!!!
I went with a steel line wench and purchased a new fairlead and synthetic cable for less than buying a wench already synthetic.
Thank you! Exactly what I need to know!
Glad it was helpful!
@@CJBroncoF150 ,,What about treating the synthetic cable with WD40 ?? any idea??
You can buy synthetic dyneeme cheaper than cable. Its what I use
In your opinion what would be the best budget winch that is reliable?
For the price and quality it's tough to beat Harbor Freights Apex Badlands 12k winch. I suggest waiting for one of the 20 or 30% off coupons for the best deal which they offer quite frequently. Even at $600 it's still a great deal. Comes with synthetic rope, aluminum fairlead and wireless or wired option if the batteries go dead.
Thanks,, Very helpful video.. great job.. love it.!!!
I have a atv winch . Mostly use the winch for snow plowing. So obviously snow ice and possibly rock salt and what the town uses to melt the road. What is your recommendation wire or synthetic? Thanks
Definitely use steel cable I put a synthetic rope on my Polaris sportsman 570 and of my friends got stuck in the winter time while it was snowing and I went to winch him out and my rope broke thank goodness I had a aspire steel Cable in my box just in case I was able to spool it on and pull him out so if you're in quartered climates I'll recommend a steel cable because the synthetic rope will retain water freeze and then break when you go to use it
Hi hope you guys can give me some advice. I have a 2020 F150 5L. I installed a westin bush bumper and winch plate. I want to install a winch but heard that I need to strengthen the front suspension. Is it true? Then is it worth getting a winch? And I want to get a 12 500lbs winch. With the push bar grill guard it dropped my front end 5mm so would love some advice and input. Thanks guys.
what bumper is on the green jeep at the beginning? i really like it
It looks like the Fishbone Midwidth bumper.
Synthetic rope wpild be a disaster in mud
Get your facts straight. Warn uses galvanized steel aircraft wire in their winches, NOT stainless steel wire.
interesting second point on the stainless cable. Probably 10 years ago we were in the market for a new boat winch cable for our 27 footer. We were looking at the stainless option due to the salt environment. low and behold the place recommended against it stating it wont last as long as the gal cable. memory a bit vague here, but it was to do with the steel tensile rating, stainless having the higher tensile got weaker quicker from all the bending around the winch drum.
Well we believed him for the fact he talked himself out of a big price difference into the cheaper option.
Warn is Chinese made trash and overpriced as hell. "Galvanized" is a fancy way of saying they put some rust inhibitor on the wire. It's still steel wire at the end of the day, I don't care if it's used in aircraft or not. Doesn't make up for their pos overpriced winches. They used to be the standard. Now, I can buy a winch at HF that does a better job and lasts years longer for half the cost. Just my two cents.
Yes, I absolutely hate warn because a warn winch left a buddy of mine in the shit. Winch quite working and it had only been on the Yeep 6 months. He lost three fingers to frostbite before we finally found him. So yeah, fuq a pos warn.
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