Super helpful video. Did not know about the taxi and the observations about food are invaluable for anyone planning a 1 day R2R2R hike. Personally though, training on a treadmill sounds worse than Rhabdo...you're a beast!
Thanks @trailvoyant ! Glad you found some of the tips helpful. Yes, the treadmill training got old. One thing I did to make it more bearable was watching videos of other people hiking the Canyon (or other big hikes). Next time, I'll temporarily relocate to Arizona for better weather, and use your hiking guides to find conditioning trails!
Thanks for the video and helpful tips. I would,appreciate a separate video on your issues and what symptoms etc made you aware that turning around was the right choice.
@@youcsb thanks! I'll put that together, although symptoms didn't really hit until after I'd made it to the hospital. The decision to turn around mostly was luck/my unconscious telling me to. I thought at the time I was just tired from a strenuous hike.
Love all of these tips - so helpful. The Grand Canyon is just such a different animal. I've spent so much time in there and I'm always humbled by what this landscape offers. I'd love to try the r2r2r one day so I'll be saving this!
@@megintheforestoutdoors I'd love to hear your GC tips. You've done a lot more in the canyon than I have. I'd like to get off the main trans-canyon corridor and explore more.
Thanks for the video and the tips. I read from an experienced hiker to help with training for hiking downhill is to use an elliptical by going backwards. You are using different muscles. It was super helpful since I live where we don't have mountains. The Cuyahoga Valley National Park near us is great with some large hills but nothing like out west.
@rickskidmore3075 thanks for watching and the good advice. It's rainy season again here, so sounds like i need to jump on an elliptical! (And also add lunges and squats). Happy hiking and training to you!
I just did south kaibab trail to phantom ranch yesterday. Took me 7 hours to do the round trip. It was awesome. But my only struggle was coming back at the last mile my legs were starting to cramp up. I stopped foe a bit and rested and made it back fine. I definitely want to do it again it was great challenge. I stayed at grand canyon plaza. Pretty decent place and great experience.
@@davidsteiner7848 congrats on your hike! I've never gone up South Kaibab - props on the extra elevation! And, thanks for the intel on the Grand Canyon Plaza. I hope you get to do it again soon! Maybe I'll see you on the trail :)
I re-watched the original video and was again impressed by the video quality. What camera did you use? I also noted you announced you were slowing down and the multiple times you mentioned being tired. It seems that such thoughts are the body warning the mind that this is getting serious.
@DouglasKubler I filmed it all on my Samsung S24 Ultra (intentionally got it for the cameras). Good call out on my saying I was tired. At the time I chalked it up to the early morning, little sleep, and not being in peak shape (probably all still true) but also good to recognize there was something underlying. Thank you for watching, your observations, and comments!
Thank you for this wonderful video. I appreciate all of your information and knowledge. So do you think your condition on the last R2R was caused by lack of electrolytes, and not as much training as you would have liked to have had? What else do you think attributed to that? Thanks again for everything. Great video.
I think lack of downhill conditioning played a role, but that's only a guess based off which muscles were affected. I've had two separate doctors say it just wasn't my day, and any number of things could have played in to the point where a day earlier or later and I probably would have been fine. That said, before I try again in the future, I'll do a lot more downhill, and will plan to lose my extra pounds so I'm not carrying that weight. And, definitely a bit more hydration.
I have done an R2R2R. It took me 15 hrs to go the 42 miles. I went down and up S Kaibab. I stayed away from Bright Angel. Some input.....150-200 calories/ hr. 20-24 oz of water with electrolyte tab dropped in. It's very easy to drop an electrolyte tab into a water bladder! Just fill with water and drop the tab in. An extra bottle just for electrolyte water is wasted weight. There is water available on the trail approx every 7 miles. No need to carry more than 2 liters. Carry calorically dense food. Sugar based burns too quickly. Get the best bang for the buck by using high calorie, high fat stuff, like nuts, nut butters, some cookies that are high in fat content. Avoid gels as they supply only a very quick burst of energy from the sugar hit then they are gone. Carbs only have 4 cal/gram. Fat gas 9 cal/ gram. Sugar is like burning newspaper. Fat is like burning an oak log. Also, very critical... protein must be consumed! 5 to 10 grams/hr. This is key. Easy to use foods that are high in cal/oz, have good fat content, and have protein. Thank you for your video.
Congrats on our R2R2R and thanks for your thoughts and tips. On the water front, the pipeline was out, so there was not reliable water. I consume more water than the average person, so 3 liters was a necessity for me (and I like having my electrolytes separate from my main water bladder). Always good to hear what works for others, both so I can fine tune my approaches, and for those reading this who may have different needs/styles than how I choose to hike. Happy happy trails to you!
Super helpful video. Did not know about the taxi and the observations about food are invaluable for anyone planning a 1 day R2R2R hike.
Personally though, training on a treadmill sounds worse than Rhabdo...you're a beast!
Thanks @trailvoyant ! Glad you found some of the tips helpful.
Yes, the treadmill training got old. One thing I did to make it more bearable was watching videos of other people hiking the Canyon (or other big hikes).
Next time, I'll temporarily relocate to Arizona for better weather, and use your hiking guides to find conditioning trails!
Thanks for the video. I've done this hike before, and I love your comment about saying a prayer for wisdom and a mindset of safety!
Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope your hike was absolutely amazing! I'll be starting all my hikes with that prayer from now on :)
Awesome!
Thanks! And thanks for all your help after the Canyon! I'm lucky to call you and the crew friends!
Thanks for the video and helpful tips. I would,appreciate a separate video on your issues and what symptoms etc made you aware that turning around was the right choice.
@@youcsb thanks! I'll put that together, although symptoms didn't really hit until after I'd made it to the hospital. The decision to turn around mostly was luck/my unconscious telling me to. I thought at the time I was just tired from a strenuous hike.
Love all of these tips - so helpful. The Grand Canyon is just such a different animal. I've spent so much time in there and I'm always humbled by what this landscape offers. I'd love to try the r2r2r one day so I'll be saving this!
@@megintheforestoutdoors I'd love to hear your GC tips. You've done a lot more in the canyon than I have. I'd like to get off the main trans-canyon corridor and explore more.
Thanks for the video and the tips. I read from an experienced hiker to help with training for hiking downhill is to use an elliptical by going backwards. You are using different muscles. It was super helpful since I live where we don't have mountains. The Cuyahoga Valley National Park near us is great with some large hills but nothing like out west.
@rickskidmore3075 thanks for watching and the good advice. It's rainy season again here, so sounds like i need to jump on an elliptical! (And also add lunges and squats). Happy hiking and training to you!
I just did south kaibab trail to phantom ranch yesterday. Took me 7 hours to do the round trip. It was awesome. But my only struggle was coming back at the last mile my legs were starting to cramp up. I stopped foe a bit and rested and made it back fine. I definitely want to do it again it was great challenge. I stayed at grand canyon plaza. Pretty decent place and great experience.
@@davidsteiner7848 congrats on your hike! I've never gone up South Kaibab - props on the extra elevation! And, thanks for the intel on the Grand Canyon Plaza.
I hope you get to do it again soon! Maybe I'll see you on the trail :)
Great retrospective and a lot to absorb. Thank you. BTW the bridges will always be at the same depth. :-)
I re-watched the original video and was again impressed by the video quality. What camera did you use? I also noted you announced you were slowing down and the multiple times you mentioned being tired. It seems that such thoughts are the body warning the mind that this is getting serious.
@@DouglasKubler very good point on the bridges! I'll just have to be sure I walk all the way down to the river to be sure I get the extra elevation :)
@DouglasKubler I filmed it all on my Samsung S24 Ultra (intentionally got it for the cameras). Good call out on my saying I was tired. At the time I chalked it up to the early morning, little sleep, and not being in peak shape (probably all still true) but also good to recognize there was something underlying.
Thank you for watching, your observations, and comments!
Thank you for this wonderful video. I appreciate all of your information and knowledge. So do you think your condition on the last R2R was caused by lack of electrolytes, and not as much training as you would have liked to have had? What else do you think attributed to that? Thanks again for everything. Great video.
I think lack of downhill conditioning played a role, but that's only a guess based off which muscles were affected. I've had two separate doctors say it just wasn't my day, and any number of things could have played in to the point where a day earlier or later and I probably would have been fine.
That said, before I try again in the future, I'll do a lot more downhill, and will plan to lose my extra pounds so I'm not carrying that weight. And, definitely a bit more hydration.
I have done an R2R2R. It took me 15 hrs to go the 42 miles. I went down and up S Kaibab. I stayed away from Bright Angel.
Some input.....150-200 calories/ hr. 20-24 oz of water with electrolyte tab dropped in. It's very easy to drop an electrolyte tab into a water bladder! Just fill with water and drop the tab in. An extra bottle just for electrolyte water is wasted weight. There is water available on the trail approx every 7 miles. No need to carry more than 2 liters. Carry calorically dense food. Sugar based burns too quickly. Get the best bang for the buck by using high calorie, high fat stuff, like nuts, nut butters, some cookies that are high in fat content. Avoid gels as they supply only a very quick burst of energy from the sugar hit then they are gone. Carbs only have 4 cal/gram. Fat gas 9 cal/ gram. Sugar is like burning newspaper. Fat is like burning an oak log.
Also, very critical... protein must be consumed! 5 to 10 grams/hr. This is key. Easy to use foods that are high in cal/oz, have good fat content, and have protein.
Thank you for your video.
Congrats on our R2R2R and thanks for your thoughts and tips.
On the water front, the pipeline was out, so there was not reliable water. I consume more water than the average person, so 3 liters was a necessity for me (and I like having my electrolytes separate from my main water bladder).
Always good to hear what works for others, both so I can fine tune my approaches, and for those reading this who may have different needs/styles than how I choose to hike.
Happy happy trails to you!