Hey Fab Willy Great investivegative work, Ones initial intuitions are generally correct. With the runaway you may have been able to kill it by pushing the decomp in that beats getting a Shock out of life if not needed.
i Have a saw from my late dad. no id info on it.. no metal plate, the stickers are all gone we do know its is a Husqvarna lol, could be a 285 or 2100? has XP sticker on it. was seized up just from sitting long time?.. trans oil in exhaust port and in spark plug light taps on flywheel it moves.. starter recoil was sticky oiled that up too. oh yeah PSI is only 90 psi??? maybe gauge is wrong saw should not run at all right?? but still works great. removed and cleaned carb. runs fine. high speed set to about 10500. but have adjustments screws set at :Lower 1.25.. and high set at 1 turn. seems to run fine bro in law cut wood with it yesterday.. we all like the saw nice fast powerful.. now to get a 32 inch bar for it be a great felling saw. BUT it is missing the idle screw.. lol Sure went through the logs nice and fast.
Hi Tinman and Willy!!😀😀 So many people reck their saws just from running dull chains. Then they complain that the saw is junk. There is nothing worse than a dull chain. Anyone who thinks it's okay to continue to keep running their saw once the chain is dull deserves what they get. That is such a nice saw for that too have had it happen to. Take care guys!!😀😀 Logger Al
Hi tinman a d wily . My boy has a 441 built up a bit . He had the same thing happen about 2 years ago . Did the same thing you did . Same bearing seal went out . Put new every thing in bottom end . Runs like a chap agin . Thanks for the great video.
@@tinmanssaws thank you for the reply back . I am still working on my 5200 . I will let you know when I get it running . If I can make video I will send it to you .
If the top end is salvageable, what would be a fair ballpark price for a shop replacing the seals and bearings? I bought a non running 550xp and the piston and cylinder were toast. The intake bolts had loosened up and I thought that was the problem. I put a new meteor piston and caber ring in a good cylinder and it's still suckin air. I haven't the tools to pressure or vacuum test it. I dont have much to put in it,but it's got potential and I dont wanna junk it.
What causes that seal failure is an inboard clutch with a cylinder that does not evacuate Heat very well if you get you a laser thermometer and monitor it while it's running you'll see what I'm talking about over there around the clutch gets upwards of 350 degrees and if you look at the air flow paths it all tries to go out at the clutch but then the clutch holds it in and adds more to it very poor design
Well done fellows now l know to buy a Husky lol great video and information Tinman. Regards Frank Hopper from Oakland's NSW Australia cheers mate until your next video stay safe regards
The Lumberjack Jackyl Composition: Jesse James Dupree I was born in the backwoods Of a two-bit nowhere town Fathered up some rock 'n' roll (baby) So your mothers could boogie down I ain't whistling Dixie No I'm a rebel with a groove All around the world the go 'round and 'round When they dig on my new stainless steel sound oh, yeah I'm said a lumberjack baby And I'm gonna cut you down to size I'm a lumberjack baby And you're the one you're the one that gets my prize When you hear my motor running You know I surely be coppin' a rise Oh! So I'm gonna crank it up and down cut it I'm a lumberjack now baby I'm a lumberjack now baby I'm a lumberjack now baby I'm a lumberjack now baby But I ain't jacked my lumber baby Since my chain saw you Whether you like it or whether you don't woo That's the way we like it eu nasci no sertão De uma cidade de dois bits em lugar nenhum Gerou um pouco de rock 'n' roll (amor) Para que suas mães pudessem dançar Eu não estou assobiando Dixie Não, eu sou um rebelde com um groove Em todo o mundo, dá voltas e voltas Quando eles cavam no meu novo som de aço inoxidável, oh, sim eu sou dito um bebê lenhador E eu vou te cortar no tamanho Eu sou um bebê lenhador E você é o único que recebe meu prêmio Quando você ouve meu motor funcionando Você sabe que eu certamente estarei tentando subir Oh! Então eu vou girar para cima e para baixo cortá-lo Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor Mas eu não levantei minha madeira, amor Desde que minha motosserra te viu Se você gosta ou se você não corteja woo É assim que gostamos
Exactly why you should always keep a sharp chain, never an excuse to run a dull chain, I've been around some people whom say owell I've only got a couple of more cuts to make, and you are listening to their saw begging for a sharp chain, that 5 minute job turns into 20
I almost lost a finger to a run away detroit.i slipped into the fan trying to hit the shut off flapper.was a sight to see. Lol. Those STIHL saws hard to work on. Y I prefer husqvarna. I have a 661c.but I prefer my 2188 actually.
Yep, had a 200T come in a couple times with tuning issues, I eventually just replaced the crank seals. Turns out they have a bakelite seal so I bought seals from my local bearing supply, runs good now.
And the AV system sucks to say the least and don't even get me started on the throttle response I would never even dream of doing felling with one of those pull the trigger today and it throttles tomorrow I have gotten to the point where if somebody brings one to me I tell them no
Nice Diagnosis
Saludos desde Patagonia.
Cuantos dolares ese presupuesto????
Hey Fab Willy
Great investivegative work, Ones initial intuitions are generally correct.
With the runaway you may have been able to kill it by pushing the decomp in that beats getting a Shock out of life if not needed.
i Have a saw from my late dad. no id info on it.. no metal plate, the stickers are all gone we do know its is a Husqvarna lol, could be a 285 or 2100? has XP sticker on it. was seized up just from sitting long time?.. trans oil in exhaust port and in spark plug light taps on flywheel it moves.. starter recoil was sticky oiled that up too. oh yeah PSI is only 90 psi??? maybe gauge is wrong saw should not run at all right?? but still works great. removed and cleaned carb. runs fine. high speed set to about 10500. but have adjustments screws set at :Lower 1.25.. and high set at 1 turn. seems to run fine bro in law cut wood with it yesterday.. we all like the saw nice fast powerful.. now to get a 32 inch bar for it be a great felling saw. BUT it is missing the idle screw.. lol Sure went through the logs nice and fast.
Welcome to the channel Willy nice to have you! No worries Tinman will get that saw running! We have faith!
Looks like ya got a catastrophic meltdown there!!!
Hey Tinman hope you doing good nice to meet you will you. Stay safe out there. Thank you for all you do.
Hi Tinman and Willy!!😀😀
So many people reck their saws just from running dull chains. Then they complain that the saw is junk.
There is nothing worse than a dull chain. Anyone who thinks it's okay to continue to keep running their saw once the chain is dull deserves what they get.
That is such a nice saw for that too have had it happen to.
Take care guys!!😀😀
Logger Al
Hi tinman a d wily . My boy has a 441 built up a bit . He had the same thing happen about 2 years ago . Did the same thing you did . Same bearing seal went out . Put new every thing in bottom end . Runs like a chap agin . Thanks for the great video.
That failure is super common. Great to hear you got yours up and running again.
@@tinmanssaws thank you for the reply back . I am still working on my 5200 . I will let you know when I get it running . If I can make video I will send it to you .
@@kenschuh7321 thats a big ol 10-4 buddy!!
If the top end is salvageable, what would be a fair ballpark price for a shop replacing the seals and bearings? I bought a non running 550xp and the piston and cylinder were toast. The intake bolts had loosened up and I thought that was the problem. I put a new meteor piston and caber ring in a good cylinder and it's still suckin air. I haven't the tools to pressure or vacuum test it. I dont have much to put in it,but it's got potential and I dont wanna junk it.
Hey Willy!! Always scary when they run away!!! I had a big diesel run away bfor. Good job! Keep it up buddy!
What causes that seal failure is an inboard clutch with a cylinder that does not evacuate Heat very well if you get you a laser thermometer and monitor it while it's running you'll see what I'm talking about over there around the clutch gets upwards of 350 degrees and if you look at the air flow paths it all tries to go out at the clutch but then the clutch holds it in and adds more to it very poor design
Fab willie! You already know, but you’ve got a great friend in the tinman! Great annalisis
Oh man this couldn't have come at a better time i maybe acquiring a ms441 this week
good work well done
Hey Fab Willy nice to meet you. Feel bad for your buddy, fresh rebuild failing.
Well done both of you for a very good video 👍
The Saw That Wouldn't Die! 😄 Hello Fab.
Great job 👍 keep the videos coming Tinman! 👍👍😁
Well done fellows now l know to buy a Husky lol great video and information Tinman. Regards Frank Hopper from Oakland's NSW Australia cheers mate until your next video stay safe regards
Haha lots of plastic raced huskies out there to.
Quite afew of you Aussies on my channel, thanks for being here!!
The Lumberjack
Jackyl
Composition: Jesse James Dupree
I was born in the backwoods
Of a two-bit nowhere town
Fathered up some rock 'n' roll (baby)
So your mothers could boogie down
I ain't whistling Dixie
No I'm a rebel with a groove
All around the world the go 'round and 'round
When they dig on my new stainless steel sound oh, yeah
I'm said a lumberjack baby
And I'm gonna cut you down to size
I'm a lumberjack baby
And you're the one you're the one that gets my prize
When you hear my motor running
You know I surely be coppin' a rise
Oh! So I'm gonna crank it up and down cut it
I'm a lumberjack now baby
I'm a lumberjack now baby
I'm a lumberjack now baby
I'm a lumberjack now baby
But I ain't jacked my lumber baby
Since my chain saw you
Whether you like it or whether you don't woo
That's the way we like it
eu nasci no sertão
De uma cidade de dois bits em lugar nenhum
Gerou um pouco de rock 'n' roll (amor)
Para que suas mães pudessem dançar
Eu não estou assobiando Dixie
Não, eu sou um rebelde com um groove
Em todo o mundo, dá voltas e voltas
Quando eles cavam no meu novo som de aço inoxidável, oh, sim
eu sou dito um bebê lenhador
E eu vou te cortar no tamanho
Eu sou um bebê lenhador
E você é o único que recebe meu prêmio
Quando você ouve meu motor funcionando
Você sabe que eu certamente estarei tentando subir
Oh! Então eu vou girar para cima e para baixo cortá-lo
Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor
Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor
Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor
Eu sou um lenhador agora, amor
Mas eu não levantei minha madeira, amor
Desde que minha motosserra te viu
Se você gosta ou se você não corteja woo
É assim que gostamos
Exactly why you should always keep a sharp chain, never an excuse to run a dull chain, I've been around some people whom say owell I've only got a couple of more cuts to make, and you are listening to their saw begging for a sharp chain, that 5 minute job turns into 20
About time you got some good help in the Tinman Garage😂. Good stuff in this video, thanks for the content!
You're welcome buddy
Cant message you on facebook anymore not sure why??
Tinman's saws try now, I sent a test message.
Hit the wrong button was trying to go back and figure out how to spell analysis! Lol
I almost lost a finger to a run away detroit.i slipped into the fan trying to hit the shut off flapper.was a sight to see. Lol. Those STIHL saws hard to work on. Y I prefer husqvarna. I have a 661c.but I prefer my 2188 actually.
Heck yeh, well done bud!
Yep, had a 200T come in a couple times with tuning issues, I eventually just replaced the crank seals. Turns out they have a bakelite seal so I bought seals from my local bearing supply, runs good now.
I've worked on a few of those and I hate them they like to pop the case gasket and clutch side seal
And the AV system sucks to say the least and don't even get me started on the throttle response I would never even dream of doing felling with one of those pull the trigger today and it throttles tomorrow I have gotten to the point where if somebody brings one to me I tell them no
HI FAB WILLY, A SHAME ABOUT THE SAW BUT ANOTHER FUTURE PROJECT
Hey Willy!
👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Popping the you tube cherry lol 🍒