YES! JUSTICE FOR HOLDEN AND CATCHER IN THE RYE. it's been one of my favorite books ever since i first read it in 7th grade, and i am TIRED of all the slander
I feel like at this point it became kind off a thing to hate this specific book? I do like this book and I think I red it at the right time in my life end of teenage years to really resonate with me but alot of the critisim is getting blown up so much. Theres not many other classics that get so much hate and I could think of enough other classics where people brush over problematic bits. Also does a book need to be perfect or morally good to be enjoyed especially taking in the aspect how many years ago it was published.
I love The Catcher in the Rye. Holden is a kind and generous kid who's left alone to deal with major traumas. All he wants is to connect with people on a deep level and to protect/save children.
It's so amazing that you love Catcher in the Rye. By the way, pay attention to Holden's name. I'll quote from an internet article: Holden’s name is also significant: Holden can be read as “hold on,” and Caulfield can be separated into caul and field. Holden’s desire is to “hold on” to the protective covering (the caul) that encloses the field of innocence (the same field he wishes to keep the children from leaving). Holden desperately wants to remain true and innocent in a world full of, as he puts it, “phonies.” I loved watching you talk about this book so much!
I found one definition of Holden online too where the name meant guardian or shepard or something so it's possible the etymology is also fitting for the character since he wants to be the Catcher in the Rye
The Catcher in The Rye is my favorite book. It’s was the first book i ever loved, at 15 it hit me so hard and blew my mind. I found it absolutely hilarious (i thought it reminded me of the Diary of a Wimpy Kid books), which i didn’t know classics could be. The thing that struck me the most was his relationship with his little sister bc it reminded me so much of me and my older brother. It was the heart of the book for me and i never hear anyone talk about it. And the fact that Salinger wrote a large part of it during his WWII service. I could talk about this book forever. I’ve now reread it multiple times over the years, and every time i do i feel like i relate more to Holden and find new hidden gems of symbolism. This book is filled with so much beauty.
I remember when we took a test about the book and one of the questions was to write, using the style of the authour, a short scene about something that could have happened to Holden while he was roaming around the city. I had so much fun writing my answer to that question, i’ll never forget it
I’m so happy you understand catcher in the rye. I can’t stand when ppl say he’s just bratty teen boy, Holden and the book do not deserve the hate at all
The whole time I was reading Catcher in the Rye, I felt that loneliness despite not really knowing why. I don’t know if it’s because I was so shy and socially awkward as a teenager, but that feeling of desperately wanting to connect with someone really resonated with me. It’s like his attitude was a defence mechanism to protect himself from being rejected.
The Catcher in the Rye has been my favorite novel since age 14. I've read it many times since and at age 54, I still stand by it! I'm happy you gave it a chance & loved it ❤.
Fun fact: The Catcher in the Rye is one of four books that my dad has read in his entire life. Not a reader, that man… 🤣 and yet, he swears he loves it, and sings its praises to this day, even though I doubt he’s reread it in 40-plus years. (He’s 64) He actually still has his high school copy, and it’s the same exact edition that Carolyn was reading! Myself, I first read it in 8th grade, and didn’t really understand it. I’ve since not actually reread the entire thing, and know most of what I know now from other sources. Shame on me… alas, I don’t own a copy. Maybe it’s time I borrow my dad’s… 😄 And finally, IMHO anyone who hates Holden must have misunderstood the book. I can’t see any other way. He’s one of the greatest protagonists of all time.
I also tried to read it early in my childhood, and I did not like it. However, when I revisited it early in my highschool years, I loved it so much I cried at the end because it was so special
I would highly recommend Hungarian classics. They're usually minimal plot just vibes books, and Hungarian poetry, especially in 19th-20th century is sooo lyrical. For Hungarian books in hungarian it's not that hard to be lyrical, because the language itself is lyrical and even the most mundane things are talked about in flowery language, naturally, in everyday use.
@@mmmondegreen8074 Absolutely. Our most famous and influential poets from the 19th century are Petőfi Sándor and Arany János, they were both master minds and had one of the greatest friendships in hungarian literature history. They wrote letters to each other which are now public and you can read them. I highly recommend them, especially before reading they works, because you get to understand their philosophy behind they're own work. Petőfi's most famous work is John the Valiant and Arany's is Toldi. Both are epics. When it comes to novels, The man with the golden touch by Jókai Mór is a commentery of how the Hungarian society converted to capitalism from feudalism, and also takes inspiration from the myth of King Midas. Romance of Ida by Gárdonyi Géza is still day a lot of people's favourite hungarian classic of all time. This one unfortunately i did not read yet, but it's republished almost every three years. We unfortunately do not have much plays written by hungarians, but the two most influentials (and also my favourite) are: Bánk the Palatine by Katona József, and The Tragedy of Man by Madách Imre. In my opinion these are fantastic starting points in hungarian classics, but i'll list you a few other names just in case. For poets: Ady Endre József Attila Kosztolányi Dezső Kaffka Margit Lesznai Anna For novelists: Móricz Zsigmond Miszkáth Kálmán Szabó Magda Molnár Ferenc Szerb Antal Rejtő Jenő
Yay, a fellow Hungarian!! I would recommend a 20. century “classic” author (well, classic for us), Magda Szabó. One of her books especially, The Door, is highly recommended by international outlets. It’s a novel, but in my opinion, all her works are very beautifully written. Her narrative and worldbuilding are very enjoyable.
Thank you so much emmie for this diary. I have been so inspired by you to read more ever since diving into your world. Your passion for reading truly transpires through the screen in everything you read even though it's a book you didn't necessarily enjoy. Thank you for making reading more accessible, attractive and enjoyable.
I loved Catcher in the Rye when I read it, and I was so surprised to later find out it has such a bad reputation! I honestly think that the people who complain about Holden being too "whiny" or "difficult" need to have more sympathy for him and be more empathetic; the boy is clearly struggling with so much, he's traumatized...it's really hard to believe that so many people chalk everything up to him being whiny. Also totally agree that it's a funny book, I remember laughing at his musings several times! So glad you liked this goddamn book!
I love Catcher in the rye, and I am convinced that Holden is autistic (ASD1). My husband and two of my children are on the spectrum, and when I read the book, so many things Holden went through reminded me of them: Not feeling connected to people, feeling alienated, Sensory overload in the city, Obsession (ducks in park), Not being able to identify his feelings (loss of his brother), His deep care for his little sister, Regretting and overthinking situations...
Your love for Catcher is infectious, makes me want to reread it. Probably been 14 years or so since I read it, but I remember that I also enjoyed it and I've never understood people disliking Holden - i found him relatable so I guess people dislike me too 😎
Im so happy you liked catcher! When i first finished it i was like "well that wasnt great" but then i just couldnt stop thinking about it for months. I think the book rearranged something in my brain. And that scene towards the end when Holden is watching his sister on the carousel.... Jesus i tear up just thinking about it
So early! This is the reward I get for having insomnia I guess, very excited for you reading The Brother’s Karamazov. I read it this year and it was so excellent, Dostoevsky’s writing is super addictive for some reason and I love how empathetic he is to his characters. Much love and hope you enjoy!!
@@emmiereads please do enjoy! I’m excited to see which brother is your favourite (mine is ivan), i maybe predict you liking dmitri because he’s so unpredictable and his chapters are the most entertaining.
OKAY SO, about that Catcher in the rye ending, SPOILERS MAYBE? When I first read the book I thought Holden was in a mental hospital at the end too, I mean it made sense. But then I watched a summary of the book and they said that he actually was hospitalized with tuberculosis? My first reaction was thinking they had made a mistake but sure enough, Holden says in the first pages of the novel that he got t.b. (as in tuberculosis) because he smoked so much and had to go there to get checked up. I read it a long time ago so I guess there could be different interpretations, maybe he lied to us at the beggining about the reason why he was in that place, maybe he went to the hospital because of tb first but then they realized he needed psychiatric help, maybe the author wanted to leave the present blurry intentionally. This keeps me up at night, I need to reread it
I thought he was in a mental hospital too...was TB common in the 50s? I kinda assumed he had actually caught pneumonia or something since TB seemed far fetched
I read The Cather in the Rye in my teen years and it easily became my favorite book! Something about an angsty teen reading about an angsty teen was magical. I will forever be its defender. It. deserves. better.
I'm only 6min in but I have to say that I loved catcher in the rye so much and what you are saying about Holden is exactly what I felt when I was reading this book!!
I actually really enjoyed David Copperfield it was my first ever Dickens book. I loved that the book had a lot of characters throughout the story and I didn’t find myself bored with just the main character.
Yay! She's back! Love your emphasis on the classics. I just finished The Idiot by Dostoevsky. Had some feelings. I should reread Karamazov--I remember loving it in the high school. And as a fellow Dickens fanatic, I'll agree with you--David Copperfield was one of my least favorites. TBH, Dickens saying that it was autobiographical just made me think less of HIM personally, lol. Have a great week, Emma!
I'm so happy you liked Catcher in the Rye! I read it back in high school and it was such an amazing experience because I had an amazing Lit professor who made us actually enjoy the book and have interesting conversations about it. Had I read it on my own I probably would have not like it. Loved the vlog!
emmie your videos give me so much joy, so excited to see more of these classic diaries!! also i’ve been excited all year to read the brothers karamasov! it’ll be my fourth dostoyevsky and i feel it’ll be my favorite :)
I'm 50, and I read The Catcher in the Rye in high school. Not because I was assigned it, but because someone left it on a cafeteria table and I was intrigued by the title, and the stark red cover with no illustration. I read the first page and was instantly hooked, maybe because I also had some unresolved childhood trauma of my own. I re-read it a few years ago and I found even funnier and sadder than I remember. It holds up. One reason it got a bad rap (at least back in the 80's) was its influence on a few people who did some truly horrible things. It became a symbol for the typical disaffected youth even though it is a well written piece of literature.
It’s so interesting how everyone finds their own way in these books. I remember seeing something of myself in David, so I had a strong emotional pull towards him and the book
I love love love your videos about classic literature! Its honestly primarily your fault that i started reading classic lit two years ago and i grew so much as a reader and as a person because of it, so thank you!!❤ I had to skip these two months of the GoT book club because of my final exams, but i will be joining you again for the next to picks! (Although i will be reading The Stranger in May and The Brothers Karamazov in June, as I want to do a buddy read of TBK with my friend and hes still very busy until June haha.) Im really looking forward to the Dostoevsky Diaries!!
I didn't read David Copperfield but I loved The Catcher in the Rye! SPOILERS Holden is suffering from PTSD and he KNOWS he is depressed and it's really interesting. I don't know if his parents are necessarily abusive/neglectful (for the times), but the trauma is very much from the death of his brother and how he wasn't even able to attend the funeral bc he was shipped off to school. I nearly peed laughing so hard when the cab driver tells him the fish free and their pores open and they absorb seaweed for nutrients in the winter LOL... and I was like "Holden my dude!!! you literally just talked about migration patterns and the museum but you are asking about the ducks?? The math is mathing!" LOL I found him quite relatable, I wonder if the people who hate him, like when Caroline read it initially (I know she changed her mind now), that the hate partially stems from it being required reading in some schools and it's kids who don't relate reading it and wondering why this kid is getting to do so much stuff and is still "whiny" when they are working their butts off in school and have "real problems". I think he is more relatable because once you're out of highschool you learn his responses are real and you likely have had some sort of pain similar to him. I finished the book and felt sad knowing we would never get an update on Holden. Also, I was so confused bc this book is largely like frowned upon for being partly why Lennon was shot and in the possession of many criminals, but like it doesn't further enrage any PTSD and if anything it sorta reminds you that you're not alone in your loneliness. I was very shocked that this book has the bad stigma when it could be considered rather therapeutic to someone feeling alone... Everything to Holden was phony, depressing, and simply not good enough, except his little sister who was still innocent enough to not have the flaws that older kids/people have. The only truly disappointing part of the book was when he explains "the catcher in the rye" and how he is actually misremembering a song LOL! Poor Holden.
Just getting caught up on your vlogs when I realized that you were getting around to reading one of my favorite books, "The Catcher in the Rye." There's this false dichotomy for the types of high school students who become adults, between those who discover Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" and Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". I think there's more and this includes the type of people who discovered Holden Caulfield when they were teenagers in high school, and who they became as adults. I was one of those students. I was the same age as Salinger's protagonist in "The Catcher in the Rye". I was also an avid reader of popular genre fiction but something changed upon reading "The Catcher in the Rye". The naturalistic tone of it. Holden's perception of his life and surroundings. The unintentionally humorous outlook mixed with the sudden bitterness and isolation. It felt like the first honest story that I had read. It made me want to expand my reading horizons. I wanted to find other voices, to see if they held other truths that I could not have known but also mirrored some of my own. "The Catcher in the Rye" made me want to read outside of the bestseller lists of what was popular and find things on my own.
So glad you've found a classic you really enjoyed bc classics offer more opportunities to interact with other readers on a level above "Oh, I liked this but not that," and "Me too, except for that, I didn't like that" etc. Ofc it's too bad about DC but that's life. Looking forward to the live show (next week), and also looking forward to Brothers Karamazov, which will be only my 2d Dostoevsky. As for Camus' L'etranger, I'll be (re)reading it in French and really hope you join me there.
@@emmiereads so far so good. Lots to analyze in this book. It’s basically a revenge story. I know American lit isn’t your fave 😅🫠, but hopefully you give this one a try it is a mighty undertaking. Maybe after university. 🥰✨
I agree 100% with everything you said about both books! I'm loving this book club, watching you two discuss classics has been so fun because I love reading classics! I'm so excited for The Brothers Karamazov 😄
I had never heard that people hated him so I was so surprised after reading it last year. I liked Holden and thought he was hilarious and relevant. I'm glad to hear that you like him too.
Ok so now i really want to read Catcher in the rye!! ❤ but something sad and interesting about Alianza’s Spanish translation is that they say it changes completely the meaning of the story so I’m gonna have to look for a different edition and translation. Anyway, thank you for these beautiful and peaceful videos, Emma! ❤
Had to read the Catcher in the Rye for final literature exam and it became one of the books that I forced myself to read through torture and suffering, but one thing that I did like about the story is the symbolism and metaphors throughout the book that deal with having to leave childhood behind and come to age though the process might be frightening to some people.
Sorry you didn’t love David copperfield!! I’m almost done reading it, and it’s definitely no tale of two cities (my favorite dickens!!), but what really fascinates me about it is that he starts out asking if he is the main character of his life…and what is so beautiful is that he isn’t!! If you asked Uriah heep if he was the main character of his own life he it would be an ecstatic yes - he only cares about himself. But David spends pages and pages discussing all of the people around him and making them the central characters. he lets them shine brighter than himself and he lets them teach him and make him better. I found that so entrancing! Really Holden and David juxtapose each other so much in that Holden lives this lonely life, where David is surrounded by deep connections. I was definitely bored by David copperfield a bit at times, but the characters helped bring it to life. I actually enjoy both of these books!!
I feel like Uriah is completely in control, whereas at the other end of the spectrum is Mr. Micawber who has completely let go of control (until the end), and David is a middle ground.
@@spamel33 that’s a fascinating point! I’m definitely a mr micawber stan, but that is an intriguing comparison. I read something that discussed how Uriah was so meticulous in his idea that everyone just acts in their own self interest, and therefore thought micawber would just fall in line out of his own self interest. He didn’t realize that people like micawber and David actually were willing to make sacrifices for others.
Can’t wait till you read Brothers K. Nothing like it. Keep in mind that, although they are often mentioned together, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky have absolutely nothing in common - they are completely irreconcilable. Btw CITR is a direct descendent of Huck Finn :)
I'm so excited you're starting Brothers Karamazov! Im HERE for the Dostoevesky diaries 😅. One of my best friends loves Catcher in the Rhye so much and is trying to get me to read it. Your sharing those passages has definitely increased my interest.
I feel like the minority that preferred David Copperfield over Catcher in The Rye. I tried to love Catcher in The Rye but Holden kept rubbing me the wrong way. I understand he has been through a lot but he comes off very…insufferable.
I can't stand Holden's way of speaking. I know it's true to awkward teenaged boys, but I didn't even like talking to awkward teenaged boys when I was an awkward teenaged girl
Of course I think no one has an obligation to like a book. But if someone hates the catcher in the rye it kinda suggests to me that person has no empathy.
This is irrelevant to the books that were mentioned in this video. However, I really wanna recommend a book. I searched your goodreads account and I didn't see Mikhail Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita, so I assume you haven't read it. I think it's considered a Russian/Soviet classic(?) - since you say you wanna dive back into classics. It's REALLY GOOD! I don't think this is official, but it's kinda considered magic realism. I don't think my description will do the book any justice at all (so I'm not gonna try lol). but please go check it out if you have time :)
It's refreshing that you understood Holden that much on your first read I'm so tired of people calling this child who obviously has had traumatic experiences whiny. I agree with a lot of your interpretations and found your analysis interesting
I don't really take the opinions of people who hate this book or Holden seriously because I don't think I would relate to them. Before I elaborate, it's funny that it seems the "type" of person who bashes this book is also the type of person who loved going to emo nite and listening to whiny mid 2000s bands. So, that seems pretty hypocritical to say the least. Anyways, I don't think people who actively hate this book have dealt with much loneliness or bitterness in their lives (which is a good thing, but it also strikes me as blissfully ignorant of how other people live and cope with hardships). It's a kid in therapy talking about the death of a sibling and routinely talking about his love for his other siblings, while criticizing society as a whole (because let's be honest societt has always deserved to be criticized). And people want to say Holden is this spoiled rich kid. Ummm, maybe the reason he hates the school he goes to is because he can't stand them. And he wears a tattered hunting cap all the time, so he's not exactly demanding. But all in all, it's about a kid who feels alone and lost, and the kid isn't perfect. But yeah, i think people who hate this book have always had a friend group, close family, or some sort of support system, so their lack of curmudgeon kinda is telling.
It might just be that I haven't read Dickens before but I honestly quite enjoyed a lot of David Copperfield. Not necessarily my kind of lit but I had a good time. I did also enjoy Catcher in the Rye a fair bit more than I did in high school though. Currently, however, I'm reading Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier, and it's really excellent. A bit aimless structurally speaking, but still great.
I went into The Catcher in the Rye not expecting much, and then suddenly I realised I am hooked. There is so much to unpack in that book, I really don't understand all the hate it gets
So glad that you liked The Catcher in the Rye. First time reading it, I read the translation into my native language, which was a bad one imo. I re-read the book this April and it became an all time favorite.
I am so happy that you liked the catcher in the rye. It is my favourite book and reading a lot of negative reviews was infuriating. I am glad you have positive things to say about it. If you haven't read it yet read Franny and zooey too.
I was reading the cathcher in the rye as an e-book. I never thought i would like it but i am really enjoying it. After seeing both you and carolyn liked it, i have Just ordered the hardback copy. I wanna keep the book. I must have it.🤩
Hi Emmie. Currently on page 70 Brothers Karamazov. This book got me buying post-it’s for annotations and a notebook because I gotta keep up with all these Russian names and the book is packed with scenes I feel like I should not forget. So far, I’m loving it! I’m all for Dostoyevsky diaries. Yes please ❤
I very nervous to watch this one because Catcher is my favorite novel and it seems to be a trend to hate in it lately on UA-cam. But I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s stuck with me through all these years and I’m in my thirties now.
I just finished David Copperfield. The first half is a masterpiece, thoroughly. As we proceed the book turns episodic, and it seems evident to me that Dickens didn't want to leave it, he loved this work so much. As a result, for this reader, it goes on for too long. It is good, but the second half dwindles in interest. I would give it 4 stars. There are several noteworthy quotes in DC. Here are two: (1) "It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him." Chapter 48. (2) " ‘These are early days, Trot,’ she [Aunt Betsey] pursued, ‘and Rome was not built in a day, nor in a year. You have chosen freely for yourself’; a cloud passed over her face for a moment, I thought; ‘and you have chosen a very pretty and a very affectionate creature. It will be your duty, and it will be your pleasure too-of course I know that; I am not delivering a lecture-to estimate her (as you chose her) by the qualities she has, and not by the qualities she may not have. The latter you must develop in her, if you can. And if you cannot, child,’ here my aunt rubbed her nose, ‘you must just accustom yourself to do without ‘em. But remember, my dear, your future is between you two. No one can assist you; you are to work it out for yourselves. This is marriage, Trot; and Heaven bless you both, in it, for a pair of babes in the wood as you are!’ Chapter 44.
I feel like this book sounds like the male version of the bell jar. Like not exact, it’s not really fair to compare them, but I feel like they come from a similar place and experience of feelings.
@@Tolstoy111 yes, that is true as well. But I’ve read one and not the other, and in general feel they could still be compared. If nothing else, I think that just emphasizes how relevant and relatable the themes and feelings continue to be throughout literature’s history, especially for a young adult!
i think you should give other Salinger's books a try! he wrote multiple stories about those incredibly smart and self-aware 8? siblings. my favorite one is "franny and zooey". it starts with a girl having dinner with her boyfriend and her literally slowly collapsing into a mental breakdown. it's so witty, both hilarous and sad and it contains some of the best dialogue i've ever read.
I believe that Holden (Salinger) was talking to Whit Burnett (his professor), the one who was begging Salinger to finish the book for years. Salinger did abandoned writing because of some traumas he got from WW2, he suffered a lot during the 50s writing the book and trying to find peace at the same time, after reading 3 biographies about him you can really connect every stage of his private life with Holden in some aspect. And I believe that his short stories collection should gain the same amount of attention as TCITR
Im rereading Kafka on the shore and Little life. Then i want to study Hamlet and Julius Caesar. And i want to complete Plato's Symposium. And complete Jane eyre. And start reading ULysses.
Sweet sweet Emmie, can you please make a video recommending audiobooks? Specially books that are in the Plus catalog on Audible? I struggle trying to find good titles there! (Besides the classics, of course)
Hi, Emma, just discovered your channel about a week ago and I just read Catcher yesterday! I am Holden Caulfield. I swear to God. This video was waiting for me in my recs on YT when I finished the goddam book, what a nice coincidence. Subscribed. Like a lot of people, all phonies, all of 'em, I relate to Holden, having lost relatives in tragic ways and taking my pain out on the crappy world full of goddam phonies, I just want to puke on 'em, except I'm aware of my hypocrisy in my being quite the phoney myself and I know my self awareness keeps me out of the mental hospital, unlike Holden. Anyways, I laughed internally throughout the goddam book, but laughed out loud long and hard when Holden says in CH 18: "I don't think I could stand it if I had to go to war. I really couldn't. It wouldn't be too bad if they'd just take you out and shoot you or something, but you have to stay in the army so goddam long.....I swear if there's ever another war, they better just take me out and stick me in front of a firing squad. I wouldn't object.....Anyway, I'm sort of glad they've got the atomic bomb invented. If there's ever another war, I'm going to sit right the hell on top of it. I'll volunteer for it, I swear to God I will." That killed me. Laid a terrific fart. Nearly blew the roof off. CH 23, Holden describes a former classmate, James Castle, who committed suicide by jumping out a window and an unusually compassionate teacher, Mr Antolini, who took care of James Castle's body afterward. CH 24, Holden goes to visit Mr Antolini IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT and I was convinced that he was going to jump out of his window to his death so that Mr Antolini would take great care of him like he had James Castle, and apparently Mr Antolini was, too. He possesses a supernaturally shrewd insight into Holden's emotional state and tells him "The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one." I about fell out of bed reading that. Why couldn't someone have told me that 35 goddam years ago? I'll tell you why: because I've never known a Mr Antolini. The crappy world is full of goddam phonies. That's why. Guess I'll crawl down off this crappy atomic bomb now. Fun facts: TCITR, one of the most banned/censored books in history, still sells about 1 MILLION COPIES PER YEAR 70+ years after its publication. Following Salinger's crappy death, his bastard family confirmed rumors that he continued writing for decades and there are many, many goddam books that they are preparing for future publication, with his blessing.
I read catcher in the rye in HS. Now read it as a mother with a teenage son who also lost his little brother suddenly and traumatically, it hits different this time around. I can't wait until my son reads it in school, I wonder what his reaction will be. Holden and Jonah (my son) have the same vibe too....very interesting.
The only Dickens I've read are Great Expectations, Christmas Carol, Hard Times and a Tale of Two Cities, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the last two
YES! JUSTICE FOR HOLDEN AND CATCHER IN THE RYE. it's been one of my favorite books ever since i first read it in 7th grade, and i am TIRED of all the slander
Hear, hear! (I love this book)
I feel like at this point it became kind off a thing to hate this specific book? I do like this book and I think I red it at the right time in my life end of teenage years to really resonate with me but alot of the critisim is getting blown up so much.
Theres not many other classics that get so much hate and I could think of enough other classics where people brush over problematic bits.
Also does a book need to be perfect or morally good to be enjoyed especially taking in the aspect how many years ago it was published.
Hear hear!
The book that government has ppl on a list for buying 😂 it is a good book thought
emmie's videos about classics are my favorite genre fr
she has a way of talking about them that no one else has
I love The Catcher in the Rye. Holden is a kind and generous kid who's left alone to deal with major traumas. All he wants is to connect with people on a deep level and to protect/save children.
It's so amazing that you love Catcher in the Rye. By the way, pay attention to Holden's name.
I'll quote from an internet article:
Holden’s name is also significant: Holden can be read as “hold on,” and Caulfield can be separated into caul and field. Holden’s desire is to “hold on” to the protective covering (the caul) that encloses the field of innocence (the same field he wishes to keep the children from leaving). Holden desperately wants to remain true and innocent in a world full of, as he puts it, “phonies.”
I loved watching you talk about this book so much!
I found one definition of Holden online too where the name meant guardian or shepard or something so it's possible the etymology is also fitting for the character since he wants to be the Catcher in the Rye
@@kenzgitz9884 That's interesting.
The Catcher in The Rye is my favorite book. It’s was the first book i ever loved, at 15 it hit me so hard and blew my mind. I found it absolutely hilarious (i thought it reminded me of the Diary of a Wimpy Kid books), which i didn’t know classics could be. The thing that struck me the most was his relationship with his little sister bc it reminded me so much of me and my older brother. It was the heart of the book for me and i never hear anyone talk about it. And the fact that Salinger wrote a large part of it during his WWII service. I could talk about this book forever.
I’ve now reread it multiple times over the years, and every time i do i feel like i relate more to Holden and find new hidden gems of symbolism. This book is filled with so much beauty.
I remember when we took a test about the book and one of the questions was to write, using the style of the authour, a short scene about something that could have happened to Holden while he was roaming around the city. I had so much fun writing my answer to that question, i’ll never forget it
I’m so happy you understand catcher in the rye. I can’t stand when ppl say he’s just bratty teen boy, Holden and the book do not deserve the hate at all
12:35 "He starts talking to these women and starts talking about women and then you start to feel less sorry for him." Lol Emma 🤣🤣🤣
The whole time I was reading Catcher in the Rye, I felt that loneliness despite not really knowing why. I don’t know if it’s because I was so shy and socially awkward as a teenager, but that feeling of desperately wanting to connect with someone really resonated with me. It’s like his attitude was a defence mechanism to protect himself from being rejected.
The Catcher in the Rye has been my favorite novel since age 14. I've read it many times since and at age 54, I still stand by it! I'm happy you gave it a chance & loved it ❤.
i'm SO happy you liked catcher, as my favorite classic of all time I feel validated by you loving it lol!
Listen to the Audiobook once.
Fun fact: The Catcher in the Rye is one of four books that my dad has read in his entire life. Not a reader, that man… 🤣 and yet, he swears he loves it, and sings its praises to this day, even though I doubt he’s reread it in 40-plus years. (He’s 64) He actually still has his high school copy, and it’s the same exact edition that Carolyn was reading!
Myself, I first read it in 8th grade, and didn’t really understand it. I’ve since not actually reread the entire thing, and know most of what I know now from other sources. Shame on me… alas, I don’t own a copy. Maybe it’s time I borrow my dad’s… 😄 And finally, IMHO anyone who hates Holden must have misunderstood the book. I can’t see any other way. He’s one of the greatest protagonists of all time.
I also tried to read it early in my childhood, and I did not like it. However, when I revisited it early in my highschool years, I loved it so much I cried at the end because it was so special
I would highly recommend Hungarian classics. They're usually minimal plot just vibes books, and Hungarian poetry, especially in 19th-20th century is sooo lyrical. For Hungarian books in hungarian it's not that hard to be lyrical, because the language itself is lyrical and even the most mundane things are talked about in flowery language, naturally, in everyday use.
do you have recommendations?
@@mmmondegreen8074 Absolutely. Our most famous and influential poets from the 19th century are Petőfi Sándor and Arany János, they were both master minds and had one of the greatest friendships in hungarian literature history. They wrote letters to each other which are now public and you can read them. I highly recommend them, especially before reading they works, because you get to understand their philosophy behind they're own work. Petőfi's most famous work is John the Valiant and Arany's is Toldi. Both are epics.
When it comes to novels, The man with the golden touch by Jókai Mór is a commentery of how the Hungarian society converted to capitalism from feudalism, and also takes inspiration from the myth of King Midas.
Romance of Ida by Gárdonyi Géza is still day a lot of people's favourite hungarian classic of all time. This one unfortunately i did not read yet, but it's republished almost every three years.
We unfortunately do not have much plays written by hungarians, but the two most influentials (and also my favourite) are: Bánk the Palatine by Katona József, and The Tragedy of Man by Madách Imre.
In my opinion these are fantastic starting points in hungarian classics, but i'll list you a few other names just in case.
For poets:
Ady Endre
József Attila
Kosztolányi Dezső
Kaffka Margit
Lesznai Anna
For novelists:
Móricz Zsigmond
Miszkáth Kálmán
Szabó Magda
Molnár Ferenc
Szerb Antal
Rejtő Jenő
Yay, a fellow Hungarian!!
I would recommend a 20. century “classic” author (well, classic for us), Magda Szabó. One of her books especially, The Door, is highly recommended by international outlets. It’s a novel, but in my opinion, all her works are very beautifully written. Her narrative and worldbuilding are very enjoyable.
Thank you so much emmie for this diary. I have been so inspired by you to read more ever since diving into your world. Your passion for reading truly transpires through the screen in everything you read even though it's a book you didn't necessarily enjoy. Thank you for making reading more accessible, attractive and enjoyable.
I loved Catcher in the Rye when I read it, and I was so surprised to later find out it has such a bad reputation! I honestly think that the people who complain about Holden being too "whiny" or "difficult" need to have more sympathy for him and be more empathetic; the boy is clearly struggling with so much, he's traumatized...it's really hard to believe that so many people chalk everything up to him being whiny. Also totally agree that it's a funny book, I remember laughing at his musings several times! So glad you liked this goddamn book!
Love the idea of this series! I also loved Catcher In The Rye when I read it. Definitely will have to check out David Copperfield at some point! 😊
I love Catcher in the rye, and I am convinced that Holden is autistic (ASD1). My husband and two of my children are on the spectrum, and when I read the book, so many things Holden went through reminded me of them:
Not feeling connected to people, feeling alienated,
Sensory overload in the city,
Obsession (ducks in park),
Not being able to identify his feelings (loss of his brother),
His deep care for his little sister,
Regretting and overthinking situations...
Your love for Catcher is infectious, makes me want to reread it. Probably been 14 years or so since I read it, but I remember that I also enjoyed it and I've never understood people disliking Holden - i found him relatable so I guess people dislike me too 😎
Im so happy you liked catcher! When i first finished it i was like "well that wasnt great" but then i just couldnt stop thinking about it for months. I think the book rearranged something in my brain. And that scene towards the end when Holden is watching his sister on the carousel.... Jesus i tear up just thinking about it
The Classics Diary!! I’m going to love this series!!
So early! This is the reward I get for having insomnia I guess, very excited for you reading The Brother’s Karamazov. I read it this year and it was so excellent, Dostoevsky’s writing is super addictive for some reason and I love how empathetic he is to his characters. Much love and hope you enjoy!!
ah amazing, I'm gonna start it today!
@@emmiereads please do enjoy! I’m excited to see which brother is your favourite (mine is ivan), i maybe predict you liking dmitri because he’s so unpredictable and his chapters are the most entertaining.
Love from Russia! Brothers Karamazov changed my life!
@iris which translation do you read??
@@muhammadimran8695 i read the constance garnett translation, i’m unsure if thats the one people generally recommend but I enjoyed it
Emma your videos always help with my anxiety. Wishing you the best ♡ thank you for blessing us with your presence
I absolutely love when somebody approaches and asks me what I'm reading!
OKAY SO, about that Catcher in the rye ending, SPOILERS MAYBE?
When I first read the book I thought Holden was in a mental hospital at the end too, I mean it made sense. But then I watched a summary of the book and they said that he actually was hospitalized with tuberculosis? My first reaction was thinking they had made a mistake but sure enough, Holden says in the first pages of the novel that he got t.b. (as in tuberculosis) because he smoked so much and had to go there to get checked up. I read it a long time ago so I guess there could be different interpretations, maybe he lied to us at the beggining about the reason why he was in that place, maybe he went to the hospital because of tb first but then they realized he needed psychiatric help, maybe the author wanted to leave the present blurry intentionally. This keeps me up at night, I need to reread it
I thought he was in a mental hospital too...was TB common in the 50s? I kinda assumed he had actually caught pneumonia or something since TB seemed far fetched
I read The Cather in the Rye in my teen years and it easily became my favorite book! Something about an angsty teen reading about an angsty teen was magical. I will forever be its defender. It. deserves. better.
Saving this for bedtime... a relaxing unwind before the mayhem of Monday! 😊
I'm only 6min in but I have to say that I loved catcher in the rye so much and what you are saying about Holden is exactly what I felt when I was reading this book!!
I actually really enjoyed David Copperfield it was my first ever Dickens book. I loved that the book had a lot of characters throughout the story and I didn’t find myself bored with just the main character.
Dang you’re really making me want to reread Catcher in the Rye
I'm so glad someone else likes Catcher in the Rye😊I think you'd like Salinger's short stories, too. I can't wait for you to read Brothers Karamazov!
Yay! She's back! Love your emphasis on the classics. I just finished The Idiot by Dostoevsky. Had some feelings. I should reread Karamazov--I remember loving it in the high school. And as a fellow Dickens fanatic, I'll agree with you--David Copperfield was one of my least favorites. TBH, Dickens saying that it was autobiographical just made me think less of HIM personally, lol. Have a great week, Emma!
I'm so happy you liked Catcher in the Rye! I read it back in high school and it was such an amazing experience because I had an amazing Lit professor who made us actually enjoy the book and have interesting conversations about it. Had I read it on my own I probably would have not like it.
Loved the vlog!
emmie your videos give me so much joy, so excited to see more of these classic diaries!! also i’ve been excited all year to read the brothers karamasov! it’ll be my fourth dostoyevsky and i feel it’ll be my favorite :)
omg i love it when upload videos about CLASSICS!!!♥️💖🥰😍
Count me in for this series! I finally started reading Moby Dick and thanks to Emma's vids, War and Peace for the first time.
ah so cool! how are you liking both books?
I'm 50, and I read The Catcher in the Rye in high school. Not because I was assigned it, but because someone left it on a cafeteria table and I was intrigued by the title, and the stark red cover with no illustration. I read the first page and was instantly hooked, maybe because I also had some unresolved childhood trauma of my own. I re-read it a few years ago and I found even funnier and sadder than I remember. It holds up.
One reason it got a bad rap (at least back in the 80's) was its influence on a few people who did some truly horrible things. It became a symbol for the typical disaffected youth even though it is a well written piece of literature.
It’s so interesting how everyone finds their own way in these books. I remember seeing something of myself in David, so I had a strong emotional pull towards him and the book
I love love love your videos about classic literature! Its honestly primarily your fault that i started reading classic lit two years ago and i grew so much as a reader and as a person because of it, so thank you!!❤
I had to skip these two months of the GoT book club because of my final exams, but i will be joining you again for the next to picks! (Although i will be reading The Stranger in May and The Brothers Karamazov in June, as I want to do a buddy read of TBK with my friend and hes still very busy until June haha.)
Im really looking forward to the Dostoevsky Diaries!!
Salinger's books are some of the best ever. Reading all of his works will make you feel wonderful.
This is the sign I needed to reread my favorite classic! So glad you love Catcher in the Rye!
Anything Emma puts out I watch. Her video are almost too soothing. They put me out every time. ❤❤❤
I didn't read David Copperfield but I loved The Catcher in the Rye! SPOILERS
Holden is suffering from PTSD and he KNOWS he is depressed and it's really interesting. I don't know if his parents are necessarily abusive/neglectful (for the times), but the trauma is very much from the death of his brother and how he wasn't even able to attend the funeral bc he was shipped off to school. I nearly peed laughing so hard when the cab driver tells him the fish free and their pores open and they absorb seaweed for nutrients in the winter LOL... and I was like "Holden my dude!!! you literally just talked about migration patterns and the museum but you are asking about the ducks?? The math is mathing!" LOL
I found him quite relatable, I wonder if the people who hate him, like when Caroline read it initially (I know she changed her mind now), that the hate partially stems from it being required reading in some schools and it's kids who don't relate reading it and wondering why this kid is getting to do so much stuff and is still "whiny" when they are working their butts off in school and have "real problems". I think he is more relatable because once you're out of highschool you learn his responses are real and you likely have had some sort of pain similar to him.
I finished the book and felt sad knowing we would never get an update on Holden. Also, I was so confused bc this book is largely like frowned upon for being partly why Lennon was shot and in the possession of many criminals, but like it doesn't further enrage any PTSD and if anything it sorta reminds you that you're not alone in your loneliness. I was very shocked that this book has the bad stigma when it could be considered rather therapeutic to someone feeling alone...
Everything to Holden was phony, depressing, and simply not good enough, except his little sister who was still innocent enough to not have the flaws that older kids/people have.
The only truly disappointing part of the book was when he explains "the catcher in the rye" and how he is actually misremembering a song LOL! Poor Holden.
Just getting caught up on your vlogs when I realized that you were getting around to reading one of my favorite books, "The Catcher in the Rye."
There's this false dichotomy for the types of high school students who become adults, between those who discover Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" and Rand's "Atlas Shrugged". I think there's more and this includes the type of people who discovered Holden Caulfield when they were teenagers in high school, and who they became as adults. I was one of those students. I was the same age as Salinger's protagonist in "The Catcher in the Rye". I was also an avid reader of popular genre fiction but something changed upon reading "The Catcher in the Rye". The naturalistic tone of it. Holden's perception of his life and surroundings. The unintentionally humorous outlook mixed with the sudden bitterness and isolation. It felt like the first honest story that I had read. It made me want to expand my reading horizons. I wanted to find other voices, to see if they held other truths that I could not have known but also mirrored some of my own. "The Catcher in the Rye" made me want to read outside of the bestseller lists of what was popular and find things on my own.
You have to suspense in disbelief that’s the problem some people don’t wanna do that
So glad you've found a classic you really enjoyed bc classics offer more opportunities to interact with other readers on a level above "Oh, I liked this but not that," and "Me too, except for that, I didn't like that" etc. Ofc it's too bad about DC but that's life. Looking forward to the live show (next week), and also looking forward to Brothers Karamazov, which will be only my 2d Dostoevsky. As for Camus' L'etranger, I'll be (re)reading it in French and really hope you join me there.
My brain: Emmie=classic aesthetic
Classic aesthetic=Emmie❤
Currently reading Les Miserables and Moby Dick! Slow crawl these books are massive. Maybe Catcher in the Rye I’ll get to over the Summer! 🥰
oh wow both at the same time!! how are you liking Moby Dick?
@@emmiereads so far so good. Lots to analyze in this book. It’s basically a revenge story. I know American lit isn’t your fave 😅🫠, but hopefully you give this one a try it is a mighty undertaking. Maybe after university. 🥰✨
I agree 100% with everything you said about both books! I'm loving this book club, watching you two discuss classics has been so fun because I love reading classics! I'm so excited for The Brothers Karamazov 😄
I had never heard that people hated him so I was so surprised after reading it last year. I liked Holden and thought he was hilarious and relevant. I'm glad to hear that you like him too.
Ok so now i really want to read Catcher in the rye!! ❤ but something sad and interesting about Alianza’s Spanish translation is that they say it changes completely the meaning of the story so I’m gonna have to look for a different edition and translation. Anyway, thank you for these beautiful and peaceful videos, Emma! ❤
Had to read the Catcher in the Rye for final literature exam and it became one of the books that I forced myself to read through torture and suffering, but one thing that I did like about the story is the symbolism and metaphors throughout the book that deal with having to leave childhood behind and come to age though the process might be frightening to some people.
i read catcher in the rye this month for the first time and its easily one of my favorite classic lits now
Sorry you didn’t love David copperfield!! I’m almost done reading it, and it’s definitely no tale of two cities (my favorite dickens!!), but what really fascinates me about it is that he starts out asking if he is the main character of his life…and what is so beautiful is that he isn’t!! If you asked Uriah heep if he was the main character of his own life he it would be an ecstatic yes - he only cares about himself. But David spends pages and pages discussing all of the people around him and making them the central characters. he lets them shine brighter than himself and he lets them teach him and make him better. I found that so entrancing! Really Holden and David juxtapose each other so much in that Holden lives this lonely life, where David is surrounded by deep connections. I was definitely bored by David copperfield a bit at times, but the characters helped bring it to life. I actually enjoy both of these books!!
I feel like Uriah is completely in control, whereas at the other end of the spectrum is Mr. Micawber who has completely let go of control (until the end), and David is a middle ground.
@@spamel33 that’s a fascinating point! I’m definitely a mr micawber stan, but that is an intriguing comparison. I read something that discussed how Uriah was so meticulous in his idea that everyone just acts in their own self interest, and therefore thought micawber would just fall in line out of his own self interest. He didn’t realize that people like micawber and David actually were willing to make sacrifices for others.
Can’t wait till you read Brothers K. Nothing like it. Keep in mind that, although they are often mentioned together, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky have absolutely nothing in common - they are completely irreconcilable. Btw CITR is a direct descendent of Huck Finn :)
I'm so excited you're starting Brothers Karamazov! Im HERE for the Dostoevesky diaries 😅.
One of my best friends loves Catcher in the Rhye so much and is trying to get me to read it. Your sharing those passages has definitely increased my interest.
I just finished reading Hamnet, and the music from the first reading montage is healing my heart ❤️
I feel like the minority that preferred David Copperfield over Catcher in The Rye. I tried to love Catcher in The Rye but Holden kept rubbing me the wrong way. I understand he has been through a lot but he comes off very…insufferable.
I preferred Copperfield over Catcher in the Rye as well. Holden struck me as the biggest 'phoney' in the book. I agree - insufferable.
I can't stand Holden's way of speaking. I know it's true to awkward teenaged boys, but I didn't even like talking to awkward teenaged boys when I was an awkward teenaged girl
I prefer it too! I enjoyed so much reading David Copperfield
I actually really liked Catcher, but David Copperfield is a favourite
Of course I think no one has an obligation to like a book. But if someone hates the catcher in the rye it kinda suggests to me that person has no empathy.
This is irrelevant to the books that were mentioned in this video. However, I really wanna recommend a book. I searched your goodreads account and I didn't see Mikhail Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita, so I assume you haven't read it. I think it's considered a Russian/Soviet classic(?) - since you say you wanna dive back into classics. It's REALLY GOOD! I don't think this is official, but it's kinda considered magic realism. I don't think my description will do the book any justice at all (so I'm not gonna try lol). but please go check it out if you have time :)
funny how in the greek translation "phoney" was translated as "counterfeit" and somehow I think it felt better
ah I love that
I’m so glad that you’re enjoying Catcher in the rye! I love this book so much I’m thinking about doing my dissertation on it.
It's refreshing that you understood Holden that much on your first read I'm so tired of people calling this child who obviously has had traumatic experiences whiny. I agree with a lot of your interpretations and found your analysis interesting
Your new haircut looks amazing on you!!!
I don't really take the opinions of people who hate this book or Holden seriously because I don't think I would relate to them. Before I elaborate, it's funny that it seems the "type" of person who bashes this book is also the type of person who loved going to emo nite and listening to whiny mid 2000s bands. So, that seems pretty hypocritical to say the least. Anyways, I don't think people who actively hate this book have dealt with much loneliness or bitterness in their lives (which is a good thing, but it also strikes me as blissfully ignorant of how other people live and cope with hardships). It's a kid in therapy talking about the death of a sibling and routinely talking about his love for his other siblings, while criticizing society as a whole (because let's be honest societt has always deserved to be criticized). And people want to say Holden is this spoiled rich kid. Ummm, maybe the reason he hates the school he goes to is because he can't stand them. And he wears a tattered hunting cap all the time, so he's not exactly demanding. But all in all, it's about a kid who feels alone and lost, and the kid isn't perfect. But yeah, i think people who hate this book have always had a friend group, close family, or some sort of support system, so their lack of curmudgeon kinda is telling.
It might just be that I haven't read Dickens before but I honestly quite enjoyed a lot of David Copperfield. Not necessarily my kind of lit but I had a good time. I did also enjoy Catcher in the Rye a fair bit more than I did in high school though.
Currently, however, I'm reading Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier, and it's really excellent. A bit aimless structurally speaking, but still great.
I loved Franny & Zooey by Salinger - there are similar themes. Definitely recommend 😊
I went into The Catcher in the Rye not expecting much, and then suddenly I realised I am hooked. There is so much to unpack in that book, I really don't understand all the hate it gets
I cried my eyes out when you quoted Catcher in the Rye ❤
I read the catcher in the raye in college (here in Brazil) and it's my favorite book! I'm so happy you're intrigued by it too
The Catcher in the Rye is one of my favorite books! Glad you loved it! 😊
So glad that you liked The Catcher in the Rye. First time reading it, I read the translation into my native language, which was a bad one imo. I re-read the book this April and it became an all time favorite.
I am so happy that you liked the catcher in the rye. It is my favourite book and reading a lot of negative reviews was infuriating. I am glad you have positive things to say about it. If you haven't read it yet read Franny and zooey too.
I read The catcher in the rye years ago, but this video made me think that I might want to re-read it!
I’m so glad you loved Catcher. It’s one of my favourites and the hate this book cops just makes me sad.
So excited for this series!
I was reading the cathcher in the rye as an e-book. I never thought i would like it but i am really enjoying it. After seeing both you and carolyn liked it, i have Just ordered the hardback copy. I wanna keep the book. I must have it.🤩
Oh my! The Brothers Karamazov is also my May read!
Hi Emmie. Currently on page 70 Brothers Karamazov. This book got me buying post-it’s for annotations and a notebook because I gotta keep up with all these Russian names and the book is packed with scenes I feel like I should not forget. So far, I’m loving it! I’m all for Dostoyevsky diaries. Yes please ❤
The Catcher is a amazing book.Salinger "catcher" all generation's feelings through this story.
I very nervous to watch this one because Catcher is my favorite novel and it seems to be a trend to hate in it lately on UA-cam. But I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s stuck with me through all these years and I’m in my thirties now.
I've never read Catcher in the Rye. Always heard bad things about it. But you're inspiring me to pick it up. 😊
I just finished David Copperfield. The first half is a masterpiece, thoroughly. As we proceed the book turns episodic, and it seems evident to me that Dickens didn't want to leave it, he loved this work so much. As a result, for this reader, it goes on for too long. It is good, but the second half dwindles in interest. I would give it 4 stars.
There are several noteworthy quotes in DC. Here are two:
(1) "It has always been in my observation of human nature, that a man who has any good reason to believe in himself never flourishes himself before the faces of other people in order that they may believe in him." Chapter 48.
(2) " ‘These are early days, Trot,’ she [Aunt Betsey] pursued, ‘and Rome was not built in a day, nor in a year. You have chosen freely for yourself’; a cloud passed over her face for a moment, I thought; ‘and you have chosen a very pretty and a very affectionate creature. It will be your duty, and it will be your pleasure too-of course I know that; I am not delivering a lecture-to estimate her (as you chose her) by the qualities she has, and not by the qualities she may not have. The latter you must develop in her, if you can. And if you cannot, child,’ here my aunt rubbed her nose, ‘you must just accustom yourself to do without ‘em. But remember, my dear, your future is between you two. No one can assist you; you are to work it out for yourselves. This is marriage, Trot; and Heaven bless you both, in it, for a pair of babes in the wood as you are!’ Chapter 44.
I feel like this book sounds like the male version of the bell jar. Like not exact, it’s not really fair to compare them, but I feel like they come from a similar place and experience of feelings.
It was about a dozen years earlier though.
@@Tolstoy111 yes, that is true as well. But I’ve read one and not the other, and in general feel they could still be compared. If nothing else, I think that just emphasizes how relevant and relatable the themes and feelings continue to be throughout literature’s history, especially for a young adult!
Yes, I agree they are similar.
i think you should give other Salinger's books a try! he wrote multiple stories about those incredibly smart and self-aware 8? siblings. my favorite one is "franny and zooey". it starts with a girl having dinner with her boyfriend and her literally slowly collapsing into a mental breakdown. it's so witty, both hilarous and sad and it contains some of the best dialogue i've ever read.
Catcher has always been one of those books that I had no interest in but you might have changed my mind and convinced me to pick it now..
I believe that Holden (Salinger) was talking to Whit Burnett (his professor), the one who was begging Salinger to finish the book for years. Salinger did abandoned writing because of some traumas he got from WW2, he suffered a lot during the 50s writing the book and trying to find peace at the same time, after reading 3 biographies about him you can really connect every stage of his private life with Holden in some aspect.
And I believe that his short stories collection should gain the same amount of attention as TCITR
Ooh I love Catcher in the Rye, going to reread it stat 😊
Catcher in the Rye is my absolute fav ❤
I just got done reading catcher in the rye and immediately want to read it again. Gonna listen to the audiobook
I like "Catcher." Read it a number of times.
Uriah Heep is also a rock band from London that's been around since 1969. They of course took the name from the character in David Copperfield.
omg i am so happy you loved tcitr ! i feel so validated rn
Im rereading Kafka on the shore and Little life. Then i want to study Hamlet and Julius Caesar. And i want to complete Plato's Symposium. And complete Jane eyre. And start reading ULysses.
I have 2 response essays I have to finish in 2 days so that I can start another essay for another class💀so I'll listen to this in the background 😮💨
ah good luck, you've got this!
Sweet sweet Emmie, can you please make a video recommending audiobooks? Specially books that are in the Plus catalog on Audible? I struggle trying to find good titles there! (Besides the classics, of course)
I loved Holden talking about feeling sorry for girls who said "don't".
Much of the hate the book gets is people ignoring Holden's trauma and the fact that he's a child.
Yeah I've seen people berate him as a "man-child". Ummm.
Hi, Emma, just discovered your channel about a week ago and I just read Catcher yesterday! I am Holden Caulfield. I swear to God. This video was waiting for me in my recs on YT when I finished the goddam book, what a nice coincidence. Subscribed.
Like a lot of people, all phonies, all of 'em, I relate to Holden, having lost relatives in tragic ways and taking my pain out on the crappy world full of goddam phonies, I just want to puke on 'em, except I'm aware of my hypocrisy in my being quite the phoney myself and I know my self awareness keeps me out of the mental hospital, unlike Holden.
Anyways, I laughed internally throughout the goddam book, but laughed out loud long and hard when Holden says in CH 18: "I don't think I could stand it if I had to go to war. I really couldn't. It wouldn't be too bad if they'd just take you out and shoot you or something, but you have to stay in the army so goddam long.....I swear if there's ever another war, they better just take me out and stick me in front of a firing squad. I wouldn't object.....Anyway, I'm sort of glad they've got the atomic bomb invented. If there's ever another war, I'm going to sit right the hell on top of it. I'll volunteer for it, I swear to God I will."
That killed me. Laid a terrific fart. Nearly blew the roof off.
CH 23, Holden describes a former classmate, James Castle, who committed suicide by jumping out a window and an unusually compassionate teacher, Mr Antolini, who took care of James Castle's body afterward. CH 24, Holden goes to visit Mr Antolini IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT and I was convinced that he was going to jump out of his window to his death so that Mr Antolini would take great care of him like he had James Castle, and apparently Mr Antolini was, too. He possesses a supernaturally shrewd insight into Holden's emotional state and tells him "The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one." I about fell out of bed reading that. Why couldn't someone have told me that 35 goddam years ago? I'll tell you why: because I've never known a Mr Antolini. The crappy world is full of goddam phonies. That's why. Guess I'll crawl down off this crappy atomic bomb now.
Fun facts: TCITR, one of the most banned/censored books in history, still sells about 1 MILLION COPIES PER YEAR 70+ years after its publication. Following Salinger's crappy death, his bastard family confirmed rumors that he continued writing for decades and there are many, many goddam books that they are preparing for future publication, with his blessing.
I read catcher in the rye in HS. Now read it as a mother with a teenage son who also lost his little brother suddenly and traumatically, it hits different this time around. I can't wait until my son reads it in school, I wonder what his reaction will be.
Holden and Jonah (my son) have the same vibe too....very interesting.
Oooomgggg.. So excited for The Brothers Karamazov ❤❤❤ can't wait. Love you emma.
Nice to find out what the June book will be! I'll have to order that one.
The only Dickens I've read are Great Expectations, Christmas Carol, Hard Times and a Tale of Two Cities, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the last two